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To "farm" Abstruse Sigils and the like you might want to start salvaging Unique items. They usually salvage for 20 Sigils which is a lot more than from Legendary items and you actually lose less gold while doing so and you will have tons of Unique items from farming the bosses.
small note for whisper farming, keep your eye out for the seasonal dungeon breaches. Usually one of the three is marked with a +5 reward. The one near Duriel with the soulspires is... not so good, but the other two you can clear in under 2 minutes just zipping thru. Nice way to keep farming whispers while Helltide is down for 5 minutes.
@@Malam_13 but it functioned as a regular AH too. People could have just not used the real money function. But nooooo PC gamers did what they do best. Bitch and cry and now we get nothing
The rota meta is pretty miserable as a solo/SSF player, yeah. A simple fix would be to up the mythic drop rate but make it so that mythics could only drop for the person who burned the mats to summon (just like when you summon the lesser bosses the only person who gets summoning mats like shards or eggs is the one who summoned). This way carries would still be an option but the experience would be more level for all players based on time played and not social investment.
I mean just type in trade I have 3 summons who wants to do rotations I mean only reason you can't benefit from rotation is you want to be I mean I play with a SMALL group me and 3 people off and on my group has like 40+ mythics between us the drop chances are pretty high I got a double shako drop in 1 runs multiple back to backs in my group if you do 30-60 runs you will have multiple mythic for sure my guy
I don't get why people are complaining that farming is faster when you are playing in a group... Like no shit? More people = faster clear, why does that need to change?
Idk about efficiency in terms of overall mats, but I find chaining NMDs for distilled fear to be faster than getting living steel from helltides. Speedfarming with LS sorc I average 2min per run including leveling glyphs + tping to next NMD, this is regardless of the layout of NMDs. 9 NMDs at 2min each = 1 tormented beast run/18min so in 1hr I can get 3 runs or 4 in 1hr12min. I don't think I can get 4 runs worth of living steel from helltides. Plus you get straggler boss mats from random elites in NMDs, I'd argue beast in ice is more efficient if all you care about was mythics/resplendant spark.
they do this on purpose. They make sure that things don’t become too convenient or else their player retention graphs will start going down. Same reason they still haven’t fixed tempering and masterworking to make it less rng
@@LordAtlas10 it kind of backfires though. All of my try hard friends are dropping off because of frustrations like this. Personally I’m trying to farm a good ga winterglass and the reduced blood drops is really aggravating! I found two separate ga winterglass yesterday but the rolls made them worse than non ga ones with good rolls. I’ll prob end up quitting the season out of boredom before I can find a ga cdr shako or ga winterglass with the right rolls.
@@LordAtlas10I would much rather have a “finished” character and go make a new one instead of not being able to farm a build defining unique that I have to spend 15x the time farming the materials it takes to farm the boss.
I think the only way I'll sell something in D4 is if they add an auction house (which I desperately want) I'm far too antisocial to engage in the tedious in game trade system. I want to list items before bed. Wake up to multiple sales the next morning
If you can do T7 or T8 hordes then you don't even really need any items or improvement anymore. 🙂 The point of masterworking and mythic items should be to empower characters to be able to take on the biggest challenges in the game. Instead, those challenges (bosses + hordes) give those items and mats. So if you're already powerful enough to kill tormented bosses then why do you even need mythics and such?
Any fun leveling tips? Hitting a lvl 1 hardcore rogue today. I have all mythics Obviously gonna throw andariels and tyraels, doombringer, then selig and starless if needed
It’s a deflating feeling for sure, I stumbled across a double GA fist of fate on crit & lucky hit chance, but only got 9% on the actual proc chance lol
The only thing is Wudijo you talk about “Stygian stones drop from tier 6” but without a mythic unique the inferno hordes are not so easy to do without already having a mythic
If you find a couple GA items and just masterwork everything to 8 it's easily possible to do t6+ without mythics. Also you'll get some stones from the season journey and mother's gift
Should also add that the season dungeons are great for whispers. 5 per and they are very quick (I just skip the masses one which is bottom left). Also if you make a 2nd char for the spark you can do blood witch and seasonal dungeon and whatever other quick whispers pop up in the helltide then switch chars and do them again.
I've played Fireball Sorc and was farming T5 (I could not make T6, I've died too easly) when I've killed Tormented Duriel and Andariel. Wasn't easy and short, plus I was shit at dodging attacks that give debuff, but after 6-7 tries I've killed Duriel. Andariel was a one-shot. She's was much easier for me as Sorc.
@@Numik86 Andariel is pretty simple yes. She looks intimidating but everything is predictable and reasonably well telegraphed. There's a lot to keep track of but once you have it down it's easy to filter out the attacks that don't matter.
@@EvilDrDude I know, should be no problem if you can run hordes tier 6. You just have to play some of the mechanics as ps might not be enough to push him (or any other tormented boss) over before they start their mechanics. Alternatively you should be tanky enough to just ignore them anyway. Normal Duriel should be possible at lvl 80 with a decent (leveling) build.
That crimson market has been terrible for me so far. I trued it out this season, and everytime i list an item, it disappears from "my listings" after a few minutes. Maybe its just been my experience and its not normal but this had been a consistent problem for me.
I have an idea but it may seem too easy for some players. What if instead of dropping a resplendent spark the tormented boss would drop a mythic unique?
I spent forever to get to craft the shako and now this week alone I received teyreal might, pain gorgers, umbracrux, starless skies. And I seem to be having issues with tier 7 hordes. Wat would you suggest I do with the gear that I have?
I just opened 4 chests in HT and didn't get a single runeshard. Yesterday I got 3 per chest. They seem to have put an old bug back in with the latest patch from last night.
Carry 90+ NM dungeons for a party of 3 for for their fear at the end of the run. Thats 12 fears per run, almost all the materials in 2 runs. That equates to 4 Tormented runs for running 2 NM dungeons
So hard to get boss materials, farmed helltide for a few houers and got materials to summon like 1 boss. Takes forever to get materials now. Have like 40 stygian stones but cant summon any boss without the boss materials. And dont want to do wispers and days of helltide farming.
