Hungover and an allergic reaction !! I'm still hungover from 2 nights ago. Lol I love watching your reaction to HOTD. Just wanted to let you know your doing great and I appreciate it.
more info on caraxes: caraxas aka “the blood wrym” has a mutation. he is extremely moody, intelligent, very swift and fierce and not well-liked by other dragons except he does have a bond with Syrax (rhaenyra’s dragon). Also he has a deviated septum from a previous battle with his last rider which is why he sounds that way. Daemon and Caraxes are avatars of each other and share a very strong bond.
The time segments on this video are hilarious 😂 I love your reactions swapping my from ‘I ship it…?’ To unease, then to happiness. I think that was definitely intended. I love how complicated this show is in morality. No one is really all good or all bad (yet at least) and it makes them all so compelling. Love your reaction, can’t wait for more!
Learned from a book reader in another reaction to this episode that the 2 guys that get in a fight during Rhaenyra's 'pageant' were from long feuding families... so they were gonna fight being in the same room whether the Princess was there or not. Thought it was fun information.
23:06 , Not exactly ...it was more of a Guilt feeling he got after seeing how important it was for Rhaenyra. Also someone on the show said he probably realised he genuinely had feelings for her.
It's beleived that besides then wanting to keep the Dragon Power within the Family, TARGARYENs are attracted to each other in many cases because of their blood magic as a biological side effect. Blood magic which allows them to bond with the dragons.
Haha, Oh yes! The show still is not representing them fully as in the books because PURPLE colour EYES are a Strong Targaryen feature but I've never seen the shows include that detail. I am not a book reader but I read online in a GOT website. I wish someone had the deep purple eyes.
Daemon deliberately made sure that both he and Rhaenyra were spotted in that brothel. He also knows that Mysaria is now running the "little birds" and he knows that Otto has spies everywhere all the time, but especially any time Otto is in town. He wanted to make a play for Rhaenyra's hand which would put him closer to the throne, just as Viserys put it together. Unfortunately for Otto, he wasn't looking to get Rhaenyra in trouble and didn't foresee her being caught up in the net he cast for Daemon, so he get's fired on an occasion when he was acting in good faith, which is why he was so disturbed to tell the King about it. Just FYI, that scene with V kicking D, and then going to strangle him and pulling the knife on him; those actions weren't in the original script, but Paddy and Matt decided to play it that way in rehearsal, and the director was smart enough to let it stay. Apparently, Paddy and Matt improvised and improved upon many scenes in this series and deserve so much credit for how brilliantly their characters turned out.
For context, the kid at the start was a Blackwood and the guy he killed was a Bracken. House Blackwood and House Bracken are two ancient neighboring houses in the Riverlands that have been feuding for centuries and take any excuse to kill each other.
The time stamp titles for this are just so glorious 😂 Also, Laenor is a "Ser", not yet a lord and certainly not a prince. The only ones outside of the royal lineage of the Iron Throne that are allowed to call themselves "Prince" are the Martell's of Sunspear (Dorne).
I really love the attention to detail this show puts into the dialog. To throw some analysis at the Rhaenyra and Alicent confrontation scene, Rhaenyra never "technically" lies. Even her claim that "he [Daemon] never touched me," is a euphemism for "we didn't have sex," which is in context for what she's being accused of. It doesn't literally mean, "we never kissed or had any other bodily contact." What Alicent interprets from that interplay, that Rhaenyra claims to still be a "maiden," is Alicent not listening closely enough. Alternatively, Viserys becomes convinced they did have sex because Daemon never explicitly denies it, exactly because Daemon wants Viserys to believe she's been "defiled" so that Viserys will agree to wed Rhaenyra to Daemon. However, Daemon never lies in that scene either. Even in the real world, people often interpret what others say incorrectly, and people also often say things vaguely exactly to mislead someone. But misleading someone isn't the same as lying.
It's lying by omission which is still lying. Rhaenyra understood that Alicent was really asking if she was still a "maiden", and kept silent about Criston
TL;DR: Alicent makes specific accusations. Rhaenyra truthfully answers those specific accusations. Alicent draws the wrong conclusions from Rhaenyra's answers. Different viewers will interpret the "morality" of what the characters did based on their (the viewers) own values, not on what factually happened in the scene. @@pr1ncess.d1e.h1gh this is why writing like this is compelling. Clearly, people draw certain conclusion using their own rubrics for what constitutes what. Here's my thinking; Alicent NEVER asks if Rhaenyra is still a maiden. Every single one of Alicent's sentences is specifically about Rhaenyra having sex with Daemon, and the major point Alicent makes, the crux of her distress, is about Targaryen incest, something that would only be possible in this scenario with Daemon. None of that is projection or drawing conclusions. That's all verifiable from the media. Getting away from "facts" and into analysis: Rhaenyra never "lied by omission" (which is an entirely different argument about whether or not that is a "lie," because it wouldn't require a qualifier if it already met the technical definition). Alicent's accusation was specifically stated as Rhaenyra having sex with Daemon, and that Rhaenyra had sex while out on the town with Daemon, neither of which were accurate. Alicent never asks, "So, just to make sure, you're claiming that you've never had sex with anyone, ever, at any time or anywhere, and that you still meet Westrosi cultural expectations of maidenhood?" I would argue that the burden of being accused of something shouldn't fall on the defendant to anticipate all possible permutations or implications of an accusation. Rhaenyra is obviously being careful with her wording, and in fact is visibly relieved in the scene when Alicent accuses her specifically of sleeping with Daemon rather than something like "having sex with someone." Rhaenyra ain't no dummy. So at best, someone could accuse her of being "manipulative," knowingly using what she understands of Alicent's thinking and wording to prevent disadvantaging herself. But that pits the moral position of "freely divulging explicit answers to unasked questions" against "is it moral for anyone to even be prying into someone's private business." Being "manipulative" has a decidedly negative connotation in the real world, but I'd argue that there's a giant moral difference between seeking to gain advantage at someone else's expense vs. seeking to defend yourself. I'll go back and rewatch that scene (though I've already watched it three times, twice specifically looking for this). As I recall, I don't think there is even a single sentence Alicent speaks which specifically inquires about a general "maiden-ness." It's all about Daemon, Daemon, Daemon (spoken in the Marsha, Marsha, Marsha voice from the Brady Bunch for extra hilarity).
yea this is what i really like about the scene too, which it seems like not everyone sees the same way. i think it is really clever writing and important that she isnt actually lying in this scene. you can have qualms with how she handles it of course, and im not going to claim it was a good idea to swear on her mother necessarily, but i think she only did that because at least in her eyes she wasnt lying. i do kinda wish she had said something like "daemon and i didnt have sex" rather than "daemon never touched me" simply so it would be a little less of a gray area for the viewer since you could interpret 'touch me' to cover what they did, and therefore a lie. that may have been the intention to make it a little blurry over whether it was a lie or not though, but i definitely think its important that there at least is AN interpretation where she isnt lying, and alicent just makes a logical fallacy conclusion from it when she retells it later.
