I found this 7 dvd series called Legend of Condor Hero at Goodwill and enjoyed it very much! Definitely seems like it was a stepping stone for the Chinese market :)
Thanks so much for this. It was great! Have you read Rolf Giesen’s Chinese Animation: A History and Filmography, 1922-2012? It has other examples of Chinese animation as well!
They're just a few decades behind but they'll catch up. Russia and Germany were in the same pickle during the Iron curtain era until it finally came down. After that, it was nearly, and I'm stretching the nearly, easy picking to get their animation and movie works back on track.
Yeah that "Supersoap" short would make someone think it might've came from the 60's the way it's executed (I reminded myself of USSR's Soyuzmultfilm studios, which unlike China, started cultivating more mature, contemporary works starting in the 60's with animators like Fyodor Khtruk and Yuri Norstein. It's a shame Mao didn't see potential in animation during his final years).
Yes, I am enjoying it and looking forward to the rest of season 5 and also check out 9 Songs of the Heavens which appears to be a prequel. Just have to wait for mooncakes to translate. Can you address why it's hard to get chinese and some Japanese anime here in the States?
Sweet, I'll check it out when I get some time. My guess would be lack of awareness for certain series or just the fan base is too small to warrant an official translation or fan sub. It's a pitty, but it's the same with a lot of books and manga I have been waiting for ages to read a translated version of the series which inspired crouching tiger hidden dragon....
Chinese animation has always been one of my fav subjects as well as the Shanghai Republican Period movies. I hope you have been to the China National Film Museum in Beijing where there are some of the original cells from the great projects of the 50's and 60's as well as the 80's. One thing I found fascinating, the nerd that I am, was the head of the snipe in 鹬蚌相争 (The Fight Between the Snipe and Clam 1983) was a separate piece of celluloid over the celluloid body so it could peck and cock its head to save time in redrawing cells. Go visit the museum there if you can. Maybe you can do something about the famed stars of the 20's and 30s.
I love this kind of stuff too, and I've seen most of the animations shown here and I'll give the ones I haven't seen a watch sometime. My favorite types are the ones drawn in traditional painting style, because they usually have very beautiful animation and music and good stories. It's sad that the government stifled the artist's creativity during the cultural revolution, and tried to replace art with crappy propaganda. If I were one of them, I would've risked getting arrested by continuing to produce good quality cartoons while finding a clever way to poke fun at the Communists and spread the message of freedom at the same time; and then I'd try to save them from getting destroyed, and spread them all over the world. I may have this attitude because I'm American, but still even if I was Chinese I would do that if I was an animator that is.
If you come across any new information on China's ACGN industries, please let me know. Next year I will be speaking at Silicon Dragon's LA event, specifically on this subject.
My pleasure, there were quite a few others but I think those should be the most interesting if you are wanting to go deeper. Let me know if you want to know the rest, and I'll see if I still have them written down somewhere :)
Very fascinating! It would seem that the cultural revolution had stagnated the progression of animation in China. I hope new artists are born in other countries so that the power house animators (Japan & USA) have competition. However with that being said, China is still a country full of censorship and propaganda, thus it will be difficult for a liberal artist with a liberal animation film to be present. Keep on coming with them videos son keep up the good work. -CJ
Thanks CJ, the response from this video has been good so I might look at more modern topics in upcoming videos. I totally agree, more competition from other cultures is always great and gives a lot of unique perspectives and styles :)
It's a super tough language, I started taking Chinese classes recently to get my level higher and fix my bad habits. My second channel has a video about how I learned Chinese, it might be able to give you some insight :) th-cam.com/video/QVLLw7GqovY/w-d-xo.html
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In 2023 there's going to be a wukong game released at this date, made by chinese company... And what I've seen so far it's looking very, very good.. ☀️🐺🌙🐺
There at least seems to be an interest in how to collaborate and commercialize it to some extent. That's how we ended up with Dreamworks' Chinese studio ("Oriental Dreamworks") or a Chinese graphic novel that was adapted into an animated feature a few years back (Rock Dog, albeit, not very successful), though that was animated by a studio in Texas. Such collaborations and outsource production pipelines seem to be trend that has gotten pretty extensive in later years, often these are made to ensure getting the film or series greenlit in China for having Chinese involvement on said production (much like the Canadian content rules governing programs made and aired in Canada). I think what really needs to happen is for someone to setup a studio that provides something of a shield behind any sort of restriction as long as artists felt appreciated to do their own thing. Something like a Zagreb Film (one of my favorite studios).
