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I see that the modmat has not intended as a mousing surface on its page, but do you feel it would work poorly as a mouse pad? I tend to build systems on my desk and was thinking it would be nice to have the mat on it full time.
How to Computer - Depends. It has a rougher surface that would be somewhat comparable to one of those "grip" aluminum mousepads. It could be done, but it does not have the smooth surface of cloth pads, as the top is more of a rubberized finish. It is definitely meant to be a work mat first. It will come down to personal preferences. I can't outright say that it's a great mousing surface, though, as it's not intended for that use and, depending on your preferences, may cause too much friction. You could always put a normal mouse pad on top of the work mat, I suppose.
4 stacks gives us a 4096-bit bus, and specs say it's 3072-bit bus card... So, I guess they do similar stuff to AMDs Threadripper here ? Is one of the stacks blocked/dummy/damaged/not connected ?
Telamenais Hence the “hybrid” part: you leave on the base plate and the blower fan to cool the VRMs. GN has done it before with plenty of graphics cards, just never with a GPU this massive.
You mean you don't want to see 1500 "but can it run Crysis?" Comments? ;) Just scrolled down a bit and saw one such comment here already....😑just let the crysis meme die pls
Linus benchmarks are as valid as anyone elses. You can critique how much in depth he goes but not whether the numbers are real or not. Lets not get tin foil hatty here like some in his comments. Gamers Nexus is obviously the most indepth with these things aswell as with best stat presentations imo.
+Vali Tyr I don't think he would fake any of his benchmarks, but he's definitely screwed up a few times in the past. What comes to my mind (as i don't really mind that he's not super in-depth, as not many youtubers are) is the few videos Linus and Luke did with CPU benchmarks, they did CPU benchmarks...at 4K -_- Which i'm guessing i don't need to tell you why that's stupid...it is weird they would make such a rookie mistake like that, since they HAVE done much more complicated stuff in the past :/ . Their was no mention of why they were benchmarking at 4K (it just displayed they were running at 4K max settings in the benchmark slides) and no numbers for 1080p, so they ended up getting really low fps, and then concluded that an i3 (since it got the same fps as the rest of the CPU's because of the GPU bottleneck) would be all you need for gaming. This was with their Kaby lake review this year too, so this isn't just some one off mistake from years ago when they were still new to all this. (their were a few other CPU videos where they made the mistake of running at 4K as well, can't remember what they were off the top of my head though)
Well done for the vid and steering clear of the thumbnail thing, that made me chuckle! I'm just writing here because I believe it's good for your channel. :-)
What are these connectors on the top of the card where normally the SLI connectors are? These look huge. And it doesn't look like they are exposed through the cooler. Will there be a new SLI Connector with Volta?
Sharing the workload between the graphics cards would be nice. But I doubt that thats possible. At least without a ton of manual tuning for every game.
I saw a guru3d article a few days ago saying it wouldn't support NVLink. Speculation or does it really not support it. I know it grabs a lot from the v100 which does support NVLink.
While the four corner Vapor-Chamber retention screw holes appear to be wider than the 1080/1080Ti/Titan X/Titan Xp, I hope to at least see some thermals and/or gaming performances with some sort of AIO, just like with previous cards :D
Does the essential kit have all the bits needed to take apart a founders edition GTX 1080? New to this and want to add a aio to it since its pretty hot hitting over 80c at times
mm, ok, but between the backside of the die and the heatsink, it will in any case be squished quite hard - so ... if you apply too much, you'll have a crapton just ooze over the edges ...
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I love the way the Card looks in this colour. If there was a 1080 or 1070 FE with this colour I would buy it as bad as the cooler might be compared to others I just think it looks so damn good.
i think nvidia said that the tiran v will not support sli or nvlink, they probably reused the pcb form one of the higher end volta cards that support nvlink
Will you use the vaper chamber to cool a cpu? I think it's form factor woukd be ideal for a super slim case. Any thoughts on that? I think it would make for a great mod video :)
What are these white pads on it? What is it's function ??? Heat transfer ? Heat resistence ? Doesn't seem to touch what goes on it... Can't imagine how that works.
probably NVlink fingers, although the card supposedly doesn't support NVlink. who wants to bet Nvidia will release $1000 NVlink bridges for the card a few month down the line that will unlock NVlink
Shoot, now I'm torn between H700i machine learning hub in a $200 case and Titan Volta deep learning GPU at $3000 for casual CS:GO in my $1200 build!!! Decision, decision...
