Secrets of The Motorway - M62 - Part 1

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    We're getting down to some serious business in this two part episode that looks at the M62 motorway as it spans the country from Liverpool to Manchester, on to Leeds and then almost Hull.
    The M62 has seen many changes since it was first opened and some of it wasn't even built so we're missing a few junctions. Some parts of it were taken to be used as another motorway... what's the deal there?
    There's also some nice bridges, abandoned roads, services... all the usual motorway things you can expect from Auto Shenanigans.

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  • @RingwayManchester
    @RingwayManchester ปีที่แล้ว +443

    Mast debater you say?

    • @davesmith5914
      @davesmith5914 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Or Mast debater?

    • @RingwayManchester
      @RingwayManchester ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@davesmith5914 yes you’re quite right

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +116

      The number one mast debater on all of youtube don't you know.

    • @kiradotee
      @kiradotee ปีที่แล้ว

      How's the mast debating going?

    • @EportChris
      @EportChris ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Debater of masts. Lewis, John's got you there 🤣

  • @Simon-wn2id
    @Simon-wn2id ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed the white and red roses near the viaduct, separating Yorkshire from Lancashire. Always used to look out for them every time I travelled that M-way.
    Great video as always.

  • @Rorschach.
    @Rorschach. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been looking forward to your treatment of this one - particularly the M62>M63>M60>M602 shenanigans. Kudos for not falling for the myth about the farmer's house too. (78.5k subs - getting there.👍)

    • @m60kaf
      @m60kaf ปีที่แล้ว

      Isnt it a fact that the farmer didn't/doesn't even own the farm. Tenants of Yorksire Water? Sure I've seen an old video of the people living there saying it was a bit of a nightmare

    • @SiRhodesDriverTraining
      @SiRhodesDriverTraining ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m60kafi remember that. It was a documentary about the building of the motorway and the farmer was Ken Wild at the time. Paul who is there now used to work for Ken I think and took it over when Ken died. I’m sure they offered him a payment to relocate just for the inconvenience but he stayed put. As Jon said, the Motorway HAD to go round the farm but I’m wondering if that relocation payment started the urban myth about him refusing to move.

  • @Smelter57
    @Smelter57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good choice of outro spot. Known locally to the hang gliding fraternity as Nont Sarahs after the nearest pub. Shame they built a car park on the take off area.

  • @kippen64
    @kippen64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This one of the best channels on TH-cam.

  • @grahamwalker2312
    @grahamwalker2312 ปีที่แล้ว

    During my running days there used to be regular off-road events from Littleborough centre climbing up towards the M62, across a footbridge over the M62, down a steep track which lead to us running under the Rakewood Viaduct, down past Hollingworth Lake and back to Littleborough Centre. About 5mile and great fun ! If you like off-road hill running.

  • @minioner5080
    @minioner5080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the way you just bypassed St Helens 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @2001davebowman
    @2001davebowman ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Jon! THIS is the video I’ve been waiting for since I discovered your channel! The M62 is a familiar road, having driven along it many, many, MANY times in my 61 years on this planet.
    Interesting point, junction 10 used to be called Junction 10/21A. And in 1983 I was driving my Morris Marina westbound along the M62 to join the M6 south. The route signs were randomly positioned above the motorway as that bit of the M62 used to be an urban motorway. I didn’t see the signs until I was too late. Inexperience told me I could turn left and successfully get to the M6. What I learnt that day was the Marina has a shit steering system and the inertia of a tank. The car skidded across the slip road, scraped along a street lamp, which removed the front nearside wing and most of the passenger door. I then climbed the embankment and hit the wooden fence, the car poised vertically. The engine was pushed into the interior, still running. The car fell backwards and, obviously, I did not die that day! I survived with severe bruising. The car did not survive. Neither did part of the wooden fence, which Cheshire Council charged me for! Which was nice. 🙄
    Moral: always wear a seatbelt!

    • @anthonycrompton6922
      @anthonycrompton6922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you lived however that section was never an urban motorway. Overhead signs are at major interchanges not only because the motorway is elevated.

    • @2001davebowman
      @2001davebowman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anthonycrompton6922 Ah, thank you. I stand corrected. It was a bit bonkers to be merrily driving, watching for signs at the side of the road and to be suddenly faced by an overhead sign! I got a telling off from the traffic cops for not noticing. However, they did give me a strong coffee for my nerves too, so not all bad!

  • @chrisbardell
    @chrisbardell ปีที่แล้ว

    You definitely need Driving Away From Home by It's Immaterial as the music for part 2. Maybe the only mention of the M62 in a song's lyrics?