Summoning Grigoire tskes 15 living steel. There are 2 living steel chests available every hour, each one gives 5. Every tother chest gives 1. You can literally get enough mats for a Grigoire every hour.
Old comment, but yes, you can. I crafted my Ring of Starless Skies, and I got a GA LHC. I've made 3 more Andariel's Visage since then with no GA, so it's as rare as you would expect. It's possible, though.
are drop rates in favor of group play? I know it's best to be in group vs. solo, but I just ran solo Tormented versions of Grigoire 7 times, Varshan 5 times, and Duriel 4 times and got zero Mythical items.
Well of course they are. If you had ran those in a rotation, you would have been able to kill 4x as many bosses and still contributed the same amount of materials. It can be hard to find a group, especially on console from what I hear. Utilize the discord servers
You HAVE TO team up with other players if you want those mythics. You literally get +3 more runs with your 1 rotation of mats... Say a total of 4 runs for just 15 living steels.
Cheers for this, it's a tough Rodeo going at it on ya own, looking forward to that mercenaries option, be good to have an A.I companion I can Level up on my travels that sticks with me without distraction and randomly giving up, hay Wudijo do you have a cool down game? Like a respite and recovery game? sometimes on a rare occasion I have a bit of time to play for a good few hours, I need a good respite and recovery game, kinda like the intermission ya get when you're watching a long movie, Cool down game I've been playing is Thaumaturge, it surprised me how much I enjoyed that, I play that for a bit then I'm back at Diablo 4 again trying to solo as much as I can, I'm looking forward to that Mercenaries mode i finally look forward to a reliable companion
I Have my Mythics and Uniques but i dont get dropped legendary Manuals.... Any tipps? I run Hell Dungeons and Blood Maiden like Crazy and they dont drop... Some Manuals not even the Blue ones...
The last season for me tho. Played over 20 characters in hardcore since beta Ashava. D4 has top graphic and something enjoyable but sucks for a solo player especially in hardcore made to be more and more painful now.
I wish the apothecary just let us transmute all our boss summoning materials so we can just convert them all to the boss materials we want. Basically farming living steel and converting it to other mats.
How to farm boss trophies: get one stygian stone and have it magicly multiply by joining a group. Anyway great info Wudi, thank you. I am just salty about using all my stygian stones for nothing as a SSF player. I even had to get most of my unique drops for my druid from sources other than bosses - took a long time. It's going to be another season like last one where my one unique came from the Pit because it will take me a while to farm back those 18 stygian stone I just wasted from my two characters this season combined.
Malignant hearts and blood drops need an absolutely massive drop buff or the cost to summon zir and Varshan needs to be significantly reduced cuz the time it takes on average to get the mats for those bosses is atleast 10x longer or more than other bosses with the same mat costs
Funnily enough I couldn't get enough blood last season whilst getting barely any malignant hearts. They flipped flopped this season and now I have 2 times more hearts than the rest of varshan's mats. Barely any blood.
I'm using 725 unique boots on my druid cause I can't get the blood. Done 4 tormented Zir and still haven't seen a 925 pair 😢 should really be 15 per summon instead of 27
The real questions are: - How you get from 0 to 100 (Helltides, NMD around what lvl), then being able to tackle Hordes Tier 1 (monster lvl 70?), 2 (85?), 3 (100), 4 (120), 5 (140) 6 (160) 7 (180) and 8 (200), same as Tormented bosses, now gettting MYTHICS and THEN! You can have your chance to kill Lilith? - Do you stop leveling at 60 and do only NMD to lvl up and getting your lvl 21 glyphes out of the way? How do you know Which glyphs is the best for X setup build (Let's say I want a Fireball build, the way I do it versus pros for Paragon are wayyyyy off. Still, I can survive pretty well.. And instead of playing in group, playing SOLO. The way you pros tells it's easy, even to get the first 3 shards, most people don't even get that far and go to do one Main and then 3 ALTS to make their first Mythic, then 4 more ALTS for their second,..
Instead of making so many alts for sparks just put those hours into grinding 1 char. I have 3 sparks, 1 from season journey, 1 from lilith and 1 from tormented boss. Got my first ever mythic drop yesterday since D4 launch
@@DanS436 Good for you! By the same token, I already have my Tyrael.. Then next, Blood Surge Necro to 100, then Duriel and Liltih. after that, one easy Alt to lvl 100 and boom! Shako. Enjoy the game!
Am i lucking out on my drops ?? I got tyraels shako ans starless skies. I even switched from nec to sorc cause that lightning spear damage is just bonkers..
hardest still is to get the stygian stones, which you need to get a shot at mythic uniques. To get them is to run hordes T6, but to run hordes T6 you need mythic uniques. I can get to the council, but then lack the dps to kill the council.. It's like a glass sealing you need to get through.. (as solo console player)
Stones are honestly the easiest and just come as a byproduct from running hordes. If you aren't able to run hordes (T6+) without mythics, I would consider reevaluating your build. Check all the basics: res cap, armor cap, correct affixes, correct legendary powers, masterwork to 8, paragon boards, glyphs to 21
I used the fireball sorc build to solo t6 hordes early on. Requires zero mythicals and is a very fun and consistant build. I knew I would want to eventually play the lightning spear build so I figured level a sorc to 100 with a buildthats easy to self farm the gear early and swap after I got my winterglass and shako. It took 3 days from lvl 1 sorc to converting to LS and soloing t7 hordes deathless 100%. Just gotta put in the time and have the right build I guess. Gl man
Also, farming gold in t6 (comparable ammount vs. T7) and buying a winterglass will be much faster and easier then waiting to drop one yourself. Cheapest tormented boss to kill/buy mats for is grigore. I would recommend farming gold to buy steel and doing rotas for grig for your most cost efficient way of speed farming mythicals.
@@chriscross3115 Agree 100%, for the Fb sorc you basically only need 2 items. Then you can set the rest of your gear up to make sure you have enough defenses and scale your damage further. I did it pretty easily on HC and this is the first season I've even finally got a level 100 character.
I have no mythic uniques on my sorcerer and can run t7. Not even using lightning spear build or chain lightning. Sometimes you have to think outside the box.
