I loved these books when I was a kid, I read this skit back in the day, funniest thing I read. "Never get sick in England" Seeing it live action is even funnier.
actually, they did: e.g. the earliest accurate descriptions of how the eye (and how to treat them), heart (ibn al-nafis), lungs, etc work are derived from Islamic era writings, contrary to Galen's et al' beliefs on the matter. however, as you correctly point out, they didn't take what they found to the furthest level, as happened later in Europe. part of the reason was that practical based medicine began to be looked at negatively b/c of changes in post medieval (post 13th cent) Islamic society
@kkamagwi Ironically, most European medicine is adapted from Arabic practices. Even today, Arabic research forms the basis of most Mathematical, Astrological and Biological research. The Ottoman Empire in particular was a leader in medical studies until its decline in the 1920s. They also had a strong influence in Poetry and Music that was unmached anywhere else in the world at the time. And having visited an Egyptian Hospital in the 90s, I can tell you it looks exactly like any British one.
This is a good way of learning instead of reading books, I am not saying that reading books are not good but it will help children. This is extremely helpful when I am doing History Homework.
The Islamic Golden era discovered many medicine and cures before 1000ad and then moved to Spain. This was when Europe then became advanced in Medicine hundred years later
It wasn't just medicine the Arabians were more advanced in, they were way ahead in other things too. Same with ancient China, they had massive public libraries when the king of England would only own one or two books. A lot of other places made Europe look like they were still banging each other over the head with clubs. No wonder we got taken over by Rome, we were still living in huts made of mud and shit while they had stone villas, central heating, and plumbing.
If you mean the Gauls or other Celts that is just how they where portraited by the Romans. In many fields they where better advanced from both Romans and us Greeks. (Especially in metallurgy.) They even invented pants, soap and hair brushes in Europe (Already existed in China for example) where Romans where wearing bathroom tubs. The only reason the Romans took over most of their neighbors was their aggressive expansion that allowed them to take control of Italy which (after Carthage) led to them fighting numerically inferior foes since rather than fight the Romans as 1 civilization they fought as smaller tribes or city states.
@judopathoftruth The Greeks laid the foundations of modern learning, but that doesn't mean they were right on everything. In europe, the 'Wisdom of the Greeks' was held as being something sacred and that the Greeks knew everything, even when it was patently stupid. The Arabs on the other hand, made it a point of actually studying things and learning for themselves, often starting with what the Greeks knew as a jump off point and vastly improving on it
Not only did they do this, this is actually based around a true story. I have it in McKay- Hill- Buckler's "History of Western Society" (since retitled to the less Eurocentric, "History of World Society")
Medieval monks and Nuns also did the same thing with their medicine; they also relied on herbs, even before contact with the Muslim world. Also, during the development of Muslim science, Syrian orthodox monks helped Muslim scientists by translating all Greek texts of science into Arabic and helping develop the arabic alphabet.
Indeed the Crusaders only remedy was amputation, in which the patient usually died afterward. "Cauterization" did not even reach the English language until the 16th C. To be honest, until the 20th C, amputating limbs was the only thing doctors could do decently. The Arab treatment was herbal as shown here, but they would also drain out the infected blood. We still do blood lettings today, usually for Anemias.
actually, the changes I refer to were in part the result of Mongol invasions in that period (13th century), followed by the rise of the Ottoman Empire. details are sadly beyond the scope of the comment. I thought the crusades were a response to an appeal by the Byzantine emperor, not Pilgrim killing in itself, which occurred in the early 11th century (by Al-hakim bi-'amr-allah a fatimid, not Turk). Later rulers in the region did reverse this, though I imagine the damage was done. sad really
@TheSilver19991 The Crusaders came from around Europe. They were a combined European force from (modern day) England, France, Germany, Italy and other (mostly) Western European countries. The Crusaders were a European-Christian who coalition who fought the Arabs in the Middle East (mostly in Israel) over the control of Jerusalem. The Arabs wanted Jerusalem to be Muslim and the Europeans wanted Jerusalem to be Christian.
The catholic church branded the number zero as heretical due to its Muslim origins. While it was a fairly weak willed law to enforce in comparison to more dangerous activities (like owning a cat, which were seen as creatures of the devil). If you want my source, read Hitchen's "God is not great".
