Grateful Dead - China Cat Sunflower/I Know You Rider (Winterland 10/17/74)
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- "Although a standout combination going back to later 1969, China/Rider developed a longer, more intricate, more ascendant jam during 1973, and it peaked in 1974. This rendition for the final run of the shows before the Dead's hiatus in 1974 shows the remarkable interplay between the five musicians, with some stunning camera work, all shot on 16mm negative film." - David Lemieux
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"Although a standout combination going back to later 1969, China/Rider developed a longer, more intricate, more ascendant jam during 1973, and it peaked in 1974. This rendition for the final run of the shows before the Dead's hiatus in 1974 shows the remarkable interplay between the five musicians, with some stunning camera work, all shot on 16mm negative film." - David Lemieux
So many definitive versions of songs from this run of shows!!!
Every jam became better with Mickey gone.
Hot damn I love this more than my wine and possibly even more than my Pearly Baker.
Dead...alwats
@@andrewstevens2719 and
My 5 year old came in as I was watching. “I like your cowboy music, dad”. Nice work kid.
That is fantastic!!!! Bless our children!!!
You did good, sir! :-)
Fatherhood: winning.
They were far better than Rogers and Autry tho Bob Wills and Tex Ritter were genuine players in their time the sons of the pioneers were very popular and have a following to this day
The kids had the best seat in the house. Twirling Early. 🙏
Right on big boss man!!!😎
Watching this to celebrate Phil Lesh. RIP, Phil
Amen. May he fly high forever my friend 🎉❤
sad man :(
I raise my glass. This is pure. This is clear. 1 week into a national shutdown and Im reminded the sun will shine in my backdoor someday. Amen.
All of us heads are together brother let's all put out the good energy at 4:20 everyday starting today 420
Amen!
The perfect antidote
@@mrcomenttoe2009 Amen bother
@@mrcomenttoe2009 haha Four Twenty haha
I never get tired of hearing this epic masterpiece. When the Grateful Dead were in sync they were untouchable.
"...epic masterpiece." Indeed it is. One for the ages!!
Me too.the jam is smokin.there all tearing it up
UNFUCKINGTOUCHABLE that is.
It's one of the greatest
100%
The way that Jerry and Bob switch between lead and rhythm on this is seamless.
Besides that transition... to Ryder, they got it down by 77 though ....🤣😎🤣
Undying gratitude to everybody who rolled tape or film back in the day
Absolutely,,✌️✌️
Dude🤙🏻🤙🏻 infinite love to them especially those that aren’t rocking on this plane of existence anymore❤️🕊 absolutely beautiful audio and footage here
Unsung heroes ⚡️💀🌹
True hero’s. The music never stopped.
Yes! Agreed. Jerry said the recordings were just artifacts of the moments in time, the experience. I’m glad we have them to remember and relive the experience.
Phil Lesh is one of the most underrated bass player of rock
Not so sure he was underrated. He was pretty much a well-know musician by the mid-70's. Agreed - he is great. Underrated? Nope
@@hotajax I love putting Phil's lsolated tracks on and jam
He is a god among mortals
Absolutely true
Fire on the mountains bass line might be my favorite bass line ever
What a fucking band, incredible. Best music ever.
San Rafael Marin county San Francisco California rastafari Jah jerrymylitis Jah sisters Jah everything everyone solidarity Tucson Arizona Sonoran desert 🏜️ Africa Ethiopia Addis Ababa Selassie I Jah creation 🏜️🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🥧💧🇲🇲🌙🐑🇬🇧🌟🇯🇵🌈♥️🔯🍄🍄🍄💦🇸🇯🇿🇦🇲🇱🐝🇺🇲🌹🌹🌹🇬🇫🇸🇪🇸🇪🍻🌵🪶🇯🇲🍓🌄🐕🇮🇱🍬❤️🌍🌍🌍🇪🇹🇪🇹🍄
Oh dude without a doubt the greatest of all music ever. It's a true way of life 🎉 God Bless the Grateful Dead ❤
This performance turns 50 today. Wish I could've been there to witness this.
Me too. My first show was 7/6/1990 Cardinal Stadium Louisville KY. I love watching shows fro oh hech I like watching shows from all years. Someone needs to invent a time machine. I would use it for grateful dead shows.