Coming from 2021, and judging from the announced future projects, I can say Chinese donghua is entering the big leagues.
Thank you for making this. The video was really fascinating and well-made, congrats!
Thank you for watching Hazel, really enjoyed making this one :)
The favorite Chinese animations can be found inside of Chinese media like weibo
Thanks for putting this together dude.. loved the knowledge..also the new animations to checkout with your inserts ;)
Great video :D
No problem man, glad you liked it! Yeah definitely check out some of the newer animations, they are really cool
Thank you, WooKong!
Thank you too!
Great video bro!!!
China has some master piece that MUST BE watched!
Totally, some of the newer animated movies are really great too.
WooKong .China have potential
A huge amount of potential :)
Awesome video man. I feel like learned a lot about a subject I would have otherwise totally overlooked.
Thanks man, surprised other people are as interested in it as I am :)
Chinese animation is getting more popular in recent years, specifically Chinese anime.
Anime and Chinese animation are different
@ I know it’s called Donghua
That was really well made. I've never heard anything on this topic, so this was very interesting.
Thanks Jackmeister, glad you enjoyed it :)
I checked out your channel too, super interesting stuff!
Great video as always. Can't wait for the next one!
Thanks SECONDQUEST, really do appreaciate it :)
Fun Fact: Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf, and Happy Heroes is always get mentioned in website called TV Tropes wiki
2019's NeZha film is also definitely worth watching. as well as the 3D animation for legend of the white snake"
Princess Iron Fan is sooo throwing shade... haha
I found this 7 dvd series called Legend of Condor Hero at Goodwill and enjoyed it very much! Definitely seems like it was a stepping stone for the Chinese market :)
Super Interesting. Thanks for this video. I learned a lot from it.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it :)
Very similar to what's happening in Hollywood right now. We are around 4:00 now.
Donghua animes biggest rival
Thanks so much for this. It was great! Have you read Rolf Giesen’s
Chinese Animation: A History and Filmography, 1922-2012? It has other examples of Chinese animation as well!
My pleasure, thanks for watching QueenAdela! I haven't had the chance to read that one, I have heard of it though :)
They're just a few decades behind but they'll catch up. Russia and Germany were in the same pickle during the Iron curtain era until it finally came down. After that, it was nearly, and I'm stretching the nearly, easy picking to get their animation and movie works back on track.
Fascinating. Thanks!
My pleasure :)
I remember watching all Chinese television shows on Home video when was young including black cat Detective
Nicely done. Are the side by sides of the western and Chinese animations from the same time?
Yep all from the same years, except for the supersoap cartoon which actually came out a year after castle in the sky.
Yeah that "Supersoap" short would make someone think it might've came from the 60's the way it's executed (I reminded myself of USSR's Soyuzmultfilm studios, which unlike China, started cultivating more mature, contemporary works starting in the 60's with animators like Fyodor Khtruk and Yuri Norstein. It's a shame Mao didn't see potential in animation during his final years).
Thank you for sharing, I enjoyed the information. Currently watching Qin's Moon and enjoying it!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it! I haven't watched Qin's Moon, do you reccomend it?
Yes, I am enjoying it and looking forward to the rest of season 5 and also check out 9 Songs of the Heavens which appears to be a prequel. Just have to wait for mooncakes to translate. Can you address why it's hard to get chinese and some Japanese anime here in the States?
Sweet, I'll check it out when I get some time. My guess would be lack of awareness for certain series or just the fan base is too small to warrant an official translation or fan sub. It's a pitty, but it's the same with a lot of books and manga I have been waiting for ages to read a translated version of the series which inspired crouching tiger hidden dragon....
Interesting.
Great video. Thank you.
Thank you for watching Leszek, this is by far the video the video I'm most proud of :)
Chinese animation has always been one of my fav subjects as well as the Shanghai Republican Period movies. I hope you have been to the China National Film Museum in Beijing where there are some of the original cells from the great projects of the 50's and 60's as well as the 80's. One thing I found fascinating, the nerd that I am, was the head of the snipe in 鹬蚌相争 (The Fight Between the Snipe and Clam 1983) was a separate piece of celluloid over the celluloid body so it could peck and cock its head to save time in redrawing cells. Go visit the museum there if you can. Maybe you can do something about the famed stars of the 20's and 30s.