  • @georgejpg
    @georgejpg ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a great presenter.

  • @gijgij4541
    @gijgij4541 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only is Stott Farm on a geological fault, but all the land up and around there, from the top of Windy Hill until Scammonden Dam, is owned by Yorkshire Water, the farmer being a tenant, so "refusal to move" would never have been a question..

  • @VampMiku502
    @VampMiku502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your forgot that on Manchester section of M62 that is currently M60 there was a ghost junction known as junction 16. Junction 16 was originally planned as a interchange with M601 that was supposed to run from junction 16 and terminate what was called "Manchester Inner Ring Road". Of course as we known M601 was never build as majority planned roads in that area but a gap was present until M60 was created

    • @nowster
      @nowster ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why the bridge there is so wide. It was originally going to carry the slip roads for the M601.

    • @fenlinescouser4105
      @fenlinescouser4105 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seem to remember the junction site was in a dip and prone to localised fog. Multiple smashes in that stretch in early days of the motorway opening.

    • @nowster
      @nowster ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenlinescouser4105 It wasn't nicknamed Death Valley by the locals for nothing!

    • @fenlinescouser4105
      @fenlinescouser4105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nowster I lived locally at the time although I associate Death Valley with cowboys from Rochdale! 🤠

  • @SiRhodesDriverTraining
    @SiRhodesDriverTraining ปีที่แล้ว

    5:52 Welcome to Manchester pal 😂 I wasted years of my life in a previous job sitting on the M60.

  • @SirBorisHayter
    @SirBorisHayter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the farmhouse in the corridor of uncertainty?

  • @hairyairey
    @hairyairey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like John's speed, he makes Ben Shapiro sound like he has a speech impediment!

  • @stoopidpaki4806
    @stoopidpaki4806 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in 1980s there used to be lots of these raised ramps with beastly police Range Rovers looking down on the traffic. I once got caught taking a leak behind the hedges on the hard shoulder - after owning up the copper let me off with a stiff warning. I had beads of sweat rolling down my face because the tax disc was ran out. But he missed that although it was dark. Those beastly Range Rovers and ramps are gone now. And don't bother with avoiding the tax etc because of modern technology.

  • @nick4995
    @nick4995 ปีที่แล้ว

    would love to live on that farm pass it daily🥰

  • @lxdimension
    @lxdimension ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking of the A627(M) where it meets the M62, these A(M) motorways are a farse as they think it is ok to just have roundabouts in the middle of them then for the motorway to continue after the roundabout, just like at 6:21 in this video! This defeats part of the purpose of it being a motorway which is to avoid things like roundabouts. It also means the design forces you to breach their own rules of "no stopping on a motorway" by stopping to give way! Then they even have the audacity on some of these "motorway roundabouts" to put up signs saying "motorway no stopping" - Are they actually taking the piss?! - I wonder if different rules apply to these A (M) motorways than Mx Motorways because that is a very regular occurance on an A(M) motorway, but never happens on an Mx motorway anywhere in the country except in ONE place which is the junction of the M271 with the M27 near Southampton, which I am ADAMANT is an ILLEGAL MOTORWAY as a result! There are other purely roundabout junctions between Mx motorways such as the M18/M180 junction, but that is where they end and that is where the numbered motorway of M180 ends. At least they have the decency to terminate their own existence at the point they break the rules even if motorway conditions still apply, but the M271 is the only Mx that can't even bring it's self to do that (unless i've forgotten one someone wants to correct me on) - Disgrace! Can anyone shed further light on these anomolies?

  • @pairojeans
    @pairojeans ปีที่แล้ว

    Fo more information on it's construction: th-cam.com/video/1rHUVU5ukAc/w-d-xo.html

  • @RichardBrooklyn
    @RichardBrooklyn ปีที่แล้ว +91

    This is one of those really weird channels where I have absolutely no interest in the subject matter, I have no idea why the TH-cam algorithm recommended it... BUT I WATCHED ONE EPISODE MONTHS AGO AND NOW I CANNOT STOP WATCHING.
    Bravo.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same here. I don’t even have a car!

    • @christycullen2355
      @christycullen2355 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AtheistOrphan same here

    • @bear.chills
      @bear.chills ปีที่แล้ว

      Because its mostly daily live stuff what grips you and the fact that most people can relate to

  • @andynaylor1234
    @andynaylor1234 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Thank god your corrected Stott Hall Farm. As soon as I saw the thumbnail I was instantly raging. The number of arguments I've had with people about the fact there's a geological fault which led to them diverting the motorway around and not because the farmer was stubborn.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      lucky farmer to build on a geological fault

    • @Dan23_7
      @Dan23_7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too Andy 😂
      It’s a great fable isn’t it though

    • @andynaylor1234
      @andynaylor1234 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @High Path the land is actually owned by United Utilities as part of the water catchment area for the reservoir, the farm is only rented.

