Run strong aged 50+ with 'Fast After 50' author & coach Joe Friel (tonnes of training advice!)
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- Run strong aged 50+ with 'Fast After 50' author & coach Joe Friel. LIVE CHAT! 6:30pm every Wed on Wild Ginger Running TH-cam channel.
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Fantastic tips from Joe on getting the best performance from your body after you hit the big 5-0, and if you're not there yet, what can you be doing NOW to ensure that your performance doesn't suffer when you get older. Thanks so much to Joe for doing this chat! Book him for coaching through his website here joefrielsblog.com/
Joe's book Fast After 50 is a fantastic resource, buy it here
UK amzn.to/3griODu
USA amzn.to/34w2KOH
Other books Joe mentions:
Roar by Stacy Sims PhD - for female athletes in general and also covers topics specific to older females like peri-menopause and menopause
UK amzn.to/2QsSwpS
USA amzn.to/2D03IHq
Run with Power by Jim Vance - the complete guide to power meters for running
UK amzn.to/32u0FzT
USA amzn.to/2EtwwJ9
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Just wanted to add something for the older runner. I have been running for 5 or 6 years now and a couple of years ago my performance a plateau. I couldn't account for it and put it down to age. About 5 months ago I was diagnosed with anaemia and started taking iron tablets. Since then I have got new pb's for all distances up to and including marathon. Also my VO2 max jumped to 50 my best ever. For reference I'm 63. It may not be all about your age!
This serves to show the rest of us that annual checkups with your Doc become more necessary as we reach different stages of life. Great job doing what we all should be doing!
Great point!
To keep motivated, don't worry about PB. Next time you run a race look for the age categories of the other runners (eg over 40 over 50 veterans etc) and compare yourself with them. You may be surprised what you find.
Great interview! Thanks so much!
Loved this interview Cheers Claire!
Best yet👍
Excellent interview, really enjoyed it, keep up the good work Claire & Joe, 👍😀
What a fantastic guest to have @wildgingerrunning. A real treat for us. Joe's books are great. But to have the key things explained so well to amateur runners by a legend in a YT video is super accessible. Thank-you both 😊
Brilliant show thank you for this!
Great book and great interview. Joe's book came out just as I turned 50 and I've used it as a bit of a Bible since! I just wish there was more age group racing in the UK in trail and ultra running.
Excellent interview Claire, very helpful.
So good I watched this or more importantly listened to this twice thanks Claire and Joe brilliant a lot for me to work on.
What an amazing video with the guest the 76 years old coach Joe Friel , he was really inspiring . It is never too old for starting running although going too fast or chasing PB at any cost when you are a mature runner could mean months out of action . The evening was rather enjoyable Claire .
Great video - Very helpful - Novice Runner & XC Skier (50yrs)
Great choice of topic, cheers Claire. Didn't see live, otherwise I would've put my hand up as being 50 and menopausal! I've read the Roar book and can second the recommendation. It doesn't have to see the end of PBs: I've broken several of my running and cycling ones this year after spending lockdown glued to Zwift ha ha.
This is such useful stuff!
Live the cake analogy. So helpful!
Definitely one of your best speakers! The time just flew by with some excellent points and thoughts for us ‘older’ runners (I’m 61) thank you Claire for inviting Joe on 👍
Wild Ginger Running and I’ve just ordered both Joe’s book and the Roar book for my wife 👍.... looking forward to reading
Oh! I love the book Fast After 50!!!!!
Kudos to this young lady for having this guy on and also to her highly disciplined interview skill of LISTENING , vs commenting and interrupting as he tended to ramble on. He is pretty damn good. Advice to younger runner who are preparing for the next decade: maintain as strong a core as you can, get involved in some kind of regular strength and stretching program and learn to meditate be it TM or prayer or whatever calms your mind. One last point is that as you age, it’s best if you compare yourself to your age group. In other words, look farther down the list when you finish those age group races and stop worrying about competing with the younger athletes, that makes you look bitter and desperate. Enjoy the fact that you can still race! Enjoy the fact that you were allowed another day on the planet for that matter. Peace out ✌🏽
Exactly, thanks dude that's kind of you. Mo Farah should listen to this shouldn't he!
@@wildgingerruns I seriously doubt that even with my vast experience working with Olympians and professional athletes that I have anything to say that Mo might find interesting or useful. 😂
Thank you for doing the interview, bought the book on Kindle and Audible, cant wait to peruse these. I am inspired!
Wonderful! Hope it helps you! Claire
Loved this. Just started to jog at 68. Thankyou for the reminder to be patient. 😂
Gosh how exciting, you have many years of fantastic running ahead of you!
