This is gonna sound weird, but I LOVE THIS SM. This IS DRAMA. Actual drama, not people being atrocious humans or creeps. Just plain high school drama. This is that 'Did you hear what Joana did?'
I love that she justifies holding onto the hoodie for 2 extra weeks and posting multiple photoshoots of herself wearing it with "you guys, it was sooo cute", but then it's just...a plain black nike hoodie. Yeah for sure, girl, wearing that hoodie was a once in a lifetime opportunity, how could you not lol.
My best guess is that either she wanted the dude, or she wanted to steal the hoodie. I feel like she was trying to make it seem like the dude couldn't ask for it back since she was making sure a big deal having it and liking it.
This girl is so sus😅 the big strong man needed a sammy a day after he mounted your tv...From a bakery...And come pick it up before work...by yourself hopefully? Girl nobody believes this mess😅 That girlfriend showed up with him to grab the sandwich so hoodie girl wouldn't grab him!!! This girl is so fake and I am here for it! So invested in this HS bs
Nah, some people just have really good hoodies. There was this guy we all wanted to steal a comfy pink hoodie from but no one would touch him because iugh.
Coming from someone who once stole a guy’s hoodie and put it on and didn’t want to take it off, I didn’t just grab it because it looked comfortable, I wanted to mess with him. So yeah, her taking this guy’s hoodie is way more than “oh hey I’m cold can I borrow your hoodie, I’ll give it back” or “that looks cute, can I try it on”. I think we all know that guys supposedly like it when girls wear their hoodies so she obviously knew what she was doing!
It’s not war if you’re sneaky enough. Mine freaked out way more about my taking their 1990s Gameboy and Pokémon cards. And while both could easily kick my ass, they know I move in the shadows and they would regret it 😈 I’m a dick and I’m the oldest so I’ve always stolen from my brothers. As the guinea pig child (the next oldest to me is almost four years younger and I was always the one in trouble…rightly so but resented it) I felt entitled to mess with them. Still do. We’re all grown adults over 30 and they know I can pick locks so…next oldest started bringing a freaking safe over the holidays 😂😂
What gets me more than anything is how defensive she is. If she genuinely was oblivious and didn’t mean anything by her semi-flirty gestures, she would’ve been more apologetic towards the ex-bestie and less heated.
THIIIIS!!! like literally, when someone genuinely has a wrong impression of you, ESPECIALLY your dang bff, I would personally BEG on my knees for her to understand me and do as much as I can to prove that whatever she thinks happened wasn't the case. Lil miss steal-your-bf's-hoodie is GUILTY!
@@rafeek.9623 No, you should never beg for a friend, if she was your friend she would not think so low of you. As someone i had a friend that left me because she thought i wanted her boyfriend, i never begged, she dm she doesn't want to be friends with me and i just said ok, she was emotionally abusive to me, it hurt me ending but what she did was the best thing for me. She ended her friendship with everyone short after. She was also the girl that said "i prefer guy friends over girls, girls are so much drama" and was jealous of every girl her bf knew, later i learnt he had flirt with most girl in our university so she maybe had her reasons. Maybe i am bias because as someone with low interest in guys i don't get why people accuse women of filtring for doing basic things, she could be flirting but you were very extreme and dramatic. If my friend did anything that Hurt me i wouldn't want them to beg on their knees, that would make me pity you and lose the respect i had for you, act like a normal human.
Hilariously, we would probably be more understanding if she just admitted she liked him because he was hot because...look at him! We would be all like "yeah still not ok that you would betray your friend, but...yeah he's hot so the jealousy is fair enough lol" But instead she pretends to hold the high ground on this and play dumb and it just backfires on her
I don't agree. As someone who was a victim of massive bullying because a friend believed in some random rumours about me dissing her, over my character. I would not be apologetic if in my true opinion I did nothing wrong and they just ghosted me for no reason. I would 100% be pissed that instead of talking to me, my friend decided to trust third person like that. But then honestly, I would not wear my friend's boyfriend's hoodie, and I would not buy sandwich just for her boyfriend, because I would know full well that her boyfriend is helping me only because I'm his girlfriend's friend.
@@flysmask I'm sorry you were bullied. You make a fair point - nobody should have to apologize if they genuinely did nothing wrong. My issue with this girl is that she doesn't consider that MAYBE some of her behaviors were inappropriate and that the ex-friend has a right to be annoyed.
@@charliegibson4016 or you could buy him coffee too would show him that you care as well, its how Me and my friend act, i buy coffee and she drives Me , she bought lunch one Time i bought another
He's not my type but she's pretty obvious in liking him. Posting thirst traps? Waking up to give him a sandwich? Wearing his boring ass hoodie? Come ON
I love watching different TH-cam commentary channels react to the same drama because it showcases the different personalities of the people I watch very well.
the hoodie thing. i used to "borrow" my male best friend's hoodie in high school a lot, meaning when we had classes together i'd snatch it from his chair and wouldn't give it back until the end of the day. (yes, i've been cold a lot too, but mostly i just liked the hoodie and how it looked on me). but the second he even hinted he might have a chance at going out with someone he really liked i immediately stopped taking his hoodie. he was still my best friend, but it felt like the hoodie was now hers to stea- ... err, 'borrow', not mine. she never had to ask me this, because it was a given. so this joanna 'borrowing' her allegedly best friend's soon-to-be boyfriend's hoodie is screaming sus at the top of its lung volume to me.
Seeing the ex-friend's reply first gives the impression that the drama is simply a miscommunication between the group, but once you get more context from the girlfriend, it's evident that the behavior is definitely crossing boundaries. It's such real drama.
@@EveTheRavioloI mean, I once traded hoodies with my friend's boyfriend for a full day, but that was as a joke and there were absolutely zero photoshoots done.
@@EveTheRaviolo Yeah, the other parts I can excuse, I've had people think I'm flirting when I'm just trying to be friendly, but the hoodie sealed it for me. Borrowing a friend's hoodie is fine, keeping it for two weeks posting pics in it because it was "so cute" (it's a black Nike hoodie) is shady.
If they lived together, why couldn't she just give her friend the hoodie as means of returning it? She knew they liked each other - that's how I know she had other intentions.
For anyone who didn't see Joanna's videos with the hoodie, she was literally walking in a store wearing the hoodie in question saying "why would I waste money on a hoodie when I can just use my bf? I'm saving myself 100 bucks"
I honestly thought the gf was trippin at first, but definitely this is pick-me behavior. She was trying to position herself as a “friend” to the bf to get close to him and make the gf look jealous and crazy. Classic pick-me move. Having him do her a favor, then trying to feed him? Come on 😂
or men and women can have a normal interaction. Pick me is about women who are one of the boys and put other women down. I didn't see that here. Asking someone a favour and give them something as thanks is not flirting if you ask me. Do you have any interactions with the opposite sex with out wanting to date them?
@@anna.owo.it wasnt just that tho. the behavior the ‘friend’ displayed towards the boyfriend was pretty obvious that the girlfriend was able to pick up on it. the ‘friend’ getting food for the ‘boyfriend’ after he helped her is innocent enough but combine it with all the other things she did, it paints a whole different story.
Cooper, you do understand girl flirting. Stealing your sweatshirt is flirting. Wearing it all the time is flirting. Posting pix and videos on social media with cute shirt skirts is thirst trapping! Buying a special sandwich you like after work and wanting you to come over early meaning probs without the girl and girl having to get up extra early to get ready and made up and cute was for sure flirting! And that girl buying you a mocha frap everyday for months wasn't flirting... She was proposing marriage.
I am in agreement except for the hoodie part. My sister steals hoodie from her male friends all the time and they are just her friends; BUT I believe the main difference between that and girl flirting is that she never keeps them. I mean it happened a couple of time on accident since both parties forgot to give it back/ that she had it, but she simply washed them and kept them neat in a closet till she saw them again. Keeping AND wearing a stolen hoodie (more so showcasing it) all the time is definitely an act of flirtation and a cheeky one at that :))
Well this is kinda right and wrong. The stealing hoodies isn’t exactly always flirting or meant as a crush thing. My friend steals her male friends hoodies and she a lesbian. Sometimes it genuinely just best friends being best friends. And buying a sandwich you like as a thank you isn’t exactly flirting either depending on the context and situation. It could genuinely be a friendly gesture so it doesn’t apply with every situation. But in this situation she definitely had feelings for her friend boyfriend considering how she doesn’t respect her friend boundaries and does inappropriate stuff without consulting her friend.
My favorite part of this story is the sandwich for mounting her TV. He didn’t fall for that shit, he took his GF cause he KNEW what this girl was TRYING to do! That’s HUSBAND material right there, girl! No wonder the friend wanted him so bad!
I really don't understand that thing though. He didn't take her girlfriend there, she was already there. The two girls were roommates at that time. He was supposed to go there before work and she volunteered to get up early to hand the sandwich to him. The girlfriend must have got up early too so the second girl gave it to her instead of giving to him. But seriously, if she wanted a chance to be alone with the guy she should have made a better plan, one in which he wasn't in a rush to go to work and his GF wouldn't have been around
@@lapatti before I was married, I would frequently spend the night at my boyfriend’s house, then head to work the next morning without going home before. I assume that’s what was going on in this situation.
Now we finally have the answer to people who asks *"ugh, why is the boyfriend never blamed!?"*. Now i fully understand why joana is alone in the spotlight, bc it really is her fault
The sandwich thing honestly seems fine. I express my gratitude or love through cooking for someone (I once tried making an entire meal for people fixing our roof cause I felt bad they were outside for 8+ hours) so I don't feel like making a sandwich for someone who mounted a TV is necessarily bad
Except reality TV is scripted or edited heavily to push a narrative, while people posting their own drama on social media is sooo much messier and juicier. 😂
I had a friend sort’ve like this. Any time I told her about a crush she would immediately start flirting with them. Some people are just so desperate for attention, its sad.
My friend was in a situation like that with someone we're no longer friends with. She'd tell this other girl about a new guy she's interested in and that other girl would make her show her his profile only to message him later. She'd even send pics. The loyal ones would tell the first girl about it and that's how she found out this kept happening.
That's really sad :( if my friend confided in me about her crush I'd be really excited about it. Unfortunately I've had the same. Can't let certain girls too close to me.
