I work as a registered nurse on a surgical floor. This is what a delirium looks like from medication. Patients will suddenly have no idea where they are, what is happening, and they will get violent. It is more common than people think.
They will not take the other person away and put him in jail and have to go in front of a judge, unless the other person press charges against them if she didn't press charges they should have never took him they wouldn't have took him plain and simple, she had to say something she may not remember but she had to say something in order for them to take him away and put him in jail as simple as that 🤔
@@71717did you watch this all the way through because they quite literally explained why he was taken in. Furthermore do you know how our justice system works? Being arrested and actually being convicted are two separate parts of the system and just because you were arrested does not mean you are guilty. That is up to the judge to decide. In a domestic situation most states require separation for the night (please look up Gabby Petito story for further reasons as to why) and in this instance they both admitted to drinking so they were going to simply let one of them drive away because that's a crime? Idk I'm just very confused as to what you're saying and I just think you're ignorant to the facts 🤷🏻♀️
@@71717oh also in most states domestic situation doesn't require the victims to press charges because they understand the victim may be too afraid to do so....
@@71717being arrested and being convicted of a crime are two separate parts of our legal system? Look up Gabby Petitos story for further understanding as to why they were separated for the night. You can never be to careful. That's also why she doesn't need to press charges, it's done automatically.
Kay and Tay are actually my nextdoor neighbors. From all my interactions I've had with them they are surprisingly VERY quiet, and keep to themselves. But they're super nice and sweet
I think it's quite nice of you to comment on knowing them and saying how nice and sweet they are as well as a quiet couple. Kindness goes a long way People are so quick to jump on a negative bandwagon the second they hear anything.... Honestly technology has been a blessing in many ways but it's also been so dangerous and harmful. Take care😊
@@Cherquez0661nowI think it’s great and everything. We are far too attached to live without it now. But I fear the bad is starting to outweigh the good sometimes. Like SM is fun and everything but people need to also live in their own lives and worry about themselves a bit more. Everyone is so focused on what others are doing and judging others. Like some need to take a look at themselves a bittttt more. It’s crazy how mean people can be on the internet. It’s just so sad to me. So much bullying nowadays. It’s so normalized and it’s not ok. It really sucks.
How can strangers comment on people's lives and make judgements whilst not knowing the person.i believe story spinners have less going on in their lives 😊😊😊
Their explanation is good enough for me. It was a bad night. No one is at fault. No one is perfect and I don’t watch their videos because I think they’re perfect. I watch them because they make me smile and I need to see things like cute babies that make me smile. I thank them for sharing their adorable baby and making a lot of people smile ❤
Stacey do you realise that by putting your children online.....that pedo files can take their pictures and alter them into pornographic images....all family bloggers are using their children for money and putting them at risk. What about that do you not understand?
This is exactly why I would never want to become an influencer. People dig deep and bring up old healed wounds and rip them open again. They see happy people and try to find something wrong.
Every time! It’s so frustrating. Cancel culture is so harmful 😭 how can people decide a person is terrible off of old tweets and things that have happened so long ago. The internet has ruined people’s critical thinking skills 😭
@@leigha3083literally. like the whole brooke situation. obviously we all said stupid shit when we were younger and all that but people grow and learn and everything. people can change
Ultimately a spiteful and vindictive person in their personal lives started this. It's not just about that either. It's also watching who you associate with.
55:36 - with the person who leaked it. My first thought was "parental figure who HATES she can stand on her own" and then i thought "if its more like a sibling/cousin, then its probably because she wouldn't just keep giving and giving and giving of her "easy peasy" earned money for what THEY wanted" (seen those entitled people both irl and online too much to count 😮💨)
I will NEVER take a sleep med again! I have suffered with insomnia for over 15yrs and ONCE my doctor gave me the same kind of medicine and I did the same thing with NO DRINKING! My husband said I got up I packed up my kids and drove to my mom's he was trying to stop me but i was adamit about leaving so i got there my mom said the kids didn't want to stay and i got mad and put them back in the car and drove back home, and when I parked i actually hit the pole in front on my house where I parked in my yard I just barely tapped it but I got the kids our went inside and went to sleep and I have NO memory of any of it and when I read about that medication the very first side effect was DRIVING without knowing 🙄 and it's doesn't even have to be mixed with alcohol to cause problems it's just that medication and does that to some people and not to others 😢😢it was scary
Yeah I recently had to deal with side effects from a sleep aid and i want even neckband one. I'm pregnant and needed something for car rides because I was getting bad motion sickness. The nurse said they wanted me to try this and it helps with nausea in some cases. I asked them why don't they just prescrib me a nausea med. I can't drive with a sleep need. Long story short I now have a new baby dr and not stressing out or having bad side effects from meds@nataliegonzales1724
I'm a Paramedic and I can absolutely picture the scene as it appeared to responding Officers. I am also a person who has had an adverse reaction to a medication that made me lose touch with reality and was one of the scariest things I have been through. I understand how terrifying it is to have your mind betray you, and how humiliating it feels to have a mental health emergency even knowing that it was caused by something a doctor gave you. You are so brave and my prayer for you both is that you come out of this feeling peace and comfort in the knowledge that you are a wonderful team and you have an amazing impact on the world.
I have never thought you two were bad. I love watching both of you and especially little Ellie. You both are loving parents and you can see how much love there is between you both.
My mom has lupus and was put on Cymbalta. She cooked in the middle of the night, drove to Walmart and bought a really expensive camera, Sleep walked, etc. When we figured it out we were all horrified she had drove (especially her since she had no memory). This medicine is so intense and I believe them 100%
I was put on Cymbalta in my early 40s- I lasted 2 weeks and knew something was very wrong!! My whole personality changed- felt like I was walking around invisible- literally thought no one could see me- told the Dr I was done with it and He actually tried to convince me that if I'd just stay on it for 6 to 8 weeks I would adjust... ya no.
I totally believe them and everyone else that is talking about the effects of cymbalta but I’m kind of blown away bc I have taken it for omg probably 10+ years and take 90mg. I have never experienced any of the things ppl are describing. I can’t imagine going through that.
As soon as Kay said Cymbalta my heart dropped. That medication is horrifying. My body lost all sense of temperature regulation so if I went outside on a summer day for even 10 minutes I would get heat stroke and nearly lose consciousness.
I've been on Cymbalta for YEARS and have never had any problems. I think people need to look at each individual as just that- an individual. I'm so sorry this happened to Kay. And I'm sorry for everyone who's had reactions to the medication but it does work for some people... Btw I take it for my clinical depression and my fibromyalgia.
I have watched a lot of Kay & Tay's content without following. Seeing them be vulnerable, honest, and loving each other through this mess is why I am now following them. I am so sorry people are putting you through hell, but I have a lot of respect for how you are handling this.
I can't believe the police left Kay alone like that. They need more training in medical emergencies. In the state she was in she absolutely could have hurt herself or others. Leaving her unsupervised for the rest of the night was SO dangerous.
@cherylpelletier3165 Exactly! All the way around does not make sense. Just because you call the police because of an issue with a partner, they do not show up and no matter the issue or circumstances have to take one to jail and definitely with no evidence of a domestic issue. They would have to come up with some random charge with zero evidence to support the charges and " my husband is saying I'm not acting right and I'm not sure why but he won't give me my keys so that I can go celebrate my bday by myself! Is not a law that he broke. Then they say that they just need to separate for the night and even though she's the one going thru some kind of medical issue and it is causing her to act out irrationally and have no memory the events that took place that night....but the cops thought the best course of action was to leave her there at home...Alone...while having some kind of very dangerous reaction to the meds she took. And they didn't think that any of this was significant or required a trip to the hospital and she didn't want to go get checked out either from what I gather (probably because it would prove something different) So instead of taking her to the hospital to get help, they choose to falsely charge him with DV and take him to jail while leaving her alone. Come on People!! How could anyone hear these two explain things and not realize that it's all bs
@PettyDrangonfly At the time of the incident, Kay did not know that it was a reaction to her new medication, this was not found out until later at her follow up Dr's appointment! Also, Kay had told 911 and the officers that Tay was holding her on the bed and not allowing her to leave, that is an illegal offence known as Forcible Confinement, also because they are married, like they stated, it is considered a DV, because a 911 call was made, even though there seemed to be no assault, they will not leave both parties together, as Kay stated, she was also upset that they had left her alone in the state she was in, the police screwed up! Paramedics should have been called for Kay, if Kay had known about the med interaction with the alcohol at the time she would have explained that, but that wasn't the situation unfortunately! Just because things didn't happen the way you think they should have doesn't mean they didn't happen that way! If you're so inclined to be nasty to these people, why are you even watching their channel? Go find some happiness somewhere and let them live their life! I think you need a hug!
The most accurate comment on this feed. I am so happy to read someone else thinks along a similar thread as myself. Far too many support this influencer trend like they are best friends with people whom the majority do not know.
It’s almost sad how angry people are even after they explained it thoroughly. Hes clearly innocent of all wrong doing since judge dismissed it entirely and it will not ever even effect a background check. Some states just are sloppy with how they allow info on innocent or people not ever formerly charged. Poor Kay and Tay. People have way to much time on hands
@@NurseTruther89I feel so bad for them that they have to pay to right the police and courts wrong. It doesn’t make any sense that you should have to pay when found innocent to get rid of the records. America is so weird with the court system and all of that stuff, I don’t get it man 😂. If your poor in America it seems to me like everything is out to get you, like there is a pay wall on everything and if you can’t afford it it’s gonna be like playing dark souls on max diff
As someone who has worked in law enforcement for years, I 1000% BELIEVE Kay and Tay. Police have certain “criteria and regimens” they have to abide by. A general way to handle DV situations. They handled this as a DV situation. IT WASNT and that’s exactly why IT WAS DISMISSED!
But why didn't the police call for an EMT to look at Kay and give her clearance? She claimed she was a medical emergency, for the responding officers to NOT call for medical backup is negligent
@@DeannaMarinabut Tay did... also she said she takes the medication like normal and drinks no more than usual, so why did she have a psychosis this time??? Also the cops gonna leave her alone and gonna possibly drive after they leave? How did they not see that she wasn't in her right mind?
@@84mobstarShe drank no more then usual for a gaming night then took her meds with the wine in her system for the 1st time while on the new med. She didn't know not to mix liquor with this particular medicine. She had only been taking the medication for under a week by the time this episode happened.
@@84mobstar, she didn't drink every night. That was the first time while taking Cymbalta. I took that medicine for several years and had a similar experience.
@@nicolewade160I'm glad someone said it because I felt that whilst watching this too. Felt so uncomfortable - I wouldn't have continued to sit there if I was Kay or Tay personally. 😔 It's a very personal and raw topic that clearly they didn't want made public and torn apart by people. It deserved some compassion and understanding.
Kay and Tay are one of my favorite couples/parents 🥰 I love the wholesomeness 🫶🏽 Keep loving one another. Remember, every brick haters throw keep them... those brick help build your castle!!!
Thank you so much for sharing your story!!! My mom is on Cymbalta and we are on vacation right now and the doctor told her a drink would be fine but after I saw this we are so thankful we were informed!
It's really depended on how your body handles it. How much in 1ndrink. How long in between andnhow fast but its really not a good idea tp test even if given the go ahead
I called and reported my kids missing while taking a med. They was in school but in my mind they was missing and I was frantically searching for them. Meds can do crazy things to you!
Which is why they should've called 911 to have EMTs come out and assess her. She was having a medical situation. That's if what they're saying really happened, in the first place. I don't believe them for a second. They kept changing so many things.
This whole story is BS. They "just needed to separate them", "if he did anything she wouldn't have been able to bail him out" well that's easy to confirm, all we need to do is look at his charges. That's what he was ARRESTED for. As for her, they don't send police & no EMTs for a call involving someone having a manic episode. Read the police report, she was "in fear for her life". This is damage control & none of it even makes sense.
I suffered audio and visual hallucinations during a psychological break that lasted about 2 years. I can not be a reliable witness for anything that happened outside of those hallucinations and i wasnt even on meds at the time or drunk. But she is the one giving us a detailed account of what happened that night ... the night she claims she was hallucinating, on meds and she was drunk? 😒 please tell me we are smarter than this. They never address why he was taken to jail and she wasnt taken to the emergency room when authorities showed up ... but we can deduce that there was not a medical emergency like she is claiming or they would have taken her and not him. I dont know anything about these two other than what they are saying here ... and it is clear they are not being honest as there are too many glaring inconsistencies.