It's unfortunate people don't do helltides, they were amazing last season and with the hordes rework, they almost disappeared. They need to find a balance to make both fun and rewarding
ssf andariel/flurry rogue here and ive gotten 7-8 ubers uniques, put in the effort and anything can be yours. currently destroying t7 hordes, waiting to min-max some more before moving up to t8. tysm for the tips! (desperately needed more iron chunks)
Really nice, I have yet to get lucky on the tormented bosses when it comes to my first ubers. Don't want to risk to craft my first one just to get the exact same item from the boss after lol
@whereswaldo6396 Yea man, tell me about it! My first mythic drop ever and it's the bloody spear 🤣 Good thing I have 3 sparks already, tonight I shall salvage the spear and have myself a Shako!
Ngl i was frustrated i did 31 tormented bosses and got 1 mythic (lycanders) which was trash for my sorc, however it made my 4th dpark and i made shako. Next 3 tormented bosses i got tyraels and ring of starless. Now im like....well i guess i can just farm GA mythics lol, need more endgame engagement
2 more tips: Farm those whisper quest and helltide on multiple characters every hour. If you have stash space left, make many nightmare dungeon sigils. The look at the map for dungeons with 5 whisper quests and do them as nightmare dungeon. Reward: 5 points, 3 fear, glyph exp
Boss mats farming is a cancerous idea and gameplay loop. I'd rather spam farm a boss an extra 100 times with lower drop rates than farm shitty mats. The issue is that every single game mode that is required to find mats is 1 million tiers beneath my character. It's boring as all fuck.
Sadly even with Shako my light spear sorc struggles on IH7.. so I need to farm some Neterion from pit 91 to master works my shako and GA Crit Dmg and GA MS Esu's to see if that gets me there. But really hurting for that Tyreals.
You don't actually need any of them. Decent chest piece with armor temper and an armor roll as one of the three base and the aspect that gives you 25 Dr from conjuration skills combined with snowvieled on a helm works just as well as shako and tyrials combo just not AS good. A really good necklace with shredding blades tempered with movement speed and crit with conjuration skills on one of the three base works fine in t7 just not AS good as fractured. The uniques take you to the next level of comfortability but you absolutely don't NEED any of them. I did everything that you would need them for this season without any including t8 and Lilith the mythics just finish it off and makes everything trivial. Something to work twords for sure but you have 2 months and they definitely aren't some end all be all magic solution. If you can't do it without them imo you shouldn't be using them. Get the skills first then make it easy once your capable. Way more fun
In order for light spear sorc to work.. you need top tier peices. Referring to every affix should be up there... the build was never made to farm.. it was made for after all sets and items are found and put together.
@@fitgamerdaddy7407 your wrong but I won't fight you man. Just telling you it worked 100 percent for me and everyone else who's listened to me. It's just a game regardless so do whatever your comfortable with.
Legion events give 900 and are available every 30 minutes. The other best source is tormented bosses. You get a full inventory of legendary and unique items per boss, slavage everything and get a bunch of rawhide.
@@Stuwi I didn’t know that about legion events. I basically ignore them. lol And ever since I got low on rawhide I feel like I get more rings amulets and weapons than I do armor lol.
So ...First level up your character and gear until your capable of doing tier 6-7 pits .. THEN....do between 8-10 pits to aquire ONE SINGLE STONE .. THEN.....take your stone and summon and defeat a tormented boss... (Make sure you have enough summoning materials) THEN.... hopefully the boss will drop purple colored mythic items. Sounds easy enough...🙄
It is absolutely no way it's a 7.5% chance to drop a mystical item. I'm up to 130 torment boss kills and got my first one to drop at around 110 kills. This season is the worst so far for equipment grinding leaving many players crippled and not being able to pick up any aspects worthwhile and then if you do find something you got to pray that temp gives you some kind of luck without completely bricking the item it took so many hours to get.
I dont agree with any of the drop rates for mythics. Legit solod almost 50 tormented bossed (minus andariel) and not a single mythic dropped. “1 in 10” bosses is def the streamer boosted drop.
*updated* have now spent 300+ blood for zir, ~200 living steel, 60+ duriel, another ~200 distilled fear. Both tormented AND normal. And ZERO mythics. ZERO!! Whatever these “drop rates” are, they are def not correct. Favorited streamers def have the higher advantage probabilities than average.
Why do we forced to farm bosses with groups ? yes, everyone can farm solo but its a waste of mats, so eventually you need to farm with groups waiting for others to be ready, leechers, guys who run out of mats after 1 run, that`s totally crap, they have to redesign dungeon system that not sucks
Distilled Fear needs more sources or make it cost less than 27 to summon his ass. 3 per tier 100 is shid doodoo caca. 9 nightmare dungeons for 1 summon is frustrating. I think I'll just farm gold and buy them.
I literally just sell items and buy mats. That’s the most efficient way to get boss materials. I literally bought and spawned 30 bosses last night from playing and selling items. As a solo player - maybe 4 hours of playtime
crazy my trade chat is always full of people who dont wanna do anything. meanwhile my homie in discord chat trade channel is always doing rota's. not sure why we all dont see the same trade chat
With the helltide hearts being so scarse if you don't want to tryhard with 3-4 parties doing rotas at bloodmaiden exquisite blood is absolute dogwater to farm right now they absolutely ruined helltide and with it any chances of reliably farming Zir items with that nerf. To my surprise they buffed the already OP hellborne strat in TH but haven't even mentioned the problem they've caused in a system they had finally fixed after 4 seasons... I feel like they should either/or 1) revert the nerfs so it's just back to normal and everyone can hail mary spam the crap out of blood maiden without worries, 2) scale blood gain with the number of hearts you've put in so people don't get stingy and more than that, if you need to plug 3 of your own just to get the run going you're not actively scamming yourself, 3) make Zir much less expensive, he's currently still priced at 9 while the difficulty makes him a 5 at most but maybe even cheaper, 4) give us an alternative mainline for exquisite blood farming so we singleplayers aren't forced to sit out 3 helltides for a single uber zir with the damn staring contests going on and also considering the fact you gotta farm hearts all the time as well.
