Hey Randy, glad you are enjoying it. I've got two more videos to make to complete the series, and I intend to make those in the next couple of weeks. Austin is a great town. I split my time between Sydney (where I am now) and Austin (where I'll be in Feb). Great riding in the Hill country.
Hey, great mini series about the Navigator, thanks for sharing! I assume that GPX saved from Rever in the "Track - static line" version will work as well with the BMW Motorrad App? Do you know?
G'day Brent. I'm really enjoying your videos. Do you know if Rever is good for Australia. I live in Melbourne and want to do some off road high country rides. Cheers Steve
Hey Steve If you want to do offroad planning in Australia, then I highly recommend Gaia... it has all the topo maps in it.... there is a free version, but the subscription is cheap, and it's great for route planning on dirt, and then exporting tracks etc.
@@brentbat that's brilliant info. I've been procrastinating for ages as I had no idea. Thanks very much and thanks for your videos. They are always top quality and really enjoyable 😉👌
@@stephenchampion2439 If you get Gaia, watch some of the tutorials on the web version of it... and once you learn the basics it's super powerful.... Gaia also recently bought in 3D map visualisation which is amazing... especially for planning offroad rides, you can visualise the route incredibly well.
@@brentbat you are brilliant. I have downloaded the basic version on my phone and it is exactly what I was looking for. I will download the subscription service on the computer. Once I have planned my route etc, do you just use Garmin Base Camp to upload it to your GPS? Thanks in advance. Steve
@@stephenchampion2439 Yes, you got it. When you create routes on the computer in Gaia, it automatically syncs to the Gaia mobile app. For navigation you can just follow the track automatically on the Gaia mobile app, but if you prefer turn-by-turn (which I do), then you export the track from Gaia, and import it into Basecamp and then trace it to build your route. Then you send the route to your Nav6 and it will navigate you through the course.
Excellent series of videos. My problem is that Basecamp is so unstable it just crashes on loading - so I am looking for a way to upload the gpx file directly to my nav 6 - any ideas?
Hey Tim, sorry to hear about your crashes.... it's funny Basecamp is rock solid for me in terms of not crashing. The only other way that I believe you can get routes and tracks onto your Nav 6 would be by transferring them onto a micro SD card. I haven't tried this so I can't offer any first-hand advice, but try googling this or asking in Nav 6 facebook group.
Hey Rick, Because tracks are "fixed".... routes are calculations between waypoints, and I just don't trust apps to create routes for me. I prefer to download the track (which I know is 100% accurate) and then construct the route myself in Basecamp over the top of the track to ensure it's correct. It takes a little extra time, but then I'm confident that my turn-by-turn routes are behaving properly. I also choose to display the track on the map as well. If you watch one of my later tutorials where I'm riding the route, you'll see why the tracks still become very useful if you have to detour etc.
@Brent Pearson I should have come back. Two videos later you explain. I'm on my second replay. Between Basecamp and the NAV VI itself....I'm about ready to just give up. I miss mapsource so bad. Unfortunately Garmin is trying to throw every activity into one basket that works for everyone. It just doesn't work that well. Thanks for the response!
Hi Brent, very useful videos, good job. I recently took out a rever subscription - I agree with your comments about route planning in basecamp! I wondered if anyone has had problems importing the rever gpx file into basecamp? (and maybe a solution). The import mechanism can't open the file. (I followed the same procedure in your video to create the gpx file). Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks
Hey Mark, if you want to send me one of your files to my email address, I'll take a look at it for you brentbat@gmail.com. I haven't had any problems ingesting Rever files.
Hi Niels There two reasons why I go the track route. 1) I didn't want anybody who had other nav units thinking they couldn't use Rever. 2) but the main reason is that when I bring it in using the BMW option it brings it in as a Route. And the route only has two waypoints... start and finish. I find this a prone to confusion when I'm riding the route as the nav might use it's own calculation methods and take me a different way. I find the much safer way is to export it as a track. A track is a track and it never changes, so that is my reference. Then I manually build the route to mirror the track. When I am doing a ride, I display the track AND I navigate the route that I have built. Now this might be a bit redundant, and if all goes well I never even see the track because the route is navigating over the top of it. But if I do a diversion, or something gets screwy, then I ALWAYS have that reference track displayed on my Nav, and I find that very reassuring. There is nothing worse than being confused by the Nav when you are on a trip.
