the most horrifying part of this whole thing so far is how everyone treats Maria. Obviously, i believe her about the witch stuff, but if I didn't, I would assume she was just wildly mentally ill. I cannot BELIEVE everyone just smacking her around for no reason! Like, no shit, she wouldn't grasp the reality of the situation. She's NINE.
It was incredibly hard for me to watch that scene with her mom assaulting her, while the rest of the cast just awkwardly side eyes each other, make some paltry excuses then leave. To me Maria’s vocal tic reads as something outside of her control, like a stim she uses to manage her emotions. So it just makes it worse that the thing she uses to comfort herself is being used as a reason to hurt her.
The way Natsuhi dealt with her actually was the best imo. Made it clear what Maria was saying was inappropriate with a look that meant she was extremely serious. Although my assumption would be the same lol. Immediately was like, "sounded like me as a kid saying some out of pocket rude shit" As someone with autism, me and other autistic friends agree that being told something was inappropriate vs physical punishment/excusing it as shithead 9 yo, worked better because we knew it wasn't accepted instead of being confused why we were in trouble
What's even more frustrating is even if they never believed her about the witches it should have raised alarm bells that someone is pretending to be the golden witch. All they had to do was play along with Maria and she could help they understand the game the culprit is playing. But nope they abuse the child and die for not listening.
According to the lore, her mother conceived her from a random man. Maria will never know who her father is. Rose herself is trying to improve her personal life and career, leaving her in the care of herself, as a result of which she mastered magic and invented a toy guard. I do not justify Rose, but from her point of view it is logical. On the second try it becomes clear that Rose is considered a loser and in conversations with her brothers and sister, she stays away from everyone. But at the same time, when everyone is killed, she is not very worried and, taking a piece of gold, runs away from the mansion with Maria. I think this is a matter of family and money that put a lot of pressure on her.
I think Rosa is a wonderful example of the themes of Umineko. I won't justify her. But I can understand her. A good character to lead you to the heart of Beatrice.
Preach 🤍 Just because the character is “Bad”- Morally despicable, doesn’t IN THE LEAST make them ‘badly written’. A lot of people… Especially in like Twitter, for example… Would rather ‘cancel a problematic’ character, Then, see them redeemed. Which is understandable, I suppose {(with people who fail to see their own flaws, it’s much easier to demonize the flaws of others)… For the characters where redemption isn’t an Arc/ Possibility, they will experience. I think; it’s important to remember that if that Character makes one upset if they evoke strong emotions when they commit.. certain actions, that’s good writing! They’re exactly Created TO do that!
As someone only diving into the rabbit hole now and watched this entire video... I just realized this is 1/9 episodes. There really is no way to escape the length of this series is there
Reading the manga is substantially faster, has the perk of being visually stunning, and cuts out most of the fluff the vns have, for both better and worse.
*Characters* 👨👩👦👦 1:39 Kinzo Ushiromiya - Refuses to leave his fortune to his family in his will. 6:12 Battler Ushiromiya 6:59 George Ushiromiya 7:43 Hideyoshi Ushiromiya, George's Dad. 8:26 Eva Ushiromiya, Kinzo's George's Mom 9:09 Kyrie Ushiromiya, Battler's Mom. 10:11 Rudolph Ushiromiya, Battler's Dad. 10:40 Rosa Ushiromiya, Youngest Child of Kinzo. 11:20 Maria Ushiromiya, Rosa's 9 Year-Old Daughter. *The Plane Ride, The Boat Ride* ✈🛬, 🛥 12:40 The Plane Ride freaks out Battler. 13:18 Jessica Ushiromiya. 13:54 Battler and Jessica interact. 14:58 George and Maria enter the conversation 15:24 Chiyo Kumasawa, Elderly 80 Year-Old Servant Woman. 17:34 SPEED BOAT RIDE TO THE ISLAND! 18:08 Jessica speaks about her parents. *Reaching Rokkenjima Island* 🏝 19:28 Rokkenjima Island - an un-noteworthy island of The Rich Ushiromiya Family. 20:20 Maria is missing something. Maria noticed a Shrine upon Rokkenjima Island has Disappeared! 21:46 "There is nothing to be afraid of if we are all together." 22:23 Gohda Toshiro , Chef Servant of The Island. 🤌 24:04 Maria will 24:32 The Guest House near The Rose Garden. 🌹 25:20 Kanon, The Furniture Servant *The Guest House & The Mansion* 🏘 28:04 2 Persons Per Room. 30:40 Tickle Fights aside. 31:48 Natsuhi Ushiromiya + Genuinely kind woman. 33:36 Kyrie, Rosa, Natsuhi have Tea 🫖🍵 34:07 Shannon, Clumsy Servant Girl of The Ushiromiya Family. 36:15 Genji Ronoue, The Competent Butler Servant of The Ushiromiya Family. 37:26 Shannon and Battler interaction. *Beatrice* 39:40 The Painting of Beatrice. Is She Real? Is She Fake? Is She A Witch? *The Dining Hall* 😋 41:25 The Ushiromiya Family Seating Chart of The Dining Room Table. 42:43 Kinzo Ushiromiya, Survivng on Anger and Alcohol. 43:20 Krauss Ushiromiya, The Elder Statesman. 43:44 Nanjo Terumasa, The Old Doctor of Rokkenjima Island. 45:37 Kinzo's Bet. _The Kinzo Ushiromiya Inheritance_ 46:12 Krauss Ushiromiya intends to keep Kinzo's Fortune all to himself. *On The Beach* 48:29 Maria and Battler seek to find a Key to The Golden Land. 50:13 The 10 Twilights. 51:51 Shannon's Account of Beatrice. 53:03 A Storm Comes to Rokkenjima Island ⛈ 53:23 Where is Maria's Rose from The Rose Garden ?🌹 56:00 Mom Rosa slaps her daughter Maria. 58:18 KO'd Maria. _The Roulette of Fate_ 1:01:44 ("The Die is Cast.") 1:02:37 Where is Maria? 1:04:09 Apology. 1:04:53 Kinzo will leave his study if Beatrice appears. 1:06:42 Did Beatrice give Maria an Umbrella? ☔ 1:07:27 The Letter From Kinzo? 💌 From Beatrice? 