What is crazy is that it was announced that Adrian Newey was leaving RB earlier this year and BOOM RB is sliding back into the clutches of the next tier teams.
But whenever McLaren and Mercedes bring upgrades, they gain performance . On the other hand , the Red Bulls upgrade at Hungary didn't work . RB20 was 0.240 sec per lap slower than RB19 at the Hungarian GP 💀 .
Not representative. Max spent most of Hungary 2024 in dirty air/chasing down Hamilton and Leclerc, not leading every lap in clean air like Hungary 2023.
My theory is that they've been caught with their hands in the cookie jar. While it's true the field has compressed, the knife-edge and often regressive performance steps indicates something's changed. The car's not only 'slow', the unrivaled balance has disappeared. That said, mclaren's step forward has been unmatched in f1 history.
The thing is the RB isn’t a slow car, the start of the season showed that, but the change is that there is finally other cars on the grid that can catch up and even outpace, in the case of Mclaren on some tracks, with the Mercedes and Ferrari just behind too. I think you’re right and they just aren’t ready for stiff competition because behind the doors they have become complacent.
@@sleepyumiThat’s not what they said exactly. They said they believe it’s a combination of better competition and some impropriety was found and Red Bull had to remove something from their car. I do agree with OP. It’s probably a bit of both.
@@sleepyumino that’s not it! Redbull has taken a massive step back, the field behind RedBull has compressed and redbull has gone backwards giving the illusion of this so called “convergence”
@@muntublackson4757 well the RB20 has a very narrow operating window but when it gets there it is definitely the fastest car on the grid, Mclaren have made a better allrounder car, Ferrari have a bouncing issue but still 3rd in the points and Mercedes have a decent 4th place car. But the gaps between those 4 are small.
I hate when they ban innovations: McLaren Brakesteer, Renault’s FRIC, Mercedes DAS, and now Redbull Brakesteer, again- but modern version. Only difference is McLaren, Renault, Mercedes lost little to nothing in performance compared to what Redbull have done. If Max pulls another few wins out of it between now and end of season, respect cos Checo sure as shit won’t.
They are baning it (teams voteing to ban), because the team what already have that can keep the advantage, even if they spend 1 million to make their own version of that in the future, the team what already have that can spend that 1 million on another thing what keeps the distant between them.. Sure it's a lame thing to ban those ideas what help them to drive more safetly, but they only have chance to catch up, if they can eliminaze the difference, instead of keeping it.
I wish we could get some clarity from the FIA for once and say yes they did something or no they did not. This sport is far too opaque. You should at least know if a team was caught cheating or not.
With all this happening to Red Bull goes to show how Mercedes managed to stay competitive even after not being on top and losing several top people. Great video btw keep it up
Bruh I'm an LH fan, but I lowkey feel bad for Max. Dude is in a sinking ship. RB don't seem stable at all. And there's no news, no executive actions...nothing.
Max might be going to Mercedes or a team on the rise. Lewis might be smart to go to Ferrari now. Especially if Ferrari comes out with a better car next year.
Well it's simple this is the first year since 2021 that James Allison back and also that in 2021, cost cap breech was always going to have a lasting benefit. Red bull has lost 122 personal since February according to LinkedIn. The worse part is Red bull being slower than 2023, without regulation change is impressive none the less
James Allison being able to turn the Mercedes ship around in just one year is ridiculous. Red Bull were slower in race pace in 2023 compared to 2024, but that can also be attributed to traffic vs clean air. Also upgrades not correlating well. That RB19 really was something tho
I mean James Allison is only at Mercedes. And I'm pretty sure that them listening to Lewis's input finally also played a factor. But other teams also caught up too fast.
Come on, the second Newey left they lost their advantage, obviously his input toward set up on weekends was massive compared to what we’ve been lead to believe. The literal race he left they dropped off, it’s a no brainer. And it’s clearly set up related because they cant run properly on kerbs
Few years ago, Newey moved to other projects and RB was struggling (it was during the time when they were sponsored by Aston Martin). He came back and they were flying again. So you might be right and he might more important than RB is willing to admit.
honestly i think if a more experienced/mature driver was in that McLaren we would be having a championship battle… it might still happen (doubt it though).
Put a Lewis, Fernando, or even a Leclerc I’d back. Those guys have the minerals to go up against Max. Oscar will soon I think. Lando has shown he makes too many mistakes and doesn’t cope with pressure well. Against Max, you simply can’t afford to crack.
Asymmetric braking across the axial is tantamount to break steering which was described in other terms as a car which was " Sharp and pointy ". This is what the FIA found on inspection of the RB car, ordered it removed and the issuance of the necessary changes to the TD. Now Verstappen's advantage has evaporated. The contact between Verstappen and Hamilton normally would not have occurred as with asymmetric breaking, the car would have break steered making the corner in typical Verstappen dive boming and even under extreme braking, only the right front would grab. In Hungary, the RB car no longer have this capability, if it had it would have steered into the apec of the right hand curb but instead, both or all wheels locked sending the car skating in a straight line, hence the contact. Now we know about the asymmetric breaking braking on the RB CAR the question is: 1 Is the FIA just finding out about this asymmetric breaking in 2024? 2 Is the RB car pointy handling any different from previous cars in 2021, 2022 or 2023 and did the FIA not see any evidence of this on inspection of earlier RB CARS?