Steve, for future tear downs, is it worth weighing the card before you remove the paste so you can add a similar weight of paste when you rebuild it? While paste density changes between products of you could get fairly close to what the card maker has used without having to do a bunch of trial trial and error testing.
I thought I covered that point by saying "while paste density changes between products you could get fairly close to what card maker used" in my first post....
Hi Steve. I was just wondering, can this implementation of HBM by Nvidia still be considered as HBM2, even if it uses the same layout used originally by AMD in their Fiji line of products? Also if it is HMB2 why do you think they used 4 stacks of DRAM instead of 2 like the Frontier Edition cards which use 16 GB of memory instead of 12 GB used here? Is it perhaps because they are using a different company aside from Samsung or perhaps the memory used here is more cheaply to produce? Would love to hear your thoughts about this. Thanks.
I like to point out a few notes from seeing this. The Geforce GTX branding is completely gone from the cooler (it says Titan in its place, probably marking the shift in marketing for the Titan into its own brand/line of GPUs) the SLI connectors are gone, replaced by NVLink connectors. And the people who will benefit the most from not only this teardown but Buildzoid's upcoming analysis is GN's minority viewers who are indeed into deep-learning (like the guy who sent Steve the Titan Xp for hybrid modding/review) and find this stuff informative (not saying it's a bad thing. If anything I give respect to you guys for doing constructive videos like this).
You can feel how you guys make things for the fans, no one out there is open a brand new Titan V to see what´s inside, that´s what I like about your channel, keep it up!
Hey! Good stuff. Would you consider doing an easy mod to this card or to any of the other founder's models you might have lying around? Remove the window from the cooler and see how that influences temps and noise.
The GPU and HBM look like they're pretty darn level relative to each other compared to some of the Vega cards you've shown. How does it actually compare?
I would think that if a graphics card is marketed at professionals etc. that they would focus the design on incorporating a larger fin array rather than a plexi window... Wouldn't lower temperatures allow a higher base clock, meaning more performance per dollar? Or is the 250w a hard limit they placed?
Benchmarks are on the way. Subscribe for those!
GN Modmat Pre-Orders: store.gamersnexus.net/modmat
Article: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3169-nvidia-titan-v-tear-down-pcb-bare-gpu
You might also like our Titan V specs video: th-cam.com/video/ZjmUzqzDg54/w-d-xo.html
Gamers Nexus Bruv. Need some Minecraft benchmarks. Gotta REALLY flex Titan V's muscles.
Lel.
I see that the modmat has not intended as a mousing surface on its page, but do you feel it would work poorly as a mouse pad? I tend to build systems on my desk and was thinking it would be nice to have the mat on it full time.
How to Computer - Depends. It has a rougher surface that would be somewhat comparable to one of those "grip" aluminum mousepads. It could be done, but it does not have the smooth surface of cloth pads, as the top is more of a rubberized finish. It is definitely meant to be a work mat first. It will come down to personal preferences. I can't outright say that it's a great mousing surface, though, as it's not intended for that use and, depending on your preferences, may cause too much friction. You could always put a normal mouse pad on top of the work mat, I suppose.
John Hooper If it ain't got them Creepers it ain't worth it cuz.
4 stacks gives us a 4096-bit bus, and specs say it's 3072-bit bus card...
So, I guess they do similar stuff to AMDs Threadripper here ?
Is one of the stacks blocked/dummy/damaged/not connected ?
V is for Vista, right? Since it's the successor to Titan Xp?
DrathVader youre right next is Titan 7 ( for real tho the next Titan is the 7th Titan)
and then we will have Titan 8, 8.1, skip 9 because germans, and 10 will be the "final" Titan.
DumbSloth87 why Skip 9 because of Germans? ( im German so please tell me ^^)
A Titan "NO" wouldn't be good for marketing.
7 ate 9
He Pro Tech, but he also attac
Rassul Tabulov He attac, He Pro Tech but most importantly, he make titan v wreck
Man's not Hot! Either after so much Review or Overclock! He Chill as fak!
Snowflake = successful thumbnail
Okay, now grab a Threadripper AIO cooler off the shelf and turn this baby into a hybrid card!
Not exactly you have to cool the VRMs still at some of the caps
Telamenais Hence the “hybrid” part: you leave on the base plate and the blower fan to cool the VRMs. GN has done it before with plenty of graphics cards, just never with a GPU this massive.
Here's a comment to help with the ROI bois. Thanks for keeping up the great content.
ROI
ROI v2.0
and another ROI, for ya boiii.
I have a friend called ROI, he prefer to be called POY.
another one
Thank god gamersnexus will review this card, because i don't think linus can do any "proper" benchmark.
