On my "keep & use" 123R (& Optimus 80), I added some fiberglas wicking [carbon felt is best] around the burner to hold preheat fuel. Otherwise an old Coleman 502 would be great alternative if you don't mind the weight & bulk.
I have a 502. it's very nice but not something I would ever backpack with. car camping sure. that's why these smaller format stoves interest me so much. Thanks for the comment and views!
Thank you for another excellent review. It seems that this is a good quality product. Definitely has a lot of value to it. However, without a windscreen or a blocking device, it could hamper its use, especially with the silent head. The roaring head seems easier to get started and to control. Like you said….it just depends on what your preference is. Congratulations on having your first 1k subscribers. You are on your way 😊
Thanks PP. Yes it's a very nice stove works very well. If you don't mind the Roaring head style than the ebay one is by far the better value. Plus you get a windscreen. But you don't get spare parts. So it boils down to what an individual thinks is best for them. Got some more videos coming on the stoves so hope you stick around. Have a great night.
Its funny that we are in the 2020's and we are surprised when company's actually pack things right. I think that says alot of things about the world we live in. thanks for the comment and views.
A 3-inch piece of plastic drinking straw can be used to extract fuel from the tank. Just put your finger over the top to hold the fuel inside until you're ready to release it.
Other reviewers have said that the "silent" burner is nearly useless! The blast-furnace burner works great. Boils water very fast and can be adjusted down to a medium simmer.
I'm very interested in the kerosene/diesel version. Useful when I've already got jerry cans of diesel for my van. Looks better than the cheapo Indian kerosene pressure stoves anyway.
I bought one . I only used gasoline so far . The green one without the " silent burner " . I was mad at first . Awww . I wanted blue pretty flame holes . Wahhh . I almost made the bell thing out od deadbolt door lock parts and dor knob handles and now im alright . At least mine has the air pump and fuel line generator tube and isn't a fuel oressure grenade .
Also please note: the mix of stove material [stainless, aluminum, brass] can and WILL result in "electrolytic corrosion". Just a question of "when" NOT "if"! Old swedish, european, and Coleman stoves lasted (&still do) so long because they didn't mix metals to prevent this. Those OLD swedes and colemans were made to "pass on" to your great-grandkids ! NOT so the cheap chinese stuff. TIME is the "true" test of quality !!
@@charlesartificer2158 Just think: 0°C = water freezes 100°C = water boils and gasifies Maybe also good to know for outdoors: 60°C is when you can start to pasteurize water. But you can also get a WAPI to check this
@@charlesartificer2158 WAter Pasteurisation Indicator Its a fun little thingy that shows you at which point your water is pasteurized and safe to drink since boiling is overkill and a waste of fuel. Of course people typically filter their water to make it drinkable .
@martinerhard8447 Ahhh ok. Never knew such a thing existed. In the Army here we had chemical tabs to purify water or were taught to boil for 5 minutes. Yes it is over kill and a waste of fuel. But I would rather have that than dysentery. Filters are cool but some of them cost a fortune.
Love all the extras but... With all the heat from the stainless, and NO PRESSURE REIIEF VALVE,they should include a full face helmet and a schrapnel vest..
lol maybe. But in the 70's when I was young I played with lawn darts. Road in the bed of pickup trucks and did dozens of other things that make people clutch their pearls now.
There's a reason that lixada and this is copied from svea123 (and R).Love the extras,but with no pressure relief valve,all the extras are just noise in your pockets as you're wheeled into E.R.!The 123's might cost a little more,what's your ass worth?🤠🇺🇲
I was using White gas in this stove and I could not detect any odor. If you use Unleaded gasoline I imagine it would smell like a running car. Thanks for the comment and views.
So the CCP has stolen the Svea 123 and made it with stainless steel and an aluminum cap? (not a good combination if you mis-thread it). The original svea burner cup works great but the silent burner cup has issues. I say, go buy the SVEA 123 and see if it fits in the cook kit for the G43.
POOR clone of Swedish Svea 123(R). While the silent burner head is nice, WATCH OUT => NO SAFETY VALVE as on Svea models !! Self pressurized gas stove WITHOUT Safety-valve is BAD [think Bomb] !!
Thanks for the in depth review. For your cold starts,i'd invest in some denatured alcohol,it burns way hotter,slower, for a better prime,espfor silent burner,and your cold stuff,also good if you only have a little bit of fuel left,this can b saved for cooking only,if yr out and about,cold and hungry....thats normally when you run out of fuel !!! I saw these stoves a while back,wondered how they'd go. So you did the leg work for me. Thanks. I got 1 Max Sievert Svea123,1 Svea123 and 1 Svea123r. ('r' denotes cleaning needle in later models,not present in early Svea 123) They are brilliant,you will love it wheen you find one in the palm of your hand. Careful !!.....you will part with some cash soon after!!! Gonna hang on to the Swedish connection,easier access,better engineering,always fires, My oldest Svea is nearing 65 and powers!! It'll be going for another 100yrs. It will definately outlast me,whoever i bequeath it to...hee hee,it will outlast them too!!!