Very good question. It would seem that any rules enforcement organization worth its name would have it worked out to be able to detect violations of any of the rules they set. There certainly enough available people in the fields of science relating the matter. And what kind of rules enforcement organization set a rules and then write a reiteration of the rule , and the call that reiteration a clarification?
My conspiracy theory is the person who leaked the horner chats might have leaked the system to a rival ot the FIA. Being serious, I think this team is done in the long term. There is no going back, too much brain drain happening. Crazy how all this could have been prevented by horner controlling his finger and Max firing his dad.
I really don’t understand why Max keeps his dad around. I mean I guess it’s hard to get rid of someone you’re close to like that. But Jos really doesn’t do Max any favours by constantly interfering and causing tension within the team.
@@BMPHF1Yep. Guys like Lewis and Nico got rid of their dads in management and they were nowhere near what Jos is doing. Hopefully Max realizes this and separates family and business.
I'ts pretty obvious what happened Adrian Newey the greatest force in F1 history wherever he goes championships quickly follow. his designs have won more than 200 Grands Prix. winning twelve Constructors' Championships with three different Formula One teams, and with seven different drivers winning thirteen Drivers' Championships driving Newey's designs.
No-one stays dominant perpetually in any sport. The other teams will always improve their designs as McLaren have shown. All of these cars are not slow, a few tenths is miniscule but over a 50 lap race that guarantees to look dominant. Look at Williams this year, they are finally improving after a whopping chunk of invested cash. Adrian Newey is still building the 2026 RB as contracted and he isn't the kind of guy who gets personal or sly. Adrian has built championship winning cars, but also many years without a RB win for drivers or constructors. He will be designing the 2026 car for AM so he doesn't need to worry if the RB next year beats the AM's. I think RB's turmoil with Helmut, Christian and Jos was a powder keg ready to blow. Adrian is a quiet guy who loves to build without drama around him, that is why he decided to end the collaboration with RB. Lawrence offered him a deal no sane human would ever say no to. Shares in Aston Martin as well as a few £'s for his pockets. I believe it is a little higher than minimum wage.
4:49 WTF no way, not sure who informed you about this but that isn't a rule change just a regulation clarification and also it was because of Red bull's complaints which were targetted at McLaren. And no it doesn't help in corners, just helps in better tyre temperature control
Apologies if my wording was a bit off. Yeah it’s a clarification as you say, not a change. And yeah by corner performance, I was using an umbrella term for being able to brake later, control tyre temps more easily, etc. etc.
My only reservation of the idea that the Red Bull is just so hard to control etc. Is Perez doesn't talk about it much. In fact in Azerbaijan he was having a fantastic race (as always there) he wasn't complaining even when he was in the worse of the two red bull's and was 2 places behind where he wanted to be. Yet at the same time Max was acting like he's jumped into a clown car bu accident and it was falling apart around him.
Goddamn BMPH... 9:15 channeling your inner RPM mate? Alot strays fired in this video. HAHAHA Jokes aside at the beginning of the year RB did somehow convey the message that they made an blunder with they concept getting Mercedes W11 vibes... Ngl its wild that alot senior figures have left RB in the recent years its a problem with top teams the cost cap mostly likely accelerated it with probability of many factors the passing of Dietrich Mateschitz, power struggle between the austrian and thailand counterparts with Horner right in the middle at the wrong time and the massive unknown of the newly established RBPT. If max ends up at Mercedes next year then Redbull would have started a trend of 4 time champion exits. Highly unlikely but then again when Mika Häkkinen said that Mclaren would be championship material many laughed and now its a possible reality very similar to David Coulthard on sky sports predicting Vettel as the next champion ages ago.
First of all, RPM is GOATED. So damn funny. Had to match a bit of that energy haha. Secondly, I agree with every point you made. There’s a lot more to get into with Red Bull’s brain drain and general power struggle amongst the higher-ups. Saving that for another one IF Max leaves 😉 McLaren are serious. Give them a bit more experience to finish off this season, learn from mistakes, and next year, I think they’ll be favourites. I’m thinking Oscar will be a dark horse too
It’s ok, Team Max don’t need anyone, Max (aka the GOAT) can drive both cars to 1,2 finishes, while Christ(ian) himself can be his race engineer and entire pit crew! They’re fine!
@@louisbeerreviews8964 I would say Senna, unfortunate he passed so young, but, meh! However, Max got credited for Masi’s championship in ‘21 and he’s got another two with massive questions behind the car’s performance, so, yeah, Max is clearly the greatest driver in the universe!
That’s it, it’s because of the car, max keeps complaining, shows that he can’t do well if his car isn’t the best car, and the RB20 isn’t that bad, it’s still pretty good (Not supporting max)
gotta say one thing. a myth is widely believed about f1. media loves to sell this as a hope aswell. "field will converge towards the end of regulations." this is impossible. 2021 was close only fia kept changing the regs before and finally took a big chunk out of the floor for 2021. nice video tho. cheers
Thanks for the compliment. The 2021 regs were very different to these current ground effect cars. I think most teams have hit the performance ceiling with them which is why they say “the field is closing up”. It didn’t seem that way in 2021 since that was more of Mercedes being disadvantaged than their only other challenger (Red Bull) getting closer.