    • @glen1555
      @glen1555 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I saw the headline and had to click on to refute the myth that the farmer refused to sell, when actually it was not suitable to build the motorway on his land

    • @Mike_5
      @Mike_5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@glen1555 Ever heard of Spaghetti Junction?

  • @GazMoby
    @GazMoby ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Now it's officially Sunday! 💪

    • @johnmiller4973
      @johnmiller4973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AMEN

    • @JakeSilvester
      @JakeSilvester ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My new way of knowing the day!

    • @arthur1670
      @arthur1670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sundays are all about motorways and economic of providing a fighting force 🎉🎉🎉

    • @shadytube84
      @shadytube84 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was just me!!!

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The highlight of any drive on the M62 is seeing the farm in the middle. Always brings a smile. 😊

    • @dopiaza2006
      @dopiaza2006 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Didn't make me smile when my cambelt snapped right there in the snow!

    • @VegasMilgauss
      @VegasMilgauss ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up.

  • @noelphilips
    @noelphilips ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Yes! Been waiting for this one! Used to drive the M62 twice a week. Always strange how the weather from the east to the west of the highest point is usually the complete opposite.

    • @grindelston5968
      @grindelston5968 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lancashire to yorkshire?
      It's better this side because God likes us best !
      XD

    • @warringtonminge4167
      @warringtonminge4167 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You know how it works.
      When in Manchester go outside and look east.
      If you can't see the Pennines it's raining.
      If you can see the Pennines it's just about to rain.

  • @mistywolf312
    @mistywolf312 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Aww, damn, I was told as a kid about the farmer who refused to sell up and now the road goes round his farm, I guess in my head I knew about compulsory purchase but my heart had hoped the little man had won his day !

    • @chrishartley1210
      @chrishartley1210 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There was a farmer who protested about the motorway works, but it wasn't this farm and they didn't knock that farm down either.

    • @Frag-ile
      @Frag-ile ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Not sure how much of a victory it'd truly be to live in such proximity to a motorway on either side of you though.

    • @gijgij4541
      @gijgij4541 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Frag-ile The sheep that live on the fields between the two carriageways are always a mucky shade of grey.

    • @billybattams-scott
      @billybattams-scott ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It’s all to do with a geographical fault which lies beneath the soil.

    • @abbottsadventures
      @abbottsadventures ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This guy deserves his own tv show

  • @tinrobot1746
    @tinrobot1746 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    You didn’t cover the rather expensive footpath bridge at just about the highest point. It is part of the pennine way and was insisted on by Barbara Castle. Thousands walk across it every year.

    • @FurbleFawks
      @FurbleFawks ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Genuinely might be worth sneaking something in to part 2 about this!

    • @seanmcquinn1985
      @seanmcquinn1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was hoping the same. You can see the Pennine Way bridge in the drone shot at @7:25

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Scammonden bridge is the larger of the two bridges. Stay tuned for part 2 ;)

  • @millstonebarn
    @millstonebarn ปีที่แล้ว +38

    What a wonderful end. God's Own County. I can't wait to get to North Cave next week. Well done Jon.

    • @susanofhullhumberside4753
      @susanofhullhumberside4753 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes our amazing County of Humberside

    • @millstonebarn
      @millstonebarn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@susanofhullhumberside4753 Haha! Oh my. The Thridings. I may not sleep this evening Susan.

    • @Rebecka_J
      @Rebecka_J ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susanofhullhumberside4753 ​But Kingston-upon-Hull is in Hullshire.

    • @rdouthwaite
      @rdouthwaite ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@susanofhullhumberside4753 you're Yorkshire and you know it 😉😆

  • @TheCcponyboy
    @TheCcponyboy ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Stott Hall farm has a tradition. You must wave to the farmer going past, "Hello Mr Thorpe!" Just in case you break down and need help.

  • @smilerbob
    @smilerbob ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:48 TH-cam’s subtitle/ closed captioning system picks up your joke amazingly well 🤣🤣

  • @El_Smeghead
    @El_Smeghead ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad you quashed the myth of Stot Hall Farm.. I've known the truth since the 1970s but nobody ever believed me.
    I now have a link to send them, cheers 👍

  • @chrishartley1210
    @chrishartley1210 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think you missed a bit of vital information about Rakewood Viaduct. The reason it is so high is to allow passage of ships down Longden End Brook.

