10 awkward ways F1 drivers split with Ferrari

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  • F1 drivers struggle to resist the attraction of Ferrari. But for most of them, things never quite work out the way they'd hoped. In this video we've picked out 10 memorable Ferrari departures - not only looking for the most explosive or controversial splits, but ones that were curious or just strange as well. There were plenty to choose from, so let us know which ones we missed!
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  • @ahogg5960
    @ahogg5960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2345

    The old saying still stands, "Stand outside the Ferrari garage and you wonder why they don't win everything. Stand inside and you wonder how they win anything"

    • @xenonentity713
      @xenonentity713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Rightly said, those are some deep words boi.....

    • @giuseppemaggio5894
      @giuseppemaggio5894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Biggest bullcrap I've ever heard. Ferrari often had some of the best engineer, mechanics, drivers and more team members. They are the most winning team in F1 for a reason and the fact that an Italian team dominates the history of a UK-centered sport makes it even more epic!

    • @idiachuk
      @idiachuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      @@giuseppemaggio5894 they have most wins because they are old. The same reason why white americans are more wealthy than black americans - they just started earning earlier. And ferrari is less charismatic team for me - what I see from them is ineffective management, poor drivers treatment, loads of political bullshit, low team morale, and besides that they have a special money bonus for being old. Pathetic.

    • @xenonentity713
      @xenonentity713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      @@giuseppemaggio5894 I totally understand your feelings mate, I am a Ferrari fan too, it certainly has a rich history in the sport and the talent to win as well but it's ambitions are killed by it's inter-team politics. If a team can't win titles with drivers like Alonso and Vettel, the most exceptional talents of modern F1 era, I feel like there are some problems within the team as well.......

    • @godfather95mbs33
      @godfather95mbs33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@idiachuk lol keep crying, mclaren and williams will never, ever get close to Ferrari greatness

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1795

    "I know! I'll move to Ferrari, win the world championship and become a legend" - Many former F1 drivers.

    • @KingofWolves3277
      @KingofWolves3277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      And this is why Hamilton will not do this despite speculation sometimes that he will

    • @praneel6828
      @praneel6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      Kimi: "Bwoah. See? easy"

    • @JamesRodriguez10783
      @JamesRodriguez10783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Kimi : The championship, is it on or not ?

    • @isuckatthisgame
      @isuckatthisgame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@KingofWolves3277 yep, hamilton avoids tough situations for all costs

    • @arjunnair8037
      @arjunnair8037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@JamesRodriguez10783 Yes Kimi you will have the championship but no you will not have the drink sorry

  • @TheStol
    @TheStol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1008

    RB: we treat our 2nd drivers like garbage
    Ferrari: have you seen our star drivers?

    • @The_Curious_Cat
      @The_Curious_Cat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      More like: Ferrari - "We do that too. Plus we dump our star driver when we don't need him anymore".

    • @tobznoobs
      @tobznoobs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      heh 2nd drivers? look at what we did to our 5 time world champion.

    • @hawk117
      @hawk117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      and 4 time world champion too

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even our car last year

    • @aslamnurfikri7640
      @aslamnurfikri7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The fact that this video has Kimi, driver who replaced Kimi, and driver who replaced driver who replaced Kimi is baffling

  • @isnitjustkit
    @isnitjustkit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1254

    The fact this video can even exist says a lot about Ferrari

    • @SINSH4W
      @SINSH4W 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Well in their defense they are the oldest and most successful team in f1 so it's a given theyd have the material for this kind of video. But they have an issue within their operation and stuff. They care too much about their image and tradition which hinders them. If they lower the brands "ego" they might just be back because the infrastructure is there, all it's needed is to get with the times. I hope they change it up for Charles' sake. It'd be a shame if Charles became the best driver never to win the championship.

    • @brakinglate8828
      @brakinglate8828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      How about we talk about issues of other teams like Williams, Renault and especially Mclaren. They arent clean like Ferrari

    • @isnitjustkit
      @isnitjustkit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@brakinglate8828 The video's about Ferrari so i'm not sure why you're shifting to other teams

    • @brakinglate8828
      @brakinglate8828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@isnitjustkit just sayin that before you judge ferrari other teams arent any better.

    • @toothlessrage282
      @toothlessrage282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@isnitjustkit Well, each team have their own set of awkward terminations.

  • @menandroplan1554
    @menandroplan1554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +958

    The way they treated Kimi, the last person to win a WDC for them, and even more so how they treated Vettel and just threw him to the side, are perfect examples of why Ferrari deserves their 2020 performance

    • @brakinglate8828
      @brakinglate8828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      The reason why Kimi is still driving in F1 is because of them. They picked him to race for alfa romeo instead of a rookie F2 driver

    • @joelapilainen
      @joelapilainen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      @@brakinglate8828 Ferrari control Giovinazzi's seat only. It's Sauber who made the decision to sign Räikkönen

    • @Euclides287
      @Euclides287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@brakinglate8828 I agree. *Callum Ilott* should be in the seat.

