Thank you for this information. We have a few persecutors in our system And one of which tends to be the most upfront about their actions they tend to not have remorse over why they do what they do At least without system-(amber from system vibrant)
@@Simona-wd3xu he got pissed off, started giving us nightmares by slipping into dreams and changing them from dreams to trauma scenes and when he came back he was not only a prosecutor but a pissed off prosecutor. he did everything in his power to torment us and the people we cared about. that was before we learned his age has allot to do with how he feels about what hes done. as a teen and adult he thinks its hilarious. as a kid hes overwhelmed with guilt so our (i honestly dont know what to call tom he is kinda. scary powerful in comparison to all of us but peaceful? hes a gatekeeper and a guide for us, and he made our headspace what it is today) aged him down to about 9 where hed not be overwhelmed by malice or guilt but could learn to deal with both
i dont have did, but i would imagine persecutors are prolly just like any other 'problem child'. usually theyre seen as terrible people, but in reality theyre usually just trying their best to deal with their own personal issues, and dont have the healthiest coping mechanisms. once you give them the tools they need to cope in a more productive way, the 'problem behaviors' usually dwindle, or stop altogether
We have a persecuter/protector. We just call him a protector though. He is angry a lot of the time and he scared everyone who knew us and he scared us. We tried to keep him back until someone asked him why. They asked him why he was angry, why he hurt us, why he wanted to die, why he hated certain people and fought all the time. We learned a lot more about him and see him as a protector to us. He wants to make sure no one hurts us again. He can be pretty rough, but it's his way of showing love. Tough love. He still has a lot to work on but we love him and try to show encouragement and support to him whenever we can.
That’s now we got one of persecutors to chill out a bit. He had stolen front and was trying to “get rid of them all” but our friend helped him realize that by trying to be the only one that could front, he was hurting everyone he was trying to help. Now he is working on becoming less aggressive towards others and “reentering our society” (as one of the gatekeepers called it). - Daybringer
This video is so articulate, and the information and tips even also apply to people who don't have DID or PTSD, but maybe suffer from dealing with abuse, trauma, depression, anxiety, or self-injury behavior. Thanks 💖
Most of our persecutors have horrible mental disorders and self harm on the body. They are just very damaged babies needing love and protection to show them better ways of coping with these things. Sinner is our main persecutor but he’s also a protector. He tries to front most of the time and protect everyone from external threats but he’s the one who self harms the most when fronting. He’s been doing good lately though and hasn’t relapsed in a while.
D- They did this with me. But I got out, and now they're actually getting to know me. So that's been better. But yea this whole "evil alter" thing really painted me awful to everyone. And...I ended up really hurting the host a lot. But I'm recovering now. I'm fixing it.
we made the mistake of avoiding our persecutor and seeing him as a bad person, and it just made him worse. we thought he was just bad with no reason because of what he'd do, but in reality he was just upset with himself. he was a introject of our abuser and he hated himself for that, so he'd take it out on everyone else and the body. he's much better now, and we're happy we got everything figured out.
My persecutor is also a protector. When I was getting abused, I wished so hard to be someone who would fight back when I got cornered. She protects the body, but she hurts (mostly verbal) others who pose a threat. She became self injurious during the body's teen years. She's better now about that, but she's still got a temper.
What about making a video about alters who don't identify with the body, but who have been long-term hosts since childhood, and how that experience might compare/contrast with the experience of long-term hosts who identify with the body? Especially when the non-identifying alter has had intense dissociative barriers between them and everyone else for... Ever. Idk I think it would create a really interesting discussion in the comments on varied experience.