I don't think the Svea 123 is made in Sweden anymore. Pretty sure it's made in Taiwan or something. Where I am in Canada on Amazon this stove is the same price as the Svea is so I would still go for the Svea but a lot of people have said the quality of the Svea's has gone drastically downhill
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On my "keep & use" 123R (& Optimus 80), I added some fiberglas wicking [carbon felt is best] around the burner to hold preheat fuel. Otherwise an old Coleman 502 would be great alternative if you don't mind the weight & bulk.
I have a 502. it's very nice but not something I would ever backpack with. car camping sure. that's why these smaller format stoves interest me so much. Thanks for the comment and views!
28° 🧐 great job showing all the parts . I wanted to see the silent burner flame look like a coleman stove . Thanks
No problem, just wish the silent burner worked better.
Thank you for another excellent review. It seems that this is a good quality product. Definitely has a lot of value to it. However, without a windscreen or a blocking device, it could hamper its use, especially with the silent head. The roaring head seems easier to get started and to control. Like you said….it just depends on what your preference is.
Congratulations on having your first 1k subscribers. You are on your way 😊
Thanks PP. Yes it's a very nice stove works very well. If you don't mind the Roaring head style than the ebay one is by far the better value. Plus you get a windscreen. But you don't get spare parts. So it boils down to what an individual thinks is best for them. Got some more videos coming on the stoves so hope you stick around. Have a great night.
I used mine in alabama last week yea wind blows it out but tin foil makes great wind screen 🤓
Nice hack
PLEASE be VERY careful using a windscreen with a self-pressurized stove (ANY BRAND) ! If too close you can overheat/overpressure the stove !!!
Congratulations on 1k subscribers!!
Thanks I'm glad I finally made it here. Have a great day!
I lubed the flame control valve / graphite collar with silicone grease. It’s super smooth now, no squeaks
I have the G43S
Ok thanks for the tip next time I have a free moment I will do it to mine.
pretty good product for its price
Agreed!
Mine arrived the same way - professionally packed / very well padded 👍
Its funny that we are in the 2020's and we are surprised when company's actually pack things right. I think that says alot of things about the world we live in. thanks for the comment and views.
A 3-inch piece of plastic drinking straw can be used to extract fuel from the tank. Just put your finger over the top to hold the fuel inside until you're ready to release it.
I found a 3" piece of fuel line works better. Plus in some states possession of a plastic drinking straw is a horrible crime according to some people.
Other reviewers have said that the "silent" burner is nearly useless! The blast-furnace burner works great. Boils water very fast and can be adjusted down to a medium simmer.
Very true, kind of disappointing but it is what it is
I'm very interested in the kerosene/diesel version. Useful when I've already got jerry cans of diesel for my van.
Looks better than the cheapo Indian kerosene pressure stoves anyway.
if you get one and try it out let me know how it works.
I bought one . I only used gasoline so far . The green one without the " silent burner " . I was mad at first . Awww . I wanted blue pretty flame holes . Wahhh .
I almost made the bell thing out od deadbolt door lock parts and dor knob handles and now im alright . At least mine has the air pump and fuel line generator tube and isn't a fuel oressure grenade .
I would recomend the open burner top green one i got . If i want blu i have a big coleman .
@@gregorydahlWhich brand? Is that the green APG one?
which stove are you talking about? Do you have a link?
Also please note: the mix of stove material [stainless, aluminum, brass] can and WILL result in "electrolytic corrosion". Just a question of "when" NOT "if"! Old swedish, european, and Coleman stoves lasted (&still do) so long because they didn't mix metals to prevent this. Those OLD swedes and colemans were made to "pass on" to your great-grandkids ! NOT so the cheap chinese stuff.
TIME is the "true" test of quality !!
Time is the true test, 100% agree.
0 degree celsius is when water starts to freeze.
Winter with snow you are definitly below 0
@martinerhard8447 Thanks for the info. Still getting used to the metric system. Old dog learning new tricks lol.
@@charlesartificer2158
Just think:
0°C = water freezes
100°C = water boils and gasifies
Maybe also good to know for outdoors: 60°C is when you can start to pasteurize water. But you can also get a WAPI to check this
@martinerhard8447 WAPI? I'm an old dog remember lol.
@@charlesartificer2158
WAter Pasteurisation Indicator
Its a fun little thingy that shows you at which point your water is pasteurized and safe to drink since boiling is overkill and a waste of fuel.
Of course people typically filter their water to make it drinkable .
@martinerhard8447 Ahhh ok. Never knew such a thing existed. In the Army here we had chemical tabs to purify water or were taught to boil for 5 minutes. Yes it is over kill and a waste of fuel. But I would rather have that than dysentery. Filters are cool but some of them cost a fortune.