There never was and there will never be another band like them
I will forever be a dead head and there will never be a group like this ever again. Masters
The baby Dead Heads dancing on stage makes my heart happy!
Bobby's guitar tone is so good here. Love when he has that more hollow-body low-treble sound.
WORD GIFTS INC. definitely agree with that. It’s much less bright and more warm. Love this mix
@@NACH10tube looks to me like they discussed going into a different key and Bobby's trying to cue it. I'm sure getting Jerry and Phil to follow anyone else's cues was like herding cats.
Yes and unlike most dead shows they don’t have him mixed criminally low
@@V8trickshot I could never tell what he was playing at the Dead and Co show I went to... he moved up and down the fretboard, but all I could hear was John, which was frustrating.
succulentstir I was talking about Grateful Dead shows, not a fan of slow&company
Love how Bobby can find twelve different ways to play the same note
this is really the beauty of guitar for me
Check out "Bob Weir What's In My Bag?" on TH-cam and he explains what created his formula.
Best rhythm guitar player of all time. I’ll happily die on that hill.
@@22hogfan94 hard to say best and really who cares? But I know I sure as shit love to hear him play!!!
I had never realized Weir was so integral to this performance of China/Rider. So many great arpeggios. A totally different sort of rhythm guitar he displays here.
Dude, Bobby is the greatest rhythm guitar ever. No joke. The dude knows so many different chords, chord interpretations and variations, and when and where to put them to add that "meat and taters" with Jerry's lead.
Also, check out Phil's playing during that solo. Good gawd, how did these guys all find each other!? It's utterly amazing the way they all blend their unique styles. Phil is basically soloing on his bass the whole time too.
@@risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 Stones are not bad either 😆😆
@RisenFrom youtube'sAshesAgain! But....but...Keith Richards lol
Jerry wrote that part which is why it's so distinct
Rest in peace Phil! We'll never forget you.😢
Most bands wish they could jam like this.
Phish, DMB and Panic do a good job filling some of the void. Saw Jerry's last shows at Soldier's 😢 His legacy will live on... He is dearly missed. RIP Jerry
Thanks for all the fun Phil
Rest in Peace Phil 😢
A young Jerry. RIP for all the good times brother.
Such a peaceful audience, kids dancing on stage, musicians being able to read each other's minds on stage, you cannot see this anymore today....
Look around, you'll find it
RARE one of kind
Sometimes you still can. I still go to bluegrass, blues and folk festivals where most everyone is dancing, including young one's.
Phish
@503 Workshop i meant that figuratively, not literally. Meaning they are all very tuned in dudes.. Now i will get back on my unicorn....
Under the influence, Phil Lesh vocals sound so rustically amazing, very pure and folkish .
Rip my man Phil !! Hope your family is okay !! We are missing you like the song says !!
Every time I realize it's transitioning into I know you rider I start to get very emotional. I remember in my late 20s. My dad was fighting cancer and all I could do to clear my mind was listen to the dead and put in countless hours steelhead fishing. Keep pushing upstream boys. Be tough❤
@@cjhudson419 Me too! And when Jerry sings "I wish I was a headlight on a North bound train",, my eyes well up with tears.
Jerry’s vocals in ‘74 were so rich. I remember going to the theater in 1977 when this was released. It was SO AWESOME!
Wow, Phil's the bandleader on this one, he's driving the song for sure, with Jer and the boys dove tailing along gloriously. They way Jerry, Bob and Phil played together in this era was nothing short of magical.
Yeah there will never be another band like the Dead in my lifetime. Got to see them in the seventies when they were at their peak. Best concerts I ever went to.
The feeling this music gives you is indescribable. The mind becomes liberated.
Yeah it’s like putting the rest of the world on pause for a couple minutes. I can’t stop listening to these fellas
Truly!
Well said/felt!
Jerry's vocals are spot on here. Smooth like honey. Hitting all the little notes and inflections perfectly. Just the way he launches into the first line of I Know You Rider, and how perfectly he nailed all of China Cat really demonstrates what an effective vocalist he had become. His voice just has this certain quality to it, its honest and real. I love it almost as much as I love his guitar playing.
Hard to believe those kids dancing are now in their 50s! I love this transition between songs. GD living on in the hearts of so many.