Ex-persecutor here. All I ever wanted to do was to help. I thought that making us present more neurotypically would help, but it. It really didn't. Obviously. I probably *caused* more trauma than we had to make us form haha. But Moon was so kind. She always forgave me, always was there for me when I broke down, always listened, always loved me even though I didn't deserve it. She's why I healed. She's why I changed. So yeah. If you have persecutors, please. Be patient and gentle with us. We're trying, we just... don't know how. -Dark
We have a persecutor who's "thing" that he does is hurting a certain other alter in the system and with the help of our partner system, we're getting it worked out, but some of the ideas suggested really helped, like the fake blood recipie, so I just wanted to say thank you.💖 -Hanna(host)
Hey I’ve got a question for your q&a, how would you describe derealisation and depersonalisation to someone who’s never experienced it before? Also Thanks for being amazing btw I love your channel it’s really helpful.🖤
thank you for the video! we're actually dealing with one of our persecutors who's been reaaally really toxic lately. we're trying to reach out to him and give him healthy ways to express himself, and he kinda applies them but still, he needs help. i'm trying to learn as much as possible ways to do so and your video helps me a lot!
Great video! I'd love to see a video on innocence holders and other more obscure roles in the future because I understand the common ones, but the less common ones often escape me
Judas (persecutor, maybe something else too now?) has been doing really well. He was forced to sort of take on a bigger more host-like role since the previous host has kind of disappeared and the rest of us have been scrambling trying to figure out what to do. He's been an extremely big help. We've been going through a lot lately and he's really stepped up in an unexpected way. -Jonas (social alter, since I was talking about roles)
The gang has a pretty strong persecutor who has recently found a voice in co-con singing with one of their younger members funny enough. some pretty full on music but he has a really great strong voice. So glad he isn't locked up anymore. :)
Thank you for this. This explains my persecutors telling me it's hard for me to fully switch with them when I do it every day according to my new therapist. They played mind games to let me think I was in more control when I'm not. Guess I busted them.
Um we locked someone up but it was not our persecutor. Jamielynn is our persecutor, we locked up an introject. A copy of an abuser in a panic. I am not sure there is a good way to handle them.
Q&A I don't really understand the system roles (social alter, etc) are there an infinite amount? How do you decide what each alter is? Sorry if that is to vague or to many questions. Love your channel!
Thank you guys so much for making these videos! I do not have DID, but I do have trauma and dissociate. These videos help me understand how other people's brains work, along with my own. You might be surprised with how much of what happens to the brain to create DID goes along with most people! This information has helped me realize when both myself, and the people around me go into different mindsets, and has helped me diffuse different situations with a way of explaining that makes sense. So thank you all again!! 💜
I have about 11 persecutors/introjects and majority were programmed by abusers to be so so this video was really helpful. For a lot of them the main motivator seems to be fear beneath it all though. Like. massive fear.
For years: from my childhood to the teenage years, I was fighting with my own persecutor and he held many traumas and made me remember forcefully like "Oh yeah? You are gonna lose weight? You've tried this for so many times and you will not be able to do it again." but I discovered my DID on university years and then made a couple research on that. So many people were suggesting that I needed to communicate my alters and I did that and now this 'Evil Altar' of mine stopped make me remember bad things, actually he becomes a fiery protector like I sometimes hide my main character behind him and say "I'm powerless" and he instantly says "Okay leave this situation to me, no one can get through from my anger to hurt you. You are safe with me." like he gained some kind of confident and he even can defend other 8 alters of me. Although his energy of anger keeps increasing so I decided to use that energy with the cardio and boxing stuff. I wouldn't believe that the alter who bullies me with my own weight becomes the alter that encourage me to lose weight. So, that was the story of my evil alter becomes a powerful guardian. : ' )
Hey I haven’t been following this channel for very long but I absolutely love this channel i find you all so amazing and the channel is veryyy educational Thank u guys so much for making these videos xxxxxxx
Hell yesss!!! I'm a recent integration and one of the partsss that made me wasss a persssecutor who had recovered and then relapsssed, it'sss good to sssee people trying to reduce the ssstigma and hatred towardsss them -Loki (Hossst)
Ohh guys I really like your videos 😍 I'd like to hear more from you about fragments... How are they compared to more complex alters? :3 how often do they front? Well I guess it also differs from system to system :3 but I really like how clearly you guys explain things.