A S LTT is an entertainment channel for 12yo kids.
You mean you don't want to see 1500 "but can it run Crysis?" Comments? ;)
Just scrolled down a bit and saw one such comment here already....😑just let the crysis meme die pls
linus would drop it first....then benchmark..haha
Linus benchmarks are as valid as anyone elses. You can critique how much in depth he goes but not whether the numbers are real or not. Lets not get tin foil hatty here like some in his comments. Gamers Nexus is obviously the most indepth with these things aswell as with best stat presentations imo.
+Vali Tyr
I don't think he would fake any of his benchmarks, but he's definitely screwed up a few times in the past.
What comes to my mind (as i don't really mind that he's not super in-depth, as not many youtubers are)
is the few videos Linus and Luke did with CPU benchmarks, they did CPU benchmarks...at 4K -_-
Which i'm guessing i don't need to tell you why that's stupid...it is weird they would make such a rookie mistake like that, since they HAVE done much more complicated stuff in the past :/ . Their was no mention of why they were benchmarking at 4K
(it just displayed they were running at 4K max settings in the benchmark slides)
and no numbers for 1080p, so they ended up getting really low fps, and then concluded that an i3
(since it got the same fps as the rest of the CPU's because of the GPU bottleneck)
would be all you need for gaming.
This was with their Kaby lake review this year too, so this isn't just some one off mistake from years ago when they were still new to all this.
(their were a few other CPU videos where they made the mistake of running at 4K as well, can't remember what they were off the top of my head though)
that screwdriver fail at 2:00 had me dying HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If this was Linus, the Titan V would’ve gone flying off the table instead.
Linus actually has a Titan V and I am now waiting for that
GN fails are the best
Man D🤕wn! ROFL
nice cut though
At 12:39, the cover is also for EMC/EMI shielding (look at the galvanic contacts near screw hole), it is not just design plate.
thanks for actually doing benchmarks steve, i can't wait to see linus' videos *4 TITAN Vs IN SLI!?! $12000 OF GRAPHICS CARDS*
I thought Nvidia did away with more than 2 way SLI? Linus would still find some way to do it though.
No SLI no NVlink on these entry level cards you need 10k tesla cards for NVlink and still no SLI on those.
Supposedly there is a bridge connect for them, a $500 NVlink between them.
CheapSushi Titan V doesn't support it appearently
Slinky already has 4 of them.
3:49 SteeveTecTips Thumbnails
Don’t break it Steve! Only Linus earns that title
Professional doing real work here, not some clown you found in the alley.
VOLTA!
Volta para o buraco que saiu!
The foam spacer is to seal the air from just going over the fins bypassing it not noise.
Lol no it's not, the air is exiting the case there, it's already gone over the fins by the time it gets to that pad.
Why does this card not support DLSS? It has tensor cores...
That heatsink is insanely small for such a high TDP GPU.
that thing must be LOUD
Noise probably isn't the main concern for someone buying this GPU and reference coolers always suck anyway.
+SlavjanA I always thought that reference coolers blow
gtx 590 fo real
I don't mind reference cooler my 980ti is pretty good
Thank you Steve for keeping it real and not using melodramatic thumbnails. It’s like a breath of fresh air.
Will you be doing a hybrid mod?
Well done for the vid and steering clear of the thumbnail thing, that made me chuckle! I'm just writing here because I believe it's good for your channel. :-)
Wow you guys are on it! Congrats this should be huge. I look forward to seeing how this all plays out.
What are these connectors on the top of the card where normally the SLI connectors are? These look huge. And it doesn't look like they are exposed through the cooler.
Will there be a new SLI Connector with Volta?
NVLink
Melvin Klein last I heard volta sli would fully share the graphic load between the two cards but I haven't seen the topic come up in months
Sharing the workload between the graphics cards would be nice. But I doubt that thats possible. At least without a ton of manual tuning for every game.
I saw a guru3d article a few days ago saying it wouldn't support NVLink. Speculation or does it really not support it. I know it grabs a lot from the v100 which does support NVLink.
It’s so shiny and beautiful. The actual gpu
Everything you said about 4:00 ended up being in the thumbnail's video preview.
Thanks for keeping your thumbnails looking professional. In the Age of Clickbait it's rare and a lot more appreciated than you might think.
Congratulations 🎊 🎆 🎈
You are first the whole world 🌍 to do a First Look of Titan V
I didn't see your videos in a long time. Nice to be back in here, amazing as always man.
I lol'd at your modmat photo using the sharpied Threadripper. Maximum troll nose thumbing!
