Or if you go with gaijin goomba's theory it's a spiritual sequel. Goomba goes into more detail using princess kaguya and other cultural aspects to make a timeline. It's a good video if you want to check it out.
Greg Sanders there is actually a Sun Goddess in Japanese myths. She was married to the Moon God but due to him murdering some other gods, she left him.
I'd like to think that the sisters are born out of magic, just like how the moon king is. The moon king is most likely Tsukuyomi who is the moon God in Shintoism. He was born from the right eye of Izanagi, the creator which is probably why eyes were such a great deal in this movie. I also don't think there would be any reason to bring the moon king and the sun queen together because the sun queen would be his sister, Amaterasu. The two are in a feud due to Tsukuyomi killing Uke Mochi, the goddess of food, due to the fact that he didn't like how she created food, such as fish and rice fields. It was really shallow of him to do that so the two got into a feud and that's why night and day could never be together. If the movie is based off these myths then I'm pretty sure Tsukuyomi either birthed them from stars or had a good time with a goddess. The heavy use of sun motifs could be because Amaterasu is a highly regarded goddess. I suggest you read up on cultural aspects when coming up with theories about the family tree of Kubo because mythology is usually straightforward and doesn't need much thinking about. Lastly, it isn't a guitar. It's a shamisen. Keep up the good work!
Well it must have been a shock to find out all the food from the goddess was created via vomiting out the food, which was kept a secret so I'm guessing he got mad because of that and that's why he killed her.
Yes, I think this is the most likely theory. I also think that the reason Kubo can use magic is because of his heritage, as his mother is the daughter of the Moon King. Theorizor said the instrument is a powerful object, but remember, in the movie, the “monkey” said that it was Kubo that was powerful.
Interesting. So basically the older lady from the beginning is the Sun Queen so to say? I think she knows a lot more then she says. Also did you ever realize that the mom goes into a sort of trance like state when it’s daylight? Maybe she is the moon queen some how? Or is the heirs ether way the strongest of the family, obviously. The grandfather (moon king) wanted her daughter back because as the sisters said “were stronger together” so maybe he wasn’t after just kubos eye but kubo himself because he is a product of both moon and sun being more powerful then himself and his 3 daughters combined. In the beginning kubos mother says herself & the beetle were “rivals” so to speak almost forbidden, maybe because they were literally opposite. Moon & sun. Or maybe you said all of this already in the video and I was to excited to pay attention to detail lol. I feel like this particular theory is easy to over think just because all of the information is just at our fingertips. It is a good one though. Nice video!
Your onto something and I can confirm because Husband (Shannon Tindle) created film and story. It’s partly inspired by my childhood. My mother had dementia at young age and suffered from the sun downers phenomenon. Since she’s a Moon princess her power and mind work clearly at night and suffers in the daylight hours. It’s fun that folks put so much thought into this film!!! All the Sun stuff is not there. This was all 4 years ago so I’m sure everyone has moved onto new mysteries! Thanks for supporting the film!
I'm pretty sure it was explained that kubo's mother was the sister that ran away from the Moon King and I'm pretty sure the premise of the movie was the Sun King wanted to steal his grandson away from his parents by taking his eyes.
Then that does confirm it would have to be Hanzo's mother instead of the Moon King's wife; good thing too, my upcoming Laika universe theory requires that wife space to be open for the Beldam
Or Also consider this cup of Tea : She refers to her "dead husband" only metaphorically speaking - to be dead - and she mentions she cant get him to shut up, more likely a nod to his nature and personality. When the villagers visit the grave sight to see their deceased loved ones, she's the *only* one who doesnt get hers shown on screen, we dont see her visiting her husband, and we dont get to see his spirit - So it's more likely, that she could indeed be referring to the Moon King, as her husband, who she VERY much is aware is still alive, but just sends a lantern out as a nod to her once beloved relationship that is now ruined by him an his need for more power and family Vendettas, and in her metaphoric means- he's technically dead, the Husband she once knew
There's a legend about Ameterasu (the japanese sun goddess) going and hiding in a cave and denying the world her light and warmth. I find this to be a very similar way that Kubo's mother hides them away in a cave.
This makes sense especially with the symbolism Lakia seems to take inspiration from mythology in this film; The Greek God Apollo is a God of light and music (especially fond on the lyre a harp thing) which in this case is Kubo's three stringed instrument. Also the Egyptian god Ra is a sun god who has sacred symbols including a scarab beetle Just some food for thought or a possible add on to the theory.
Your theory actually aligns with quite a bit of Eastern philosophy (balance) and with Japanese folklore (Sun Goddess and Moon God). Which are very appropriate here.
But the guitAr as you said (shamisen) doesn’t give Kubo powers and technically isn’t a weapon ... Kubo already has powers since he’s part god or whatever the moon king is ... he uses the instrument to focus and channel his powers
The “poetic baby” comment made me laugh! Also I can’t verify where I’ve heard this from but I feel as though beetles are known to be more of a sin symbol throughout certain cultures! This would support the fact that Hanzo is the son of the sun queen and that when trying to preserve his life she choose a symbol of him.