For your q&a, do you have any advice for people who are a part of a system while in education? I have my finale exams in two weeks and I sometimes struggle to get work done when my alters want time around
Just curious, but when an event happens in your inner world or to a specific alter does this usually have a psychological explanation? I guess what I mean is, for example, would the war symbolize some sort of inner turmoil, or do other major events tie in to what may be going on subconciously? I guess that question might lead to other questions... and over all my questions might be dumb, but I'm just very curious.
thank you for your videos 😄. people think I am evil. I have DID, but my alters will not communicate with me yet. but I have destroyed three marriages and all relationships. any suggestions on getting them to work with me?
You have to reflect on why you made certain choices and why certain parts of you wanted to do that. Try meditation maybe. It clears the mind and help you connect to yourself.
We all enjoy all your videos.. you help us alters understand shit.. thank you very much. If it is okay, I shall make the Amenio thing and join in.. -Grunge, Isolative/Protective Prosecutor, age 25
"There are parts of you that want the sadness. Find them out. Ask them why."
Exactly, friend! Asking why is such an important thing in psychology stuff, and it’s so rarely seen
-Tripper
Thank you for this information.
We have a few persecutors in our system
And one of which tends to be the most upfront about their actions they tend to not have remorse over why they do what they do
At least without system-(amber from system vibrant)
Our*
MADE THE MISTAKE OF LOCKING UP MY PERSECUTOR. NEVER AGAINNNNNN.
what happened??
@@Simona-wd3xu he got pissed off, started giving us nightmares by slipping into dreams and changing them from dreams to trauma scenes and when he came back he was not only a prosecutor but a pissed off prosecutor. he did everything in his power to torment us and the people we cared about. that was before we learned his age has allot to do with how he feels about what hes done. as a teen and adult he thinks its hilarious. as a kid hes overwhelmed with guilt so our (i honestly dont know what to call tom he is kinda. scary powerful in comparison to all of us but peaceful? hes a gatekeeper and a guide for us, and he made our headspace what it is today) aged him down to about 9 where hed not be overwhelmed by malice or guilt but could learn to deal with both
i dont have did, but i would imagine persecutors are prolly just like any other 'problem child'. usually theyre seen as terrible people, but in reality theyre usually just trying their best to deal with their own personal issues, and dont have the healthiest coping mechanisms. once you give them the tools they need to cope in a more productive way, the 'problem behaviors' usually dwindle, or stop altogether
We have a persecuter/protector. We just call him a protector though. He is angry a lot of the time and he scared everyone who knew us and he scared us. We tried to keep him back until someone asked him why. They asked him why he was angry, why he hurt us, why he wanted to die, why he hated certain people and fought all the time. We learned a lot more about him and see him as a protector to us. He wants to make sure no one hurts us again. He can be pretty rough, but it's his way of showing love. Tough love. He still has a lot to work on but we love him and try to show encouragement and support to him whenever we can.
That’s now we got one of persecutors to chill out a bit. He had stolen front and was trying to “get rid of them all” but our friend helped him realize that by trying to be the only one that could front, he was hurting everyone he was trying to help. Now he is working on becoming less aggressive towards others and “reentering our society” (as one of the gatekeepers called it). - Daybringer
But why am I addicted to your voice!? I could listen to you all day!
This video is so articulate, and the information and tips even also apply to people who don't have DID or PTSD, but maybe suffer from dealing with abuse, trauma, depression, anxiety, or self-injury behavior. Thanks 💖
Most of our persecutors have horrible mental disorders and self harm on the body. They are just very damaged babies needing love and protection to show them better ways of coping with these things. Sinner is our main persecutor but he’s also a protector. He tries to front most of the time and protect everyone from external threats but he’s the one who self harms the most when fronting. He’s been doing good lately though and hasn’t relapsed in a while.