I had a friend like that too. It's what ended our friendship since she just kept seeing us as competition. The worst one was, we had this mutual guy friend, I didn't like him & I had/have my bf at the time and I don't think she liked him either. Anyways, her him and I were just hanging out and she just randomly asked him to rate her and I in scale of being hot. I said, uh no that's weird and not cool. She looked at me, didn't care and asked him again all excited. He dead looked her up and down and said 3 then said but Nora's a high 8 at least. She said nothing, looked like she was going to cry, and walked away. (At this time, me and her were growing apart, I'm pretty sure that was the last time we ever hung out)
I ALMOST defended that Joanna girl. ALMOST. Then I saw the boyfriend and was like Yeah, she's a boyfriend thief, or an attempted boyfriend thief. Points awarded to the girlfriend for going with her guts.
Hellll Nahhh bro even before bf reveal i think she pretty much gave away herself with that sandwich point cuz i was saying that exact same thing as cooper that why wouldn't she get her friend a sandwich too and adding that with the context from gf just made all the sense in the world Ngl to me the hoodie thing was sketchy too cuz and then after hoodie reveal yeah that is very very sketchy
I heard her side of the story first. I believed her with the "best friends list" thing. Then she started talking about the hoodie and I'm like "wow this girl really believes the lies she's telling right now😂😂😂😂
Ngl I feel bad for Joanna mainly because that need for male validation and attention has her in a chokehold. The addiction to attention and dating is rough and I hope she figures it out.
I had a friend like this. She cheated on her spouse and then was the other woman in multiple relationships. She seemed to think that she was so amazing these guys just couldn’t help themselves instead of the truth she was easy to hide because she was insecure and willing to do anything to get that attention.
@@alexacarrillo4339 It is a drug and an extremely hard one to quit. But like any drug you need to figure out what it is fulfilling in you that you cannot give yourself.
No. There is no validation to hurt your own best friend. I also crave for male attention as well but I would NEVER hurt my best friend for it ever. And there are so many cute boys out there if she actually cared about her best friend she would hold her feelings in and move on and find a different guy but she did not do that. Stop trying to justify this snake behaviour it’s gross.
@@Al3xAckerman my friend constantly tried to get my boyfriends to fall for her. I knew my spouse was a keeper when he rolled his eyes at her attempts to get him interested in her.
@@Al3xAckerman I’m not excusing her behavior by pointing out her addiction. Calling an alcoholic an alcoholic isn’t giving them validation the same thing goes for a dating addict that harms people with her addiction.
The two weeks with the hoodie is insane, and photoshoots? I get buying him a meal as a thanks, but with all this context is insaaaane. Love this type of drama tho
Buying him a sandwich is one thing but telling him to come over to her place early in order to get it and then seemingly getting upset cos the girlfriend was there too.... Yeah that's really suspicious behavior
you calling yourself the bad boy of youtube while wearing a grandma sweater with a collar and what looks like pink pearls is so iconic I love it (Also i love the outfit so much)
@@emmarosehurt He says it in every vid lol, all his necklaces are made of real pearls and stones like tiger's eye and diorite. You're allowed to think they're goofy but how can a necklace possibly be vague?
the boyfriend is gorgeous so its not unbelievable, she also posted a picture of her in her friends boyfriends hoodie and just underwear the way that would make me SICK
I would go cold before ever taking a hoodie from my friend’s boyfriend. No matter how innocent it is, I’m actively refusing any offers. That’s the only option if you’re not a homewrecker.
Not always. I’ve taken my friend’s hoodies before (who are men, I’m a woman) and I’ve never liked them (I’m gay). I did give them back and it didn’t mean anything.
what i love about these situations is it’s a great learning opportunity for my autistic ass to learn WHAT people see as flirting. it’s like a case study and everyone is weighing in with their perceptions and im just over here taking notes of what not to do
Okay but forreal I was no shit watching the first video dumbfounded like "okay I get the hoodie thing, I only ever wore my ex's hoodie when he was MINE because he was MINE, but everything just sounds totally harmless? Isn't this what friends do to show kindness and gratitude for people existing?" Because I'm the idiot who would absolutely buy someone food to say 'hey thanks for doing this thing for me' because my Mum taught me that you can barter services with food lol but in the context of cooking for a lifelong friend who mowed our lawn, versus a guy she barely knows and is only in her life because he's the partner of her friend....... It's situational, I think. Like these are vibes you don't cross unless you are already super platonic, super close, and super not going anywhere.
@@Moon0525_ I would buy food as well as a token of my appreciation but I would get for the both of them and only after I asked the friend if she’s okay with it
@@Moon0525_ also! i'm not autistic but as someone who likes doing nice things for friends, i think buying a sandwich for an acquaintance as a thank you is fine, i genuinely dont understand the problem with that tbh, BUT asking the guy to come over alone to her house to pick it up is where it's definitely bad. if it was just bringing a sandwich over when he is already at home with the girlfriend or asking the girlfriend to pass on a sandwich from her or picking up the tab for him when everyone is having a meal together, i think it would be fine.
tbh if someone thinks you're attractive, they'll perceive a lot of silly things as flirting. I'm autistic and have a long-term partner myself, but most of this stuff is just so minor that i wouldn't even make note of it.
What’s so revealing about the sandwich thing is that truly, it IS just a sandwich, BUT, realistically if she valued that friendship with someone who she was also living with at the time, she would’ve mentioned to the friend FIRST that she wanted to get some small gift like a sandwich as a thank you for him putting up a tv in their shared home. Or she could’ve offered for them to all go out and get sandwiches and she pays to thank him. She could’ve done so many other things to show gratitude but her intentions are pretty clear with how she went about it in total disregard to her friend and her relationship.
Ikr, like with my girl friends, I talk to them about their boyfriends instead of the boyfriends directly. I got my bestie a gift and even threw in a little extra for her bf that I never met to show I at least respect his existence lol.
The least I'd do in such a situation is get a sandwich each for both of them. Because agaaain, like she herself mentioned, all three of them were in the room that day helping mount the TV. Why is she expressing gratitude only towards the friend's boyfriend?? It is soooo obvious😭
I highly doubt that the stealing boyfriend best friend girl wasn’t bullied by the whole internet. Sure her life might not be destroyed, but she is definitely impacted irl by this whole drama.
The ex stealing best friend life and career might not be destroyed but her mental health might definitely be fucked considering how her name is being dragged through the mud all over the internet and people is definitely destroying her and her self esteem. 💀
@@donthugmeimscared8522 bruh she literally is the one who made it about herself. She WANTED attention. No one ever mentioned her name before she went out there and decided to take the spotlight and make it about herself.
@@EveTheRaviolo That's not the point though. The commenter is contradicting the assumption that this drama didn't harm the people involved in it. It definitely did, as goes with all internet drama. It's not harmless entertainment, whether you believe the person being being harmed deserves it or not doesn't change that fact.
Your jumper is, indeed, VERY cute. The fact she called a plain black hoodie 'cute' is the most ridiculous part of the whole ordeal. It's so nice to go back to this sort of drama that doesn't involve the most deprived shit ever and ukulele apologies.
It's the sweater and insane amount of pictures on the wall, isn't it? Like you'd be kind of surprised if he didn't have a little crystal bowl full of licorice All Sorts or hard candy in his living room. The candy bowl would also have a lace doily under it and he'd try to be cool about asking you to put your drink on a coaster
It definitely feels really really weird for her to not only keep the hoodie, post about the hoodie, but to pull the string out is a weirdly personal thing
WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED THIS. She straight up had no intention of ever giving it back. I was so triggered when I noticed her doing that in the video. Wtf
@@thecat11112 I know right? How can you 'hear' the story being told in detail along with literally 'seeing' the actual videos and still get it wrong?? Were like 1.1k folks on hallucinogens while watching this video or something?? Just mind-boggling.
I know Cooper would be the friend i can facetime and talk about stupid drama in niche communities and he'd listen so intently and love it. He'd do theatrics during it to like gasp "no!" and get super emotionally invested haha.
I still feel like I'm trying to flirt when I use my husband's hoodie *while he's gone* and I've been married for seventeen years. 😂 That is flirtation. You can't tell me otherwise.
You’re right. That isn’t a cute hoodie…that’s a cute-boy’s regular-ass hoodie. She’s an annoying pick-me girl who steals as a way to flirt. If she stole your sweatshirt, she’d have a better argument, because that’s a cute sweatshirt. Also, total king behavior by you (as usual) to admit that his abs make every argument she has null and void. She’s flirting with that man. Anyone around that man is probably flirting with him. 😂 It’s still not cool to flirt with your friend’s man.
Don't trust "friends" who go straight up to the person you said you like/think is cute. They about to make your thing with that person all about themselves. Trust friends who encourage you to go talk to that person your damn self. They want to see you succeed on your own two feet.
nah my friend talked to this guy for my other friend and they have been happily dating and she never made it about herself she barely likes him as a person lol. I think it's nice of friends to do that if you're too shy yourself
i don’t think it’s inherently wrong if a friend wants to approach their friend’s crush. what’s important is the motive behind those actions. Are they doing it to hurt their friend? or are they just being a good wingman? intent is important
I remember a story on Reddit a while back where two female best friends are roommates and one has a boyfriend. The single friend is always complaining about the boyfriend spending time with his gf not bc she feels jealous that he’s taking her bestie but because she thinks he should hang out with her solo. Then the couple decided to go on a road trip and the single friend complains and cries until they decide to take her with them and on the road trip she prepared meals and snacks for the road trip for only herself and the best friends boyfriend lol.
While the hoodie is DEFINITELY the cincher here, NOT the sandwich... the fact she called him over specifically is suspicious. Like why not just give it to the friend to hand over?
OKAY I'VE CRACKED IT, I felt weird about this one because it felt wrong and right at the same time, that's when I realized its has to do with CULTURE To Americans, this is normal, they get lunch for their friends dog too But in Asian culture, you DON'T get/cook food for just anyone, its a testament of love Idk if you watch Kdrama or Jdrama/shoujo (romance)Anime but giving food to the someone is basically asking them out... Or you just care about them so much e.g Best friend/siblings. So this is a big NOPE from me, the girl defo wanted her bf! She can't try the lunch thing in Korea, giving your friends bf lunch?? oh hell nah!
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess not true, food is often given in Asia as a thank you. My mother (a doctor) often receives food from her patients after treating them, we also always bring food or another gift to thank hosts whenever we are invited to somebody's house. Also if someone were to decide to get someone they really liked something it's usually more personal and hand-made/home cooked. However, the way she went about it was definitely weird, since all three of them were in her room mounting the TV together it's weird the girlfriend wasnt more included in deciding to get him a thank you gift or if she wanted it to be from herself only then she should have gotten them both a gift since technically both the bf and gf were there to help even if the bf happened to do most of the work. The most normal thing to do would've been to go out together, all 3 of them, after mounting it and then paying for their meal/sandwich as a thankyou
I don’t think she was expecting the gf to be there at all and only handed it to her instead of him because she knew that she was caught and wanted to save face
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess to americans its also not normal that your friend who steals your boyfrien's hoodies goes out of her way to get him his favorite sandwish and waked up early to be alone with him when giving it to him.