@@Diamondz572 oh snap! I am with you on this. They have not cleared anything up and just deflected the blame onto their audience for finding out about the incident.
This is the sweetest couple don’t be embarrassed about life hitting you it hits everybody and you are both human! Continue your life and enjoy your babies
Matt and abby actually handled this amazing. They get so much hate especially on this podcast, but i think they asked the right questions. I think they handled this very well by not just letting them talk and asking not so easy questions.
I’m not the biggest fans of Matt and Abby but I agree. They didn’t just let things slide when it didn’t make sense. They asked all the good questions. They did great.
They did really great. Sometimes it's easy to forget how young both couples are. Thank goodness the internet wasn't around when I was in my early 20's.
I've seen shorts that are very hateful towards Matt. Unfortunately I didn't look at who put it out. The Dad Podcast released the arrest record, mug shot of Taylor on You Tube.
Matt and Abbey, you were the perfect host for this type of tell-all. You guys get so much hate online about your relationship while you only post wholesome content, and Kay and Tay are the same! Glad this was cleared up and I really enjoy both your families’ content. Keep it up ♥️
Really? Hopefully you don't have a profession where tone of voice and body language are pertinent... How do you not see Abby's judgemental eyes, hear her judgement in her voice fluctuation, or see the hostility in her body language? Really?!?!?
@@brooklin_bernek not all doctors specify and as you can see from these comments, it’s different for everyone. Some people are on one medication and some are on a cocktail. Don’t be ignorant, as if everyone in the world on medication won’t drink. I’ve personally had some medication cause issues with drinking and some haven’t.
100% I'm on so many medications that I am SO cautious about drinking on them. Even though I got the ok from my doctors I waited for months because I was too afraid of something happening.
Omg, I took that once because my Fibromyalgia was ruining me. The Dr gave it to me like it was candy. I took one pill and was sick for 5 days. Gave me horrible anxiety, it was awful. I went online and saw how horrible the withdrawals of it are. It's similar to heroine. I went back to the Dr and told her how dangerous that drug was and how she needs to be cautious handing it out to her patients. She only said "It helps a lot of people. It just didn't work for you". I never went back to her.
i think no matter what we as an audience think happened, if they’re saying this is what happened then it’s not up to us to become detectives and analyze what did or didn’t happened. We all were not there, none of us can TRULY know who is or isn’t lying.
Well said! Thats why when a certain channel bashes all these families and somehow has paper work on them, even though he claims he watches video for the first time when he is live. How could he have documents on some of these , as proof, if he didnt know what the video was about yet?
OMG, I had no idea that people were hating on you two! You two are the cutest and sweetest couple!! Hate is the furthest thing from my mind when I think of the two of you. I can fully understand the confusion of a medical situation like this. You have said your peace/piece about it, and I wouldn't give it anymore oxygen. No need to. Keep doing you! You are a great little family.
Same here. That also show we are not haters nor follows haters or begin it. I don't understand haters. I do understand I'm not one and never be one period... sending prayers to them to protect them from negative and hate. Sending love and prayers ❤.
I didn’t know about this, but thank you for sharing this story!! It shows people that “influencers” are literally regular people. I think some folks need that reminder!! Love Kay and Tay!! Thank you for sharing your life with us, but also…you owe us nothing!
What makes me the most sad by this situation is how easily it could’ve been avoided had Kay been given proper education for her new med from her MD or pharmacist. MD’s are not often afforded the time to go over this during appointments &/or may not be able to speak to all of the med info a patient needs to know. Most patients deny their right to a consultation with a pharmacist, but I hope this situation can highlight the utility of a pharmacist & encourage people to take the time to learn about their meds
@@larissa_7729 My medication sometimes has a sticker with a no drinking symbol on it, but sometimes the sticker isn't there even when it should be. Pharmacy errors cause a huge number of deaths and injuries every single year.
Every time I start a new medication my pharmacy makes me talk to the pharmacist before I can have the medication and then I'm asked about every three months by the pharmacist if I'm having any problems or questions about the medication, even if I've been taking it for years. All pharmacies should do this.
I am so proud of these two. I was wondering why things had slowed down with them, and now I understand and I am so supporting their way of handling this. I'm sorry people have to be so nasty because of jealousy or whatever, or simply they're drama-addicts and have nothing better to do with their lives. I'm so sorry this all happened to both of you and I'm glad that Unplanned Podcast helped you to spread your story. You both are strong people and truly love each other and I'm so proud of you both. Stay strong like you are and I'll support you all the way!
I feel so much for Kay, of course Tay too but it broke my heart when she said “I know what a bad relationship is, it’s insulting that they’d think I’d do that again”, it hit me so hard. That hit such a sore spot for her and I know it. I never ever for a second questioned them, I knew it was all a huge misunderstanding. The way they love each other is so real and you can feel it through the screen. This was an amazing interview ❤
The sad part is that many people that have been in abusive relationships think they will never be in that situation again, yet they slowly figure out that one of their next partners is starting to do similar things. Abusive people know how to love bomb a new partner, hide that side for a while, and then slowly tap into some of the past damage that happened in their partner's past relationship. I 100% believe their story, but I am also sad for victims that one day figure out that they were tricked into it again and feel stupid. I was with my ex for 3 years before he put his hands on me. Before that day, I never once felt unsafe with him. I still feel stupid when I think back to the fact that I stayed after that time, but when things turn 180° during a stressful time, you think it is just a one off situation. The only thing that helps me to stop beating myself up is the fact that his brother told his wife that he was struggling watching his brother change into someone he doesn't recognize and doesn't like. That was said before he knew that his brother had changed enough to become physical with me. So if someone that knew him for 25 years was surprised at the change, then I had no chance to catch it earlier. 😢
Thank you Kay & Tay for speaking up. This interview was so respectful and a great way to say the story. Their transparency was so refreshing and I wish for this to be done with. Sending love, peace and support!
Matt and Abby. You both did such a beautiful job, allowing them to share and talk. And being such great listeners. Asking great questions. And being there for them. You two have so much love and kindness. Kay and Tay, what a precious marriage you have.
These are some of the most obviously sweetest people. When it come to things like this, people should mind their own business. They've shown through their videos the kind of people they are!❤
My pastor preached a good message here a few months ago about people believing what they want basically and he said something that has stuck with me. He said “Those who love you will believe you, and those who don’t, don’t matter.” (Their opinion or what they believe don’t matter). 😊
I truly didn’t believe this until she mentioned the name of the medicine. I literally gasped when she said it. Cymbalta made me lose my mind and I ended up in the ER and admitted to the hospital for 2 days.
@@lucrezialazzari1998Nah...it's because she told them he was physical with her. Even if he didn't "connect the dots" to the medication...he said he knew she wasn't herself. Yet he never expressed that something might be wrong...instead he decides arrest for DV is better. Makes no sense.
Cymbalta is an evil drug. I had asked if you could drink, in moderation, while taking this medication and was told sure there were no listed adverse effects. I had a similar experience and was also told that I looked like I was on hard-core drugs by another individual the next day. This scenario has happened to so many individuals, and because of that this drug is now red-labeled for drug/alcohol interaction which acts the same as if you were given GHB.
I’m so sorry this happened to you guys! I really admire how you’ve handled this situation and your honesty throughout. I’m sorry this happened you and that people have been hurting you. Thanks for being so vulnerable about this hard situation!
I'm a criminal defense attorney. Here are some scattered thoughts. Admittedly, I don't think I'm in the same state as them. But many states have mandatory domestic violence arrest policies, if police have "probable cause" to believe that a domestic violence offense has occurred an arrest must follow. The issue that ends up arising with these mandatory arrest policies is that police essentially don't use any common sense, because they figure "we'll just charge the guy, book him, and the DA will dismiss it if it turns out it wasn't DV." But it can be a very traumatic experience for people, especially people with no crim history. Some of the things they said are not correct. Any member of the public can bail someone out, that includes alleged victims of DV. Also, he was not "found innocent." The courts are not in the business of determining innocence. He was charged with misdemeanor harassment. What probably happened from the cops perspective is this. The cops separated him. They asked her what happened. "I was trying to leave, he was pulling me away from the door, he was holding me down, he was preventing me from leaving." The cops asked him what was going on. "She was trying to leave." Cops ask "did you restrain her?" Taylor: "Yeah, I held her back because she was trying to leave, and she's drunk. etc." Now you have a victim allegation of physical use of force, a defendant admission. Both probably also admitted to being intimate partners. To a cop, that's probable cause, at least to charge a misdemeanor, and "let the courts figure it out" is something you'll hear often from cops on BWC. The two ladies that Kay spoke with were probably victim advocates. They're mandatory staff in most jurisdictions. Maybe also an investigator. DAs do speak with victims, but usually not at a court hearing because they're too busy. The judge did not make a ruling, the judge in a criminal case does not make findings of fact. The judge likely dismissed it because the prosecutor made an oral/written motion to dismiss. A judge must grant that motion. If the prosecution doesn't proceed on a case, the judge cannot (obviously) prosecute the case for them. The prosecution is the one which likely evaluated the evidence and decided they couldn't proceed on the case. And their inability to proceed on the case is the operative element, they could absolutely proceed on the case without Kay's consent. Personally, I think misdemeanor DV is overcharged. And I've talked to even DAs who agree, ultimately it comes down to the fact that error is inevitable, you want to err on the side of overcharging rather than undercharging, because DV can be serious. And it causes a weird courtroom dynamic...most DV cases are quite weak, DAs win substantially less than 50% of even the DV cases they elect to take to trial, it's partially because the context in which DV happens is hard to prove, and part because many of the cases simply don't have aggravated facts. Any defense attorney who has handled enough DV cases can tell you dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of ridiculous charging stories. Finally, the casual behavior of the cops is something I want to address. Those of us who interface with this on a daily basis have a callousness to the system as a whole. Cops arrest people on a daily basis, I then talk to people in jail on a daily basis. It is easy to forget the impact that this type of situation can have on normal people who don't regularly interact with the criminal justice system. To us, it's just a Tuesday, and this is just another dumb borderline PC harassment DV case that, in the scale of what we deal with, is a relatively small and trivial case. To the people involved, this will haunt them for the rest of their lives. I don't interpret the cops acting casually as them thinking he's innocent, more of them thinking that the conduct they're responding to is low-level. But it's always a good reminder, a certain callousness is necessary to stay in the profession, but these things really change people's lives.
If they really told the cops at time she was having any kind of medical mental issue as they say he did … aren’t they obligated to call medical and not leave her alone??? Why would he and the cops be ok leaving her by herself ?! Obviously she still had access to vehicles ect… you’d think part of story would be him saying I was insistent they get medical there or call a friend or family to be there with her before they so calmly took him off to jail ect… this is why I don’t believe the story and think it’s something made up after!! I believe what you’re saying I just don’t believe them… he said he was happy cops were coming but then was just happy to go off to jail and leave her alone??? I have feeling it was drunk fight when they came she accused him of something… I’m assuming it was true for her to then when she sobered up came up with this story like most dv victims do! I’d like to see police report and see if either said anything about him being worried about her mental state cause if they did… and anything happened to her after they’d kinda be liable wouldn’t they?