D- They did this with me. But I got out, and now they're actually getting to know me. So that's been better. But yea this whole "evil alter" thing really painted me awful to everyone. And...I ended up really hurting the host a lot. But I'm recovering now. I'm fixing it.
we made the mistake of avoiding our persecutor and seeing him as a bad person, and it just made him worse. we thought he was just bad with no reason because of what he'd do, but in reality he was just upset with himself. he was a introject of our abuser and he hated himself for that, so he'd take it out on everyone else and the body. he's much better now, and we're happy we got everything figured out.
My persecutor is also a protector. When I was getting abused, I wished so hard to be someone who would fight back when I got cornered. She protects the body, but she hurts (mostly verbal) others who pose a threat. She became self injurious during the body's teen years. She's better now about that, but she's still got a temper.
Fake blood!!! That could be really beneficial for people that self harm. Good idea!
Many of our previous and present persecutor alters are also protectors or have changed their ways a lot and have become protectors.
My persecutor is mean because they are cold, their job is to switch in to stop us from crying
What about making a video about alters who don't identify with the body, but who have been long-term hosts since childhood, and how that experience might compare/contrast with the experience of long-term hosts who identify with the body? Especially when the non-identifying alter has had intense dissociative barriers between them and everyone else for... Ever. Idk I think it would create a really interesting discussion in the comments on varied experience.
Ex-persecutor here.
All I ever wanted to do was to help. I thought that making us present more neurotypically would help, but it. It really didn't.
Obviously.
I probably *caused* more trauma than we had to make us form haha.
But Moon was so kind. She always forgave me, always was there for me when I broke down, always listened, always loved me even though I didn't deserve it.
She's why I healed. She's why I changed.
So yeah.
If you have persecutors, please. Be patient and gentle with us. We're trying, we just... don't know how.
-Dark
We have a persecutor who's "thing" that he does is hurting a certain other alter in the system and with the help of our partner system, we're getting it worked out, but some of the ideas suggested really helped, like the fake blood recipie, so I just wanted to say thank you.💖
-Hanna(host)
Hey I’ve got a question for your q&a, how would you describe derealisation and depersonalisation to someone who’s never experienced it before? Also Thanks for being amazing btw I love your channel it’s really helpful.🖤
Gosh, I really needed this video. Thanks for making this guys! One of my persecutors just went dormant and the other is trying to deal with stuff.
Thank you.
Loving the new intro!
Also you couldn't have said this better. This is so so important.
- Artemis (I'm a Persecutor turned Protector)
Love your new video, folx
thank you for the video! we're actually dealing with one of our persecutors who's been reaaally really toxic lately. we're trying to reach out to him and give him healthy ways to express himself, and he kinda applies them but still, he needs help. i'm trying to learn as much as possible ways to do so and your video helps me a lot!
ive been watching you for a while now and just wanted to say this is really educational ! thank you nova!
(ps your editing has gotten really good)
Great video! I'd love to see a video on innocence holders and other more obscure roles in the future because I understand the common ones, but the less common ones often escape me
Judas (persecutor, maybe something else too now?) has been doing really well. He was forced to sort of take on a bigger more host-like role since the previous host has kind of disappeared and the rest of us have been scrambling trying to figure out what to do. He's been an extremely big help. We've been going through a lot lately and he's really stepped up in an unexpected way. -Jonas (social alter, since I was talking about roles)
The gang has a pretty strong persecutor who has recently found a voice in co-con singing with one of their younger members funny enough. some pretty full on music but he has a really great strong voice. So glad he isn't locked up anymore. :)
Thank you for this. This explains my persecutors telling me it's hard for me to fully switch with them when I do it every day according to my new therapist. They played mind games to let me think I was in more control when I'm not. Guess I busted them.
Um we locked someone up but it was not our persecutor. Jamielynn is our persecutor, we locked up an introject. A copy of an abuser in a panic. I am not sure there is a good way to handle them.
Q&A I don't really understand the system roles (social alter, etc) are there an infinite amount? How do you decide what each alter is? Sorry if that is to vague or to many questions. Love your channel!