In the ancient Egypt the scarab, wich looks like Hanso/Beetle, was a symbol of resurrection and the rise of the sun. So aconnection between Hanso and the sun is indeed possible.
I believe that the sisters and father are meant to be representative and weren’t made biologically. Raiden- the man in the moon, he’s supposed to represent the moon itself and the pristine glow and loneliness it makes. Mother/monkey- the north star, truly shins the brightest in the night sky and how it is seen as a good thing helping people find true north and as a sort of wishing well. Brings fortune The sisters- Castor/Pollux of Gemini, I believe them to be a binary star system that work in unison. In their mythology it details how they became immortal.
This is such a lovely theory! However, there is a video on the channel Gaijin Goomba that goes into an analysis of the origins of the characters and theorizes on a correlation with an actual Japanese story about a moon princess
Don't know if anyone mentioned it, but I will. In the scene when Kubo is out too late and his aunts find him and his mother comes to fight them. The scene is short but as Kubo's is flown away from his mother, you see her and her sisters unleash their full power. The sisters magic is blue similar to the Moon and matches their Fathers blue light. But, Kubo's mother her magic is a bright gold compared to the sisters. Even Kubo's magic is gold. If the theory is true that the Moon King married and produced offspring with the Sun Queen, it would make sense. Especially if the queen is more powerful than the king. The sisters in film do say that Kubo's mother was strong and the most powerful of the three, probably inheriting more of their mother's power while the twins got their father's powers. If this is true, I see the dynamic of the Moon king and Sun queen similar to that of Ponyos parents. Ponyos father is powerful and I think a wizard who helps keep the ocean in balance, but not as powerful as his wife Ponyos mother who is a goddess.
Idea: the "elderly lady" wanted to create a world for the dead but accidentally created a series of pocket dimension all around the world and the rast is history
I was wondering about this but do you think the villagers are just nice to the seemingly family-less street grandma because they know who she is? I know Japan is supposed to be based in politeness and reverence for elders but maybe if they remind a human-bound spirit of their origins they will die or lose some mysticism? After the Moon King becomes human-bound no one in the village goes to tell him who he is. They just go along with him being a new addition to the village. So if the same thing had happened to the Sun goddess, maybe like you suggested she used her power to save Kubo's parents essences should they die in the future and create the "Life Shamisen". She ends up in the village not know who she is but the villagers know and make sure she is alright. Kubo doesn't interact with anyone but her despite all of the children in the village like it is on purpose. idk. I'll think about it more but glad to see you were able to get back to this one
@@ThePoetUnderTheFall Hmm well if they follow along with the original he was still married to his sister Amaterasu, anyway but it was still a killing that caused Amaterasu to separate from him completely. And in the movie the nice grandma character didn't hang around outside after dark just like Kubo.
So instead of killing the other goddess and causing the separation it was his adament stance against Kubo's mom and dad. they were on the outs, on their definition of "love", at that point and the slaughter of killing Hanzo (and all of his men it seems) made it final. Amaterasu became human trying to place Hanzo in the beetle, separated the aware and alert parts of mom's spirit into the monkey figures, and created the shamisen.
Also, could give Studio Ghibli's Princess Kaguya(based on a similar(or is it the same?) Japanese myth/fairytale ) a watch. Seems like there's a lot of potential myth/folklore/fairytale links between moon princesses
It has a lot of ties into the princess kaguya myth of Japanese. Ledgend also anothere point i noticed is the mothere was just like her from the legends she could be like amatarasu from the myths its shows in how she is very unresponsive during the day its just a thought though
The movie was based of a Japanese Myth which is why the characters are wearing Kimonos also the setting of the film has a more Asian theme going on. I think you're right about the myth being about Princess Kaguya.
Two quick things. First) This is just meant as an FYI, but it isn't a guitar, it's a Samisen/Shamisen (not sure on the spelling), a trditional Japanese String Instrument. Second) To my understanding, it's not the instrument itself that holds the power, but Kubo and his mother, and the instrument is simply a conduit for the power. Remember that, near the beginning of the movie, Kubo's Mother has a nightmare and the paper starts moving on its own. And we've seen on a few other occasions that Kubo's mother is capable of using her power with out playing the instrument. Kubo's likely only needs the instrument due to being (as far as we're aware due to what's said in the movie) Half-Mortal.
Remember how you said how death works in corpse bride and paranorman? Well, in coraline the 3 ghost kids died by getting their eyes gouged out, and had there souls stolen, and they died needing their eyes back, needing to escape, and needing to go back to their mothers. They died suddenly and with unfinished business and couldn't move on, they stayed TRAPPED ad ghosts and when coraline got their eyes back, helped them escape, and let them go see their mothers, they could finally move on to heaven with their souls set free as Angels! Just like what happens in corpse bride an paranorman!