@@brentbat thanks for the honest response, I use www.myrouteapp.com for my route making, i think you should explore this route as well ( in my opinion, this is a verry good platform. Even the free version ;) keep up the good work!
I was just wondering how I can upload my tracks on to the Nav 6 without using basecamp... I think i can just paste the routes on the device in windows explorer ?
@@nielsvangucht1410 Hey Niels, Yes, I think it would be possible.. the Nav mounts as a virtual hard disk.... You could also try putting an SD card in it as well if you can't drag to the main unit. I guess my question is why don't you like using Basecamp for the transfer?
Hi Brent. Just watched your first 2 very well done videos after having purchased a Nav VI for my 2018 R1200RS. I downloaded Basecamp but find it's only available in 32 bit form. My OS (Mac - OS11) requires 64 bit. Any suggestions?
Alan, I am running OS10 and it runs fine ,but I haven't upgraded to OS11. That is interesting if they say Basecamp won't run. I might try updating one of my Mac's and giving it a try. but I have no immediate advice I'm sorry. Surely Garmin will support OS11.
@@brentbat Well, I finally sussed out a use for my 10 year old Mac! It runs OS X, so once I clear out the cruft and tune it up I should be able to use Basecamp. I do hope Garmin updates their app to 64 bit soon. Looking forward to watching your videos and learning.
Hi Brent. Great videos. I am using Rever, the basic version, and when I go to download the GPX file it simply opens a new tab asking me to subscribe and pay for Pro. Does this mean it only works if you pay the subscription? PS I live in the UK. Thanks
Hi Brent, I'm in process of planning a trip to Moab, UT this year and have been watching your videos as Ive the same bike and nav 6. I've been trying to use the Rever app as you suggest and slowly getting more used to it. However, I am wondering why you chose this app when you say it's so much like Google maps. Why not just use Google? I'm relatively new to this and somewhat of an analog guy in a digital world so if my questions seem dumb it's for a good reason:) Thanks for looking, Dave S
Hey David, thanks for your question. It's definitely not a dumb one. There are three reasons why I significantly prefer Rever over Google Maps for planning. 1) Butler motorcycle map information. As you live in the USA, if you pay the small subscription to upgrade to the Pro version of Rever, then you get access to the Butler motorcycle map information. This means that all the good routes are color coded Yellow for G1 (the best), Red (G2), and Orange (G3). So when you are planning your routes, you can see a bunch of smaller roads that are amazing to ride on that you would miss if you were using Google Maps. 2) Route Planning mechanics are easier with Rever. You can extend the route as you go by adding new waypoints, or easily move or delete the waypoints that you have added. Once you get used to Rever you will find it much more flexible to use than Google's routes. 3) Community Routes - You can bring up other peoples routes in Rever which can inspire you on your route planning. I hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions you have. I'm happy to help.
@@brentbat Thanks so much for your reply Brent and im becoming a little more comfortable with Rever. There are some quirks however, such as "paved roads". What's up with that.....wouldn't that be "all roads" that are not off road? Confusing nomenclature to me.🤔
@@davidsharpe9408 Yes, there are definitely some quirks (like any software), but once you plan a few routes through Rever, I think you'll really like it for the reasons I have outlined. Moab is an amazing place.... Enjoy your ride. What an epic location.
Interesting, but unfortunately there does not appear to be a "free" option anymore. I can create and save a route but trying to download the gpx file sends me to payment options so it's a pass for me. I find the Nav VI to be a cumbersome piece of junk and wish I never bought it....Is the second time I got suckered by the Garmin/BMW connection to fill the space on the dash/mount. Never again.
Hey Dan, you could check out Gaia, it's a pretty good route planning tool. I do subscribe to Rever and find it to be worth it for the graded roads and also the 3D maps.
Hey Dan, you could check out Gaia, it's a pretty good route planning tool. I do subscribe to Rever and find it to be worth it for the graded roads and also the 3D maps.
Yeah I heard that. I am using GaiaGPS now for my offroad planning, I've got a whole updated playlist on how I do my adv route planning if yo uare interested.