Even though it's not too far from where I live I heard about it till now. I'll go there and check it out, thanks Zhu Bajie!
I love this kind of stuff too, and I've seen most of the animations shown here and I'll give the ones I haven't seen a watch sometime. My favorite types are the ones drawn in traditional painting style, because they usually have very beautiful animation and music and good stories. It's sad that the government stifled the artist's creativity during the cultural revolution, and tried to replace art with crappy propaganda. If I were one of them, I would've risked getting arrested by continuing to produce good quality cartoons while finding a clever way to poke fun at the Communists and spread the message of freedom at the same time; and then I'd try to save them from getting destroyed, and spread them all over the world. I may have this attitude because I'm American, but still even if I was Chinese I would do that if I was an animator that is.
well said :)
Great overview on the 2D Culture industries.
Thanks Ryan, this is honestly my most favourite video :)
If you come across any new information on China's ACGN industries, please let me know. Next year I will be speaking at Silicon Dragon's LA event, specifically on this subject.
Thanks for providing the sources
My pleasure, there were quite a few others but I think those should be the most interesting if you are wanting to go deeper. Let me know if you want to know the rest, and I'll see if I still have them written down somewhere :)
@@WooKong that would be amazing! Trying to get my hands on anything wukong in English and or Chinese
@@WooKong I'm currently writing a thesis on it. I take any help and inspiration I can get.
Very fascinating!
It would seem that the cultural revolution had stagnated the progression of animation in China.
I hope new artists are born in other countries so that the power house animators (Japan & USA) have competition.
However with that being said, China is still a country full of censorship and propaganda, thus it will be difficult for a liberal artist with a liberal animation film to be present.
Keep on coming with them videos son keep up the good work.
-CJ
Thanks CJ, the response from this video has been good so I might look at more modern topics in upcoming videos. I totally agree, more competition from other cultures is always great and gives a lot of unique perspectives and styles :)
I think i left a comment before and it got removed so i just wanna say this is a great video again lol
Thanks again~
Good video. Surprised you did not mention King's Avatar.
Thanks 426mak, yeah I should have found a way to squeeze that in. I haven't watched much of it, but I hear it's getting super popular.
Awesome video my job at my job is going well at fuyao but I struggle even learning simple words in Mandarin
Hi Ragin Caucasion, long time no see. Glad you are doing well :) Do you have many opportunities to speak and listen?
It's a super tough language, I started taking Chinese classes recently to get my level higher and fix my bad habits. My second channel has a video about how I learned Chinese, it might be able to give you some insight :) th-cam.com/video/QVLLw7GqovY/w-d-xo.html
That was fun!
Very nice!
Thanks Divayth!
Спасибо.
It is interesting
Im finalIy back
Long time no see, should have a new video up this week :)
Ima be ready then
The wait is over ;)
WooKong ready watched...
Battle through the heavens best .
QUEEN MEDUSA ❤️👸
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I know in Japan animation is called anime but what is this called in China?
chinese animation is categorized as donghua 动画 (literally moving pictures, or animation)
In 2023 there's going to be a wukong game released at this date, made by chinese company... And what I've seen so far it's looking very, very good..
☀️🐺🌙🐺
China has so much more potential in creativity if it weren't for the restrictions.
Can't even imagine what they could create if given the ability
True having said that its more complicated
Yeah it's going to be interesting what happens in the future. The progression of restricted art.
It's a Shame that Ripping off American Cinema is how Mainstream viewed China.
There at least seems to be an interest in how to collaborate and commercialize it to some extent. That's how we ended up with Dreamworks' Chinese studio ("Oriental Dreamworks") or a Chinese graphic novel that was adapted into an animated feature a few years back (Rock Dog, albeit, not very successful), though that was animated by a studio in Texas. Such collaborations and outsource production pipelines seem to be trend that has gotten pretty extensive in later years, often these are made to ensure getting the film or series greenlit in China for having Chinese involvement on said production (much like the Canadian content rules governing programs made and aired in Canada).
I think what really needs to happen is for someone to setup a studio that provides something of a shield behind any sort of restriction as long as artists felt appreciated to do their own thing. Something like a Zagreb Film (one of my favorite studios).
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