i recall seeing a single photo of the silver example in a car magazine in the 1980s. no explaination beyond the 'gt70' reg plate and 'ford' on the nose. pre-internet this mystery haunted me for years. such a cool car.
On one of my Saab Sonetts (I've had three), a 1971, both headlights would decide to completely pop up once you hit around 50 mph. For some reason, this didn't happen on either of my other two a 1973 and a 1974. I always wondered if it was a factory flaw that was corrected!
@@theflash1425 My family have been the "Caretakers" also of three of those ('71, '72, & '73 ) fiberglass toys. My new wife & I took off in my '72 on our honeymoon in 1982. It started with a 120-130 mile drive up the Northern California coast and after a bit of celebrating at the reception my wife settled back to take a snooze on the way up to the little resort on the coast. After leaving the twisty-bits, I took off on a long straight for a couple of miles. At about 105 mph, the headlights popped up with a solid "THUMP!!" She thought we'd hit an animal of some sort and got all excited. After a glance out her window she turned and ask, "just how fast are we going??" We had slowed a bit by then and I just smiled and said, "We'll be there soon..."
Ford wanted to capitalize on the Ford GT40's success by having a halo car for the street which is why they acquired De Tomaso in 1970. The Pantera was to be the Gt40's roadworthy succesor. I'm fortunate to have owned mine for the last 30 years.
Thanks, for commenting. Interestingly, I owmed Fords many years (* first Car 1954;V8/2 DR, 57 :289 CI 4 BBL ENGINE, CUSTOM): MY odd Favorite was my 1966 FORD GALAXIE 500 XL/4 Speed/ 352/4 BBL,Burgandy Color/DELUXE BLACK INT, ETC; PROBABLY due to great Improvements & Driver..).
Jay Leno has such a Galaxie in his collection, also burgundy. I saw him stuck in it on Coldwater Canyon in Beverly Hills a couple of years ago awaiting a tow truck. My first car was a new 1969 banana yellow with black stripes Cougar Eliminator. My Pantera was essentially not driveable for the first 18 years I owned it, too many issues. When in 2013 I bought a Jaguar XKR, which was quicker, more civilized, and such a wonderful car to drive, I gave up even trying to drive the Pantera. After looking at it for a couple of years in the driveway, I decided that either I would make it a car I could confidently drive any time I wanted to or I would get rid of it. Four years of modifying and restoring finally gave me the car it should always have been, and I now drive it every single weekend. The only good thing about waiting so long for it to be driveable was that I shrunk in height almost 4" over about 5 years (from about 6'-3" to about 5'11 1/2") which allows me to sit comfortably in my Pantera for the first time. If only my feet would shrink, maybe then I could wear shoes for the first time driving it. Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen, so it's still a barefoot drive.
fr fenders, a pillar, windscreen and rear valance, plus wheelbase and overhangs. Then the Dino copied parts of either. It's the logical size and shape of a pocket race car. Supra, last (BEST) RX-7, Speedster ......... :) more to cum.
Having owned a 904, I'm gonna say "Not really", but it does look a lot like a British specialty car maker's model, the name of which I can't recall. One of the really small makers, like Clan or Piper.
What jumps out to me is that Bradley kit cars straight up copied this prototype for their "Bradley GTII". Which, is what kit cars often do. But, I never knew this was likely where it originated from.
Ford would take a stab at the mid engined layout again in the 80's with the RS200 which was aimed at Group B Rallying, but due to the cancellation of the group, it never really got the chance to shine. Although a number of the car did go on to have successful carriers in Rallycross.
And then the Lancia Stratos appeared and all the other rally cars of the times were immediately outclassed. Who would have thought a mid-engined car built only for rallying would go on to dominate? 🤣
@@daveapplemotors You may be conflating the Delta S4 with the Stratos. The Delta S4 was a Group B monster - 4WD, turbo and supercharger with many horse powers! The Stratos was 2WD with a Ferrari Dino V6 tucked in behind the driver. No turbos or superchargers, just a short wheelbase and a twitchy chassis 😁
This will go in my list of the most beautiful cars ever. So far the list consist of Ferrari 250 GTO, Lamborghini Miura, Porsche 904 and this 904d (see what I did there). 👊❤
-This was built of fiberglass. The only reason that I can think of as to why Ford didn't introduce this in the United States was that it would have been too expensive and would have cut down on (profitable) Mustang sales. Sad. I would have powered it with a Kent 1.6 or the Pinto 2.3 SOHC engine with a small amount of performance upgrade. I would bet that the cast iron Cologne V6 version was tail-heavy since that engine weighs more than the 5.0 V8, and that might negatively effect handling
Track looks too narrow. Picking up suspension components from some pretty underwhelming cars. Did I miss it in the video, was the chassis tubular frame or monocoque? Surprised no one has tried making a fibreglass kitcar replica.
Escort killed it. Because it was marketing for car for every Joe Shmoe. And this wasn't. Rallye was always showoff of regular cars, even if under similar body, all mechanics were changed. That's why street legal Lancia Delta is till this day a legend. Even if you see 1.6 HF, you turn your head.