@@Orwulf Agreed. And I do believe that was the entire intent of why the dialog was written exactly how it was. The strength of the story here relies on neither Rhaenyra nor Alicent being "good" or "bad." But both of them being "less than perfect" and having "conflicting values, perspectives, and behaviors." And I think the scene does that wonderfully.
Imo straight up lying to protect yourself makes you look better than a scheming sociopath who’s calculated the perfect lie to get themselves out of something. Indicates that Rhaenyra certainly isn’t the hero some make her out to be.
There are five kings named Aegon: 1. Aegon the Conqueror ( the 1st Aegon) 2. Aegon the Elder(Alicent's son) 3. Aegon the Dragonsbane (Rhaenyra's son) 4. Aegon the Unworthy 5. Aegon the Unlikely ( AKA Egg, maester Aemon's brother)
Just to clarify danearys only didn’t get burnt the one time when she hatched the dragons because of blood magic… she definitely can be burned in the books… George R R Martin was upset when they gave dany the title of unburned… he said in an a discussion with fans: “TARGERYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE”
@@antonytjp I get that this is an old comment, but I couldn't help myself. There's a lot you can think poorly about GoT. But I think "The Unburned" is definitely a title you would give to someone like Daenerys, even if it only happened once and she isn't otherwise immune from fire. It's such a big event, that it would have that impact on people.
@@emilbovbjerg oh yeah I agree with that for sure I’m not one to go crazy about these things it’s just the second time she did it on the tv show it in season 6 it disappointed George RR Martin because she would have died without blood magic.. season 5 is the last season that uses the books.. season 6,7 and 8 are extremely flawed
I really like the complicated story lines that are weaved together! The writing is pretty damn good! As you said, truths and lies that are spoken! Also there are no clear good or bad players! Reminds me of another show.. Saseke? Oyedeng Beltalowda!
*sings* Secret Tunnel ! Secret Tunnel ! About that: The red Keep was build with tons of secrets, tunnels and hidden stuff. They murdered everyone who constructed it afterwards to keep the secrets safe.
You're gonna go back and forth on Daemon a lot in this show. And I mean a LOT. But he's by far my favorite character in spite of his dubious moral flaws.
@@funnylilgalreacts My feelings for Daemon are tied up in my love for Matt Smith from his days on DW. I bend over backwards to see the good in Daemon and Prince Philip on The Crown even when they do very not nice things because I loved his Doctor so much.
All the Targaryens are "war" dragons, there personalities can differ but they only brought dragons that were bred for war when they fled the Doom so all the other types sadly are extinct.
As to the your comments about V's leprosy and the hunt, what Viserys has is an "unhealable" wound which has symbolic significance in the show, as well as medieval mythology in general. In the Arthurian romances, there is the character of the Fisher King, who also suffers from an unhealable wound, and obviously the health of the King is closely tied to the health of the Kingdom. Unless the Holy Grail can be restored through the quest of some brave knight, the King and Kingdom can not be healed and will continue to deteriorate. Unfortunately in Westeros, there is no "grail" (at least not until the events of ASOIAF) so Westeros will continue to "fall apart" over the next two centuries. As for the hunt, it's not really a hunt but a quasi-religious/political rite, which is why the King must kill the stag. Symbolically (and I think Viserys knows this in his heart) the stag (king of the forest) is the King, tied up, pulled in all directions, pinned down, and ultimately doomed suffer and to sacrifice his life to the realm. Unfortunately for Viserys, he will not be put out of his misery as quickly and mercifully as the stag.
I don't think Daemon was planning to self-sacrifice or anything like that. Right before the messenger showed up with news that Viserys was sending support, they were discussing a plan which required someone to bait out the crab feeder's men from their hiding spots. So it was always planned as a bluff and Daemon knew full well that the other men would attack at precisely the agreed-upon point. The men would have known what he was doing the moment he grabbed that white flag. He had no intention of dying.
Yes, it was the trap they had been discussing before the messenger arrived. Daemon knew the other soldiers and the dragon were coming; he was stalling for time.
Did *you* see the tapestries? You really should see the tapestries. I was shocked! Shocked , I tell you! But seriously, all joking aside, I was actually a bit surprised when I noticed them in the previous episode. So I got a chuckle when they mentioned them in this one. I shouldn't have been surprised though, after all, it is HBO.
I really loved this episode but on the subject of tiny things that bug me, at 28:58, Viserys heats up and then resheaths a red-hot blade into a leather sheath. I've seen the ep twice on my own and that part just kills me.
Maybe Valryan steel heats up and cools down differently from normal steel. Since it's a mythical element, you can't exactly dispute or refute that possibility.
i always wonder why so few people pick up on the reason why Rhaenyra and Ser Criston Cole cant become a couple. He is sworn to the kings guard that means he violated his oath by having sex with her. That might mean shit today for us, but in this society it is punishable by death, Eve if that could be avoided, Rhaenyra position is already precarious. She marrying a dishonored kings guard would make it even worse
You have to watch a movie called South Park Bigger, Longer and Uncut because it has the song called uncle fucker which did predict that moment between Rhaenyra and Daemon Targaryen
Don't feel bad about not understanding the opening credits. It took me just about as long to figure it out as well. In Game of Thrones The credits were based off of The map of westeros and the locations in the episode. Because we were following the different moves all the players were making in the game. But this is House of the Dragon. We aren't following the game we're following the family. I have a theory that I'm too lazy to try and confirm. But all the little badges or gold circles that the blood Runs into are all the other families that have married into the targaryen family.
I love you Daemon ( a second later ) Daemon, burn in hell. That's why I love him as a character. In fact, in this episode Daemon had a plan to get Viserys to marry them, he failed to defame Rhaenyra because he didnt expect her to be so much involved in this process and because he felt that it was wrong to do it with her, since obviously he cares about her
It shows he has a bit of a conscience, but not really all that admirable. I know the last thing he wants to do is hurt his family and I think in that moment, he knows it’ll hurt his family.
@@funnylilgalreacts In fact, you're wrong)The marriage of Daemon and Rhaenyra at this moment would have saved everything. It would completely benefit the family, not harm the family. Another thing, Viserys probably thought that it was dangerous to give up his daughter for such a controversial brother as Daemon, who is trying to achieve this by cunning.
So Rhaenyra had fun with her uncle, which she wanted forever, then she sleeped with ser criston, who she was hot for since they met, then "lied" to alicent to avoid the sexist sl*t shaming, and then gashlighted her father into firing his hand who wanted to ruin her. All of it in LESS THAN 24 HOURS. I have to stan lol. That's my queen right there
@@funnylilgalreacts oh ok I was asking because I'm going to watch it again and I was looking to see if you reacted to it ? I looked but I couldn't find your reaction.
