Cyber Security Engineer vs Network Security Engineer
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Currently in school for cyber security and networking BAS. 26yrs old recently left my career of truck driving.
similar story trucking sucked sooo bad money was good but the lifestyle sucks
Your courage inspires me friend
In the same boat lol
Me too sir.👍 I just got interested 2weeks ago. Hope it’s worth it.
62 in a month and quit a janitor job to jump into Security. Built a lab and new workstation after twenty years of break/fix. Watched it all grow from ARPANET in 1967.
I look at Network Security as the Firewall guy or Firewall Specialist that deals with Network Security Appliances like Check Point, Pfsense, Cisco ASA, watchguard etc. Cyber Security is a broad field of specialties.
I am a network security engineer and you are right, we are the firewall guy lol
100% firewall and switching people
@@lorebringersdo you have any certs?
@@j.vosier6786 no I do not have. I am now a networking cloud engineer for one (if not) the biggest tech companies in the world :) 0 certs just work, after 10 months i've nailed the interview, awesome, totally recommend this domain
Hi dc, I'm working as a noc l2 engineer, how can I move to network security do I need to get any cert releated security or ccna will be enough?
CCNA should do it mate
I Would love to be In one of these roles! I’m doing a career change now.. from having a BBA in health management to now half way done with my associates degree for networking & cyber security and I’m planning on taking my security + before the end of this year. I really do not know what types of jobs I need to look for 😖 I was applying for help desk roles , or other lvl 1 roles but I can’t seem to find any luck cuz of my experience in health care. I’m hoping once I get my security + I’ll be able to apply to more places 🤞🏼
Eser Karma yes im currently a admin secretary for 2 departments. I will definitely look that up!
@@jenniferbrook1720 - You could say "taking care of the network equipment/monitoring tools....add whatever you learnt in the course and just fake"
@@intellectMind2024 I actually lied about a fake internship and landed me a high paying desktop support role. I start next month. Once I get my certs I will ask if I can internally apply for their engineer positions
@@jenniferbrook1720 Thank You Almighty, do your best in your Desktop Support role, but don't stop revising your Security concepts... Let's say after a year, you could update 'End point Security' Malware protection/Anti-virus' .. All this will again add value to your future security roles Goods Luck 🥰
@@intellectMind2024 yes I will not step off track! Thank you!
Network security engineers tend to deeply understand what they are installing and configuring right down to the packet level. This is usually born from an extensive background in networking. Typically they will have many years of experience (17 in my case!) They work with a very broad range of equipment, they are also a dying breed as it is not as 'sexy' nowadays, however the rarity of talent is driving contract rates up.
A cyber security engineer tends to be someone who has come across from some other career or from being an it generalist and works with siem or privilege access management. They spend time looking at alerts generated from the equipment the network security people have configured and generally work from (or help create) playbooks. Network security qualifications tend to be pragmatic and technical whereas cyber security qualifications tend to be fluffy, out of date buzzword laden qualifications such as CEH and cissp. Rather perversely these are valued more than the actual technical qualifications.
The way I see things going in the short to medium term is automation driving out the cyber security engineer. This is already evident in the newer generations of software on some of the forward thinking vendors platforms (fortinet with their security fabric for example) we can already trigger an automatic response for certain types of event - manual intervention will be required for some time however!
so what do you think its the best path to choose from? I do like network security but im skeptical of its future
There's a $95 an hour Network Security Engineer position that was just posted in my area and it is a low-cost area too lol.
started my career in call center -> tech support (supporting desktop -> HP server hardware) -> CCNA/CCNP routing switching -> Network Engineer --> now I got read-access to FortiGates (stepping into Network Security) ....Your session made me feel good and I will surely think about learning programming ...Thank You for inspiring people like me and lot of people who are still confused about this :)
How long did it take for you from call center to your current job?
I am lucky I got my first job as a firewall security engineer.. Love this path
College -> help desk -> infrastructure tech -> cloud architect
College was 3 years and been working for 5 years now
amazing content again mate! knowledge you deliver is top notch! keep it up lad!
Much appreciated!
Great vid DC !
I've always been a little interested in the difference in the two but never wanted to be THAT guy and ask. LOL.
Hahaha. If you never ask you’ll never know!
Network Security Engineer sounds more interesting and fun. I'm a Sysadmin and its fun at times, with my BS in IT minor Cybersecurity and also have my CompTIA Security+ cert. What certs would you recommend to help me more to meet the required skills for a Network Security Engineer?
A CCNA would get you there, especially with the experience you already have
The ccna bro
@@dccybersec which has less coding
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@@dccybersec which is good for someone who doesn’t like coding or math please let me know!!!!
Thanks for the great video - i just finished my ccnp security and my target stop is cyber security - all your examples of the skilled required are all the topic i was thinking of when labing for my two exams .
Great stuff.