Joe is absolute legend
I know, isn't he just!
Watched while on the treadmill the other day, and came back to my laptop and ordered the book. It came in today, and I'm excited to delve into it!
Cool! I hope it helps you Marie!
Very informative interview. Really enjoyed that, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
TY - finally re: menopause- serious issue for ladies trying to do triathlons really struggling through it - will read - ROAR..🎉!!
Absolutely, that is a must-read, hope it helps you!
just watched this very informative great content
Glad you liked it! Also available as a podcast :)
I actually got this book 3 years ago, when I turned 50. It’s a superb read.!
Awesome, glad you like it DP, Joe is a font of knowledge it was so nice of him to do this :)
As a 30 yr old, still good advice. I have a couple of years to prepare for the slow.
Great interview, Joe obviously knows his stuff and looks great on it. Interesting point for me re getting a coach vs doing your own research etc.
A good coach is a fantastic investment in yourself for sure, glad you liked this
Great episode! You ask good questions and get great info from your guests.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellant
Glad you liked it
Just started triathlon training (I am a 65 year old woman) as part of a team of women recovering frrom breast cancer. Most of the team are younger than me but some are in their forties and fifties and still having regular chemo to keep their cancer at bay. I was lucky, just needed the op and a week of radiotherapy. It is amazing to see how quickly our fitness (and happiness) have improved with regular training as a team. I had a partial right knee replacement in my 50s and steroid injection in right hip following sacroiliac joint problem 2 years ago. I listen to my body and only push myself a little further each time as I don't want to damage anything and have to pull out.
Wow you are totally amazing!!!!
🤦🏾♂️ this must be a sign...I just turned 50 today (27th)...looking forward to the read as a continuing Washington State ultra runner. Thx for putting out GREAT content‼️
@@wildgingerruns thx‼️ and I always enjoy your welcoming smile!
P.S. did he have to make the "50" in such big font⁉️
Great show
Thanks Abu!
Great interview. Also a great perception of life by sir Lockhart. Every activity or routine useful and without stress is counter-intuitive exactly because is easy to accomplish. And if we find the right way (most of the time with the help of others) it is extremely difficult to make it a life time routine. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE RATIONAL.
Well said Anton!
I have read “Roar” as a father of two daughters who run distance to get a better understanding of how hormones greater affect training etc. I think anyone interested in training and educating yourself should read the book. I found it to be a great read and I learned a lot about female/athletes.
Great! What an awesome dad you are!
I started running in my mid 60s, took off for six years, now I’m back at 75 training. My time is competitive with other 5K runners in San Antonio. I run three days a week. I don’t know this terminology. But I know my pace from experience. I’ll start running five days a week. Good video. Mainly I just want to run for health and fun too.
Fantastic Peter, sounds like you're doing great!
Great, big fan of JF, always makes good sense.
He is a total dude!
I have been walking backwards (and sideways) which REALLY helps my tendons, along with reverse muscles. Also, barefoot running for 15mins which helps working memory.
Brilliant Kevin this it great! Awesome suggestion thanks for sharing :)
@@wildgingerruns yes backwards walking works contrary muscles its GREAt for leg knee ankle tendons.....magic. there is research that barefoot running, I prefer grass, 15 mins boosts working memory and I thi k I feel that. Cheers
Yes ride and run to keep fit and enjoy good health …but embrace the general theme of aging which is to transition from earthly wishes to those of Heavenly deeds and mindset. It’s on the way yes in time.
Very deep, thank you D!
I find the Concept2 rower an interesting way of going all out max internals, I wouldnt trust myself to run or cycle flat out. I use cycling for 2hr plus workout , jogging I would be happy with 30min and started doing park sprints x9 65mtr sprints.
Glad you liked it!
Over 50 here and mind suitably blown by this stunning interview!!! Thank you both - on my way (virtually) to buy the book. One question - I understand and am practising the 80/20 and avoiding zone 3 - problem is I race at zone 3 for eg olympic distance triathlons - should I trust that the 80/20 should get me to optimal and still avoid it, or add in a z3 very rarely as a 'race practice'? Also, re the ageing PB's - we could look at age-adjusted ratings - these are available in running and cycling at least. This factors in the gradual reduction in ability.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
You might find that even going to 90/10 will make those faster more intense workouts more effective.