To be fair: While Daemon touched here, he did not go through with it. She still lost her Virginity, but Alicent didn't ask about Cole now, did she... so Rheynera can (sort of) claim that nothing really happened between her and Daemon.
0:47 i think u underrastimate house Targaryen, they are have most talented warriors of all time and much more than other houses in this subject their only rivals are house Dayne... but i understand u only watched GOT... here list of the top 10 warriors of all time; 1- Ser Arthur Dayne 2- Prince Aemon Targaryen (Dragonknight) 3- Daemon Blackfyre ( Blackfyres are Targaryen branch family and he is founder of house Blackfyre but his mother and father are Targaryen) 4- Barristan Selmy 5- Jamie Lannister 6- Robert Baratheon 7- Rhaegar Targaryen/Gerold Dayne 8- The Hound 9- Maegor Targaryen 10- Cregan Stark/Oberyn Martell (Cregan Stark in this list just bcz Aemon Targaryen admired him) and then we have elite warriors... for example elite Targaryen warriors; King Jaeharys 1st Targaryen, realms most powerful female warrior Queen Visenya Targaryen, Daemon Targaryen, Aemond Targaryen, Aegon 1st Targaryen, Maekar Targaryen, Rhaenys Targaryen (the queen one) and Baelon Targaryen... Starks only have Cregan Stark amongs the top or elite the other Starks are not great warriors... fun fact: House Dayne has purple eyes like the Targaryens and Velaryons but hey are not came from Valyria they are oldest house (10 thousand years old) in Westeros and their sword is Dawn. Maesters tells their sword only rival of Valyrian steel sword... so Targaryens and Daynes have many similarities somebodies believe Targaryens (Valyrians) and Daynes are descendents of Great Empire of Dawn (first empire and civilization founded over 20 thousand years before...) notice: last Great Empire of the Dawn ruler is Bloodstone Emperor he is killed his sister Amethyst Empress (propably Targaryens and Valyrians ancestor) and started long night 8 thousand years before after long night Valyrians are rised in Essos so he is very important character for universe or white walkers... by the way sorry for my bad english its not my first language.
To be fair,......Rhaenyra didn't lie to Alicent......... ......exactly. She never had sex with Daemon. She never had sex at the brothel. And while Daemon did indeed "touch her".......he didn't "touch her",......like that. It's just that she (Rhanerya) didn't tell Alicent the whole truth. (that she did have sex, only not with Daemon and only not at the brothel). Yes, yes, I know. A Lie by omission. ...yet a truth by precision.
I think the early episodes everyone tried to understand daemons motives and intentions 😅. But it’s no secret the care he has for family. Plus also a note about the convo viserys had with daemon and how immediately jumping to the conclusion that daemon was just lusting for the crown/thrown when yes it can seem like that but deep down it definitely isn’t when the early convo him and rhaenrya had when watching the play when he was saying himself that aegon needs to be made heir based on the reaction that people had about her being named heir. Daemon understands that political side that the peoples opinion matter as well. And also small details in the show is the relationships daemon has with some people. Daemon gave Otto a look in the beginning when he was giving viserys his “crown” obviously daemon knowing that Otto cannot be trusted. 2nd is the one he has with the gold cloaks, the knight that stopped rhaenrya in the streets is a member of the gold cloaks (Harwin “breakbones” Strong) and him still being their commander and seeing rhaenrya made it easy for him not to do anything and let’s her go. Anyway love the reactions😅😊
Daenerys only resisted the fire because of blood magic. Targaryens are not fireproof at all. Some resistance but not fireproof. Maybe that resistance is lack of fear and their history with dragons but it is not fireproof. It is only that one time Daenerys was able to be fireproof. The show is going fast and probably the worst thing about it. It is not doing the proper character building about what is going on. The relationship between Viserys and Daemon is better in the show but they could have done more. Alicent and Rhaenyra's relationship is strange compared to the book. They have really smoothed out Alicent's character in the show and I think it hurts the drama a bit more.
I honestly don't see a problem between Rhaenyra and Daemon's relationship. Sure they're uncle and niece, but they're royals. All noble houses do this. Just last episode Otto suggested the betrothal of Rhaenyra to Aegon her brother, eventhough he suggested it for his own family's gain. As for Rhaenyra and Daemon's age gap, it's slightly greater than Rhaenyra and Aegon's, but significantly less than Alicent and Viserys, and much less than Laena and Viserys would have been. Besides Rhaenyra and Daemon could start producing heirs immediately instead of waiting a decade within which one or both might die. And yes Daemon already has a wife but if Viserys says so be it then it becomes law, even if it's only for this one marriage.
In this world, no, not a problem. I see it being a great fit, it’s just complicated. He wants the throne, not a wife. She wants to make her own choices, ultimately cant. I think GOT has us conditioned to accept family members being married and giving heirs of the same blood line. Icky in real life, perfectly normal here
Just getting to this reaction, but can I just say I think Daemon cutting his hair was the biggest mistake he made in all of season one. Only kinda serious.
Daemon is the type of character that one episode or even scene you're saying "Wow what a good guy" and the next you're saying "Jesus what was I thinking, what a rotten A-Hole this man is"
*So, those tapestries are NOT Targaryen Heraldry, but rather, gifts originating from across the Narrow Sea.* *Some people who hate Daemon have used this scene + another scene in episode 8 in bad faith to try to smear his character. Not cool.*
In Game of Thrones we saw incest between Cersei and Jaimes and this is very wrong and not because they are brothers because in the Targaryen family there is a lot of this and it is normal in the family for example Daemon's countries and Viserys they are brothers and they are tired and Viserys is married to his cousin who is a mother and Rhaenyra so incest is super normal but Cersei is Jaimes there yes and wrong Because they are not Targaryen if it was Targaryen then it's ok they can be together but they are not Targaryen that's why na series they hide it because they know it's wrong What are they doing that is incest they can't, but if they were Targaryen then no one is bothered by them but they are not Targaryen so they can't have any relationship it's only Targaryen that can do incest because it is the Targaryen family custom to do incest 20:05 The Daemon likes Rhaenyra the daemon wanted to show things to Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra doesn't know anything outside the kingdom the daemon's plan I believe the daemon wanted people to see them together and that they say the princess entered a brothel with her uncle so much so the daemon took off rhaenyra's hood and hat before entering the brothel but the daemon gives up and leaves what a shame because he left her alone and rhaenyra and christian's relationship was also wrong because christian he is a knight and he soiled his white tunic, remembering that Christian is older than Daemon, so age doesn't matter in this universe, just as incest doesn't matter because it's normal in the Targaryen family. I'm already used to it because I read George Martin's books and the stories he tells about the Targaryen family all contain incest. Incest is the most normal thing in this universe 26:26 I didn't like the way Alicent spoke to Rhaenyra if she wants help friend no and just like you approach a friend Alicent is jealous of her Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra slept with whoever she wanted, she doesn't have to sleep with an old man, you'll understand yet but later Alicent is jealous of Rhaenyra's life in the book shows more 22:32 See the difference in the scenes when the daemon talks to Rhaenyra, talking even though she is married, he can feel pleasure with whoever she wants in the scene with Alicent and viserys Alicent is not feeling pleasure in the scene with Rhaenyra and Daemon Rhaenyra is feeling pleasure even if it was the kiss but she likes it more after she sleeps with Christian and she feels pleasure and you can see 27:38 In the throne scene, when the daemon says that Viserys can do whatever he wants, because he is the king, he rules over him and the law, he is a Targaryen, this is true, as it is also true when Viserys tells Alicent that the daemon and Rhaenyra are dragons are restless this is also true.
