Thank you for this it reassured me so much! I’m only 7 months the into learning violin and today bowing seemed different. Turns out I’ve actually started holding it right! There is such a difference in how everything flows and I have noticed less irritation in my arm! (tennis elbow type thing from bowing wrong boo). I’ll watch your other videos, I like your concise speaking style and how clear your demonstrations were. It helped me immensely!
I've been looking for the perfect and clearest video for the perfect bow hold for a long time. I think I finally found it. Thanks, now I'm satisfied that I'm learning it right.
Look at the photo of Jascha Heifetz bow hand . Notice the short tidy nails . Most pictures of Heifetz show him leaning backwards .That`s just a cameraman`s habit
Thank you very much for your teaching video, which is very helpful to my daughter. My daughter will be 5 years old in August this year. She has only been learning violin enlightenment for 3 weeks but piano & sight singing & ear training for 10 months.
Been playing for 12 years.....need to years for my degree to finally realise from an other teacher that my bow holding is entirely wrong.....can you imagine how i feel? 😞😞😞....i started watching today a few videos to understand how to correct it.....i feel like i start all over again... everyone has its own bow hold....i am confused...
Thank you for the video Eric! I'm a low advanced violinist playing for 7 years now, and as my repertoire increased in difficulty, I suddenly noticed the bow not doing what it should do. Main problems I figured ar that I often tilt my bow very strong when closer to the frog and having a feeling of it almost dropping out of my hand after some very hard and quick passages. My thumb often presses very very hard against that little black thing (beneath the thumb leather, where you're supposed to keep the thumb on) and it hurts a lot. This usually happens after some hard passages as well. Every time I notice something like this I try to correct my bow hold and then go on, but it seems to me, that firstly is unable to be prevented when playing e.g. fast spiccato passages, and secondly impossible for me, to hold the bow really straight. It is always a little tilted outwards (so that the wood touches the strings) and it damages my sound a lot. Sorry for the bad description, and if something is unclear, I can try to describe thr problem closer. Do you have some tips for me, I would truly appreciate it! Best regards from Germany
No matter what, the hand should feel flexible at all times with the bow. This goes for applying weight, and playing other bow strokes. The right hand should technically not hold the bow, it rests on the strings of your violin and you simply guide the bow to how your sound wants to be. That will take the tension out of your hand and be more flexible.
My fingers do not slide up the bow. I am having trouble holding the bow! While practicing, my thumb goes straight; when I fix that issue, my 2nd and 3rd fingers begin to lift up. Soon, my thumb is throbbing and I am dropping the bow. I have viewed your videos many, many times......nothing seems to work for me!
@@erictheviolinist Hi Eric , tryed it brilliant , I felt in control of the violin bow i was over stretching little finger so that's corrected using more lower bow thank you
My violin teacher has been trying to get me to keep my pinky down, but never said anything about the placement of the pinky as it touches the bow. I will try what you suggest. It makes sense to me.
I hadn't thought to teach the bow hold with them holding it straight up. I've seen pinkies like that starting out but I just had the kids support most of the weight with their left hand holding the stick. This might be easier since it frees one hand while still making it lighter. I've seen some people have the hold a little higher with the pinky over the frog's eye instead. Is there any real difference in doing that?
I started doing this not too long ago with a fresh new beginner and seeing good results from the ground up. (Granted this student is 5 years old and is continuing to develop her motor reflexes) also, I don’t think it’s necessarily a faster way to go, but it could set a stronger foundation (and less hassle for you) in the long run. I’ll let you know how it goes! 😊
Yeah, I found that the easiest way for me to teach a bow hold is through the Franco-Belgian bow hold. Lots of great violinists use the Russian bow grip, certainly not a wrong way to do it!
I remember having a perfect bow hold. Then I played baroque exclusively for two years and now my hand goes up almost half way from frog to balancing point unless I'm deliberately focusing on holding it right. :,)
It took me several months to get the bow grip right. My pinky finger was terrible, and my thumb was what another online violinist describes as banana thumb.
I watched two videos before this and all I can say is my teacher is an idiot he asked me to hold my thumb at the beginning of the winding and the pinky near the end of the padding. My palm aches like hell and the every finger seems fatigued.
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Thank you for this it reassured me so much! I’m only 7 months the into learning violin and today bowing seemed different. Turns out I’ve actually started holding it right! There is such a difference in how everything flows and I have noticed less irritation in my arm! (tennis elbow type thing from bowing wrong boo). I’ll watch your other videos, I like your concise speaking style and how clear your demonstrations were. It helped me immensely!
I’m glad it helped! Thanks for watching and being a part of the community 😊
I've been looking for the perfect and clearest video for the perfect bow hold for a long time. I think I finally found it. Thanks, now I'm satisfied that I'm learning it right.