Well that Video aged like fine Milk 😂😂 Turns out they made a mistake and didnt listen to Perez. Lets hope Newey doesnt do a mistake at Aston Martin and wee Alonso at the top step again.
0:57 disliked. Anyone who says jos verstappen is right is part of the problem. Jos verstappen is a useless waste of space at the paddock. He does not add anything to redbull or F1. He is only there because his son is Max Verstappen. Funny you never see Anthony hamilton behaving like this even though Mercedes had 2 years of struggles and did not prioritize lewis over russell the way redbull prioritized max over perez. And on top of adding nothing to the team he picks fights with the Man who put this team together and why? over horner flirting with a woman. I am surprised horner hasn't banned jos from the redbull garage yet. Also the fact that some team members left does not mean he was right. It could be that he is the reason they are leaving. This is like short sellers on wallstreet engineering a downfall of a company's stock even though the company is financially healthy. If the stock falls in that case then it does not mean they were right they engineered the downfall by causing trouble for the team same way jos is doing right now. Jos has not cooked or made a great point.
@@WuRuYi No. I am saying the reason those guys left does not necessarily mean he was right. They could have left because of him and the drama he started
I don't think I like you attacking Jos that way. Jos is a man of principle. 1:43 Jos doesn't want to see a guy out there flirting with women, Jos doesn't flirt with women, he beats them...there a big difference, you know.
Red Bull asymmetric breaking system may have adopted or implemented by other team that is why they are on top already, nobody knows until FIA will intervene and check or scrutinise.
Yeah it was a double-entendre. Crofty was clever with it. He “trumped” Verstappen by beating him as you say. But also the specific use of the word “trump” was also a reference to Donald Trump who was there with McLaren that weekend. I got too geeked explaining that 😭
@@BMPHF1 nah that's cool geek away. I didn't see it live (my hiatus after Abu Dhabi 21) and I never figured DJ Trump to be at one of those races in a million years. 😊👍
It's the brake symmetrical system that's been stopped. The RB made most gains in the braking.zones and Max could dive bomb and have the confidence to do so. After the FIA issued the statement banning this system, the performance dropped away and the drivers don't have the confidence any longer. We saw this recently when Max dive bombed Lewis, locking up and going off as well. The FIA will not state that they caught RB cheating cause it will show that the FIA were asleep at the wheel
RB time has run out and it is time to move on as it was for Vettel when he was winning all the championships......but this is formula one and the pattern is there.
So many and I mean many issues and many factors on the team side, Adrian, drivers being play like tic tac toe, drama that lasts a years. No 2011-13 wasn’t the same. The internet quite literally expedited the process with no real way of pin pointing the actual issues. Was it Jos? Was it Adrian? Was it Horner? Was sponsors? Was Marko? Was driver lineups being on hold? I don’t know really
The real reason is that the FIA have finally made sure the Red Bull is legal, just like with Ferrari a few years ago! Just ridiculous it took them so long
I have always disliked Wheatly but I guess he was a big deal leaving Red Bull seeing how disorganized they seem to be now after he advertised his leave. Adrian Newey leaving does not help either but I think people within the team have greater impact on the team than an engineer. Seeing Red Bull struggling is and will be really interesting to follow. Especially seeing the "drama" over the radio in recent races. I think they will recover in the end and still be a top team. Also for some reason I feel Mclarens pace is just periodically like Mercedes and Ferrari will catch up very soon.
Missed some point. Mclaren had been cheating with the opening in the brake ducts. Add that and the flexibility in the wings that Mclaren and Merc added, then things are adding up.
Do some people think this kind of dominance is a good thing. I still consider F1 to be the pinnacle of motorsport and automotive technology, but I haven't watched a race on TV for over twenty years. Guess when it started. Sure, I'm generally up to date and watch highlights and other interesting stuff but never live.
I honestly think everything has been going downhill since Adrian's Newey exit, i even told my mom how red bull might start losing performance because he is leaving, seem like that is right
There is no suchs thing as "the spirit of the regulations" in F1. Its either in the rules (technical manual) or its legal. (period) Thats been F1 since the beginning.
There’s too much talk of these two “ Legends “ leaving RedBull, and way much hype over their achievements/expertise in producing the best car every year in F1, and that it’ll be carried over to whatever team they’re transferring to. Fact of the matter is, Redbull had only been dominant for a couple of years recently, do we just call it that way? Meaning, from late 2000’s when Mercedes was at the top, these two had got nothing to do with why they always fall second place, 3rd most of time? What a foolish take on Horner that after these two leaves redfull would fail? I don’t know, i’m more confidient in having Horner than these two combined i feel. So yeah!
So quickly? They literally had no competition in 22 and 23, and right now although max didn't win the past few races, he still has 7 race wins vs lewis who has the second most at 2 ☠️☠️☠️ it's literally no competition again, yea sure perez doesn't bring results but that might mean that redbull only works on Max's car because they are not that far ahead and prioritize him, which is normal. But to say that the dominance end quickly when this dude literally won 41 races in not even 3 full season jesus
Can you guys stop whining about Massi "breaking the rules" and Max's "shenanigans"? Hamilton shouldn't even have started where he did during the last race of 2021, and he was also allowed to cut through the track with no penalty. They would never let Max do this. Monza was a racing incident where either driver could have, but was not obliged to yield. And don't get me started on Silverstone.