@Auge2011 yeah they had advanced medicine, some of their inventions are still used 'till today, I think something about cats guts and silk or something
To be honest, I do not think anyone has perfected anything. It's all still a work in progress. Anyway, the Romans got stuff from the Greeks, Persians, and Egyptians; the Ottomans from the Byzantines; and the Europeans from a variety of sources. All have made huge contributions to medicine, which has progressed vastly in the last century. As Bernard of Chartres said: we are "dwarfs standing on the shoulders of giants."
Br. William of Malmsbury did call the number zero "dangerous saracen magic." For further reading find "The Nothing that Is" by R.Kaplan or "Zero: A Dangerous Biography" by C. Seife.
I wonder why the Western Roman Empire had to go post apocalyptic to the point that they had to dig up urns to make cooking pots? Well, Byzantines still have advanced tech though.
I have a bad cut on my thumb from 2 days ago! I wish I had some healing herbs to make it better. Then the European doctor can chop it off afterwards! Thumbs up if you all agree with me!
Stable politics in the Eastern Roman Empire? Dude, what have you been smoking? They were constantly fighting each other, which is the main reason that their empire fell.
@Albukhshi And that's the problem. For four hundred years Christian Pilgrims and Muslim warlords were friends. Until the eleventh century came along, and the Turks kept slaughtering all the pilgrims, which pissed off the pope and started the Crusades.
Yep sorry about that. My ancestors were just recovering from a little thing called the Ice Age and didn't have the luxury of coming from a stable climate inorder to perfect agriculture, cities, writing and math. India? Mud huts? Extreme poverty? Nukes? Ancient "cultures" have a funny way of looking at the world. They always look to the past when they were great but they can't seem to explain why they are still living in dirt and squalor in the present.
@Albukhshi It wasn't just the Christians suffering. Muslim warlords made a gradual shift from enlightened tolerance to puritanical totalitarianism forcing all Muslims to follow rules or die; by the time of the 12th Century, Muslims had it so bad that despite the fact that the Crusaders in the capture of Jerusalem by murdered all the Muslims there, Muslims STILL wanted to live there after the Crusaders took over since the Crusaders who allowed Muslims back in ruled them in Lassie-fair style.
@Albukshi "The Muslims own their own houses and rule themselves in their own way. This is the way the farms and big villages are organized in Frankish territory. Many Muslims are sorely tempted to settle here when they see the far from comfortable conditions in which their brethren live in the districts under Muslim rule." ibn Jubayr, Muslim traveler and scholar.
By dropping the hardline views, they would likely be able to advance to a social and cultural point deemed more acceptable by the rest of the world, thus helping restore a lot of former wealth and trade opportunities. Note that I'm not trying to flame by saying this, I'm being honest and offering the solutions that you claim nobody has.
@RandomGuy3286 A long while ago, the Muslims were welcoming to the Hebrew people because they shared the same bloodlines and beliefs. They both were oppressed together under Roman Rule, and with that, under Christianity's rule. Times have changed, and after NATO put the Hebrew people in what is now Present Day Israel, Palestine was all but removed from the map, and hell broke loose.
Lol! Yeah, school cant be wrong :D but nonetheless, yes ure history teacher, very good that she is, needs to update her info on the Middle Ages - i dont blame her - she learnt about this myth becos it has been said all her life - but stuff bout the middleages has been updated - i didnt ask u to believe me, go look at the latest sources - use google to contact historians who r studying up middleages history and updating it as we speak...
sadly for all of horrible histories good jokes things like THIS are badly mistaken and are helping perpetuae myhes about he medieval priod and other periods (another being that the barbarians just charged willy nilly like an angry mob at roman armies. )
ah, I see your point now regarding the massacres. yeah, that would be correct. but IIRC it still wasn't the immediate/sole catalyst. that is true regarding Ibn Jubayr. though I must add-for clarification's sake, that Ibn Jubayr also praises Saladdin-the one exception to the rule at the time. you are right though: there was indeed a shift towards a more hard-lined attitude over that time-period. sad really and I said nothing about Monk's usage of herbs; my comments were just on the middle east.
