Hey would you guys ever consider doing a video series with someone who has poor mobility and seeing them progress? I haven't seen any videos online with a progression.
14:15 - yes! Finally someone gets it right about internal and external rotation - somewhere in the middle is usually optimal for most lifters. Crossfit teaches the external rotation approach, which I could never get to work when I started Crossfit - so... I moved more towards how the Oly lifters do it (more internal rotation) and my overhead squat improved dramatically.
Wow. This is incredible thank you. I"ve been having trouble with leaning forward, and I just followed along with this video and you just told me EXACTLY what I needed to know to improve. This is amazing, every single one of your videos improves what I do in the gym. My deadlift, squat, and bench press have been skyrocketing as a result of the manuals too. Thoracic mobility, improving leg strength, proper shoulder position... This truly is the best info I've seen on this and it's making me stronger without injury. Thanks again.
My mobility for snatch is mediocre. I did the mobility in this video and I can truly say that my ankle, and shoulder mobility is what is holding me. Let see if I can explain this. Once I set up on a standing position (like the lady in the video) dip and drive, Is hard for me to complete the Squat position. The PVC pipe shift to the front and I cant even go half way to a squat. In order for me to complete one overhead squat I have to widen my stand and dig down mentally so that I can do one, and this is with a 35lb bar. I am so happy that I found this video. I will continue to use this as a guide and hope that overtime I'll get better. - any constructive comments will be appreciated... thanks so much
WOW! Eye opening. I thought my ankle mobility was a problem. I did the wall test, and was able to put my knee to the door from 5 inches away without lifting the heel at all.
The info you all give is always great! The test of keeping your foot 3 inches from a wall to test ankle dorsiflexion really helped me. I had heard that it needed to be 5 inches and that seemed so difficult. I'm still gonna push for 5 but it helps to know that 3 is workable.
Paul Dangerfield yeh go for 5. With 3 u can most likely safely load your squat as long as u wear heeled shoes. Also the longer your femurs are the more range u would need
All of these things are great, but it makes it very hard to diagnose ones self (or learn how to diagnose) issues when the athletes you use have no imbalances or issues with squats or OHS. Overall great information.
Rahf Understand. But it would be nice to see someone with an imbalance(s) and see the steps to fixing them. Because like myself, I can squat with good form in oly shoes, but have butt wink without them and cannot OHS for the life of me. High bar squatting I can stay upright, but once my arms go overhead I end up with the torso angle of a low bar squat and my arms are in line with that angle. Putting 25lbs plate under my heels solves a lot of the the issues, but testing my ankle mobility (with your toe near a wall test) my knee goes well past my toes... But while doing an OHS I feel tightness/slight pain in my lower back... Is my problem my ankles, lats, QL, psoas, hips, maybe my shoulders, weak core or glutes ... all I'm saying is seeing someone fix a person with an actual imbalance would help a lot more people them showing us steps on an unbroken person...
@@clintonlane2687 Man you're describing the exact same problem that i have! :D I would really like to know, why I have to use those plates under my heels, since the mobility of my ankles are good enough...? When i try to keep my body upright while doing OHS i'm starting to have pain/tightness in my middle/upper back and the same time my hands are lowering to the front (the same line as my upper body). I can keep my hands pretty much over my head, if i take a lot wider grip, but still my upper body is leaning too much front. Annoying :)
Thank you so much for all your advices ! I can’t do over head squats/snatch because of my lack of mobility. I’ll try your exercises hopefully I will get better at it !
I am 70yr and just starting out..I am six weeks into it, but do you think I could drop when I had my arms up in the air..Noooooo,...I fell over backwards in the gym first time I tried it with a 20kg bar...then a week later fell over backwards at home in my shed trying to squat again with my arms out stretched..then I thought , what if i put some spare weights under my heels, and BINGO, it worked,,now afew hours later searching the weightlifting videos I see this one..Fantastic, Really good for us old fellas and fellesses...thanks for the content
I've avoided oh squats for the last 3 months. the last time I did them I pinched a nerve or something in my shoulder and couldn't feel my arm for days! Then my shoulder had a lot of pain for the following months. Trying to get myself to try them again
There's only one you. These are generalizations for you to make your own choices and fitness goals. The man is giving very good information in a positive light. The subject is an analog only. And of course you should see the complete movement for you to possibly reach. You're watching this because your brain is tired of just seeing you say you can't. It wants to see someone do. Good luck.
