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49ers hurt after SB loss, KC saw Brees in Purdy, Shanahan need new start? | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss the San Francisco 49ers post Super Bowl LVIII. The FTF crew decide if Kyle Shanahan needs a fresh start, react to Chiefs comparing Brock Purdy to Drew Brees and more.
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Why is nobody saying about the uncall holdings?
Hey Nick
It’s a terrible look for you to keep on hating on Purdy
Everyone with any sense knows he’s the guy that can win you the super bowl
You call mahomes the greatest
Yet Purdy came a hair from beating him
And you can talk about nonsense all you want but that’s the fact
Purdy is awesome!!
Amd you? Not so much
Wildes at the end😂"He's closer to Drew Brees (in rings) than Patrick Mahomes is to Brady" Gotta love this show😂😂😂
Money ball lol
Nick wright reaction to that 😂😂
That's a great qoute
Gave him the good ol scalibrine
That was a crusher 😂😅
Brock can't be blamed for Chris Jones being unblocked 4 different times.
i 100% agree
Well... You could argue he should be working on shifting the blocking scheme like Peyton, Brady, Mahomes, Brees, etc were/are known for doing to ensure Jones doesn't come free. Would that help? Who knows? Jones sometimes looks like he comes free just because he wins immediately off the block at times.
@@OrphimNo shifting of the offensive line fixes blown blocking assignments.
@@Orphim So thats definitely something that will be expected of him in coming seasons. Second year its not a shock hes not on that level of gane control.
For Purdy to take the next step he needs to evolve his game the same way Brady did.
@@OrphimThe Oline players admitted to blowing blocking assignments (speecially the 4 plays that left Jones wide open lanes) and there's even a dustup with a few of the oline being supposedly called out via "X". It's not Brock shifting the oline that's the problem, it's players missing their blocks.
As a Niners fan, my biggest issue is Kyle's lack of adjustments. The QB spot isn't the issue. It's Kyle failing to learn from mistakes and continue to fall apart in the middle of big games. There's been 7 games where a team lost the SB after having a double digit lead. Kyle was the OC or head coach for 3 of them.
All of this
He called good plays in big moments. The OL failed him. Especially on the 3rd down before the field goal. How they left Chris Jones unblocked so many times is baffling.
@@jasonjones8938 true - but 3rd and 4 with the game on the line ... I would live with us running on both downs with our best player who was just named OPY to get me those 4 yards
@@jasonjones8938 That was a horrible play call. It was an empty backfield with no RB back to chip or block when it was clearly they were sending the house. Jones got to him but he wasn't the only person to get through on that blitz. Kyle blew on so many blitzes in the game and there were 9 unblocked rushers in that game, all on blitzes. Even if you blame the OL, that's Kyle's OL that he has neglected and pieced together.
I wonder if Kyle fixed everything JT O'Sullivan complained about what it would look like
The muffed punt. That’s the game right there.
a turning point for sure - but there were several opportunities that the 49ers didn't capitalize on > blocked field goal, interception to start the 2nd half - and we go 3 and out on 3 possessions - passing 8/9 of those plays ?? just terrible
Ben and Dan c not taking a fg led alone the 2 and not taking 4th and inches at goal line coasted lions sb
@@ThievezVpatty threw a pick to Brian branch ID k why branch doesn't play cb and safety hes played both😂
Spotted the Chiefs seven points. But also Pacheco's second fumble. Had the Niners recovered it, game over.
@@greglyon1402 Gibbs fumble surprised me I think he had 2 all season. 1 vs Sf 1 in regular season. Detroit goes for 1fg then don't go for at least the 1 to tie we win with 1 because j mo TD. Not going for it 4th and inches goal line but taking a 4th and 3 pass to Josh Reynolds that already dropped 2 come on yes lions ate the best 4th down in the game like 35 or 38%. All they had to do was dial up all the trick plays and keep running.
Purdy was successful throwing to Conley and Jennings. Invest in the o-line and even if they pay Purdy, I'm betting he still puts up numbers with mid-round WR talent.
If you notice, every game he struggled in, really had nothing to do with weapons being out. It has to do with his offensive line.
A lot of people do not know his name, but they have a guy that is one of those YAC guys already on the team developing. Ronnie Bell. I know they are going to have to pay BA, but if he wants too much money, bring back Jennings and let Bell shine next year. I personally think they will being back both receivers.
I just wanna see Purdy behind a good O Line
He had a great O line.