1:08:23 The Beatrice Letter 💌 explaining her contractual terms/clauses. 1:11:07 The Ushiromiya Children agree not to fight over money like The Ushiromiya Adults do. *Who is Beatrice?* 1:11:29 Who gave Maria the Beatrice Letter? Is Beatrice one of the 18 People on The Island? Is Beatrice a 19th Person? 1:12:58 _A Devil's Proof_ *The Mystery Begins* 1:14:40 Rudolph Ushiromiya, Battler's Dad, has become frail and weak. 1:16:22 The Gold! A Gold Inget with The Ushiromiya Family Crest is Found! 1:20:05 George proposes to Shannon 💍❤ 1:21:15 1:22:11 *The Tragedy on Rokkenjima Island's Storeroom, October 5th, 1986* 1:23:44 Morning Chores. 1:24:55 Bloody Handprints 🩸 and 5 People are Missing! 1:26:38 Maria gets lonely. WAKE UP! 1:27:19 Natsuhi's Moment. 1:31:32 DONT COME ANY CLOSER! 1:31:59 AAAAAAAAAA - Rudolph - Rosa - Kyrie - Gohda - Krauss. Brutally Murdered! Laying Dead 💀💀💀💀💀 1:33:20 Shannon was murdered too, 6 People Murdered. 💀 1:34:45 The Storehouse is Locked to prevent any crime scene tampering 🔒 *Investigating The Murder of The 6 People* 1:36:00 1:37:01 Maria asks about the murder. 1:38:24 Breakfast Break to calm down. 1:38:57 _Who Did It? Who Is The Murderer of Rokkenjima Island?_ Suspects - The Servants 1:41:13 The Servants had nothing to gain - Eva Ushiromiya 1:42:15 Creepy Maria, The 7th Magic Circle of The Sun, to borrow the power of The Sun. 1:44:17 Who is The Culprit? *Dealing With The Murder Situation* 1:44:47 1:45:44 About Beatrice. She Exists. She has no form. She has no body. She takes the form of Golden Butterflies. Golden butterflies hurt people. 1:47:19 Battler - Beatrice doesn't exist. Mis-matched Wavelength. 1:48:53 Battler - Magic Does Not Exist. 1:49:43 Battler - Maria is a kid with a lack of life experience. 1:50:44 What does The Culprit Want? 1:52:52 Eva planted a receipt to throw suspicion on Natsuhi. 1:56:36 When was the Time of Death? 1:57:20 NATSUHI PULLS OUT HER GUN! 1:58:33 Battler's Retort! *More Suspense!* 2:02:22 Eva and Hideyoshi's Moment Together. 2:04:37 2:05:08 Another Envelope! 2:06:40 Another Magic Circle, with a different shape! 2:07:24 EVA IS DEAD! HIDEYOSHI IS DEAD! 2:09:20 BATTLER VOWS TO EXPOSE THE KILLER TONIGHT! 2:10:05 A Bad Smell. *Analyzing The Eva and Hideyoshi Corpses* 2:10:45 What does it mean? How was this possible? 2:12:21 Blame it on Beatrice? 2:13:04 The First Magic Circle of The Moon *The Boiler Room* 2:15:12 Kanon. 2:19:12 Dies. 2:22:33 Who is The Killer? *Trying To Survive* 2:25:41 Survive Until Tomorrow. 2:27:07 Stay in The Study to Survive. 2:27:55 Inside The Study. 2:29:16 Who is Beatrice to Kinzo Ushiromiya? Kinzo loved Beatrice. 2:32:47 Solving The Epitath. 2:33:32 A New Letter Appears out of nowhere! 2:34:00 Abandon Hope. 2:35:51 Protecting Each Other. *Find Maria* 2:37:37 Discord. 2:38:25 A Phone Call. Maria Singing in the distance. 2:40:29 What is all this, Maria?! 2:42:20 Natsuhi's Gunshot. 2:44:54 The Golden Land. 2:51:51 Learn The Rules, Find The Win Conditions. Win The Game.
...I just have to...This is not in any way a dramatic retelling. It is a CLINICAL retelling meaning an analytical deep dive devoid of the stories dramatic features. There now I feel better.
I love this video!! And I really want to see the next part. During these days when I'm questioning my existence. I'm glad to find someone making a really in-depth video of this. I hope to see the second part. And I wish if you're also struggling with the same, everything hopefully will get better
this is the best umineko explained vid that exists on youtube you did an amazing job!! i love listening to videos as I draw and this vid is so informative!! as someone who has only read the manga (oops) its nice to listen to a recap vid like this of the VN
Incredible effort making this. I fear this is an ambitious project that may span several years without seeing an end, but either way truly respect the commitment to such a great story.
This was fire as hell!! I love how every story bit was kept in the context of this episode and there wasn't any foreshadowing to the other ones. Plus, the voice actors killed it and your narrating was super engaging. We need episode 2!! Keep up the great work!!!
I could not imagine the sheer amount of work that must have gone into this; THIS IS INCREDIBLE! I tried to make a full fledged umi fandub and it was nigh impossible. Thank you wow. I wish I had something like this when I was reading umi! If you ever need some voices or anythin’, I’m your gal!
This is hilarious because I am currently making plans to do exactly that, I'm only held back by lack of voices. call it foolish, but I've written off those who tried before me as the failings of lesser men and I am optimistic that I can dub at least the first episode in its entirety.
@@Miffnessunfortunately I still lack voice actors, apart from myself. I still want to do this but it’s looking more and more like I’m going to have to find freelancers to finish this and that’s just not financially feasible for me right now. Feel free to spread the word, if any volunteers are interested in helping out.
Finally finished watching this, and it was a great explanation of the 1st arc. Everything the anime didn't cover is here, so the story is starting to make more sense. Wondering how much Umineko's going to relate with Higurashi, which I've already watched all of, and read most of the manga of the main 8 arcs. Great job, and I'm excited for part 2!
@@allthingsnba3710 Higurashi Gou and Sotsu have Eua, who looks like Featherine, but "isn't" Umineko's anime stops right before introducing characters like Featherine and Erika
Didn't the anime sum (rush) this whole arc in like...1 or 3 episodes?! This is proof that they could have unraveled their own mess in 3 hours worth. Given one episode is 30 minutes they could easily have made 6 episodes worth of adaptation, and ending the season with 6 more maybe covering half of the second arc and leave an exciting cliffhanger there. Or just a 6 episode OVA teasing the story by just showing the 1st arc.