I think the close friends thing and the sandwich-in-exchange-for-TV-mounting are negligible. My best friend gives my boyfriend food all the time, ESPECIALLY as an act of gratitude. The hoodie thing is the most suspicious bit of all of this.
Honestly, none of it is THAT sus. If any of this happened with my best friends, I really wouldn't care, because I trust them and I know they're good people. BUT I know this one girl who needs attention as much as she needs oxygen, and I would be so sus of her if she did all of that. I think its less about the actions, and more about the ✨️vibe✨️ the person gives off. The ex-BFF must be an untrustworthy person for 3 people to cut her off over this.
It’s more of the context. She told the friends bf to stop by her house before work to come get the sandwich. Didn’t tell her own friend, just told him, so if you don’t find it weird if your friend would be inviting your bf over to pick up food by himself and not mention it to you. That’s weird
What would have upset me would have been her texting him and trying to get him to come over alone early in the morning without even mentioning it to me
See this is what I mean when I say “I hate being involved in drama but I love hearing about it” it’s so fun to just hear about ACTUAL drama like this, not people being horrible disgusting creeps and it being called “drama”
Listen, this girl wouldn't have outted herself if she didn't feel attacked. I personally think that she knew what she was doing about the close friends stuff and my friends would respect my thoughts feelings and insecurities revolving around my boyfriend if they were really my friends, because that's what friends do. I had a girl play the long con to get at my man and get inside his head so much that she dog piled on me when his friends made fun of my religion and didn't realize that that's not cool, you won't even back me up in a conversation? My bf even told them to lay off and she then got nervous. DND sessions before this, she asked me about how sex was like and how sex with my bf was like and I'm like wtf? She doesn't show up after making fun of me and then we find out that her BFF died and she flew to her funeral to SLEEP WITH HER DEAD FRIENDS HUSBAND!! THE WIDOWER!! she made him move out here and hasn't been texting my bf unless she posts on her story that she's having relationship issues. Sus ppl are always sus and your sweater is very cute love you cooper 😍 paint your nails teal and maroon tis the season 💕
My friend has done this for me before, thought I’d found a fiver that I’d forgotten about and found out 6 months later that it was my friend secretly paying me back for something 🥹
I do find it weird how so many ppl were willing to go to a random dudes apartment that they just meet. As a woman I would not be comfortable enough to trust that even if the dude seemed chill and my friend liked him.
I have no idea why I am so entertained by this. I'm a grown ass man... a gen X'er at that. I have a life... I'm a musician, a producer, a film soundtrack composer. I don't even have time for this; yet here I am, glued to my phone watching the play by play about the damn sandwich and hoodie. Kudos bro... Kudos indeed.
the hoodie thing is def weird (sharing clothing items is very intimate to me unless its like a raincoat or smth). the sandwich thing for me is pretty normal EXCEPT the part where she invited the boy to her house to retrieve the sandwich. I mean to me, if Im gonna give someone a sandwich as a thankyou, I would probably give it on the spot after he mounted the TV, OR go to his place to give it to him, because again, its a thank you gesture. im not gonna let u go through the trouble of going to my house if im actually grateful and saying thank you! thats bad manners, unless i have ulterior motives to get you to my house alone!!! this is fun juicy drama tho I agree 😂😂
Sammeeeeee!! Its the" come get it next day before you leave for work thingy"and not letting her friend(gf) give it to him instead or letting her know about it since they were roommates.
lol you are soooo right. I was expecting to see the same ole crusty dusty bf and then bam-he was serious business right there. I get it. This warrants a good cat fight here lol
Also autistic so just guessing here: She seems to have a kind of passive-aggressive and incredulous tone. Like, she is defending herself as if it should be obvious, even though what she's saying is def sketchy on paper. It's such a subtle tone as well cause she's trying to manipulate the info publicly to make the other girl seem crazy and controlling. I think the context makes it stand out further, for me.
I'm autistic, I'll try to explain. she's using her tone and flippant attitude to manipulate people into believing her. basically what happened was you were lied to...by a pretty good liar. she's using her tone and dismissive attitude to manipulate ppl into thinking "she wasn't trying to flirt, she's just nice. she actually doesn't care at all" all while she hides her deception (like conveniently leaving out the part where she said she thought the bf was hot). anyways, if it was genuinely an expression of gratitude, she would've gotten her friend one too. since she said her friend also helped mount the tv. it's also very telling she said in another vid that the gf "should've just talked to her and told her to stop". when people repeated disrespect you and cross boundaries, you don't need to hash things out if you don't want to. if the gf had tried to talk it out, Joanne would've acted exactly like she did in her vid, except in that case, if she were to act EXACTLY like she did in that vid to her friend, she'd be gaslighting her friend and telling her that her intuition is wrong when it's not
Big glaring question left answered, did she give the hoodie back to the boy or the girlfriend? Girl's girl who didn't have interest would likely give it to the girl bc you see her more and know her better.
@lyvphoenix TRUE, i used to borrow my *ex* best friends things all the time, but i lived closer to his *ex* gf and id see her before him in the day so if he left shit in my car id give it to her because i saw her first (im still friends with her and him just not as close since school ended)
Tbh since they lived together and that’s when the boyfriend mounted TV and the girl wanted to show gratitude with a sandwich seems fine really, as a “thank you” gesture I’d do the same, plus telling him to come over to THEIR house where both of them were living together with the girlfriend it seems fine, it’s not like she told him to come over to hers. But the whole hoodie situation is wilddddd and how can you claim someone else’s boyfriends hoodie like that is crazy lol I’d go nuts just over this
@@no.6377 i think this is a band thing, it is a nike hoddie, she said she liked brands even if her friend didn't know that doesn't mean she lied. I personally don't get people buy supreme, nike etc and flex the brand.
Lmfao that sweater stealing girl, trying to defend herself only to poke more holes in the story… Only further incriminating herself. Never trust people like this. I see why she got cut off. Snakes like her won’t tell you they’re snakes.
Honestly even the fact that it sounds like it was her birthday, the friend (the actual gf) thought dude was cute and she ran up and outed her… it reminds me of in middle school when the pick me girls would be like “I’ll talk to him for you” Then would run up like “omg Jessica likes you Sam, isn’t that crazyyy?!?!? Do you even like her” And if they said no they’d flirt with them and make fun of their friend for daring to have a crush, but if they said yeah then they’d start a weird competition with the girl because “I set you guys up!”
@@ootlek6057 nah, that type is practically a trope. the second they hear you like a guy they try to get him. sometimes they just want to see if they can get your guy to cheat. someone else's man being attracted to her means she has worth or something. it's very strange. pick-me's basically. they're a branch of pick-me's. it comes from very low self-esteem and misogyny.
@@mischr13oh i've dealt with those types of girls before so I know what you're talking about, I'm just saying there's been no information that suggests that that's how the hoodie girl approached the guy. Not defending her, just saying it sounds like extrapolation/projection to me lol
She's actually better than me cuz I just pretend guys I like don't exist for the most part. And then if they talk to me I melt and can't speak properly. Cuz boys are so gross. 😝😝😭😂🤣
@@no.6377 no yeah I’m really too cool and interesting to talk to boys 🙄but if I did steal a guys hoodie for two weeks and post it on instagram it’s bc I’m just 💕✨that kind of girl 💕✨and like that with everyone 🙄💅
This is so funny because it’s so innocent. I feel like the internet is just collectively gossiping about our classmates or something. This has peak high school drama energy and I LOVE IT.
what would be even funnier and more juicy is if joanna actually had no ties to the op, she just made that video in response for funsies and now everyone is involved in drama that was never hers to begin with
It isn't weird to buy lunch yes, but it's just the extra steps she did to buy said lunch. She volunteered to wake up extra early to get him lunch for work. That's like girlfriend level effort. So that made me sideeye Joanna.
@@Nkunji yeah I hadn’t heard that part when I left this comment. I also don’t understand this…. Did she buy the sandwich at midnight? Why did giving someone a sandwich involve waking up early??
@@tvmayer i think she did got it at night at her way from her job. And wanted him to get it early because they probably would not meet later, he was going to come for his gf, the girls were roommates. I would not wake up for him, i only wake up early for my bestie but i get if you want to give him something you got, i just wouldn't.
@@anna.owo. Exactly, why not just give it to the girlfriend to give him the lunch. Or wait till he comes over to the apartment to give him the lunch. Why volunteer to wake up super early. Very weird.
@@Nkunji agreed. Buying lunch is within bound, going way out of your way to run into the person to give them something (including food) is very strange. She could have just gone with a gift card or a $15 Venmo. 🤔🤔🤔
Kinda seems like a person that’s a “ppl pleaser” that tried to so hard that it backfired. Idk if anyone knows what I mean by that but to me, that’s what it feels like. She tried so hard with her friend by making her own birthday about her friend hooking up and tried to be so nice to the new guy her friend likes that it comes off as boundary-less. That being said, the other woman is more in the right. This woman seems to not know how to respect boundaries, whether that’s purposeful or not, idk.
As a therapist, I'd diagnose attachment trauma which can result in a lot of the things I'm seeing here--dismissive, condescending, invalidating ("gaslighting") behavior, acting in a way that's untrustworthy, boundary-less, attention-seeking, and/or people pleasing behavior. 😂😂
ppl r reaching so hard to make joana out to b a viscous, villain bestfriend and its irking me sm. yal hav to calm tf down its not that deep. And for the gf to post abt this a YEAR later is so low n attention seeking. all the things joana did were w reason, except the excuse being the hoodie is "rlly cute" cant back her up on that one tbh. ppl love to pin girls against eachother over a boy🤢
@@nellieshoalsAs someone studying and training to become a therapist, I definitely wouldnt diagnose anything here. You dont even know any of these people, all you did was listen to some drama on the internet. Idk, I take the word diagnosis seriously.
@@nellieshoalsI don’t think you should be diagnosing anyone just from a few clips online. I certainly hope you AREN’T a therapist bc this kinda shit is icky.