My gawd...this is a great channel! Dr. Henoch would these movements also carry over to, say, a squat jerk with just increased mobility or is there something particularly special that one needs to consider? Thanks!
I've noticed in myself that ankle mobility at the bottom is improved if I allow my ankles to pronate a little. If the knees don't point inward when you push out of the bottom position, is that detrimental?
thanks for a great tutorial. I can maintain form with the pvc pipe but as soon as I load a bar my body shifts forward. is this a pec/shoulder mobility issue or strength?
Hi Dr Quinn, I live in Perth, Australia and cannot find anyone to assess me. Is there someone in the pipeline or am I just unlucky and there's nobody here at all??? Thanks
Honestly man, I had horrible and I mean horrible mobility. I would literally be gasping for hair if I squatted my weight with proper form and I could t even begin to dream of performing a front squats let alone a overhead squat. I literally healed myself without seeing a PT or anything. I just diagnosed myself watched TH-cam videos addressing my mobility issues. It wasn't easy though, it took me about a year and a half of mindful lifting and stretching. You can do it too, it's just a bit harder without a PT.
Hi JTS and Dr. Henoch! GREAT VIDEO AGAIN! But I have one Question. How can I determine if the ankle Dorsiflexion is at the individual possible maximum (like bony restriktion)? Is there a test like the "hip-shape-test" (in your Squat-Video). Thx in advance!
What do I do if I have really long arms, a short torso, and limited shoulder mobility? In the power position, the bar hangs well below the crease of my hips, and I can’t comfortably widen my grip any further because I’m already very wide on the bar.
Several ppl I lift with, including myself have noticed the side wall squat position exercise really pinches the top of the shoulder. I've also noticed a lot of winged scaps. Is this lack of strength, poor rom, or something else? Is there a way to do this without a pinch ?
I'm the opposite. I can snatch fine, and my body goes in to the right position. But then when I want to overhead squat on its own I guess I just overthink it and can't do it as well. I hate those hang snatch + snatch + ohs drills.
Thanks for this content Quinn! I've been having a problem with my left arm when I dumbell snatch, it's definitely my left shoulder mobility... Bc I have no problem with my right arm. I also have been feeling a pop in my upper back (like something is moving) when I shrug with my left arm. This have been really hurting my progress, any tips?
Hey there very cool Channel,keep it up ! I have a question for Dr Quinn, what means when you have burning pain in to leg muscle when squating up ?and when I am saying burning senzation I mean like touching skin with red hot iron like.this manifest only on one leg.Am I dying ? :))
Yet to see K. Starrett, G Cook or any other movement specialist / physical therapist actually take someone who scores 1 on an FMS overhead squat and turns it into a 3. alot of talk but no real system in place to re program and redesign movement. it would appear that if you don't cultivate and develop these basic shapes and movements early on - you are set in your ways. you may be able to recover a few degrees of movement here and there but that's it!
Great vid and great content. But what's with the look of utter contempt from the lady every time she's asked to do something? I mean, look at 15:10. And the stink-eye at 18:41. Yikes!
Many useless tests that solve nothing, just work on the basic, learn to hold the bar over head properly by internally rotate and shrug the shoulder up, it will push your head forward and you will feel super stable, brace the core and keep the hip strong then just sit straight down to the calves. She definitely doesn't get the above criterias thus looks weak in the overhead position, and sit too far back causing weak hip and unbalanced, unstable bottom position. If you cant sit to your calves that means you have poor dorsiflexion, work on stretching your achilles tendons everyday. Coach has some ideas but they are not practical and I dont think they'll improve anything on the athletes.
Shavy she was doing the first test without a weightlifting shoe which is very difficult and requires so much mobility. Did you even watch the video ? This was actually helpful, don't just discredit it because the video is probably to long.
man this channel has the best content. thank you
Hey would you guys ever consider doing a video series with someone who has poor mobility and seeing them progress? I haven't seen any videos online with a progression.
Start showing this stuff on ppl who aren’t pros with full perfect form and super flexibility.
If one would have a coach that's half decent one should know all this already.
Agreed
Just start with a deep wide squat stretch... hold at the bottom.