I think all this seasonal character building/farming, then sending our characters to the eternal realm should not be a focus of retirement for them. What I mean is. ONCE our characters, those we don't delete seasonally are sent to the eternal realm, there needs to be a God tier challenge awaiting them ONLY FOUND IN ETERNAL REALM. Something so stupid Uber hard, it is going to test our greatest seasonal builds. Something with playability and benchmark, making eternal realm mean something aside from seasons. As it stands now, our characters are basically being put out to pasture and I have no problem deleting them.....That is a problem. It's a problem I am not torn between this or that because it doesn't exist for eternal...Why even have it.
I would say materials are waaaay off balance. It is very easy to get iron, but others are very-very bad. Worst are the blood and fear... And on top of that up until today patch you only got 1 from ice beast as tormented...
This has been my experience since the game came out. I've only ever gotten 1 uber unique and that was season 2, even though I've gotten a character to 100 every season. I've had friends get 10 of them in a single farming session but I never get 1
@@moti6151 I wouldn't say a lot, but 50-100 duriel kills plus all the Grigoire and varshawn kills needed for the materials and the equivalent in zir and beast in ice kills, so you'd think I'd get at least 1 in a season
I think most people just dont have the time to play like streamers do....4 hours a day is what most people get and after a week the streamers have played 84 hours and a normal player has played 28 max....and the normal player cant get these fast groups cause they simply arent online enough.
3 blood from world boss, takes 27 blood for 1 Torment run, so you just have to farm the world boss 9 times for 1 Torment boss run. .......................................... Seems legit, world boss loot OP Confirmed
I have tried to use CM so hard, especially because you push it. Its trash. Its wonkey, and really has no user base. D.T is so much better. Your bots cleaning up the messages saying CM sucks is pretty comical though.
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To "farm" Abstruse Sigils and the like you might want to start salvaging Unique items. They usually salvage for 20 Sigils which is a lot more than from Legendary items and you actually lose less gold while doing so and you will have tons of Unique items from farming the bosses.
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@@samjohnson4858 And its overwolf. Nein. Lets not split trading further than d2jsp/diablo trade.
A nice addition specifically for solo play would be a npc black market merchant that resets everyday with a different rotation of boss mats
small note for whisper farming, keep your eye out for the seasonal dungeon breaches. Usually one of the three is marked with a +5 reward. The one near Duriel with the soulspires is... not so good, but the other two you can clear in under 2 minutes just zipping thru. Nice way to keep farming whispers while Helltide is down for 5 minutes.
All i what for D4 is Auction house to sell or buy items in game and a group or party finder for tormented boss rotations.
After the entitled whiners in D3 I doubt we will ever see am AH again. Which is nuts considering how much it will add to the game.
@@SoldmysoulforablurayplayerIt was a real money AH. Not even close to what players want
@@Malam_13 but it functioned as a regular AH too. People could have just not used the real money function. But nooooo PC gamers did what they do best. Bitch and cry and now we get nothing
Not really needed.
Party finder would be lovely
Boss farming is horrible as a solo player, I wish Blizzard would find a way for the solo players.
im just stuck farming the materials its so boring and takes ages
The rota meta is pretty miserable as a solo/SSF player, yeah. A simple fix would be to up the mythic drop rate but make it so that mythics could only drop for the person who burned the mats to summon (just like when you summon the lesser bosses the only person who gets summoning mats like shards or eggs is the one who summoned). This way carries would still be an option but the experience would be more level for all players based on time played and not social investment.
I mean just type in trade I have 3 summons who wants to do rotations I mean only reason you can't benefit from rotation is you want to be I mean I play with a SMALL group me and 3 people off and on my group has like 40+ mythics between us the drop chances are pretty high I got a double shako drop in 1 runs multiple back to backs in my group if you do 30-60 runs you will have multiple mythic for sure my guy
Solo playing is meant to be harder
I don't get why people are complaining that farming is faster when you are playing in a group... Like no shit? More people = faster clear, why does that need to change?
Idk about efficiency in terms of overall mats, but I find chaining NMDs for distilled fear to be faster than getting living steel from helltides. Speedfarming with LS sorc I average 2min per run including leveling glyphs + tping to next NMD, this is regardless of the layout of NMDs. 9 NMDs at 2min each = 1 tormented beast run/18min so in 1hr I can get 3 runs or 4 in 1hr12min. I don't think I can get 4 runs worth of living steel from helltides. Plus you get straggler boss mats from random elites in NMDs, I'd argue beast in ice is more efficient if all you care about was mythics/resplendant spark.
So annoying they nerfed the blood drops. Used to get 3-4 per maiden kill and now it’s just 1. Completely undisclosed change too. Typical blizzard
Would love to see the Profane Mindcage 3x stacking work the same way as the Stygian Stones and triple the boss mats drop.
they do this on purpose. They make sure that things don’t become too convenient or else their player retention graphs will start going down. Same reason they still haven’t fixed tempering and masterworking to make it less rng
@@LordAtlas10 it kind of backfires though. All of my try hard friends are dropping off because of frustrations like this. Personally I’m trying to farm a good ga winterglass and the reduced blood drops is really aggravating!
I found two separate ga winterglass yesterday but the rolls made them worse than non ga ones with good rolls. I’ll prob end up quitting the season out of boredom before I can find a ga cdr shako or ga winterglass with the right rolls.
@@LordAtlas10I would much rather have a “finished” character and go make a new one instead of not being able to farm a build defining unique that I have to spend 15x the time farming the materials it takes to farm the boss.
@@youngwang5546Not try hards if they get frustrated from trying hard.
I think the only way I'll sell something in D4 is if they add an auction house (which I desperately want) I'm far too antisocial to engage in the tedious in game trade system. I want to list items before bed. Wake up to multiple sales the next morning
Yes, I’m still learning so this would also be great to be able to figure out good prices for the things I want/need.
If you can do T7 or T8 hordes then you don't even really need any items or improvement anymore. 🙂 The point of masterworking and mythic items should be to empower characters to be able to take on the biggest challenges in the game. Instead, those challenges (bosses + hordes) give those items and mats. So if you're already powerful enough to kill tormented bosses then why do you even need mythics and such?