Hey Friend i live in Brazil and REVER has no info on roads whatsoever in South America , so this system will only work on USA and Europe. Best Regards P
@@PlinioProfeta ... Oh I see... you mean the Butler graded motorcycle roads. Yes, unfortunately these aren't everywhere, Good in USA, looks like they are building out Europe, but they don't have them in Australia either.
Yeah, I made this a couple of years ago, and since then they have changed their licensing. however, the license fee is pretty cheap, and if you live somewhere where they have the Butler maps, then it is definitely worth it. If not, there are other tools for route planning like GaiaGPS (which is what I use in Australia).
@@BMWLDRider If you buy a subscription to the Butler maps, then the roads are graded... so even the tarmac roads are graded in terms of motorcycle enjoyment. Look at the above video at the 2min mark.
@@ScragNath Yeah, I hear you. The US tend to bastardise a lot of stuff... spelling, date formats etc :-). I split my time between Texas and Sydney and I'm constantly trying to educate the Yanks ;-)
I spent HOURS today, trying to plan an off road and on road trip with basecamp, I was getting very frustrated. Thank you so much. You saved my sanity.
Glad to help.
If you are interested in gps geeky stuff I recently created a whole new series of tutorials on my channel.
Thanks Brent, and btw, your video instructions are first rate and ive certainly learned more on them than the tutorials by Rever:)
Thanks for this series on the Nav 6. Imagine my surprise when I see that you also live in Austin!
Hey Randy, glad you are enjoying it. I've got two more videos to make to complete the series, and I intend to make those in the next couple of weeks. Austin is a great town. I split my time between Sydney (where I am now) and Austin (where I'll be in Feb). Great riding in the Hill country.
I'm in Round Rock!
Hello Brent. Great educational video for us newbies. Thanks for doing this. 👍🏼👍🏼
So helpful bro!
Im on the central coast of ca.
Going to TUK in july and this might help.
Amazing serie of videos !! Thanks so much Brent !
Excellent content- thanks for sharing this info.
Hey, great mini series about the Navigator, thanks for sharing! I assume that GPX saved from Rever in the "Track - static line" version will work as well with the BMW Motorrad App? Do you know?
Hey there, I don't have the BMW Motorrad app, but if it has the capability of loading gpx files, then it will work for sure.
G'day Brent. I'm really enjoying your videos. Do you know if Rever is good for Australia. I live in Melbourne and want to do some off road high country rides. Cheers Steve
Hey Steve
If you want to do offroad planning in Australia, then I highly recommend Gaia... it has all the topo maps in it.... there is a free version, but the subscription is cheap, and it's great for route planning on dirt, and then exporting tracks etc.
@@brentbat that's brilliant info. I've been procrastinating for ages as I had no idea. Thanks very much and thanks for your videos. They are always top quality and really enjoyable 😉👌
@@stephenchampion2439 If you get Gaia, watch some of the tutorials on the web version of it... and once you learn the basics it's super powerful.... Gaia also recently bought in 3D map visualisation which is amazing... especially for planning offroad rides, you can visualise the route incredibly well.
@@brentbat you are brilliant. I have downloaded the basic version on my phone and it is exactly what I was looking for. I will download the subscription service on the computer. Once I have planned my route etc, do you just use Garmin Base Camp to upload it to your GPS? Thanks in advance. Steve
@@stephenchampion2439 Yes, you got it. When you create routes on the computer in Gaia, it automatically syncs to the Gaia mobile app. For navigation you can just follow the track automatically on the Gaia mobile app, but if you prefer turn-by-turn (which I do), then you export the track from Gaia, and import it into Basecamp and then trace it to build your route. Then you send the route to your Nav6 and it will navigate you through the course.
Excellent series of videos. My problem is that Basecamp is so unstable it just crashes on loading - so I am looking for a way to upload the gpx file directly to my nav 6 - any ideas?
Hey Tim, sorry to hear about your crashes.... it's funny Basecamp is rock solid for me in terms of not crashing. The only other way that I believe you can get routes and tracks onto your Nav 6 would be by transferring them onto a micro SD card. I haven't tried this so I can't offer any first-hand advice, but try googling this or asking in Nav 6 facebook group.
Good Morning. Why do you choose track vs route for the download?