    • @diversionbob8482
      @diversionbob8482 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Hartley 😂😂😂😂

    • @JMG896
      @JMG896 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂🤣

  • @sydnorth5868
    @sydnorth5868 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    An unusual feature of the M6/M62 junction is that the slip roads from M62 Eastbound to M6 Southbound and M62 Westbound to M6 Northbound run side by side for some distance, but the opposite way round to normal. When using one of these slip roads, the traffic coming the other way is on your left rather than your right.

    • @grindelston5968
      @grindelston5968 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Haha, I read that in John's voice

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sound like a trip. Cheers

    • @Rebecka_J
      @Rebecka_J ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a feature of the Partially Unrolled Cloverleaf design, so the same also happens at the M40/M25 and M4/A329(M) junctions too.

  • @dcarter3921
    @dcarter3921 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For those of us who lived in or near the area or passed the place, as a kid it was a right of passage to be told a stubborn farmer story. Must have been because our folks wanted us to be strong and learn to stand up for ourselves :)

    • @MummaBear
      @MummaBear ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh how
      People change.

  • @michelle.lima5
    @michelle.lima5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have driven past that farm many times and was always told it was because the owner didnt want to sell, that was the urban myth, thanks for clearing that up :)

  • @paulb8186
    @paulb8186 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The farmer that wouldn't move is just an urban myth. In reality because of the slope of the land it was cheaper to build two well separate carridgeways leaving the farmhouse in the middle rather than move millions of tons of earth unecessarily saving millions of pounds and time.

  • @88jerryw88
    @88jerryw88 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This series has turned out to be far more interesting than I thought it would be. Fun fact: The 6 miles over the top of the Pennines took 6 years to build and now is crossed in 6 minutes. There's a good youtube video of how it was built.

  • @Kevin-mx1vi
    @Kevin-mx1vi ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Windy Hill might not _seem_ very high, but it's the first high ground the weather comes to after crossing the Atlantic, and where it can dump huge amounts of rain or snow. Trust me, you *really* don't want to be up there in a storm.

    • @spuriouspodge7416
      @spuriouspodge7416 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's the entirety of the west coast of Ireland, and then the east coast around Wicklow. So that's not exactly true...

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@spuriouspodge7416 But Ireland is low compared to the Pennines. The wind then picks up more moisture from the Irish Sea, crosses the flat south Lancashire plains, then has to rise very sharply when it hits the west side of the Pennines. The wind picks up speed, the moisture condenses and falls, and you get weather that's downright hostile !

    • @hairyairey
      @hairyairey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kevin-mx1vi I've experienced the opposite when the wind is in the opposite direction - raining on the Ladybower Reservoir side of Snake Pass but completely dry in Glossop. People give you funny looks when you cycle past them soaking wet on a dry day.

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hairyairey Haha, yeah. They're two completely different climate zones.
      I live in Sowerby Bridge, my son lives in Littleborough, and whatever the weather's doing in one it's usually the opposite in the other.

  • @jamesharman647
    @jamesharman647 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    babe wake up it’s secrets of the motorway time

  • @ShedTV
    @ShedTV ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I grew up a mile from Burtonwood services. Originally there wasn't a junction, but there was a service road to each 'wigwam' at either end of the single carriageway bridge which linked Burtonwood and Great Sankey. The service roads had barriers with a key pad and if you (ahem) knew somebody in the Police force who might tell you the code, you could open the barrier and drive onto the motorway in either direction without having to battle through the traffic to Warrington or Rainhill.

    • @Br1anuk
      @Br1anuk ปีที่แล้ว

      Wigwam? I thought the services were supposed to look like trees after a nuclear apocalypse!

    • @DizzyDooDar
      @DizzyDooDar ปีที่แล้ว

      Was this just a junction for the service area then, before the Gemini Retail Park and Omega Business parks were built?

    • @mrlister2000
      @mrlister2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DizzyDooDar Yes. Each service station had its own slip road, like most services in the UK.
      However, when they demolished the old airbase and hangars they built the new junction, and expanded the road network around it.

    • @computerbob06
      @computerbob06 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We did the same at Newport Pagnell services! They could be accessed by a local road, so negated the need to use the junction - just had to know someone who worked there who knew the code!

    • @goodfes
      @goodfes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't the motorway laid over one of USAF Burtonwood's runways. I seem to recall you could still see some of the old Runway paving at the junction there.

  • @JD-wn3cc
    @JD-wn3cc ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My anxiety was so high for nearly all this video waiting for the farm bit. Thinking 'surely, John has done his research better than the thumbnail suggests?' Not gonna lie, had us in the first half

    • @PabloCreep
      @PabloCreep ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Came here to rage comment. Disappointed that there's no need.

