I use to live in Lake Placid NY and loved seeing these old wooden beauties blast up and down the lake. There was a business there that restored these boats. Hope this one was salvaged!
When that boat is restored it will be like that axe that has been in my family for three generations. It has only had two new heads and three new handles.
Waterline rot is the scourge of all wooden boats,wood that's always underwater no real problem,wood that's always dry the same,it's the constant soaking and drying that's the problem,this boat deserves to be repaired but only by an experienced professional builder of wooden boats,it will be expensive.
@@AmesiesCorner Not everyone on TH-cam is a "content creator". Some people are content consumers. As the consumer, we expect a level of quality put forth by the creator. If that level of quality is not met, it is our right to complain. After all without the consumer, creators will not have an audience.
Oh that poor old girl. Topsides look good, so someone has been neglecting below the waterline. A skilled boatwright could have her back up and running in no time, but it’ll cost big 💵
@@herbertgarrison6548 I’m very familiar with wooden boats, thanks. That was simply a figure of speech; it would take a team of skilled boatwrights quite a long while to repair, but I wasn’t kidding about costing big 💵.
A great safe operation that’s for sure guys. Love to see that the boat lives to see more adventures, it’s a beautiful boat 👍🏻👍🏻Well done to all involved.
Really beautiful classic woody! Looks like she just rotted right out from within without anyone really seeing it. Probably didn't take much before she split up like that. I bet she went down FAST too.😳 Really cool recovery!👍
It appears to be lifted out of the water too quickly. While water is still pouring out the stern vents the crane operator is still lifting. Should have used pumps as soon as the tension came on the slings I think
I was wondering if they had hit a floating log to punch a hole in the bottom to sink it. After seeing how the planking burst at the chine, I imagine the original hole was just from slapping the water while motoring around, then sinking it. It's been three years now, so maybe they have restored it.
Started watching the video, then said to myself I'll be dipped, know that place, that's the St. Lawrence, then that's the Canadian channel near the Navy Fleet Islands. Great recovery!
if you do a lot of small boat recovery. you may want to invest in some 4 or 6" flex hose... and probably 10 feet of similar sized PCV or ABS pipe.. and a 90 ell and a 45 ell.. place a 2 foot piece of pipe between the 45 and 90.. the long piece of straight into the 90.. and the flex hose into the 45.. if you throw this siphon set up over the side of the cockpit or engine bay.. as long as you have installed it and purged it of air before you lift the boat slightly above water.. it will self start a siphon and really empty the hull fast.. you can put a clean out fitting in the 2 foot long piece between the elbows.. to allow you to purge the air.. you could do this with just a single 90 ell.. with the straight pipe dangling and the flex pipe into the bilge.. what to use for flex tubing.. 20 bucks at homedepot.. www.homedepot.com/p/FLEX-Drain-4-in-x-25-ft-Solid-Polypropylene-Pipe-52110D/202745403 how fast will a 4" hose siphon the water out of a bilge..
@@Shornandkenny These classic wooden boats are beautiful. But this is why I prefer aluminum. Even many fiberglass boats have a lot of wood in the structure. As a homeowner, and someone that has maintained rental property, I've battled water damaged wood for decades. For exterior trim and repairs, I now use synthetic materials as much as possible.
Looks like she hit a deadhead or log that holed the hull. The rest of the damage was nodoubt old age. Needs a chine and frames plus planks and a refasten at a minimum. 40 years ago I might have taken this on but not at my age now. Love to see her when you're done!
Excellent video - Covid-19 Plandemic locked down here in Massachusetts this was fun to watch. What I see is an amazing looking boat that will take $100,000 worth of highly skilled labor to restore.
I remember seeing this boat some 20 years ago in Alexandria Bay, New York. Thousand Islands region. It was built by the Hutchinson boat yard. Hence the name. (also it looked like furniture)
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada how much would this recovery cost from start to finish and what paper work is required thanks for the presentation
So what happened to the boat? I have watched quite a few of these boat salvage videos and information always gets real sketchy about who owns what, who pays what and what becomes of these boats after the cameras are turned off.
It's a beautiful boat. Do you ever know what happened to these boats? It's been 4 years, was it restored? I think it would be interesting to know the fate of some salvaged ships!
Jeeze....A someone who just squeaked by passing a course on wooden boats 101, a quick poke here and there with a pick awl would have kept that piece of rotten wood from seeing a drop of water! Water tight as a screen door!