I didn’t like Daemon officially until episode 8 when I saw the look on his face when he saw his brother and helped him up to the throne. Though I dislike the fact that daemon seems to care ONLY for his family but I love how deeply he cares for them.
Angela : "Considering what Laenor looks like....he's dark skinned with light hair, and she's light-skinned with light hair...if they have a baby that is light-skinned with dark hair, it would look very suspicious...." Indeed. That would look very very strange indeed. Perish the thought that such a thing could ever happen. Drink that moon-tea Rhaenyra! Although...... There is such a thing as a recessive gene (blond parents have been known to have brunette babies......and vice versa). Plus.....Laenor is only half-black. (.....his mother is Rhaenys and a Targaryan like Rhaenrya). Which means his children with Rhaenyra would be three-quarters white and more likely look white-presenting (and more likely resembling Rhaenyra in skin-tone than Laenor). A lot of people didn't get this but we have real life examples in our own world. Prince Harry (full white) and Meghan Markle (half-white, half-black biracial) have children who are both white-presenting and both redheads and favor their father's look and (very fair) complexion than their mother's looks (particularly her Afro-features and more olive- skin tone.). And then there's also this to consider... A dark -haired Targaryan isn't exactly that big of an oddity in the Game of Thrones universe,.....as we came to see in the last series.
I would love for people to put themselves in Rhaenyra's situation for this episode and ask what exactly was she supposed to do. Daemon gets her super horny, then leaves her, so this 18 year old wants to have sex with Criston Cole. She is then accused of sleeping with Daemon by Alicent, her former best friend, recently made up, who is married to her Dad the King. If Rhaenyra tells the truth she would lose her position as heir so she really did the only thing she could to maintain her position and I respect her immensely for it.
It doesn't matter if Rhaenyra lied to Alicent. Alicent was the first who betrayed her by seducing Viserys though it's her father's planned. Rhaenyra doesn't trust alicent anymore that's why she never tell the truth to Alicent. Waiting for your next reaction, so excited.
let's maybe not say the 15yo girl "seduced" the grown ass man, though. all she did was show basic kindness to him. and she was clearly uncomfortable with the prospect of marrying him, as evidenced by her picking her nails whenever the topic of his marriage was brought up.
What I find so interesting about this series is the choices being made for these women that they don't have much of a say in. There are so many consequences to those choices that now looking back are massively catastrophic. It's what I really love about the smaller scale of this show. It's small moments and choices that make some of the biggest problems. I will definitely elaborate more once you watch those episodes because especially for Rhaenyra, her life is wildly complicated for many reasons that could have been avoided had some of these men made different choices. While I don't love that Rhaenyra hides the truth from Alicent, I definitely understand why. We've seen Alicent be quite judgemental and not very understanding of Rhaenyra's need to rebel against tradition. Alicent only lives for tradition and rule following. They're sort of two sides of the same coin. Also, in terms of Rhaenyra saying "touched" she means they didn't have sex. So technically, not a lie. And telling anyone about Criston would result in him being sent to the wall or killed. She's kind of in a corner there. It's hard because she's not quite comfortable with Alicent any more because she's not just her friend anymore. She's the Queen and Rhaenyra knows how much Alicent bows to tradition. Being honest with her could get people hurt or possibly killed. It's tough for everyone. I'd like to believe Alicent would understand, but we've also seen her fold under pressure from her father. Just a crap situation. And while Otto was telling the truth, it's not that Viserys doesn't believe him. We see that he does, the issue is his obvious pushing of Aegon to rule. Pushing Alicent to wed Viserys, trying to wed Rhaenyra to A BABY, now having the heir followed. Viserys isn't dumb. He's nonconfrotational for sure, but he's a smart man and now he's putting the pieces together. Otto isn't let go for telling the truth, he's let go because his agenda is so clear.
I was so hungover watching this and my tongue was swollen from an allergic reaction 🤣
Thank you :)
Hungover and an allergic reaction !! I'm still hungover from 2 nights ago. Lol I love watching your reaction to HOTD. Just wanted to let you know your doing great and I appreciate it.
Living the dream 😂
Party on
Appropriate that I’m watching this super hungover.
more info on caraxes: caraxas aka “the blood wrym” has a mutation. he is extremely moody, intelligent, very swift and fierce and not well-liked by other dragons except he does have a bond with Syrax (rhaenyra’s dragon). Also he has a deviated septum from a previous battle with his last rider which is why he sounds that way. Daemon and Caraxes are avatars of each other and share a very strong bond.
I’d like a show of just the adventures of Daemon and Caraxes. They are my favorite thing about the show.
boy GoT fans just cannot let the show reveal these things itself eh
@@suddenimpulse030 Finally giving her HOTD reactions a try and this is what i found in comments ...💀
The time segments on this video are hilarious 😂
I love your reactions swapping my from ‘I ship it…?’ To unease, then to happiness. I think that was definitely intended.
I love how complicated this show is in morality. No one is really all good or all bad (yet at least) and it makes them all so compelling.
Love your reaction, can’t wait for more!
I love it. There's no ridiculous notion of good people. Just broken, fucked up people.
Learned from a book reader in another reaction to this episode that the 2 guys that get in a fight during Rhaenyra's 'pageant' were from long feuding families... so they were gonna fight being in the same room whether the Princess was there or not. Thought it was fun information.
23:06 , Not exactly ...it was more of a Guilt feeling he got after seeing how important it was for Rhaenyra. Also someone on the show said he probably realised he genuinely had feelings for her.
It's beleived that besides then wanting to keep the Dragon Power within the Family, TARGARYENs are attracted to each other in many cases because of their blood magic as a biological side effect. Blood magic which allows them to bond with the dragons.
Interesting. They are all ridiculously good looking too 😂
Haha, Oh yes! The show still is not representing them fully as in the books because PURPLE colour EYES are a Strong Targaryen feature but I've never seen the shows include that detail. I am not a book reader but I read online in a GOT website. I wish someone had the deep purple eyes.