  • @aidy6000
    @aidy6000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aw yiss, been waiting for this one John. I use this miserable stretch of tarmac almost everyday.

  • @darthhideous3623
    @darthhideous3623 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ahh yes the M62...So established in Northern folklore, that it got the dubious honour of a mention in 'Its Grim Up North' by The KLF (To the sound of howling winds and cawing crows.lol.)

    • @chrisbardell
      @chrisbardell ปีที่แล้ว

      I just commented about Its Immaterial, completely forgetting about the JAMMs masterpiece (they used that name for It's Grim Up North).

  • @carldickson2603
    @carldickson2603 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hoped you liked the North West Jon, living in manchester you're never more than an hour from stunning scenery! . . . The West Yorkshire stretch of the M62 is equally stunning. loving the drone shots. :)

    • @MrDazvere
      @MrDazvere ปีที่แล้ว

      …….and you are never more than an hour without it raining. I’ve lived in Manchester all my life and it rains…….a lot. By the way John you went right past my house! I live about 2 mins from the A627(M) interchange.

  • @JackMellor498
    @JackMellor498 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Seeing as how the past few videos have been motorways up north, I figured you were just doing them to get them out of the way to avoid tackling the M62 for how huge it is, spanning the width of the North from coast to coast more or less.
    Good job on having it be two parts!

    • @garethaethwy
      @garethaethwy ปีที่แล้ว

      But where is the M53/M531?

  • @tucker9162
    @tucker9162 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I travel the M62 pretty much its entire length every week. It's weird seeing it from different angles, thanks John. However, even though there are some loverly views coming over the top, that is tempered by the M62 being full of idiots that cannot drive and massive traffic jams. If I set off from Liverpool on a Friday at 12pm I can get home in Lincolnshire in about 2.5hrs. If I set off after 2pm Im looking at 4-5hrs if I'm lucky.

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. M62 around Manchester is just a car park on Friday afternoons.

    • @bobblebardsley
      @bobblebardsley ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus all the vehicles that aren't really up to the climb and the occasional "sheep in road" warning. I think my personal favourite was eastbound on that steepest climb where it has extra lanes, an HGV had broken down in one of the middle lanes and the traffic was opening like a zip to pass it on both sides, absolute carnage. I don't drive much (currently carless) and that day made me glad of it!

  • @gbhxu
    @gbhxu ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Am I the only person that watches these videos and wishes that Jon would have started at the other end of the motorway because that is the way they travel?

    • @rachelwalker7091
      @rachelwalker7091 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you travel back on a different route? I use the M62 both ways, away from home and back to home!

    • @mrlister2000
      @mrlister2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      I start at the Liverpool end, so for me John has gone the right way!!

    • @jonno8183
      @jonno8183 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rachelwalker7091 I live at the eastern end of the M62 and find the 'scenic route' via Woodhead Pass is a great alternative especially when heading to or from Manchester airport.

  • @davidistesting
    @davidistesting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the M62 / M63 / M66 all being renumbered to the M60. So much time appeared to be spent just using stickers put over the old "2" "3" and "6" digits on gantries and signs that weren't even in the same typeface, so looked quite out-of-place. Some of the old M63 signs were so faded they looked even more out of place when the "0" was added. The renumbering was fairly whack too...

  • @David_Crayford
    @David_Crayford ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be easy to imagine a conspiracy theory where the councilor, the banker and the geologist walk into a pub and fix the report. The council save face from bad publicity, the banker keeps an income from the farmer, the farmer keeps his home, the geologist has a fridge full of meat and loaves from the butcher and baker, and the barman sells beer to all the above.

    • @Anmeteor9663
      @Anmeteor9663 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's not just theory, it's how the world works.

  • @pgbaines65
    @pgbaines65 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was hoping you would cover the boundary stones with the roses on. I have always wanted to know what the plaques say. 😳🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤠

  • @lonewolfhamradio
    @lonewolfhamradio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live at the other end of the M62 and always enjoy passing the farm, mainly because I’m going to Manchester Airport on holiday, why else would you leave East Yorkshire?

  • @andrewb3122
    @andrewb3122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, the highest point is only 1221, it's probably just that I'm American but that number surprised me, I've been on interstate highways nearly 10 times as high since our highest interstate point is at 11155ft/3400m

  • @michaelg4411
    @michaelg4411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Growing up, my dad always pointed out to my brothers and I the old stone white and red roses on either side of the M62, marking the old boundary between Yorkshire and Lancashire as we sped past. Now I do the same with my kids. Every single time. Miss you dad.
    By the way, I say ‘old boundary’ because apparently I’m from Greater Manchester, not Lancashire. I refuse to accept such nonsense!