They sell G41 Burners to go on G43's. The G43 Silent Burner is good for dry baking. We just need a G44 with improved fuel cap model.
Thanks for the info
I love mine had mine since Dec i use it at home 😂
Thanks for the comment and views
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예.
@@charlesartificer2158 Thank you!
@woogeul your welcome.
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Spray that burner cap with dry silicone spray lubricant after you use it….. it won’t rust if you spray it
Thanks for the tip.
What us the small round brass circle piece on your table when you were changing burners? A filter screen maybe?
Go to time 18:49 and you will find out.
Quiet burner has bad effekt. Maby 15-20% lower effekt 😢😢😢
Or more. the roaring burner is faster no doubt.
Love all the extras but... With all the heat from the stainless, and NO PRESSURE REIIEF VALVE,they should include a full face helmet and a schrapnel vest..
lol maybe. But in the 70's when I was young I played with lawn darts. Road in the bed of pickup trucks and did dozens of other things that make people clutch their pearls now.
@@charlesartificer2158 Best of luck!
Thanks you to.
Was that what we call petrol InScotland you put in the tank
Cool, white gas here in the states a highly refined gasoline. Thanks for the comment and views.
Nickel plate the cap maybe?
Thats one option.
Can we use it with alcohol?? Loved the stove!!
You can use alcohol to prime it. But the listed fuel for operation of the stove is Unleaded gasoline or White gas (Camping stove fuel).
@@charlesartificer2158 gasoline that cars use? or kerosene
@@TravisBatemanSoul it can use gasoline that you burn in your car. But white gas (Camping stove fuel) is recommended and will burn cleaner.
@@charlesartificer2158 thank you
Hello, very nice review! Is there a pressure safety valve?
No pressure relief valve. thanks for the comment and views.
@@charlesartificer2158 thanks again
@@gregorydahl your welcome thanks for the views.
There's a reason that lixada and this is copied from svea123 (and R).Love the extras,but with no pressure relief valve,all the extras are just noise in your pockets as you're wheeled into E.R.!The 123's might cost a little more,what's your ass worth?🤠🇺🇲
Oh, it doesn't looks reliable does it?
It still works a year later. Long term decades from now who knows.
You didn't have enough fuel in the tank to start with.
Filled it to the full line.
-4 Degrees Celsius
Thanks
Did u fill the preheat cup up full? I fill mine up let it burn till it almost burns out then i trigger it no hard start ( yes i use quiet burner)
First time no but after using it a while I got the hang of it. Thanks for the comment and views.
Silent burner are not effektiv
Yes
Does the gasoline lives any smell while burning?
I was using White gas in this stove and I could not detect any odor. If you use Unleaded gasoline I imagine it would smell like a running car. Thanks for the comment and views.
So the CCP has stolen the Svea 123 and made it with stainless steel and an aluminum cap? (not a good combination if you mis-thread it). The original svea burner cup works great but the silent burner cup has issues. I say, go buy the SVEA 123 and see if it fits in the cook kit for the G43.
Agreed on the cap. Someday I will have a svea 123. Waiting for that garage sale find. Thanks for the comment and views.
Much to complicated this thing. Get a Coleman and have fun..
LMAO!!!! Thanks for the laugh have a good night!
17 mins to boil thats no good..
it is slow lol
Another Chinese Svea 123 clone.
Another comment for the algorithm.
POOR clone of Swedish Svea 123(R). While the silent burner head is nice, WATCH OUT => NO SAFETY VALVE as on Svea models !! Self pressurized gas stove WITHOUT Safety-valve is BAD [think Bomb] !!
Yes I do know that and did cover it in the video.
Thanks for the in depth review. For your cold starts,i'd invest in some denatured alcohol,it burns way hotter,slower, for a better prime,espfor silent burner,and your cold stuff,also good if you only have a little bit of fuel left,this can b saved for cooking only,if yr out and about,cold and hungry....thats normally when you run out of fuel !!!
I saw these stoves a while back,wondered how they'd go. So you did the leg work for me. Thanks.
I got 1 Max Sievert Svea123,1 Svea123 and 1 Svea123r. ('r' denotes cleaning needle in later models,not present in early Svea 123)
They are brilliant,you will love it wheen you find one in the palm of your hand. Careful !!.....you will part with some cash soon after!!!
Gonna hang on to the Swedish connection,easier access,better engineering,always fires, My oldest Svea is nearing 65 and powers!! It'll be going for another 100yrs. It will definately outlast me,whoever i bequeath it to...hee hee,it will outlast them too!!!
I don't think the Svea 123 is made in Sweden anymore. Pretty sure it's made in Taiwan or something. Where I am in Canada on Amazon this stove is the same price as the Svea is so I would still go for the Svea but a lot of people have said the quality of the Svea's has gone drastically downhill