Pretty much to min max builds. It's the way of the ARPG
I can do all Uber bosses and t8s and still get smoked in pvp. So always room for improvement.
Because blue item
That Pit tier 200 challenge still hasn't been met in game I think.
I think they should increase the cost of the living steel chest and change it so it drops Steel, hearts and blood.
Literally got your Flurry Andy's rogue 100 in a day. Amazing build my friend.
Any fun leveling tips? Hitting a lvl 1 hardcore rogue today.
I have all mythics
Obviously gonna throw andariels and tyraels, doombringer, then selig and starless if needed
I always hit the whispers in pvp zones , easy 10 from both bosses. Takes 2 minutes
Same plus the pvp currency after purifying is a nice little bonus.
Turning off cross-network play makes it easy to end up in an instance alone where nobody else killed the bosses.
I do this on hardcore. Perfect example of tragedy of the commons. If everyone came to pvp zones for whispers, no one would! 😂
That quad GA Fractured Winterglass is depressing with those shit special conjuration rolls.
yeah and he said 1b isn't enough LMAO. Like the damage loss from those bad stats is massive. No GA on earth is gonna make up for it.
It’s a deflating feeling for sure, I stumbled across a double GA fist of fate on crit & lucky hit chance, but only got 9% on the actual proc chance lol
Dont need ga on this amu
This is exactly what I needed Wudi, thanks
They need to reduce the cost of Torm BII and ZIR. Grigoire and Varshan just costs 15 anyway
The only thing is Wudijo you talk about “Stygian stones drop from tier 6” but without a mythic unique the inferno hordes are not so easy to do without already having a mythic
I farmed t6 without any mythic. Play better
If you find a couple GA items and just masterwork everything to 8 it's easily possible to do t6+ without mythics. Also you'll get some stones from the season journey and mother's gift
I’ve ran out of iron chunks for master working any suggestions?
Should also add that the season dungeons are great for whispers. 5 per and they are very quick (I just skip the masses one which is bottom left).
Also if you make a 2nd char for the spark you can do blood witch and seasonal dungeon and whatever other quick whispers pop up in the helltide then switch chars and do them again.
Learned a lot man! Appreciate it like you wouldn't know
When can I expect to clear tormented duriel solo? Like any specific pit tier I can compare to?
If you can run tier 6 Hordes you can kill Duriel, If you can run tier 7 you can push Duriel over like a bully!
I've played Fireball Sorc and was farming T5 (I could not make T6, I've died too easly) when I've killed Tormented Duriel and Andariel. Wasn't easy and short, plus I was shit at dodging attacks that give debuff, but after 6-7 tries I've killed Duriel. Andariel was a one-shot. She's was much easier for me as Sorc.
@@Numik86 Andariel is pretty simple yes. She looks intimidating but everything is predictable and reasonably well telegraphed. There's a lot to keep track of but once you have it down it's easy to filter out the attacks that don't matter.
@@EtBr1978 the question above is referring to tormented Duriel, not regular Duriel
@@EvilDrDude I know, should be no problem if you can run hordes tier 6. You just have to play some of the mechanics as ps might not be enough to push him (or any other tormented boss) over before they start their mechanics. Alternatively you should be tanky enough to just ignore them anyway. Normal Duriel should be possible at lvl 80 with a decent (leveling) build.
That crimson market has been terrible for me so far. I trued it out this season, and everytime i list an item, it disappears from "my listings" after a few minutes. Maybe its just been my experience and its not normal but this had been a consistent problem for me.
I have tried it for the last few seasons. ESPECIALLY on HC, its utter garbage. Diablo . trade is WAY better, and that says a lot.
Hey, sorry about that, we'll look into it.
I have an idea but it may seem too easy for some players. What if instead of dropping a resplendent spark the tormented boss would drop a mythic unique?
When are they deploying the autopin accessibility feature?
I spent forever to get to craft the shako and now this week alone I received teyreal might, pain gorgers, umbracrux, starless skies. And I seem to be having issues with tier 7 hordes. Wat would you suggest I do with the gear that I have?
Play lightning spear sorc.. done , the dmg and tankiness is outright stupid
I just opened 4 chests in HT and didn't get a single runeshard. Yesterday I got 3 per chest. They seem to have put an old bug back in with the latest patch from last night.
Good vid. May I ask why your andariel visage has 132,360 poison damage while on mine has only 120,300? I already mw it to 12/12.
So are the mythic drop chances the same with all tormented bosses. Like Grigoire and Duriel for example?
They are.
Carry 90+ NM dungeons for a party of 3 for for their fear at the end of the run. Thats 12 fears per run, almost all the materials in 2 runs. That equates to 4 Tormented runs for running 2 NM dungeons
What is fear? Just started playing
@@brunohanham3119 Its the thing that makes u stop doin stuff in life, it sucks..
@@R3TR1BUT1ONz Do you have the drop rates for it? lol
@@R3TR1BUT1ONz ahah
Ok but who would agree to that?
My friend got Andy from normal uber boss just like that. Tormented one is necessary at all cast?
So hard to get boss materials, farmed helltide for a few houers and got materials to summon like 1 boss. Takes forever to get materials now. Have like 40 stygian stones but cant summon any boss without the boss materials. And dont want to do wispers and days of helltide farming.
If you are good at infernal hordes you can get 80-100m per run and just buy all mats you need with that gold
Lots of others will share their mats so you can use the stones. Use trade chat say: my stones your mats lfg share! 40 stones!
Summoning Grigoire tskes 15 living steel. There are 2 living steel chests available every hour, each one gives 5. Every tother chest gives 1. You can literally get enough mats for a Grigoire every hour.
If you craft a mystic unique by using sparks, can they roll with a greater affix on them?
Old comment, but yes, you can. I crafted my Ring of Starless Skies, and I got a GA LHC. I've made 3 more Andariel's Visage since then with no GA, so it's as rare as you would expect. It's possible, though.
are drop rates in favor of group play? I know it's best to be in group vs. solo, but I just ran solo Tormented versions of Grigoire 7 times, Varshan 5 times, and Duriel 4 times and got zero Mythical items.