Daemon deliberately made sure that both he and Rhaenyra were spotted in that brothel. He also knows that Mysaria is now running the "little birds" and he knows that Otto has spies everywhere all the time, but especially any time Otto is in town. He wanted to make a play for Rhaenyra's hand which would put him closer to the throne, just as Viserys put it together. Unfortunately for Otto, he wasn't looking to get Rhaenyra in trouble and didn't foresee her being caught up in the net he cast for Daemon, so he get's fired on an occasion when he was acting in good faith, which is why he was so disturbed to tell the King about it.
Just FYI, that scene with V kicking D, and then going to strangle him and pulling the knife on him; those actions weren't in the original script, but Paddy and Matt decided to play it that way in rehearsal, and the director was smart enough to let it stay. Apparently, Paddy and Matt improvised and improved upon many scenes in this series and deserve so much credit for how brilliantly their characters turned out.
I don't believe Otto was disturbed, and more acting it up while using another opportunity to push for his grandchild to become king.
the writer of the show just recently came out and said daemon never wanted the throne
For context, the kid at the start was a Blackwood and the guy he killed was a Bracken. House Blackwood and House Bracken are two ancient neighboring houses in the Riverlands that have been feuding for centuries and take any excuse to kill each other.
The time stamp titles for this are just so glorious 😂
Also, Laenor is a "Ser", not yet a lord and certainly not a prince. The only ones outside of the royal lineage of the Iron Throne that are allowed to call themselves "Prince" are the Martell's of Sunspear (Dorne).
I really love the attention to detail this show puts into the dialog. To throw some analysis at the Rhaenyra and Alicent confrontation scene, Rhaenyra never "technically" lies. Even her claim that "he [Daemon] never touched me," is a euphemism for "we didn't have sex," which is in context for what she's being accused of. It doesn't literally mean, "we never kissed or had any other bodily contact." What Alicent interprets from that interplay, that Rhaenyra claims to still be a "maiden," is Alicent not listening closely enough.
Alternatively, Viserys becomes convinced they did have sex because Daemon never explicitly denies it, exactly because Daemon wants Viserys to believe she's been "defiled" so that Viserys will agree to wed Rhaenyra to Daemon. However, Daemon never lies in that scene either.
Even in the real world, people often interpret what others say incorrectly, and people also often say things vaguely exactly to mislead someone. But misleading someone isn't the same as lying.
It's lying by omission which is still lying. Rhaenyra understood that Alicent was really asking if she was still a "maiden", and kept silent about Criston
TL;DR: Alicent makes specific accusations. Rhaenyra truthfully answers those specific accusations. Alicent draws the wrong conclusions from Rhaenyra's answers. Different viewers will interpret the "morality" of what the characters did based on their (the viewers) own values, not on what factually happened in the scene.
@@pr1ncess.d1e.h1gh this is why writing like this is compelling. Clearly, people draw certain conclusion using their own rubrics for what constitutes what. Here's my thinking; Alicent NEVER asks if Rhaenyra is still a maiden. Every single one of Alicent's sentences is specifically about Rhaenyra having sex with Daemon, and the major point Alicent makes, the crux of her distress, is about Targaryen incest, something that would only be possible in this scenario with Daemon. None of that is projection or drawing conclusions. That's all verifiable from the media.
Getting away from "facts" and into analysis: Rhaenyra never "lied by omission" (which is an entirely different argument about whether or not that is a "lie," because it wouldn't require a qualifier if it already met the technical definition). Alicent's accusation was specifically stated as Rhaenyra having sex with Daemon, and that Rhaenyra had sex while out on the town with Daemon, neither of which were accurate. Alicent never asks, "So, just to make sure, you're claiming that you've never had sex with anyone, ever, at any time or anywhere, and that you still meet Westrosi cultural expectations of maidenhood?" I would argue that the burden of being accused of something shouldn't fall on the defendant to anticipate all possible permutations or implications of an accusation.
Rhaenyra is obviously being careful with her wording, and in fact is visibly relieved in the scene when Alicent accuses her specifically of sleeping with Daemon rather than something like "having sex with someone." Rhaenyra ain't no dummy. So at best, someone could accuse her of being "manipulative," knowingly using what she understands of Alicent's thinking and wording to prevent disadvantaging herself. But that pits the moral position of "freely divulging explicit answers to unasked questions" against "is it moral for anyone to even be prying into someone's private business." Being "manipulative" has a decidedly negative connotation in the real world, but I'd argue that there's a giant moral difference between seeking to gain advantage at someone else's expense vs. seeking to defend yourself.
I'll go back and rewatch that scene (though I've already watched it three times, twice specifically looking for this). As I recall, I don't think there is even a single sentence Alicent speaks which specifically inquires about a general "maiden-ness." It's all about Daemon, Daemon, Daemon (spoken in the Marsha, Marsha, Marsha voice from the Brady Bunch for extra hilarity).
yea this is what i really like about the scene too, which it seems like not everyone sees the same way. i think it is really clever writing and important that she isnt actually lying in this scene. you can have qualms with how she handles it of course, and im not going to claim it was a good idea to swear on her mother necessarily, but i think she only did that because at least in her eyes she wasnt lying. i do kinda wish she had said something like "daemon and i didnt have sex" rather than "daemon never touched me" simply so it would be a little less of a gray area for the viewer since you could interpret 'touch me' to cover what they did, and therefore a lie. that may have been the intention to make it a little blurry over whether it was a lie or not though, but i definitely think its important that there at least is AN interpretation where she isnt lying, and alicent just makes a logical fallacy conclusion from it when she retells it later.
@@Orwulf Agreed. And I do believe that was the entire intent of why the dialog was written exactly how it was. The strength of the story here relies on neither Rhaenyra nor Alicent being "good" or "bad." But both of them being "less than perfect" and having "conflicting values, perspectives, and behaviors." And I think the scene does that wonderfully.
Imo straight up lying to protect yourself makes you look better than a scheming sociopath who’s calculated the perfect lie to get themselves out of something. Indicates that Rhaenyra certainly isn’t the hero some make her out to be.
Really enjoy these HOTD reactions. So genuine and insightful. Keep them coming!
That whole battle at the step stones was Leanor’s plan that he was explaining before the messenger came from king’s landing
There are five kings named Aegon: 1. Aegon the Conqueror ( the 1st Aegon) 2. Aegon the Elder(Alicent's son) 3. Aegon the Dragonsbane (Rhaenyra's son) 4. Aegon the Unworthy 5. Aegon the Unlikely ( AKA Egg, maester Aemon's brother)
Just to clarify danearys only didn’t get burnt the one time when she hatched the dragons because of blood magic… she definitely can be burned in the books… George R R Martin was upset when they gave dany the title of unburned… he said in an a discussion with fans: “TARGERYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE”
@@antonytjp I get that this is an old comment, but I couldn't help myself.