I think that split was caused by lifting it too fast and not supporting the bottom. The weight of the water just pushed the bottom away from the sides. You can tell the water was high up in the hull because it was pouring out of the vents at the rear. The wood might have been rotten too, which would not have helped.
How long was it on the bottom for? Did you find it by chance or did it belong to a friend of yours? Do you have to jump through any hoops to keep it or is it straight up finders keepers.
The bottom was all ready rotting between layers of the bottom wood owners got an Estimate to fix it found out cost more than the boat , then takes it out wide open bounces it a few times and instant hole and insurance check.
That huge gash is from the crane operator lifting the boat out when it was still full of water. The enormous extra weight disintegrated the structure. Should have someone less trigger happy operate the lift next time.
I wonder if some plywood screwed over the hole would have allowed you to pump out the boat while it was still on the water? Seems like you wouldn't wanna lift a boat when it's filled with water, the bottom may come out of any boat, much less one with rot. Select sizes of plywood with screws partially driven in, and a cordless drill that works under water........
My great grandpa built boats near the River edge well before it was made back when it was a pancake hose if i remember wright. I use to get rides in the Riot delivering news papers in the 60's. If i remember wright Hutchinson worked for the Duclon's in the early to mid 1900's.
That travelift operator did more damage than the initial sinking. Wooden boats aren’t built to hold water, they are built to keep the water out. Lifting it with the hull filled with water like that will just rip the planking apart like it did. So much for “professionals”.
So the lift operator was responsible for the rotten hull was he ? That hull has been in that condition for a long while & only a fool would take that on water. From an insurance standpoint, that boat was an expensive damaged mess the moment it sank, so any damage done during salvage is irrelevant.
I was there when it was pulled out there was a lot of discussion on how to get it out. You can’t keep the water out of boat that size with the huge holes in the hull. So they did the best they could with the given situation.
Tough situation, can’t keep it in the water and pump it to alleviate pressure , you’d have to drain the river lol ! I don’t know what else they could have done, looks like they kept it as low in the water as possible while it drained.
@@Chris-jm4zk raising it slower allowing the water to drain out of the existing hole would have likely caused less damage but as mentioned it was rotted already so a moot point.
No one checked to see if any rot had set in before taking her out... Looks like teak which is one of the best woods but you still need to check them every year.
I use to live in Lake Placid NY and loved seeing these old wooden beauties blast up and down the lake. There was a business there that restored these boats. Hope this one was salvaged!
When that boat is restored it will be like that axe that has been in my family for three generations. It has only had two new heads and three new handles.
The hammer of Theseus😂
@@TheRandompaintit's known as the Ship of Theseus
@@michaelruane8793 I'm aware, the original comment was talking about a hammer.
Nice!
Sad to see a classic like this but good to see it salvaged to hopefully be restored
Waterline rot is the scourge of all wooden boats,wood that's always underwater no real problem,wood that's always dry the same,it's the constant soaking and drying that's the problem,this boat deserves to be repaired but only by an experienced professional builder of wooden boats,it will be expensive.
A little flex tape and she's good as new !!
Ha! I thought that too!
flex tape won't work this time because the boat wasn't sawed in half.
I spit my coffee out reading this comment, well done 👍
Me too. I would have commented had I not read 3 comments down to your comment. Hs hs
Awesome sound quality. I actually heard a few spoken words.
Commented like someone who has never contributed content...
Make some TH-cam videos and you will inevitably have this happen to you.
Go find a doctor
@@saidantonioli2303 Gotta love a good sense of humor.
@@AmesiesCorner Not everyone on TH-cam is a "content creator". Some people are content consumers. As the consumer, we expect a level of quality put forth by the creator. If that level of quality is not met, it is our right to complain. After all without the consumer, creators will not have an audience.
@@jimmac1185 Spoken like someone who has never made any content. We don't always make our videos for you.
Oh that poor old girl. Topsides look good, so someone has been neglecting below the waterline. A skilled boatwright could have her back up and running in no time, but it’ll cost big 💵
in no time? you clearly aren't familiar with wooden boats.
@@herbertgarrison6548 I’m very familiar with wooden boats, thanks. That was simply a figure of speech; it would take a team of skilled boatwrights quite a long while to repair, but I wasn’t kidding about costing big 💵.
At least it wasn’t salt water!
@UncaDave actually if it was salt water it would have been fine. Most wooden boats on salt water rot from the top down, I.e. rainwater.
Rotten to the core ?
Very cool to watch, shame about the hull being so rotten below the waterline, this is why I'm glad I don't have a wood boat!