@@GavynGageHudsynGentry they are certainly not obligated haha, at least not in my state. Cops have the discretion to call medics, they usually will if there are visual injuries, or symptoms like issues breathing, drug overdose. Every resource is finite, including medical. If you have a woman who says she's fine, and a man says he thinks she's had some bad wine because she's not thinking straight, I don't think any cops would call medical. Medical is stretched thin as it is, if that is all you have then it makes no sense. This is more common than you think. A lot of people with mental health issues call the cops and say "I'm having a mental health episode." Most of these calls don't end up with medical being called, there simply is not enough resources to do that. And that also belies the fact that, the cops are not your Mental health hotline. They are there to solve crimes. Which is also why I don't think the cops would ever be found liable, practically speaking. They get dozens of calls a week from people who try to use them as a MH hotline, and the most common outcome that I see is that they run the names and pick the callers up on warrants (this is very job specific, obviously). Which sort of ties into point 2, cops are not babysitters. Once they have made the decision to charge Tay, and they have removed him from the scene, their job there is done. Usually they give the victim a card with victim resources to use. They do not have the time to babysit her until she is sober again. If, say, she was at a bar, the cops would have her call a sober 3rd party to pick her up, but here she was already home. If she drives, they will pull her over and charge her with DUI. There are simply not enough cops to utilize their time that way. She is an adult, and is allowed to call any friends or family that she wants to come and be with her. I don't think Taylor was ok with leaving her by herself, when you are arrested you don't have any say in the matter. I agree that he tried to play up too much the calmness of his arrest experience, arrest is government force, it is a constitutional seizure, but I don't think his leaving her alone was indicative of anything because he didn't do it voluntarily. I mean, you're certainly able to come to any conclusions about what really happened that night that you'd like to. Obviously, I wasn't there, so I can't say. I think, in most misdo DV cases, we don't and will never know what happened. Sometimes, I think my clients must have done something, because the evidence really doesn't align with nothing happening, but even still I wasn't there, I don't know who started what, or who said what.
Very good explanation. Having had to deal with the system with a domestic matter, I totally agree with you , he was over charged but it was a reduction which also makes sense. When he was protecting his wife, this is unfortunate. He did not have a lawyer when he went to court it sounds like and that was why he was still charged with something.
Great explanation. Reminds me of Season 3 of the Serial podcast where they describe the justice system as a train ride where once you're on, it's difficult to get off. Luckily this was no big deal to them at the time but even needing to take a day or multiple days off of work to deal with this or get expensive legal advice on the expungement for example is out of reach for many or seriously sets them back from being able to take care of their family.
I would hope people do not want to just hurt you because you are on u-tube….. Taylor treats you like a queen, I love to hear him call you “Sweetie” and your excitement and innocence of the things he does to please you is so refreshing ! Love you both, God Bless your family❤
Yep! Husband was put on cymbalta for auto immune condition. No alcohol involved and no one else present but he put his fist through his computer monitor while weaning off of it. Said his emotions had never been that out of control. Brain zaps etc. truly awful side effects. Reddit has countless posts and stories about alcohol and no alcohol incidents w/this med. helps for some but was terrible for him.
yup! i was put on cymbalta for depression, which caused me to pass out. my boyfriend of the time heard me fall in the shower and i woke up like 10 seconds later disoriented as heck. most my body purple (as if i was cold) it was my body’s allergic reaction to this med. Cymbalta should not be prescribed tbh
Same. 10000% believe her. Lyrica FUCKSSS you up. My husband was on it. Imagine having 1 drink, then take the lyrica, suddenly you feel like you've had 3 drinks.
@@cierrakeska2241 , that is terrifying! Unfortunately it works wonders for me. I have had to cold turkey off it a few times. Twice for pregnancies, and I had all the distant, tunnel, fog, brain zaps for almost a year each time. But without it, I have such bad pain and depression, anxiety, tears, worthlessness, hopelessness. It does work for some people really well. I have tried so many depression medications in 15 years, and had terrifying side effects until finding Cymbalta (duloxetine). Everyone's brain chemistry is so different. It's amazing that poison for one person can be a godsend for another. I hope you're doing well today 🙏🏼💟🌷
Kay and Tay, I love you guys, and when I first saw the mugshot, I immediately went to see what you guys had to say about it. No matter what, I know people aren't perfect, and I support you! Love you!
I had no idea what was going on so I looked at the first few minutes of the vid. I absolutely couldn’t care less about what goes on in one’s private life. And I appreciate this podcast for hosting you guys to talk about this situation in a comfortable environment. I’ll have to watch more of their stuff!!
I have lupus and multiple autoimmune disorders. I can relate. I hate to see Kay so emotional about waiting for a diagnoses. I’ve been there. I started watching Kay and Tay because I love seeing babies and Ellie is adorable , they are such a cute couple. 😊 I hate that people are so cruel to try and destroy others lives. No one deserves to know personal details about you just because you’re on TH-cam or any other platforms. People who seek to destroy and not find out the truth aren’t worth a worry. I hope Kay and Tay will continue their fun content!😊
Idc what anyone else says about you two or your relationship, I'm super happy that you shared the truth. My son and I totally enjoy watching your videos, and we will continue. You and your shorts bring a light into my days. Ty for sharing such a big part of your lives with us
Thank you Kay and Tay for sharing the truth! I’ve seen the lies and I honestly thought “there is no way this is true!”. I knew there was a true story that people were missing and I’m sorry fans have taken advantage of your name. Matt and Abby, thank you for being such sweet friends and creating such a safe space and podcast for stories to be shared! You are so sweet and make a difference. Please keep on doing what you’re doing!!
I got goose bumps because it made me uncomfortable. Who says that about someone. I tried to protect them because of a vow? Not because of love or connection or because they are another human being. I believe them about cymbalta, that stuff is crazy, but this statement was really freaky and abnormal.
When I was on Cymbalta I was rushed to the hospital with Tachycardia (my sodium and calcium levels were extremely low), and my white blood cell count was super high. It was assumed that I was high on something and I was given a high dose of Ativan to bring my BP down. I have naturally low BP, so I ended up in the hospital for 5 nights, completely out of it from low BP, being given shots in my stomach to bring it back up. I was on an antibiotic IV drip the whole time. They brought in an Infectious Disease Specialist to try to find anything that could have caused the crazy high WBC count, and found nothing. I was sent home with no conclusions. I looked up the side effects of the medications that I was on and found out that Cymbalta can cause Hyponatremia and Hypocalcemia, which caused the Tachycardia. It can also cause IBS, which I was dealing with regularly until I stopped taking it. It worked great for the depression, unfortunately. I had to start again on the long list of anti-depressants to find what works for me. I honestly feel like that medication shouldn't be on the market anymore.
You guys did this video they explained it all.. this is a repeat video .. kay .. Taylor. You both have NOTHING to be ashamed of . You both moved forward and for some reason people can't handle that. Just know the past is the past. All we have is now. ♡
I knew there was more to the story, coming from someone that’s been in a DV relationship the way she allows herself to be so vulnerable around him and shows him her full raw emotions is not something most DV victims would do.
Untrue. As a DV victim myself, you cannot assume that a victims behavior around their abuser, when people are watching, is in fact their “normal” behavior. I was vulnerable and open around my abuser, I was completely brainwashed into thinking I was in a safe space.
@@liveandlove57sometimes in some cases tho, my mom is a DV victim herself and I saw everything but she never cried in front of her husband at the time up until they split. She wasn’t even venerable to me and I’m her oldest daughter.
@@Nevaeh_V04of course! I think the point is everyone is different and so is every situation. People can’t assume what is filmed is actually real though.
Cymbalta is terrifying. I was put on it as a teen and basically blacked out and was screaming, crying, taking swings at my parents while they were desperately trying to help me. I wanted to end my life right then and there. It was a MESS. I immediately stopped taking it that day and felt so much better.
The reactions I have had to medications are terrible. It’s so embarrassing and honestly now I don’t even risk trying new ones. They turned me from a loving wife and mother to a lunatic who would disappear in the middle of the night or threaten to harm myself. I do wish doctors were more transparent about side effects. Like Kay, AFTER my issues I found online support outlining the dangers of the medication I was on and the survival rates of coming off the medication. It should be spoken about more.
Same. I was on Cymbalta (Duloxetine). I just took myself off of it and I am still seeing myself come back everyday. 4 years of a mom, wife, and daughter walking around like a zombie. Like Kay I will never promote this medication to any friend or family. So many side affects to count, the withdrawal of coming off the medication, and the if on long enough needing to possibly learn a few things. Cymbalta was also masking other problems for me and causing me to feel migraine problems when I suffer from them. So, glad that Kay and Tay could tell their story. I hope all the best to them. 🙏❤
The meds cant be blamed for that situation. If she were hallucinating from meds and alcohol, 1. how does she know what happened? I suffered audio and visual hallucinations for about 2 yrs and that was not being on meds or drinking ... i can not be an accurate witness for ANYTHING that happened during that time. 2) when the authorities showed up, they took him to jail but left her? In the midst of hallucinations? Get tf outta here .... not buying it.
I’m loving how Abby is asking literally all the hard questions!! Abby is asking what we all wanted to know. I don’t think Abby was asking to hurt Tay. She was asking these questions so we can hear how Taylor was not in the wrong! You go Abby!!!
Some people love to assume the worst instead of approaching a situation with compassion. We never really know ANYTHING about what is going on in someone else's life. I don't really follow either of these couples but I am glad these seemingly sweet people got to share their story. Best wishes and prayers for all
I just think Kay and Tay are the best. I love watching their clips because they make me happy, and they give me hope that people can really love one another, and be courteous and thoughtful. Any negativity that comes there way is only a reflection of the person putting it out there, and it has nothing to do with them, whatsoever!!! I just want to say thank you for putting so much laughter, joy, and love into the world. It's not surprising that dark people will rise up against the light you guys shine!!! So don't take it to heart, don't let it hurt you or get under your skin, because you know who you are, you know your own goodness and kindness, the rest is all just background noise!!!!
I feel terrible they were basically pushed to talk about this due to all the hate! You owed us nothing Tay and Kay you are such a lovely family, have so much love for you both xxx
You know what? Being brought up at this time with so many followers. Your message to all ages can save sooo many young lives making sure NOT to mix alcohol with prescription drugs.
I was on Cymbalta once, I also had the feeling of walking around drunk. After only 4 days on Cymbalta, I ended up in the ER feeling like I was being poisoned. Thankfully the Dr. I saw said I could stop taking it right away.
What I’ve learned about gossip is it usually IS a lie. I question the people who gossip rather than the people who are being gossiped about. Sending Kay and Tay love and prayers! You guys are an amazing couple! ❤
My sis in law used to take Cymbalta. We went on a family vacay to Cali and we were all staying in a Airbnb. She drank and ended up going crazy! She was spewing hateful words to her own cousin and tried to fight her! We’re talking about a medical professional who was in her 40’s. I had known her since I was a baby and she never acted like that ever! So that medicine is scary!
It’s so sad to see how many people made up stories or jumped to conclusions with out knowing your side of the story I knew there had to be more to the story because I can always feel tay and kays love through the screen I hope that people learn from this and remember to not jump to conclusions and judge before knowing the whole story I love you guys and hope you guys get through this rough patch
Honestly it completely breaks my heart that Kay and Tay felt the need to explain anything at all. NO ONE OWES ANYONE an explanation. It's their life. They know what happened and that's all that matters. Stay strong Kay and Tay ❤❤❤❤
Well to be honest they have put their live out there , they get a lot of money everything they have is from the money they make that came from their social media accounts , so yes they put their self out there so they kinda can’t have their cake and eat it too! I think they are a great couple !
I'm so sorry that people are harassing Kay & Tay. People should mind their own business. If more people were like them, this world would be a much better place. They are real and so sincere.
I had been seeing comments about this and I didn’t believe that it was true. I know it does happen more than we know and my heart goes out to each of them who suffer through domestic violence. My favorite podcast! Matt and Abby, thank you for always staying true to who you are! You are a bright spot in everyone’s day!
I’m a little confused ONLY because if Kay and Tay needed to be separated and the issue was he wasn’t letting her leave, what kept her from leaving once the police left? Why would it be a good idea to leave her at home with the keys when there’s the possibility she could get behind the wheel and still end up getting hurt?
Because the police didn’t understand she was confused they aren’t medical professionals and don’t know Kay personally so it’s not like they could know for sure she was having a reaction to medication. I mean Kay and tay didn’t even know until a day or two later that’s what caused the crisis
@@erikajohnson9063wait but didn’t they say Tay told the officers she was out of it and was trying to leave. It doesn’t make sense. And she was cognitively out of it but was talking with the officer and her explanation to the officer made sense enough to book him? And from experience usually isn’t this false imprisonment not DV? I’m not an expert just my thoughts
Because why would she try to leave to “celebrate her birthday” after the cops took her husband away? She already said she was extremely distressed when they took him. There was no reason/drive for her to leave the house after that. Also, like they said in the video, they would not have had to book Tay at all if there was a third party available who Tay could have stayed with instead. In the state that it happened in, the law only requires mandatory separation. Since there was no one else Tay could immediately stay with for the next 24 hours, they legally had to take him to the jail in which case they had to book him per policy/the law
I am so sorry this happened to you guys. Kay and Tay are so adorable together and I support you both. Kay, please take care with meds and Tay, I am proud of you. You two are blessed to have one another. Much love to you both.