Normally your theories are nuts and completely out there that's why I love them so much not to mention your delivery of information is simply hilarious 😂 but this theory actually kinda makes sense
Wait, so this might be a stretch, and it comes like a year late, but if we’re going to connect the Laika universe, consider this: in Coraline, she seems safe in her world during the day, and the nefarious events of the story all take place in the evening. If we’re considering the Beldam to be some sort of Moon Queen, could that explain why she doesn’t attack during the day and relies on the Cat’s powers/the Otherworld’s powers to even spy on Coraline? And/or, if Kubo is descended from the sun and moon and thus has a special protection against darkness, could Coraline be one of his descendants, which explains why Coraline of all the four children the Beldam attacked was able to defeat her?
Good theory but then Kubo was based off a Japanese Myth , so it wouldn't really make sense for Kubo and Coraline to be related. And if they were related, Coraline would have to be Half Japanese which is impossible because in the book Coraline was an American girl.
@@robertatonar4782 doesn’t have to be half. Just part. Just like how a ton of Asian men are descendants of ghengis khan (supposedly). It just depends on how many kids Kubo has, really.
@@esppupsnkits4560 True but then again the film's are based of two completely different stories which have no relation to each other whatsoever. And if Coraline was Part Japanese there should be easter eggs in the movie to hint the audience. Personally, I don't really like the idea of connecting films from the same production companies together. The timeline gets muddled up and there's usually poor character development.
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broooooo I always imagined that there could have been a sun king, but that Kameyo is the sun queen? wow, that made my mind explode. although it doesn't sound so crazy ... Ancient cultures love the idea of duality XD, it occurs to me that, as you mentioned, Raiden (moon king) and the sun queen could have a relationship (the three sisters being born) and that have been confronted for many reasons (perhaps the ambition of the moon king for wanting more power than is due to him) ending in the sacrifice of the sun queen to protect humans. that would explain the hatred and disgust that the moon king has to the beings of the earth. /// And that I still haven't made any comments about what the sun queen might have been Hanzo's mother, oh boy ~~~ it's just my imagination going crazy, but how great that in 2019 someone remembers this beautiful movie. a part two of coraline? we need a kubo prequel!!
I noticed something quite odd at 4:36. If you look in beetween the two bug trees, you can see what seems to be a blue, transparent body. What if THIS is the moon queen, seeing what happend after her husband's defeat. Idk just a small theory.
Could you do this theory in the Lego Batman movie Superman said that he put zod in the phantom zone but when joker goes in the phantom zone he is not there so why did superman lie
I always thought that this being a film rooted and inspired by Japanese folklore, that the “sun goddess” was Amaterasu, the actual sun goddess in Shinto mythology, and “the moon king” was Tsukuyomi.
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This is gunna sound super weird but are you ok? Haven't seen much of your content and I REALLY REALLY enjoy listening to your theories on the stuff you talk about :) Just a random fan checking in on you
LAIKA CINEMATIC UNIVERSE TIMELINE: Kubo and the two strings- between 1185 and 1600. Boxtrolls- between 1837 and 1901 Missing link- 1886 Corpse bride- late 1800s Coraline- 2009 Paranorman- 2012
This should tie in with the Mort Theory, as you said that in DreamWorks the moon is symbolizing unification of the Sky Gods, one of the Sky Gods is probably this Moon King who should be referred to as a God, and the fact that intelligent animals are involved in this film makes me rethink that the Twisted Sisters are suppressing Hanzo in his spiritual Kabuto beetle avatar.
Ok, wanted to make a quick SpongeBob theory unrelated to this video. It's a good video, honestly. So, all the characters in Spongebob seem to mirror Spongebob in a way. By "mirror", I mean copy his intense stupidity and ignorant bliss. Patrick, his so-called "best friend" is in a state of complete mental shutdown, Sandy dumbs herself down to be a sort of "guide" or "mentor" to him, and Squidward's insanity, his moments of complete insanity have him do what? Laugh like a madman and break down into idiocy. Ignorant bliss seems to be the defining trait of insanity in this show, and what does that say when it's main character embodies that trait? We've seen Spongebob do things a normal human would do. He does karate(an art requiring extreme muscle control and spacial awareness), he has an aptitude for precise fishing, and in the episode "Squidtastic Voyage", he uses a variation of the Heimlich Maneuver to get a clarinet out of Squidward's throat. Even though by the show's definition, he's a walking mess of insanity, he's still competent, unlike Patrick. In a sense, if Spongebob were truly insane, he would be like one of the dumber versions of Patrick. But he isn't. How could one intelligent side and one blissful side exist in conjunction, without a multiple personality set like Patrick has? If one doesn't exist in the first place. What if the reason for Patrick's "snap" was because of Spongebob? The torment of a purposely stupid idiot driving him over the edge? Maybe that's why Squidward avoids Spongebob, in most cases. Out of fear for his own sanity.