In fact, I have leveled 3 characters to 100 in all the available content and the only Mythical I've seen is the one I had to craft myself.
Well of course they are. If you had ran those in a rotation, you would have been able to kill 4x as many bosses and still contributed the same amount of materials. It can be hard to find a group, especially on console from what I hear. Utilize the discord servers
You HAVE TO team up with other players if you want those mythics. You literally get +3 more runs with your 1 rotation of mats... Say a total of 4 runs for just 15 living steels.
I finally crafted a shako, wat i really want to know is if i salvage it will i get my four resplendent sparks back?
No just one!
They should reward you for playing, after you farm enough mothers gift you get a boss materials from the box and can do Tubers
Does x3 mindcages increase boss mat drops in helltide? I am thinking just cinders and gold.
Can you talk at a detail about your optimal keybinding settings?
Cheers for this, it's a tough Rodeo going at it on ya own, looking forward to that mercenaries option, be good to have an A.I companion I can Level up on my travels that sticks with me without distraction and randomly giving up, hay Wudijo do you have a cool down game? Like a respite and recovery game? sometimes on a rare occasion I have a bit of time to play for a good few hours, I need a good respite and recovery game, kinda like the intermission ya get when you're watching a long movie, Cool down game I've been playing is Thaumaturge, it surprised me how much I enjoyed that, I play that for a bit then I'm back at Diablo 4 again trying to solo as much as I can, I'm looking forward to that Mercenaries mode i finally look forward to a reliable companion
Very good points!
I Have my Mythics and Uniques but i dont get dropped legendary Manuals.... Any tipps? I run Hell Dungeons and Blood Maiden like Crazy and they dont drop... Some Manuals not even the Blue ones...
Thanks for the video
The last season for me tho.
Played over 20 characters in hardcore since beta Ashava. D4 has top graphic and something enjoyable but sucks for a solo player especially in hardcore made to be more and more painful now.
I wish the apothecary just let us transmute all our boss summoning materials so we can just convert them all to the boss materials we want. Basically farming living steel and converting it to other mats.
how much babki do you make in the mont?
12:42 very nice 😆
How to farm boss trophies: get one stygian stone and have it magicly multiply by joining a group. Anyway great info Wudi, thank you. I am just salty about using all my stygian stones for nothing as a SSF player. I even had to get most of my unique drops for my druid from sources other than bosses - took a long time. It's going to be another season like last one where my one unique came from the Pit because it will take me a while to farm back those 18 stygian stone I just wasted from my two characters this season combined.
Better social and group making systems are in the works from my understanding and they simply can not come fast enough!
Malignant hearts and blood drops need an absolutely massive drop buff or the cost to summon zir and Varshan needs to be significantly reduced cuz the time it takes on average to get the mats for those bosses is atleast 10x longer or more than other bosses with the same mat costs
Funnily enough I couldn't get enough blood last season whilst getting barely any malignant hearts. They flipped flopped this season and now I have 2 times more hearts than the rest of varshan's mats. Barely any blood.
You don’t get a spark for every characters first tormented boss kill of the season. Not sure if you meant it that way.
I think he meant the seasonal rep.
I'm using 725 unique boots on my druid cause I can't get the blood. Done 4 tormented Zir and still haven't seen a 925 pair 😢 should really be 15 per summon instead of 27
The real questions are:
- How you get from 0 to 100 (Helltides, NMD around what lvl), then being able to tackle Hordes Tier 1 (monster lvl 70?), 2 (85?), 3 (100), 4 (120), 5 (140) 6 (160) 7 (180) and 8 (200), same as Tormented bosses, now gettting MYTHICS and THEN! You can have your chance to kill Lilith?
- Do you stop leveling at 60 and do only NMD to lvl up and getting your lvl 21 glyphes out of the way? How do you know Which glyphs is the best for X setup build (Let's say I want a Fireball build, the way I do it versus pros for Paragon are wayyyyy off. Still, I can survive pretty well..
And instead of playing in group, playing SOLO.
The way you pros tells it's easy, even to get the first 3 shards, most people don't even get that far and go to do one Main and then 3 ALTS to make their first Mythic, then 4 more ALTS for their second,..
Instead of making so many alts for sparks just put those hours into grinding 1 char. I have 3 sparks, 1 from season journey, 1 from lilith and 1 from tormented boss. Got my first ever mythic drop yesterday since D4 launch
@@DanS436 Good for you! By the same token, I already have my Tyrael..
Then next, Blood Surge Necro to 100, then Duriel and Liltih. after that, one easy Alt to lvl 100 and boom! Shako.
Enjoy the game!
Am i lucking out on my drops ?? I got tyraels shako ans starless skies. I even switched from nec to sorc cause that lightning spear damage is just bonkers..
Thanks!
hardest still is to get the stygian stones, which you need to get a shot at mythic uniques.
To get them is to run hordes T6, but to run hordes T6 you need mythic uniques.
I can get to the council, but then lack the dps to kill the council..
It's like a glass sealing you need to get through.. (as solo console player)
Stones are honestly the easiest and just come as a byproduct from running hordes. If you aren't able to run hordes (T6+) without mythics, I would consider reevaluating your build. Check all the basics: res cap, armor cap, correct affixes, correct legendary powers, masterwork to 8, paragon boards, glyphs to 21
I used the fireball sorc build to solo t6 hordes early on. Requires zero mythicals and is a very fun and consistant build. I knew I would want to eventually play the lightning spear build so I figured level a sorc to 100 with a buildthats easy to self farm the gear early and swap after I got my winterglass and shako. It took 3 days from lvl 1 sorc to converting to LS and soloing t7 hordes deathless 100%. Just gotta put in the time and have the right build I guess. Gl man
Also, farming gold in t6 (comparable ammount vs. T7) and buying a winterglass will be much faster and easier then waiting to drop one yourself. Cheapest tormented boss to kill/buy mats for is grigore. I would recommend farming gold to buy steel and doing rotas for grig for your most cost efficient way of speed farming mythicals.