As someone who in the past has mixed alcohol with medications, I believe this 10000%. It’s so scary and although my reaction was different (due to the kind of meds I was on and I think personality ties into this) I see similarities. Confusion is a big side effect. When I first heard about this, I knew there was more to the story. I don’t believe Kay would stay with him after what she’s gone through.
This is 100% the same thing that happened to my wife. She had lupus and RA. The meds they prescribe for autoimmune diseases make a women a “ psycho bitch” as she describes it. She went from treating me the way a wife normally treats a husband she loves to treating my like I had totally lost the ability to be a good husband. It made zero sense and would be ten times worse when we would go out to dinner and she’d have a glass or two of wine. I’m glad they figured it out as we did. My wife stopped the meds and a week later she was back to her old self again. Now we treat it holistically. It’s working. I feel for these two.
@@jeffpickett9730 same. I suffer from RA and autoimmunity’s. Treating these problems are definitely tailor made. People don’t understand that your immune system runs your whole body and it can cause different problems for different people in different places so it’s like playing prescription bingo.
@@lesleyannthecarnivore I’ve heard that! Specifically from Mikayla Peterson, her all meat diet saved her life. It’s very difficult and doesn’t work for everyone but I’ve considered it.
@@jpgypsyxo honestly it really does work for everyone! We may not all look the same but our insides are ALL THE SAME! Please research it! I feel better in my 50s than I have all my life! It’s definitely worth trying for 30 days! Good luck….You got this!
Kay and Taylor thank you for sharing your story! Specially Kay with her auto immune disease! I am going to share this story with a beloved family member who basically went through the same thing. I’m hoping it gives them clarity to what has happened to them as well. Love watching your beloved video of your beautiful family and watching that beautiful baby grow 🥰 Thanks for making me smile!!
@@trjolly, I tried at least 10 different medications, with all sorts of side effects, non effects, terrible effects, before I found Cymbalta that works for me. But I know a lot of people that it's poison for them. And like paxil was poison for me, but works for my best friend. Gabapentin tore my mind, body and soul to shreds, but I have a friend who can't sleep, and has severe neck pain without out, after her had a job site accident. Every body is different. People need to stop creating drama for others where there isn't. Why? Why can't you listen to this and be proud that they've overcome this as a husband and wife, years ago, and came out the other side? I also just got a diagnosis that I've been begging for help for 25 years. It takes a long time to find the right treatment in our healthcare system, especially when nobody wants to listen. I had to break bones, dislocate joints, sprain ankles just get into bed, or while relaxing in my sleep to finally get to an orthopedic doctor, who recognized my hypermobility and recommended a rheumatologist to my doctor who would only recognized my problems as PTSD and Fibromyalgia. When I have had Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome my entire life. I'm 44 and finally getting help!
@@trjolly I am glad that your son can take this medication and drink on his medicine. You seem proud as you keep posting. But, I can tell you this medication is awful for others as I was on this medication and hated all of my side effects. I didn't drink on this medication as I take other medicine as well. But, what they described as being confused is a true thing as I seemed more confused than I have been in the 2 weeks I have been off that dang medication. I will never promote that medication. Please understand that not every medication works for everyone and be respectful that everyone's medical journey is different!
@@trjollyas far as YOU KNOW. I'd wager a guess that you definitely don't know the extent of the impact of that medication, because realistically your son may not even know the extent. Unsure why you're wearing him using this med with alcohol as a badge of honor.
Damn! You guys are awesome!❤ Kay, when you were talking about Cymbalta my heart dropped. I have dealt with depression for over 20 years and I'm grateful that I have found a regime that has worked for me but I struggled with depression and one medication after another for years and I had the same symptoms when I was on Cymbalta but the Drs refused to believe me, but this was like 20 years ago so hopefully the Drs are more aware now. Stay strong, both of you ❤
He truth is always best for sure. It’s nice to hear that and also see the whole fake sweet voice etc dropped. Just being real. Props to you both for being brave enough to speak on this
i feel so sorry for kay and tay for what people were saying, when it went viral everyone was hating without knowing what actually happened and the fact that they all were like “omg i can’t believe it, he’s such a bad person” and all that is so sad because they didn’t deserve that and i see how much it’s affected them, people just have to stop hating and start focusing on their lives and their problems instead of other’s.
I went through a similar situation. I kept trying to leave my house, and my husband of 13 years was like "something's not right, it's 4am" , And I was confused and disoriented. Come to find out I had had a seizure. I had two other seizures after that incident within 2 weeks apart. This sounds so much like me when I have seizures. And you stated that you took new medicine. One of the side effects of most medicines with alcohol is seizures.. so scary. I kept trying to leave too, and I even tried to fight my husband that night, with the other seizures, I tried to fight family members that were around me after I came out of the seizure. I was so disoriented.
its duscusting that all the hate and judgement had to push these guys to open up there PERSONAL lifes ON A SOCIAL PLATEFORM. 😢😢 .. how does anyone think that its there place to do that MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM SO MUCH 😢😢😢😢
Kay and Tay, thank you for taking the time to share your story. You don't owe any of us any explanations or anything but I want you to know how brave you both are (Matt and Abby you guys are really cool too). Unfortunately, there are some really malicious people out there who love to harm or hurt others and I am so sorry you had to go through this. Kay, I am so thankful you are off Cymbalta now and are doing much better overall. I had a horrible experience with a different anti-depressant (Wellbutrin) so I can understand side effects and how awful they can be. I am glad you both are sharing the truth and that you guys are doing much better overall. I wish you both the best. God bless you. 💜🙏
I've been saying this since this became a huge thing, you can't assume based off of something that happened once 5 years ago that you don't have the whole story and it's not your relationship to speak on. It's sad that people have caused them to have to relive this, thank you for sharing.
You guys are amazing. We're here for you. The bullies and haters are insecure and try to bring their negativity onto you. I'm sorry for them treating you this way. Shame on them.
I am certainly not perfect and no one in this world is. I will continue to follow this young couple they have proven to me that they're human and people should just breathe and relax and move forward
Hater’s will hate and drama queens will always cause drama This is so sad. Just jealousy Bless your hearts and your baby’s heart. She’s so cute and precious
I’m absolutely floored this past is being brought up when all they do is make cute family videos. I’m lost on why this is a thing??? They’re not horrible people and her openness with PP has been helpful. Thank you for being transparent and I’m sorry you have to hash through this again.
We're not all haters We just want some more information on things that have happened. To me they seem like a decent couple. But my concern is with the other daughter and how it affected her not being in the wedding.
The police let me drive completely drunk because I said “I wasn’t”. They are so poorly trained, not equipped for most of their encounters and they think every situation is a war situation! More EMT and medical need to be on scene!
A cop in my area just let a drunk driver go home the other day after he poured out the beer he "cracked open" on the way to the store according to him. I was so mad because they didn't do any sobriety tests no breathalyzer nothing, just a ticket and let him drive away. The amount of people that could have been injured or died. I wish they would have more training and be more strict on such dangerous situations.
@@kaylarayla_you realize not all cops are poorly trained and some have saved lives and protected us so please don’t have this mindset about all police as I have many family members who are cops and are GREAT people and everyone is different on the way they work or treat others I don’t wanna be rude I just hate when people think this about cops(:
I fell asleep at the wheel drunk after a concert and hit someone infront of me and cops ripped me out of the car and had me do the whole sobriety field test infront of an entire parking lot of concert goers and I failed miserably, but they let me go anyways because I promised I was “just tired” Still my fault and responsibility though. Can’t just blame someone else for your own decision
I work as a registered nurse on a surgical floor. This is what a delirium looks like from medication. Patients will suddenly have no idea where they are, what is happening, and they will get violent. It is more common than people think.
They will not take the other person away and put him in jail and have to go in front of a judge, unless the other person press charges against them if she didn't press charges they should have never took him they wouldn't have took him plain and simple, she had to say something she may not remember but she had to say something in order for them to take him away and put him in jail as simple as that 🤔
@@71717did you watch this all the way through because they quite literally explained why he was taken in. Furthermore do you know how our justice system works? Being arrested and actually being convicted are two separate parts of the system and just because you were arrested does not mean you are guilty. That is up to the judge to decide. In a domestic situation most states require separation for the night (please look up Gabby Petito story for further reasons as to why) and in this instance they both admitted to drinking so they were going to simply let one of them drive away because that's a crime? Idk I'm just very confused as to what you're saying and I just think you're ignorant to the facts 🤷🏻♀️
@@71717oh also in most states domestic situation doesn't require the victims to press charges because they understand the victim may be too afraid to do so....
@@71717being arrested and being convicted of a crime are two separate parts of our legal system? Look up Gabby Petitos story for further understanding as to why they were separated for the night. You can never be to careful. That's also why she doesn't need to press charges, it's done automatically.
Post op delirium is the WORST
Kay and Tay are actually my nextdoor neighbors. From all my interactions I've had with them they are surprisingly VERY quiet, and keep to themselves. But they're super nice and sweet
True they are the best
@@kroshka5174agree
I think it's quite nice of you to comment on knowing them and saying how nice and sweet they are as well as a quiet couple. Kindness goes a long way
People are so quick to jump on a negative bandwagon the second they hear anything....
Honestly technology has been a blessing in many ways but it's also been so dangerous and harmful.
Take care😊
@@Cherquez0661nowI think it’s great and everything. We are far too attached to live without it now. But I fear the bad is starting to outweigh the good sometimes. Like SM is fun and everything but people need to also live in their own lives and worry about themselves a bit more. Everyone is so focused on what others are doing and judging others. Like some need to take a look at themselves a bittttt more. It’s crazy how mean people can be on the internet. It’s just so sad to me. So much bullying nowadays. It’s so normalized and it’s not ok. It really sucks.
How can strangers comment on people's lives and make judgements whilst not knowing the person.i believe story spinners have less going on in their lives 😊😊😊
Their explanation is good enough for me. It was a bad night. No one is at fault. No one is perfect and I don’t watch their videos because I think they’re perfect. I watch them because they make me smile and I need to see things like cute babies that make me smile. I thank them for sharing their adorable baby and making a lot of people smile ❤
Stacey do you realise that by putting your children online.....that pedo files can take their pictures and alter them into pornographic images....all family bloggers are using their children for money and putting them at risk. What about that do you not understand?
I have a few autoimmune diseases, and these medications do not work on me. The side effects are horrible, a lot worse than the diseases can be.
This is exactly why I would never want to become an influencer. People dig deep and bring up old healed wounds and rip them open again. They see happy people and try to find something wrong.
Every time! It’s so frustrating. Cancel culture is so harmful 😭 how can people decide a person is terrible off of old tweets and things that have happened so long ago. The internet has ruined people’s critical thinking skills 😭
@@leigha3083literally. like the whole brooke situation. obviously we all said stupid shit when we were younger and all that but people grow and learn and everything. people can change
Ultimately a spiteful and vindictive person in their personal lives started this. It's not just about that either. It's also watching who you associate with.
55:36 - with the person who leaked it. My first thought was "parental figure who HATES she can stand on her own" and then i thought "if its more like a sibling/cousin, then its probably because she wouldn't just keep giving and giving and giving of her "easy peasy" earned money for what THEY wanted" (seen those entitled people both irl and online too much to count 😮💨)
@@charlottet7379 I dont know why but it feels like a sibling/cousin to me.
I’m a nurse , and I believe every word , and still support you guys and I’m so glad yall have each other!