Easy they been caught cheating again, they had illegal parts on the car at the start of the season got told to remove them but no disqualification against them
Idk.. but I remember watching some of the first seasons of drive to survive. And man redbull seemed like the most toxic/salty team on the grid.. maybe years of acting like that have finally caught up to them.
To take 'Drive to Survive' as a source for real F1'facts..I can tell you for sure..that's the worst 'info'source' to get facts from. Not meaning to offend you in any way, plss don't get me wrong, but even several of the F1'drivers say the same. Showing footage of a totally different circuit at specific topics, for instance. But also many more soap'like 'facts'. It's more about creating sensation..(not sure if that's the right way to put it. English isn't my 1'st language, so pls forgive me if that didn't come out as intended.. 😉) If I were you I wouldn't take info from Drive to Survive ' too serious. Just saying.. 🏎🏁❤️✌️
@@absolutelycarmen i don’t take the info seriously.. but just by the looks of things and even from media sources red-bull seems very toxic.. they have been for years
The rb20 from Bahrain would be even slower than the current one, the other teams have genuinely caught up. Red bull have brought upgrades but it didn't bring a huge performance jump, but it's still slightly faster than the one from bahrain
You are chasing ghosts. The limited and staggered development time was written into the rules to provide this exact scenario. The idea was to let slower teams catch up with faster teams. McLaren copied the red bull, learnt all its tricks from Marshall, and then simply used their extra wind tunnel time to go faster. Nothing to do with anything else.
Simple. It didn't. If you have the faintest clue about F1, you would know RB have not "suddenly" lost pace. Still on the podium: Every. Single.Race. Perez has always been quick, but people are judging RB based on what Verstappen achieves. Without MV, the RB is a top 5 car, and always has been. But not a consistent race winner. A team/car beating you is often due to that teams improvements, not a loss in performance in your own team. Margins in 2024 are incredibly tight, so don't be surprised if Ferrari or Mercedes, or even another team suddenly appear at the front of the grid. Look no further than Mercedes and LH for proof of that.
That's because a whole lot of people are really dizzy. They will complete miss the key, obvious, point, bar in from the reasoning entirely, then base argument after argument with complete conviction with that massive whole in the reasoning.
What is crazy is that it was announced that Adrian Newey was leaving RB earlier this year and BOOM RB is sliding back into the clutches of the next tier teams.
I think you're right, the problem is in the garage, politics
But whenever McLaren and Mercedes bring upgrades, they gain performance . On the other hand , the Red Bulls upgrade at Hungary didn't work . RB20 was 0.240 sec per lap slower than RB19 at the Hungarian GP 💀 .
Wait seriously, like bring back the RB19 if that's the case o.0
Not representative. Max spent most of Hungary 2024 in dirty air/chasing down Hamilton and Leclerc, not leading every lap in clean air like Hungary 2023.
@@jamespoole3531 But you have to admit he was nowhere near the McLarens . They were in another league .
@@Megumi44-vm6fnpiastri you mean?
@@antiwokehuman Yeah
My theory is that they've been caught with their hands in the cookie jar. While it's true the field has compressed, the knife-edge and often regressive performance steps indicates something's changed. The car's not only 'slow', the unrivaled balance has disappeared. That said, mclaren's step forward has been unmatched in f1 history.
Mclaren is doing something illegal.
The thing is the RB isn’t a slow car, the start of the season showed that, but the change is that there is finally other cars on the grid that can catch up and even outpace, in the case of Mclaren on some tracks, with the Mercedes and Ferrari just behind too.
I think you’re right and they just aren’t ready for stiff competition because behind the doors they have become complacent.
@@sleepyumiThat’s not what they said exactly. They said they believe it’s a combination of better competition and some impropriety was found and Red Bull had to remove something from their car. I do agree with OP. It’s probably a bit of both.
@@sleepyumino that’s not it!
Redbull has taken a massive step back, the field behind RedBull has compressed and redbull has gone backwards giving the illusion of this so called “convergence”
@@muntublackson4757 well the RB20 has a very narrow operating window but when it gets there it is definitely the fastest car on the grid, Mclaren have made a better allrounder car, Ferrari have a bouncing issue but still 3rd in the points and Mercedes have a decent 4th place car. But the gaps between those 4 are small.
I hate when they ban innovations: McLaren Brakesteer, Renault’s FRIC, Mercedes DAS, and now Redbull Brakesteer, again- but modern version. Only difference is McLaren, Renault, Mercedes lost little to nothing in performance compared to what Redbull have done.
If Max pulls another few wins out of it between now and end of season, respect cos Checo sure as shit won’t.
For sure. If Red Bull end up losing even more performance and Max still wins races… DAMN!
They are baning it (teams voteing to ban), because the team what already have that can keep the advantage, even if they spend 1 million to make their own version of that in the future, the team what already have that can spend that 1 million on another thing what keeps the distant between them..
Sure it's a lame thing to ban those ideas what help them to drive more safetly, but they only have chance to catch up, if they can eliminaze the difference, instead of keeping it.
Hold on, Mercedes likely could have won in 2021 with DAS in the Driver’s Championship, they also had party mode banned too.
I wish we could get some clarity from the FIA for once and say yes they did something or no they did not. This sport is far too opaque. You should at least know if a team was caught cheating or not.
It always seems as though everything is dealt with under the rug and there’s no transparency as you say.