There's a lot you can think poorly about GoT. But I think "The Unburned" is definitely a title you would give to someone like Daenerys, even if it only happened once and she isn't otherwise immune from fire. It's such a big event, that it would have that impact on people.
@@emilbovbjerg oh yeah I agree with that for sure I’m not one to go crazy about these things it’s just the second time she did it on the tv show it in season 6 it disappointed George RR Martin because she would have died without blood magic.. season 5 is the last season that uses the books.. season 6,7 and 8 are extremely flawed
@@antonytjp Oh yeah. I kinda forgot it happened twice in the show.
I really like the complicated story lines that are weaved together! The writing is pretty damn good! As you said, truths and lies that are spoken! Also there are no clear good or bad players! Reminds me of another show.. Saseke?
Oyedeng Beltalowda!
*sings* Secret Tunnel ! Secret Tunnel !
About that: The red Keep was build with tons of secrets, tunnels and hidden stuff. They murdered everyone who constructed it afterwards to keep the secrets safe.
You're gonna go back and forth on Daemon a lot in this show. And I mean a LOT. But he's by far my favorite character in spite of his dubious moral flaws.
Every episode is like a tornado of feelings. Daemon got me all twisted up
@@funnylilgalreacts My feelings for Daemon are tied up in my love for Matt Smith from his days on DW. I bend over backwards to see the good in Daemon and Prince Philip on The Crown even when they do very not nice things because I loved his Doctor so much.
Drinking the Tea is admiting you have a reason to drink the Tea. That is a tuff call to make for Rhaenyra to make.
“…in a pleasure house.” 💀 Sounds better than “brothel,” and much funnier.
AND “funner”
@@funnylilgalreacts 🤔 I like how you think.
Damn this winter look and hair looks so good on you ❤😍😍 btw I can’t wait for your reaction to the next ep which are pretty emotional
👀 it was indeed
All the Targaryens are "war" dragons, there personalities can differ but they only brought dragons that were bred for war when they fled the Doom so all the other types sadly are extinct.
Back then it was called Plan Tea, lol
As to the your comments about V's leprosy and the hunt, what Viserys has is an "unhealable" wound which has symbolic significance in the show, as well as medieval mythology in general. In the Arthurian romances, there is the character of the Fisher King, who also suffers from an unhealable wound, and obviously the health of the King is closely tied to the health of the Kingdom. Unless the Holy Grail can be restored through the quest of some brave knight, the King and Kingdom can not be healed and will continue to deteriorate. Unfortunately in Westeros, there is no "grail" (at least not until the events of ASOIAF) so Westeros will continue to "fall apart" over the next two centuries.
As for the hunt, it's not really a hunt but a quasi-religious/political rite, which is why the King must kill the stag. Symbolically (and I think Viserys knows this in his heart) the stag (king of the forest) is the King, tied up, pulled in all directions, pinned down, and ultimately doomed suffer and to sacrifice his life to the realm. Unfortunately for Viserys, he will not be put out of his misery as quickly and mercifully as the stag.
I don't think Daemon was planning to self-sacrifice or anything like that. Right before the messenger showed up with news that Viserys was sending support, they were discussing a plan which required someone to bait out the crab feeder's men from their hiding spots. So it was always planned as a bluff and Daemon knew full well that the other men would attack at precisely the agreed-upon point. The men would have known what he was doing the moment he grabbed that white flag. He had no intention of dying.
Yes, it was the trap they had been discussing before the messenger arrived. Daemon knew the other soldiers and the dragon were coming; he was stalling for time.
Excellent job with the chapter titles. Got an LOL from me
Did *you* see the tapestries? You really should see the tapestries. I was shocked! Shocked , I tell you!
But seriously, all joking aside, I was actually a bit surprised when I noticed them in the previous episode. So I got a chuckle when they mentioned them in this one. I shouldn't have been surprised though, after all, it is HBO.
7:22 that caught me off guard , I laughed harder than I should have. 😆
You look even prettier in this vid btw.
Thanks 😂
They are family riding the dragon riders they are all related to the royal family.
I love dragons. Real or fake, they are my favorite animals ✨🤩. Btw, Caraxes is nicknamed “the Blood 🩸 Worm” !!
I really loved this episode but on the subject of tiny things that bug me, at 28:58, Viserys heats up and then resheaths a red-hot blade into a leather sheath. I've seen the ep twice on my own and that part just kills me.
Omg I didn’t notice. That’s a dumb mistake, I’m surprised they didn’t catch it
Maybe Valryan steel heats up and cools down differently from normal steel.
Since it's a mythical element, you can't exactly dispute or refute that possibility.
@@Cbricklyne it does
It's also hinted at that the Targaryen incest isn't just emotiobal but biological. Most of them want to mate with family members. It's very weird.
They are attracted to each other in many cases because of their blood magic I believe. Blood of the dragon
Oh boy, this'll be interesting!
i always wonder why so few people pick up on the reason why Rhaenyra and Ser Criston Cole cant become a couple. He is sworn to the kings guard that means he violated his oath by having sex with her.
That might mean shit today for us, but in this society it is punishable by death, Eve if that could be avoided, Rhaenyra position is already precarious. She marrying a dishonored kings guard would make it even worse
Poor Xander had to blur most of the episode
You have to watch a movie called South Park Bigger, Longer and Uncut because it has the song called uncle fucker which did predict that moment between Rhaenyra and Daemon Targaryen
Don't feel bad about not understanding the opening credits. It took me just about as long to figure it out as well. In Game of Thrones The credits were based off of The map of westeros and the locations in the episode. Because we were following the different moves all the players were making in the game.
But this is House of the Dragon. We aren't following the game we're following the family. I have a theory that I'm too lazy to try and confirm. But all the little badges or gold circles that the blood Runs into are all the other families that have married into the targaryen family.
Their vibe is perfectly niece and uncle...for Targaryens ;)
“I made out with uncle in a pleasure house” would ruin Christmas anywhere else.
I love you Daemon ( a second later ) Daemon, burn in hell. That's why I love him as a character. In fact, in this episode Daemon had a plan to get Viserys to marry them, he failed to defame Rhaenyra because he didnt expect her to be so much involved in this process and because he felt that it was wrong to do it with her, since obviously he cares about her
It shows he has a bit of a conscience, but not really all that admirable. I know the last thing he wants to do is hurt his family and I think in that moment, he knows it’ll hurt his family.
@@funnylilgalreacts In fact, you're wrong)The marriage of Daemon and Rhaenyra at this moment would have saved everything. It would completely benefit the family, not harm the family. Another thing, Viserys probably thought that it was dangerous to give up his daughter for such a controversial brother as Daemon, who is trying to achieve this by cunning.