I will NEVER take a sleep med again! I have suffered with insomnia for over 15yrs and ONCE my doctor gave me the same kind of medicine and I did the same thing with NO DRINKING! My husband said I got up I packed up my kids and drove to my mom's he was trying to stop me but i was adamit about leaving so i got there my mom said the kids didn't want to stay and i got mad and put them back in the car and drove back home, and when I parked i actually hit the pole in front on my house where I parked in my yard I just barely tapped it but I got the kids our went inside and went to sleep and I have NO memory of any of it and when I read about that medication the very first side effect was DRIVING without knowing 🙄 and it's doesn't even have to be mixed with alcohol to cause problems it's just that medication and does that to some people and not to others 😢😢it was scary
Yeah I recently had to deal with side effects from a sleep aid and i want even neckband one. I'm pregnant and needed something for car rides because I was getting bad motion sickness. The nurse said they wanted me to try this and it helps with nausea in some cases. I asked them why don't they just prescrib me a nausea med. I can't drive with a sleep need. Long story short I now have a new baby dr and not stressing out or having bad side effects from meds@nataliegonzales1724
Yes mam any one that has had to take some strong meds together you have got to be careful,it happens. To be so fast to judge.
Dont be so fast to judge unless u have been there u have no idea. U two need to like u said shut the door.
I'm a Paramedic and I can absolutely picture the scene as it appeared to responding Officers. I am also a person who has had an adverse reaction to a medication that made me lose touch with reality and was one of the scariest things I have been through.
I understand how terrifying it is to have your mind betray you, and how humiliating it feels to have a mental health emergency even knowing that it was caused by something a doctor gave you.
You are so brave and my prayer for you both is that you come out of this feeling peace and comfort in the knowledge that you are a wonderful team and you have an amazing impact on the world.
I have never thought you two were bad. I love watching both of you and especially little Ellie. You both are loving parents and you can see how much love there is between you both.
My mom has lupus and was put on Cymbalta. She cooked in the middle of the night, drove to Walmart and bought a really expensive camera, Sleep walked, etc. When we figured it out we were all horrified she had drove (especially her since she had no memory). This medicine is so intense and I believe them 100%
I was put on Cymbalta in my early 40s- I lasted 2 weeks and knew something was very wrong!! My whole personality changed- felt like I was walking around invisible- literally thought no one could see me- told the Dr I was done with it and He actually tried to convince me that if I'd just stay on it for 6 to 8 weeks I would adjust... ya no.
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I totally believe them and everyone else that is talking about the effects of cymbalta but I’m kind of blown away bc I have taken it for omg probably 10+ years and take 90mg. I have never experienced any of the things ppl are describing. I can’t imagine going through that.
I'm so sorry about your mom. I have Lupus as well.
I think it dependsnon your illness too. @Blondie7676
As soon as Kay said Cymbalta my heart dropped. That medication is horrifying. My body lost all sense of temperature regulation so if I went outside on a summer day for even 10 minutes I would get heat stroke and nearly lose consciousness.
I took it ONCE! The experience was horrible! Never again.
I've been on Cymbalta for YEARS and have never had any problems. I think people need to look at each individual as just that- an individual. I'm so sorry this happened to Kay. And I'm sorry for everyone who's had reactions to the medication but it does work for some people... Btw I take it for my clinical depression and my fibromyalgia.
@karenfrasure6973 yeah I've been on cymbalta for 16 years no problems
I now have a pacemaker after being on Cymbalta
@@karenfrasure6973same it’s the best thing I have ever taken only side affect is I have to pee all night
I have watched a lot of Kay & Tay's content without following. Seeing them be vulnerable, honest, and loving each other through this mess is why I am now following them. I am so sorry people are putting you through hell, but I have a lot of respect for how you are handling this.
I can't believe the police left Kay alone like that. They need more training in medical emergencies. In the state she was in she absolutely could have hurt herself or others. Leaving her unsupervised for the rest of the night was SO dangerous.
He should have called paramedics ! They're lying
@cherylpelletier3165 Exactly! All the way around does not make sense. Just because you call the police because of an issue with a partner, they do not show up and no matter the issue or circumstances have to take one to jail and definitely with no evidence of a domestic issue. They would have to come up with some random charge with zero evidence to support the charges and " my husband is saying I'm not acting right and I'm not sure why but he won't give me my keys so that I can go celebrate my bday by myself! Is not a law that he broke.
Then they say that they just need to separate for the night and even though she's the one going thru some kind of medical issue and it is causing her to act out irrationally and have no memory the events that took place that night....but the cops thought the best course of action was to leave her there at home...Alone...while having some kind of very dangerous reaction to the meds she took. And they didn't think that any of this was significant or required a trip to the hospital and she didn't want to go get checked out either from what I gather (probably because it would prove something different)
So instead of taking her to the hospital to get help, they choose to falsely charge him with DV and take him to jail while leaving her alone.
Come on People!! How could anyone hear these two explain things and not realize that it's all bs
@PettyDrangonfly
At the time of the incident, Kay did not know that it was a reaction to her new medication, this was not found out until later at her follow up Dr's appointment! Also, Kay had told 911 and the officers that Tay was holding her on the bed and not allowing her to leave, that is an illegal offence known as Forcible Confinement, also because they are married, like they stated, it is considered a DV, because a 911 call was made, even though there seemed to be no assault, they will not leave both parties together, as Kay stated, she was also upset that they had left her alone in the state she was in, the police screwed up! Paramedics should have been called for Kay, if Kay had known about the med interaction with the alcohol at the time she would have explained that, but that wasn't the situation unfortunately! Just because things didn't happen the way you think they should have doesn't mean they didn't happen that way! If you're so inclined to be nasty to these people, why are you even watching their channel? Go find some happiness somewhere and let them live their life! I think you need a hug!
Well they don’t not arrest people because their partner doesn’t want them to be.
Facts.
Cops and medical professionals are getting really un relevant.
What's insane to me is how many people are obsessed with "influencers" lives instead of their own!
The most accurate comment on this feed. I am so happy to read someone else thinks along a similar thread as myself. Far too many support this influencer trend like they are best friends with people whom the majority do not know.
It’s almost sad how angry people are even after they explained it thoroughly. Hes clearly innocent of all wrong doing since judge dismissed it entirely and it will not ever even effect a background check. Some states just are sloppy with how they allow info on innocent or people not ever formerly charged. Poor Kay and Tay. People have way to much time on hands
@@NurseTruther89I feel so bad for them that they have to pay to right the police and courts wrong. It doesn’t make any sense that you should have to pay when found innocent to get rid of the records. America is so weird with the court system and all of that stuff, I don’t get it man 😂. If your poor in America it seems to me like everything is out to get you, like there is a pay wall on everything and if you can’t afford it it’s gonna be like playing dark souls on max diff
@@maxgronros6728it’s a very messed up system here…
Preach! Who cares. They don’t need to explain anything.
When people are miserable they don’t like to see others happy. Your joy disturbs them.
As someone who has worked in law enforcement for years, I 1000% BELIEVE Kay and Tay. Police have certain “criteria and regimens” they have to abide by. A general way to handle DV situations. They handled this as a DV situation. IT WASNT and that’s exactly why IT WAS DISMISSED!
But why didn't the police call for an EMT to look at Kay and give her clearance? She claimed she was a medical emergency, for the responding officers to NOT call for medical backup is negligent
@@keeperofthehomestead9193because in that moment she didn’t know it was a medical emergency
@@DeannaMarinabut Tay did... also she said she takes the medication like normal and drinks no more than usual, so why did she have a psychosis this time??? Also the cops gonna leave her alone and gonna possibly drive after they leave? How did they not see that she wasn't in her right mind?
@@84mobstarShe drank no more then usual for a gaming night then took her meds with the wine in her system for the 1st time while on the new med. She didn't know not to mix liquor with this particular medicine. She had only been taking the medication for under a week by the time this episode happened.
@@84mobstar, she didn't drink every night. That was the first time while taking Cymbalta. I took that medicine for several years and had a similar experience.
Abby did such a good job of asking the questions everyone has been asking in a respectful way. This is such a good interview!
@@nicolewade160agreed!
100%
@@nicolewade160exactly. Abby seemed very cold, and I felt she didn’t believe them. No compassion at all.
@@nicolewade160I'm glad someone said it because I felt that whilst watching this too. Felt so uncomfortable - I wouldn't have continued to sit there if I was Kay or Tay personally. 😔
It's a very personal and raw topic that clearly they didn't want made public and torn apart by people. It deserved some compassion and understanding.
The interview seemed strange. If Kay was so out of it how did she remember so many details
Kay and Tay are one of my favorite couples/parents 🥰
I love the wholesomeness 🫶🏽
Keep loving one another. Remember, every brick haters throw keep them... those brick help build your castle!!!
Thank you so much for sharing your story!!! My mom is on Cymbalta and we are on vacation right now and the doctor told her a drink would be fine but after I saw this we are so thankful we were informed!
It's really depended on how your body handles it. How much in 1ndrink. How long in between andnhow fast but its really not a good idea tp test even if given the go ahead
I almost lost my job because of Cymbalta. No alcohol at all.
I didn't drink while on Cymbalta and it STILL happened to me. Alcohol is not required. That doctor is irresponsible.
I was on cymbalta I ask the doctor if I could drink and he said go ahead it might make you feel better..
Cymbalta created so much brain fog for me. I was so glad to get off of it. It took months to get out of my system.
I called and reported my kids missing while taking a med. They was in school but in my mind they was missing and I was frantically searching for them. Meds can do crazy things to you!
Oh wow that’s crazy!
Which is why they should've called 911 to have EMTs come out and assess her. She was having a medical situation.
That's if what they're saying really happened, in the first place. I don't believe them for a second. They kept changing so many things.
This whole story is BS. They "just needed to separate them", "if he did anything she wouldn't have been able to bail him out" well that's easy to confirm, all we need to do is look at his charges. That's what he was ARRESTED for. As for her, they don't send police & no EMTs for a call involving someone having a manic episode. Read the police report, she was "in fear for her life". This is damage control & none of it even makes sense.
I suffered audio and visual hallucinations during a psychological break that lasted about 2 years. I can not be a reliable witness for anything that happened outside of those hallucinations and i wasnt even on meds at the time or drunk. But she is the one giving us a detailed account of what happened that night ... the night she claims she was hallucinating, on meds and she was drunk? 😒 please tell me we are smarter than this. They never address why he was taken to jail and she wasnt taken to the emergency room when authorities showed up ... but we can deduce that there was not a medical emergency like she is claiming or they would have taken her and not him.
I dont know anything about these two other than what they are saying here ... and it is clear they are not being honest as there are too many glaring inconsistencies.
@@Diamondz572 oh snap! I am with you on this. They have not cleared anything up and just deflected the blame onto their audience for finding out about the incident.
This is the sweetest couple don’t be embarrassed about life hitting you it hits everybody and you are both human! Continue your life and enjoy your babies
Matt and abby actually handled this amazing. They get so much hate especially on this podcast, but i think they asked the right questions. I think they handled this very well by not just letting them talk and asking not so easy questions.
I’m not the biggest fans of Matt and Abby but I agree. They didn’t just let things slide when it didn’t make sense. They asked all the good questions. They did great.
They did really great. Sometimes it's easy to forget how young both couples are. Thank goodness the internet wasn't around when I was in my early 20's.
@@baileymcdoulett6956 same
I've seen shorts that are very hateful towards Matt. Unfortunately I didn't look at who put it out. The Dad Podcast released the arrest record, mug shot of Taylor on You Tube.
@@MicheleWalkerWebb yes I've seen those shorts. Heaven forbid we make a mistake on social media. The haters descend in droves.
Matt and Abbey, you were the perfect host for this type of tell-all. You guys get so much hate online about your relationship while you only post wholesome content, and Kay and Tay are the same! Glad this was cleared up and I really enjoy both your families’ content. Keep it up ♥️
Really? Hopefully you don't have a profession where tone of voice and body language are pertinent... How do you not see Abby's judgemental eyes, hear her judgement in her voice fluctuation, or see the hostility in her body language? Really?!?!?
@@southerngypsy1894 I'm 24 minutes in and I was thinking the same thing. I was put off by the time of her voice when asking questions.
Love matt n abby but I thought the same thing. Almost like they didn't believe them at all ..
I like them, she just acts like a young girl. I thought she was around 21, there's times she talks like a child.
@@pamelaelizondo9419 Which one, Abby or Kay?
Kay & Tay your content always make me smile. Thx for being so vulnerable, I know it's not easy. Don't let the negative stuff bring you down.