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@brakinglate8828 The reason why Kimi is still driving in F1 is because he wants to and he partly owns the Alfa Romeo F1 team :/

    • @fintonmainz7845
      @fintonmainz7845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not sacking vettel 2 years ago was a big mistake for ferrari.

  • @yankees512417
    @yankees512417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Ferrari: "seb please don't joke about how bad we are."
    Seb:"what are you going to do? Fire me?"

  • @MulettoMotorsports
    @MulettoMotorsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    Kinda makes you understand why Vettel wrote on his helmet to Leclerc "not to waste" his talent.

    • @Blue-yp5mz
      @Blue-yp5mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Charles shouldn't listen to a fraud that cost Ferrari title in 2017 and 2018.. that Germans fraud always crack under pressure

    • @haekaldimas8023
      @haekaldimas8023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +264

      @@Blue-yp5mz rent free pal

    • @zepeisenga9494
      @zepeisenga9494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@Blue-yp5mz u forgot 2010?

    • @ladyskywalker2783
      @ladyskywalker2783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      @@Blue-yp5mz lmao ferrari cost ferrari a title not seb wtf

    • @MulettoMotorsports
      @MulettoMotorsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      @@Blue-yp5mz With that line of thought Alonso is also a fraud? I mean he did cost The Great Ferrari titles of 2010 and 2012.
      Come on man.

  • @kalpesh_p
    @kalpesh_p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +688

    This makes the achievement of Schumacher, Todt and Brawn stand out even more. Winning multiple championships at Ferrari is the toughest task in F1

    • @ozamatazbuckshank7467
      @ozamatazbuckshank7467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Not really. FIA always help them

    • @moon_louis
      @moon_louis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Brawn GP would like to have a word

    • @Josh-ft3ri
      @Josh-ft3ri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      @@ozamatazbuckshank7467 yeah they really helped them by changing the rules in 2005 and ending their domination.

    • @Marc98338
      @Marc98338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They replaced many italians in those days. The place was completely different in the shumi era.

    • @iceman1125
      @iceman1125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly

  • @markomm9312
    @markomm9312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    Fun fact: After splitting with Ferrari, all these driver combined have scored 38 wins

    • @giuseppemaggio5894
      @giuseppemaggio5894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Now make the calculation of how many wins combined they have won with Ferrari

    • @KyleMc16
      @KyleMc16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@giuseppemaggio5894 really the stat should be percentage of races won. Otherwise drivers who retired or barely raced after they left would obviously be skewed to looking like they did worse after a long stint with the team.

    • @markomm9312
      @markomm9312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Hot Rod not true, after leaving Ferrari, only 4 out of 10 drivers didn't win any races(at least for now because Vettel and Alonso are still racing)

    • @JonBobben
      @JonBobben 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How many has Lewis won after he left McLaren? Is there a point with your comment?

    • @kipchpineda7161
      @kipchpineda7161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jon Nerheim That is not a pretty good comparison,

  • @worldwar_history_narrator7451
    @worldwar_history_narrator7451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Schumacher actually didn't want his close friend Massa fired. He wasn't afraid of Raikonnen.

    • @brodsta01land12
      @brodsta01land12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think Schumacher was afraid of Raikkonen, although Kimi was frighteningly fast in this stage of his career. Schumacher was always a shrewd operator, and he knew that he always had the backing of the dream team with Todt and Brawn. With those figures no longer at Ferrari, Michael would’ve been well aware of the fate that befell great drivers before him like Prost, Mansell or Lauda. Kimi may not have beaten Michael to a title in an equal fight, but this is Ferrari; the fight is never equal.
      But up against anyone, Schumacher at Ferrari was a force to be reckoned with.

  • @TheSharpoint1
    @TheSharpoint1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    We nearly had kimi raikkonen vs michael schumacher in the same car?
    That would've definitely been an interesting teammate battle in an alternate universe

    • @caioangelo_5328
      @caioangelo_5328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Kimi Raikkonen vs Michael Schumacher vs Fernando Alonso vs Lewis Hamilton

    • @theempires5
      @theempires5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      From what I've read is that Phillip Morris was willing to finance that 'Schumi, Kimi' dream team by devoting their entire motorsport budget to Maranello.

    • @gigsawsoljier1408
      @gigsawsoljier1408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@caioangelo_5328 Schumi would of won that for sure. lucky for kimi that he did retire tbh. so basicly massa signed for 2006 with the fact he new he was taking a big risk with no seat their for 2007

    • @muntahanaushin389
      @muntahanaushin389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And a title fight between Hamilton and Schumacher too probably?

    • @ashaffold
      @ashaffold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Gigsaw Soljier what? Kimi was running circles around Schumi in 2003 and 2005. The only thing that Schumi had in 2007 that Kimi didn’t - his political clout at Ferrari.

  • @MrSniperfox29
    @MrSniperfox29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ferrari also managed to ruin every pitstop Vettel made for the last five races, and at one point seem to forget he was even driving when they left him on softs for 75% of a race.