With all this happening to Red Bull goes to show how Mercedes managed to stay competitive even after not being on top and losing several top people. Great video btw keep it up
Thank you! For sure. Merc’s ability to stay on top was impressive. Tbf there was no cost cap at that time.
@@BMPHF1one could argue that redbull dominated for so long because of the cost cap
One could also argue that Mercedes dominated for so long because there was no cost cap
@@CristianoRonaldo-uq2nl Nope that was down to Renault messing up
@@CristianoRonaldo-uq2nl classic German strat
Dude called Russell a war criminal hahahaha
Shout-out RPM 🫡
Osama Bin Russel
Why tho?
Bruh I'm an LH fan, but I lowkey feel bad for Max. Dude is in a sinking ship. RB don't seem stable at all. And there's no news, no executive actions...nothing.
Max might be going to Mercedes or a team on the rise. Lewis might be smart to go to Ferrari now. Especially if Ferrari comes out with a better car next year.
I'm sure RB has plenty of money in the catering budget to improve the cars performance.
it doesn’t matter when you cant spend over the budget cap
😂😂
@@muharem7910 You can, you just get fined the difference and a few ticks of aero development time knocked off.
perez used it all up crashing his cars
Well it's simple this is the first year since 2021 that James Allison back and also that in 2021, cost cap breech was always going to have a lasting benefit.
Red bull has lost 122 personal since February according to LinkedIn.
The worse part is Red bull being slower than 2023, without regulation change is impressive none the less
James Allison being able to turn the Mercedes ship around in just one year is ridiculous. Red Bull were slower in race pace in 2023 compared to 2024, but that can also be attributed to traffic vs clean air. Also upgrades not correlating well. That RB19 really was something tho
I mean James Allison is only at Mercedes. And I'm pretty sure that them listening to Lewis's input finally also played a factor. But other teams also caught up too fast.
Come on, the second Newey left they lost their advantage, obviously his input toward set up on weekends was massive compared to what we’ve been lead to believe. The literal race he left they dropped off, it’s a no brainer. And it’s clearly set up related because they cant run properly on kerbs
Few years ago, Newey moved to other projects and RB was struggling (it was during the time when they were sponsored by Aston Martin). He came back and they were flying again. So you might be right and he might more important than RB is willing to admit.
@@eTengu there we go then 🤝🏼
Yes literally the second he left they have dropped to 3rd maybe 4th best car
newey hadn't left yet. rob marshal left and went to mclaren coincidence?
honestly i think if a more experienced/mature driver was in that McLaren we would be having a championship battle… it might still happen (doubt it though).
Put a Lewis, Fernando, or even a Leclerc I’d back. Those guys have the minerals to go up against Max. Oscar will soon I think. Lando has shown he makes too many mistakes and doesn’t cope with pressure well. Against Max, you simply can’t afford to crack.
@@BMPHF1if this championship was next year I’d honestly think you’d be crazy to not bet on an Oscar WDC
Brake torque is the torque of town.
Now it's gonna break the Internet
Remember when Lewis was talking about the mclaren being able to break so late
U mean redbull 😂
@@PlanetHumzaNo he said it to Lando once , after which Lando lost his cool & said to Hamilton that ge also took advantage when merc was fast.
9:15 bro called George a War Criminal 😂😂😂😂
My favorite driver btw😂
Shout-out to George still 😂😭
Drive to survive gonna be fire w the Redbull civil war
Thank God you make videos again
Haha. Not going anywhere :)
@@BMPHF1 better not bru it was a shambles last year😭 where were you at
I think McLaren can get the constructors this year but verstappen should get the championship
Asymmetric braking across the axial is tantamount to break steering which was described in other terms as a car which was " Sharp and pointy ". This is what the FIA found on inspection of the RB car, ordered it removed and the issuance of the necessary changes to the TD.
Now Verstappen's advantage has evaporated. The contact between Verstappen and Hamilton normally would not have occurred as with asymmetric breaking, the car would have break steered making the corner in typical Verstappen dive boming and even under extreme braking, only the right front would grab. In Hungary, the RB car no longer have this capability, if it had it would have steered into the apec of the right hand curb but instead, both or all wheels locked sending the car skating in a straight line, hence the contact.
Now we know about the asymmetric breaking braking on the RB CAR the question is:
1 Is the FIA just finding out about this asymmetric breaking in 2024?
2 Is the RB car pointy handling any different from previous cars in 2021, 2022 or 2023 and did the FIA not see any evidence of this on inspection of earlier RB CARS?
Very good question. It would seem that any rules enforcement organization worth its name would have it worked out to be able to detect violations of any of the rules they set. There certainly enough available people in the fields of science relating the matter.
And what kind of rules enforcement organization set a rules and then write a reiteration of the rule , and the call that reiteration a clarification?
Can we agree the FIA are incompetent
Nice theory
My conspiracy theory is the person who leaked the horner chats might have leaked the system to a rival ot the FIA.
Being serious, I think this team is done in the long term. There is no going back, too much brain drain happening. Crazy how all this could have been prevented by horner controlling his finger and Max firing his dad.
I really don’t understand why Max keeps his dad around. I mean I guess it’s hard to get rid of someone you’re close to like that. But Jos really doesn’t do Max any favours by constantly interfering and causing tension within the team.
@@BMPHF1Yep. Guys like Lewis and Nico got rid of their dads in management and they were nowhere near what Jos is doing. Hopefully Max realizes this and separates family and business.