I watch queerkiwi, Annamarie, chad chad, flim cooper, not even Emily, and funky frog bait mostly and they have similar opinions but it feels different because they all have very different styles of comitary so I don’t mind them useing the same drama lol
It's such a red flag that she intentionally conflates 'attention trap' (which has nothing to do with gender or even attraction, and can be anything you post to bait for attention, like vaguely but repeatedly complaining about how 'you're so sad and no one talks to you' for example; basically fishing for supply) with thirst trap (which is specifically to get sexual attention/praise from the gender/s you like). The way she dodges all these accusations by not answering or by intentionally sidestepping/debating something else (like defending a thirst trap rather than just saying 'i don't post attention traps') made me not believe a gd thing she says. I've known too many manipulators to not recognize that bs lol
I enjoy this drama. No one is getting hurt in a major way; no one wins or loses majorly. Everyone involved consented to being involved and having their stuff aired out on the public stage. In a way it's kind of wholesome compared to what you typically hear nowadays. It's like we're in a High School lunchroom and the whole table has gone silent because we're eavesdropping on what's playing out at the table next to us. (but better because it's without the awkwardness of actually being in High School)
The minute a girl makes a video after someone talks about them without mentioning them they're immediately guilty because no one knew who she was plus her boyfriend looks like a model
The sandwich detail became important to me. Before work is such a specific time, specifically for him to be alone. Realistically if he’s going to work he should be alone on his way to work. To invite him to get it before work implies that she wanted him to come alone. Of which I feel like he told his girlfriend about this and she felt that exact same way. Making the sandwich the important detail she made it out to be because it’s what planted the seeds of mistrust. EDIT: yea sorry didn’t finish the video but this point was made kind of
the couple probably were already aware of the flirting and actively pointing out her little attempts at it lmao I would do the same with my bf, like "did u see the shit she posted today"
The sandwich thing isn't incriminating itself, but adding the hoodie story into the mix definitely makes the view of the "innocent" action seem less innocent tbh.
As soon as she admitted to taking and posting the supposed “cute” jacket, I immediately was like yeah you would’ve been on the ground had it been anyone else. lol
The term you’re referring to is the “Streisand Effect”, when someone takes a piece of media that is obscure and makes a big deal out of it, thus bringing more attention to it than would have happened had they simply stayed quiet on the matter 😚
it actually means that you try to hide an oopsie, but doing so blows it up. Look up the actress Streissand or the incident where Beyonce tried to remove unappealing Photos from a Website- making it post those Photos AGAIN saying "so and so many photos Beyonce tries to hide" or smth like that :D
She removed the string from the hoodie!!!! You know that is impossible to get that string back in the hood!!!! The horror! LOL! Great commentary! Yes! You are a stand-up boyfriend. You are so good! LOL!
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This is gonna sound weird, but I LOVE THIS SM. This IS DRAMA. Actual drama, not people being atrocious humans or creeps. Just plain high school drama. This is that 'Did you hear what Joana did?'
No ur so right
Like he said, “innocent pure GOOD DRAMA!” 😂😂
ITS AWESOME LMAO it’s not serious, depressing drama it’s the fun type
Exactly! We deserve some just normal ppl drama for once
The type of low stakes drama we all need to reset😂😂
“I’m notorious for stealing my friends belongings and not giving them back” is a wild thing to defend yourself with😭😭😭
Defending something *bad* you did, with one of your *bad* traits is not the route you wana go 😭
“You stole my dog”. 🤪🤪 I’m just notorious for stealing dogs, just my quirk
@@elligwynter2160 right like anything is excusable as long as it’s just cute and quirky☺️😁 lmfao😂
It’s giving _stealing a guys snapback and walking around awkwardly wearing it all night at the cast party_
@@moonriverinc7896 BAHAHAHHAHAA
I love that she justifies holding onto the hoodie for 2 extra weeks and posting multiple photoshoots of herself wearing it with "you guys, it was sooo cute", but then it's just...a plain black nike hoodie. Yeah for sure, girl, wearing that hoodie was a once in a lifetime opportunity, how could you not lol.
EXACTLY
Also if they are roommates she could have literally just taken the hoodie to the next room?!? Why keep it? That’s so weird!
My best guess is that either she wanted the dude, or she wanted to steal the hoodie. I feel like she was trying to make it seem like the dude couldn't ask for it back since she was making sure a big deal having it and liking it.
This girl is so sus😅 the big strong man needed a sammy a day after he mounted your tv...From a bakery...And come pick it up before work...by yourself hopefully? Girl nobody believes this mess😅 That girlfriend showed up with him to grab the sandwich so hoodie girl wouldn't grab him!!! This girl is so fake and I am here for it! So invested in this HS bs
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Stealing someone's hoodie is basically a proposal. Unless it's your sibling's, that's a declaration of war
These are the only two options
Nah, some people just have really good hoodies. There was this guy we all wanted to steal a comfy pink hoodie from but no one would touch him because iugh.
Lol, true XD
Coming from someone who once stole a guy’s hoodie and put it on and didn’t want to take it off, I didn’t just grab it because it looked comfortable, I wanted to mess with him. So yeah, her taking this guy’s hoodie is way more than “oh hey I’m cold can I borrow your hoodie, I’ll give it back” or “that looks cute, can I try it on”. I think we all know that guys supposedly like it when girls wear their hoodies so she obviously knew what she was doing!
It’s not war if you’re sneaky enough. Mine freaked out way more about my taking their 1990s Gameboy and Pokémon cards. And while both could easily kick my ass, they know I move in the shadows and they would regret it 😈
I’m a dick and I’m the oldest so I’ve always stolen from my brothers. As the guinea pig child (the next oldest to me is almost four years younger and I was always the one in trouble…rightly so but resented it) I felt entitled to mess with them. Still do. We’re all grown adults over 30 and they know I can pick locks so…next oldest started bringing a freaking safe over the holidays 😂😂
Haven't watched the full vid yet, but this already feels like some good juicy high school drama about people you've waved to in the hallway once.
Yesss
Hell yeah
Definitely
@NotVille_ girl who tf even is that
@NotVille_tell me your a Npc without telling me your a Npc
we can always trust cooper to wear a sweater that my grandma might wear
But why does he always rock them ?🔥
@@Youdontknowmyname62frfr
@@gort2647 12 Seconds Ago
REAL
That was my grandmas sweater.
What gets me more than anything is how defensive she is. If she genuinely was oblivious and didn’t mean anything by her semi-flirty gestures, she would’ve been more apologetic towards the ex-bestie and less heated.
THIIIIS!!! like literally, when someone genuinely has a wrong impression of you, ESPECIALLY your dang bff, I would personally BEG on my knees for her to understand me and do as much as I can to prove that whatever she thinks happened wasn't the case. Lil miss steal-your-bf's-hoodie is GUILTY!
@@rafeek.9623 No, you should never beg for a friend, if she was your friend she would not think so low of you. As someone i had a friend that left me because she thought i wanted her boyfriend, i never begged, she dm she doesn't want to be friends with me and i just said ok, she was emotionally abusive to me, it hurt me ending but what she did was the best thing for me. She ended her friendship with everyone short after. She was also the girl that said "i prefer guy friends over girls, girls are so much drama" and was jealous of every girl her bf knew, later i learnt he had flirt with most girl in our university so she maybe had her reasons. Maybe i am bias because as someone with low interest in guys i don't get why people accuse women of filtring for doing basic things, she could be flirting but you were very extreme and dramatic. If my friend did anything that Hurt me i wouldn't want them to beg on their knees, that would make me pity you and lose the respect i had for you, act like a normal human.
Hilariously, we would probably be more understanding if she just admitted she liked him because he was hot because...look at him! We would be all like "yeah still not ok that you would betray your friend, but...yeah he's hot so the jealousy is fair enough lol"
But instead she pretends to hold the high ground on this and play dumb and it just backfires on her
I don't agree. As someone who was a victim of massive bullying because a friend believed in some random rumours about me dissing her, over my character. I would not be apologetic if in my true opinion I did nothing wrong and they just ghosted me for no reason. I would 100% be pissed that instead of talking to me, my friend decided to trust third person like that. But then honestly, I would not wear my friend's boyfriend's hoodie, and I would not buy sandwich just for her boyfriend, because I would know full well that her boyfriend is helping me only because I'm his girlfriend's friend.
@@flysmask I'm sorry you were bullied. You make a fair point - nobody should have to apologize if they genuinely did nothing wrong. My issue with this girl is that she doesn't consider that MAYBE some of her behaviors were inappropriate and that the ex-friend has a right to be annoyed.
Reverse pick-pocketing money into a girl's pocket because you feel guilty she's buying you gifts (and not realizing why)is so relatable
I have literally done this when my friend bought me coffee. I just… slipped 5 bucks into his backpack. The coffee was like 3 dollars too :/
@@charliegibson4016 or you could buy him coffee too would show him that you care as well, its how Me and my friend act, i buy coffee and she drives Me , she bought lunch one Time i bought another
give-pocketing
He's not my type but she's pretty obvious in liking him. Posting thirst traps? Waking up to give him a sandwich? Wearing his boring ass hoodie? Come ON
Did you really have to state he's not your type? You can have left that out and your statement would still work. This is very racist coded.
@@lilywong9672how tf is that racist… people dont control their attraction…
@@lilywong9672 I don't like muscular dudes, that's all I meant
@@lilywong9672bro what😂 how was that racist? chronically online
@@lilywong9672literally can't even see his face lmao
They just meant they don't like ripped dudes... neither do I, but he's definitely not ugly.
okay if my friend took my boyfriend’s PLAIN hoodie because it’s “cute” i’d be like- buy your own hoodie???
unless she's homeless, broke and freezing to death there's no reason for my friend having my bf's clothes... for weeks✋😭
@@kazakukog not even a few days. _Weeks_
Seriously wish how much she hyped it up I was expecting some extravagant cute hoodie but nah
Itd make sense if he was trying to be nice and she was underdressed for cold weather. But to keep it is fucking bizarre.
EXACTLYYY THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING!
I love watching different TH-cam commentary channels react to the same drama because it showcases the different personalities of the people I watch very well.
same
Ikr
i dont like it sick of same drama lol
sameni watched abt 4 videos so far on this same thing lmfaoo
@@mariamberidze2052same. i was happy seeing coop posted, but then its the same overhyped drama ive seen plenty of. disappointed
the hoodie thing.
i used to "borrow" my male best friend's hoodie in high school a lot, meaning when we had classes together i'd snatch it from his chair and wouldn't give it back until the end of the day. (yes, i've been cold a lot too, but mostly i just liked the hoodie and how it looked on me).
but the second he even hinted he might have a chance at going out with someone he really liked i immediately stopped taking his hoodie. he was still my best friend, but it felt like the hoodie was now hers to stea- ... err, 'borrow', not mine. she never had to ask me this, because it was a given.
so this joanna 'borrowing' her allegedly best friend's soon-to-be boyfriend's hoodie is screaming sus at the top of its lung volume to me.
facts!!