I was on cymbalta for a while & drank wine and I’m telling you she is telling full truth. I was so confused & upset. Feel for you Kay
@@StephanieLEasley same!
Why are all of you drinking on medication YOU CLEARLY CANT DRINK with ?
@@brooklin_bernek not all doctors specify and as you can see from these comments, it’s different for everyone. Some people are on one medication and some are on a cocktail.
Don’t be ignorant, as if everyone in the world on medication won’t drink.
I’ve personally had some medication cause issues with drinking and some haven’t.
@@brooklin_bernekWhy the capital letters?
@@gillianjackson9403 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t understand why people are saying this makes no sense. Medication mixed with alcohol is always a disaster. 🤷🏼♀️ bless their hearts
100% I'm on so many medications that I am SO cautious about drinking on them. Even though I got the ok from my doctors I waited for months because I was too afraid of something happening.
Meds can be a disaster period
Especially cymbalta, it's used as a sleep med
Listen to people ambien stories
Because she remembers everything yet was out of her mind on meds? Ya no!
I actually love Tay & Kay’s videos. Tay you’re a great guy, you spoil her and Elli. I love it. Please don’t stop because of the haters
As is said by another influencer that I've seen. Haters will hate and there's nothing you can do about it.
I will continue to watch them. Love their videos. I was put on cymbalta once she's so right about it. ❤❤❤❤
I'm sorry, but the ones hating are the ones who are jealous. I'm actually REALLY sick of them.
As soon as she said Cymbalta everything makes sense😭🤚
For real. I had a in-law kill herself while taking it. It had ALOT of bad side affects for a lot of people I’ve heard.
Omg I had the same thought 😭
Omg, I took that once because my Fibromyalgia was ruining me. The Dr gave it to me like it was candy. I took one pill and was sick for 5 days. Gave me horrible anxiety, it was awful. I went online and saw how horrible the withdrawals of it are. It's similar to heroine. I went back to the Dr and told her how dangerous that drug was and how she needs to be cautious handing it out to her patients. She only said "It helps a lot of people. It just didn't work for you". I never went back to her.
@@saltycat662I have quit it cold turkey and never withdrawed
i thought the same
i think no matter what we as an audience think happened, if they’re saying this is what happened then it’s not up to us to become detectives and analyze what did or didn’t happened. We all were not there, none of us can TRULY know who is or isn’t lying.
This^
Well said! Thats why when a certain channel bashes all these families and somehow has paper work on them, even though he claims he watches video for the first time when he is live. How could he have documents on some of these , as proof, if he didnt know what the video was about yet?
Hopefully I made a little sense on what i am trying to say
@@staceyerikson4982He says he has multiple sources from Kay's life that are speaking to him and providing him with the evidence he claims he has.
Hence they say we have to decide for ourselves if we believe them or not.
Huge fan of Kay and Tay. I heard about the rumors and was shocked at first. This now makes so much sense.
I'm so glad that someone is talking about the side effects of the wrong medication. It is so hard dealing with the wrong medication!
It was less that it’s the wrong med and more that she added alcohol in 🤷♀️
When things started circulating I flat out didn’t believe it. I just knew there was more to the story! Thanks for being brave and telling your story
OMG, I had no idea that people were hating on you two! You two are the cutest and sweetest couple!! Hate is the furthest thing from my mind when I think of the two of you. I can fully understand the confusion of a medical situation like this. You have said your peace/piece about it, and I wouldn't give it anymore oxygen. No need to. Keep doing you! You are a great little family.
Same here. That also show we are not haters nor follows haters or begin it. I don't understand haters. I do understand I'm not one and never be one period... sending prayers to them to protect them from negative and hate. Sending love and prayers ❤.
Misery needs company. Some people will do anything to bring others down.
I didn’t know about this, but thank you for sharing this story!! It shows people that “influencers” are literally regular people. I think some folks need that reminder!! Love Kay and Tay!! Thank you for sharing your life with us, but also…you owe us nothing!
What makes me the most sad by this situation is how easily it could’ve been avoided had Kay been given proper education for her new med from her MD or pharmacist. MD’s are not often afforded the time to go over this during appointments &/or may not be able to speak to all of the med info a patient needs to know. Most patients deny their right to a consultation with a pharmacist, but I hope this situation can highlight the utility of a pharmacist & encourage people to take the time to learn about their meds
It’s written right on the bottle and huge letters do not drink alcohol
@@larissa_7729 My medication sometimes has a sticker with a no drinking symbol on it, but sometimes the sticker isn't there even when it should be. Pharmacy errors cause a huge number of deaths and injuries every single year.
Exactly plus when you get any prescription they attach a whole pamphlet about the medication
@larissa_7729 actually it's a small label on the side of the bottle, and not everyone reads the pamphlet, my husband never does
Every time I start a new medication my pharmacy makes me talk to the pharmacist before I can have the medication and then I'm asked about every three months by the pharmacist if I'm having any problems or questions about the medication, even if I've been taking it for years. All pharmacies should do this.
I am so proud of these two. I was wondering why things had slowed down with them, and now I understand and I am so supporting their way of handling this. I'm sorry people have to be so nasty because of jealousy or whatever, or simply they're drama-addicts and have nothing better to do with their lives. I'm so sorry this all happened to both of you and I'm glad that Unplanned Podcast helped you to spread your story. You both are strong people and truly love each other and I'm so proud of you both. Stay strong like you are and I'll support you all the way!
Kay and Tay thank you for telling your story. You personally didn't owe anything to anyone. Live your life and congratulations on your new house guys😊
So true
AMEN 🙏🙏🙏
Amen 🙏🏻 💕
I feel so much for Kay, of course Tay too but it broke my heart when she said “I know what a bad relationship is, it’s insulting that they’d think I’d do that again”, it hit me so hard. That hit such a sore spot for her and I know it. I never ever for a second questioned them, I knew it was all a huge misunderstanding. The way they love each other is so real and you can feel it through the screen. This was an amazing interview ❤
The sad part is that many people that have been in abusive relationships think they will never be in that situation again, yet they slowly figure out that one of their next partners is starting to do similar things. Abusive people know how to love bomb a new partner, hide that side for a while, and then slowly tap into some of the past damage that happened in their partner's past relationship. I 100% believe their story, but I am also sad for victims that one day figure out that they were tricked into it again and feel stupid.
I was with my ex for 3 years before he put his hands on me. Before that day, I never once felt unsafe with him. I still feel stupid when I think back to the fact that I stayed after that time, but when things turn 180° during a stressful time, you think it is just a one off situation. The only thing that helps me to stop beating myself up is the fact that his brother told his wife that he was struggling watching his brother change into someone he doesn't recognize and doesn't like. That was said before he knew that his brother had changed enough to become physical with me. So if someone that knew him for 25 years was surprised at the change, then I had no chance to catch it earlier. 😢
Humility is a true blessing, and you both are a blessing to all of us and your precious baby. Thank you for being real.
I’m so proud of you guys, Tay and Kay talking about your story! I will forever be supportive of you guys! I love you both and your family😊
Thank you Kay & Tay for speaking up. This interview was so respectful and a great way to say the story. Their transparency was so refreshing and I wish for this to be done with. Sending love, peace and support!
Amen 🙌🏼
I love them! I love their openness and honesty! Their videos are fun and Ellie seems to be a happy baby. Thanks for sharing! Y’all did a great job!
Matt and Abby. You both did such a beautiful job, allowing them to share and talk. And being such great listeners. Asking great questions. And being there for them. You two have so much love and kindness. Kay and Tay, what a precious marriage you have.
You’re joking, Abby came across as judgemental and snarky 😂
These are some of the most obviously sweetest people. When it come to things like this, people should mind their own business. They've shown through their videos the kind of people they are!❤
My pastor preached a good message here a few months ago about people believing what they want basically and he said something that has stuck with me. He said “Those who love you will believe you, and those who don’t, don’t matter.” (Their opinion or what they believe don’t matter). 😊
I truly didn’t believe this until she mentioned the name of the medicine. I literally gasped when she said it. Cymbalta made me lose my mind and I ended up in the ER and admitted to the hospital for 2 days.
But she didn't. They took him and not her.
@@Katrielibleyeah, bc if you LISTEN nobody in that situation connected the dots that this medication was the one causing this episode.
@@lucrezialazzari1998Nah...it's because she told them he was physical with her. Even if he didn't "connect the dots" to the medication...he said he knew she wasn't herself. Yet he never expressed that something might be wrong...instead he decides arrest for DV is better. Makes no sense.
Cymbalta is an evil drug. I had asked if you could drink, in moderation, while taking this medication and was told sure there were no listed adverse effects. I had a similar experience and was also told that I looked like I was on hard-core drugs by another individual the next day. This scenario has happened to so many individuals, and because of that this drug is now red-labeled for drug/alcohol interaction which acts the same as if you were given GHB.
I find it interesting that you can only believe someone if you have had a shared experience.
I love Kay and Tay! They are what a relationship should be.
Thank you for giving them this environment to tell their story honestly. People are so quick to judge…
I’m so sorry this happened to you guys! I really admire how you’ve handled this situation and your honesty throughout. I’m sorry this happened you and that people have been hurting you. Thanks for being so vulnerable about this hard situation!
I'm a criminal defense attorney. Here are some scattered thoughts. Admittedly, I don't think I'm in the same state as them. But many states have mandatory domestic violence arrest policies, if police have "probable cause" to believe that a domestic violence offense has occurred an arrest must follow. The issue that ends up arising with these mandatory arrest policies is that police essentially don't use any common sense, because they figure "we'll just charge the guy, book him, and the DA will dismiss it if it turns out it wasn't DV." But it can be a very traumatic experience for people, especially people with no crim history.
Some of the things they said are not correct. Any member of the public can bail someone out, that includes alleged victims of DV. Also, he was not "found innocent." The courts are not in the business of determining innocence.
He was charged with misdemeanor harassment. What probably happened from the cops perspective is this. The cops separated him. They asked her what happened. "I was trying to leave, he was pulling me away from the door, he was holding me down, he was preventing me from leaving." The cops asked him what was going on. "She was trying to leave." Cops ask "did you restrain her?" Taylor: "Yeah, I held her back because she was trying to leave, and she's drunk. etc." Now you have a victim allegation of physical use of force, a defendant admission. Both probably also admitted to being intimate partners. To a cop, that's probable cause, at least to charge a misdemeanor, and "let the courts figure it out" is something you'll hear often from cops on BWC.
The two ladies that Kay spoke with were probably victim advocates. They're mandatory staff in most jurisdictions. Maybe also an investigator. DAs do speak with victims, but usually not at a court hearing because they're too busy.
The judge did not make a ruling, the judge in a criminal case does not make findings of fact. The judge likely dismissed it because the prosecutor made an oral/written motion to dismiss. A judge must grant that motion. If the prosecution doesn't proceed on a case, the judge cannot (obviously) prosecute the case for them. The prosecution is the one which likely evaluated the evidence and decided they couldn't proceed on the case. And their inability to proceed on the case is the operative element, they could absolutely proceed on the case without Kay's consent.
Personally, I think misdemeanor DV is overcharged. And I've talked to even DAs who agree, ultimately it comes down to the fact that error is inevitable, you want to err on the side of overcharging rather than undercharging, because DV can be serious. And it causes a weird courtroom dynamic...most DV cases are quite weak, DAs win substantially less than 50% of even the DV cases they elect to take to trial, it's partially because the context in which DV happens is hard to prove, and part because many of the cases simply don't have aggravated facts. Any defense attorney who has handled enough DV cases can tell you dozens and dozens, if not hundreds, of ridiculous charging stories.
Finally, the casual behavior of the cops is something I want to address. Those of us who interface with this on a daily basis have a callousness to the system as a whole. Cops arrest people on a daily basis, I then talk to people in jail on a daily basis. It is easy to forget the impact that this type of situation can have on normal people who don't regularly interact with the criminal justice system. To us, it's just a Tuesday, and this is just another dumb borderline PC harassment DV case that, in the scale of what we deal with, is a relatively small and trivial case. To the people involved, this will haunt them for the rest of their lives. I don't interpret the cops acting casually as them thinking he's innocent, more of them thinking that the conduct they're responding to is low-level. But it's always a good reminder, a certain callousness is necessary to stay in the profession, but these things really change people's lives.