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Arabs really did reach an amazing level of knowledge.. specially in spain.
yes
Did not know that
Yess it so good
Best was Bagdad but Al-Andalus was still very high. ^^
Yep, I'll give them that
"It is odd, these Crusader's way of medicine looks like our way torture."
Fun Fact: Doctors in Medieval Europe often doubled as butchers.
To be honest, I would be concerned (read: terrified) if I knew that the surgeon who's gonna operate on me is the town butcher...
I knew some where barbers but not that. Sheesh.
I loved these books when I was a kid, I read this skit back in the day, funniest thing I read. "Never get sick in England"
Seeing it live action is even funnier.
You know you’re in the Middle Ages when the doctor is more of a threat than the actual condition.
fun fact: "barber surgeons" as they where called learned on the go back then.
So basically the patient was more like a test subject.
Middle Ages Cure For EVERYTHING! :D
"Don't treat it, CUT IT OFF~! :D"
actually, they did: e.g. the earliest accurate descriptions of how the eye (and how to treat them), heart (ibn al-nafis), lungs, etc work are derived from Islamic era writings, contrary to Galen's et al' beliefs on the matter.
however, as you correctly point out, they didn't take what they found to the furthest level, as happened later in Europe. part of the reason was that practical based medicine began to be looked at negatively b/c of changes in post medieval (post 13th cent) Islamic society
@kkamagwi Ironically, most European medicine is adapted from Arabic practices. Even today, Arabic research forms the basis of most Mathematical, Astrological and Biological research.
The Ottoman Empire in particular was a leader in medical studies until its decline in the 1920s. They also had a strong influence in Poetry and Music that was unmached anywhere else in the world at the time.
And having visited an Egyptian Hospital in the 90s, I can tell you it looks exactly like any British one.
They heavily relied on the Roman and Persian inventions, people often left this out
@@gamingthisera6339 so what you can say every country borrowed from another country. The romans from the Greeks and Persians from the Iraqis
@@user-de7nw8kd4r exactly, unlike the person above me
It mostly started from the Abbasids.
Between the crusader doctor and Arabian doctor I choose the Arabian doctor.
This is a good way of learning instead of reading books, I am not saying that reading books are not good but it will help children. This is extremely helpful when I am doing History Homework.
The Islamic Golden era discovered many medicine and cures before 1000ad and then moved to Spain. This was when Europe then became advanced in Medicine hundred years later
Europe were were pretty amazing considering they have very little way to interact outside europe
Also early robotics in automaton
i like the arabian doctor he makes people feel a lot better
Medieval arabian doctors are amazing.
It wasn't just medicine the Arabians were more advanced in, they were way ahead in other things too. Same with ancient China, they had massive public libraries when the king of England would only own one or two books.
A lot of other places made Europe look like they were still banging each other over the head with clubs. No wonder we got taken over by Rome, we were still living in huts made of mud and shit while they had stone villas, central heating, and plumbing.
The one advantage the Scotts a d Anglo Saxons had over the Romans was the fact Romans are not used to colder more rocky climates .
If you mean the Gauls or other Celts that is just how they where portraited by the Romans. In many fields they where better advanced from both Romans and us Greeks. (Especially in metallurgy.) They even invented pants, soap and hair brushes in Europe (Already existed in China for example) where Romans where wearing bathroom tubs.
The only reason the Romans took over most of their neighbors was their aggressive expansion that allowed them to take control of Italy which (after Carthage) led to them fighting numerically inferior foes since rather than fight the Romans as 1 civilization they fought as smaller tribes or city states.
*grimace* I make these noises when I'm happy!
Hahhaah
Me in order to avoid a medieval doctor.
I laughed my head off, matt's accent is soooooo sexy
They had to cut the leg because there were chances of blood contamination and huge infections lool. Very true!
@judopathoftruth The Greeks laid the foundations of modern learning, but that doesn't mean they were right on everything. In europe, the 'Wisdom of the Greeks' was held as being something sacred and that the Greeks knew everything, even when it was patently stupid. The Arabs on the other hand, made it a point of actually studying things and learning for themselves, often starting with what the Greeks knew as a jump off point and vastly improving on it
Not only did they do this, this is actually based around a true story. I have it in McKay- Hill- Buckler's "History of Western Society" (since retitled to the less Eurocentric, "History of World Society")
very accurate!