I'ts pretty obvious what happened Adrian Newey the greatest force in F1 history wherever he goes championships quickly follow.
his designs have won more than 200 Grands Prix. winning twelve Constructors' Championships with three different Formula One teams, and with seven different drivers winning thirteen Drivers' Championships driving Newey's designs.
No-one stays dominant perpetually in any sport. The other teams will always improve their designs as McLaren have shown. All of these cars are not slow, a few tenths is miniscule but over a 50 lap race that guarantees to look dominant. Look at Williams this year, they are finally improving after a whopping chunk of invested cash.
Adrian Newey is still building the 2026 RB as contracted and he isn't the kind of guy who gets personal or sly. Adrian has built championship winning cars, but also many years without a RB win for drivers or constructors. He will be designing the 2026 car for AM so he doesn't need to worry if the RB next year beats the AM's.
I think RB's turmoil with Helmut, Christian and Jos was a powder keg ready to blow. Adrian is a quiet guy who loves to build without drama around him, that is why he decided to end the collaboration with RB. Lawrence offered him a deal no sane human would ever say no to. Shares in Aston Martin as well as a few £'s for his pockets. I believe it is a little higher than minimum wage.
I really love your channel bro.Gives me Josh Revell vibes
Thank you. Josh is great guy!
The team got too comfortable and lagged on the tuning 🤷🏻♂️
4:49 WTF no way, not sure who informed you about this but that isn't a rule change just a regulation clarification and also it was because of Red bull's complaints which were targetted at McLaren. And no it doesn't help in corners, just helps in better tyre temperature control
Apologies if my wording was a bit off. Yeah it’s a clarification as you say, not a change. And yeah by corner performance, I was using an umbrella term for being able to brake later, control tyre temps more easily, etc. etc.
And gives an estimated 0.5 secs per lap advantage
This video is informative and funny at the same time😂
They didn't evolve last year car they came with a New concept and the other teams are going in the direction of last year's( RB) dominant car
My only reservation of the idea that the Red Bull is just so hard to control etc. Is Perez doesn't talk about it much. In fact in Azerbaijan he was having a fantastic race (as always there) he wasn't complaining even when he was in the worse of the two red bull's and was 2 places behind where he wanted to be. Yet at the same time Max was acting like he's jumped into a clown car bu accident and it was falling apart around him.
Goddamn BMPH... 9:15 channeling your inner RPM mate? Alot strays fired in this video. HAHAHA
Jokes aside at the beginning of the year RB did somehow convey the message that they made an blunder with they concept getting Mercedes W11 vibes... Ngl its wild that alot senior figures have left RB in the recent years its a problem with top teams the cost cap mostly likely accelerated it with probability of many factors the passing of Dietrich Mateschitz, power struggle between the austrian and thailand counterparts with Horner right in the middle at the wrong time and the massive unknown of the newly established RBPT.
If max ends up at Mercedes next year then Redbull would have started a trend of 4 time champion exits. Highly unlikely but then again when Mika Häkkinen said that Mclaren would be championship material many laughed and now its a possible reality very similar to David Coulthard on sky sports predicting Vettel as the next champion ages ago.
First of all, RPM is GOATED. So damn funny. Had to match a bit of that energy haha.
Secondly, I agree with every point you made. There’s a lot more to get into with Red Bull’s brain drain and general power struggle amongst the higher-ups. Saving that for another one IF Max leaves 😉
McLaren are serious. Give them a bit more experience to finish off this season, learn from mistakes, and next year, I think they’ll be favourites. I’m thinking Oscar will be a dark horse too
I wouldn’t say it’s falling apart but the but the supports are cracking
For sure cracks are starting to appear
What helped Max in Imola is it is only 1 overtaking spot and even that is hard
It’s ok, Team Max don’t need anyone, Max (aka the GOAT) can drive both cars to 1,2 finishes, while Christ(ian) himself can be his race engineer and entire pit crew! They’re fine!
Lewis is the goat not max 😂😂😂😂😂
@@louisbeerreviews8964 I would say Senna, unfortunate he passed so young, but, meh! However, Max got credited for Masi’s championship in ‘21 and he’s got another two with massive questions behind the car’s performance, so, yeah, Max is clearly the greatest driver in the universe!
@@patriot-dv6dhthis is exactly why Max and RB fans have lost there absolute effing mind!!! Max isn't in the same stratosphere as Lewis!!! Chill bruh
That’s it, it’s because of the car, max keeps complaining, shows that he can’t do well if his car isn’t the best car, and the RB20 isn’t that bad, it’s still pretty good (Not supporting max)
Mate, the car understeers like a yacht on dry land. And if anyone has won multiple races with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th car it's Max.
'unless your favorite team is ferrari' has got me burst in laughing 😂😂
gotta say one thing. a myth is widely believed about f1. media loves to sell this as a hope aswell.
"field will converge towards the end of regulations."
this is impossible. 2021 was close only fia kept changing the regs before and finally took a big chunk out of the floor for 2021.
nice video tho. cheers
Thanks for the compliment. The 2021 regs were very different to these current ground effect cars. I think most teams have hit the performance ceiling with them which is why they say “the field is closing up”. It didn’t seem that way in 2021 since that was more of Mercedes being disadvantaged than their only other challenger (Red Bull) getting closer.