If they really told the cops at time she was having any kind of medical mental issue as they say he did … aren’t they obligated to call medical and not leave her alone??? Why would he and the cops be ok leaving her by herself ?! Obviously she still had access to vehicles ect… you’d think part of story would be him saying I was insistent they get medical there or call a friend or family to be there with her before they so calmly took him off to jail ect… this is why I don’t believe the story and think it’s something made up after!! I believe what you’re saying I just don’t believe them… he said he was happy cops were coming but then was just happy to go off to jail and leave her alone??? I have feeling it was drunk fight when they came she accused him of something… I’m assuming it was true for her to then when she sobered up came up with this story like most dv victims do! I’d like to see police report and see if either said anything about him being worried about her mental state cause if they did… and anything happened to her after they’d kinda be liable wouldn’t they?
@@GavynGageHudsynGentry they are certainly not obligated haha, at least not in my state. Cops have the discretion to call medics, they usually will if there are visual injuries, or symptoms like issues breathing, drug overdose. Every resource is finite, including medical. If you have a woman who says she's fine, and a man says he thinks she's had some bad wine because she's not thinking straight, I don't think any cops would call medical. Medical is stretched thin as it is, if that is all you have then it makes no sense.
This is more common than you think. A lot of people with mental health issues call the cops and say "I'm having a mental health episode." Most of these calls don't end up with medical being called, there simply is not enough resources to do that. And that also belies the fact that, the cops are not your Mental health hotline. They are there to solve crimes. Which is also why I don't think the cops would ever be found liable, practically speaking. They get dozens of calls a week from people who try to use them as a MH hotline, and the most common outcome that I see is that they run the names and pick the callers up on warrants (this is very job specific, obviously).
Which sort of ties into point 2, cops are not babysitters. Once they have made the decision to charge Tay, and they have removed him from the scene, their job there is done. Usually they give the victim a card with victim resources to use. They do not have the time to babysit her until she is sober again. If, say, she was at a bar, the cops would have her call a sober 3rd party to pick her up, but here she was already home. If she drives, they will pull her over and charge her with DUI. There are simply not enough cops to utilize their time that way. She is an adult, and is allowed to call any friends or family that she wants to come and be with her.
I don't think Taylor was ok with leaving her by herself, when you are arrested you don't have any say in the matter. I agree that he tried to play up too much the calmness of his arrest experience, arrest is government force, it is a constitutional seizure, but I don't think his leaving her alone was indicative of anything because he didn't do it voluntarily.
I mean, you're certainly able to come to any conclusions about what really happened that night that you'd like to. Obviously, I wasn't there, so I can't say. I think, in most misdo DV cases, we don't and will never know what happened. Sometimes, I think my clients must have done something, because the evidence really doesn't align with nothing happening, but even still I wasn't there, I don't know who started what, or who said what.
Thank you for explaining that so thoroughly.
Very good explanation. Having had to deal with the system with a domestic matter, I totally agree with you , he was over charged but it was a reduction which also makes sense. When he was protecting his wife, this is unfortunate. He did not have a lawyer when he went to court it sounds like and that was why he was still charged with something.
Great explanation. Reminds me of Season 3 of the Serial podcast where they describe the justice system as a train ride where once you're on, it's difficult to get off. Luckily this was no big deal to them at the time but even needing to take a day or multiple days off of work to deal with this or get expensive legal advice on the expungement for example is out of reach for many or seriously sets them back from being able to take care of their family.
I would hope people do not want to just hurt you because you are on u-tube….. Taylor treats you like a queen, I love to hear him call you “Sweetie” and your excitement and innocence of the things he does to please you is so refreshing ! Love you both, God Bless your family❤
As soon as she said Cymbalta I 100% believed them. That drug is so scary for some people.
Same!
Yep! Husband was put on cymbalta for auto immune condition. No alcohol involved and no one else present but he put his fist through his computer monitor while weaning off of it. Said his emotions had never been that out of control. Brain zaps etc. truly awful side effects. Reddit has countless posts and stories about alcohol and no alcohol incidents w/this med. helps for some but was terrible for him.
yup! i was put on cymbalta for depression, which caused me to pass out. my boyfriend of the time heard me fall in the shower and i woke up like 10 seconds later disoriented as heck. most my body purple (as if i was cold) it was my body’s allergic reaction to this med. Cymbalta should not be prescribed tbh
Same. 10000% believe her. Lyrica FUCKSSS you up. My husband was on it. Imagine having 1 drink, then take the lyrica, suddenly you feel like you've had 3 drinks.
@@cierrakeska2241 , that is terrifying! Unfortunately it works wonders for me. I have had to cold turkey off it a few times. Twice for pregnancies, and I had all the distant, tunnel, fog, brain zaps for almost a year each time. But without it, I have such bad pain and depression, anxiety, tears, worthlessness, hopelessness. It does work for some people really well. I have tried so many depression medications in 15 years, and had terrifying side effects until finding Cymbalta (duloxetine). Everyone's brain chemistry is so different. It's amazing that poison for one person can be a godsend for another.
I hope you're doing well today 🙏🏼💟🌷
Kay and Tay, I love you guys, and when I first saw the mugshot, I immediately went to see what you guys had to say about it. No matter what, I know people aren't perfect, and I support you! Love you!
I had no idea what was going on so I looked at the first few minutes of the vid. I absolutely couldn’t care less about what goes on in one’s private life. And I appreciate this podcast for hosting you guys to talk about this situation in a comfortable environment. I’ll have to watch more of their stuff!!
I am
Proud of you both being strong enough and coming forward and telling what happened even though it is NO ONES BUSINESS!!
I have lupus and multiple autoimmune disorders. I can relate. I hate to see Kay so emotional about waiting for a diagnoses. I’ve been there. I started watching Kay and Tay because I love seeing babies and Ellie is adorable , they are such a cute couple. 😊 I hate that people are so cruel to try and destroy others lives. No one deserves to know personal details about you just because you’re on TH-cam or any other platforms. People who seek to destroy and not find out the truth aren’t worth a worry. I hope Kay and Tay will continue their fun content!😊
Idc what anyone else says about you two or your relationship, I'm super happy that you shared the truth. My son and I totally enjoy watching your videos, and we will continue. You and your shorts bring a light into my days. Ty for sharing such a big part of your lives with us
Thank you Kay and Tay for sharing the truth! I’ve seen the lies and I honestly thought “there is no way this is true!”. I knew there was a true story that people were missing and I’m sorry fans have taken advantage of your name.
Matt and Abby, thank you for being such sweet friends and creating such a safe space and podcast for stories to be shared! You are so sweet and make a difference. Please keep on doing what you’re doing!!
When Taylor said I took a vow in sickness and health the leave option wasn’t and option I got chills/ goosebumps of happiness ❤❤
Yet they weren't married at that time. 🤷🏽
@@s_a_r_a_jd2204Yes they were? That incident happened in 2019, but they got married in 2016.
@@s_a_r_a_jd2204yes they were. She said it at the beginning.
Gullable 😂
I got goose bumps because it made me uncomfortable. Who says that about someone. I tried to protect them because of a vow? Not because of love or connection or because they are another human being. I believe them about cymbalta, that stuff is crazy, but this statement was really freaky and abnormal.
When I was on Cymbalta I was rushed to the hospital with Tachycardia (my sodium and calcium levels were extremely low), and my white blood cell count was super high. It was assumed that I was high on something and I was given a high dose of Ativan to bring my BP down. I have naturally low BP, so I ended up in the hospital for 5 nights, completely out of it from low BP, being given shots in my stomach to bring it back up. I was on an antibiotic IV drip the whole time. They brought in an Infectious Disease Specialist to try to find anything that could have caused the crazy high WBC count, and found nothing. I was sent home with no conclusions. I looked up the side effects of the medications that I was on and found out that Cymbalta can cause Hyponatremia and Hypocalcemia, which caused the Tachycardia. It can also cause IBS, which I was dealing with regularly until I stopped taking it. It worked great for the depression, unfortunately. I had to start again on the long list of anti-depressants to find what works for me. I honestly feel like that medication shouldn't be on the market anymore.
You guys did this video they explained it all.. this is a repeat video .. kay .. Taylor. You both have NOTHING to be ashamed of . You both moved forward and for some reason people can't handle that. Just know the past is the past. All we have is now. ♡
I knew there was more to the story, coming from someone that’s been in a DV relationship the way she allows herself to be so vulnerable around him and shows him her full raw emotions is not something most DV victims would do.
THIS
Untrue. As a DV victim myself, you cannot assume that a victims behavior around their abuser, when people are watching, is in fact their “normal” behavior. I was vulnerable and open around my abuser, I was completely brainwashed into thinking I was in a safe space.
@@liveandlove57sometimes in some cases tho, my mom is a DV victim herself and I saw everything but she never cried in front of her husband at the time up until they split. She wasn’t even venerable to me and I’m her oldest daughter.
@@liveandlove57exactly
@@Nevaeh_V04of course! I think the point is everyone is different and so is every situation. People can’t assume what is filmed is actually real though.
Cymbalta is terrifying. I was put on it as a teen and basically blacked out and was screaming, crying, taking swings at my parents while they were desperately trying to help me. I wanted to end my life right then and there. It was a MESS. I immediately stopped taking it that day and felt so much better.
i’m proud of you ❤
The reactions I have had to medications are terrible. It’s so embarrassing and honestly now I don’t even risk trying new ones. They turned me from a loving wife and mother to a lunatic who would disappear in the middle of the night or threaten to harm myself. I do wish doctors were more transparent about side effects. Like Kay, AFTER my issues I found online support outlining the dangers of the medication I was on and the survival rates of coming off the medication. It should be spoken about more.
Same. I was on Cymbalta (Duloxetine). I just took myself off of it and I am still seeing myself come back everyday. 4 years of a mom, wife, and daughter walking around like a zombie. Like Kay I will never promote this medication to any friend or family. So many side affects to count, the withdrawal of coming off the medication, and the if on long enough needing to possibly learn a few things. Cymbalta was also masking other problems for me and causing me to feel migraine problems when I suffer from them.
So, glad that Kay and Tay could tell their story. I hope all the best to them. 🙏❤
The meds cant be blamed for that situation. If she were hallucinating from meds and alcohol, 1. how does she know what happened? I suffered audio and visual hallucinations for about 2 yrs and that was not being on meds or drinking ... i can not be an accurate witness for ANYTHING that happened during that time. 2) when the authorities showed up, they took him to jail but left her? In the midst of hallucinations? Get tf outta here .... not buying it.
Read ‘asecmimosas4536’ comment.. I was thinking the same thing but when I read ☝🏼this attorneys comment I understand a little more I guess
I can’t take ANY meds without having bad side effects.
How can people be so cruel? Don’t they have anything better to do? What a lovely couple. Just leave them alone! They haven’t done anything wrong!
I’m loving how Abby is asking literally all the hard questions!! Abby is asking what we all wanted to know. I don’t think Abby was asking to hurt Tay. She was asking these questions so we can hear how Taylor was not in the wrong! You go Abby!!!
I don't think this was anyone's business but theirs.
So sad that you had to go through all of this! Glad you are staying strong through it. Don't worry about the haters.
Some people love to assume the worst instead of approaching a situation with compassion. We never really know ANYTHING about what is going on in someone else's life. I don't really follow either of these couples but I am glad these seemingly sweet people got to share their story. Best wishes and prayers for all
Keep your head up guys. I for one am here for your wholesome content. I have loved watching you guys and now y'all and Ellie.
Abby you did so great asking the hard questions!! Wow such a great and informative interview thank y’all so much!! ❤❤❤
I just think Kay and Tay are the best. I love watching their clips because they make me happy, and they give me hope that people can really love one another, and be courteous and thoughtful. Any negativity that comes there way is only a reflection of the person putting it out there, and it has nothing to do with them, whatsoever!!! I just want to say thank you for putting so much laughter, joy, and love into the world. It's not surprising that dark people will rise up against the light you guys shine!!! So don't take it to heart, don't let it hurt you or get under your skin, because you know who you are, you know your own goodness and kindness, the rest is all just background noise!!!!