Medieval monks and Nuns also did the same thing with their medicine; they also relied on herbs, even before contact with the Muslim world.
Also, during the development of Muslim science, Syrian orthodox monks helped Muslim scientists by translating all Greek texts of science into Arabic and helping develop the arabic alphabet.
Well yes Syrian Christians are still part of the Arab World. Arab Golden Age doesn’t just include the Islamic Golden Age
when he said wash the bain out with salt my mum cryed NOO
Indeed the Crusaders only remedy was amputation, in which the patient usually died afterward. "Cauterization" did not even reach the English language until the 16th C. To be honest, until the 20th C, amputating limbs was the only thing doctors could do decently. The Arab treatment was herbal as shown here, but they would also drain out the infected blood. We still do blood lettings today, usually for Anemias.
1:20 - his “Help!” makes me laugh so hard!
actually, the changes I refer to were in part the result of Mongol invasions in that period (13th century), followed by the rise of the Ottoman Empire. details are sadly beyond the scope of the comment.
I thought the crusades were a response to an appeal by the Byzantine emperor, not Pilgrim killing in itself, which occurred in the early 11th century (by Al-hakim bi-'amr-allah a fatimid, not Turk). Later rulers in the region did reverse this, though I imagine the damage was done. sad really
amputation only was used to stop deep hemoraging, gangreen, and mutilated limbs. not a skin rash.
It’s strange that this historical doctor is the only one that actually help the patient compared to the others
"Where is ze next patient?"
Holy shit, that was Alexei Sayle! :D
Ummayd caliphate
god this made me laugh alot!
I find it funny the one time the patient starts to get suspicious the history doctor turns out to be actually helpful and stops the crazy doctor 😂😂😂
@TheSilver19991 The Crusaders came from around Europe. They were a combined European force from (modern day) England, France, Germany, Italy and other (mostly) Western European countries.
The Crusaders were a European-Christian who coalition who fought the Arabs in the Middle East (mostly in Israel) over the control of Jerusalem.
The Arabs wanted Jerusalem to be Muslim and the Europeans wanted Jerusalem to be Christian.
@ViccardXViccc not only did thay translate thay added on with alot of success :)
The catholic church branded the number zero as heretical due to its Muslim origins. While it was a fairly weak willed law to enforce in comparison to more dangerous activities (like owning a cat, which were seen as creatures of the devil).
If you want my source, read Hitchen's "God is not great".
@Auge2011 yeah they had advanced medicine, some of their inventions are still used 'till today, I think something about cats guts and silk or something
To be honest, I do not think anyone has perfected anything. It's all still a work in progress. Anyway, the Romans got stuff from the Greeks, Persians, and Egyptians; the Ottomans from the Byzantines; and the Europeans from a variety of sources. All have made huge contributions to medicine, which has progressed vastly in the last century. As Bernard of Chartres said: we are "dwarfs standing on the shoulders of giants."
Oh gosh...for a minute I thought a patient was going to be cures and then...good lord...
we watched this in our history lesson today XD
i want the arabian one
Br. William of Malmsbury did call the number zero "dangerous saracen magic." For further reading find "The Nothing that Is" by R.Kaplan or "Zero: A Dangerous Biography" by C. Seife.
I wonder why the Western Roman Empire had to go post apocalyptic to the point that they had to dig up urns to make cooking pots? Well, Byzantines still have advanced tech though.
I have a bad cut on my thumb from 2 days ago! I wish I had some healing herbs to make it better. Then the European doctor can chop it off afterwards! Thumbs up if you all agree with me!
Thumbs up?! Serious question?!
two weeks until school starts and what the hell am i doing? watching horrible histories and actully learning o.O
Love love
i scare to go to the hospital now
Hello Stewie! :D
Doesn't matter who invented it or started it. It's all about who perfected it.
Lawry Lewin :D
HAHA, so true, sooooo true
Loved
Stable politics in the Eastern Roman Empire? Dude, what have you been smoking? They were constantly fighting each other, which is the main reason that their empire fell.
and just i begin to historical hospital
Better grab him quick, nurse!
Go Bro Cadfael!
Cadfael?
I can't believe Matt would do this
Alexei Sayle!
i read that part in a book of horrible histories. a european docter had sawed through a brain too
@Albukhshi War usually leads to a hardening of attitudes...