They could be dead.
I mean technically if someone was 18 this year they'd be almost 70 now
Time flies. I was once 5 and so were you but now we're much older and will never return to being 5.
@@Huelogywe will in our next lifetime
None of em are 50. Try late 60s early 70s. Cheers!
I love the grateful dead I’m 18 now been listening since I was 13. Wish I could’ve seen this live cause it brings me so much joy
In another dimension you are there right now
Turn it up and dance. No one judges at any shows I was at.
I just got a new Siamese cat-no brainer what her new name will be.
name her Bertha
Animals are people
1970’s was the decade of real Rock and Roll, listen to and stress fades!!!! Nothing beats a Dead concert!!! 1968-1995!!! 800 hours of live concert music from the Heavens!!!! The real deal 20-30 minute jams live!!!
Agreed
Every lyric, every instrument is telling it's own story. Like children excitedly telling dad about an experience they had. You can't manufacture this! Thank you Grateful Dead!!
you have never lived untill you have been to a dead concert merry christmas 2020
The China to Rider transition in this one is absolutely sublime. 9:14 That Winterland crowd knew it too!
First saw the Dead at Seattle Paramount. Sept. 78.
Walking by the side of it before show, a dude was smoking and I asked for a lighter. I pointed to a cool round apartment building across the street, and he said, "Yeah, that's crazy looking." We chatted and then he said, "Well, I gotta go. Have a good time my friend !" Then I saw the band for the first time... that was Jerry I was talking with.
I know 800 hours of real to real Dead is about 1/10 of live concert time but to me its a life time of great concerts. Im a 50's baby so by 1970 i was tripping at Dead concerts having a life time of memories
I‘m 16 and i wish i could have seen all these great bands in the 60s and 70s.
Bobby's section on china cat is wonderful. Only 19 years old but wish so badly I could've seen the Grateful Dead. Dead & Co just isn't the same.
When you're listening to the Grateful Dead you're not just listening to music you're having an experience that's the defining line
Love these non-Mickey shows. I don't miss his thump-thump-thump at all.
I danced to this live so many times. We miss you Jerry. I wish we could all go back to these times.
bob is one of most underrated guitarists
2023 still Nuthin like the DEAD.
We are born , we die . It's what happens in between that counts . So grateful .
My favorite 20 or so minutes of the dead that I always come back to when something jogs it in my memory.
I'll miss you Phil.
I was there for 4 out of 5 shows. '74 gave us Deadheads the best China/Riders & Truckins. The Fifth of five on 10/20/74 produced the best first set of songs played by emphatically by the band like it might be the final time. Tennessee Jed brought the house down with Garcia's solos.. It was The Wall of Sound's swan song at its homebase. A top 3 Dead show from 1971-1977 for me at the Mothership Winterland.
Man I wish Phil never would’ve stopped singing. I absolutely love his voice in the early years.
My go to - the transition is everything. It’s my at peace in a song.
I remember those kids dancing on the stage. I was on the other side with Jerry. Such great times! Beautiful work on the video, too. Nice to hear it and see it so clean. Thank you.
Thats - One good thing about the internet.
U r legendary. Much appreciated 😽
So lucky you got to attend it. Would have loved to have been there in those days! Saw my 1st in 90 but times were different then!
Saw my first of many Dead shows in NY at the age of about 15. I have to admit I was a bit star struck when they first walked our on stage. I started listening to them in 1977 but couldn't get permission from my parents to go to a concert at 13 years old but persistence finally paid off 2 long years later!
Howdy 🤠……wonder whose kids they were ?
I wish a was a headlight on a northbound train Id shine my light through the cool Colorado rain :')
Me toooooo!!!
I love that line.
Those kids at the beginning cutting rugs. Shows the power of ❤️.
Jerry’s wolf really shines here. The sound he got from that thing will never be matched. Unreal
Jerry's fingers and his ability to use his guitar as a voice has always amazed me.
"I Know You Rider" has the most beautiful sounds I have ever heard. I go to sleep listening to it, and wake up to "Franklin's Tower."
I was there the night before, it was Bobby's birthday, they had cake onstage. These were supposed to be the last Dead shows ever, the band was callin it quits. Bought some killer Columbian Gold from a dude across the street from Winterland. I went with a guy named Dave. You out there Dave? This is my miracle today. THANKS!