Thank you for this :)
So Rhaenyra had fun with her uncle, which she wanted forever, then she sleeped with ser criston, who she was hot for since they met, then "lied" to alicent to avoid the sexist sl*t shaming, and then gashlighted her father into firing his hand who wanted to ruin her. All of it in LESS THAN 24 HOURS. I have to stan lol. That's my queen right there
Watch faster, I cant wait 🙂
I'm certainly trying 😂
any chance on picking Andor back up if you didn't finish it on your own? it ended up being one of the best shows of the year!
Yes, I will be watching it soon 🖤
not twat, in my experience (as someone born and raised in england) is pronounced with short a sound.
Also, Rhaenyra was like 14 when her uncle kissed her.
It's about to get soooo good. Team Black 4 lyfe.
14 off from first. Damn it!
Have you watched GOT ?
Yes I have! I don’t know why am surprised by a lot of the stuff that happens but I still am lol
@@funnylilgalreacts oh ok I was asking because I'm going to watch it again and I was looking to see if you reacted to it ? I looked but I couldn't find your reaction.
Oh no sorry I haven’t done reactions to GOT
To be fair: While Daemon touched here, he did not go through with it. She still lost her Virginity, but Alicent didn't ask about Cole now, did she... so Rheynera can (sort of) claim that nothing really happened between her and Daemon.
0:47 i think u underrastimate house Targaryen, they are have most talented warriors of all time and much more than other houses in this subject their only rivals are house Dayne... but i understand u only watched GOT... here list of the top 10 warriors of all time;
1- Ser Arthur Dayne
2- Prince Aemon Targaryen (Dragonknight)
3- Daemon Blackfyre ( Blackfyres are Targaryen branch family and he is founder of house Blackfyre but his mother and father are Targaryen)
4- Barristan Selmy
5- Jamie Lannister
6- Robert Baratheon
7- Rhaegar Targaryen/Gerold Dayne
8- The Hound
9- Maegor Targaryen
10- Cregan Stark/Oberyn Martell (Cregan Stark in this list just bcz Aemon Targaryen admired him)
and then we have elite warriors...
for example elite Targaryen warriors;
King Jaeharys 1st Targaryen, realms most powerful female warrior Queen Visenya Targaryen, Daemon Targaryen, Aemond Targaryen, Aegon 1st Targaryen, Maekar Targaryen, Rhaenys Targaryen (the queen one) and Baelon Targaryen... Starks only have Cregan Stark amongs the top or elite the other Starks are not great warriors...
fun fact: House Dayne has purple eyes like the Targaryens and Velaryons but hey are not came from Valyria they are oldest house (10 thousand years old) in Westeros and their sword is Dawn. Maesters tells their sword only rival of Valyrian steel sword... so Targaryens and Daynes have many similarities somebodies believe Targaryens (Valyrians) and Daynes are descendents of Great Empire of Dawn (first empire and civilization founded over 20 thousand years before...)
notice: last Great Empire of the Dawn ruler is Bloodstone Emperor he is killed his sister Amethyst Empress (propably Targaryens and Valyrians ancestor) and started long night 8 thousand years before after long night Valyrians are rised in Essos so he is very important character for universe or white walkers...
by the way sorry for my bad english its not my first language.
To be fair,......Rhaenyra didn't lie to Alicent.........
......exactly.
She never had sex with Daemon.
She never had sex at the brothel.
And while Daemon did indeed "touch her".......he didn't "touch her",......like that.
It's just that she (Rhanerya) didn't tell Alicent the whole truth.
(that she did have sex, only not with Daemon and only not at the brothel).
Yes, yes, I know.
A Lie by omission.
...yet a truth by precision.
I think the early episodes everyone tried to understand daemons motives and intentions 😅. But it’s no secret the care he has for family. Plus also a note about the convo viserys had with daemon and how immediately jumping to the conclusion that daemon was just lusting for the crown/thrown when yes it can seem like that but deep down it definitely isn’t when the early convo him and rhaenrya had when watching the play when he was saying himself that aegon needs to be made heir based on the reaction that people had about her being named heir. Daemon understands that political side that the peoples opinion matter as well.
And also small details in the show is the relationships daemon has with some people. Daemon gave Otto a look in the beginning when he was giving viserys his “crown” obviously daemon knowing that Otto cannot be trusted. 2nd is the one he has with the gold cloaks, the knight that stopped rhaenrya in the streets is a member of the gold cloaks (Harwin “breakbones” Strong) and him still being their commander and seeing rhaenrya made it easy for him not to do anything and let’s her go.
Anyway love the reactions😅😊
Technically... Rhaenyra didn't lie to Alicent. She swore "Deamon never touched me", which is true.
But he did, (touch) 🌚🌝🤪😉
Daenerys only resisted the fire because of blood magic. Targaryens are not fireproof at all. Some resistance but not fireproof. Maybe that resistance is lack of fear and their history with dragons but it is not fireproof. It is only that one time Daenerys was able to be fireproof.
The show is going fast and probably the worst thing about it. It is not doing the proper character building about what is going on. The relationship between Viserys and Daemon is better in the show but they could have done more. Alicent and Rhaenyra's relationship is strange compared to the book. They have really smoothed out Alicent's character in the show and I think it hurts the drama a bit more.
I honestly don't see a problem between Rhaenyra and Daemon's relationship. Sure they're uncle and niece, but they're royals. All noble houses do this. Just last episode Otto suggested the betrothal of Rhaenyra to Aegon her brother, eventhough he suggested it for his own family's gain. As for Rhaenyra and Daemon's age gap, it's slightly greater than Rhaenyra and Aegon's, but significantly less than Alicent and Viserys, and much less than Laena and Viserys would have been. Besides Rhaenyra and Daemon could start producing heirs immediately instead of waiting a decade within which one or both might die. And yes Daemon already has a wife but if Viserys says so be it then it becomes law, even if it's only for this one marriage.
In this world, no, not a problem. I see it being a great fit, it’s just complicated. He wants the throne, not a wife. She wants to make her own choices, ultimately cant. I think GOT has us conditioned to accept family members being married and giving heirs of the same blood line. Icky in real life, perfectly normal here
Just getting to this reaction, but can I just say I think Daemon cutting his hair was the biggest mistake he made in all of season one. Only kinda serious.
Daemon is the type of character that one episode or even scene you're saying "Wow what a good guy" and the next you're saying "Jesus what was I thinking, what a rotten A-Hole this man is"
Yeah. This is what is called a "gray character". Like Jaime Lannister, Severus Snape or Walter White.
Its not Plan B, its Plan Tea..................I'll show myself out.
🥁 BUM TISS
13:47 - TALK SH*T. GET HIT.