  • @pm-bg9mu
    @pm-bg9mu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's not true
    The ground was unstable to build on there

  • @rjones6219
    @rjones6219 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have driven the 62, since it first opened back in the 60s. I have "enjoyed", all the extreme weather conditions it has thrown at me. It was not unusual to drive through snow 6 inches deep, I once saw a car overturned on the hard shoulder from losing traction in the snow. Back in the 70s, they closed the moor section due to "bottle" ice. That caused a whole load of diversionary problems for a whole week.
    Back in the 70s, the motorway was only lit around Manchester, the lights ended at the Thornham interchange, then into the blackness for the remainder of the journey until Leeds.
    Driving in fog was a challenge, especially when leaving at J22, the fog was often so thick, that I had to drive with my head out of the window, as dipped headlights would reflect back too much. (cars weren't necessarily fitted with fog lights in those days)
    Another mammoth task, was filling in a valley at the Scammonden dam. Before they built the bridge over the 62, cars used to approach the end of the hill, then turn (left/right depending on direction), drive down a narrow winding road, into the bottom of the valley and then up the other side. Sadly, the Scammonden bridge has had to be modified, to prevent poor people jumping off it. 😔
    What a lovely way to finish the vid, with a magnificent panorama of Saddleworth moors. 👍

    • @PenisMcWhirtar
      @PenisMcWhirtar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for that comment - brings back a lot of memories of the 6 years I studied in Durham in the early 80s. As one of the few car owners in my group of friends, I'd regularly drive to Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool in my trusty old Ford Escort, often at night to avoid heavy traffic and police. I remember the winter weather, the pitch darkness and just seeing the odd lorry. If you saw a vehicle on the hard shoulder, you'd stop to check up on them and the next driver'd probably stop too.
      This is my favourite motorway secrets video yet!
      👁 👁
      👄

    • @SiRhodesDriverTraining
      @SiRhodesDriverTraining ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can still see the cats eyes on the old scammonden access road down that steep hill.

    • @PenisMcWhirtar
      @PenisMcWhirtar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One more memory - ears popping when you hit up and down the hill - especially if you hit 100 mph!

  • @mharris7380
    @mharris7380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "And I feel like the man who lives, on that farm which sits, in the middle of the M62. I thought it would be alright, now I can't sleep at night. Some things you can not undo."
    John Shuttleworth - The Man Who Lives on the M62

    • @mrmojosrisen7514
      @mrmojosrisen7514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As soon as this popped up I thought of that song and that's the main reason I watched cos I thought that would be the tune to use.

    • @Smelter57
      @Smelter57 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/unogHKb2KTw/w-d-xo.html

  • @jamesharman647
    @jamesharman647 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    a lot of the secret junctions that are supposed to be used by emergency services are often gated and locked shut. i came to this unfortunate realisation a couple weeks back on the A1M while on blues and had to drive an extra 3 miles to the next junction to turn around and head back to the same junction as it only had one set of actual sliproads and the gated “secret sliproad.” slightly annoying.

    • @Jimbo-gi7xn
      @Jimbo-gi7xn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I was a recovery driver I was given a set of master keys for those gates, why on earth do blue light drivers not have them?

  • @jamesbecki8104
    @jamesbecki8104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you pop down into Rishworth / Ripponden for a pint? The Booth Wood inn is a great little pub, just near the Booth Wood Reservoir. I know all my local dams and overflows :)

  • @Ashworth-Media
    @Ashworth-Media ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey when are you doing the M65, it has strange junctions, a mini version of the bridge on the m62 near Huddersfield, and also the steepest climb on on motorway in the country.

  • @chillybrit2334
    @chillybrit2334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I must surely be AI hallucinating in my network being a mere 2023 AI chat experiment.... but I am sure all these secrets of the motorway videos contain some form of "they planned this, built most of it at great expense, then cancelled it. Left it a few years, started again with a slightly different plan, built most of it at great expense, then cancelled it".
    I must have misread something along the way as it makes no logical sense, my teachers know better so it cannot be the case that my understanding is correct.
    Please help me.

  • @robertaskin3386
    @robertaskin3386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disappointed you missed out RAF Burtonwood, could have linked it with the bomber crash site near Glossop in the penines. But still, great video

  • @guymansfield-smith1135
    @guymansfield-smith1135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoy your programs. Although we do feel the need to use the 0.75x playback speed!

  • @ITFNBiteBayKon
    @ITFNBiteBayKon ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the first time I'm answering this, as normally, I don't have good weeks, but you know what, I actually have had a good week! Things are looking up in the life of Baykon!
    Thank you for your videos, I've massively enjoyed this series. hope you've had a good week too!