14:15 - yes! Finally someone gets it right about internal and external rotation - somewhere in the middle is usually optimal for most lifters. Crossfit teaches the external rotation approach, which I could never get to work when I started Crossfit - so... I moved more towards how the Oly lifters do it (more internal rotation) and my overhead squat improved dramatically.
lmfao obviously the olympic weightlifter method is going to work. its olympic weightlifting, not crossfit.
Wow. This is incredible thank you. I"ve been having trouble with leaning forward, and I just followed along with this video and you just told me EXACTLY what I needed to know to improve. This is amazing, every single one of your videos improves what I do in the gym. My deadlift, squat, and bench press have been skyrocketing as a result of the manuals too. Thoracic mobility, improving leg strength, proper shoulder position... This truly is the best info I've seen on this and it's making me stronger without injury. Thanks again.
Henoch is superb. One of the very best.
My mobility for snatch is mediocre. I did the mobility in this video and I can truly say that my ankle, and shoulder mobility is what is holding me.
Let see if I can explain this.
Once I set up on a standing position (like the lady in the video) dip and drive, Is hard for me to complete the Squat position.
The PVC pipe shift to the front and I cant even go half way to a squat. In order for me to complete one overhead squat I have to widen my stand and dig down mentally so that I can do one, and this is with a 35lb bar.
I am so happy that I found this video. I will continue to use this as a guide and hope that overtime I'll get better.
- any constructive comments will be appreciated...
thanks so much
WOW! Eye opening. I thought my ankle mobility was a problem. I did the wall test, and was able to put my knee to the door from 5 inches away without lifting the heel at all.
me too
The supine mobility work is brilliant! Will def help sort out my left tighter shoulder.
You have just saved me from a complete mental breakdown over OHSquats…. A little more heel lift and it worked. Thank you so much!!!! ❤️
As a newbie to the oly lifts I greatly appreciate this vid....Juggernaut keep these types of info coming :))
The info you all give is always great! The test of keeping your foot 3 inches from a wall to test ankle dorsiflexion really helped me. I had heard that it needed to be 5 inches and that seemed so difficult. I'm still gonna push for 5 but it helps to know that 3 is workable.
Paul Dangerfield yeh go for 5. With 3 u can most likely safely load your squat as long as u wear heeled shoes. Also the longer your femurs are the more range u would need
So much valuable information. Thanks
All of these things are great, but it makes it very hard to diagnose ones self (or learn how to diagnose) issues when the athletes you use have no imbalances or issues with squats or OHS. Overall great information.
Clinton Lane if this were true then you would have no reason to be concerned in the first place?!
Jordan Byrne I believe you misread or misunderstood my comment.
Anything that deviates from what you see can be counted as an imbalance. Simple as that.
Rahf Understand. But it would be nice to see someone with an imbalance(s) and see the steps to fixing them. Because like myself, I can squat with good form in oly shoes, but have butt wink without them and cannot OHS for the life of me. High bar squatting I can stay upright, but once my arms go overhead I end up with the torso angle of a low bar squat and my arms are in line with that angle. Putting 25lbs plate under my heels solves a lot of the the issues, but testing my ankle mobility (with your toe near a wall test) my knee goes well past my toes... But while doing an OHS I feel tightness/slight pain in my lower back... Is my problem my ankles, lats, QL, psoas, hips, maybe my shoulders, weak core or glutes ... all I'm saying is seeing someone fix a person with an actual imbalance would help a lot more people them showing us steps on an unbroken person...
@@clintonlane2687 Man you're describing the exact same problem that i have! :D I would really like to know, why I have to use those plates under my heels, since the mobility of my ankles are good enough...? When i try to keep my body upright while doing OHS i'm starting to have pain/tightness in my middle/upper back and the same time my hands are lowering to the front (the same line as my upper body). I can keep my hands pretty much over my head, if i take a lot wider grip, but still my upper body is leaning too much front. Annoying :)
Great demonstration of various strategies to improve overhead squat.
Thank you so much for all your advices ! I can’t do over head squats/snatch because of my lack of mobility. I’ll try your exercises hopefully I will get better at it !