I just disabled my ad blocker after I heard you bought it for yourself. You guys are great. Thanks for this!
Just noticed the mouse hover clip. Absolutely brilliant! Gave me a good chuckle.
I was about to go to bed, and then I see this. You guys are great!
Electro Tech Nerd I bet you got a hand lotion and some paper tissues to watch this. Go tiger.
While the four corner Vapor-Chamber retention screw holes appear to be wider than the 1080/1080Ti/Titan X/Titan Xp, I hope to at least see some thermals and/or gaming performances with some sort of AIO, just like with previous cards :D
Where is the memory located on that board i dont see any visible memory chips, are they built into the gpu die?
can't wait to see those benchmarks... :D
im not trying to be cheap but i am wondering how the mod mat comes out to a retail price of $100. id love to buy one..... at
Let me know when you find a real clean room grounded anti static mat for under fifty dollars.
Thank you for the honest thumbnails and titles. Excellent job as always.
just curious, what are the plans for that card when all the testing is done?
Does the essential kit have all the bits needed to take apart a founders edition GTX 1080? New to this and want to add a aio to it since its pretty hot hitting over 80c at times
game benchmarks cancelled; card is dead :p
That's why they did the benchmarks first
source? or are you trying to get a job with cnn?
Gillian Seed good meme my dude
Malus1531 lol nice one
Gillian Seed 👉
9:15 can someone explain how too much thermal paste on the CPU could actually degrade performance ??? I genuinely cannot think of any reason
Darieee it turns into a thermal insulator with enough thickness.
mm, ok, but between the backside of the die and the heatsink, it will in any case be squished quite hard - so ... if you apply too much, you'll have a crapton just ooze over the edges ...
Nice video, are you going to mount an AIO cooler to it and push it to its limits?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I love the way the Card looks in this colour. If there was a 1080 or 1070 FE with this colour I would buy it as bad as the cooler might be compared to others I just think it looks so damn good.
Nvidia say on SLI but, whay the two large & two small Connectors top of the card, where the SLI fingers previously, and what are those connectors for?
Cant wait for Titan VX, VxP and VXp :)
Are you guys going to do a hybrid mod or is the GPU package too big?
Also the colour reminds me of a heavy smoker and their furniture.
Why are the sli fingers so huge, and in a different position on the PCB than normal?
They are NVLink connectors.
i think nvidia said that the tiran v will not support sli or nvlink, they probably reused the pcb form one of the higher end volta cards that support nvlink
Did you make a note of the thermal pad thickness?
Will you use the vaper chamber to cool a cpu? I think it's form factor woukd be ideal for a super slim case. Any thoughts on that? I think it would make for a great mod video :)
Thank you for not using the clickbait on your videos really glad i subscribed!
Have you done more than gaming benchmarks before risking the card right? Like video encoding or kitty recognition right? 😮
why so big pcb? hbm2 ram is so damn small. why all this huge surface area for just power?
Those thermal pads are amazing! We're talking fujipoly here
are those sli connectors at the top of the card or some sort of bridge?
Are you guna try some liquid metal in the normal TIM position on cpu or gpu?
You said the heatsink was aluminium at 15:24 but at 15:44 when the cooler is turned upside down the fin material definitely looks like copper.
What are these white pads on it? What is it's function ??? Heat transfer ? Heat resistence ? Doesn't seem to touch what goes on it... Can't imagine how that works.
You guys are the best thing in TH-cam right now O_O
Tearing down something worth 3000 dollars would have me sweating bullets
Nice teardown👍 any further info about VRMs so far?
Looking forward to your in depth gaming benchmarks!
That is a strange looking SLI connector. Higher bandwidth or NVlink? Just strange.
Sean murtagh nv link don't work.
probably NVlink fingers, although the card supposedly doesn't support NVlink. who wants to bet Nvidia will release $1000 NVlink bridges for the card a few month down the line that will unlock NVlink
Like a $1000 DLC
Shoot, now I'm torn between H700i machine learning hub in a $200 case and Titan Volta deep learning GPU at $3000 for casual CS:GO in my $1200 build!!!
Decision, decision...
This channel is slowly growing on me the more I watch the vids.
Steve, for future tear downs, is it worth weighing the card before you remove the paste so you can add a similar weight of paste when you rebuild it? While paste density changes between products of you could get fairly close to what the card maker has used without having to do a bunch of trial trial and error testing.
75keg75 if he don't have exactly the same paste why would he try to replicate the amount of it?
I thought I covered that point by saying "while paste density changes between products you could get fairly close to what card maker used" in my first post....