Right, just having CMC, Aiyuk, Kittle, Samuel, TWilliams definitely isn’t enough
@@ronniekregar3482 Trent Williams is the o-line everybody else Is subpar. They literally let Chris jones run right through when aiyiuk was wide open for a td in overtime
I wanna see the 49ers OL in front of a good QB
@@CaNtHoNY127 you should have made your own comment then instead of replying to mine
Still attacking Brock Purdy. It's unbelievable.
It's the worst take he's ever had at this point. At least he eventually admitted he was wrong about Joker.
What's wrong with calling him good but not great? He's not a top 5 qb. That's not a slight.
When Wildes said in utter disbelief "He just took the best QB in football to OT in the freaking Superbowl. WUT R U TALKING ABOUT?!" I was like THHHHHHHANK YOU
@@djknight8167 He is a top 5 QB. He's the 2nd best in the NFL. The numbers don't lie, the success doesn't lie. The trite argument about his team carrying him has never once been true and as a result his unit is grossly overrated as a whole. The "avengers" are really just average.
@@renaldoawes2210 I disagree but time will tell.
If someone on the right side of the line blocks and Purdy has more than .5 seconds to throw the ball on their last play, Purdy would have been "that guy"
Nobody takes that much time smh
If Purdy could read a zero blitz and throw to the open checkdowns he would be that guy.
@@AiilmanF2Pit was a blown assignment. Also did you forget that Mahomes couldn’t even start to read defenses until last year, which he said himself.
@@AiilmanF2Pyou just proved you don’t know football… he read that blitz but the Oline didn’t do their part wow … how do 2 DE come thru untouched and the Oline is BLOCKING NO ONE?!!!
So Purdy can’t read a defense and be what a good qb would actually be and audible outta it
Purdy is the Franchise
This were in this exact position 4 years ago without him. He's good but definitely not the franchise
Yes! Please pay him huge money! 😂
He's amazing man
@@TruthDissidentlol they should definitely show their franchise QB the bag💰
They should do the "trajectory/pace" comparison for Purdy v. Brees like Nick does with Mahomes v. Brady.
Agreed. Asisnine comparison by Mangini saying brees got better as the game wore on without showing any numbers. Why not show Brees first 2 years or at his first full year and a half as a starter and compare that to Brock's numbers for the asme period. I guarantee you Brock has better numbers than Brees.
@@pkpnyt4711Purdy can’t sniff Brees jock strap
@@pkpnyt4711 Well yea because Brock is in a much more qb friendly era than Brees was and Brees himself was a late bloomer. If you actually think Brock will be close to what Brees was from 2006-2018 you are insane.
@@ATREX643 The kid has played 2 years and he's still getting better. He's shown improvement each year and the numbers prove it. If he gets better next year, and keeps improving he'll also have years where he'll show the numbers (barring injury).
@@ATREX643 Brees was in an insanely QB friendly era.... Are you joking? Lmfao
So, he’s not knocking Brock, but he proceeds to knock Brock??? Sheesh! Brock is one of the primary reasons they made it to the SB.
And he and Jennings were the only two players not making mistakes.
And one of the primary reasons they had a chance to win it.
No- CMC was the reason you were contenders. You could replace Purdy with like 10-12 other guys, but you can't replace CMC
@@Arctanis-vt3hllolol us niner fans have seen this offense without mcaffrey playing and they never dropped a beat. In fact, there was a game when cmc didn’t play the second half and the offense was running better. I’m not saying he ain’t special, but Purdy put the niners in the Super Bowl and did enough to win the game.
@@Arctanis-vt3hlwasn't it cmc who fumbled on their very first drive?
Also worth mentioning these stats came with an obscenely high pressure percentage in the second half with defenders getting bee-lines to Purdy on more plays than not. No he’s not prime Drew Brees but he had an abysmal O-Line in the second half and to pretend that wasn’t the driving factor in his numbers is ridiculous. Can’t wait to see what he can do with better tackles and guards (except Trent Williams) next season.
He's better.
So what is he supposed to have a free clean ride in the pocket? A QB can't be afraid defensuve pressure or a blitz? Step up and anticipate the hit but make the big time throw 🎯 And they wanna pay him 20 million?
SF better fix the O-Line it was broke last year and they didn't do anything this past season to fix it.