  • @alfonsoaparicio2833
    @alfonsoaparicio2833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    We need an update in 3/4 years with charles and carlos added to the list

    • @wutzitrone4522
      @wutzitrone4522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Hot Rod oh lord... These poor men.

    • @NERGYStudios
      @NERGYStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I seriously hope they deliver a much better car for 2022, both of them are absolute top notch talent

    • @imibuks-replit
      @imibuks-replit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Robert, and illot in a few more years

    • @keemaxcz
      @keemaxcz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spoiler alert: They did the same to Carlos as they did to Sebastian 💀

    • @alfonsoaparicio2833
      @alfonsoaparicio2833 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@keemaxcz lol

  • @timyo6288
    @timyo6288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    How many years until Leclerc fits on this list? His contract is almost long enough to guarantee he will be on here eventually.

    • @Garf2O
      @Garf2O 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Probably when he gets a bit older and they find a promising young talent in whoever the hell and then the antics will follow shortly after

  • @pichael2405
    @pichael2405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    We can only pray for Charles

    • @heretustay
      @heretustay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      and Carlos 🙏😓

    • @TheSt1092
      @TheSt1092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah really hope such a big talent isn't destroyed by politics. Ditto for Sainz too.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I won't, the guy should, leave if he knows what's good for him but he won't. He's been groomed. Ferrari is toxic as blood poisoning.

    • @maximus2536
      @maximus2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@TheSt1092 seb warned him with his final letter to him, I hope his loyalty doesn't break his awesome career. I am a Ferrari fan but I hate this team right now, it is so far from the Ferrari of old

    • @seanonraet8327
      @seanonraet8327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@TheSt1092 sainz is going to get screwed once mick Schumacher is up to speed

  • @robertharrington703
    @robertharrington703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    There's much more to Kimi in 2009 than this video tells imo
    The faces on the Ferrari pitboard at the Belgian GP when Kimi won are of pure shock that the guy they were dumping had won

    • @elta6241
      @elta6241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once they focused on Raikkonen after Massa’s accident he got results in that car that shouldn’t have been possible. I think he would have been champion in 2010.

  • @glowtail3744
    @glowtail3744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Ferrai
    The destroyers of championship winning drivers

    • @MarioRossi-nd3vw
      @MarioRossi-nd3vw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Blatant nonsense considering they have more constructors and drivers championship respectively. Wash your mouth.

    • @ar-2284
      @ar-2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@MarioRossi-nd3vw that was in the past when they had a good management, now the team is dogshit in that regard

    • @antonygibson_
      @antonygibson_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@MarioRossi-nd3vw glow tail literally is just describing the entire contents of the video mate

    • @EMANUEL-vt8ok
      @EMANUEL-vt8ok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Expect Vettel who fucked up 2017 and 2018 season.

    • @ar-2284
      @ar-2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@EMANUEL-vt8ok 2018 sure, but 2017 is all on ferrari

  • @Hamsteren91
    @Hamsteren91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    I love how vettel, just cracked one joke after another about how terrible his car was, ferrari needs to be takin down a notch. Thats one person they cant pay to keep quiet, unlike the FIA.

    • @fintonmainz7845
      @fintonmainz7845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The fact is: on multiple occasions Vettel was slower than his teammate.
      His opinion counts for nought.
      It will be a miracle if he finishes this season.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@fintonmainz7845 Maybe tell Ferrari to make a car that actually suits their driver then? Vettel would still have beaten Leclerc in 19 if not for all the reliability failures and being robbed in Canada. Your red clowns make an oversteery car with a lack of rear downforce and then blame Vettel for all their engineering shortcomings. Everyone knows Seb needs a certain kind of car to succeed but if given that he's unstoppable. He had that in 17 and almost beat Merc with a much slower car. In 18, his car was ALMOST as quick as Merc's but it didn't suit him. Then Leclerc comes in and Ferrari build a car that suits his preferences, not a surprise that he beat Vettel. Although in 20 Seb had just given up on the joke that was Ferrari and just wanted to move on.

    • @kenchen704
      @kenchen704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@areebsiddiqui758 people like you just have no idea on how F1 works. Team build the fastest car, not the car that suits the fastest driver. The greats like Hamilton, Schumacher, Prost, Villeneuve, Verstappen, and Leclerc--you don’t see them ever tunnel focused on the car not suiting them--they get their head down and just drive the car to it’s maximum. People who chase car setups instead of focusing on their skill like Gasly, Albon, Kvyat, and Vettel, are all dropped to the back now. Now, butthurt Vettel fan, what do you have to say about your petty used to be 4 time world champion? Only as good as his last race, and the last race he had he finished P15

    • @dominic.m.i.
      @dominic.m.i. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@kenchen704 bruh. Sir Hamiltons car is set-up around him. The car must be predictable too. While being fast. That's why the SF1000 is mocked as a tractor. The SF21 is slower but no one is making the sBinnala jokes anymore. Because it's under control.