I think he should educate himself on female physiology and menapause. Because he's still working as a coach, writing books and making interviews. Lots of science when it comes to men, a book referral when it comes to women. :)
Ooh good shout, you will like THIS interview, she is writing a book about this very thing soon! th-cam.com/users/live7gLjjYurS_E
I found the book helpful even though I am rubbish at taking in and applying technical programs where you have to know your FTP / lactic threshold etc. I start yawning at that point, but I did take away many positives (I find the 80/20 the easiet to follow). I am now 60 and have kept fit all my life but stopped serious running in my early 40s (I was a 42min 10k er) due to family commitments , but now trying to incorporate strength training, rest days (perhaps on bike or just weights) etc. My VO2 max is 44, sometimes goes up to 46, not sure why. I run 4 miles at 8 min pace, and 12 miles at 9min. Bottom line, keep plugging away.
Defo, keep on plugging!
Hello,
I just turned 60, 3months ago. I was never into running and only jogged a few times. When looking at my weight and feeling the fatigue of even small efforts I Kew it was hight time to change.
I started, without any method, to do some jogging.(99% on treadmill as its too cold for me here to go out) Just run as far as I could and then walk. After about 1month I had to stop for about 10days as I had bad groin pain. But In 3month time I got to a 10K. That was about 3weeks ago. I only did 2 more 5K run and then had to stop again because of soreness.
Since I read and watched a lot of info about training and running. Due to the info I also decided to change into minimalistic barefoot shoes. Thereby I also take the opportunity to restart my running with barefoot shoes.
(Didn't started yet)
Now I got confused or hesitant about what method to follow.
Being I will have to start as a 60y young overweight person, running with minimalistic footwear, what would be best ?
I really like the Chi-running approach with more natural movement, less fatigue, less stress, etc. But there the focus, evidence the form, is cadence. Then there is the heatrate zones and Zone 2 training, and you have the MAF training, and then training based on power.
What would be best in my situation ??
My goal is certainly not to become a fast marathon runner.
But I would like to become a relative , for me personally, good trail runner and if possible do a ultrarun.
I prefere trail running but due to the fact that I live in a mostly wet and cold area and dislike cold weather really really much, I'm forced to run a lot indoors on a treadmill. (I bought one only 3months ago)
Hello Neo! Thank you for the message and congratulations for getting into running! I would not at all recommend minimalist running shoes to an older, overweight person at all. I would recommend the comfiest regular cushioned road shoes you can find, and starting out doing 2-3 very slow runs or run/walks per week at a pace where your breathing is such that you could chat easily (zone 1-2). Don't worry about your technique at all at this point, just focus on running how you feel is best for you and nice and slowly. Once you have done that without injury for 3 months, come back to me for the next stage in your training! I'm sure you can run an ultra once you have the basic training in place, but you must be prepared to be running for at least one year possibly two before this will be a good thing for your body. That is my advice to you, Best wishes, Claire
I got , in 3 months time, that I can (slow run) my 5K and even once did a total one stretch go of 10K. That was one of my goals before switching to barefoot shoes. Now, 2d ago, I started to jog in my barefoot shoes and did a 5K. Yes my foot, the ball of my foot not the heel, started to hurt but I think that would be normal in this beginning stage.
I hah more issues before when putting so called good shoes and even orthopedic insoles. With the personalized insoles I really did damage and had daily pains in my heel and toes ! So those , expensive as they were, I threw them away.
By the way, in terms of metrics that are going to change the future of training, I'm actually looking forward for shirts that give you good feedback on your respiratory volume and rate because your breathing is actually a very immediate telling sign of your running intensity. I try to focus on that mostly, and although I do have an HR monitor, it sometimes gives me totally wonky readings, whereas my breathing is more reliable.
Wow that sounds exciting!
pulse hr is not reliable use a strap the polar H10 is super.
@@jfneve that's what I have, but it didn't work too well because the strap needed changing.
Fantastic interview..!! God bless you Joe for sharing your knowledge with the World of Runners..!!
He is amazing for sure!
Stacey Sims' second book Next Level is all about menapause. She says not every women should use hormone replacement therapy. I disagree. I lost my will to exercise temporary. Also I was getting overheated on the runs. Estradiol gel is a magic cure.
So fab you have found your cure!!! Go you!
Is there going to be a new edition of The Triathlon Training Bible coming out?
Not sure, maybe message Joe on his social media :)
I like how you pronounce the word "people". It's cute as hell with that little puff of air :D
No idea what you mean, but thank you :)
@@wildgingerruns hahah it's not that easy to explain. Your P sounds a bit like you're say pfeople instead :D
Revised comment that came off as angrier than I meant it. Lol!
Ah, ok!
Power meter is Stryd not Skype?
Lol yes I think I did mention this later on to him! Claire
I am 43 but tell everyone that i am 34
I'm 61 but tell everyone I'm 59 😆