I am 70yr and just starting out..I am six weeks into it, but do you think I could drop when I had my arms up in the air..Noooooo,...I fell over backwards in the gym first time I tried it with a 20kg bar...then a week later fell over backwards at home in my shed trying to squat again with my arms out stretched..then I thought , what if i put some spare weights under my heels, and BINGO, it worked,,now afew hours later searching the weightlifting videos I see this one..Fantastic, Really good for us old fellas and fellesses...thanks for the content
this is awesome. it's not often i respect the advice on these sorts of videos. great work.
I am going to like this one before I watch just because of how perfect the timing is for me.
Holy shit this might be the best squat/mobility video I've seen all year - THANK YOU
best channel ever for info
Superb coaching, I love this channel. Keep it up.
Glad you enjoy it
pure gold information here...
I wish you can talk more about shoulder position.
Nithia Nathan www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2016/06/14/shoulder-position-for-the-overhead-squat/
Add me to that list
Excellent explanation of an overhead squat. Awesome job.
I've avoided oh squats for the last 3 months. the last time I did them I pinched a nerve or something in my shoulder and couldn't feel my arm for days! Then my shoulder had a lot of pain for the following months. Trying to get myself to try them again
Great video man, helped me so much
one of my weakest movements, great help!
There's only one you. These are generalizations for you to make your own choices and fitness goals. The man is giving very good information in a positive light. The subject is an analog only. And of course you should see the complete movement for you to possibly reach. You're watching this because your brain is tired of just seeing you say you can't. It wants to see someone do. Good luck.
fantastic progressions. You are a rock star!
14:51 Her: "Lol what mate"
Nice tips thanks!
Great content, thanks❤
My gawd...this is a great channel! Dr. Henoch would these movements also carry over to, say, a squat jerk with just increased mobility or is there something particularly special that one needs to consider? Thanks!
Hi.
Very good video, good quality.
Subtítulo Español excelente video saludos desde Argentina!!
ohg thanks just what i was looking for, please do more of these with
air squat
pistols
pull ups
muscle ups
great work!!
Can you make a video like this about sumo deadlift and maybe benchpress? Awesome stuff!
Great vid, gives me everything i need to dip my toe into the OH squat and progress, cool!:)
Great information guys 👏🏾👏🏾
Great Dr👍looking forward new video
My pelvis goes from severe posterior to anterior pelvic tilt as I rock backwards in the quadruped position.
Great video, thanks for this
awesome video!!! thanks!!!
I've noticed in myself that ankle mobility at the bottom is improved if I allow my ankles to pronate a little. If the knees don't point inward when you push out of the bottom position, is that detrimental?
i need one of this videos helping me with pistolss
How do you avoid hitting the back of the head with the snatch balance ?
No Bullshit! Just straight to the point like in bullet points. I like 19:10 keep practicing! Great video and thanks!
Some valuable points! Where would you place a Hang Snatch among those variations? Thanks.
great stuff ! thanks
thanks for a great tutorial. I can maintain form with the pvc pipe but as soon as I load a bar my body shifts forward. is this a pec/shoulder mobility issue or strength?
Nick Charles no way of telling which one without pictures for reference man hahah
If you can do it with very low load but not under higher load then it is a stability or strength issue.
Hi Dr Quinn, I live in Perth, Australia and cannot find anyone to assess me. Is there someone in the pipeline or am I just unlucky and there's nobody here at all??? Thanks
Honestly man, I had horrible and I mean horrible mobility. I would literally be gasping for hair if I squatted my weight with proper form and I could t even begin to dream of performing a front squats let alone a overhead squat. I literally healed myself without seeing a PT or anything. I just diagnosed myself watched TH-cam videos addressing my mobility issues. It wasn't easy though, it took me about a year and a half of mindful lifting and stretching. You can do it too, it's just a bit harder without a PT.
What about shoulders, lats and chest...
Hi JTS and Dr. Henoch! GREAT VIDEO AGAIN! But I have one Question.
How can I determine if the ankle Dorsiflexion is at the individual possible maximum (like bony restriktion)?
Is there a test like the "hip-shape-test" (in your Squat-Video).
Thx in advance!
👍👍👍👍👍👍 the best video of all. There is nothing more to say.
What do I do if I have really long arms, a short torso, and limited shoulder mobility? In the power position, the bar hangs well below the crease of my hips, and I can’t comfortably widen my grip any further because I’m already very wide on the bar.