Yep.
You are so kind !
You were more mature in high school than this grown woman is. Lol.
Pick me up
Seeing the ex-friend's reply first gives the impression that the drama is simply a miscommunication between the group, but once you get more context from the girlfriend, it's evident that the behavior is definitely crossing boundaries. It's such real drama.
how yall excusing the hoodie, yall wearing your friends boyfriends hoodies as a normal daily thing?
@@EveTheRavioloI mean, I once traded hoodies with my friend's boyfriend for a full day, but that was as a joke and there were absolutely zero photoshoots done.
@@EveTheRaviolo Yeah, the other parts I can excuse, I've had people think I'm flirting when I'm just trying to be friendly, but the hoodie sealed it for me. Borrowing a friend's hoodie is fine, keeping it for two weeks posting pics in it because it was "so cute" (it's a black Nike hoodie) is shady.
As someone who doesn't have TikTok, I appreciate you Cooper for keeping us in the loop of internet drama
520 darling. No Twitter or TikTok here either😮
Same but i have the chinese tiktok which is douyin IT IS SO FASCINATING LMAO DRAMA EVERYDAY NONSTOP MEAN GIRLS LMAO
YOUR USERNAME😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@dekiverse troll attempt?
@@kissmyasses. wait i meant og commentor, the one whos name is jinxfan2003 😭
if we can be sure of something then it’s the fact that Cooper will find the hottest tea that feels like high school drama and make a deep dive into it
Yes and I love it so much
LMAO UR SO RIGHT LIKE??? his videos feels like im facetiming a friend
who..?@NotVille_
If they lived together, why couldn't she just give her friend the hoodie as means of returning it? She knew they liked each other - that's how I know she had other intentions.
For anyone who didn't see Joanna's videos with the hoodie, she was literally walking in a store wearing the hoodie in question saying "why would I waste money on a hoodie when I can just use my bf? I'm saving myself 100 bucks"
Wtf
WHAAAAAT!!!?
Where is that video on youtube? I hate to go to tiktok 😂
WAIT WHAT
WHAAAAAT?! 😱 new details keep emerging 😅
I honestly thought the gf was trippin at first, but definitely this is pick-me behavior. She was trying to position herself as a “friend” to the bf to get close to him and make the gf look jealous and crazy. Classic pick-me move. Having him do her a favor, then trying to feed him? Come on 😂
or men and women can have a normal interaction. Pick me is about women who are one of the boys and put other women down. I didn't see that here. Asking someone a favour and give them something as thanks is not flirting if you ask me. Do you have any interactions with the opposite sex with out wanting to date them?
@@anna.owo.it wasnt just that tho. the behavior the ‘friend’ displayed towards the boyfriend was pretty obvious that the girlfriend was able to pick up on it. the ‘friend’ getting food for the ‘boyfriend’ after he helped her is innocent enough but combine it with all the other things she did, it paints a whole different story.
1000%
i would totally feed someone who does something nice for me? i do regularly
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Cooper, you do understand girl flirting. Stealing your sweatshirt is flirting. Wearing it all the time is flirting. Posting pix and videos on social media with cute shirt skirts is thirst trapping! Buying a special sandwich you like after work and wanting you to come over early meaning probs without the girl and girl having to get up extra early to get ready and made up and cute was for sure flirting! And that girl buying you a mocha frap everyday for months wasn't flirting... She was proposing marriage.
Omg whoo
I can’t tell if this a joke or not 😵💫
I am in agreement except for the hoodie part. My sister steals hoodie from her male friends all the time and they are just her friends; BUT I believe the main difference between that and girl flirting is that she never keeps them. I mean it happened a couple of time on accident since both parties forgot to give it back/ that she had it, but she simply washed them and kept them neat in a closet till she saw them again. Keeping AND wearing a stolen hoodie (more so showcasing it) all the time is definitely an act of flirtation and a cheeky one at that :))
Well this is kinda right and wrong. The stealing hoodies isn’t exactly always flirting or meant as a crush thing. My friend steals her male friends hoodies and she a lesbian. Sometimes it genuinely just best friends being best friends. And buying a sandwich you like as a thank you isn’t exactly flirting either depending on the context and situation. It could genuinely be a friendly gesture so it doesn’t apply with every situation. But in this situation she definitely had feelings for her friend boyfriend considering how she doesn’t respect her friend boundaries and does inappropriate stuff without consulting her friend.
i feel sick that she would do that, especially to HER FRIEND. i never want to ever meet "friends" like that ever, im praying to every god.
as an introvert who hasn't really had a friend circle, especially one with interpersonal drama, i think this is so fun bc im living vicariously.
My favorite part of this story is the sandwich for mounting her TV. He didn’t fall for that shit, he took his GF cause he KNEW what this girl was TRYING to do! That’s HUSBAND material right there, girl! No wonder the friend wanted him so bad!
I really don't understand that thing though. He didn't take her girlfriend there, she was already there. The two girls were roommates at that time.
He was supposed to go there before work and she volunteered to get up early to hand the sandwich to him.
The girlfriend must have got up early too so the second girl gave it to her instead of giving to him.
But seriously, if she wanted a chance to be alone with the guy she should have made a better plan, one in which he wasn't in a rush to go to work and his GF wouldn't have been around
@@lapatti before I was married, I would frequently spend the night at my boyfriend’s house, then head to work the next morning without going home before. I assume that’s what was going on in this situation.
Now we finally have the answer to people who asks *"ugh, why is the boyfriend never blamed!?"*. Now i fully understand why joana is alone in the spotlight, bc it really is her fault
REALLL
The sandwich thing honestly seems fine. I express my gratitude or love through cooking for someone (I once tried making an entire meal for people fixing our roof cause I felt bad they were outside for 8+ hours) so I don't feel like making a sandwich for someone who mounted a TV is necessarily bad
This story made me suddenly realize why people watch reality tv. I’ve genuinely never understood till now.
Thank you for your service, Cooper 💕
But this is better because we have Cooper
@@mikag.c yeah I loved this but I’m still not watching reality tv lmfao I just have a lil more empathy now for people who do🥰💅
Reality TV is not that great. 😅. I think someone making fun of it is necessary to enjoy it. Like MST3K
For real and the boy friend is a model😂 I think the gf should have prepared herself for this sort of thing
Except reality TV is scripted or edited heavily to push a narrative, while people posting their own drama on social media is sooo much messier and juicier. 😂
Sounds like she’s mad that his gf came to get the sandwich. How she said “she came with him” it just rubbed me the wrong way
For all we know Kelly probably wanted to come over to see her best friend, but no, Joanna thought it was for ill intentions 😭
she said they were living together at the time
@@jesswueb9505thats even worse😭 so your mad you roommate is with her bf? In her living space? To grab food for him??
right. big weird@@courtneymichelle5746
@@courtneymichelle5746we’re not even sure she is mad bruh
I had a friend sort’ve like this. Any time I told her about a crush she would immediately start flirting with them.
Some people are just so desperate for attention, its sad.
My friend was in a situation like that with someone we're no longer friends with.
She'd tell this other girl about a new guy she's interested in and that other girl would make her show her his profile only to message him later. She'd even send pics.
The loyal ones would tell the first girl about it and that's how she found out this kept happening.
@@spectre9340 Toxic friendships are sometimes worse than toxic relationships :/
That's really sad :( if my friend confided in me about her crush I'd be really excited about it. Unfortunately I've had the same. Can't let certain girls too close to me.
I had a friend like that too. It's what ended our friendship since she just kept seeing us as competition. The worst one was, we had this mutual guy friend, I didn't like him & I had/have my bf at the time and I don't think she liked him either. Anyways, her him and I were just hanging out and she just randomly asked him to rate her and I in scale of being hot. I said, uh no that's weird and not cool. She looked at me, didn't care and asked him again all excited. He dead looked her up and down and said 3 then said but Nora's a high 8 at least. She said nothing, looked like she was going to cry, and walked away. (At this time, me and her were growing apart, I'm pretty sure that was the last time we ever hung out)
@@NoraS-K deserved, on her part to be honest. I guess that shocked her out of it, hopefully.
THE FACT THAT COOPER WAS SPONSORED BY DIPSEA MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
This is brillant. He knows to make business, with the business 😉
It 100% checks out 😂
He’s peak man written by a woman lol
Omg I was literally thinking the exact same thing lol
They know his audience is women hahahaha
I ALMOST defended that Joanna girl.
ALMOST.
Then I saw the boyfriend and was like Yeah, she's a boyfriend thief, or an attempted boyfriend thief.
Points awarded to the girlfriend for going with her guts.
Boyfriend thief 😂
Hellll Nahhh bro even before bf reveal i think she pretty much gave away herself with that sandwich point cuz i was saying that exact same thing as cooper that why wouldn't she get her friend a sandwich too and adding that with the context from gf just made all the sense in the world
Ngl to me the hoodie thing was sketchy too cuz and then after hoodie reveal yeah that is very very sketchy
I heard her side of the story first. I believed her with the "best friends list" thing. Then she started talking about the hoodie and I'm like "wow this girl really believes the lies she's telling right now😂😂😂😂
Why would you defend the girl without seeing the boyfriend though? I'm genuinely curious
@@moonriversou Because some people don't go on looks alone and aren't shallow AF
Ngl I feel bad for Joanna mainly because that need for male validation and attention has her in a chokehold. The addiction to attention and dating is rough and I hope she figures it out.
I had a friend like this. She cheated on her spouse and then was the other woman in multiple relationships. She seemed to think that she was so amazing these guys just couldn’t help themselves instead of the truth she was easy to hide because she was insecure and willing to do anything to get that attention.
@@alexacarrillo4339 It is a drug and an extremely hard one to quit. But like any drug you need to figure out what it is fulfilling in you that you cannot give yourself.
No. There is no validation to hurt your own best friend. I also crave for male attention as well but I would NEVER hurt my best friend for it ever. And there are so many cute boys out there if she actually cared about her best friend she would hold her feelings in and move on and find a different guy but she did not do that. Stop trying to justify this snake behaviour it’s gross.
@@Al3xAckerman my friend constantly tried to get my boyfriends to fall for her. I knew my spouse was a keeper when he rolled his eyes at her attempts to get him interested in her.