Glad it was helpful!
Well spoken, articulate, and informative. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Would you recommend a network security administrator job as a good first step into cyber security? Would network security position fall in a category of a cyber security role?
Hell yes! That would be a great start
This what I’m doing
Hello, I am currently getting my degree in Cybersecurity engineering. I was wondering what can help me and how can I gather all the information, and if there is anything that will greatly prepare me/ give me more knowledge all around what would it be? And great videos keep up the good work!
Hey how is it going? Did you get your degree yet?
Thanks very much for the rich content, always had that issue of considering todays network sec and cyber sec as same job.
The pleasure is all my own mate! Thanks for watching
You can "learn Python" enough to write a port scanner in a few hours, and by that time you can convince yourself and your interviewer you can "read" Python, which is about all you're gonna be asked to do. If you can learn to read Python, you can read C+ and HTML to find port calls from malicious API's and you're a working analyst! Oh, and by the way, that's like doing math on paper, when you have a calculator or even a computer in front of you; they make software to "pentest" the malware they sent you in an email, Sherlock! You plug the gadget into the bug and record the results. "That's worth six figures? I can train a monkey to do that!"-HR The crux of the matter!
good explanation !! good going keep going.....your cat is very cute :)
Thank you and thank you! I’ll let her know haha 😂
Cyber security vs Information Security . Is there any difference? Please explain in details.
Info sec is just a basic, its like comparison of LAN against WAN terminalogy in networking
@@deas3016 Absolutely no difference between Cyber Security and/or Information Security. Exactly the same concepts and protection strategy. Just different nouns
Would love to hear how you transitioned from network security engineer to cyber security engineer
This video should help answer that for you - TLDR; accidentally
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Straight to point and simple to understand, thank you for sharing :)
Thanks for watching mate!
Hey DC, just getting into my first year of college and majoring in Cyber Security. If you could help me with information about how I can advance in the class faster so i don't be stuck along the way as well as any online websites that can advance me further into CS. I'm looking to get into forensics with the field :D but i really don't know any other fields of work like that
A bit confused on the college portion. Can i major in Computer science, get my bachelors and then choose to be in cyber security or network security or is there a major better for either?
Comp Sci all the way
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Hey DC am about to join a degree in cyber security and digital forensics at Middlesex university...can u check on the curriculum and advice me on it
Had a quick look (because you've subbed for over 8 months already!) and it checks out all good. Which electives are you thinking of choosing there?
@@dccybersec the electives are available only on the third year n I'll choose security and network forensics.
I've done certificate and diploma in IT, so I'm really thinking of having a direct entry to the second year, just hope I ain't gonna miss much things from the first year of the program.
Someone says CCNA, CCNP, CCIE in Routing-Switching might lose its popularity over the time in next few years, as the industry is shifting towards cloud, network virtualization (SDN/NFV). The Internet of Things (IoT) BIG today. This and Cloud infrastructure will make Security related courses very popular. Then what would i do? Go for ccna or having sdn?
Same confusion i hv
The cloud will never be as safe as the hardware itself, those things will never die
@@lorebringers the hardware aspect is fading out or at least will be reduced greatly with the cloud influx.
Welcome Back DC, thanks for the video!
Thanks man. More videos coming :)
Hi DC,
Thank you so much fot the information. I need some guidance from you. I would like to get exposure on both network security and cybersecurity. Currently I am working as network engineer. Which would be the best to learn first network security (CCNP+CCIE) or Cybersecurity?
CCNP Security first, as that will get you into network security straight away. Cybersecurity is an easy jump from there with experience
good video, good explanations plus cat content :-)
Hahaha, Glad you liked it!
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lol. Or dollarydoos?
Bro Telstra down due to cyber attack?
At first they said so, but then they changed the tune and said it was not a DDoS. Who know's what really happened I guess...
I have a Bachelors in computing and InfoSys, masters in Networking and Im doing grad diploma in security. what certs would you recommend if I wanna put my foot on the door towards becoming a network sec engineer?
A CCNA would honestly be the best starting cert for you to do. With your current qualifications, a well targeted resume would be highly beneficial for you with that CCNA on it
Appreciate mate... Was searching for long time
Thanks for watching!
In choosing between networking security and cyber security. What should I choose?
If it's the first job, I'd go network security as it's easier to get into. Depends where you're at in your journey mate
@@dccybersec i had just completed my +2 so now its time for me to choose my course and i'm in dilemma on choosing course between these twos
So you prefer choosing networking and security?
@@anishbasnet5950 go with network Security as someone who is a cyber Security expert MUST know networking
How to get into this field? I had no clue how to start in cyber security.
check his QnA video
First get degree certificate 😅
@Boris Erdogan It's worth it. Medical, law, accounting degrees, etc.... also cost alot of money & time but they're worth it most of the time
@@vasumudiraj3785 it's important huh? 🤔
@@ARZ10198 bang, di Indonesia jarang ya ada lowongan Cyber? kalau suatu perusahaan job requirementnya pengalaman kerja itu bagaimana ya?