My theory is that the Moon king is Tsukuyomi the moon god in shintoism. And his wife was Amatarasu the goddess of the sun. And the sisters are their children. In Shinto mythology their is a story about how Amatarasu left her huzbend after Tsukuyomi killed a lesser god. And this is why we don’t see Amatarasu in the movie. This is also backed up by the fact that Kubos mom and the sisters look similar to classic depictions of Amatarasu.
I remember watching kubo and the two strings when I was younger and all I can remember is that, the sisters traumatised me and that it encouraged me to learn chopsticks
I don't think the old woman is Hanso mother but mother of kubos mother the moon family as she is herself is wearing blue. As she knows kubo more than he knows himself. What if the old woman was transformed like the moon king. Is it possible that Hanso mother or could be cursed just like the beldam.
U should really do a GoT theory, seeing as it's nearly over u could do what comes next, or some kind of backstory thing, idk, but it'd just be a cool theory to do
The elderly woman could very well be a human incarnation of the goddess Amaterasu and the grandfather of course is Tsukuyomi AKA the moon king. The fact he is depicted as old instead of a young man and she also is very old and acts as Kubo's surrogate grandmother is very interesting. And if this theory is correct, it spins the Kojiki right on its head as Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi were brother and sister and were not romantically involved and had children together whatsoever. But I thought this too watching this movie of the grandmotherly lady being a possible incarnation of the sun goddess herself. The gods of ancient times had many incarnations especially in Hinduism so I wouldn't put it past the writers in developing the character as so without blatantly saying it in the film. I'd never have drawn correlations to Coraline and Kubo. This is pretty cool. Hoping we get a 2nd film of each!💜😁
I know i m pretty late for this but in the beginning when kubo first told his story n the marketplace, he said that hanzo fought against a filthy spider controlled by the moon king.I don t think that this is exactly OUT of coraline but it felt like a hint to the spider , beldam, and the moon king , spirit of the whole other world, that was kinda interesting to me
There is a Laika short movie called Moongirl I think moon craze starts with that movie. Would love a Laika complete theory or a video about DreamWorks!
Kubo was a good movie. The sisters were scary af
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The sisters wasn't scary at least not to me but I do agree with you being it a good movie
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Kubo is based off the story of Princess Kaguya. The lost sister is Kubo’s mom. The instrument is a Shamisen not a guitar.
Or if you go with gaijin goomba's theory it's a spiritual sequel. Goomba goes into more detail using princess kaguya and other cultural aspects to make a timeline. It's a good video if you want to check it out.
Thank you. I was looking for this comment.
I thought it was a sitar
Greg Sanders there is actually a Sun Goddess in Japanese myths. She was married to the Moon God but due to him murdering some other gods, she left him.
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Wait, Amaterasu married Tsukuyomi? Those are the "mainstream" sun and moon deities, but I assumed they were siblings, not married.
I'd like to think that the sisters are born out of magic, just like how the moon king is. The moon king is most likely Tsukuyomi who is the moon God in Shintoism. He was born from the right eye of Izanagi, the creator which is probably why eyes were such a great deal in this movie. I also don't think there would be any reason to bring the moon king and the sun queen together because the sun queen would be his sister, Amaterasu. The two are in a feud due to Tsukuyomi killing Uke Mochi, the goddess of food, due to the fact that he didn't like how she created food, such as fish and rice fields. It was really shallow of him to do that so the two got into a feud and that's why night and day could never be together.
If the movie is based off these myths then I'm pretty sure Tsukuyomi either birthed them from stars or had a good time with a goddess. The heavy use of sun motifs could be because Amaterasu is a highly regarded goddess.
I suggest you read up on cultural aspects when coming up with theories about the family tree of Kubo because mythology is usually straightforward and doesn't need much thinking about.
Lastly, it isn't a guitar. It's a shamisen.
Keep up the good work!
Well it must have been a shock to find out all the food from the goddess was created via vomiting out the food, which was kept a secret so I'm guessing he got mad because of that and that's why he killed her.
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AGO271 JAP yes! I love that theory and wondered if that's who the Moon King was, too. It was a little annoying when he called it a guitar.
Yes, I think this is the most likely theory. I also think that the reason Kubo can use magic is because of his heritage, as his mother is the daughter of the Moon King. Theorizor said the instrument is a powerful object, but remember, in the movie, the “monkey” said that it was Kubo that was powerful.
@@TrashPandaRaider666 I agree. Kubo definitely has the magic with the shamisen being the catalyst to enhance those powers.
I love how The Theorizer’s true colors have really leaked out over the years ;u; it gives the videos so much more character and I love it.
Kubo is a blessing, I swear.