Thank you guys so much for making these videos! I do not have DID, but I do have trauma and dissociate. These videos help me understand how other people's brains work, along with my own. You might be surprised with how much of what happens to the brain to create DID goes along with most people! This information has helped me realize when both myself, and the people around me go into different mindsets, and has helped me diffuse different situations with a way of explaining that makes sense. So thank you all again!! 💜
hi, i literally nothing to add, i just like your videos, and you all have really soothing voices.
:( When you want to ask your persecutor “why?” but you realize that you probably don’t want to know why.
I have about 11 persecutors/introjects and majority were programmed by abusers to be so so this video was really helpful. For a lot of them the main motivator seems to be fear beneath it all though. Like. massive fear.
For years: from my childhood to the teenage years, I was fighting with my own persecutor and he held many traumas and made me remember forcefully like "Oh yeah? You are gonna lose weight? You've tried this for so many times and you will not be able to do it again." but I discovered my DID on university years and then made a couple research on that. So many people were suggesting that I needed to communicate my alters and I did that and now this 'Evil Altar' of mine stopped make me remember bad things, actually he becomes a fiery protector like I sometimes hide my main character behind him and say "I'm powerless" and he instantly says "Okay leave this situation to me, no one can get through from my anger to hurt you. You are safe with me." like he gained some kind of confident and he even can defend other 8 alters of me. Although his energy of anger keeps increasing so I decided to use that energy with the cardio and boxing stuff. I wouldn't believe that the alter who bullies me with my own weight becomes the alter that encourage me to lose weight. So, that was the story of my evil alter becomes a powerful guardian. : ' )
Hey
I haven’t been following this channel for very long but I absolutely love this channel i find you all so amazing and the channel is veryyy educational
Thank u guys so much for making these videos xxxxxxx
Hell yesss!!!
I'm a recent integration and one of the partsss that made me wasss a persssecutor who had recovered and then relapsssed, it'sss good to sssee people trying to reduce the ssstigma and hatred towardsss them
-Loki (Hossst)
I want to know more about Avenger alters, bc I understand that they're supposed to 'avenge' the host, but what does that mean exactly is my question
Ohh guys I really like your videos 😍 I'd like to hear more from you about fragments... How are they compared to more complex alters? :3 how often do they front? Well I guess it also differs from system to system :3 but I really like how clearly you guys explain things.
For your q&a, do you have any advice for people who are a part of a system while in education? I have my finale exams in two weeks and I sometimes struggle to get work done when my alters want time around
Just requested to join the amino.😊 Wolf here
Can you talk about body/medical alters?
Just curious, but when an event happens in your inner world or to a specific alter does this usually have a psychological explanation? I guess what I mean is, for example, would the war symbolize some sort of inner turmoil, or do other major events tie in to what may be going on subconciously?
I guess that question might lead to other questions... and over all my questions might be dumb, but I'm just very curious.
thank you for your videos 😄. people think I am evil. I have DID, but my alters will not communicate with me yet. but I have destroyed three marriages and all relationships. any suggestions on getting them to work with me?
You have to reflect on why you made certain choices and why certain parts of you wanted to do that. Try meditation maybe. It clears the mind and help you connect to yourself.
We all enjoy all your videos.. you help us alters understand shit.. thank you very much. If it is okay, I shall make the Amenio thing and join in.. -Grunge, Isolative/Protective Prosecutor, age 25
Just asking, what does an emperor does in the system? I have watched quite a few youtuber with DID but they didnt have region emperor.
Yay!
Are persecutors usually older or can they be one of the littles?
Mine was based on a family member
It says it’s part two in the title. Just wanted to let you know
There is a part 1 a little further back
Acrylic And Aether oof😅
Unfortunately I must disagree. Some splits may be horribly evil, not just to the host, but literally all life.
Little s
I thought you weren't supposed to call persecutors bad? You just did, so.....