@@AMusicnSportsnComedyfan patrick mahomes lost a super bowl cause he didn't have an offensive line. Why didn't mahomes anticipate the hit and make the big time throw? And they pay mahomes 50+ million? Hope you see how idiotic you sound
@@kenw2225 No he's not - this is insulting to Drew Brees. This dude has failed against elite defenses - they looked bad all playoffs - should've lost to GB, Detroit. He also looked bad against Baltimore.
Lol idk what more Purdy has to do to prove he belongs
Win 3 sb
I think another year of great play and he’ll get his respect. Right now I believe everyone just wants to see more. He definitely belongs though.
See how he plays when he isn't surrounded by the best offense in the league
"...what more Purdy has to do to prove he belongs..."
Be given a $50 million dollar a year contract.
Put him on the Carolina Panthers let's see how he does
It’s not Brock’s fault it’s Shanahan was out coached by Andy Reid
I think he overprotected the kid. He didn’t want to put him in the spotlight as he was throwing him under the bus. He knows this is his second year and under development. Didn’t want to ruin the process. Tried to win it that way
@@josantonioalcantara How is calling passing plays with an empty backfield, protecting the kid against the defense with the 2nd most sacks this year that blitzes EVERY 3rd down in the league? BTW, on almost every single one of those plays calls, a defender came untouched. Most notably, Chris fricken JONES. The one guy you absolutely need to block, lol. Fact is, Kyle gets lost with in game awareness. He is thinking too far down the line to realize what is happening in the moment.
I hate this narrative. Andy Reid spent two decades being the "genius coach who couldn't win the big game." His playoff record without Patrick Mahomes is 11-13, his record with Patrick Mahomes is 15-3. It's easy to outcoach someone when you've got a once in a generation QB on your team and you're playing against a guy who has the equivalent of Alex Smith at his prime. Not a knock on Brock Purdy, that is a good place to be if you're the last pick in the draft and you just completed your first full season in the NFL, but if we look at what Andy Reid did with Alex Smith vs what he's done with Patrick Mahomes, it's pretty clear that one guy is waaaaaaay better than the other. Both teams made mistakes and had their struggles. The Chiefs had a HoF caliber QB who could overcome those mistakes and the Niners didn't. Simple as that.
@@reckbomb82 You say not a knock on Purdy yet it is a knock on Purdy. Alex never looked as good s Purdy has and that is not even up for debate. The game boiled down to the Chiefs defense, not Mahomes. Chris Jones does not go unblocked for most of the game, the Chiefs get destroyed. Niners got outcoached and Mahomes took advantage of Wilks calling for soft zone coverages and Burks having to try and cover anybody, especially Kelce. I understand the love affair for Mahomes but he was not the MVP of that game, period. Spags won the game by switching to man and blitzing every time the Niners went zero backfield, which was a TON on the 2nd half. Mahoems made maybe 1 single play that was outside the script of the play. Not a knock on him because he is the best QB of this generation and it is not close. But he is getting WAY too much credit for the Chiefs winning the game.
NO shame in KS being outcoached by Andy Reid who is 20 years older and had plenty of struggles before KC. Also, yes, having Mahomes and a genius DC who has been with them for several consecutive seasons certainly helps
FTF, go look up and watch the video on Brock Purdy analyzing his play at Iowa State. Nick doesn’t know what he’s taking about.
Good thing the NFL is not Iowa stat, with that logic Vince Young should be a top 10 all time QB. Zach Wilson should have a Super Bowl by now.
@@AiilmanF2Pyou literally made no sense with what you said.
@@AiilmanF2P Vince Young, specifically, was put on a team with a coach who hated him, was put in a position to fail, and was not really given a fair shot in the league. So kind of an odd example, but yes, college success doesn't translate directly.
People that see more Twitter than tape.
Brock Purdy gashed their zone defense. The Chiefs abandoned it in the 2nd half. It was up to Deebo and Aiyuk to win vs man coverage. They couldn’t.
How did they have time to? unblocked d line was touching Purdy before they made it 5 yards
@@kenw2225Yeah, this loss, more than anything, was on the offensive line.
deebo and aiyuk didnt win 1 on 1. Purdy had no time to throw even on the rare occurrence that they did win 1 on 1. On lynch and shanahan for not investing in an offensive line. They can fix that mistake this off season.
Wasn't Deebo or Aiyuk's fault. It was the offensive line.
Well said, those 2 'elite' receivers can get open in zone coverage but against man coverage by quality defenders they're average at best.