    • @grindelston5968
      @grindelston5968 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why, what's up?
      Maybe things will get even better for you, don't give up mate.

  • @colinlees3820
    @colinlees3820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my part of the world. I spent several years commuting on the M62 and M60. In part 2 are you going to cover the tunnel under the motorway that is just to the east of Scammonden dam?

  • @ivegotabike1957
    @ivegotabike1957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Burtonwood Services is very close to the old Buttonwood Aerodrome which is now warehouses. The carriageway of the M62 used to cross the old runway. Used to love looking down it and at the old hangers as a kid.

  • @rdouthwaite
    @rdouthwaite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pleased your covering it the correct way, leaving Lancashire towards the promised land...

  • @mfranssens
    @mfranssens ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the tale of a humble farmer battling for the rights to this tiny strip of land forever.
    But, it’s not true!
    Am I obligated to tell those people I bored with this story over the years?
    I told them him & his dog chased off government inspectors. He was a local hero.

  • @redwez1982
    @redwez1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch why too much TH-cam so I feel I’m qualified to say that you’re a very talented video making guy

  • @datprawn4850
    @datprawn4850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before reaching Junction 22 eastbound, you will find border pillars with white rose for Yorkshire, and if westbound, red rose for Lancashire, before it became Greater Manchester.

  • @chrisarmitage5713
    @chrisarmitage5713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the closing drone shot up at Buckstones. Pretty sure I noticed you being enthralled by the view for a few moments before realise the drone was on it's way ;)

  • @merseyviking
    @merseyviking ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's great to see how @AutoShenanigans, the master, baits @RingwayManchester so expertly.

  • @Dan23_7
    @Dan23_7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought “that’s not true, it’s to do with the land”
    It’s a great story though
    “Grumpy farmer threatens JCBs with a collie dog” 🤦🏼‍♂️😂
    Another of my favourite motorways this. Weirdly I don’t mind heading east on it but coming back west bound it seems everyone forgets how to use a motorway.
    Anyway, thanks John for another splendid episode.

  • @andypughtube
    @andypughtube ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Also... Splitting the carriageways at the farm allowed both sides to be shallow up and steeper down, which probably helped the weedy little trucks of the 60s.
    My dad used to tell tales of seeing apparently empty flatbed trucks belonging to "Amalgamated Lead" struggling up the hill out of Brighouse.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can get quite a bit of speed on that bit. It's not uncommon to see cars whizzing at near 90mph thanks to gravity. If you don't want to go that fast you generally have to gently apply the brakes even if you were only doing 70 before.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently empty ? did they have some kind of contraband inside the frames ?

    • @andypughtube
      @andypughtube ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@highpath4776 It's just that 30 tons (or so) of lead is only a few inches thick when spread evenly across the load bed.

    • @chriswalford4161
      @chriswalford4161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@highpath4776: a low cargo of rolls of lead concealed below the truck sides weighs a very great deal - looks like nothing, but the motor feels it. It’s lead. It’s heavy. Some of it may be on your roof, too.

  • @jackfry136
    @jackfry136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed a landmark just after junction 7 the dream amazing views, great for the drone. The dream.

  • @julieaylward7033
    @julieaylward7033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder how many junctions on the M62 are still in "as built" condition....

  • @stuarthamilton679
    @stuarthamilton679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how much that properties value changed after being surrouned by motorway!

  • @eddiejones.redvees
    @eddiejones.redvees ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The M62 was construction for use rugby league sports so we could get to each other’s grounds quickly

  • @evnflr187
    @evnflr187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will say that the M62 song by little comets is also a bop, which is a surprising for a song about a hundred mile long car park

  • @sk1nzsk1nz34
    @sk1nzsk1nz34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stott Hall farm is known as The Little House on The Prairie between us great big fat hairy lorry drivers.

  • @andypepper1983
    @andypepper1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So drove this section on the M62 a few weeks ago to pickup my sister from Manchester Airport at night. Why do they not fix the street lighting on the Manchester side. Around Leeds all nice bright LEDs. They have slowly been been burning out for year looks of it 😅

  • @ianhandforth5672
    @ianhandforth5672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if they wanted to build on farm they would just get a compulsive purchase order

  • @grandpaandlucas7054
    @grandpaandlucas7054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my father worked on the first stretch of the 62 for macs. the carriage ways were split because the ground couldn't support the weight of the carriage ways side by side. my dad they worked 16hrs a day 7 days a week to try and get it done because winter would have be job stopped be cause of the water. My dad said it was the worst condition he had ever worked in.