You had me going - I clicked. But no, it was the GT70. It was not an evolution of the GT40. I always appreciate informative car content, but the click bait headline wasn’t needed and is misleading.
Well, its future was assured once I heard the line "And then Ford USA got involved ...". Yep, dead in the water. They would want to put a massive lump of V8 iron in the back, which would probably put out less power than a 4-cylinder Cosworth, and make it handle like a piece of the proverbial, and have an auto trans, 'cause Americans can't drive 'stick' and don't understand that what makes a car 'quick' is going around corners fast and braking fast, more than sounding like they are accelerating fast (especially when they are not, really).
i recall seeing a single photo of the silver example in a car magazine in the 1980s. no explaination beyond the 'gt70' reg plate and 'ford' on the nose. pre-internet this mystery haunted me for years. such a cool car.
Great video! Would love to see something on the history of Consulier/ Mosler!
This is great stuff. Keep up the good work
Watching that headlamp cover flapping up and down, was funny, I have owned several cars that had that feature. Lol
On one of my Saab Sonetts (I've had three), a 1971, both headlights would decide to completely pop up once you hit around 50 mph. For some reason, this didn't happen on either of my other two a 1973 and a 1974. I always wondered if it was a factory flaw that was corrected!
@@theflash1425 My family have been the "Caretakers" also of three of those ('71, '72, & '73 ) fiberglass toys. My new wife & I took off in my '72 on our honeymoon in 1982. It started with a 120-130 mile drive up the Northern California coast and after a bit of celebrating at the reception my wife settled back to take a snooze on the way up to the little resort on the coast. After leaving the twisty-bits, I took off on a long straight for a couple of miles. At about 105 mph, the headlights popped up with a solid "THUMP!!" She thought we'd hit an animal of some sort and got all excited. After a glance out her window she turned and ask, "just how fast are we going??" We had slowed a bit by then and I just smiled and said, "We'll be there soon..."
Thanks man, love to find stuff like this which is new to me. Stay motivated!
The front end is very Opel GT-ish. In fact, kind of looks like a mid-engined re-imagination of an Opel GT.
Do the Alpine A110...
Yes!
Would love to build one with the pop ups myself
Ford wanted to capitalize on the Ford GT40's success by having a halo car for the street which is why they acquired De Tomaso in 1970. The Pantera was to be the Gt40's roadworthy succesor. I'm fortunate to have owned mine for the last 30 years.
Thanks, for commenting. Interestingly, I owmed Fords many years (* first Car 1954;V8/2 DR, 57 :289 CI 4 BBL ENGINE, CUSTOM): MY odd Favorite was my 1966 FORD GALAXIE 500 XL/4 Speed/ 352/4 BBL,Burgandy Color/DELUXE BLACK INT, ETC; PROBABLY due to great Improvements & Driver..).
Jay Leno has such a Galaxie in his collection, also burgundy. I saw him stuck in it on Coldwater Canyon in Beverly Hills a couple of years ago awaiting a tow truck. My first car was a new 1969 banana yellow with black stripes Cougar Eliminator. My Pantera was essentially not driveable for the first 18 years I owned it, too many issues. When in 2013 I bought a Jaguar XKR, which was quicker, more civilized, and such a wonderful car to drive, I gave up even trying to drive the Pantera. After looking at it for a couple of years in the driveway, I decided that either I would make it a car I could confidently drive any time I wanted to or I would get rid of it. Four years of modifying and restoring finally gave me the car it should always have been, and I now drive it every single weekend. The only good thing about waiting so long for it to be driveable was that I shrunk in height almost 4" over about 5 years (from about 6'-3" to about 5'11 1/2") which allows me to sit comfortably in my Pantera for the first time. If only my feet would shrink, maybe then I could wear shoes for the first time driving it. Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen, so it's still a barefoot drive.
I've regretted having to sell my 72 Pre L since 1991.
Wasn't expecting to hear a shout out to my Mk1 Ford Fiesta Ghia in this video lol
Is it my imagination, or does this look like a slightly enlarged Porsche 904?
Kinda does for sure.
Not really
fr fenders, a pillar, windscreen and rear valance, plus wheelbase and overhangs. Then the Dino copied parts of either. It's the logical size and shape of a pocket race car. Supra, last (BEST) RX-7, Speedster ......... :) more to cum.
Having owned a 904, I'm gonna say "Not really", but it does look a lot like a British specialty car maker's model, the name of which I can't recall. One of the really small makers, like Clan or Piper.
Jaguar Porsche lotus
It looks like... everything!!!!
Once upon a time a car won a race! Short story to a great brand
This is a very good looking machine!
Looks a lot like a Lancia Stratos.
And those look like Weber carbs while he is talking about Kuglefischer FI at about 6:07
The Ford F3L would be a good video.
What jumps out to me is that Bradley kit cars straight up copied this prototype for their "Bradley GTII". Which, is what kit cars often do. But, I never knew this was likely where it originated from.