Also, doesn't the grandma remind you of Mulan's? It s O wOrKs
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Interesting. So basically the older lady from the beginning is the Sun Queen so to say? I think she knows a lot more then she says. Also did you ever realize that the mom goes into a sort of trance like state when it’s daylight? Maybe she is the moon queen some how? Or is the heirs ether way the strongest of the family, obviously. The grandfather (moon king) wanted her daughter back because as the sisters said “were stronger together” so maybe he wasn’t after just kubos eye but kubo himself because he is a product of both moon and sun being more powerful then himself and his 3 daughters combined. In the beginning kubos mother says herself & the beetle were “rivals” so to speak almost forbidden, maybe because they were literally opposite. Moon & sun. Or maybe you said all of this already in the video and I was to excited to pay attention to detail lol. I feel like this particular theory is easy to over think just because all of the information is just at our fingertips. It is a good one though. Nice video!
Your onto something and I can confirm because Husband (Shannon Tindle) created film and story. It’s partly inspired by my childhood. My mother had dementia at young age and suffered from the sun downers phenomenon. Since she’s a Moon princess her power and mind work clearly at night and suffers in the daylight hours. It’s fun that folks put so much thought into this film!!! All the Sun stuff is not there. This was all 4 years ago so I’m sure everyone has moved onto new mysteries! Thanks for supporting the film!
I'm pretty sure it was explained that kubo's mother was the sister that ran away from the Moon King and I'm pretty sure the premise of the movie was the Sun King wanted to steal his grandson away from his parents by taking his eyes.
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It can't be the old lady villager Kubo knows cause she said her husband dead and she made a lantern for him saying she couldn't shut him up
Then that does confirm it would have to be Hanzo's mother instead of the Moon King's wife; good thing too, my upcoming Laika universe theory requires that wife space to be open for the Beldam
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Also consider this cup of Tea :
She refers to her "dead husband" only metaphorically speaking - to be dead - and she mentions she cant get him to shut up, more likely a nod to his nature and personality.
When the villagers visit the grave sight to see their deceased loved ones, she's the *only* one who doesnt get hers shown on screen, we dont see her visiting her husband, and we dont get to see his spirit - So it's more likely, that she could indeed be referring to the Moon King, as her husband, who she VERY much is aware is still alive, but just sends a lantern out as a nod to her once beloved relationship that is now ruined by him an his need for more power and family Vendettas, and in her metaphoric means- he's technically dead, the Husband she once knew
@@TheTheorizer I can not wait for this lika movie theory to be made omg
There's a legend about Ameterasu (the japanese sun goddess) going and hiding in a cave and denying the world her light and warmth. I find this to be a very similar way that Kubo's mother hides them away in a cave.
The sisters are by far the creepiest characters in the movie
Even creepier than their father
but there really cool in my opinion
they're hot
The creepiest characters in any movie
This makes sense especially with the symbolism
Lakia seems to take inspiration from mythology in this film;
The Greek God Apollo is a God of light and music (especially fond on the lyre a harp thing) which in this case is Kubo's three stringed instrument.
Also the Egyptian god Ra is a sun god who has sacred symbols including a scarab beetle
Just some food for thought or a possible add on to the theory.
Your theory actually aligns with quite a bit of Eastern philosophy (balance) and with Japanese folklore (Sun Goddess and Moon God). Which are very appropriate here.
Then again the Moon God and Sun Goddess are siblings in mythology and they fight sometime
Kubo changed my life. I was 9 and saw it in theaters and even now, 6years later its STILL my favorite movie
The sister who disappeared was kubo's mother
The one at the end. She vanished, whereas the first sister to die we witnessed it.
@@TheTheorizer sorry can you type that again I can't understand theorists (joke this is a joke but please type that again)
That guitar thing is a shamisen, one of the most iconic traditional Japanese instruments.
It's my favorite stringed instrument ever. :)
Lmao the way u said baby was so adorable
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But the guitAr as you said (shamisen) doesn’t give Kubo powers and technically isn’t a weapon ... Kubo already has powers since he’s part god or whatever the moon king is ... he uses the instrument to focus and channel his powers
Are you aware of Kubo's connection to the moon princess from Japanese mythology?
The “poetic baby” comment made me laugh! Also I can’t verify where I’ve heard this from but I feel as though beetles are known to be more of a sin symbol throughout certain cultures! This would support the fact that Hanzo is the son of the sun queen and that when trying to preserve his life she choose a symbol of him.
In the ancient Egypt the scarab, wich looks like Hanso/Beetle, was a symbol of resurrection and the rise of the sun.
So aconnection between Hanso and the sun is indeed possible.
I believe that the sisters and father are meant to be representative and weren’t made biologically.
Raiden- the man in the moon, he’s supposed to represent the moon itself and the pristine glow and loneliness it makes.
Mother/monkey- the north star, truly shins the brightest in the night sky and how it is seen as a good thing helping people find true north and as a sort of wishing well. Brings fortune
The sisters- Castor/Pollux of Gemini, I believe them to be a binary star system that work in unison. In their mythology it details how they became immortal.