@@filypa101 telling a story and showing a story arn't the same thing. They can't put all this dense information into a visual medium without taking way more time. Anyone with even the smallest amount of experience with a visual medium knows you have no clue what you're talking about.
Maria being violently punished for what I honestly think is a vocal stim really upsets me. It’s likely a sign of neurodivergence and her echoing what people say to her is also something called echolalia. These signs are also present in children with autism. Imagine watching a mother beat her autistic nine year old daughter for a sound she makes to soothe and regulate herself. Sickening. And everyone just… brushes it off.
Looking back on it, it's amazing how everything you needed to make a good guess as to who the culprit is, as well as their motive, is right there in the first episode.
I REALLY wish you continued with this series. You did it so well. I would have loved to see you bring it the rest of the way. You definitely have a new subsscriber in hopes. I know its a lot of work for potentially low payoff. but if it got 33k views on a under 700 sub channel. You did something right.
Hi there, thank you for subscribing! I probably will not continue this series but I do have other long form youtube videos planned. I've been busy with other projects for a little while now.
@@clairelynnd I do hope you reconsider coming back to it at some point. There is no other video like this about Umineko. Obviously others have done whatever retrospectives but this was different. This scratches an itch that I think more then just me liked having itched. It could become an achieving series if it was made to conclusion is all. Especially on watch time. I was there beginning to end and immediately went looking to see if you had done more. That's a hard thing to achieve on this platform to get anyone to do that. Like literally anyone. Imagine completing it and then having a playlist. It could go nuclear huge. When they cry is a very salt OR pepper thing on TH-cam. There isn't a lot of quality content that goes in on it like you did there. Maybe there is on like Higurashi. But not on Umineko at all. It serves and taps into a very underserviced interest here on the platform and just from a growth standpoint and a bit of a begging standpoint I wouldn't technically be doing my job as a QA staffer without suggesting it is all XD. Have a good day!
Love the video. I like what u chose to include and to exclude and explain the reasons in the video Also super funny humor with your personal jabs on a lot of characters
As a relative newcomer to When They Cry, it fills me with joy to still see new WTC content whether it be memes or lets plays so many years after they ended. I’m anxiously awaiting for more of Ciconia to drop so I can start reading it.
I just finished watching the video and omg I can’t wait for the next part!!!❤ I don’t think I’ll ever play this game but I loved how you made this video, now I want to know what happens next and I can’t wait!! I’m full of questions!!
This is so well done! I adore Umineko and it makes me happy to get videos such as this that help give it more love and attention! And yes I agree that Kanon is best boy!
To be honest even though it may seem extremely disturbing to many, I justify Rosa most of the time. I mean she didn't even had a childhood that most kids have.... She was always bullied by ALL of her siblings... Verbally by Eva, physically by Krauss and Rudolf flirted with her friends and they were leaving her to flirt back with him... Her husband stole her money, left her with debts and a problematic child (and I am not saying that in a bad way of course) and disappeared.... her daughter was calling her ''Black witch''.... she had the guilt of killing Kuwadorian Beatrice just because she just wanted to show her the outside world.... In the end in my opinion Rosa is just a bullied victim who was weak to break the chain of abuse. A parent who doesn't know or haven't learned how to love by anyone....how can he or she show love to his/her child?? And maybe that's why she was spoiling her by buying her everything she wanted. She was trying to show Maria that she loved her on her own way. Everyone acts differently. Some are strong and overcome their problems and some others don't. I of course am not okay with Rosa hitting Maria but I can understand the reason she acts like that. She is also my favorite human character in Umineko.
Just because we know what caused her to be an abuser doesn’t erase the abuse. Yes she has a tragic backstory, but that doesn’t mean she gets to just abuse and neglect her daughter. She is no longer a child she does know better. Maria is a child. She is vulnerable and needs to be helped and cared for. At the very least she could’ve sought out resources to learn how to be a good parent.
@@aequoreavicq Unfortunately Rosa stayed an immature child. She grew up in body but not in mind. Maybe that's why she didn't take her job seriously and her company had issues. She just needed her husband and maybe she would get the help she needed. I still have the same mindset as I always had about Rosa. Eva or Kyrie are not better. No matter what Rosa was doing to her daughter, she was the only one who kept her child alive till the end of episode 2 doing everything in her power to protect her. She never left her alone after the first murders. While Eva left George to wander around in a mansion full of dead people. So no, Rosa is not fitted to be a mother, but at least she tries in her own way to be one
I've recently started getting into umineko and im still reading through the first episode: legend of the golden witch and im starting to get interested this video managed to compress hours and hours of one segment of umineko's story into a 2 hour video And Im all for it :D
Thank you for such an amazingly detailed video. I've only managed to get through the first arc in both manga and anime form and have not been able to make myself invested in the plot. Higurashi is one of my favorite pieces of fiction ever so I wanted to explore Umineko, but thus far it's been really challenging for me. I'll definitely watch more of your videos on it when they come out though, you have a very clear concise way of explaining things that makes it feel less daunting to explore. I unfortunately have zero time and bandwidth for reading the visual novel, so I appreciate the explanation of the important details the anime and manga left out. I hope learning more about the story through your explanations helps me get a deeper understanding and appreciation for this series!
@@DarthMizaru There's 3 versions of the sprites: the pre-2010 originals, the Steam release, and the PS3 release sprites. All versions have the option to read with the original sprites, and there's free mods to read the Steam version with the PS3 sprites plus the voice acting that went along with that version.
ok im someone who is watching this bc its been almost half a year since i continued EP 5 (altho ive been spoiled years ago bc i read the manga when it was still releasing unlocalized translations) and ive actually been thinking of making smth like this for my friend who's stuck in ep 2 and need a way to summarize stuff bc a lot of umineko videos tend not to summarize the story in fear of ruining the experience (which is fair, but i feel bad for people who have a hard time getting back to it) so it's p cool to see somebody already doing it in the first place 😁 anyway... i do want to add on abt smth that i'll put under EP 8 spoilers at least . . . . . . . . . 6:46 it's heavily implied (or how i interpret it at least) that since this was written from Y*s*'s perspective, this was how she perceived Battler in her forgeries due to her last interaction before the 86 family conference (basically gender dysphoria go brr) ALSO im sorry umineko fandom im at work and cannot access the rot13 website so i cannot hide this unless i edit the comment 😭😭😭
This was so good! I never plan on reading umineko because I don't have the time or patience for it but I'm willing to watch this. I see it's been 9 months, will you make another one?