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very good break down. I am currently a network sec engineer and you nailed it.
Thanks mate! NetSec is a sick job. Lowkey miss doing it
Hi DC,
Really information 💯 gain some knowledge in this what is what.
Thanks buddy !
To get a job as Network admin do you recommend a college degree or the Certificates and internships
Hard choice and it depends on where you’re from and if you have any other IT experience
Hey mate 😄 , hope you are doing great bigg FAN
I’m doing well mate how are you?
@@dccybersec our country (india) is trying to catch-up with America in the no of cases of corona patient's, but iam doing great
That’s not good to hear man. Stay safe out there
@@dccybersec sure thing 😊 looking forward to more videos from you
@John yes John doing great in India
Hi DC,
I have a bachelors in CS and currently working as a support engineer. Currently I have more than 2yrs of experience and have learned about linux, some basic security stuffs and many more. I'm planning to follow a 2yrs MSc in Cyber sec in Australia. What are the chances for me to enter the Cyber sec field after completing my MSc?
Will it be so difficult since I don't have a relevant career path?
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If you are that far in education with out years of hands on then they... companies will likely want you in management... get PMP CAPM Project+
@@greyhat1874 Thanks for the reply. As a support engineer I have worked a lot with security concerns and have a fair knowledge on analyzing ssl handshakes, tcp dumps, linux environment and more. Do I have a chance to enter cyber sec management level through those professional certificates (without a MSc)? I know the question sounds stupid..I just want to know the demand for professional certificates compared to uni degrees.
Cyber is more broad
Great 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
CCNA CYBER OPS vs CCNA SECURITY ? what is the difference and your recommandations :)
Quick question DC, do I need to know how to code for Network Security Eng?
Hey mate - nope, not really. Learning some python for configuration automation of nexus switches *could* be useful later down the line, but honestly, it's not very common. Hope this helps answer your question :)
@@dccybersec gotcha, thanks for the info.
hi bro, nice video 😃
i want to be a cyber security specialist, can you please help me 🥺
i have about 8.3 months of experience and i in class 10 😃😊
what are the official examination of network security? For eg.....CISSP for cyber security but confused for network security? can u please help me regarding on this? thank u so much.
Thanks for the video mate. Really useful info here.
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching :)
Very well explained 👌
Thank you 🙂
Hello everyone.can I study offensive security certifications or CCIE security if I want to have a good paid job in Cyber security?
Great content (Y)
Thanks mate!
I have the Security+, how will the CCNA help me in my IAM?
Just finished a cert iv in cyber sec.............next step is CCNA............. then apply for a real job.............any advice DC??
Keep going mate! With a CCNA you'll get hired soon enough
It makes me happy that you are still making videos.
More to come when I get more time to make them :)
Good Video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
honestly I would probably be that a**hole who would ask if I could use my Mac lol I prefer MacOS over windows.
lol. Some places are OK with that, but usually you just use whatever you're given
Awesome video thanks DC
Thanks mate!
What is the future of Firewall Engineer..
I am expert in firewall only..
I got 5 years of experience in firewalls
However there is limit of salary in firewall
Is this good time to change technology?
Tough question man, as there's no real shortage of firewall migrations or engineers required to do that job, but rather that role itself has been incorporated into jobs like, network security engineer or even just sysadmin/ network engineer roles. Perhaps now is a good time to focus on something similar to firewall engineering (like splunk), get skilled up in that area and use your vast experience to push ahead and stay ahead of the curve
i went from helpdesk to jr soc analyst to sr. analyst and now i have an opportunity to move to netsec engineer...it sounds like a great chance to get solid base and anchor for the future, since i skipped sysadmin/network roles, but i have thoughts if it makes more sense to try progress in different soc... the market kinda sucks atm though, at least in my geo.
I'd like to get into red team ops at some day, but thats more of a pipedream.
Is going netsec eng smart move?
I think it's a good step given the current job market turbulence!
Interesting comparison
Welcome Back
Thanks!
@@dccybersec I've been two weeks in as an Information Systems Security Engineer. I totally agree with how you broke it down. I work closely with the Sr Network Engineer and my small security team of three people. We break everything up and we all focus on our specific roles but work to complete everything together.
That’s exactly it! It’s always a team effort never a 1vs the world situation. Happy to hear you got a role!
@@dccybersec Thanks for sharing all your knowledge DC!
Really helpful video 🥰
Sir pls can you explain or make a video on NAT , NAT networking, Bridge network of VM Virtual box and how they are different...
I'm just confused about it....
Someone can use tor and cpn before they go into government building and use their personal computer on government wifi network? What do you do as cybersecurity engineer?