Thanks
Hey Rick, Because tracks are "fixed".... routes are calculations between waypoints, and I just don't trust apps to create routes for me. I prefer to download the track (which I know is 100% accurate) and then construct the route myself in Basecamp over the top of the track to ensure it's correct. It takes a little extra time, but then I'm confident that my turn-by-turn routes are behaving properly. I also choose to display the track on the map as well. If you watch one of my later tutorials where I'm riding the route, you'll see why the tracks still become very useful if you have to detour etc.
@Brent Pearson I should have come back. Two videos later you explain. I'm on my second replay. Between Basecamp and the NAV VI itself....I'm about ready to just give up. I miss mapsource so bad. Unfortunately Garmin is trying to throw every activity into one basket that works for everyone. It just doesn't work that well.
Thanks for the response!
Hi Brent, very useful videos, good job. I recently took out a rever subscription - I agree with your comments about route planning in basecamp! I wondered if anyone has had problems importing the rever gpx file into basecamp? (and maybe a solution). The import mechanism can't open the file. (I followed the same procedure in your video to create the gpx file). Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks
Hey Mark, if you want to send me one of your files to my email address, I'll take a look at it for you brentbat@gmail.com. I haven't had any problems ingesting Rever files.
Hi, great vid ! I wonder, when you export the route, why dont you use the BMW button ?
Hi Niels
There two reasons why I go the track route.
1) I didn't want anybody who had other nav units thinking they couldn't use Rever.
2) but the main reason is that when I bring it in using the BMW option it brings it in as a Route. And the route only has two waypoints... start and finish. I find this a prone to confusion when I'm riding the route as the nav might use it's own calculation methods and take me a different way.
I find the much safer way is to export it as a track. A track is a track and it never changes, so that is my reference. Then I manually build the route to mirror the track.
When I am doing a ride, I display the track AND I navigate the route that I have built. Now this might be a bit redundant, and if all goes well I never even see the track because the route is navigating over the top of it. But if I do a diversion, or something gets screwy, then I ALWAYS have that reference track displayed on my Nav, and I find that very reassuring. There is nothing worse than being confused by the Nav when you are on a trip.
If you are not sure how to display tracks, give me a holler.
@@brentbat thanks for the honest response, I use www.myrouteapp.com for my route making, i think you should explore this route as well ( in my opinion, this is a verry good platform. Even the free version ;) keep up the good work!
I was just wondering how I can upload my tracks on to the Nav 6 without using basecamp... I think i can just paste the routes on the device in windows explorer ?
@@nielsvangucht1410 Hey Niels, Yes, I think it would be possible.. the Nav mounts as a virtual hard disk.... You could also try putting an SD card in it as well if you can't drag to the main unit. I guess my question is why don't you like using Basecamp for the transfer?
Hi Brent. Just watched your first 2 very well done videos after having purchased a Nav VI for my 2018 R1200RS. I downloaded Basecamp but find it's only available in 32 bit form. My OS (Mac - OS11) requires 64 bit. Any suggestions?
Alan, I am running OS10 and it runs fine ,but I haven't upgraded to OS11. That is interesting if they say Basecamp won't run. I might try updating one of my Mac's and giving it a try. but I have no immediate advice I'm sorry. Surely Garmin will support OS11.
@@brentbat Well, I finally sussed out a use for my 10 year old Mac! It runs OS X, so once I clear out the cruft and tune it up I should be able to use Basecamp. I do hope Garmin updates their app to 64 bit soon. Looking forward to watching your videos and learning.
Wait are you actually from Texas? I am assume originally Aussie?
No, I'm an Aussie, but I spend a lot of my time in Austin.
Hi Brent. Great videos. I am using Rever, the basic version, and when I go to download the GPX file it simply opens a new tab asking me to subscribe and pay for Pro. Does this mean it only works if you pay the subscription? PS I live in the UK. Thanks
Hey Mark, Yes, I think they have changed it and now you have to subscribe to export the gpx file.
@@brentbat thanks Brent. Really enjoying the videos and the sat nav series is terrific. Thanks for getting back to me. Cheers. UK Mark
Hi Brent,
I'm in process of planning a trip to Moab, UT this year and have been watching your videos as Ive the same bike and nav 6. I've been trying to use the Rever app as you suggest and slowly getting more used to it. However, I am wondering why you chose this app when you say it's so much like Google maps. Why not just use Google? I'm relatively new to this and somewhat of an analog guy in a digital world so if my questions seem dumb it's for a good reason:)
Thanks for looking,
Dave S
Hey David, thanks for your question. It's definitely not a dumb one. There are three reasons why I significantly prefer Rever over Google Maps for planning.