I thought the Bradley was a Ford when I was a young kid
I went from never hearing about it to wanting it pretty quick like, lol,
Ford would take a stab at the mid engined layout again in the 80's with the RS200 which was aimed at Group B Rallying, but due to the cancellation of the group, it never really got the chance to shine. Although a number of the car did go on to have successful carriers in Rallycross.
Looks like someone bred an Opel GT with a Saab Sonett and then bred that with an A110.
Another awesome video - besides saying Ercole (Err-có-le) like "Earrlcol"
Very interesting video ❤❤❤
If the GT70 had been released to the public it would have been a hit and still a classic today.
I remember this car from rally sport challenge 2
Then the Lancia Stratos came with the same concept.. And improved it.
A video about Ford racing and rallying. The first car in the video is a 72 or 73 AMC Matador in NASCAR trim 🙈🙉🙊
As Spock would say, 'Fascinating!"
First time i saw this car was in Ford Racing 3
They could bring this idea back and make an American Miata. But that would be too much fun for the soulless Corporate ghouls.
True unfortunately
Interesting story
Interesting car.
And then the Lancia Stratos appeared and all the other rally cars of the times were immediately outclassed.
Who would have thought a mid-engined car built only for rallying would go on to dominate? 🤣
stratos were 4WD turbo and supercharged - four hundred horse power.
these Fords were given 2nd rate power plants
@@daveapplemotors
You may be conflating the Delta S4 with the Stratos.
The Delta S4 was a Group B monster - 4WD, turbo and supercharger with many horse powers!
The Stratos was 2WD with a Ferrari Dino V6 tucked in behind the driver. No turbos or superchargers, just a short wheelbase and a twitchy chassis 😁
@@thedon-e6514 you are right
Strange it couldn't beat the Escort. Cool vid!
The Ford Dino
Any relationship with the Davarian officially or unofficially?
6:37
The what? The Tannis?! You mean the 'Taunus'.
Cool car, but not much of a secret - Corgi made a 1:64 diecast version, with an opening engine cover, cool toy.
6:37 Ah yes, the famous Ford Tannis...
Taunus*
This will go in my list of the most beautiful cars ever. So far the list consist of Ferrari 250 GTO, Lamborghini Miura, Porsche 904 and this 904d (see what I did there). 👊❤
I have to say it's does exist just not under the blue oval but alpine a110 you look at the lineage
Looks identical to an old alpine a110. That can’t be a coincidence. Like identical
-This was built of fiberglass. The only reason that I can think of as to why Ford didn't introduce this in the United States was that it would have been too expensive and would have cut down on (profitable) Mustang sales.
Sad. I would have powered it with a Kent 1.6 or the Pinto 2.3 SOHC engine with a small amount of performance upgrade. I would bet that the cast iron Cologne V6 version was tail-heavy since that engine weighs more than the 5.0 V8, and that might negatively effect handling
FORD CONTOUR SVT! I just caught you!
It’s funny how it had those bitchin’ Panasport Magnesium wheels even in the drawings.
Track looks too narrow. Picking up suspension components from some pretty underwhelming cars. Did I miss it in the video, was the chassis tubular frame or monocoque? Surprised no one has tried making a fibreglass kitcar replica.
I think it's a continue to the 1962 mustang development
Escort killed it. Because it was marketing for car for every Joe Shmoe.
And this wasn't.
Rallye was always showoff of regular cars, even if under similar body, all mechanics were changed.
That's why street legal Lancia Delta is till this day a legend. Even if you see 1.6 HF, you turn your head.
You had me going - I clicked.
But no, it was the GT70. It was not an evolution of the GT40.
I always appreciate informative car content, but the click bait headline wasn’t needed and is misleading.
Ferrari Dino + Lotus Elan = Ford GT70
Looks kinda like the Renault Alpine A110.
In Europe, it's just called 'Rallying'. Rally-Racing is a US term, we don't call it that.
Video is made by an American TH-camr. Yet you’re still confused?
@@skeezix8156 About a car built in Britain by Ford UK to go rallying in Europe.
Stuart Turner was the director of competition/ motorsport at Ford, know him well.
Shame they did not take the GT 40 directly onto the rough ... OK engine size reduction .., but just get it in the loose stuff & see how it flew ...
in the intro, you mentioned Shelby Mustangs, and showed a non-Shelby. The Eleanor cars are NOT Shelby's.
The Eleanor wasn't a real car.
It is a car based off a movie prop, and the company that made them, ripped off their customers.
I wander what it would look like with some 28in forge’s
Looks like a Ferrari Dino to me.
🥝✔️
Well, its future was assured once I heard the line "And then Ford USA got involved ...". Yep, dead in the water.
They would want to put a massive lump of V8 iron in the back, which would probably put out less power than a 4-cylinder Cosworth, and make it handle like a piece of the proverbial, and have an auto trans, 'cause Americans can't drive 'stick' and don't understand that what makes a car 'quick' is going around corners fast and braking fast, more than sounding like they are accelerating fast (especially when they are not, really).
It should have had a V8