@@Al3xAckerman I’m not excusing her behavior by pointing out her addiction. Calling an alcoholic an alcoholic isn’t giving them validation the same thing goes for a dating addict that harms people with her addiction.
The two weeks with the hoodie is insane, and photoshoots? I get buying him a meal as a thanks, but with all this context is insaaaane. Love this type of drama tho
Buying him a sandwich is one thing but telling him to come over to her place early in order to get it and then seemingly getting upset cos the girlfriend was there too....
Yeah that's really suspicious behavior
you calling yourself the bad boy of youtube while wearing a grandma sweater with a collar and what looks like pink pearls is so iconic I love it (Also i love the outfit so much)
agreed but I don’t think they’re pearls? I think it might be one of his vague & goofy merch necklaces
@@emmarosehurtthere is nothing vague or goofy about coopers merch.
@@emmarosehurt I think it’s his “Barbara and Kenneth” merch necklace which is made of pearls and some other stuff
@@emmarosehurt”vague and goofy” girl what
@@emmarosehurt He says it in every vid lol, all his necklaces are made of real pearls and stones like tiger's eye and diorite. You're allowed to think they're goofy but how can a necklace possibly be vague?
the boyfriend is gorgeous so its not unbelievable, she also posted a picture of her in her friends boyfriends hoodie and just underwear the way that would make me SICK
She did what? Yeah then this friend was thirsty af. Good the gf got rid off her.
Omg ewww
BUMP
Bump
Taking a guy's hoodie is girl code for "hes mine." Friends taking your partners jackets is a HUGE backstab and red flag.
YES all girls know this and all girls know that is a boundary you do not cross lol
I would go cold before ever taking a hoodie from my friend’s boyfriend. No matter how innocent it is, I’m actively refusing any offers. That’s the only option if you’re not a homewrecker.
Even as a guy I know this 😭✋
Like girl was going after him HARD
8:14 seals the fact that Cooper knows 'wassup
Not always. I’ve taken my friend’s hoodies before (who are men, I’m a woman) and I’ve never liked them (I’m gay). I did give them back and it didn’t mean anything.
what i love about these situations is it’s a great learning opportunity for my autistic ass to learn WHAT people see as flirting. it’s like a case study and everyone is weighing in with their perceptions and im just over here taking notes of what not to do
Me too honestly
Okay but forreal I was no shit watching the first video dumbfounded like "okay I get the hoodie thing, I only ever wore my ex's hoodie when he was MINE because he was MINE, but everything just sounds totally harmless? Isn't this what friends do to show kindness and gratitude for people existing?"
Because I'm the idiot who would absolutely buy someone food to say 'hey thanks for doing this thing for me' because my Mum taught me that you can barter services with food lol but in the context of cooking for a lifelong friend who mowed our lawn, versus a guy she barely knows and is only in her life because he's the partner of her friend....... It's situational, I think. Like these are vibes you don't cross unless you are already super platonic, super close, and super not going anywhere.
@@Moon0525_ I would buy food as well as a token of my appreciation but I would get for the both of them and only after I asked the friend if she’s okay with it
@@Moon0525_ also! i'm not autistic but as someone who likes doing nice things for friends, i think buying a sandwich for an acquaintance as a thank you is fine, i genuinely dont understand the problem with that tbh, BUT asking the guy to come over alone to her house to pick it up is where it's definitely bad. if it was just bringing a sandwich over when he is already at home with the girlfriend or asking the girlfriend to pass on a sandwich from her or picking up the tab for him when everyone is having a meal together, i think it would be fine.
tbh if someone thinks you're attractive, they'll perceive a lot of silly things as flirting. I'm autistic and have a long-term partner myself, but most of this stuff is just so minor that i wouldn't even make note of it.
What’s so revealing about the sandwich thing is that truly, it IS just a sandwich, BUT, realistically if she valued that friendship with someone who she was also living with at the time, she would’ve mentioned to the friend FIRST that she wanted to get some small gift like a sandwich as a thank you for him putting up a tv in their shared home. Or she could’ve offered for them to all go out and get sandwiches and she pays to thank him. She could’ve done so many other things to show gratitude but her intentions are pretty clear with how she went about it in total disregard to her friend and her relationship.
Ikr, like with my girl friends, I talk to them about their boyfriends instead of the boyfriends directly. I got my bestie a gift and even threw in a little extra for her bf that I never met to show I at least respect his existence lol.
@NotVille_ I did not ask
@NotVille_ ooh burn. yawn
The least I'd do in such a situation is get a sandwich each for both of them. Because agaaain, like she herself mentioned, all three of them were in the room that day helping mount the TV. Why is she expressing gratitude only towards the friend's boyfriend?? It is soooo obvious😭
@@manateemoss4253 she could have gone with him if she had stayed the night at his the night prior possibly :]
I love when the drama isn’t really destroying lives or careers and is just mostly harmless entertainment.
I highly doubt that the stealing boyfriend best friend girl wasn’t bullied by the whole internet. Sure her life might not be destroyed, but she is definitely impacted irl by this whole drama.
The ex stealing best friend life and career might not be destroyed but her mental health might definitely be fucked considering how her name is being dragged through the mud all over the internet and people is definitely destroying her and her self esteem. 💀
@@donthugmeimscared8522 bruh she literally is the one who made it about herself. She WANTED attention. No one ever mentioned her name before she went out there and decided to take the spotlight and make it about herself.
@glowrillaz this is why I listen to Normal Gossip! Highly recommend for non harmful juicy stories
@@EveTheRaviolo That's not the point though. The commenter is contradicting the assumption that this drama didn't harm the people involved in it. It definitely did, as goes with all internet drama. It's not harmless entertainment, whether you believe the person being being harmed deserves it or not doesn't change that fact.
I can't even pay attention bc your background is so extravagant and incredible. I didn't know I could feel this jealousy
so true😭 its mesmerizing
Ikr I’m taking it as inspo for my room
Very tantalizing colors
And did you see the incense in a past video?? I’m fr taking notes for when I have my own place, because wow what a vibe!
His background literally looks like a pintrest pic
I want it
I had a friend like Joana…. I can say yea they love to play the “I did nothing wrong card” a little TOO much. Lol
Same
She's adding him on private stories and stealing hoodies? Yeah she's being suss 🤣🤣
Yeah and posting thirst trap on private story after adding him too
Your jumper is, indeed, VERY cute.
The fact she called a plain black hoodie 'cute' is the most ridiculous part of the whole ordeal.
It's so nice to go back to this sort of drama that doesn't involve the most deprived shit ever and ukulele apologies.
🤣
watching Cooper is like talking to that one grandma who is partially nice, sneaks you money and smells like a funeral home in the best way possible
More like great aunt
HUH
This makes so much sense
It's the sweater and insane amount of pictures on the wall, isn't it? Like you'd be kind of surprised if he didn't have a little crystal bowl full of licorice All Sorts or hard candy in his living room. The candy bowl would also have a lace doily under it and he'd try to be cool about asking you to put your drink on a coaster
The Drew Gooden reference made him more baby girl
😭 Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ❤
I was looking for this comment
@@jacobgloria1873 wait where was it? i didnt see it
It is alleged that the pictures she took in said “cute” hoodie was actually a picture of her in a THONG and his hoodie 👀👀👀
i love when you comeback from school with drama and watch more petty drama later
REALL
me rn lol
Teaaaa what’s the drama from your school?
It definitely feels really really weird for her to not only keep the hoodie, post about the hoodie, but to pull the string out is a weirdly personal thing
Yeah the hoodie is the most damning IMO
The girl in the video, who pulled out the string, is the actual girlfriend. Not Joanna. It was just used as an example
WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED THIS. She straight up had no intention of ever giving it back. I was so triggered when I noticed her doing that in the video. Wtf
Wow 1.1k people did not listen to this man while he was talking about this video. Nice. It’s not Joanna 🗣️
@@thecat11112 I know right? How can you 'hear' the story being told in detail along with literally 'seeing' the actual videos and still get it wrong?? Were like 1.1k folks on hallucinogens while watching this video or something?? Just mind-boggling.
I love how real you are. A lot of people will say these things are being "insecure" and try gaslighting when its clear indication of flirting
I know Cooper would be the friend i can facetime and talk about stupid drama in niche communities and he'd listen so intently and love it. He'd do theatrics during it to like gasp "no!" and get super emotionally invested haha.
I can see that, too 😂🖤
I think you girlies might be a little too parasocial, protect yourselves babes
@@LunaWitcherArt I'm making an observation of his behavior, hun.
@@LunaWitcherArt Same. I'm a very happily married woman. I just think he would be that type of goofy friend. Thanks though 🖤
Yeah, and he'd put the phone way too close to his chin the whole time
Imagine getting comfortable around a man who you talk to for an hour and add them to your close friends and plot twist they're a criminal. 💀💀
they're* 🤓
A tale as old as time
@@LemonDKing Eh, I fixed it.
@NotVille_ I mean everyone has their own opinions.
OH no💀
I still feel like I'm trying to flirt when I use my husband's hoodie *while he's gone* and I've been married for seventeen years. 😂 That is flirtation. You can't tell me otherwise.
lol my mom would wear my dad’s shirts sometimes and they’ve been happily married for 25 years
S/o for not making a 'mounting' joke. No one else has successfully made it through this story with zero mounting jokes. Wholesome creator confirmed.
You’re right. That isn’t a cute hoodie…that’s a cute-boy’s regular-ass hoodie. She’s an annoying pick-me girl who steals as a way to flirt. If she stole your sweatshirt, she’d have a better argument, because that’s a cute sweatshirt. Also, total king behavior by you (as usual) to admit that his abs make every argument she has null and void. She’s flirting with that man. Anyone around that man is probably flirting with him. 😂 It’s still not cool to flirt with your friend’s man.
Cooper is so girl coded he’s the only person I’ve seen talk about this that’s actually giving responses I 100% agree with
Him and Kurtis Conner are both so girl coded only male TH-camrs I will watch 😭
He was 1000% written by a woman fr
@@briguzziLITERALLY
Don't trust "friends" who go straight up to the person you said you like/think is cute. They about to make your thing with that person all about themselves.