Possible but unlikely. Most government guest wifi's are heavily restricted.
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Always keep things at a layered approach.
Always!
My question is network security field is type of field work or not.
Depends on your location, I am a network security engineer and I work from home, mostly with Firewalls
who makes more money network or cyber security engineer ?
Pretty much the same to be honest
Hey DC i here from pakistan to get some advice from you ... I am a network security analyst and want to move my career in security auditor ... Can you tell me how much time i spend in my field and what are the strategies to get in there.
Brother I am going to enter in the field of Network security is it good and intersting orrrr should I move towards web developer
Contractors do get sick leave. I get a shit load of leave.
Do you get paid for it? I don't :(
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Hey mate as a beginneer where do you start what are the sites ? For learning cyber security ?
tryhackme.com is a great place to start. also overthewire.org is good to learn linux.
As for certifications, the comptia security+ is a good cert to get your foot in the door, but it may be a bit tricky if you're fresh to IT.
Everything was great
what about Network Engineer, Cybersecurity?
Still a network engineer, except that they also have cyber security engineer roles thrown in as well (split role job)
@@dccybersec thanks , sir!
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So it's basically blue teaming ?
These are both blue team specific roles yes.
I wonder what classes Snowden take because he was self taught least movie say that
A lot has changed since 2013 when he left, and even more since he started out.
Edward Snowden had a military background any may have gotten training while in the Military. He was a Systems Administrator for the NSA. Generally you start off at Help Desk as (Level 1) to Desktop Support Technician (Level 2) before becoming a Systems Administrator (Level 3). Sys Admin is a stepping stone into the role of a Security Systems Administrator.
Do you have a video on all the different job titles you have held and your experience with them?
Nope, but you can find all that information on my linkedin profile :)
@@dccybersec Do you have a link to your linkedin?
@@Keyumiz www.linkedin.com/in/dcdavidlee/
Thank you for this informative video!!! I am a student currently getting my bachelors in Networking/Security Engineering. I wanted to get my Masters in Cybersecurity and was wondering if this mix of Networking and Cybersecurity would be a good fit. Any advice or suggestions(I guess it the same-thing) would be greatly appreciated! Again, thanks for the Great Video!!!
Thanks mate, glad it was helpful!
A mix of the 2 is absolutely perfect 👌
I appreciate all the content you put out. My goal is to have the Network + and Sec + at the end of the year. I live in the states and there is a high demand for cyber security. Will I people able to find a job after my Sec+ or will have to do some type of help desk job role for a few years. I already make 50k+ a year and can’t afford (I have a kid) to take a job cut now. I’m hoping I can find a job that will give me experience plus with the same or more salary wise.
Any update?
Evening DC, Tim here from Australia.
Any tips for moving from level 2 Help Desk to Network Engineer, after getting CCNA and Security+?
Most Network Engineer jobs are asking for 5+ years xp. Do I need to get experience in a Network Admin role first? Can I start CCNP now or wait to get some experience in networking first?
I’m really keen to make use of the CCNA and continue studying. Ultimately I think I’d like to be in Security.
Thanks for your videos. I watch almost all of them.
Honestly, once you get the CCNA, start applying for network engineer roles. There’s heaps available all over Australia with all the international employees having had to go home
DC CyberSec cheers DC. I’ll market myself as best I can, I’ll keep studying (I love it), and I’ll follow your advice. Legend. 👊
@@dccybersec Do you think the same is true in the US? I have 2 years of expereience and its a mix of cloud admin and network engineering at lower levels; working on my ccna, should have it by end of next year.
Do you think going for a cybersec eng, vs netsec eng would be more of an overlap between these spaces (cloudsec and netsec), or a possible recommendation of career path? Specifically I've worked with AZ and o365, and my other job was programming ubiquiti switches setting up vlans and all that. (yeah i know, why ccna for ubiquiti switches, but i already started so might as well just get it)
I've come to really enjoy both kinds of working environments.
Thank you for the advice !
Glad it was helpful!
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great info but could go without the cheeseball music
fair point lol
What about Anti-DDOS Appliances , Fireeye NX Appliances , software blade & Dedicated IPS, Proxy, WAF, Sand-boxing? Hope these fall on part of network security engineer.
These are definitely part of both roles actually. All under the "Next Generation Firewall" banner
This has really opened my eyes. I plan on doing a rotation in Network security for my traineeship, I hope i like it but i feel more informed from this video.
Thankyou!
Go for it!
Network security engineers definitely do not do anything on servers. We do not "test" system vulnerabilities. We dont touch or do anything that has the word "server" in it ever.
Unless it’s about linking ldap or some other form of sso or certificate from a server to a firewall, or setting up the nic security of a virtual host (and the servers that sit under it), or….
The list goes on. Maybe you don’t do it in your role, but many people HAVE while working as network security engineers.