This is such a lovely theory! However, there is a video on the channel Gaijin Goomba that goes into an analysis of the origins of the characters and theorizes on a correlation with an actual Japanese story about a moon princess
Don't know if anyone mentioned it, but I will. In the scene when Kubo is out too late and his aunts find him and his mother comes to fight them. The scene is short but as Kubo's is flown away from his mother, you see her and her sisters unleash their full power.
The sisters magic is blue similar to the Moon and matches their Fathers blue light. But, Kubo's mother her magic is a bright gold compared to the sisters.
Even Kubo's magic is gold. If the theory is true that the Moon King married and produced offspring with the Sun Queen, it would make sense. Especially if the queen is more powerful than the king.
The sisters in film do say that Kubo's mother was strong and the most powerful of the three, probably inheriting more of their mother's power while the twins got their father's powers.
If this is true, I see the dynamic of the Moon king and Sun queen similar to that of Ponyos parents. Ponyos father is powerful and I think a wizard who helps keep the ocean in balance, but not as powerful as his wife Ponyos mother who is a goddess.
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Idea: the "elderly lady" wanted to create a world for the dead but accidentally created a series of pocket dimension all around the world and the rast is history
I was wondering about this but do you think the villagers are just nice to the seemingly family-less street grandma because they know who she is? I know Japan is supposed to be based in politeness and reverence for elders but maybe if they remind a human-bound spirit of their origins they will die or lose some mysticism?
After the Moon King becomes human-bound no one in the village goes to tell him who he is. They just go along with him being a new addition to the village. So if the same thing had happened to the Sun goddess, maybe like you suggested she used her power to save Kubo's parents essences should they die in the future and create the "Life Shamisen".
She ends up in the village not know who she is but the villagers know and make sure she is alright. Kubo doesn't interact with anyone but her despite all of the children in the village like it is on purpose.
idk. I'll think about it more but glad to see you were able to get back to this one
Well in Japan where the story takes place, the Moon King(God named Tsukiyomi) is the brother of the Sun Queen(Goddess Amaterasu) in japanese mythology
@@ThePoetUnderTheFall Hmm well if they follow along with the original he was still married to his sister Amaterasu, anyway but it was still a killing that caused Amaterasu to separate from him completely.
And in the movie the nice grandma character didn't hang around outside after dark just like Kubo.
So instead of killing the other goddess and causing the separation it was his adament stance against Kubo's mom and dad. they were on the outs, on their definition of "love", at that point and the slaughter of killing Hanzo (and all of his men it seems) made it final.
Amaterasu became human trying to place Hanzo in the beetle, separated the aware and alert parts of mom's spirit into the monkey figures, and created the shamisen.
You should look into the mythology the movie is based on for answers
Also, could give Studio Ghibli's Princess Kaguya(based on a similar(or is it the same?) Japanese myth/fairytale ) a watch. Seems like there's a lot of potential myth/folklore/fairytale links between moon princesses
😅not everything is a western instrument 😅 oh don’t forget I think this movie Japanese mythology related 🤔 but yeah Kubo’s instrument is pretty cool
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I thought the dads symbol was a dung beetle which according to myth pushes the sun across the sky?
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It has a lot of ties into the princess kaguya myth of Japanese. Ledgend also anothere point i noticed is the mothere was just like her from the legends she could be like amatarasu from the myths its shows in how she is very unresponsive during the day its just a thought though
The movie was based of a Japanese Myth which is why the characters are wearing Kimonos also the setting of the film has a more Asian theme going on.
I think you're right about the myth being about Princess Kaguya.
This movie is really good! I'm not ashamed to say I cried about some of the scenes because they were so sad.
Two quick things.
First) This is just meant as an FYI, but it isn't a guitar, it's a Samisen/Shamisen (not sure on the spelling), a trditional Japanese String Instrument.
Second) To my understanding, it's not the instrument itself that holds the power, but Kubo and his mother, and the instrument is simply a conduit for the power. Remember that, near the beginning of the movie, Kubo's Mother has a nightmare and the paper starts moving on its own. And we've seen on a few other occasions that Kubo's mother is capable of using her power with out playing the instrument. Kubo's likely only needs the instrument due to being (as far as we're aware due to what's said in the movie) Half-Mortal.
Remember how you said how death works in corpse bride and paranorman? Well, in coraline the 3 ghost kids died by getting their eyes gouged out, and had there souls stolen, and they died needing their eyes back, needing to escape, and needing to go back to their mothers. They died suddenly and with unfinished business and couldn't move on, they stayed TRAPPED ad ghosts and when coraline got their eyes back, helped them escape, and let them go see their mothers, they could finally move on to heaven with their souls set free as Angels! Just like what happens in corpse bride an paranorman!
We NEED a Laika shared Universe Theory!
LSU (Laika Shared Universe)
We need more movies like Coraline
LAIKA Shared Universe Theory!