    • @fruitloops781
      @fruitloops781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kenchen704 hate to say it. But they all had cars that suited him. Except Prost. Prost complained, alot. And got fired for doing so.

  • @Hello_there_obi
    @Hello_there_obi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Lauda admitted it was mistake because he could've won more championships but he also said that at the time, it was absolutely the right thing to do. Quite nicely explained to be honest.

  • @WezMan444
    @WezMan444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I think a list of drivers that have a good relationship with Ferrari would be much shorter

    • @german_doggy7314
      @german_doggy7314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would lauda count as good?
      And gilles too

    • @german_doggy7314
      @german_doggy7314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Hot Rod most drivers had an good relationship with ferrari at the start but deteriorated over the stint. So idk if that would last

    • @phoenixav9550
      @phoenixav9550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta make it atleast 10 mins and get the ad revenue man. Hence a video with such a list is not possible

    • @ant.tol.7528
      @ant.tol.7528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Berger Alboreto Alesi Massa Irvine Lauda(was buried with the ferrari suit) phill hill Surtees Schekter Andretti tambay Arnoux Capelli Ickx Regazzoni Reutemann
      Toxic anti ferrari attitude not surprised

    • @dragonkrieg4444
      @dragonkrieg4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that list doesn't even include Schumi or Lauda, good luck finding anyone of note
      well, Kimi Raikkonen i guess but it's not like he gives a shit about working relationships beyond getting paid on time anyway

  • @AudreyH48
    @AudreyH48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I totally agree with poor Seb being the most awkward! Seeing Seb and how much more relaxed and loose he likes to be, Ferrari could of learned a thing or two about how to manage people. I think if the culture had been better for Seb, he would have had 2 titles with them.

    • @Refusedlove
      @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and look at Seb now, achieving absolutely nothing

    • @raisinnotnice
      @raisinnotnice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Refusedlove Could say the same for Ferrari as well tbh. Though being a Ferrari fan, I hope the scuderia can get back on their feet and score wins again.

  • @t3h51d3w1nd3r
    @t3h51d3w1nd3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    its amazing how disfunctional teams are behind the scenes, Williams were equally messed up with firing drivers that were world champions and driving really talented designers away, newey, brawn, willis and many more, makes you wonder how they won at all

    • @dragonkrieg4444
      @dragonkrieg4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's why i'm a Mercedes fan, they seem to be the one team that actually has their shit together when it comes to organization and being a working environment you'd want to be in, and the results paid off to the tune of 8 straight Constructors titles

  • @BMW_Supremacy
    @BMW_Supremacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    So it's basically like 70% of them

    • @gaurav1265
      @gaurav1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea

    • @carlosguerra3560
      @carlosguerra3560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      70? lmao i think its more around the 85% mark if you really look at proper potential WDC winning drivers

    • @gaurav1265
      @gaurav1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlosguerra3560 well don't wanna go into maths but around that mark was what I meant

  • @lukaeddie3377
    @lukaeddie3377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's funny now in hindsight reading about Todt managment being labeled as a problem by Alesi. Basically the only boss that made Ferrari look like a well oiled machine similar to Mercedes in the turbo era.

  • @philippebeinaerts
    @philippebeinaerts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Don’t forget Ivan Capelli: a very promising driver whose career was absolutely destroyed by Ferrari’s atmosphere and its catastrophically beautiful 1992 car

  • @7inrain
    @7inrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maybe I can lift the mystery about René Arnoux's falling out with Ferrari and his complaints about his car's lack of performance compared with teammate Michele Alboreto.
    Gerhard Berger had an interesting story to tell about his year 1987 at Ferrari with that exact teammate Alboreto. During the year he always lost straight line speed compared to Alboreto, sometimes 10 - 15 kph. John Barnard who was the constructor of the car revealed a hair-raising story how he was being approached by Count Zanon, a big supporter of Alboreto. Allegedly Zanon offered Barnard money for intentionally making Berger's car slower. Of course Barnard refused but an engineer for the motor mapping obviously hadn't resisted the offer. He was fired afterwards and suddenly Berger's car had as much power as Alboreto's.
    The whole episode is described in Berger's book "Grenzbereich" and it wouldn't be a stretch of imagination that something like this happened to Arnoux as well.

  • @metaltyre4894
    @metaltyre4894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Well in 2009 kimi got involved in FERRARI POLITICS
    Ferrari needed money due to the financial crisis of 2008
    Santander a Spanish bank was ready to give some bank money but they had their terms 'we need Fernando in team' for advertising themselves with a Spanish driver
    The deal was signed everything was done

    • @PunKouro
      @PunKouro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks god we saw both of them in the same car and we discovered who fighted for the championship with a "tractor" meanwhile the other one couldn't pass the Q1

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They also kept Massa to advertise in South America, and Kimi lost out because they didn't need the Finnish market

    • @metaltyre4894
      @metaltyre4894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrSniperfox29 exactly

    • @mudundisivaramaraju4640
      @mudundisivaramaraju4640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PunKouro championship? Lol

    • @sabrinanova949
      @sabrinanova949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@paulru7894
      Fernando way faster than Kimi.