@kkamagwi Egypt
@IINAYDGOII good luck.... let me know how it goes
they missed the bit where the woman has a headake
@Albukhshi And that's the problem. For four hundred years Christian Pilgrims and Muslim warlords were friends. Until the eleventh century came along, and the Turks kept slaughtering all the pilgrims, which pissed off the pope and started the Crusades.
@l0rf yes I agree with what you said
AWW? Where's the second bit?!!
alexei sayle!
Yep sorry about that. My ancestors were just recovering from a little thing called the Ice Age and didn't have the luxury of coming from a stable climate inorder to perfect agriculture, cities, writing and math. India? Mud huts? Extreme poverty? Nukes? Ancient "cultures" have a funny way of looking at the world. They always look to the past when they were great but they can't seem to explain why they are still living in dirt and squalor in the present.
@Albukhshi It wasn't just the Christians suffering. Muslim warlords made a gradual shift from enlightened tolerance to puritanical totalitarianism forcing all Muslims to follow rules or die; by the time of the 12th Century, Muslims had it so bad that despite the fact that the Crusaders in the capture of Jerusalem by murdered all the Muslims there, Muslims STILL wanted to live there after the Crusaders took over since the Crusaders who allowed Muslims back in ruled them in Lassie-fair style.
The Egyptian hospital in the 90s looks like that becos of the English and the French, not becos of the Egpytians
True
where is the other half?
Any chance of finding the name of the title music please?
@Albukshi "The Muslims own their own houses and rule themselves in their own way. This is the way the farms and big villages are organized in Frankish territory. Many Muslims are sorely tempted to settle here when they see the far from comfortable conditions in which their brethren live in the districts under Muslim rule." ibn Jubayr, Muslim traveler and scholar.
Meet the Medic
@PalleRasmussen
yeah, with the whole mongol invasion and crusades. that is true.
I read about this in Measly Middle Ages. Can Middle Ages English doctors say 'Fail'?
👋
we watched this is social studies
@Musikkingofthecookie Really, or was that a joke? BTW It was a retorical question.
What episode is this?
By dropping the hardline views, they would likely be able to advance to a social and cultural point deemed more acceptable by the rest of the world, thus helping restore a lot of former wealth and trade opportunities.
Note that I'm not trying to flame by saying this, I'm being honest and offering the solutions that you claim nobody has.
ben is always the paitent
This isn't the full clip, who plays the Arabian doctor?
GO MATTHEW!
Where's the next patient? O.O
Oh god.
u missed the end off
@RandomGuy3286 A long while ago, the Muslims were welcoming to the Hebrew people because they shared the same bloodlines and beliefs. They both were oppressed together under Roman Rule, and with that, under Christianity's rule. Times have changed, and after NATO put the Hebrew people in what is now Present Day Israel, Palestine was all but removed from the map, and hell broke loose.
Lol! Yeah, school cant be wrong :D but nonetheless, yes ure history teacher, very good that she is, needs to update her info on the Middle Ages - i dont blame her - she learnt about this myth becos it has been said all her life - but stuff bout the middleages has been updated - i didnt ask u to believe me, go look at the latest sources - use google to contact historians who r studying up middleages history and updating it as we speak...
So ironic!
sadly for all of horrible histories good jokes things like THIS are badly mistaken and are helping perpetuae myhes about he medieval priod and other periods (another being that the barbarians just charged willy nilly like an angry mob at roman armies. )
i like to fly
@rexana well lets face Europe would have been just as advanced but as soon as Rome collapsed Europe went into the age on non advancement :/
@Musikkingofthecookie lol
ah, I see your point now regarding the massacres. yeah, that would be correct. but IIRC it still wasn't the immediate/sole catalyst.
that is true regarding Ibn Jubayr. though I must add-for clarification's sake, that Ibn Jubayr also praises Saladdin-the one exception to the rule at the time. you are right though: there was indeed a shift towards a more hard-lined attitude over that time-period. sad really
and I said nothing about Monk's usage of herbs; my comments were just on the middle east.
Which series is this
Horrible History
I watched this vid and a girl fated the whole class was shocked it was werd
1:08 sorry
*leg*
Where the hell did you read that the Catholic Church attemtpted to brand the number zero as satanic and heretical?