I think that the moon queen is the elderly women because she has a patch on her robe that looks like constellations
Normally your theories are nuts and completely out there that's why I love them so much not to mention your delivery of information is simply hilarious 😂 but this theory actually kinda makes sense
Wait, so this might be a stretch, and it comes like a year late, but if we’re going to connect the Laika universe, consider this: in Coraline, she seems safe in her world during the day, and the nefarious events of the story all take place in the evening. If we’re considering the Beldam to be some sort of Moon Queen, could that explain why she doesn’t attack during the day and relies on the Cat’s powers/the Otherworld’s powers to even spy on Coraline? And/or, if Kubo is descended from the sun and moon and thus has a special protection against darkness, could Coraline be one of his descendants, which explains why Coraline of all the four children the Beldam attacked was able to defeat her?
Good theory but then Kubo was based off a Japanese Myth , so it wouldn't really make sense for Kubo and Coraline to be related.
And if they were related, Coraline would have to be Half Japanese which is impossible because in the book Coraline was an American girl.
@@robertatonar4782 doesn’t have to be half. Just part. Just like how a ton of Asian men are descendants of ghengis khan (supposedly). It just depends on how many kids Kubo has, really.
@@esppupsnkits4560 True but then again the film's are based of two completely different stories which have no relation to each other whatsoever.
And if Coraline was Part Japanese there should be easter eggs in the movie to hint the audience.
Personally, I don't really like the idea of connecting films from the same production companies together.
The timeline gets muddled up and there's usually poor character development.
I love that in all of laikas movies nothing can be on accident because all of them are hand crafted
Do Veggie Tales and Larry's dark decent into madness as his friend Bob does his best to anchor him to reality.
Larry isn't crazy!!!!
"Oh where is my hairbrush?"
Ok maybe he is a little bit crazy
I just love the way you do what you do! Told ya (on Twitter today) that I would come by and catch the new video. Pointing stuff out and leaving us hanging, but you are hanging too... it's all just genius dude. PEACE
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I always imagined that there could have been a sun king, but that Kameyo is the sun queen? wow, that made my mind explode. although it doesn't sound so crazy ... Ancient cultures love the idea of duality XD, it occurs to me that, as you mentioned, Raiden (moon king) and the sun queen could have a relationship (the three sisters being born) and that have been confronted for many reasons (perhaps the ambition of the moon king for wanting more power than is due to him) ending in the sacrifice of the sun queen to protect humans. that would explain the hatred and disgust that the moon king has to the beings of the earth.
/// And that I still haven't made any comments about what the sun queen might have been Hanzo's mother, oh boy ~~~
it's just my imagination going crazy, but how great that in 2019 someone remembers this beautiful movie. a part two of coraline? we need a kubo prequel!!
Congratulations u made me afraid of a granny from a movie just by changing the contrast
I noticed something quite odd at 4:36. If you look in beetween the two bug trees, you can see what seems to be a blue, transparent body. What if THIS is the moon queen, seeing what happend after her husband's defeat. Idk just a small theory.
Could you do this theory in the Lego Batman movie Superman said that he put zod in the phantom zone but when joker goes in the phantom zone he is not there so why did superman lie
You should also look at The Nightmare Before Christmas, as we literally see Vermin in the film!!!!!
Good video theorizer
The Sisters remind me of Micheal Jackson..... Or the Ayuwoki
Kubo is half God half human. Half Moon half sun by his parents.
Kubo and the two strings still scares me
3 strings, one represents the sun, one represents the moon, and the other is in the middle
I enjoyed this. Keep going!
About the beetle transformation. There are actually beetles called Sun beetles that can prove your point on the Sun queens existence
I watched this movie with my mom. We both enjoyed it.
I always thought that this being a film rooted and inspired by Japanese folklore, that the “sun goddess” was Amaterasu, the actual sun goddess in Shinto mythology, and “the moon king” was Tsukuyomi.
The Theorist: So The Grandma Is The Sun Queen
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I was hoping you would theorize this movie! 💕
Yay I’m so happy you finally did a theory on this movie
U should do a ” how many times squidward dies
Ha I lied in the poll
Whoa! Watch out with that Laika Universe theory, Theorizer. People like Bobsheaux might not take too kindly with that idea.
Any theories on "The Boxtrolls"?
I love your channel so much 🥺
Laika is really going hard on that connected films theory. Plus, there's always a prominent "power of the soul" theme
You forgot about TrollBox and Missing Link. These two movies are also Laika movies. Maybe all of them are connected in a way.
I 💜 the relationship you and the fangirl, megan, have! Cooperation is appreciated, love you both, good luck with all your research and vids you deserve all the subs and views good job keep up the good work
This is gunna sound super weird but are you ok? Haven't seen much of your content and I REALLY REALLY enjoy listening to your theories on the stuff you talk about :) Just a random fan checking in on you
The thing about the sisters magic is so true.
It’s complete trash how this movie kinda flopped in the box office. Because it’s seriously a good movie. Big facts.
LAIKA CINEMATIC UNIVERSE TIMELINE:
Kubo and the two strings- between 1185 and 1600.