  • @thebarcaboardroom406
    @thebarcaboardroom406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Everyone goes to ferrari tryna be the next shumacher and ends up leaving dissapointed

    • @mo215300
      @mo215300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who knows this time ferrari have learnt their lesson and will prevent this from happening I have a sneaky feeling that their 2022 car would be extremely good and also I noticed their strategies and pit crew show improvement . I know Binotto is bad but still I have a feeling the rest of team will deliver next year plus selection of Carlos was a great choice

    • @ar-2284
      @ar-2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mo215300 we said the same when Vettel was joining the team and we know how toxic the relationship became with the team. When it comes to the 2022 car being good it's very unlikely since the big 3 teams will be struggling with the budget cap. I agree that Carlos is a decent replacement but I don't think him or Charles are gonna get anywhere with Ferrari.

    • @mo215300
      @mo215300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ar-2284 let’s see your thinking is based on all these years of history . It really depends on whether Ferrari have finally leant their lesson or not

    • @ar-2284
      @ar-2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mo215300 they didn't change in 30+ years because of their ego, why would they change now. They will probably end up making another Vettel esq relationship with Charles and then drop him in the coming years.

    • @MulettoMotorsports
      @MulettoMotorsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The thing is that paired up with Schumacher's INCREDIBLE talent he had good management to back him
      Todt and Brawn were right behind him.

  • @ThePuliUkko
    @ThePuliUkko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Fun fact. Kimi earn more than any other F1 driver in 2010. When he didn't even drive at all.. :D

    • @timyo6288
      @timyo6288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don’t make things up people here new enough to believe you.

    • @madhusagi7644
      @madhusagi7644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timyo6288 let them learn eventually

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong, both Alonso and Hamilton earned more.

  • @dhruvgoyal2778
    @dhruvgoyal2778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Vettel just attracted all the news towards him by announcing his move to Aston and that was a fitting reply to Ferrari for giving him a miserable season. What a legend.

    • @Refusedlove
      @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and look at his lovely p14s in Aston now :)

    • @lorenzil1450
      @lorenzil1450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Refusedlove this aged well

    • @Refusedlove
      @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorenzil1450 do you think so? let's see the rest of the year

    • @lorenzil1450
      @lorenzil1450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Refusedlove you are the one who made a call after 4 races

    • @Refusedlove
      @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorenzil1450 "loo at his p14 NOW" is making a call? Are you for real or just wanted to troll someone these days?

  • @quackingpanda8466
    @quackingpanda8466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Kimi and Schumacher would have been such an insane partnership. Both with very similar driving styles

    • @quackingpanda8466
      @quackingpanda8466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Stealth Leopard Kimi and Seb worked well together and they were both experienced enough to set up the car as they like it but their driving styles are almost completely different

  • @lekobiashvili945
    @lekobiashvili945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jean Alesi: Am I unemployed?
    Ferrari: We are checking...

  • @sovietdoggo3831
    @sovietdoggo3831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I already know that Prost is gonna be on here

    • @DavidGarcia-oi5nt
      @DavidGarcia-oi5nt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh wow what a brave guess there

    • @sovietdoggo3831
      @sovietdoggo3831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DavidGarcia-oi5nt ikr

    • @MulettoMotorsports
      @MulettoMotorsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Admittedly that was a bit of a back and forth. Even if your engine is shite I don't think it does the team any good to say it to the press.

    • @Probotector_AUT
      @Probotector_AUT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In other news, water is wet.

    • @sovietdoggo3831
      @sovietdoggo3831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Probotector_AUT wait what? It is?

  • @stopklock9591
    @stopklock9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Ferrari
    we will try and make you world champ but fail in the process

    • @Refusedlove
      @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If Ferrari fails in winning, imagine what you could say for everybody else

  • @AirsoftReviewArgentina
    @AirsoftReviewArgentina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1956, Juan Manuel Fangio. "We let Fangio go because we can't afford him". (Enzo Ferrari) That started it all...

  • @blueflags599
    @blueflags599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The fact that some of f1s goats never one a title shows how good Michel was and just how hard it’s to impress Ferrari

    • @lohithreddy6629
      @lohithreddy6629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bruh he was their first driver for a long time just like ham now

    • @ethandong1313
      @ethandong1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he basically brought his Benetton championship over to make it work

    • @sharvapotdar3257
      @sharvapotdar3257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It also shows how shit Ferrari is at driver treatment. Sebastian was a 4 time world champ before joining Ferrari.

    • @bojack99
      @bojack99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's be honest if it wasn't for Micheal.. Ferrari would still have no titles

    • @MrSilverfish12
      @MrSilverfish12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely true. Micheal bought Ross Brawn and John Bernard and a whole heap of Bennetton guys over. Full credit though to John Todt, he was the one who protected them!