@@chriscross3115 Agree 100%, for the Fb sorc you basically only need 2 items. Then you can set the rest of your gear up to make sure you have enough defenses and scale your damage further. I did it pretty easily on HC and this is the first season I've even finally got a level 100 character.
I have no mythic uniques on my sorcerer and can run t7. Not even using lightning spear build or chain lightning. Sometimes you have to think outside the box.
It's unfortunate people don't do helltides, they were amazing last season and with the hordes rework, they almost disappeared. They need to find a balance to make both fun and rewarding
Hekltides got nerfed.. thats why
another awesome vid!!
ssf andariel/flurry rogue here and ive gotten 7-8 ubers uniques, put in the effort and anything can be yours. currently destroying t7 hordes, waiting to min-max some more before moving up to t8. tysm for the tips! (desperately needed more iron chunks)
Really nice, I have yet to get lucky on the tormented bosses when it comes to my first ubers. Don't want to risk to craft my first one just to get the exact same item from the boss after lol
Can I ask a question? Do all tormented bosses drop mythics at the same rate? Or only duriel/andariel?
@@KingEdwardMMVIII from what ive been told, all tormented bosses have the same chance to drop mythics this season.
@@Obeseingame Thank you
15 tormented boss kills 30 regular duriel/andy kills no mythic yet unfortunately :(
I did 50+ tormented until I got 1
I got my first ever mythic drop yesterday. Only took 1100 hours 😂😂😂
And it was Ahavarion 🤦♂️
Damn that's rough lol worst mythic there is
@whereswaldo6396 Yea man, tell me about it! My first mythic drop ever and it's the bloody spear 🤣
Good thing I have 3 sparks already, tonight I shall salvage the spear and have myself a Shako!
@@EfficientRoguethat's where I'm at 60+ kills and got 1
Ngl i was frustrated i did 31 tormented bosses and got 1 mythic (lycanders) which was trash for my sorc, however it made my 4th dpark and i made shako.
Next 3 tormented bosses i got tyraels and ring of starless. Now im like....well i guess i can just farm GA mythics lol, need more endgame engagement
yea but wheres a good place to get a ton of bundled herbs...im always running out
Legions are great for bundled herbs
I got starless skies 3 x times 1x tyrael 1 andariel 1 doombringer i think about 50 insta kill boss runs. So that ratio is fine to me
Not sure about that 1 in 13 mythic drop rate. I’m over 50 runs and have gotten 1
thanks
2 more tips:
Farm those whisper quest and helltide on multiple characters every hour.
If you have stash space left, make many nightmare dungeon sigils. The look at the map for dungeons with 5 whisper quests and do them as nightmare dungeon. Reward: 5 points, 3 fear, glyph exp
Boss mats farming is a cancerous idea and gameplay loop. I'd rather spam farm a boss an extra 100 times with lower drop rates than farm shitty mats. The issue is that every single game mode that is required to find mats is 1 million tiers beneath my character. It's boring as all fuck.
Sadly even with Shako my light spear sorc struggles on IH7.. so I need to farm some Neterion from pit 91 to master works my shako and GA Crit Dmg and GA MS Esu's to see if that gets me there. But really hurting for that Tyreals.
You don't actually need any of them. Decent chest piece with armor temper and an armor roll as one of the three base and the aspect that gives you 25 Dr from conjuration skills combined with snowvieled on a helm works just as well as shako and tyrials combo just not AS good. A really good necklace with shredding blades tempered with movement speed and crit with conjuration skills on one of the three base works fine in t7 just not AS good as fractured. The uniques take you to the next level of comfortability but you absolutely don't NEED any of them. I did everything that you would need them for this season without any including t8 and Lilith the mythics just finish it off and makes everything trivial. Something to work twords for sure but you have 2 months and they definitely aren't some end all be all magic solution. If you can't do it without them imo you shouldn't be using them. Get the skills first then make it easy once your capable. Way more fun
@@XRaidenXxX oo solid point, I'll slide out Raiment of Infinite for chest that has that aspect. thanks
In order for light spear sorc to work.. you need top tier peices. Referring to every affix should be up there... the build was never made to farm.. it was made for after all sets and items are found and put together.
@@fitgamerdaddy7407 your wrong but I won't fight you man. Just telling you it worked 100 percent for me and everyone else who's listened to me. It's just a game regardless so do whatever your comfortable with.
@@XRaidenXxX Does this require like masterworking 12 on all pieces??
ty nice help ! )
Rawhide is so hard to come by :( and you didn’t mention it! lol
Legion events give 900 and are available every 30 minutes. The other best source is tormented bosses. You get a full inventory of legendary and unique items per boss, slavage everything and get a bunch of rawhide.
@@Stuwi I didn’t know that about legion events. I basically ignore them. lol
And ever since I got low on rawhide I feel like I get more rings amulets and weapons than I do armor lol.
i dont like the ticket for entry style of the boss rotation
I've literally killed over 200 tormented bosses in the last 2 days (including today) with 0 mythic drops... im super annoyed...
I've farmed over 60 tormented bosses with my friend and we stand at 11-1 for mythic unique drops. Either he's ultra unlucky or I'm blessed.
I got a double mythic drop on first boss first run. Me and my friend went like 15-1 after that
My wife got 2x shako , grand-papa, tyrael x2 doombringer , i got doombringer and grinded out my ross
Can anyone help me fix my map icons? The whole season, 1 to 100, i haven't had map event icons, wb whispers legions, nothing. Is there a fix for this?
It’s on the map. Bottom left corner should be a button for filters. It is up on the dpad for ps5. Not sure about pc. Hope that helps.
If you can do TIer 7 it's awesome drop Materials..
Us mortals struggling at Tier 5..
So ...First level up your character and gear until your capable of doing tier 6-7 pits ..
THEN....do between 8-10 pits to aquire ONE SINGLE STONE ..
THEN.....take your stone and summon and defeat a tormented boss... (Make sure you have enough summoning materials)
THEN.... hopefully the boss will drop purple colored mythic items.