Can you share the 2 part to this series. I feel that you made it very digestible and entertaining. I myself can't get into this series due to neurodivergency
It's a shame you seem to don''t make more videos like this or any videos at all, but I understand why. It must be a crazy load of work. I am glad you made this one. It was fun to watch. Thanks you.
I’ve been planning to replay umineko but dreading getting into Legend again since ive read the manga and watched those anime episodes so it’s probably the freshest umineko episode in my mind so I really do appreciate this recap 😂
God, the scene with Rose hitting Maria made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable. As someone who was abused, it hit too close to home. Even if Maria was being a brat about the rose, most of the argument wasn't even ABOUT the rose. It was about Rosa not liking that her daughter says "uu-uu" alot which I don't think Maria can even control but okay. And the fact that everyone just fucking left her with her physically abusive mother because they didn't want to get between a "parent and child argument"?? I fucking hated it.
Ik right? I'm kinda just watching this and don't know stuff about umineko but the way she absolutely freaks out about the vocal stim specifically feels really disturbing. And calls into memory how people very often treat autistic kids with vocal stims
Knowing rules X, Y, and Z makes this video play completely differently. If you want to solve Umineko, try and find the rules of the game, by which all the Question arcs abide
This is cool cuz I finished ep1 and then had to stop playing for a while, so this will allow me to go back and take some notes to maybe solve the mystery on my own!
“Has no friends because of her weird magick obsession?” Damn this Maria character sounds relatable. Also, I liked to imagine that the title to this story, with “Umineko” instead of “Higurashi,” would mean something like “When the Sea-cats Cry,” since as far as I knew, neko always meant cat & umi meant sea/ocean… And that there would be some kind of kawaii underwater creature called a sea-cat (or I thought maybe they was what they called catfish or something), & that the same way in Higurashi, chapters or scary scenes are always punctuated with the cries of the evening cicadas, the scenes & chapters in Umineko would be punctuated with whatever noise the sea-cats make… Alternatively either some kind of horrible screeching that would be hilarious if it was used to try to set the atmosphere for a Higurashi-style game about mages, or else they’d just go “nyan, nyan” adorably like a neko, except kind of distorted like they’re underwater. Also, I have to say, beginning & ending every sentence with “UwU” is a huge downgrade from the cutesy character being Rika saying “Meep!” & “Nipah,” or even Rena saying “Hauuu.” But it is still an improvement relative to Hanyuu saying “Hauhauhauhauhau” annoyingly, in a way no sentient being in the infinite cosmos would ever do.
The scene where Rosa hits Maria gives me a vivid flashback of how my parents (my mom especially) used to smack me in the face hard whenever I cried due to injury/something bad happened/something unfair happened. They always yelled at me for crying and I needed to grow up. Even when I was only 6-10. I was the eldest sister, and I was forced to grow up faster.
I see your bits of foreshadowing in the beginning of this video. George has "never even held hands with a girl". Given the first chapter of Umineko, this takes on a different meaning.
I really like the video, but Why would you just stop audibly speaking the scenes aloud in the middle of the story? You acknowledged a lot of people just like to listen to videos like this in your video, then stopped.
It's a good start but this is far from complete. That more people don't point that out is probably a sign that not many people who commented actually took the time to watch the video. The presentation is wildly inconsistent too, sometimes you leave ten minute blocks of the game in unedited, sometimes it's voiced by your friends, sometimes you use text to speech. It couldn't hurt to be more conssitent. Good start, though maybe you shouldn't start something if you don't plan on finishing it (you clearly aren't motivated to do it so don't pretend pls lmao)
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the most horrifying part of this whole thing so far is how everyone treats Maria. Obviously, i believe her about the witch stuff, but if I didn't, I would assume she was just wildly mentally ill. I cannot BELIEVE everyone just smacking her around for no reason! Like, no shit, she wouldn't grasp the reality of the situation. She's NINE.
It was incredibly hard for me to watch that scene with her mom assaulting her, while the rest of the cast just awkwardly side eyes each other, make some paltry excuses then leave. To me Maria’s vocal tic reads as something outside of her control, like a stim she uses to manage her emotions. So it just makes it worse that the thing she uses to comfort herself is being used as a reason to hurt her.
The way Natsuhi dealt with her actually was the best imo. Made it clear what Maria was saying was inappropriate with a look that meant she was extremely serious.
Although my assumption would be the same lol. Immediately was like, "sounded like me as a kid saying some out of pocket rude shit" As someone with autism, me and other autistic friends agree that being told something was inappropriate vs physical punishment/excusing it as shithead 9 yo, worked better because we knew it wasn't accepted instead of being confused why we were in trouble
As far as kids go, Maria is kinda insufferable ngl. PS: Doesn't justify anything done to her, though.
What's even more frustrating is even if they never believed her about the witches it should have raised alarm bells that someone is pretending to be the golden witch.
All they had to do was play along with Maria and she could help they understand the game the culprit is playing. But nope they abuse the child and die for not listening.
According to the lore, her mother conceived her from a random man. Maria will never know who her father is. Rose herself is trying to improve her personal life and career, leaving her in the care of herself, as a result of which she mastered magic and invented a toy guard. I do not justify Rose, but from her point of view it is logical. On the second try it becomes clear that Rose is considered a loser and in conversations with her brothers and sister, she stays away from everyone. But at the same time, when everyone is killed, she is not very worried and, taking a piece of gold, runs away from the mansion with Maria. I think this is a matter of family and money that put a lot of pressure on her.
I think Rosa is a wonderful example of the themes of Umineko. I won't justify her. But I can understand her. A good character to lead you to the heart of Beatrice.
Preach 🤍
Just because the character is “Bad”- Morally despicable, doesn’t IN THE LEAST make them ‘badly written’.
A lot of people… Especially in like Twitter, for example… Would rather ‘cancel a problematic’ character, Then, see them redeemed. Which is understandable, I suppose {(with people who fail to see their own flaws, it’s much easier to demonize the flaws of others)… For the characters where redemption isn’t an Arc/ Possibility, they will experience.
I think; it’s important to remember that if that Character makes one upset if they evoke strong emotions when they commit.. certain actions, that’s good writing!