  • @DiveshRSA
    @DiveshRSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality content as usual. Keep up the great work

  • @Lina-rn8bp
    @Lina-rn8bp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Omg I just clicked your channel and it's freshly uploaded

  • @natjes6017
    @natjes6017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best vid in a long while, thank you 👍

  • @TheChosenFailure
    @TheChosenFailure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    9:57 Vettel looks 60 here, you can really see the toll Ferrari has taken on him.

  • @colindowd9756
    @colindowd9756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @1:23 Kimi looking like a badass Superhero! Love that guy

  • @einbaerchen2995
    @einbaerchen2995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They really know how to mess things up... I never really realised this, but the people who risked and achieved most for them always got an awkward send-off.

  • @f1pro299
    @f1pro299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Michael Schumacher is legendary 🙏🏼

  • @reisanibal1
    @reisanibal1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Next on the list: Charles Leclerc in a couple of years.

    • @megadragon886
      @megadragon886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, just wait to 2022 and 2023

  • @bfapple
    @bfapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’d love versions of this video for McLaren, Williams and RB.

    • @yaralaterveer
      @yaralaterveer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RB would be a complete video about destroyed careers😂

    • @aslamnurfikri7640
      @aslamnurfikri7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Bull would be:
      -David Coulthard, crashed on his last race
      -Mark Webber, Multi 21 fiasco
      -Daniil Kvyat, replaced mid-season after crashes
      -Pierre Gasly and Alex Albon, replaced for poor performance

    • @bfapple
      @bfapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aslamnurfikri7640 Not forgetting Christian Klien.

  • @alexwilliams5819
    @alexwilliams5819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To quote Aidan Millward: “Ferrari is a very Machiavellian organisation. When you’ve outlived your usefulness your gone”

  • @due_2477
    @due_2477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always, Michele Alboreto got completely forgotten about. Ferrari made him lost the 1985 championship and then basically made him n.2 driver behind Berger. Their 1988 split was pure tension

    • @gorkab8461
      @gorkab8461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Case in point, he was 3rd near the end of the Belgian GP at Spa when the engine failed. Instead of coming into the pits, he went round in a plum of blue smoke one more time (long lap, 7km), because "when the engine fails you like that, it's better to do one extra lap so you can feel how it disintegrates completely". That didn't go down well in the garage, but he was out for the following season anyway.

    • @due_2477
      @due_2477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gorkab8461 wow where did you read or hear it? And what year, 1985?

    • @gorkab8461
      @gorkab8461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@due_2477 I watched it back in the day and it was late summer 1988, when Mansell was already announced for '89 and Michele knew he was out

  • @theoriginalrabbithole
    @theoriginalrabbithole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🏁Question of the Year!🏁 How long before Charles Leclerc becomes disillusioned with Ferrari and wants out? It's a fair question given that Mattia Binotto has become "Maurizio Arrivabene 2.0" to Leclerc's role as "Seb Vettel 2.0" but without all Seb's mistakes, with one strategy blunder after another and the reality of no end in sight, once again becoming business as usual with the Scuderia. 😔

    • @swapnilnayak2449
      @swapnilnayak2449 ปีที่แล้ว

      You sure there are no mistakes from Charles?
      Imola and France!!

  • @ykv_-gy7ne
    @ykv_-gy7ne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooooh Imagine Fernando getting a seat at Merc or RB 😱😱

  • @rhysmorris1199
    @rhysmorris1199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like Ferrari, they are iconic in all racing. But damn they are toxic as hell.
    Poor Vettel's 2020 of distrust and awkwardness was plain and painful to watch. Just hope same does not come for Charles and Carlos.

  • @mikafinn1200
    @mikafinn1200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a Ferrari fan since the 90s until the way they let Kimi go...since then, they have been a mess.

  • @dughuff8825
    @dughuff8825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting video.. you gonna do one on some of the other teams now as well? Given Ferraris long tenure in the sport they're bound to have a fair number, but I can think of several teams who treated their drivers just as badly...

    • @theempires5
      @theempires5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. Mclaren (Lauda 1985,Hakkinen 2001) Williams (Mansell 1992,Prost 1993,Hill 1996)

    • @Refusedlove
      @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theempires5 lol, what about Alonso in mclaren?

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ferrari is the reflection of Italy itself, and if it continues, it will only be a memory in history. It's really difficult to deal with italians to not say something worst.

  • @stuartcarden1371
    @stuartcarden1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As much as I love Ferrari, I struggle to defend the out of control politics and general team ethos. The cold hard truth is they end up sabotaging themselves far more than their attitude helps them. They're a very successful team that could, should and would be the ultimate F1 team if only they all decided to push in the same direction.

    • @mufarrijlukman21
      @mufarrijlukman21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah they run things very old fashionly with hierarchies and what not, im glad the drivers are now treated less roughly and sainz being the bigger man and not stirring up in the garage

  • @joonaaskr
    @joonaaskr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll miss Seb in red, but it's best for him to go to a team that supports him and doesn't put so much pressure on him. But hey, it was good until 2019, right?