*So, those tapestries are NOT Targaryen Heraldry, but rather, gifts originating from across the Narrow Sea.*
*Some people who hate Daemon have used this scene + another scene in episode 8 in bad faith to try to smear his character. Not cool.*
In Game of Thrones we saw incest between Cersei and Jaimes and this is very wrong and not because they are brothers because in the Targaryen family there is a lot of this and it is normal in the family for example Daemon's countries and Viserys they are brothers and they are tired and Viserys is married to his cousin who is a mother and Rhaenyra so incest is super normal but Cersei is Jaimes there yes and wrong Because they are not Targaryen if it was Targaryen then it's ok they can be together but they are not Targaryen that's why na series they hide it because they know it's wrong What are they doing that is incest they can't, but if they were Targaryen then no one is bothered by them but they are not Targaryen so they can't have any relationship it's only Targaryen that can do incest because it is the Targaryen family custom to do incest
20:05 The Daemon likes Rhaenyra the daemon wanted to show things to Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra doesn't know anything outside the kingdom the daemon's plan I believe the daemon wanted people to see them together and that they say the princess entered a brothel with her uncle so much so the daemon took off rhaenyra's hood and hat before entering the brothel but the daemon gives up and leaves what a shame because he left her alone and rhaenyra and christian's relationship was also wrong because christian he is a knight and he soiled his white tunic, remembering that Christian is older than Daemon, so age doesn't matter in this universe, just as incest doesn't matter because it's normal in the Targaryen family. I'm already used to it because I read George Martin's books and the stories he tells about the Targaryen family all contain incest. Incest is the most normal thing in this universe
26:26 I didn't like the way Alicent spoke to Rhaenyra if she wants help friend no and just like you approach a friend Alicent is jealous of her Rhaenyra because Rhaenyra slept with whoever she wanted, she doesn't have to sleep with an old man, you'll understand yet but later Alicent is jealous of Rhaenyra's life in the book shows more
22:32 See the difference in the scenes when the daemon talks to Rhaenyra, talking even though she is married, he can feel pleasure with whoever she wants in the scene with Alicent and viserys Alicent is not feeling pleasure in the scene with Rhaenyra and Daemon Rhaenyra is feeling pleasure even if it was the kiss but she likes it more after she sleeps with Christian and she feels pleasure and you can see
27:38 In the throne scene, when the daemon says that Viserys can do whatever he wants, because he is the king, he rules over him and the law, he is a Targaryen, this is true, as it is also true when Viserys tells Alicent that the daemon and Rhaenyra are dragons are restless this is also true.
I'm not watching this immediately instead of getting a proper night's sleep. No, not at all.
It wasn’t my most energetic reaction, but I’m happy to hear if your sacrifice 🖤
Viserys did not have leprosy in the books lol he died a Fat man with gout and breathing complications lol
I thought the books were told from 3 different points of view, and none of which were exactly entirely reliable or totally accurate.
imo she should've married the blackwood boy 🤷♀
I didn’t like Daemon officially until episode 8 when I saw the look on his face when he saw his brother and helped him up to the throne. Though I dislike the fact that daemon seems to care ONLY for his family but I love how deeply he cares for them.
Angela : "Considering what Laenor looks like....he's dark skinned with light hair, and she's light-skinned with light hair...if they have a baby that is light-skinned with dark hair, it would look very suspicious...."
Indeed.
That would look very very strange indeed. Perish the thought that such a thing could ever happen.
Drink that moon-tea Rhaenyra!
Although......
There is such a thing as a recessive gene (blond parents have been known to have brunette babies......and vice versa).
Plus.....Laenor is only half-black. (.....his mother is Rhaenys and a Targaryan like Rhaenrya).
Which means his children with Rhaenyra would be three-quarters white and more likely look white-presenting (and more likely resembling Rhaenyra in skin-tone than Laenor).
A lot of people didn't get this but we have real life examples in our own world.
Prince Harry (full white) and Meghan Markle (half-white, half-black biracial) have children who are both white-presenting and both redheads and favor their father's look and (very fair) complexion than their mother's looks (particularly her Afro-features and more olive- skin tone.).
And then there's also this to consider...
A dark -haired Targaryan isn't exactly that big of an oddity in the Game of Thrones universe,.....as we came to see in the last series.
"Twat". x
I would love for people to put themselves in Rhaenyra's situation for this episode and ask what exactly was she supposed to do. Daemon gets her super horny, then leaves her, so this 18 year old wants to have sex with Criston Cole. She is then accused of sleeping with Daemon by Alicent, her former best friend, recently made up, who is married to her Dad the King. If Rhaenyra tells the truth she would lose her position as heir so she really did the only thing she could to maintain her position and I respect her immensely for it.
It doesn't matter if Rhaenyra lied to Alicent. Alicent was the first who betrayed her by seducing Viserys though it's her father's planned. Rhaenyra doesn't trust alicent anymore that's why she never tell the truth to Alicent. Waiting for your next reaction, so excited.
let's maybe not say the 15yo girl "seduced" the grown ass man, though. all she did was show basic kindness to him. and she was clearly uncomfortable with the prospect of marrying him, as evidenced by her picking her nails whenever the topic of his marriage was brought up.
What I find so interesting about this series is the choices being made for these women that they don't have much of a say in. There are so many consequences to those choices that now looking back are massively catastrophic. It's what I really love about the smaller scale of this show. It's small moments and choices that make some of the biggest problems. I will definitely elaborate more once you watch those episodes because especially for Rhaenyra, her life is wildly complicated for many reasons that could have been avoided had some of these men made different choices.
While I don't love that Rhaenyra hides the truth from Alicent, I definitely understand why. We've seen Alicent be quite judgemental and not very understanding of Rhaenyra's need to rebel against tradition. Alicent only lives for tradition and rule following. They're sort of two sides of the same coin.
Also, in terms of Rhaenyra saying "touched" she means they didn't have sex. So technically, not a lie. And telling anyone about Criston would result in him being sent to the wall or killed. She's kind of in a corner there. It's hard because she's not quite comfortable with Alicent any more because she's not just her friend anymore. She's the Queen and Rhaenyra knows how much Alicent bows to tradition. Being honest with her could get people hurt or possibly killed. It's tough for everyone. I'd like to believe Alicent would understand, but we've also seen her fold under pressure from her father. Just a crap situation.
And while Otto was telling the truth, it's not that Viserys doesn't believe him. We see that he does, the issue is his obvious pushing of Aegon to rule. Pushing Alicent to wed Viserys, trying to wed Rhaenyra to A BABY, now having the heir followed. Viserys isn't dumb. He's nonconfrotational for sure, but he's a smart man and now he's putting the pieces together. Otto isn't let go for telling the truth, he's let go because his agenda is so clear.
I'm sure you past it but still won't be specific, but waiting for the pendulum swing to happen on how you feel about some characters. 😁