A great safe operation that’s for sure guys. Love to see that the boat lives to see more adventures, it’s a beautiful boat 👍🏻👍🏻Well done to all involved.
Really beautiful classic woody! Looks like she just rotted right out from within without anyone really seeing it. Probably didn't take much before she split up like that. I bet she went down FAST too.😳 Really cool recovery!👍
Thanks 😊
Fresh water is the killer of many a handsome wooden vessel
@@killyourtelllievision Salt water doesn't rot wood.
@@killyourtelllievision not for wood..your sorley mistaken..
@@leejohnson6173
Thank you Sir.
I stand corrected.
Great job Ed! Thanks for the good conversation this afternoon. Have a great day Sir!
thanks Tom
Always something eerie about a sunk boat!
It appears to be lifted out of the water too quickly. While water is still pouring out the stern vents the crane operator is still lifting. Should have used pumps as soon as the tension came on the slings I think
Looking at how it split i would say that was only the final nail in the coffin. I'm guessing it already had serious issues.
It was held together by her hull paint. Needs a complete tear down to ribs and re-skinned. Welcome to wooden boats
Ahhh but that 30 minutes when everything is perfect.........then the owner gets it. (sigh)
That is what I was thinking to much stress on the frame and hull and busted out the bottom
I was wondering if they had hit a floating log to punch a hole in the bottom to sink it. After seeing how the planking burst at the chine, I imagine the original hole was just from slapping the water while motoring around, then sinking it. It's been three years now, so maybe they have restored it.
Started watching the video, then said to myself I'll be dipped, know that place, that's the St. Lawrence, then that's the Canadian channel near the Navy Fleet Islands. Great recovery!
Thanks.. definitely easier then the uncle sams boat two weeks ago!! Sadly she was very rotten but believe it still worth rebuilding.
A new money pit brought ashore!
maybe to you
Did it hit a iceberg?
Now that’s a fun and exciting yet very profitable business Ed Duda !!
I can see the ad now - "mint condition, captain maintained since new, owner will consider offers!"
Freshly washed.
jmj002vp just needs a coat of wax
I was thinking flex tape!! 😳
Slightly damp.
Skis optional
I would never have thought you can get firewood from the bottom of an ocean or lake.
You learn something every day 😂
if you do a lot of small boat recovery. you may want to invest in some 4 or 6" flex hose... and probably 10 feet of similar sized PCV or ABS pipe.. and a 90 ell and a 45 ell.. place a 2 foot piece of pipe between the 45 and 90.. the long piece of straight into the 90.. and the flex hose into the 45.. if you throw this siphon set up over the side of the cockpit or engine bay.. as long as you have installed it and purged it of air before you lift the boat slightly above water.. it will self start a siphon and really empty the hull fast.. you can put a clean out fitting in the 2 foot long piece between the elbows.. to allow you to purge the air.. you could do this with just a single 90 ell.. with the straight pipe dangling and the flex pipe into the bilge.. what to use for flex tubing.. 20 bucks at homedepot.. www.homedepot.com/p/FLEX-Drain-4-in-x-25-ft-Solid-Polypropylene-Pipe-52110D/202745403 how fast will a 4" hose siphon the water out of a bilge..
Of course, this boat already had drainage!
First comment from someone who is thinking straight!
Nice to see it restored.
What did this cost new back then. Was she made out of Teake Wood! Will there be follow up vids as she progresses. There a class all there own.
The THREE happiest moments for a boat owner - when he buys it, when he sells it, when he gets the insurance check!
Only for people who have to pay someone else to maintain them.
Boating isn't for everyone but real lovers never say that.
@@Shornandkenny These classic wooden boats are beautiful. But this is why I prefer aluminum. Even many fiberglass boats have a lot of wood in the structure. As a homeowner, and someone that has maintained rental property, I've battled water damaged wood for decades. For exterior trim and repairs, I now use synthetic materials as much as possible.
@@sunbeam8866 I have a gorgeous 1955 feathercraft vagabond
Edit: it's all polished aluminum and will run all day on 25 bux worth of fuel. 😁
We’re you able to restore this boat
Yes.
easy repair and it will be as good as new , but they should do a total rebuild and it will become better than when it was built , so glad it was saved
Well, it's been three years since this video was published. Was it salvaged or scrapped?
She's ready for a proper triple plank epoxy-mahogany bottom. Better than new.
Very cool video. I'm curious how much those lift bags cost and what was the compressor you used for them?
Nice job Ed... saving this beauty!