Well that Video aged like fine Milk 😂😂
Turns out they made a mistake and didnt listen to Perez.
Lets hope Newey doesnt do a mistake at Aston Martin and wee Alonso at the top step again.
Last year Marko was saying Max could win in Hass this year Redbul is about 2 tenths behind McLaren and Max suddenly can't win
+78 points
He literally is extending the Wdc lead in the 2nd fastest car
Tbh i dont even think he has the 2nd fastest car anymore,think mercedes is faster now to.
@@marvinkoenen3771lol
@@themammoth67 yeah most of that from the first 6 races
0:57 disliked. Anyone who says jos verstappen is right is part of the problem. Jos verstappen is a useless waste of space at the paddock. He does not add anything to redbull or F1. He is only there because his son is Max Verstappen. Funny you never see Anthony hamilton behaving like this even though Mercedes had 2 years of struggles and did not prioritize lewis over russell the way redbull prioritized max over perez. And on top of adding nothing to the team he picks fights with the Man who put this team together and why? over horner flirting with a woman. I am surprised horner hasn't banned jos from the redbull garage yet. Also the fact that some team members left does not mean he was right. It could be that he is the reason they are leaving. This is like short sellers on wallstreet engineering a downfall of a company's stock even though the company is financially healthy. If the stock falls in that case then it does not mean they were right they engineered the downfall by causing trouble for the team same way jos is doing right now. Jos has not cooked or made a great point.
... are you genuinely trying to say the reason RedBull are losing talent is because of Jos Verstappen? We all dislike the guy, but come on.
@@WuRuYi No. I am saying the reason those guys left does not necessarily mean he was right. They could have left because of him and the drama he started
I don't think I like you attacking Jos that way. Jos is a man of principle. 1:43 Jos doesn't want to see a guy out there flirting with women, Jos doesn't flirt with women, he beats them...there a big difference, you know.
Looks like Adrian Newey signed with Aston according to Autosprint
Red Bull asymmetric breaking system may have adopted or implemented by other team that is why they are on top already, nobody knows until FIA will intervene and check or scrutinise.
4:01 no no. "Trumps" in this case refers overpowering or overrule. Like they say in using a trump card.
Yeah it was a double-entendre. Crofty was clever with it. He “trumped” Verstappen by beating him as you say. But also the specific use of the word “trump” was also a reference to Donald Trump who was there with McLaren that weekend.
I got too geeked explaining that 😭
@@BMPHF1 nah that's cool geek away. I didn't see it live (my hiatus after Abu Dhabi 21) and I never figured DJ Trump to be at one of those races in a million years. 😊👍
It's the brake symmetrical system that's been stopped. The RB made most gains in the braking.zones and Max could dive bomb and have the confidence to do so. After the FIA issued the statement banning this system, the performance dropped away and the drivers don't have the confidence any longer. We saw this recently when Max dive bombed Lewis, locking up and going off as well. The FIA will not state that they caught RB cheating cause it will show that the FIA were asleep at the wheel
Ferrari 2019 behind the scene me think!
Facts Red Bull had an illegal car
RB time has run out and it is time to move on as it was for Vettel when he was winning all the championships......but this is formula one and the pattern is there.
So many and I mean many issues and many factors on the team side, Adrian, drivers being play like tic tac toe, drama that lasts a years.
No 2011-13 wasn’t the same.
The internet quite literally expedited the process with no real way of pin pointing the actual issues.
Was it Jos? Was it Adrian? Was it Horner? Was sponsors? Was Marko? Was driver lineups being on hold?
I don’t know really
yeah now i can feel that RB did fall off quite a bit
Noris getting so offended from hamilton saying how fast his car was. Makes more sense now and they must be doing some new loophole
The real reason is that the FIA have finally made sure the Red Bull is legal, just like with Ferrari a few years ago! Just ridiculous it took them so long
About time, it's not Maxbull is Redbull,
Breaking Cheat was turned off...
I have always disliked Wheatly but I guess he was a big deal leaving Red Bull seeing how disorganized they seem to be now after he advertised his leave. Adrian Newey leaving does not help either but I think people within the team have greater impact on the team than an engineer. Seeing Red Bull struggling is and will be really interesting to follow. Especially seeing the "drama" over the radio in recent races. I think they will recover in the end and still be a top team. Also for some reason I feel Mclarens pace is just periodically like Mercedes and Ferrari will catch up very soon.
Missed some point. Mclaren had been cheating with the opening in the brake ducts. Add that and the flexibility in the wings that Mclaren and Merc added, then things are adding up.
someone said adrian newey took the whole aerodynamic department with him when he quit lmao
Its easy, Adrian Newey clocked off!
classic case of the man who build his house on sand…
Red Bull will come with updates and it might be a good idea for they are not good enough right now
Liberty told them to step on the breaks.
It's a business.
RB next year will fight with the middle teams...
Not sure why Merc didn't go after MV hard when he looks unsettled
4:03 Oh god, I forgot how bad that was 💀
Do some people think this kind of dominance is a good thing. I still consider F1 to be the pinnacle of motorsport and automotive technology, but I haven't watched a race on TV for over twenty years. Guess when it started. Sure, I'm generally up to date and watch highlights and other interesting stuff but never live.
They decided to follow the rulebook until the smoke clears.