They’re exactly Created TO do that!
As someone only diving into the rabbit hole now and watched this entire video... I just realized this is 1/9 episodes. There really is no way to escape the length of this series is there
I know... this is very abridged and its still super long
@@clairelynnd I'm so impressed you went through the game, digested it AND made this video 🙌 Thank uuu
Reading the manga is substantially faster, has the perk of being visually stunning, and cuts out most of the fluff the vns have, for both better and worse.
@@wolf10alpha68Alright, I'll trust you and check it out.
@@wolf10alpha68for some reason I can't fucking get the vn on my laptop so i started the manga(and watched a couple of gameplays) really it's worth it
*Characters* 👨👩👦👦
1:39 Kinzo Ushiromiya - Refuses to leave his fortune to his family in his will.
6:12 Battler Ushiromiya
6:59 George Ushiromiya
7:43 Hideyoshi Ushiromiya, George's Dad.
8:26 Eva Ushiromiya, Kinzo's George's Mom
9:09 Kyrie Ushiromiya, Battler's Mom.
10:11 Rudolph Ushiromiya, Battler's Dad.
10:40 Rosa Ushiromiya, Youngest Child of Kinzo.
11:20 Maria Ushiromiya, Rosa's 9 Year-Old Daughter.
*The Plane Ride, The Boat Ride* ✈🛬, 🛥
12:40 The Plane Ride freaks out Battler.
13:18 Jessica Ushiromiya.
13:54 Battler and Jessica interact.
14:58 George and Maria enter the conversation
15:24 Chiyo Kumasawa, Elderly 80 Year-Old Servant Woman.
17:34 SPEED BOAT RIDE TO THE ISLAND!
18:08 Jessica speaks about her parents.
*Reaching Rokkenjima Island* 🏝
19:28 Rokkenjima Island - an un-noteworthy island of The Rich Ushiromiya Family.
20:20 Maria is missing something. Maria noticed a Shrine upon Rokkenjima Island has Disappeared!
21:46 "There is nothing to be afraid of if we are all together."
22:23 Gohda Toshiro , Chef Servant of The Island. 🤌
24:04 Maria will
24:32 The Guest House near The Rose Garden. 🌹
25:20 Kanon, The Furniture Servant
*The Guest House & The Mansion* 🏘
28:04 2 Persons Per Room.
30:40 Tickle Fights aside.
31:48 Natsuhi Ushiromiya + Genuinely kind woman.
33:36 Kyrie, Rosa, Natsuhi have Tea 🫖🍵
34:07 Shannon, Clumsy Servant Girl of The Ushiromiya Family.
36:15 Genji Ronoue, The Competent Butler Servant of The Ushiromiya Family.
37:26 Shannon and Battler interaction.
*Beatrice*
39:40 The Painting of Beatrice. Is She Real? Is She Fake? Is She A Witch?
*The Dining Hall* 😋
41:25 The Ushiromiya Family Seating Chart of The Dining Room Table.
42:43 Kinzo Ushiromiya, Survivng on Anger and Alcohol.
43:20 Krauss Ushiromiya, The Elder Statesman.
43:44 Nanjo Terumasa, The Old Doctor of Rokkenjima Island.
45:37 Kinzo's Bet.
_The Kinzo Ushiromiya Inheritance_
46:12 Krauss Ushiromiya intends to keep Kinzo's Fortune all to himself.
*On The Beach*
48:29 Maria and Battler seek to find a Key to The Golden Land.
50:13 The 10 Twilights.
51:51 Shannon's Account of Beatrice.
53:03 A Storm Comes to Rokkenjima Island ⛈
53:23 Where is Maria's Rose from The Rose Garden ?🌹
56:00 Mom Rosa slaps her daughter Maria. 58:18 KO'd Maria.
_The Roulette of Fate_
1:01:44 ("The Die is Cast.")
1:02:37 Where is Maria? 1:04:09 Apology.
1:04:53 Kinzo will leave his study if Beatrice appears.
1:06:42 Did Beatrice give Maria an Umbrella? ☔
1:07:27 The Letter From Kinzo? 💌 From Beatrice?
1:08:23 The Beatrice Letter 💌 explaining her contractual terms/clauses.
1:11:07 The Ushiromiya Children agree not to fight over money like The Ushiromiya Adults do.
*Who is Beatrice?*
1:11:29 Who gave Maria the Beatrice Letter? Is Beatrice one of the 18 People on The Island? Is Beatrice a 19th Person?
1:12:58 _A Devil's Proof_
*The Mystery Begins*
1:14:40 Rudolph Ushiromiya, Battler's Dad, has become frail and weak.
1:16:22 The Gold! A Gold Inget with The Ushiromiya Family Crest is Found!
1:20:05 George proposes to Shannon 💍❤
1:21:15
1:22:11
*The Tragedy on Rokkenjima Island's Storeroom, October 5th, 1986*
1:23:44 Morning Chores.
1:24:55 Bloody Handprints 🩸 and 5 People are Missing!
1:26:38 Maria gets lonely. WAKE UP!
1:27:19 Natsuhi's Moment.
1:31:32 DONT COME ANY CLOSER! 1:31:59 AAAAAAAAAA
- Rudolph - Rosa - Kyrie - Gohda - Krauss. Brutally Murdered! Laying Dead
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1:33:20 Shannon was murdered too, 6 People Murdered. 💀
1:34:45 The Storehouse is Locked to prevent any crime scene tampering 🔒
*Investigating The Murder of The 6 People*
1:36:00
1:37:01 Maria asks about the murder.
1:38:24 Breakfast Break to calm down.
1:38:57 _Who Did It? Who Is The Murderer of Rokkenjima Island?_
Suspects
- The Servants 1:41:13 The Servants had nothing to gain
- Eva Ushiromiya
1:42:15 Creepy Maria, The 7th Magic Circle of The Sun, to borrow the power of The Sun.
1:44:17 Who is The Culprit?
*Dealing With The Murder Situation*
1:44:47
1:45:44 About Beatrice. She Exists. She has no form. She has no body. She takes the form of Golden Butterflies. Golden butterflies hurt people.
1:47:19 Battler - Beatrice doesn't exist. Mis-matched Wavelength.
1:48:53 Battler - Magic Does Not Exist.
1:49:43 Battler - Maria is a kid with a lack of life experience.
1:50:44 What does The Culprit Want?