Wait, so you're cleaning the stock thermal paste before doing temperature and performance measurements? No *OUT OF THE BOX THERMALS?* :(
I actually really like your guy's thumbnails
Hey, that leaked Nvidia intern picture from May shows exactly this shroud and what seem to be Nvlink connectors on the side.
Hi Steve.
I was just wondering, can this implementation of HBM by Nvidia still be considered as HBM2, even if it uses the same layout used originally by AMD in their Fiji line of products?
Also if it is HMB2 why do you think they used 4 stacks of DRAM instead of 2 like the Frontier Edition cards which use 16 GB of memory instead of 12 GB used here?
Is it perhaps because they are using a different company aside from Samsung or perhaps the memory used here is more cheaply to produce?
Would love to hear your thoughts about this. Thanks.
I like to point out a few notes from seeing this. The Geforce GTX branding is completely gone from the cooler (it says Titan in its place, probably marking the shift in marketing for the Titan into its own brand/line of GPUs) the SLI connectors are gone, replaced by NVLink connectors.
And the people who will benefit the most from not only this teardown but Buildzoid's upcoming analysis is GN's minority viewers who are indeed into deep-learning (like the guy who sent Steve the Titan Xp for hybrid modding/review) and find this stuff informative (not saying it's a bad thing. If anything I give respect to you guys for doing constructive videos like this).
Could you tell us the thickness of those thermal pads?
You can feel how you guys make things for the fans, no one out there is open a brand new Titan V to see what´s inside, that´s what I like about your channel, keep it up!
ROI before it dies? your going to mine Ether with it? look into mining other ethash coins like Ella or Pirl.
what are those PCI connector used for on the top of the gpu?
What are the large connections on top where sli would usually be?
What are those ports at the side(?) of the card for? definitely not the current SLI
Jayz did not bring me here but I've been here for years :D
The sli connectors are huge! Almost half the length of the PCB!
That's unfortunate. I'm guessing they have it on the card for testing purposes? otherwise I don't get the reason for them
Satoshi Kamei i think it is just repurposed pcb from the 10k card to reduce costs
Your videos are easy to watch and listen to, and you're thorough. I love this channel. Thank you for all that you do.
Are you planning to sell that ModMat on Ebay or Amazon ?
I don't live in US, but I would like to purchase one man
Looks like a mesh covered with thermal paste. Im guessing of course. The mesh holds it together im assuming.
Is GDDR 6 going to have a smaller footprint on the PCB?
What are those tiny chiplets next to each HBM stack?
I think the colour of the GPU shield was supposed to portray an "electricity" feel. I think of copper, gold contacts, volts...Volta when I look at it.
Hey! Good stuff. Would you consider doing an easy mod to this card or to any of the other founder's models you might have lying around? Remove the window from the cooler and see how that influences temps and noise.
So are those connectors at the top of the card for NVLink? I've noticed that the card doesn't have any SLI fingers (for obvious reasons).
Christian Arnold Yes :) Same connectors as the Tesla cards
Good Guy Steve here is the guy who spent 3 grand worth of OUR money (patreons) for OUR education. Huge thanks!
why do so many electronics items use completely different screws in multiple areas?
The GPU and HBM look like they're pretty darn level relative to each other compared to some of the Vega cards you've shown. How does it actually compare?
Cat was safely locked out of the studio for this one. :) My little furry static machines like to get involved any time hardware is taken apart.
Leo Davidson the common saying of oi you little shit don’t you go near it
Whats the heatsink plate made from? What metal?
Shipping the mod mat to Australia costs $45.02 :( will you have cheaper shipping options in future?
Was this removed from a Dell machine or supplied by Dell? Spotted Dell Part numbers on the cooler lol
there shoud only be 3 hbm stacks, right? why are there 4 on the pcb?
One of them is disabled, like the extra dies in threadripper.
I would think that if a graphics card is marketed at professionals etc. that they would focus the design on incorporating a larger fin array rather than a plexi window... Wouldn't lower temperatures allow a higher base clock, meaning more performance per dollar? Or is the 250w a hard limit they placed?
Is the audio and the video not synced?
@Gamers Nexus
Does a EVGA Hybrid cooler fit on it? :)
You're usually pretty diligent about using both empiric and metric measurements, but on the pre-order page there's no metric. Please fix. :)
Appreciate you guys spending the money for our entertainment!!!
What is this strange conector in the top of the card ? where the sli used to be ?
NVLink! It was introduced with the original V100 Volta GPU.
What are those connectors at the top?
So how many spare screws did it come with?
What mosfets are Nvidia using?