1) Butler motorcycle map information. As you live in the USA, if you pay the small subscription to upgrade to the Pro version of Rever, then you get access to the Butler motorcycle map information. This means that all the good routes are color coded Yellow for G1 (the best), Red (G2), and Orange (G3). So when you are planning your routes, you can see a bunch of smaller roads that are amazing to ride on that you would miss if you were using Google Maps.
2) Route Planning mechanics are easier with Rever. You can extend the route as you go by adding new waypoints, or easily move or delete the waypoints that you have added. Once you get used to Rever you will find it much more flexible to use than Google's routes.
3) Community Routes - You can bring up other peoples routes in Rever which can inspire you on your route planning.
I hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions you have. I'm happy to help.
@@brentbat
Thanks so much for your reply Brent and im becoming a little more comfortable with Rever. There are some quirks however, such as "paved roads". What's up with that.....wouldn't that be "all roads" that are not off road? Confusing nomenclature to me.🤔
@@davidsharpe9408 Yes, there are definitely some quirks (like any software), but once you plan a few routes through Rever, I think you'll really like it for the reasons I have outlined. Moab is an amazing place.... Enjoy your ride. What an epic location.
Already confused by the rever and Basecamp terms
Interesting, but unfortunately there does not appear to be a "free" option anymore. I can create and save a route but trying to download the gpx file sends me to payment options so it's a pass for me. I find the Nav VI to be a cumbersome piece of junk and wish I never bought it....Is the second time I got suckered by the Garmin/BMW connection to fill the space on the dash/mount. Never again.
Hey Dan, you could check out Gaia, it's a pretty good route planning tool. I do subscribe to Rever and find it to be worth it for the graded roads and also the 3D maps.
Hey Dan, you could check out Gaia, it's a pretty good route planning tool. I do subscribe to Rever and find it to be worth it for the graded roads and also the 3D maps.
2024 Update.I can plan track or route in Rever but to download GPX file you have to subscribe with money. Good videos though.Thanks.
Yeah I heard that. I am using GaiaGPS now for my offroad planning, I've got a whole updated playlist on how I do my adv route planning if yo uare interested.
@@brentbat Will give that playlist a look.Thank you for posting this information.
Hey Friend i live in Brazil and REVER has no info on roads whatsoever in South America , so this system will only work on USA and Europe. Best Regards P
Hey Plinio, are you sure? I'm looking in Rever now and I see roads in South America shown, including tiny little local roads.
@@brentbat There are roads but not the database of Good Roads etc...
@@PlinioProfeta ... Oh I see... you mean the Butler graded motorcycle roads. Yes, unfortunately these aren't everywhere, Good in USA, looks like they are building out Europe, but they don't have them in Australia either.
I dont think downloading GPX files are free =[
Yeah, I made this a couple of years ago, and since then they have changed their licensing. however, the license fee is pretty cheap, and if you live somewhere where they have the Butler maps, then it is definitely worth it. If not, there are other tools for route planning like GaiaGPS (which is what I use in Australia).
As a proficient Basecamp user, I fail to see the benefit of Rever.
Biggest benefit is graded roads. You don't get that in Basecamp... you can easily see which roads are "great roads" to ride.
@@brentbat Not sure what you mean by graded roads. Basecamp shows unpaved roads as dotted lines. All others are solid.
@@BMWLDRider If you buy a subscription to the Butler maps, then the roads are graded... so even the tarmac roads are graded in terms of motorcycle enjoyment. Look at the above video at the 2min mark.
@@brentbat Oh....OK...Like A,B,C etc. Thanks
@@BMWLDRider Yes, exactly.
Its a Route (root)
Depends where you live.
@@brentbat I lived in Sydney half my life and it was a rude word. The US bastardises the English language.
@@ScragNath Yeah, I hear you. The US tend to bastardise a lot of stuff... spelling, date formats etc :-). I split my time between Texas and Sydney and I'm constantly trying to educate the Yanks ;-)
@@brentbat Good onya mate. (From a pommie bogan).
Rever sucked kept wanting me to pay