Why would you say why are you banning innovation when it's illegal and they other team are not innovating in that direction cuz it is illegal
They simply took a Brake from winning 😂 like in the days of zoom off and coast at the end with Webber and vettel
Newey.... Period
I honestly think everything has been going downhill since Adrian's Newey exit, i even told my mom how red bull might start losing performance because he is leaving, seem like that is right
It lasted more than 3 years!!
There is no suchs thing as "the spirit of the regulations" in F1. Its either in the rules (technical manual) or its legal. (period) Thats been F1 since the beginning.
Take away their valved brake bias and VER complains about understeer.
There’s too much talk of these two “ Legends “ leaving RedBull, and way much hype over their achievements/expertise in producing the best car every year in F1, and that it’ll be carried over to whatever team they’re transferring to. Fact of the matter is, Redbull had only been dominant for a couple of years recently, do we just call it that way? Meaning, from late 2000’s when Mercedes was at the top, these two had got nothing to do with why they always fall second place, 3rd most of time? What a foolish take on Horner that after these two leaves redfull would fail? I don’t know, i’m more confidient in having Horner than these two combined i feel. So yeah!
all of rb's car development budget went into repairing perez's car instead 😂
No more brake torque magic 😂
So quickly? They literally had no competition in 22 and 23, and right now although max didn't win the past few races, he still has 7 race wins vs lewis who has the second most at 2 ☠️☠️☠️ it's literally no competition again, yea sure perez doesn't bring results but that might mean that redbull only works on Max's car because they are not that far ahead and prioritize him, which is normal.
But to say that the dominance end quickly when this dude literally won 41 races in not even 3 full season jesus
Have to be the Horner files
Mén, F1 is complex this season)))
Can you guys stop whining about Massi "breaking the rules" and Max's "shenanigans"? Hamilton shouldn't even have started where he did during the last race of 2021, and he was also allowed to cut through the track with no penalty. They would never let Max do this. Monza was a racing incident where either driver could have, but was not obliged to yield. And don't get me started on Silverstone.
So don't say, it's not the driver, it's the car?
Busted.
Max will joint Aston Martin.
toto best dream🎉
its all feeling a bit rigged to me. Interesting about illegal car parts tho
It also shows that it's the car not the driver even though Max is a good driver any good driver could do wonders in that car last year
Easy they been caught cheating again, they had illegal parts on the car at the start of the season got told to remove them but no disqualification against them
Idk.. but I remember watching some of the first seasons of drive to survive. And man redbull seemed like the most toxic/salty team on the grid.. maybe years of acting like that have finally caught up to them.
To take 'Drive to Survive' as a source for real F1'facts..I can tell you for sure..that's the worst 'info'source' to get facts from. Not meaning to offend you in any way, plss don't get me wrong, but even several of the F1'drivers say the same. Showing footage of a totally different circuit at specific topics, for instance. But also many more soap'like 'facts'. It's more about creating sensation..(not sure if that's the right way to put it. English isn't my 1'st language, so pls forgive me if that didn't come out as intended.. 😉) If I were you I wouldn't take info from Drive to Survive ' too serious. Just saying.. 🏎🏁❤️✌️
@@absolutelycarmen i don’t take the info seriously.. but just by the looks of things and even from media sources red-bull seems very toxic.. they have been for years
bro if you take drive to survive seriously than you have no idea
Red Bull stagnated while other teams caught up
Red bull will be back in 2026 with a all new driver lineup of tsunoda and Russell
a promotion in f1 is a quick way to end your career.
Jos Verstappen memes 🔥
So that is what Checo was doing, developing a FIA allowed car before Max got caught. Checo can't make miracles, Max can't either.
Forever? Its been a few races
Russell to red bull 2026🎉
Where TH did you dig up the bros come skit from???
Why don’t they just take the RB 20 from Bahrain and see if that works
That was the car that could still win by 30 seconds
The rb20 from Bahrain would be even slower than the current one, the other teams have genuinely caught up. Red bull have brought upgrades but it didn't bring a huge performance jump, but it's still slightly faster than the one from bahrain
Because of a big bag of money from FIA, to keep the sport enterntaining?
You are chasing ghosts. The limited and staggered development time was written into the rules to provide this exact scenario. The idea was to let slower teams catch up with faster teams. McLaren copied the red bull, learnt all its tricks from Marshall, and then simply used their extra wind tunnel time to go faster. Nothing to do with anything else.
Red Bull's car is illegal, there're caught with an illegal instrument on their car.
Max should go drive the Merc.
Not going to happen
They simply took a Brake from winning 😂
Simple. It didn't. If you have the faintest clue about F1, you would know RB have not "suddenly" lost pace. Still on the podium: Every. Single.Race. Perez has always been quick, but people are judging RB based on what Verstappen achieves. Without MV, the RB is a top 5 car, and always has been. But not a consistent race winner. A team/car beating you is often due to that teams improvements, not a loss in performance in your own team. Margins in 2024 are incredibly tight, so don't be surprised if Ferrari or Mercedes, or even another team suddenly appear at the front of the grid. Look no further than Mercedes and LH for proof of that.
There cheat got caught!! End of story,
That's because a whole lot of people are really dizzy. They will complete miss the key, obvious, point, bar in from the reasoning entirely, then base argument after argument with complete conviction with that massive whole in the reasoning.
Truly no brains here !!!!