Look at the photo of Jascha Heifetz bow hand . Notice the short tidy nails . Most pictures of Heifetz show him leaning backwards .That`s just a cameraman`s habit
This pinky tip probably solved my bowing technique problems 😊
I’m happy to hear that :-)
Thank you very much for your teaching video, which is very helpful to my daughter. My daughter will be 5 years old in August this year. She has only been learning violin enlightenment for 3 weeks but piano & sight singing & ear training for 10 months.
You're welcome! I hope it helps. Thanks for watching and joining our community.
Been playing for 12 years.....need to years for my degree to finally realise from an other teacher that my bow holding is entirely wrong.....can you imagine how i feel? 😞😞😞....i started watching today a few videos to understand how to correct it.....i feel like i start all over again... everyone has its own bow hold....i am confused...
Bow holds take time, keep at it
Same here!!
Thank you for the video Eric!
I'm a low advanced violinist playing for 7 years now, and as my repertoire increased in difficulty, I suddenly noticed the bow not doing what it should do.
Main problems I figured ar that I often tilt my bow very strong when closer to the frog and having a feeling of it almost dropping out of my hand after some very hard and quick passages. My thumb often presses very very hard against that little black thing (beneath the thumb leather, where you're supposed to keep the thumb on) and it hurts a lot. This usually happens after some hard passages as well.
Every time I notice something like this I try to correct my bow hold and then go on, but it seems to me, that firstly is unable to be prevented when playing e.g. fast spiccato passages, and secondly impossible for me, to hold the bow really straight. It is always a little tilted outwards (so that the wood touches the strings) and it damages my sound a lot.
Sorry for the bad description, and if something is unclear, I can try to describe thr problem closer.
Do you have some tips for me, I would truly appreciate it!
Best regards from Germany
No matter what, the hand should feel flexible at all times with the bow. This goes for applying weight, and playing other bow strokes. The right hand should technically not hold the bow, it rests on the strings of your violin and you simply guide the bow to how your sound wants to be. That will take the tension out of your hand and be more flexible.
It's my first day with my new violin, this was very helpful. Thank you🎻!
You’re welcome 😉
Great information. I needed the Baroque bow example.
Many of my American fiddler friends grip the bow closer to its middle, and they still produce a fantastic sound.
Awesome!! Very Helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
My fingers do not slide up the bow. I am having trouble holding the bow! While practicing, my thumb goes straight; when I fix
that issue, my 2nd and 3rd fingers begin to lift up. Soon, my thumb is throbbing and I am dropping the bow. I have viewed your videos many, many times......nothing seems to work for me!
Ill try that tomorrow 😊
Let me know how it goes 😊✌🏻
@@erictheviolinist Hi Eric , tryed it brilliant , I felt in control of the violin bow i was over stretching little finger so that's corrected using more lower bow thank you
My violin teacher has been trying to get me to keep my pinky down, but never said anything about the placement of the pinky as it touches the bow.
I will try what you suggest. It makes sense to me.
Try it and see if it works!
Bottom line: if you don’t want your thumb to move up, make it stay in its place.
Dude, you’re a genius.
I hadn't thought to teach the bow hold with them holding it straight up. I've seen pinkies like that starting out but I just had the kids support most of the weight with their left hand holding the stick. This might be easier since it frees one hand while still making it lighter. I've seen some people have the hold a little higher with the pinky over the frog's eye instead. Is there any real difference in doing that?
I started doing this not too long ago with a fresh new beginner and seeing good results from the ground up. (Granted this student is 5 years old and is continuing to develop her motor reflexes) also, I don’t think it’s necessarily a faster way to go, but it could set a stronger foundation (and less hassle for you) in the long run. I’ll let you know how it goes! 😊
The Old Russian bow hold works best for me but can see where your advise would be helpful for those using the Franco-Belgian bow grip.
Yeah, I found that the easiest way for me to teach a bow hold is through the Franco-Belgian bow hold. Lots of great violinists use the Russian bow grip, certainly not a wrong way to do it!
I remember having a perfect bow hold. Then I played baroque exclusively for two years and now my hand goes up almost half way from frog to balancing point unless I'm deliberately focusing on holding it right. :,)
That’ll happen 😅
So is holding the bow supposed to hurt after a bit (10 mins)
no
It took me several months to get the bow grip right. My pinky finger was terrible, and my thumb was what another online violinist describes as banana thumb.
Well i play for 7 years and still it's imperfect 😀😅
@@ly2867 nobody is perfect. We know there are some famous violinists and none of them are exactly the same.
Спасибо ,что есть русский перевод❤
I guess my thumb is wrong. My thumb was like 90 degree lol
Make sure to relax the thumb when working on the bow hold. Students often squeeze into the bow which causes tension.
I watched two videos before this and all I can say is my teacher is an idiot he asked me to hold my thumb at the beginning of the winding and the pinky near the end of the padding.
My palm aches like hell and the every finger seems fatigued.
“Right hand and particularly the bow hand”
Yeah my bad on that, haha. Still trying to get comfortable in front of the camera 😅
Another lousy video. On to the next...olaf will have a good video...i hope.