1:52:52 Eva planted a receipt to throw suspicion on Natsuhi.
1:56:36 When was the Time of Death?
1:57:20 NATSUHI PULLS OUT HER GUN!
1:58:33 Battler's Retort!
*More Suspense!*
2:02:22 Eva and Hideyoshi's Moment Together.
2:04:37
2:05:08 Another Envelope!
2:06:40 Another Magic Circle, with a different shape!
2:07:24 EVA IS DEAD! HIDEYOSHI IS DEAD!
2:09:20 BATTLER VOWS TO EXPOSE THE KILLER TONIGHT!
2:10:05 A Bad Smell.
*Analyzing The Eva and Hideyoshi Corpses*
2:10:45 What does it mean? How was this possible?
2:12:21 Blame it on Beatrice?
2:13:04 The First Magic Circle of The Moon
*The Boiler Room*
2:15:12 Kanon. 2:19:12 Dies.
2:22:33 Who is The Killer?
*Trying To Survive*
2:25:41 Survive Until Tomorrow. 2:27:07 Stay in The Study to Survive.
2:27:55 Inside The Study.
2:29:16 Who is Beatrice to Kinzo Ushiromiya? Kinzo loved Beatrice.
2:32:47 Solving The Epitath.
2:33:32 A New Letter Appears out of nowhere! 2:34:00 Abandon Hope.
2:35:51 Protecting Each Other.
*Find Maria*
2:37:37 Discord.
2:38:25 A Phone Call. Maria Singing in the distance.
2:40:29 What is all this, Maria?!
2:42:20 Natsuhi's Gunshot.
2:44:54 The Golden Land.
2:51:51 Learn The Rules, Find The Win Conditions. Win The Game.
Thanks alot for these timestamps 🤝
@@jayveeruzforce2322 Hey, thank you 🤝🏻
...I just have to...This is not in any way a dramatic retelling. It is a CLINICAL retelling meaning an analytical deep dive devoid of the stories dramatic features. There now I feel better.
Clare, I really love the video and i would love to see the part 2
I love this video!! And I really want to see the next part. During these days when I'm questioning my existence. I'm glad to find someone making a really in-depth video of this. I hope to see the second part. And I wish if you're also struggling with the same, everything hopefully will get better
I’m an hour away of finishing the question arcs. Looks like this is the perfect moment to refresh my memory and look at things differently
this is the best umineko explained vid that exists on youtube you did an amazing job!! i love listening to videos as I draw and this vid is so informative!! as someone who has only read the manga (oops) its nice to listen to a recap vid like this of the VN
As somebody that loves umineko to death, and has been thinking of a reread but don’t have the time. This is a godsend, Thankyou so much.
Incredible effort making this.
I fear this is an ambitious project that may span several years without seeing an end, but either way truly respect the commitment to such a great story.
I need you to come back with the next part please 😭 ♥️♥️♥️
This was fire as hell!! I love how every story bit was kept in the context of this episode and there wasn't any foreshadowing to the other ones. Plus, the voice actors killed it and your narrating was super engaging. We need episode 2!! Keep up the great work!!!
I could not imagine the sheer amount of work that must have gone into this; THIS IS INCREDIBLE! I tried to make a full fledged umi fandub and it was nigh impossible. Thank you wow. I wish I had something like this when I was reading umi!
If you ever need some voices or anythin’, I’m your gal!
This is hilarious because I am currently making plans to do exactly that, I'm only held back by lack of voices. call it foolish, but I've written off those who tried before me as the failings of lesser men and I am optimistic that I can dub at least the first episode in its entirety.
@@inaminayo5327 super curious,its been a year, did you get anywhere with this?
@@Miffnessunfortunately I still lack voice actors, apart from myself. I still want to do this but it’s looking more and more like I’m going to have to find freelancers to finish this and that’s just not financially feasible for me right now.
Feel free to spread the word, if any volunteers are interested in helping out.
Finally finished watching this, and it was a great explanation of the 1st arc. Everything the anime didn't cover is here, so the story is starting to make more sense.
Wondering how much Umineko's going to relate with Higurashi, which I've already watched all of, and read most of the manga of the main 8 arcs.
Great job, and I'm excited for part 2!
Does this anime have featherine in it or which one does
@@allthingsnba3710 Higurashi Gou and Sotsu have Eua, who looks like Featherine, but "isn't"
Umineko's anime stops right before introducing characters like Featherine and Erika
Didn't the anime sum (rush) this whole arc in like...1 or 3 episodes?!
This is proof that they could have unraveled their own mess in 3 hours worth.
Given one episode is 30 minutes they could easily have made 6 episodes worth of adaptation, and ending the season with 6 more maybe covering half of the second arc and leave an exciting cliffhanger there.
Or just a 6 episode OVA teasing the story by just showing the 1st arc.
@@filypa101 would definitely be hyped for an Umineko anime reboot. Especially if they followed your advice.
@@filypa101 telling a story and showing a story arn't the same thing. They can't put all this dense information into a visual medium without taking way more time. Anyone with even the smallest amount of experience with a visual medium knows you have no clue what you're talking about.
A 3 HOUR VIDEO????? OF UMINEKO????? TODAY I´M EATING GOOD
Maria being violently punished for what I honestly think is a vocal stim really upsets me. It’s likely a sign of neurodivergence and her echoing what people say to her is also something called echolalia. These signs are also present in children with autism. Imagine watching a mother beat her autistic nine year old daughter for a sound she makes to soothe and regulate herself. Sickening. And everyone just… brushes it off.
Rosa overall is not a bad person
Looking back on it, it's amazing how everything you needed to make a good guess as to who the culprit is, as well as their motive, is right there in the first episode.
I REALLY wish you continued with this series. You did it so well. I would have loved to see you bring it the rest of the way. You definitely have a new subsscriber in hopes. I know its a lot of work for potentially low payoff. but if it got 33k views on a under 700 sub channel. You did something right.
We can only hope
Hi there, thank you for subscribing! I probably will not continue this series but I do have other long form youtube videos planned. I've been busy with other projects for a little while now.
@@clairelynnd I do hope you reconsider coming back to it at some point. There is no other video like this about Umineko. Obviously others have done whatever retrospectives but this was different. This scratches an itch that I think more then just me liked having itched.