Dave's not here man 😅
Dave owes me twenty bucks.
Why were they going to call it quits after this?
@@bigsky3072 I recall there was a big article in Rolling Stone about these shows and the caption of a photo essay said that "Many DeadHeads sensed a more permanent Farewell" Well thank goodness there was no permanent farewell
These were the shows man lol.... If you were there ya know.... If not you can only stand In awe
Nothing will ever beat the 74 Winterland run for me. God they were firing on all cylinders!
Amen to that brother!!! You cant go wrong with a Dead show but this is the creme of the crop 100%
My first show in 74 billed as ‘A Swell Dance Concert” still have my stub from the Providence show. Long Live the Dead!!!!!!
I LOVE Bobby's little solo on this!! Really just all of bobbys playing on this is fantastic. The rhythm he starts picking up around the 7:45 mark is great. The boys are all on fire. Let Phil sing!!
Like a gushing river, impossible to resist getting awept away in their beautiful music!
Almost in tears by the 2 minute mark, this is truly beautiful music imho, RIP Mr Garcia. All love to all people. Peace.
this is my favorite piece of music right here
Love you too Oliver!
It's live that they deliver the best of themselves!
Bobby could actually play. Rhythm guitarist, so important to the feel and groove and so denied the glory of lead. Kudos to Weir. He really worked hard to develop himself.
At this point in their career, I think Bob was maybe more interested in developing his skills with the ladies. He never regretted not being the lead guitarist.
Weir Everywhere
Weather Report Suite.
Many first class musicians including Jerry have stated that Weir created his own way of rhythm guitar and they loved it. Unique, all his own. Not to mention it compliments Jerrys leads perfectly.
I love Sammy Hagar's description of Bobby - "He's the greatest second banana in all of rock n' roll."
Thank you dad for making me a deadhead.. Went to Dead and Co. with him last night, I feel lucky to share the bond of the Dead's music with him..
Every now and then I will watch Bill and fall in love with his drumming all over again. His technique is underrated and his improvising is full conversation with a drum kit. Beautiful
As a lifelong fan, one never stops appreciating how truly innovative The Grateful Dead were. From Phil’s bass playing to Weirs phrasing’s, right down to JG playing on the off beat and everything else they’re doing. It’s moments like this that you can unequivocally see the impact they have had on countless musicians and artists through the last 50+ years. A billion thank yous to all that made this happen, and for sharing it with us. You have made my brilliant day, that much more brilliant ❤️⚡️🌞
Great
Yep. Took me back to a time long forgotten. There was genuine magic in those songs...
Wonderful insight. Beautifully expressed.
Amen brother!
My kingdom for a time machine…
Man... You can’t get much better than this right here. Perfect mix of that funky China Cat and melodic Rider... Best version IMO hands down!
Audio is so good. Thank you so much.
Audio is good because of the wall of sound
There used to be a bumper sticker that said There’s nothing like a Grateful Dead concert. Truly an amazing experience and nothing like it.
By far and wide the greatest, absolutely the greatest American rock roll band, hands down!!!!!
my life hit a crossroads at my first show. I was instantly transformed and never looked back. All these years later it never fails to move me too years.. thank you great grateful dead. you changed my life and probably saved it. from that first night I've literally never been the same.
Agree! Same here. One show was like a lifetime of experiences somehow. So much more than a live performance that imo no other band has achieved. Happy to have witnessed it.
Good lord the boys are on fire here. 3 masters, each with their own respected and unique weapon of choice, their styles.
Amazingly clear audio here. Can hear every instrument perfectly
That's what was so great about the Wall of Sound set-up. I had the privilege to see the Dead in July 1974 and the venue was in a sports arena in Md. and I was amazed at the clarity of the music and even though it was loud my ears were not ringing after the concert
@@matthewgray469 - Totally man. I just became hip to the "Wall Of Sound" Truly ahead of it's time. You can tell they're using it here as each vocalist has the 2 mic setup to cancel out the feedback from having the PA speakers behind the mics.
The Dead at their peak right here, '74 was by far their best year, most exploratory and innovative jams of their career
👍👌👍👌
I agree. 80s and 90s dead just isnt the same
This was when they had "The Wall of Sound " sound reinforcement system. 660 JBL speakers, 60 Electrovoice tweeters, and 50 McIntosh power amplifiers.