I can see the Craigslist ad now. "Ran when parked".
parked underwater
Looks like she hit a deadhead or log that holed the hull. The rest of the damage was nodoubt old age. Needs a chine and frames plus planks and a refasten at a minimum. 40 years ago I might have taken this on but not at my age now. Love to see her when you're done!
Excellent video - Covid-19 Plandemic locked down here in Massachusetts this was fun to watch. What I see is an amazing looking boat that will take $100,000 worth of highly skilled labor to restore.
pffft no way
Take a zero off. THEN and only after would it ever dream of getting 100k at any auction. Certainly devalued having viewed the lake from the bottom
I remember seeing this boat some 20 years ago in Alexandria Bay, New York. Thousand Islands region. It was built by the Hutchinson boat yard. Hence the name. (also it looked like furniture)
Wow, I bet she was a jewel! Sadly the bottom was completely rotten. Hopefully she is being rebuilt.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada how much would this recovery cost from start to finish and what paper work is required thanks for the presentation
Hope yall picked up the stuff that was beside the boat up too
10:08 Nothing like gaping holes in the hull to provide good drainage! Did you also pick up any of that garbage visible at 1:29?
GREAT VID!!!! AND AWESOME JOB!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
That my marina Bonnie Castle. Rock on!!! Heard about that wasn’t around to see it. Glad you filmed it
Do u know what happened to cause sinking?
T1000 is coming! Not sure really. Rumor it was done intentionally. No proof of that as of yet. From what I saw it wasn’t maintained very well
Huge amount of work = huge $$$ to get that back into serviceable use.
The great thing about wooden boats is they can ALWAYS be fixed. It will take time and money but it can be done.
there was a lot of stuff on lake bottom, speakers shirt, bottles. did that stuff just stay there.
Absolutely Not… it was all picked up!! Thanks for the comment.
Looks like a well loved boat
That’s Ben Gardners boat….That’s Ben Gardeners boat!
Aye.
🤪
There's also a wooden speed boat that has a wooden frame around the windshield in lake Mead still have the outboard attached to it from the 30s
Has it been restored?
Would like to see this one fixed
So what happened to the boat? I have watched quite a few of these boat salvage videos and information always gets real sketchy about who owns what, who pays what and what becomes of these boats after the cameras are turned off.
So where does my boat sank fit into the old saying of “the best days of boat ownership are the day you buy it and the day you sell it”?
Can we get an update? Seeing this four years later.
What caused it to sink? Was Captain Morgan at t helm?
Maybe you didn't see the entire bottom was rotted
all that work polishing those fixtures on top of a boat with rotten planks under the waterline.
Turn up your volume so we can hear you better
WOW epic boat salvage! Look us up if your ever in Fort Worth Texas!
Thank you... and definitely
Need an update!
I’ll ask around and see what is going on with it.
Depending on the damage, it may not leak when you get it out. That things swelled up now.
Curious to know how long it was down there and how you discovered it down there.
I believe 3 days.
@@edduda3 seriously, only 3 days?
@@edduda3 wood got rotten in 3 days ?
Yes, if the audio was audible we might be able to learn some stuff. The video was great, but audio was awful.
@@pccalcio No. The rotten wood sank her!
Did anyone pick up the junk laying on the ground around the boat?
Yes sir... even a flip-flop came back.
So why did it sink then? That long hole sure was not there when they left. Did they hit something?
It's a beautiful boat. Do you ever know what happened to these boats? It's been 4 years, was it restored? I think it would be interesting to know the fate of some salvaged ships!
looks like the varnish and bottom paint were the only thing holding that old tub together. Separate the metal and fire pit the rest.
Monk Denton the bottom is definitely rotten but it’s an a woody from Alexandria Bay.. so probably worth the $$$ to fix.
Snake Mt Boatworks in VT could rebuild her like new. Amazing craftsmen.
@@edduda3 What were the economics of lifting the Hutch? Do you own it now? What will you do with it?
@@edduda3 ... likely worth bigger bucks when all done!
Jeeze....A someone who just squeaked by passing a course on wooden boats 101, a quick poke here and there with a pick awl would have kept that piece of rotten wood from seeing a drop of water! Water tight as a screen door!
Give us more details. Was the boat surveyed recently?
What depth is IT there?
Why even post it without sound?
Very nice recovery guys very professional maybe some day we can install these babes on aircraft flotation
I think that split was caused by lifting it too fast and not supporting the bottom. The weight of the water just pushed the bottom away from the sides. You can tell the water was high up in the hull because it was pouring out of the vents at the rear. The wood might have been rotten too, which would not have helped.