  • @arthurmorgan9108
    @arthurmorgan9108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Losing Schumacher in 2006 was the greatest mistake.

  • @udayparthiv6778
    @udayparthiv6778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you also do a video on Ferrari's top team members? The ones that left and achieved success. James Alison, Aldo Costa?

  • @Aloyz3n
    @Aloyz3n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ferrari is the phisical manifestation of thr phrase "history repeats itself", It's like they're stuck in a loop and enjoy it there

  • @arunkumarnarasimhan3427
    @arunkumarnarasimhan3427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to be clear... MSC was let go to get RAI onboard, who was then let go for ALO, who made way for VET.. who was also let go unceremoniously!

  • @ramaanomuravha8575
    @ramaanomuravha8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is high quality journalism

  • @doinggreat9197
    @doinggreat9197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Schumi" always liked the submissive team- mate. Raikonnen would not have been one.

    • @doinggreat9197
      @doinggreat9197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Stealth Leopard And Schumacher was submissive to Nico Rosberg.

  • @matthiascerebri3315
    @matthiascerebri3315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think even the second departure of Räikönnen in 2018 was akward: After he had even challenged Vettel with one pole and one win as well as 9 consecutive podiums he had to go because Leclerc had signed an early contract and threatened to file a lawsuit. Although was glad to come back to Sauber, it could have been All so much more fair and square

  • @REI02021809
    @REI02021809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another was Irvine. Pushed out to make way for barrichello

  • @gbsoffiati
    @gbsoffiati 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    funny that another smaller channel talked about this 1 day ago, wondering how this happened

  • @mondodimotori
    @mondodimotori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Even if Gilles Villeneuve didn't leave Ferrari, the backgrounds of his fatal crash in Zoelder could have led him to leave the team if he didn't passed on that terrible day.
    Also the short lived time at Ferrari of Ivan Capelli could make this list. Or the mentioned in the video Michele Alboreto.

    • @theempires5
      @theempires5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His wife, Jo Anne said that Gilles would probably leave Ferrari at the end of 1982,given how he was treated there. Ferrari team principal at that time, Marco Picconini is the best man at Pironi's wedding, an event that Gilles wasn't even invited.That closeness means that there will be favourable decision in the direction of Didier. Once the trust is gone, then it's no good to continue at Maranello.

    • @fintonmainz7845
      @fintonmainz7845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The commadore still held sway at Ferrari back then. He loved Gil (as he called him).

    • @dragonkrieg4444
      @dragonkrieg4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theempires5 but Enzo himself loved Gilles. that is not something that could be said for very many people, let alone "expendable" drivers.

  • @jannik-x
    @jannik-x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most teams have a number 1 and a number 2 driver... Ferrari only has a number 3 and a number 4 driver.

  • @rikudousennin4408
    @rikudousennin4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:56 brilliant photo there

  • @dtaylor9673
    @dtaylor9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All those years and drivers and Ferrari prove they have learned nothing about being a 'team' and taking good care of key staff

  • @D5Pasadena
    @D5Pasadena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glenn Freeman is the best at these videos. His delivery is excellent.

  • @aaronanish7400
    @aaronanish7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    drivers come to ferrari because of the teams legacy and fancy buildings and stuff

    • @giuseppemaggio5894
      @giuseppemaggio5894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, they come to Ferrari because there is no team that is as glorious, famous and loved

    • @Formula1Madx
      @Formula1Madx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@giuseppemaggio5894 and leave with their hopes, dreams & careers in tatters.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Awkward" is one of the top adjectives I would use to describe Ferrari in F1 in general, now that you mention it...

  • @NB-qr2rt
    @NB-qr2rt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do one about Williams and Red Bull next, but you probably won't because they're British based teams.

  • @TheMattmic
    @TheMattmic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are being very kind to the Scuderia over the Raikkonen split... Raikkonen being Ferraris latest champion and won in 2007 in nearly impossible and glorious terms after trailing Hamilton and Alonzo for most of the season was subjected to a smear where any photo of him partying would be met by Montezemolo openly questioning his commitment to racing... Raikkonen not only got his seat back in 2014 but he is probably the first and only driver who also got an apology for his treatment proceeding his exit... I think Montezomolos criticism has aged very poorly...

  • @XantheFIN
    @XantheFIN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Title could be put too "Italian way" as they refer things too in Ferrari. Only legend they have is good drivers they just didn't listen well enough during years.

  • @rodolphendessabeka8721
    @rodolphendessabeka8721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What Nigel Mansell said about being a no. 2 driver at Ferrari 30 years ago still stands. Case in point Sebastian Vettel in 2020.