Sounds easy enough...🙄
It is absolutely no way it's a 7.5% chance to drop a mystical item. I'm up to 130 torment boss kills and got my first one to drop at around 110 kills. This season is the worst so far for equipment grinding leaving many players crippled and not being able to pick up any aspects worthwhile and then if you do find something you got to pray that temp gives you some kind of luck without completely bricking the item it took so many hours to get.
130?! And I thought my luck was bad a 60+ and got 1 so far
my account is cursed, i've killed 55 torm bosses and not one mythic unique dropped.
Me and a buddy are 30 runs deep without a mythic/Uber it has been rough
I feel you. I'm at over 60 and only have one from my very first kill. The drops are abysmal
Strangely, I didn't get a spark for the first tormented boss kill.
It'll be there
It doesn’t drop, it just shows up in your materials
I dont agree with any of the drop rates for mythics. Legit solod almost 50 tormented bossed (minus andariel) and not a single mythic dropped. “1 in 10” bosses is def the streamer boosted drop.
*updated* have now spent 300+ blood for zir, ~200 living steel, 60+ duriel, another ~200 distilled fear. Both tormented AND normal. And ZERO mythics. ZERO!! Whatever these “drop rates” are, they are def not correct. Favorited streamers def have the higher advantage probabilities than average.
Why do we forced to farm bosses with groups ? yes, everyone can farm solo but its a waste of mats, so eventually you need to farm with groups
waiting for others to be ready, leechers, guys who run out of mats after 1 run, that`s totally crap,
they have to redesign dungeon system that not sucks
I’ve said, farming boss mats is such a boring gameplay loop…Just let us spam boss fight like D2 and lower the drop rates
1 in 13 kills haha, did 80 to get a starless lol, rng been cruel to me this season :)
140 runs now and no tyrials lol
Rolfson Cliffs
Distilled Fear needs more sources or make it cost less than 27 to summon his ass. 3 per tier 100 is shid doodoo caca. 9 nightmare dungeons for 1 summon is frustrating. I think I'll just farm gold and buy them.
I wish the hoards would drop boss materials not just stones
Farming Guide: Be a Streamer and get Everything Handed to you, Builds/Exploits/items/ and gold from your community. 👍🏼
I literally just sell items and buy mats. That’s the most efficient way to get boss materials. I literally bought and spawned 30 bosses last night from playing and selling items. As a solo player - maybe 4 hours of playtime
Could've had 120 bosses for the same amount of mats in a group
crazy my trade chat is always full of people who dont wanna do anything. meanwhile my homie in discord chat trade channel is always doing rota's. not sure why we all dont see the same trade chat
With the helltide hearts being so scarse if you don't want to tryhard with 3-4 parties doing rotas at bloodmaiden exquisite blood is absolute dogwater to farm right now they absolutely ruined helltide and with it any chances of reliably farming Zir items with that nerf. To my surprise they buffed the already OP hellborne strat in TH but haven't even mentioned the problem they've caused in a system they had finally fixed after 4 seasons...
I feel like they should either/or 1) revert the nerfs so it's just back to normal and everyone can hail mary spam the crap out of blood maiden without worries, 2) scale blood gain with the number of hearts you've put in so people don't get stingy and more than that, if you need to plug 3 of your own just to get the run going you're not actively scamming yourself, 3) make Zir much less expensive, he's currently still priced at 9 while the difficulty makes him a 5 at most but maybe even cheaper, 4) give us an alternative mainline for exquisite blood farming so we singleplayers aren't forced to sit out 3 helltides for a single uber zir with the damn staring contests going on and also considering the fact you gotta farm hearts all the time as well.
I think all this seasonal character building/farming, then sending our characters to the eternal realm should not be a focus of retirement for them.
What I mean is. ONCE our characters, those we don't delete seasonally are sent to the eternal realm, there needs to be a God tier challenge awaiting them ONLY FOUND IN ETERNAL REALM. Something so stupid Uber hard, it is going to test our greatest seasonal builds. Something with playability and benchmark, making eternal realm mean something aside from seasons. As it stands now, our characters are basically being put out to pasture and I have no problem deleting them.....That is a problem. It's a problem I am not torn between this or that because it doesn't exist for eternal...Why even have it.
I would say materials are waaaay off balance. It is very easy to get iron, but others are very-very bad.
Worst are the blood and fear... And on top of that up until today patch you only got 1 from ice beast as tormented...
Just get a group of four, all with the same summoning materials …hahahahaaa
Takes 5 minutes on discord.
Someone got scammed hue hue hue hue
I wish there was a more efficient way to farm boss materials
O'Keefe Hills
I never got spark from first tormented Boss.
43 t-zir kills and not 1 mythic for me, barb in group got 9
This has been my experience since the game came out. I've only ever gotten 1 uber unique and that was season 2, even though I've gotten a character to 100 every season. I've had friends get 10 of them in a single farming session but I never get 1
7x more likely to get mythic in Duriel/andariel
@@ericpeters5116To bring a character on Level 100 doesnt mean you farmed a lot boss Rotations?
@@moti6151 I wouldn't say a lot, but 50-100 duriel kills plus all the Grigoire and varshawn kills needed for the materials and the equivalent in zir and beast in ice kills, so you'd think I'd get at least 1 in a season
This game would be so much cooler with D2's loot.
I think most people just dont have the time to play like streamers do....4 hours a day is what most people get and after a week the streamers have played 84 hours and a normal player has played 28 max....and the normal player cant get these fast groups cause they simply arent online enough.
How to farm Rogue amulets?
Amus are most difficult to get. Best chance besides trading is doing helltide amu chests or obol grinding
3 blood from world boss,
takes 27 blood for 1 Torment run,
so you just have to farm the world boss 9 times for 1 Torment boss run.
..........................................
Seems legit, world boss loot OP Confirmed
I have tried to use CM so hard, especially because you push it. Its trash. Its wonkey, and really has no user base. D.T is so much better. Your bots cleaning up the messages saying CM sucks is pretty comical though.
The fuck you even talking about
Hey, we're trying our best and always making improvements, let me know what the main pain points are so we can work on it.
I’ve probably killed 20-30 tormented bosses in groups and still no mythic. Horrible luck.