Great job! At 6:40 remember "Jaws"!
Is that ben gardeners boat ?
@@ktmbikes9227 YES!!
Nice little winter project for someone.
Any more video on her rebuild? Who is doing it?
Wow. Might take a bit but she's a beauty. Keep us posted, please. (Subscribed)
How long was it on the bottom for? Did you find it by chance or did it belong to a friend of yours? Do you have to jump through any hoops to keep it or is it straight up finders keepers.
Only a few days and it was salvage for the owners insurance company. No finders keepers on this. Thanks for the reply.
How deep was the water?
The bottom was all ready rotting between layers of the bottom wood owners got an Estimate to fix it found out cost more than the boat , then takes it out wide open bounces it a few times and instant hole and insurance check.
That's a perfectly logical explanation and the only realistic one I've heard yet cause somebody has to take the skipper home
That huge gash is from the crane operator lifting the boat out when it was still full of water. The enormous extra weight disintegrated the structure. Should have someone less trigger happy operate the lift next time.
Plainly, the bilges were rotten!
What a shame such a beautiful boat I do hope she's salvageable their some awesome boats if properly cared for.
That is where my wooden boat leak, yeah it sank, but the ropes saved it from the bottom.
I wonder if some plywood screwed over the hole would have allowed you to pump out the boat while it was still on the water? Seems like you wouldn't wanna lift a boat when it's filled with water, the bottom may come out of any boat, much less one with rot. Select sizes of plywood with screws partially driven in, and a cordless drill that works under water........
Hallo from Germany behinde 3 Years has this Boat a 2 nd live ?
When did it sink
Went to high school with friend last name Hutchinson. Nick name , Hutch..52 years ago hope still afloat.
Reckon the anti fouling bottom paint was the only thing holding the bilge of that boat together.
Where are you guys located at this site if you can say where that is deep lake
Love all the comments of “easy repair”..
what was the final outcome ?
Such a beautifully built boat what happened to her
My great grandpa built boats near the River edge well before it was made back when it was a pancake hose if i remember wright. I use to get rides in the Riot delivering news papers in the 60's. If i remember wright Hutchinson worked for the Duclon's in the early to mid 1900's.
2 reasons for sinking. 1 naturaly the holes in the hull. however, the main reason is zero foam for boyancy in case of hull breach.
And don't forget the insurance money!
Name another boat with foam in it built in the early 40’s?? It’s not a Boston whaler…
You could try buffing it
A easy job
Edit : very well raised and salvaged
Nice recovery 👍👍 With the right skills & tools she can be repaired $$$ Oh yea & 💰 money.
where have u been?
Health issues.. healing up and getting ready to dive back in!! Will get a new vid out from a drone recovery soon. Thanks for asking
@@edduda3 oh hope it goes well!
That travelift operator did more damage than the initial sinking. Wooden boats aren’t built to hold water, they are built to keep the water out. Lifting it with the hull filled with water like that will just rip the planking apart like it did. So much for “professionals”.
So the lift operator was responsible for the rotten hull was he ?
That hull has been in that condition for a long while & only a fool would take that on water.
From an insurance standpoint, that boat was an expensive damaged mess the moment it sank, so any damage done during salvage is irrelevant.
I was there when it was pulled out there was a lot of discussion on how to get it out. You can’t keep the water out of boat that size with the huge holes in the hull. So they did the best they could with the given situation.
Tough situation, can’t keep it in the water and pump it to alleviate pressure , you’d have to drain the river lol ! I don’t know what else they could have done, looks like they kept it as low in the water as possible while it drained.
@@Chris-jm4zk raising it slower allowing the water to drain out of the existing hole would have likely caused less damage but as mentioned it was rotted already so a moot point.
There was no saving that hull.
What's the back story, how did it wind-up at the bottom of the bay?
Did you watch the video?
This was down the street from me! Sweet!!
nice!!
Boarders are closed... how did you manage that?
Connections 😉
How deep was the boat?
25-30 foot. Not very deep...
did they rename it to "Firewood"
Alan McEwen lol no way... it’s a classic and a boat!!! Open check book!!! 🤪
Ed., do you know what BOAT is an anachronism for, "bring out another thousand"
@@edduda3 Boat = A hole in the water you fill with money.
Freshly varnished rotten wood?
How deep was it at the wreck site?
No one checked to see if any rot had set in before taking her out... Looks like teak which is one of the best woods but you still need to check them every year.
You should give Carter bags a try. Just a suggestion.
Is it even worth fixing?