  • @MartinvonBargen
    @MartinvonBargen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you're ever bored to death, there's some great old skool documentaries on the building of the M62 and the odd tune that you could play in't background as you watch:
    th-cam.com/video/unogHKb2KTw/w-d-xo.html
    Great vid as usual. I've passed that farm more times than I'd care to mention.

  • @ezza2x899
    @ezza2x899 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Being waiting for this episode! Travelled the the m62 for years since my childhood and now weekly as an adult! Curious how much I’ve missed on my travels

  • @street-level
    @street-level ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ruddy great wall at 7:54 is not at Stott Hall Farm, it is Booth Wood Reservoir dam. 🤣

  • @ashleylightfoot85
    @ashleylightfoot85 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad used to drive past that mast on his way in to work in Manchester. One day, he asked when did they put that mast up? He was told it's been there for years and is normally hidden by the weather

  • @AsianDrag0n
    @AsianDrag0n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching ur vids for a little made me realize something. The UK's "freeway" system was built around already in place infrastructure and is thus not as optimized as it could be. Whereas the US' freeway system was built as a sort of base for the future infrastructure and is concludingly more optimized than its UK counterpart. I may not be 100% correct about that, but I think I'm mostly correct.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct, we slot infrastructure around things and most of it (railways for example) is so old all we do is constantly fix it and it never works properly.

  • @hoggmotorsport
    @hoggmotorsport ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good one Jon 👍 I wish I'd had a pound for every time I'd passed "little house on the prairie" 🤣

  • @tinytonymaloney7832
    @tinytonymaloney7832 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does the farmer get across the motorway? Bridge or tunnel, or has he been trapped there since?

  • @kiwiSTV
    @kiwiSTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another point about Burtonwood services, it’s here that the M62 is actually built on top of a runway of the former Burtonwood Airbase. There’s much to say about this ginormous airbase, of which hardly anything survives under housing developments. (Although the American street names hint to its past as a USAF airfield.)

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, as you say, hardly anything survives.

  • @chrislecouteur2360
    @chrislecouteur2360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That farm is better know as the ..... Little House on the Prairie ... as the locals call it lol 😆 😆

    • @hoggmotorsport
      @hoggmotorsport ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just the locals mate, it's well known as that by the HGV driver community too 👍

    • @bigveganal
      @bigveganal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hoggmotorsport And pretty much anyone who has travelled that section more than once 👍

  • @johnlewan1114
    @johnlewan1114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best outros on TH-cam. And you have coolest name to boot. Top notch, keep it up!

  • @Clivestravelandtrains
    @Clivestravelandtrains ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a train enthusiast I stumbled across this video, not realising there are motorway enthusiasts too! Enjoyed it, thanks, although I was trying to guess the name of the station next to the motorway in one of your aerial shots.

  • @apb3251
    @apb3251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The service stations used to be identical and noticeably looked like a wigwam

  • @spamviking
    @spamviking ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me sad seeing those disused railway tunnels and bridges that'll never see another train again.

  • @GazC
    @GazC ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm surprised there was no mention of the M62 being built on RAF Burtonwoods runway. The plan was apparently to use the motorway as a runway if the cold war turned hot. You will notice that there are no lights along this stretch.

  • @nfj72
    @nfj72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing to do with the farm and within that refuse to move it's the way the land is one side bigger than the other

  • @ulazygit
    @ulazygit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The episode I was waiting for … thanks Jon for a brief but fascinating insight into part of a motorway I used to use regularly whilst running my own company back when I lived in the UK (travel from Leeds to Manchester and occasionally Nottingham/Manchester via Leeds …) Stott Hall farm was always fascinating to me - I thought the Farmer had pissed the MoT off so they’d split the motorway around his farm house as punishment …
    In spite of the stability issues, any thoughts if this could be a reason? After all, why wasn’t the farm bought anyway, or at least relocated the farm buildings (built new) else where?

    • @bear.chills
      @bear.chills ปีที่แล้ว

      They is actually a documentary on it

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One day, in the future this little spot of land will be very valuable for a unique motorway services and advertising spot.

    • @matthewmitchell6899
      @matthewmitchell6899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point. I'm surprised there's not adverts already in the fields of the farm. There's plenty of other farmers who rent out the side of a strategically placed truck for advertising - I can think of several on the M6 in Staffordshire and Cheshire.

  • @49cchris
    @49cchris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sunday's just roll round fast since watching your channel your speeding my life up, with all your mot knowledge lol 🤔😳

  • @frogandspanner
    @frogandspanner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:16 Near Eccles Interchange is Bluebottle Bridge.