It could become an achieving series if it was made to conclusion is all. Especially on watch time. I was there beginning to end and immediately went looking to see if you had done more. That's a hard thing to achieve on this platform to get anyone to do that. Like literally anyone. Imagine completing it and then having a playlist. It could go nuclear huge. When they cry is a very salt OR pepper thing on TH-cam. There isn't a lot of quality content that goes in on it like you did there. Maybe there is on like Higurashi. But not on Umineko at all.
It serves and taps into a very underserviced interest here on the platform and just from a growth standpoint and a bit of a begging standpoint I wouldn't technically be doing my job as a QA staffer without suggesting it is all XD. Have a good day!
@@clairelynnd This makes me so sad that there won't be more of this series! Just finding this video now and I would love to see it continue.
Criminally underrated channel. Looking forward for future episodes. Keep it up man, this is pure gold
Love the video. I like what u chose to include and to exclude and explain the reasons in the video
Also super funny humor with your personal jabs on a lot of characters
Thank you for taking the time to make this! I appreciate your work!
this is the best movie ive seen in years! looking forward to more george dunks in the future
Such a fun recap. Thank you. This must have taken ages to make.
I have tried reading umineko so many times and dropped off, thank you for making this
It takes me so long to finish each chapter that this video is great to refresh myself before I start the next one
Hi hello are you still there? Is there any hope for this series to continue?
By far the most well put together summary of a game I’ll never have time for but reallly wanna learn about thanks so much for doing this
As a relative newcomer to When They Cry, it fills me with joy to still see new WTC content whether it be memes or lets plays so many years after they ended. I’m anxiously awaiting for more of Ciconia to drop so I can start reading it.
I just finished watching the video and omg I can’t wait for the next part!!!❤ I don’t think I’ll ever play this game but I loved how you made this video, now I want to know what happens next and I can’t wait!! I’m full of questions!!
This is so well done! I adore Umineko and it makes me happy to get videos such as this that help give it more love and attention! And yes I agree that Kanon is best boy!
To be honest even though it may seem extremely disturbing to many, I justify Rosa most of the time. I mean she didn't even had a childhood that most kids have.... She was always bullied by ALL of her siblings... Verbally by Eva, physically by Krauss and Rudolf flirted with her friends and they were leaving her to flirt back with him... Her husband stole her money, left her with debts and a problematic child (and I am not saying that in a bad way of course) and disappeared.... her daughter was calling her ''Black witch''.... she had the guilt of killing Kuwadorian Beatrice just because she just wanted to show her the outside world.... In the end in my opinion Rosa is just a bullied victim who was weak to break the chain of abuse. A parent who doesn't know or haven't learned how to love by anyone....how can he or she show love to his/her child?? And maybe that's why she was spoiling her by buying her everything she wanted. She was trying to show Maria that she loved her on her own way. Everyone acts differently. Some are strong and overcome their problems and some others don't. I of course am not okay with Rosa hitting Maria but I can understand the reason she acts like that. She is also my favorite human character in Umineko.
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Just because we know what caused her to be an abuser doesn’t erase the abuse. Yes she has a tragic backstory, but that doesn’t mean she gets to just abuse and neglect her daughter. She is no longer a child she does know better. Maria is a child. She is vulnerable and needs to be helped and cared for. At the very least she could’ve sought out resources to learn how to be a good parent.
@@aequoreavicq Unfortunately Rosa stayed an immature child. She grew up in body but not in mind. Maybe that's why she didn't take her job seriously and her company had issues. She just needed her husband and maybe she would get the help she needed. I still have the same mindset as I always had about Rosa. Eva or Kyrie are not better. No matter what Rosa was doing to her daughter, she was the only one who kept her child alive till the end of episode 2 doing everything in her power to protect her. She never left her alone after the first murders. While Eva left George to wander around in a mansion full of dead people. So no, Rosa is not fitted to be a mother, but at least she tries in her own way to be one
I loved the video, it was a nice experience watching it live too! looking forward for the next videos
I've recently started getting into umineko and im still reading through the first episode: legend of the golden witch and im starting to get interested this video managed to compress hours and hours of one segment of umineko's story into a 2 hour video And Im all for it :D
Thank you for such an amazingly detailed video. I've only managed to get through the first arc in both manga and anime form and have not been able to make myself invested in the plot. Higurashi is one of my favorite pieces of fiction ever so I wanted to explore Umineko, but thus far it's been really challenging for me. I'll definitely watch more of your videos on it when they come out though, you have a very clear concise way of explaining things that makes it feel less daunting to explore. I unfortunately have zero time and bandwidth for reading the visual novel, so I appreciate the explanation of the important details the anime and manga left out. I hope learning more about the story through your explanations helps me get a deeper understanding and appreciation for this series!
i really like your humor and style. i hope there will be more in the future
Hope you continue this series!
the way u summarize is perfect pls make more videos bro !!!
where is the second episode :()
the tight dress shirt thing is a weird thing in a lot of anime lol
I absolutely love your commentary on this. Absolutely hilarious
Here’s the next part will come out soon
it wont they gave up on it.
@@ninjawork111 noo, when did they say that ):
@@localsassboi they didn't dawg but it's been two years, even a 3 hour yt don't take that long, their patreon is dead etc.
we need more of this.
i've already read it but like i need more anyways lmao.
Dude, I need more of this. Just episode 1?
Also was it remade? I do remember the art being... For lack of a better word... Shittier.
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There's 3 versions of the sprites: the pre-2010 originals, the Steam release, and the PS3 release sprites. All versions have the option to read with the original sprites, and there's free mods to read the Steam version with the PS3 sprites plus the voice acting that went along with that version.
ok im someone who is watching this bc its been almost half a year since i continued EP 5 (altho ive been spoiled years ago bc i read the manga when it was still releasing unlocalized translations) and ive actually been thinking of making smth like this for my friend who's stuck in ep 2 and need a way to summarize stuff bc a lot of umineko videos tend not to summarize the story in fear of ruining the experience (which is fair, but i feel bad for people who have a hard time getting back to it) so it's p cool to see somebody already doing it in the first place 😁
anyway... i do want to add on abt smth that i'll put under EP 8 spoilers at least
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6:46 it's heavily implied (or how i interpret it at least) that since this was written from Y*s*'s perspective, this was how she perceived Battler in her forgeries due to her last interaction before the 86 family conference (basically gender dysphoria go brr) ALSO im sorry umineko fandom im at work and cannot access the rot13 website so i cannot hide this unless i edit the comment 😭😭😭
I appreciate your labor of love so much 🥰💛
This is fantatic, I can not wait for the next one!