Trust friends who encourage you to go talk to that person your damn self. They want to see you succeed on your own two feet.
nah my friend talked to this guy for my other friend and they have been happily dating and she never made it about herself she barely likes him as a person lol. I think it's nice of friends to do that if you're too shy yourself
i don’t think it’s inherently wrong if a friend wants to approach their friend’s crush. what’s important is the motive behind those actions. Are they doing it to hurt their friend? or are they just being a good wingman? intent is important
The "Style this 'Cute' Hoodie with me" is such a hilarious comeback! 😆
I love getting into tea that doesn’t actually impact me or people in my life at all, this is what the internet was made for
😂😂😂 lmao
I remember a story on Reddit a while back where two female best friends are roommates and one has a boyfriend. The single friend is always complaining about the boyfriend spending time with his gf not bc she feels jealous that he’s taking her bestie but because she thinks he should hang out with her solo. Then the couple decided to go on a road trip and the single friend complains and cries until they decide to take her with them and on the road trip she prepared meals and snacks for the road trip for only herself and the best friends boyfriend lol.
Damn wow the audacity of that foolish girl 😂
YIKES
It's one thing if the girl and the guy were best friends first but nah, that's so clearly a way for the roommate to try and flirt with the guy 😭
While the hoodie is DEFINITELY the cincher here, NOT the sandwich... the fact she called him over specifically is suspicious. Like why not just give it to the friend to hand over?
OKAY I'VE CRACKED IT, I felt weird about this one because it felt wrong and right at the same time, that's when I realized its has to do with CULTURE
To Americans, this is normal, they get lunch for their friends dog too
But in Asian culture, you DON'T get/cook food for just anyone, its a testament of love
Idk if you watch Kdrama or Jdrama/shoujo (romance)Anime but giving food to the someone is basically asking them out... Or you just care about them so much e.g Best friend/siblings.
So this is a big NOPE from me, the girl defo wanted her bf!
She can't try the lunch thing in Korea, giving your friends bf lunch??
oh hell nah!
Also leaving her friend out of it, who was also helping her?
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess not true, food is often given in Asia as a thank you. My mother (a doctor) often receives food from her patients after treating them, we also always bring food or another gift to thank hosts whenever we are invited to somebody's house. Also if someone were to decide to get someone they really liked something it's usually more personal and hand-made/home cooked. However, the way she went about it was definitely weird, since all three of them were in her room mounting the TV together it's weird the girlfriend wasnt more included in deciding to get him a thank you gift or if she wanted it to be from herself only then she should have gotten them both a gift since technically both the bf and gf were there to help even if the bf happened to do most of the work. The most normal thing to do would've been to go out together, all 3 of them, after mounting it and then paying for their meal/sandwich as a thankyou
I don’t think she was expecting the gf to be there at all and only handed it to her instead of him because she knew that she was caught and wanted to save face
@@iidentifyasaPSLGoddess to americans its also not normal that your friend who steals your boyfrien's hoodies goes out of her way to get him his favorite sandwish and waked up early to be alone with him when giving it to him.
I wasn’t expecting the BF to be such a smoke show 😂 usually girls fight over losers
Right 😂
Being ugly doesnt mean youre a loser
@@BullFrogFaceyup they are bye 👋. Just like you men call mid women ugly and not a gf material . Cry somewhere else.
I think the close friends thing and the sandwich-in-exchange-for-TV-mounting are negligible. My best friend gives my boyfriend food all the time, ESPECIALLY as an act of gratitude. The hoodie thing is the most suspicious bit of all of this.
COOPER SHE DIDN'T GET A SANDWICH FOR HER FRIEND BECAUSE HER FRIEND ISN'T THE ONE WHO MOUNTED HER TV
Yeah some of this could be fine but I bet she's putting off some sus vibes too that they're picking up on.
Honestly, none of it is THAT sus. If any of this happened with my best friends, I really wouldn't care, because I trust them and I know they're good people.
BUT I know this one girl who needs attention as much as she needs oxygen, and I would be so sus of her if she did all of that.
I think its less about the actions, and more about the ✨️vibe✨️ the person gives off. The ex-BFF must be an untrustworthy person for 3 people to cut her off over this.
It’s more of the context. She told the friends bf to stop by her house before work to come get the sandwich. Didn’t tell her own friend, just told him, so if you don’t find it weird if your friend would be inviting your bf over to pick up food by himself and not mention it to you. That’s weird
What would have upset me would have been her texting him and trying to get him to come over alone early in the morning without even mentioning it to me
the dreaded hoodie flirting technique. we don't just take it cuz we think its cute. we take it cuz it smells like the guy we like and we want it...
THISSSS
100%!!!
Same with taking a guy's hat. We do it so they could try to take it back from us. A playful cat-and-mouse chase
Damn I'm learning something new about women everyday 😂
Good way to mask kleptomania just so a boy won't just punch you in the face
The girlfriend deciding not to fight the girl is a TESTAMENT to her confidence in her own rizz, tbh 😂😂.
Why fight over a man?
@@leegoose8012 You know what, valid 😂😂.
@@leegoose8012 its different when it's a shitty NOT a girl's-girl
@@leegoose8012 maybe not fighting over a man, but fighting her for disrespecting her as a woman and thinking she can get away with it lmao
See this is what I mean when I say “I hate being involved in drama but I love hearing about it” it’s so fun to just hear about ACTUAL drama like this, not people being horrible disgusting creeps and it being called “drama”
Listen, this girl wouldn't have outted herself if she didn't feel attacked. I personally think that she knew what she was doing about the close friends stuff and my friends would respect my thoughts feelings and insecurities revolving around my boyfriend if they were really my friends, because that's what friends do. I had a girl play the long con to get at my man and get inside his head so much that she dog piled on me when his friends made fun of my religion and didn't realize that that's not cool, you won't even back me up in a conversation? My bf even told them to lay off and she then got nervous. DND sessions before this, she asked me about how sex was like and how sex with my bf was like and I'm like wtf? She doesn't show up after making fun of me and then we find out that her BFF died and she flew to her funeral to SLEEP WITH HER DEAD FRIENDS HUSBAND!! THE WIDOWER!! she made him move out here and hasn't been texting my bf unless she posts on her story that she's having relationship issues. Sus ppl are always sus and your sweater is very cute love you cooper 😍 paint your nails teal and maroon tis the season 💕
girl im begging you reqrite w appropriate punctuation so i can understand the story bC IT SOUNDS JUICY
@@erenyeagar4686 copy and paste into a reader
👁👄👁 whoa
The widower!? I audibly laughed at that oh my gosh
YOU JUST DELIVERED THE STEAMIEST TEA and continued like it was NOTHING😮
20:23 Okay, the fact that Cooper snuck quarters into a girl's pockets because she kept buying him frappes is so adorable and wholesome. 😆
My friend has done this for me before, thought I’d found a fiver that I’d forgotten about and found out 6 months later that it was my friend secretly paying me back for something 🥹
I do find it weird how so many ppl were willing to go to a random dudes apartment that they just meet. As a woman I would not be comfortable enough to trust that even if the dude seemed chill and my friend liked him.
Maybe because they were in a group, so not just the 2 girls.
Halo effect: if someone is attractive you’re more likely to trust them/think good of them
they were in a big group? what did you think was going to happen?
Samse
@@that.neurodivergentuntrue
For me.
That's very superficial.
I have no idea why I am so entertained by this. I'm a grown ass man... a gen X'er at that. I have a life... I'm a musician, a producer, a film soundtrack composer. I don't even have time for this; yet here I am, glued to my phone watching the play by play about the damn sandwich and hoodie. Kudos bro... Kudos indeed.
the hoodie thing is def weird (sharing clothing items is very intimate to me unless its like a raincoat or smth). the sandwich thing for me is pretty normal EXCEPT the part where she invited the boy to her house to retrieve the sandwich. I mean to me, if Im gonna give someone a sandwich as a thankyou, I would probably give it on the spot after he mounted the TV, OR go to his place to give it to him, because again, its a thank you gesture. im not gonna let u go through the trouble of going to my house if im actually grateful and saying thank you! thats bad manners, unless i have ulterior motives to get you to my house alone!!! this is fun juicy drama tho I agree 😂😂
💯💯💯
yeah no the house part was weird. I've never gotten anyone a gift and then been like "oh but you have to come to me to get it"
Sammeeeeee!! Its the" come get it next day before you leave for work thingy"and not letting her friend(gf) give it to him instead or letting her know about it since they were roommates.
Fr fr fr exactly 🤌🏽
lol she posted a picture in HIS hoodie with a THONG on..😭 it’s just weird tho.
noooooo the thirst
Omg 😂😂😂
It’s literally so disgusting his hoody doesn’t need to touch her std stained panties
Yep, and added him to her private story 👀
I’m actually so relieved the boyfriend is steamy loaded baked potato cuz so many times you see drama like this and the guy is a lone floor tater tot
Omfg I love you 🤣
Thanks for the laugh
lol you are soooo right. I was expecting to see the same ole crusty dusty bf and then bam-he was serious business right there. I get it. This warrants a good cat fight here lol
Lone floor tater tot 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0:04 im confused?😭
He watches his videos and is quite a big fan of him
as an autistic person i am so very confused by the tone dissection but i am thoroughly enjoying coopers reactions
I’m lost with that as well. Sounds like a regular tone someone would have explaining themselves 😅
Def feels like I’m missing something
Also autistic so just guessing here:
She seems to have a kind of passive-aggressive and incredulous tone. Like, she is defending herself as if it should be obvious, even though what she's saying is def sketchy on paper. It's such a subtle tone as well cause she's trying to manipulate the info publicly to make the other girl seem crazy and controlling. I think the context makes it stand out further, for me.
@@mossysageThis is perfectly summed up
I'm not autistic but I was also confused because I would've believed everything she said from that tone only 😂
I'm autistic, I'll try to explain. she's using her tone and flippant attitude to manipulate people into believing her. basically what happened was you were lied to...by a pretty good liar. she's using her tone and dismissive attitude to manipulate ppl into thinking "she wasn't trying to flirt, she's just nice. she actually doesn't care at all" all while she hides her deception (like conveniently leaving out the part where she said she thought the bf was hot). anyways, if it was genuinely an expression of gratitude, she would've gotten her friend one too. since she said her friend also helped mount the tv. it's also very telling she said in another vid that the gf "should've just talked to her and told her to stop". when people repeated disrespect you and cross boundaries, you don't need to hash things out if you don't want to. if the gf had tried to talk it out, Joanne would've acted exactly like she did in her vid, except in that case, if she were to act EXACTLY like she did in that vid to her friend, she'd be gaslighting her friend and telling her that her intuition is wrong when it's not
Big glaring question left answered, did she give the hoodie back to the boy or the girlfriend? Girl's girl who didn't have interest would likely give it to the girl bc you see her more and know her better.
If she gave him the hoodie back but gave the girl the "special sandwich" that's passive aggressive in girl world.