Several ppl I lift with, including myself have noticed the side wall squat position exercise really pinches the top of the shoulder. I've also noticed a lot of winged scaps. Is this lack of strength, poor rom, or something else? Is there a way to do this without a pinch ?
thank you
7:00 woah hold on please explain how to do this? I really need this
*EDIT: found the information needed at **15:36**. Thank you!*
I'm the opposite. I can snatch fine, and my body goes in to the right position. But then when I want to overhead squat on its own I guess I just overthink it and can't do it as well. I hate those hang snatch + snatch + ohs drills.
That's me I abandon the system when my arms fall forward during the squat 😡 HELP!!
14:30 the origin of "REACH"
Very helpful !
very helpful, thank u
Thank You So Much
Ty
Thanks for this content Quinn! I've been having a problem with my left arm when I dumbell snatch, it's definitely my left shoulder mobility... Bc I have no problem with my right arm. I also have been feeling a pop in my upper back (like something is moving) when I shrug with my left arm. This have been really hurting my progress, any tips?
Thank you!
Peace & B Great!!!
How do we work on the strength for the overhead squat?
ChillAxeNinja put weight on the bar
@@usmanfarooq96 lmao
Thanks for the great wisdome
where's Elaine!?!?! 😔
lol my question exactly!!!
Hey there very cool Channel,keep it up ! I have a question for Dr Quinn, what means when you have burning pain in to leg muscle when squating up ?and when I am saying burning senzation I mean like touching skin with red hot iron like.this manifest only on one leg.Am I dying ? :))
I found out that is Meralgia Paresthetica,
I wish I never entered this 'rabbit hole of hell' of internal vs external shoulder rotation :(
Yet to see K. Starrett, G Cook or any other movement specialist / physical therapist actually take someone who scores 1 on an FMS overhead squat and turns it into a 3.
alot of talk but no real system in place to re program and redesign movement. it would appear that if you don't cultivate and develop these basic shapes and movements early on - you are set in your ways.
you may be able to recover a few degrees of movement here and there but that's it!
Good stuff!
Damn good video! Thank's!
“Dysfunctional” is indeed a WORD
Wow, not even a hint of a smile when he introduced her! Ice queen!
She looks like she’s pissed at him.
@@spacemansabs maybe there is "history" between them
Damn I like this dude..
Dr. Quinn do not read this.
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Liz hello
Liz, pardon me asking, are you related to John Malkovich?
Fantastic training video. Exactly what I am looking for. Thank you. Liz, smile.
"...dysfunction... *IF THAT'S EVEN A WORD*
What an accusation SIR
Why is she looking at him like he did something bad to her !
AL ARRAB bro I know! I feel like she hates him haha
just her resting face i think lol
she has great skin
Indeed
Great vid and great content. But what's with the look of utter contempt from the lady every time she's asked to do something? I mean, look at 15:10. And the stink-eye at 18:41. Yikes!
Lmao
Very interesting and useful explanation , But find him very rude towards her, orders rather than requests ...
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This guy sure does like to tell women to squat down and take loads............Great info though.
Dysfunction is in fact a word XD
A lot of informations but no one get into the point i hope the truth spread for free in this world that's what gonna make the world better
What is this, crossfit or something like that?
weightlifting pete davidson
He's only cheating on her with other clients.
Why is she so grumpy??
I think its because of you
I don't take diet and exercise advise from fat people and I don't take squat advice from someone in a pair of size medium pants
as soon as i heard mobility i knew this was crap
Many useless tests that solve nothing, just work on the basic, learn to hold the bar over head properly by internally rotate and shrug the shoulder up, it will push your head forward and you will feel super stable, brace the core and keep the hip strong then just sit straight down to the calves. She definitely doesn't get the above criterias thus looks weak in the overhead position, and sit too far back causing weak hip and unbalanced, unstable bottom position. If you cant sit to your calves that means you have poor dorsiflexion, work on stretching your achilles tendons everyday. Coach has some ideas but they are not practical and I dont think they'll improve anything on the athletes.
Shavy she was doing the first test without a weightlifting shoe which is very difficult and requires so much mobility. Did you even watch the video ? This was actually helpful, don't just discredit it because the video is probably to long.
it seems that the gir is not happy.