This was so good! I never plan on reading umineko because I don't have the time or patience for it but I'm willing to watch this. I see it's been 9 months, will you make another one?
Yes I will make another one! I've been very busy in irl but I plan to make one for all of the episodes
I dont think is that time consuming, but each their own I guess. If you manage to read a book here and there you can read this without problem.
please i need more please finish the series 😭😭😭
Can you share the 2 part to this series. I feel that you made it very digestible and entertaining. I myself can't get into this series due to neurodivergency
Thank you so much for this. I want to play episode 8 but needed a recap of 1-7.
It's a shame you seem to don''t make more videos like this or any videos at all, but I understand why. It must be a crazy load of work. I am glad you made this one. It was fun to watch. Thanks you.
Honestly if i was maria parent i cant say i wouldnt also want to beat her up
I’ve been planning to replay umineko but dreading getting into Legend again since ive read the manga and watched those anime episodes so it’s probably the freshest umineko episode in my mind so I really do appreciate this recap 😂
Phenomenal job, I loved reliving the first episode like this
I will wait no matter how long, I shall wait for you joe. See you next leap year.
Yooo this stuff is straight fire, i hope you would do more
Damn, haven't finished the video yet but this looks cool. I hope you do the same with the other Episodes.
I plan to do one for every episode!
God, the scene with Rose hitting Maria made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable. As someone who was abused, it hit too close to home. Even if Maria was being a brat about the rose, most of the argument wasn't even ABOUT the rose. It was about Rosa not liking that her daughter says "uu-uu" alot which I don't think Maria can even control but okay. And the fact that everyone just fucking left her with her physically abusive mother because they didn't want to get between a "parent and child argument"?? I fucking hated it.
Ik right? I'm kinda just watching this and don't know stuff about umineko but the way she absolutely freaks out about the vocal stim specifically feels really disturbing. And calls into memory how people very often treat autistic kids with vocal stims
is there ever goign to be episode 2 ?
Considering how absurdly long Umineko is probably not. It would take him a whole year to cover the 8 episodes.
Knowing rules X, Y, and Z makes this video play completely differently. If you want to solve Umineko, try and find the rules of the game, by which all the Question arcs abide
This is cool cuz I finished ep1 and then had to stop playing for a while, so this will allow me to go back and take some notes to maybe solve the mystery on my own!
YOU ARE SO MEAN TO ALL OF THE CHARACTERS!! lmao maybe I'm just salty cuz I love Hideyoshi and George
Edit: AND KYRIE WHAT I LOVE HER
I hope you are still making the next episode
i'm in love
“Has no friends because of her weird magick obsession?” Damn this Maria character sounds relatable.
Also, I liked to imagine that the title to this story, with “Umineko” instead of “Higurashi,” would mean something like “When the Sea-cats Cry,” since as far as I knew, neko always meant cat & umi meant sea/ocean… And that there would be some kind of kawaii underwater creature called a sea-cat (or I thought maybe they was what they called catfish or something), & that the same way in Higurashi, chapters or scary scenes are always punctuated with the cries of the evening cicadas, the scenes & chapters in Umineko would be punctuated with whatever noise the sea-cats make… Alternatively either some kind of horrible screeching that would be hilarious if it was used to try to set the atmosphere for a Higurashi-style game about mages, or else they’d just go “nyan, nyan” adorably like a neko, except kind of distorted like they’re underwater.
Also, I have to say, beginning & ending every sentence with “UwU” is a huge downgrade from the cutesy character being Rika saying “Meep!” & “Nipah,” or even Rena saying “Hauuu.” But it is still an improvement relative to Hanyuu saying “Hauhauhauhauhau” annoyingly, in a way no sentient being in the infinite cosmos would ever do.
Please put out part two, I am never going to play or read this game but I love hearing people talk about it.
The scene where Rosa hits Maria gives me a vivid flashback of how my parents (my mom especially) used to smack me in the face hard whenever I cried due to injury/something bad happened/something unfair happened.
They always yelled at me for crying and I needed to grow up. Even when I was only 6-10. I was the eldest sister, and I was forced to grow up faster.
I read umineko 10+ years ago and this is a great way to experience it again. You're also fckin hilarious omg
excited to see moreee!
I see your bits of foreshadowing in the beginning of this video. George has "never even held hands with a girl". Given the first chapter of Umineko, this takes on a different meaning.
absolutely love myself some uminekl content
Waiting for part 2 👀
Really enjoyed the recap man, will there be a part 2
Dislikes: forgetful people
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Can you please do Episode 2? I'm starting to enjoy your content.
Very good Video.
Battler is all horned up because of who wrote legend
Is this series going to continue?
It's 2 years old so no ig
Thanks for such a good Video!
I would absolutely love to see the other episodes done in this style! Do you have any plans to do so?
Would love more!
Dislikes: forgetful people
I'm sobbing NO
1:58:25 I see what you did there.
(You hear tape being torn off a roll.)
Cool video great job :)
Hi, can you upload the other episodes too?
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OMG I love this
Ah man No episode 2!!!
Please come back
WTF WAS THAT ENDING?? 😐
episode 2 when?
Can I watch this video if I don't want spoilers for the rest of the story? Meaning, does this spoil later episodes?
Yes! There are no spoilers for later episodes in this video.
tickle fight!!!!
I really like the video, but Why would you just stop audibly speaking the scenes aloud in the middle of the story? You acknowledged a lot of people just like to listen to videos like this in your video, then stopped.
It's a good start but this is far from complete. That more people don't point that out is probably a sign that not many people who commented actually took the time to watch the video. The presentation is wildly inconsistent too, sometimes you leave ten minute blocks of the game in unedited, sometimes it's voiced by your friends, sometimes you use text to speech. It couldn't hurt to be more conssitent. Good start, though maybe you shouldn't start something if you don't plan on finishing it (you clearly aren't motivated to do it so don't pretend pls lmao)
Monogatari is longer
God, i effing hate the uu-uu, ngl i'm with the lady there
A waste of time
This is hardly a game , it's a stupid streamline visual novel that can be summed up in 20 mins ... What's episode 1? Does 2 redo with same characters?
without love it cannot be seen