Right on!
It helps to have the two GOAT GUITAR PLAYERS!
Makes me cry. Thanks guys. Unreal.
I'm a little teary eyed myself right now
5am Sunday morning in Woburn Massachusetts on the couch in 2020 listening to the Gratefuldeads I know you Rider with tears running down my face. Not a better way to start the day at 60 years old. God Bless You Jerry Garcia 🙏😞
I cried too. The sun is going to shine in my back door someday. 🙏🔥
I'd Shine My Light through the Cool Colorado Rain❤❤
A young healthy vibrant Garcia!! Does it get any better?
Let's hold him forever in our hearts that way - full of life and all the love he shared with us...💙 (thank you thank you thank you & MAHALO, Jerry)💚🎸🎶💙🎵
From Marin to Moloka'i, in 2020) 🌺
ALOHA 🌴🍍🌴
No it doesn't I've been listening old and in the way and it doesn't get any better than that
No sir. It does not.
I was at this show, I was on my first full tour at 17! My folks bought me a used Vanagon so ide be safe, lol. What a sweet tour, Jerry looks good n happy. Such a blessing to have seen such a great show and summer tour. Many see ‘89 as the best of the later years. Ide agree. It felt like the band never fully recovered from Brent dying a year later. Thank you
The transition always gets to me for some reason and makes me so happy and a bit emotional. It is my favorite stretch of music.
Seeing those two little dancing kids makes me wonder what my parents were doing when this show was happening 49 years ago. My mom was 13 days shy of 9 and my dad was 10, and they both lived in South San Francisco. I can't even begin to describe how bad I wish I could travel back in time and see this performance. I'm absolutely fixated on it.
tripping so hard rn still is crazy to watch them play the way they do!!
Oh thank you thank you my ex-boyfriend Tom for getting me hooked on the Dead. My record collection would truly be empty and incomplete and oh so very lonely. The hippy Mozarts. Their ingenious subtle use of chords and timing puts The Grateful Dead in the classical music genre in my opinion. Jerry Garcia was a true musical genius. RIP Jerry. I missed seeing one of your last concerts because you had traveled on to your next journey. I am glad that you were able to make that bus ride.
I love how Jerry steps back and lets Bob have his jam and smiles with approval at his protege...
Those beautiful little children is where it's at!
This is a phenomenal version of the classic combo China->Rider. Feelin Groovy transition.
Bob and Jerrys riffs play so well off one another in chinacat and there is nothing greater than the segue into rider jam
Such gifted talent when they all play together so well. I miss Jerry and The Dead, Thank you for posting!
Even from all my tours. I just still bow down to this
Bob always shines on that China/Rider transition section. Some of his best playing.
I'd like to see those two little kids today 46 years later!!!
I can't count how many times I've watched/listened to this - this is gold. Stay grateful everyone!! You know our Love will Not Fade Away
I'm a bartender and got into a conversation about the best drummers. there are so many greats. but nobody could argue with about Bill & Mickey being the best together!
Such a wonderful groove , brilliant interplay, weaving bass lines , the lot , it’s all here.
Arguably the best moment ever captured on film or video of the band. Here, every band member is playing to his full potential in perfect balance with the others, each one attuned completely to what is happening around them. Garcia is at his best here, but Bobby is keeping up brilliantly. Lesh is on fire, and Bill swings like a freight train at cruising speed. Anyone who never saw the band or is just getting into them could do much worse than start right here.
Uh, this is the best thing on the internet. Bar none. Did you see those children dancing to Jerry singing these magical lyrics on his beautiful guitar?
Alluv for the upload. Great quality.
Phil on fire as always
Thanks! Please keep this high-quality 70's and 80's footage coming!
Listening to Dead for 4+ decades, and I am still in awe. This is pure Dead.
know you rider is for me the ultimate live dead tune combining community tradition and transcendence.....gone are the days....
I absolutely love the soloing that Bobby does to segway to rider. I love that Jerry just stepped back and said "Bobby is just as good, have a listen."
well... not "just" as good. but very good in his own right. Jerry is one of the handful of best players ever.
Pure. Gold. The only ones that do what they do...