I feel terrible they were basically pushed to talk about this due to all the hate! You owed us nothing Tay and Kay you are such a lovely family, have so much love for you both xxx
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Much agreed!
They're bizarre. Why does she talk like a baby and her husband treats her like a child?? She's 32!!!!
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@@MeghanScully92 They are only talking because this hurts their brand. They are banking on fans believing this stupid story.
Matt & Abbey you handled this interview like journalists. Good job.
No they have not. Look at Abby? She is not a professional at all
You know what? Being brought up at this time with so many followers. Your message to all ages can save sooo many young lives making sure NOT to mix alcohol with prescription drugs.
I was on Cymbalta once, I also had the feeling of walking around drunk. After only 4 days on Cymbalta, I ended up in the ER feeling like I was being poisoned. Thankfully the Dr. I saw said I could stop taking it right away.
What I’ve learned about gossip is it usually IS a lie. I question the people who gossip rather than the people who are being gossiped about. Sending Kay and Tay love and prayers! You guys are an amazing couple! ❤
I love Kay and Tay! They have some good energy. And I love how they handled that and the love they have for one another.
My sis in law used to take Cymbalta. We went on a family vacay to Cali and we were all staying in a Airbnb. She drank and ended up going crazy! She was spewing hateful words to her own cousin and tried to fight her! We’re talking about a medical professional who was in her 40’s. I had known her since I was a baby and she never acted like that ever! So that medicine is scary!
Sending you guys so much love! It’s hard being in the public eye. Thank you for sharing the truth. People can be such jerks.
Much love and support to Kay and Tay! Real friends stick around. Thank you for all of the times your videos have made me smile. Love Ellie!!
It’s so sad to see how many people made up stories or jumped to conclusions with out knowing your side of the story I knew there had to be more to the story because I can always feel tay and kays love through the screen I hope that people learn from this and remember to not jump to conclusions and judge before knowing the whole story I love you guys and hope you guys get through this rough patch
Honestly it completely breaks my heart that Kay and Tay felt the need to explain anything at all. NO ONE OWES ANYONE an explanation. It's their life. They know what happened and that's all that matters. Stay strong Kay and Tay ❤❤❤❤
Well to be honest they have put their live out there , they get a lot of money everything they have is from the money they make that came from their social media accounts , so yes they put their self out there so they kinda can’t have their cake and eat it too! I think they are a great couple !
I'm so sorry that people are harassing Kay & Tay. People should mind their own business. If more people were like them, this world would be a much better place. They are real and so sincere.
I had been seeing comments about this and I didn’t believe that it was true. I know it does happen more than we know and my heart goes out to each of them who suffer through domestic violence.
My favorite podcast! Matt and Abby, thank you for always staying true to who you are! You are a bright spot in everyone’s day!
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I’m a little confused ONLY because if Kay and Tay needed to be separated and the issue was he wasn’t letting her leave, what kept her from leaving once the police left? Why would it be a good idea to leave her at home with the keys when there’s the possibility she could get behind the wheel and still end up getting hurt?
Because the police didn’t understand she was confused they aren’t medical professionals and don’t know Kay personally so it’s not like they could know for sure she was having a reaction to medication. I mean Kay and tay didn’t even know until a day or two later that’s what caused the crisis
@@erikajohnson9063wait but didn’t they say Tay told the officers she was out of it and was trying to leave. It doesn’t make sense. And she was cognitively out of it but was talking with the officer and her explanation to the officer made sense enough to book him? And from experience usually isn’t this false imprisonment not DV? I’m not an expert just my thoughts
@@MaddieLopez-w4uI agree with you. There’s some holes in this story.
Because why would she try to leave to “celebrate her birthday” after the cops took her husband away? She already said she was extremely distressed when they took him. There was no reason/drive for her to leave the house after that. Also, like they said in the video, they would not have had to book Tay at all if there was a third party available who Tay could have stayed with instead. In the state that it happened in, the law only requires mandatory separation. Since there was no one else Tay could immediately stay with for the next 24 hours, they legally had to take him to the jail in which case they had to book him per policy/the law
@user-ks2hg6mz8q police are imperfect and the majority of circumstances have "holes" in the story
I am so sorry this happened to you guys. Kay and Tay are so adorable together and I support you both. Kay, please take care with meds and Tay, I am proud of you. You two are blessed to have one another. Much love to you both.
As someone who in the past has mixed alcohol with medications, I believe this 10000%. It’s so scary and although my reaction was different (due to the kind of meds I was on and I think personality ties into this) I see similarities. Confusion is a big side effect.
When I first heard about this, I knew there was more to the story. I don’t believe Kay would stay with him after what she’s gone through.
This is 100% the same thing that happened to my wife. She had lupus and RA. The meds they prescribe for autoimmune diseases make a women a “ psycho bitch” as she describes it. She went from treating me the way a wife normally treats a husband she loves to treating my like I had totally lost the ability to be a good husband. It made zero sense and would be ten times worse when we would go out to dinner and she’d have a glass or two of wine. I’m glad they figured it out as we did. My wife stopped the meds and a week later she was back to her old self again. Now we treat it holistically. It’s working. I feel for these two.
@@jeffpickett9730 same. I suffer from RA and autoimmunity’s. Treating these problems are definitely tailor made. People don’t understand that your immune system runs your whole body and it can cause different problems for different people in different places so it’s like playing prescription bingo.
Eating only meat WILL HELP EVEN MORE! Look into it
@@lesleyannthecarnivore I’ve heard that! Specifically from Mikayla Peterson, her all meat diet saved her life. It’s very difficult and doesn’t work for everyone but I’ve considered it.
I’m sorry you guys had to go through this
@@jpgypsyxo honestly it really does work for everyone! We may not all look the same but our insides are ALL THE SAME! Please research it! I feel better in my 50s than I have all my life! It’s definitely worth trying for 30 days! Good luck….You got this!
Kay and Taylor thank you for sharing your story! Specially Kay with her auto immune disease! I am going to share this story with a beloved family member who basically went through the same thing. I’m hoping it gives them clarity to what has happened to them as well. Love watching your beloved video of your beautiful family and watching that beautiful baby grow 🥰 Thanks for making me smile!!
Cymbalta was one of the roughest medicines I have been prescribed. The side effects were the worse I experience hallucinations and headaches.
@@trjollyYou do know everyone is different right? Thought this was common knowledge, what is true for your son might not be true for someone else.
@@trjolly, I tried at least 10 different medications, with all sorts of side effects, non effects, terrible effects, before I found Cymbalta that works for me. But I know a lot of people that it's poison for them.
And like paxil was poison for me, but works for my best friend. Gabapentin tore my mind, body and soul to shreds, but I have a friend who can't sleep, and has severe neck pain without out, after her had a job site accident.
Every body is different.
People need to stop creating drama for others where there isn't. Why? Why can't you listen to this and be proud that they've overcome this as a husband and wife, years ago, and came out the other side?
I also just got a diagnosis that I've been begging for help for 25 years. It takes a long time to find the right treatment in our healthcare system, especially when nobody wants to listen. I had to break bones, dislocate joints, sprain ankles just get into bed, or while relaxing in my sleep to finally get to an orthopedic doctor, who recognized my hypermobility and recommended a rheumatologist to my doctor who would only recognized my problems as PTSD and Fibromyalgia. When I have had Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome my entire life. I'm 44 and finally getting help!
@@trjolly I am glad that your son can take this medication and drink on his medicine. You seem proud as you keep posting. But, I can tell you this medication is awful for others as I was on this medication and hated all of my side effects. I didn't drink on this medication as I take other medicine as well. But, what they described as being confused is a true thing as I seemed more confused than I have been in the 2 weeks I have been off that dang medication. I will never promote that medication. Please understand that not every medication works for everyone and be respectful that everyone's medical journey is different!
Same!
@@trjollyas far as YOU KNOW. I'd wager a guess that you definitely don't know the extent of the impact of that medication, because realistically your son may not even know the extent. Unsure why you're wearing him using this med with alcohol as a badge of honor.
Damn! You guys are awesome!❤ Kay, when you were talking about Cymbalta my heart dropped. I have dealt with depression for over 20 years and I'm grateful that I have found a regime that has worked for me but I struggled with depression and one medication after another for years and I had the same symptoms when I was on Cymbalta but the Drs refused to believe me, but this was like 20 years ago so hopefully the Drs are more aware now. Stay strong, both of you ❤
He truth is always best for sure. It’s nice to hear that and also see the whole fake sweet voice etc dropped. Just being real. Props to you both for being brave enough to speak on this
i feel so sorry for kay and tay for what people were saying, when it went viral everyone was hating without knowing what actually happened and the fact that they all were like “omg i can’t believe it, he’s such a bad person” and all that is so sad because they didn’t deserve that and i see how much it’s affected them, people just have to stop hating and start focusing on their lives and their problems instead of other’s.
I went through a similar situation. I kept trying to leave my house, and my husband of 13 years was like "something's not right, it's 4am" , And I was confused and disoriented. Come to find out I had had a seizure. I had two other seizures after that incident within 2 weeks apart. This sounds so much like me when I have seizures. And you stated that you took new medicine. One of the side effects of most medicines with alcohol is seizures.. so scary. I kept trying to leave too, and I even tried to fight my husband that night, with the other seizures, I tried to fight family members that were around me after I came out of the seizure. I was so disoriented.
its duscusting that all the hate and judgement had to push these guys to open up there PERSONAL lifes ON A SOCIAL PLATEFORM. 😢😢 .. how does anyone think that its there place to do that
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM SO MUCH 😢😢😢😢
Kay and Tay, thank you for taking the time to share your story. You don't owe any of us any explanations or anything but I want you to know how brave you both are (Matt and Abby you guys are really cool too). Unfortunately, there are some really malicious people out there who love to harm or hurt others and I am so sorry you had to go through this. Kay, I am so thankful you are off Cymbalta now and are doing much better overall. I had a horrible experience with a different anti-depressant (Wellbutrin) so I can understand side effects and how awful they can be. I am glad you both are sharing the truth and that you guys are doing much better overall. I wish you both the best. God bless you. 💜🙏
I've been saying this since this became a huge thing, you can't assume based off of something that happened once 5 years ago that you don't have the whole story and it's not your relationship to speak on. It's sad that people have caused them to have to relive this, thank you for sharing.
You guys are amazing. We're here for you. The bullies and haters are insecure and try to bring their negativity onto you. I'm sorry for them treating you this way. Shame on them.
I am certainly not perfect and no one in this world is. I will continue to follow this young couple they have proven to me that they're human and people should just breathe and relax and move forward
Hater’s will hate and drama queens will always cause drama
This is so sad. Just jealousy
Bless your hearts and your baby’s heart. She’s so cute and precious
I’m absolutely floored this past is being brought up when all they do is make cute family videos. I’m lost on why this is a thing??? They’re not horrible people and her openness with PP has been helpful. Thank you for being transparent and I’m sorry you have to hash through this again.
This couple is amazing. Shame on the haters. Stupid. Get a life. Leave them alone. Much love to you guys!! ❤️
We're not all haters We just want some more information on things that have happened. To me they seem like a decent couple. But my concern is with the other daughter and how it affected her not being in the wedding.
The police let me drive completely drunk because I said “I wasn’t”. They are so poorly trained, not equipped for most of their encounters and they think every situation is a war situation! More EMT and medical need to be on scene!
A cop in my area just let a drunk driver go home the other day after he poured out the beer he "cracked open" on the way to the store according to him. I was so mad because they didn't do any sobriety tests no breathalyzer nothing, just a ticket and let him drive away. The amount of people that could have been injured or died. I wish they would have more training and be more strict on such dangerous situations.
@@kaylarayla_you realize not all cops are poorly trained and some have saved lives and protected us so please don’t have this mindset about all police as I have many family members who are cops and are GREAT people and everyone is different on the way they work or treat others I don’t wanna be rude I just hate when people think this about cops(:
I fell asleep at the wheel drunk after a concert and hit someone infront of me and cops ripped me out of the car and had me do the whole sobriety field test infront of an entire parking lot of concert goers and I failed miserably, but they let me go anyways because I promised I was “just tired”
Still my fault and responsibility though. Can’t just blame someone else for your own decision