@lyvphoenix TRUE, i used to borrow my *ex* best friends things all the time, but i lived closer to his *ex* gf and id see her before him in the day so if he left shit in my car id give it to her because i saw her first (im still friends with her and him just not as close since school ended)
Tbh since they lived together and that’s when the boyfriend mounted TV and the girl wanted to show gratitude with a sandwich seems fine really, as a “thank you” gesture I’d do the same, plus telling him to come over to THEIR house where both of them were living together with the girlfriend it seems fine, it’s not like she told him to come over to hers. But the whole hoodie situation is wilddddd and how can you claim someone else’s boyfriends hoodie like that is crazy lol I’d go nuts just over this
Since they live together, I don’t get why she wouldn’t just have the girlfriend take him the sandwich 💀 like she was seeing him that day anyway.
some people just steal clothes, if she has a history of doing I would probably not live with her.
@@anna.owo. Except she posted about the hoodie. Knowing damn well it was her friend's bf hoodie. A basic ass hoodie that she calls "cute"
@@no.6377 i think this is a band thing, it is a nike hoddie, she said she liked brands even if her friend didn't know that doesn't mean she lied. I personally don't get people buy supreme, nike etc and flex the brand.
18:57 Her pulling HIS hoodie string out… * eye twitch* 😫
That was the girlfriend but yeah
@@ninar9664 Oh! I thought that was the girlfriend’s “friend”. 🤷♀️
@@ashleyjones850 no it was the girlfriend saying “yeah this is the cute hoodie, it’s just Nike”
Lmfao that sweater stealing girl, trying to defend herself only to poke more holes in the story… Only further incriminating herself. Never trust people like this. I see why she got cut off. Snakes like her won’t tell you they’re snakes.
Exactly, she is sus af, like she wanted her friends bf bad. Real bad, everything she did was a red flag.
Honestly even the fact that it sounds like it was her birthday, the friend (the actual gf) thought dude was cute and she ran up and outed her… it reminds me of in middle school when the pick me girls would be like “I’ll talk to him for you”
Then would run up like “omg Jessica likes you Sam, isn’t that crazyyy?!?!? Do you even like her”
And if they said no they’d flirt with them and make fun of their friend for daring to have a crush, but if they said yeah then they’d start a weird competition with the girl because “I set you guys up!”
@@laurenc4138well someone's projecting
@@ootlek6057 nah, that type is practically a trope. the second they hear you like a guy they try to get him. sometimes they just want to see if they can get your guy to cheat. someone else's man being attracted to her means she has worth or something. it's very strange. pick-me's basically. they're a branch of pick-me's. it comes from very low self-esteem and misogyny.
@@mischr13oh i've dealt with those types of girls before so I know what you're talking about, I'm just saying there's been no information that suggests that that's how the hoodie girl approached the guy. Not defending her, just saying it sounds like extrapolation/projection to me lol
Johanna is so me convincing myself that I don’t have a crush on a boy because liking boys is gross and embarrassing and not something I would ever do.
lmfao i love this comment ❤
She's actually better than me cuz I just pretend guys I like don't exist for the most part. And then if they talk to me I melt and can't speak properly. Cuz boys are so gross. 😝😝😭😂🤣
@@no.6377 no yeah I’m really too cool and interesting to talk to boys 🙄but if I did steal a guys hoodie for two weeks and post it on instagram it’s bc I’m just 💕✨that kind of girl 💕✨and like that with everyone 🙄💅
Same here
This is so funny because it’s so innocent. I feel like the internet is just collectively gossiping about our classmates or something. This has peak high school drama energy and I LOVE IT.
i literally LOVE your room so much. its super amazingly decorated and the paintings and furniture are so pretty 😭🫶
what would be even funnier and more juicy is if joanna actually had no ties to the op, she just made that video in response for funsies and now everyone is involved in drama that was never hers to begin with
All the girl had to do was not respond. She just made herself look worse by responding
Don’t think it’s weird at all to buy lunch for someone that does you a solid like mounting a tv. The hoodie tho 👀 👀.
It isn't weird to buy lunch yes, but it's just the extra steps she did to buy said lunch. She volunteered to wake up extra early to get him lunch for work. That's like girlfriend level effort. So that made me sideeye Joanna.
@@Nkunji yeah I hadn’t heard that part when I left this comment. I also don’t understand this…. Did she buy the sandwich at midnight? Why did giving someone a sandwich involve waking up early??
@@tvmayer i think she did got it at night at her way from her job. And wanted him to get it early because they probably would not meet later, he was going to come for his gf, the girls were roommates. I would not wake up for him, i only wake up early for my bestie but i get if you want to give him something you got, i just wouldn't.
@@anna.owo. Exactly, why not just give it to the girlfriend to give him the lunch. Or wait till he comes over to the apartment to give him the lunch. Why volunteer to wake up super early. Very weird.
@@Nkunji agreed. Buying lunch is within bound, going way out of your way to run into the person to give them something (including food) is very strange. She could have just gone with a gift card or a $15 Venmo. 🤔🤔🤔
10:58 why would you get someone a sandwich as a thank you that they have to pick up? Bad thank you in my opinion.
“style this cute hoodie with me✨” makes me nauseous
that was the gf not Joanna
You putting quarters in the girls backpack is such a babygirl move, I adore it. You are so precious coop!
Kinda seems like a person that’s a “ppl pleaser” that tried to so hard that it backfired. Idk if anyone knows what I mean by that but to me, that’s what it feels like. She tried so hard with her friend by making her own birthday about her friend hooking up and tried to be so nice to the new guy her friend likes that it comes off as boundary-less.
That being said, the other woman is more in the right. This woman seems to not know how to respect boundaries, whether that’s purposeful or not, idk.
Yea, I thought the same thing while watching it unravel
As a therapist, I'd diagnose attachment trauma which can result in a lot of the things I'm seeing here--dismissive, condescending, invalidating ("gaslighting") behavior, acting in a way that's untrustworthy, boundary-less, attention-seeking, and/or people pleasing behavior. 😂😂
ppl r reaching so hard to make joana out to b a viscous, villain bestfriend and its irking me sm. yal hav to calm tf down its not that deep. And for the gf to post abt this a YEAR later is so low n attention seeking. all the things joana did were w reason, except the excuse being the hoodie is "rlly cute" cant back her up on that one tbh. ppl love to pin girls against eachother over a boy🤢
@@nellieshoalsAs someone studying and training to become a therapist, I definitely wouldnt diagnose anything here. You dont even know any of these people, all you did was listen to some drama on the internet. Idk, I take the word diagnosis seriously.
@@nellieshoalsI don’t think you should be diagnosing anyone just from a few clips online. I certainly hope you AREN’T a therapist bc this kinda shit is icky.
I love how Cooper just found a random friends group’s drama and made a whole video on it
20:30 I know his point is that he was clueless but thats adorable
I watch queerkiwi, Annamarie, chad chad, flim cooper, not even Emily, and funky frog bait mostly and they have similar opinions but it feels different because they all have very different styles of comitary so I don’t mind them useing the same drama lol
I watch most of them too :0
Also FunkyFrogBait!
I WATCH ALL OF THEM ARE WE TWINS
@@Chib_Lee WE ALL TWINS HERE
It's such a red flag that she intentionally conflates 'attention trap' (which has nothing to do with gender or even attraction, and can be anything you post to bait for attention, like vaguely but repeatedly complaining about how 'you're so sad and no one talks to you' for example; basically fishing for supply) with thirst trap (which is specifically to get sexual attention/praise from the gender/s you like). The way she dodges all these accusations by not answering or by intentionally sidestepping/debating something else (like defending a thirst trap rather than just saying 'i don't post attention traps') made me not believe a gd thing she says. I've known too many manipulators to not recognize that bs lol
Wasn’t the second girl (OG post) the first one to call it “attention trap” or am I just confused?
@@SeaStarTeano, you’re right.
after seeing the bf … i get it, that plain ass hoodie suddenly became the cutest hoodie i have ever seen
I enjoy this drama. No one is getting hurt in a major way; no one wins or loses majorly. Everyone involved consented to being involved and having their stuff aired out on the public stage. In a way it's kind of wholesome compared to what you typically hear nowadays.
It's like we're in a High School lunchroom and the whole table has gone silent because we're eavesdropping on what's playing out at the table next to us. (but better because it's without the awkwardness of actually being in High School)
Agreed, and a fascinating case study into human behavior
The minute a girl makes a video after someone talks about them without mentioning them they're immediately guilty because no one knew who she was plus her boyfriend looks like a model
THE DREW GOODEN REFERENCE AT 6:32
it ony a movie 🥺
yesss!!!
“it ony a movie” is so fucking niche i love u and immediately subscribed
The sandwich detail became important to me. Before work is such a specific time, specifically for him to be alone. Realistically if he’s going to work he should be alone on his way to work. To invite him to get it before work implies that she wanted him to come alone. Of which I feel like he told his girlfriend about this and she felt that exact same way. Making the sandwich the important detail she made it out to be because it’s what planted the seeds of mistrust.
EDIT: yea sorry didn’t finish the video but this point was made kind of
the couple probably were already aware of the flirting and actively pointing out her little attempts at it lmao I would do the same with my bf, like "did u see the shit she posted today"
The sandwich thing isn't incriminating itself, but adding the hoodie story into the mix definitely makes the view of the "innocent" action seem less innocent tbh.
As soon as she admitted to taking and posting the supposed “cute” jacket, I immediately was like yeah you would’ve been on the ground had it been anyone else. lol
4:16 this is the point where I subscribed because he understands the importance of “it’s my birthday” energy 🤣🙌🏾!
This is a great example of how the smallest things can be enormous if you have a certain mindset.
The term you’re referring to is the “Streisand Effect”, when someone takes a piece of media that is obscure and makes a big deal out of it, thus bringing more attention to it than would have happened had they simply stayed quiet on the matter 😚
it actually means that you try to hide an oopsie, but doing so blows it up. Look up the actress Streissand or the incident where Beyonce tried to remove unappealing Photos from a Website- making it post those Photos AGAIN saying "so and so many photos Beyonce tries to hide" or smth like that :D
She removed the string from the hoodie!!!! You know that is impossible to get that string back in the hood!!!! The horror! LOL! Great commentary! Yes! You are a stand-up boyfriend. You are so good! LOL!
not only did she keep it for weeks but she removed the string?😩 why????
@penguuwn the girlfriend removed it in the video
the way she said “story” at 8:14 makes me wanna throw my phone out the window