Boxtrolls- between 1837 and 1901
Missing link- 1886
Corpse bride- late 1800s
Coraline- 2009
Paranorman- 2012
i watch kubo because i have no cable!
Another amazing theory from The Theorizer!
This should tie in with the Mort Theory, as you said that in DreamWorks the moon is symbolizing unification of the Sky Gods, one of the Sky Gods is probably this Moon King who should be referred to as a God, and the fact that intelligent animals are involved in this film makes me rethink that the Twisted Sisters are suppressing Hanzo in his spiritual Kabuto beetle avatar.
Why are your ads always about food? I leave so hungry... Satisfied with knowledge and theory but absolutely famished.
Okay... Now I've GOT to watch this movie!
Thank you!!!
Ok, wanted to make a quick SpongeBob theory unrelated to this video. It's a good video, honestly.
So, all the characters in Spongebob seem to mirror Spongebob in a way. By "mirror", I mean copy his intense stupidity and ignorant bliss. Patrick, his so-called "best friend" is in a state of complete mental shutdown, Sandy dumbs herself down to be a sort of "guide" or "mentor" to him, and Squidward's insanity, his moments of complete insanity have him do what? Laugh like a madman and break down into idiocy. Ignorant bliss seems to be the defining trait of insanity in this show, and what does that say when it's main character embodies that trait? We've seen Spongebob do things a normal human would do. He does karate(an art requiring extreme muscle control and spacial awareness), he has an aptitude for precise fishing, and in the episode "Squidtastic Voyage", he uses a variation of the Heimlich Maneuver to get a clarinet out of Squidward's throat. Even though by the show's definition, he's a walking mess of insanity, he's still competent, unlike Patrick. In a sense, if Spongebob were truly insane, he would be like one of the dumber versions of Patrick. But he isn't. How could one intelligent side and one blissful side exist in conjunction, without a multiple personality set like Patrick has? If one doesn't exist in the first place. What if the reason for Patrick's "snap" was because of Spongebob? The torment of a purposely stupid idiot driving him over the edge? Maybe that's why Squidward avoids Spongebob, in most cases. Out of fear for his own sanity.
My theory is that the Moon king is Tsukuyomi the moon god in shintoism. And his wife was Amatarasu the goddess of the sun. And the sisters are their children. In Shinto mythology their is a story about how Amatarasu left her huzbend after Tsukuyomi killed a lesser god. And this is why we don’t see Amatarasu in the movie. This is also backed up by the fact that Kubos mom and the sisters look similar to classic depictions of Amatarasu.
What a perfect timing laika just released missing link and a kubo theory
Okay.. it’s a shamisen, not a guitar but the rest of the theory is great 👍🏼
I remember watching kubo and the two strings when I was younger and all I can remember is that, the sisters traumatised me and that it encouraged me to learn chopsticks
Awesome theory
Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, the Japanese Kami (Gods) of the sun and moon respectively. I see a parallel, does anybody else?
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I don't think the old woman is Hanso mother but mother of kubos mother the moon family as she is herself is wearing blue. As she knows kubo more than he knows himself. What if the old woman was transformed like the moon king. Is it possible that Hanso mother or could be cursed just like the beldam.
They must made a prequel of Kubo
so yes kubo and charaline are connected cause one of the illustrator also made coralaine
U should really do a GoT theory, seeing as it's nearly over u could do what comes next, or some kind of backstory thing, idk, but it'd just be a cool theory to do
3:33 When you mistake a chilli pepper for a thin strawberry
Cool video
The instrument is Shamisen it's a Japanese instrument.
(lol,late who else is Japanese here?)
The elderly woman could very well be a human incarnation of the goddess Amaterasu and the grandfather of course is Tsukuyomi AKA the moon king. The fact he is depicted as old instead of a young man and she also is very old and acts as Kubo's surrogate grandmother is very interesting. And if this theory is correct, it spins the Kojiki right on its head as Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi were brother and sister and were not romantically involved and had children together whatsoever. But I thought this too watching this movie of the grandmotherly lady being a possible incarnation of the sun goddess herself.
The gods of ancient times had many incarnations especially in Hinduism so I wouldn't put it past the writers in developing the character as so without blatantly saying it in the film.
I'd never have drawn correlations to Coraline and Kubo. This is pretty cool. Hoping we get a 2nd film of each!💜😁
Is it possible that Hanzo's momeries go into a paper form?
I know i m pretty late for this but in the beginning when kubo first told his story n the marketplace, he said that hanzo fought against a filthy spider controlled by the moon king.I don t think that this is exactly OUT of coraline but it felt like a hint to the spider , beldam, and the moon king , spirit of the whole other world, that was kinda interesting to me
Do you still plan on doing that laika universe theory or are you still working on it and how would boxtrolls fit in?
There is a Laika short movie called Moongirl I think moon craze starts with that movie. Would love a Laika complete theory or a video about DreamWorks!
This movie got me scared bc I was only 6 years old and the sinister sisters were more scarier I actually died when I saw them