  • @Limegreenedragon
    @Limegreenedragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now one for McClaren and Wiiliams while we're at it

  • @robertbirks5190
    @robertbirks5190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should include
    Every Ferrari driver ever

  • @joshmaynard1505
    @joshmaynard1505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why it it every team prost joined his team mate had issues with him or the team had issues with him 😂😂

  • @fquincke
    @fquincke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was expecting to see fangio's departure here

  • @marco3943
    @marco3943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow seb at #1 huh didn't expect that

  • @bizzlea887
    @bizzlea887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @THE RACE are you guys gonna be bringing us SuperGT this year?

    • @squilldx5055
      @squilldx5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s only on MotorsportTV for now unfortunately

    • @bizzlea887
      @bizzlea887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@squilldx5055 thanks

  • @TheQuikMix
    @TheQuikMix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd really like to know what it is about Ferrari that they've had such a love of drama in their management/team.

  • @ramaanomuravha8575
    @ramaanomuravha8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do article about team changing directors, designers

  • @danigonzalez4299
    @danigonzalez4299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Mansell not only "felt" the favour treatment of Prost by that happened. Mansell set pole in France. Prost asked to have his car for the next race, british gp. And Mansell came to the box and felt the car was different. Well they gave his car to Prost!!!!! So Mansell set up the car as higher as he could on qualy and runned to win in race time but he had gearbox issues and he had to retire. Then he decided he had enough of that sh*t.
    Also lets not forget when Prost landed at Ferrari Mansell really admired him (check his autobiography and the new one) and also Prost checked that there were some team crew from Williams (Mansell came from Williams) but those guys were signed before even Mansell arrived. So Prost thought this was a Mansell move to make the team his. While Mansell did not do that. So Prost made Ferrari sign many workers from McLaren to own the team. And oh boy if he did.

  • @Billiamiscool
    @Billiamiscool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No Luca Badoer? 10 years of faithful service as a test driver, was awarded with a drive of a shit car, then fired due to media pressure and replaced by Giancarlo Fisichella, who did no better

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just one hint about the pronounciation of Sebastian Vettels last name: speak Fettel. That is how we Germans pronounce it. More often than not the letter "v" is pronounced like a very harsh "f"

  • @RhoadsRafa
    @RhoadsRafa ปีที่แล้ว

    What is more impressive is after all the bad blood in his last year with Ferrari , Se made a whole song in Italian for the team and performed it after his last race over the radio. He still.managed to show passion for the screwderia

  • @shadowracer091
    @shadowracer091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rumors say that Ferrari fired Arnoux because they found out that He had a surgery in his right leg without informing the team about it, thus allowing Ferrari to sack him for breaking the contract on the terms of illness or health.

  • @asvpapi
    @asvpapi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Juan Manuel Fangio’s departure? No video of that could be found, huh?

  • @mich722
    @mich722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vettel brought it upon himself, crashed 4 times in a row in 2018 and threw the title away. 2019 was embarrassing and 2020 was a train wreck. Even at Aston Martin, in his first race he was crashing again in a situation which should not happen with an experienced driver.

    • @gontran8638
      @gontran8638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ferrari was shit in 2020 that's all. for other years responsibility is shared

  • @crystalracing4794
    @crystalracing4794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagining think Jean Todt was THE problem at Ferrari. Alesi was never the sharpest knife in the drawer.

  • @SplendidTruth
    @SplendidTruth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bring back v10 sparks a quesiton in my mind - if v10s were by some miracle to come back, would they be as reliable as current engines.

  • @tejassharma5404
    @tejassharma5404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:11 is that James Allison?

  • @boyzinpain6814
    @boyzinpain6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regardless which famous drivers drive for Ferrair, the name Ferrari always comes first, not the drivers. The drivers are replaceable but not the Ferrari name. If the drivers did not deliver good results, off they go. It's business, not charity. I think the only driver Ferrari really appreciated and treasured was Schumacher which he rightly deserved after winning 5 titles for Ferrari. I am not a Ferrari fan but I do hope that they finally can be competitive again this year and beyond

  • @gibospartan6185
    @gibospartan6185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I haven’t watched the video yet but I already know it’ll feature Prost, Vettel and Raikkonen.

  • @madkhaliqfarhan
    @madkhaliqfarhan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have never liked Ferrari since I was little and I'll never be a tifosi no matter how irresistible the team is! I was a fan of Sebastian Vettel when he was winning races with Red Bull but that totally changed when he joined Ferrari in 2015! Why are most F1 drivers so obsessed with the idea of joining Ferrari to improve their records? I want Ferrari's records to be broken by non-Ferrari drivers, like McLaren did at the 1993 Australian Grand Prix!

  • @johnmcnally8566
    @johnmcnally8566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is more to F1 than the last 30 years. Jean Behra's departure says more about Enzo who did not bother to send flowers.

  • @ramaanomuravha8575
    @ramaanomuravha8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do article about team changing bosses

  • @venukrithish007
    @venukrithish007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It surprises how good kimi can be and how shit he can be at times. It's baffling

  • @Refusedlove
    @Refusedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's lovely to see all these comments criticizing the most glorious and winning team in motorsport ever. You guys are hilarious