How are blown blocking assignments on Purdy? Peyton Manning could’ve been out there, being the field general he is, and he couldn’t make adjustments to fix that. You can’t fix blown blocking assignments, that’s why it’s called a blown assignment…
He has to recognize that and change the protection - he slid the protection to the wrong side on another play that resulted in Jones not being blocked.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Again, there is no adjustment, that would allow a free pass rush from a defensive lineman. The Guard acted like he wasn’t right in front of him.
Wildes' very last line is great, "he's closer in superbowls to Brees than Mahomes is to Brady" lmao
As a member of the Chiefs Kingdom, I think we should vote Wildes out for comments like that. ;)
We need more Wildes and less Nick. Much less.
@@JohnClarkW As another member of the Chiefs Kingdom. I'm not going to vote a guy out just because he's spewing facts.🧐
@@in2darabbithole967which y’all would stop lying about being fans so you can hate
Drew Brees playoff stats 298.1 YPG 97.1 Rating.
Brady playoff stats 279.2 YPG 89.8 Rating
In the Super Bowl on offense the two best players were CMC and Purdy. Trent, Aiyuk, Kittle and Deebo played terrible.
I’d say the fumble takes CMC out of the top two and Jauan Jennings had an incredible game. Purdy and Jennings were SF’s two best offensive players that game in my opinion.
jennings and purdy were the best. That cmc fumble was huge. Niners were moving the ball at will during that drive and it prolly ends in a touchdown which completely changes the trajectory of the game.
Trent was good outside of the penalites
@@RobertiusJoneus LOL - Purdy was mediocre - Jennings actually had to throw a TD pass since Purdy had trouble doing it.
I wanted the Chiefs to win, but Brock played well. You figure last year he was in the NFC Championship but got hurt and this year he was in the Superbowl. He didn't cause CMC to fumble, Moody extra point to get blocked, a punt to hit a back foot. I think he can be the 49ers Franchise QB
He also didn't choose to not go for it on fourth or take the OT first instead of deferring. There were so many outs to win that game and they blew it. Nick is just an asshole who is more interested in looking smart than being smart. He may be a Chiefs fan, but his narcissism is grating.
No he didn't - he missed throws just like Garropalo and Kaepernick before him. The only difference is that they didn't have CMC.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Wrong. You dont' know QB play obviously.
Thank you. Finally someone making some sense. Now if the 9ers can bolster the right side of their oline that would also help immensely.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl sure thing guy. he outplayed Tua, Allen, and Jackson against the same team and defensive pressures. but im sure those guys are just scrubs too huh? you're a legitimate dolt
Nobody wanted the niners to win more than Mangini😭😂
Include nick, even if the chiefs aren't their opponent, he's praying that brock would fail. He says "i'm not attacking purdy" but what is he doing then?🤣
too bad lol
He wasn't attacking Brock by saying he isn't "that dude" unless he takes a few steps forward. That is accurate truth. He also NEEDS to take that step forward because if he continues to play at this level SF will have to pay him or let him walk. Either way he goes to a different team. The 49ers won't be able to give him all the weapons he has right now and keep the defense as stacked as it is while paying Brock. @@nassiglutt6587
@@nassiglutt6587being realistic about Purdy he isn’t elite he’s top 10 sure but im still taking Burrow, Allen, Hurts, Stroud, Lamar, and dare i say Herbert over him.
Well, Kyle Shanahan probably wanted it more
The Chiefs beating the niners in both SBs had nothing to do with the QB play . It was KS inability to hold onto leads. Because of that Mahomes is 3-1 instead on 1-3. Its embarrassing how we have turn football into a individual sports. Smh
It’s easier for people who don’t understand the game to make narratives about what is actually happening
Its not just holding onto leads. 10 points is still too close for comfort for any game. He's gotta find a way to get a sizeable gap on the scoreboard and then focus on keeping that lead like they were doing earlier in the season.
And how do you extend leads? Qb play. But it has nothing to do with qb play? What? Do you understand how football works?
Cry
@@ss_IIII Play calling is how you extend leads. Any QB is only as good as the play call. As an example, you do not run an empty backfield set on 3rd down vs a team that blitzes every 3rd down. Or, you do not call pass plays on 3 straight drives when the defense is giving up yards against the run. You do not call run plays out of the I formation, up the middle when the defense is stacking the box. Especially when you have multiple options of who can run the ball and great misdirection plays that have been working for you all game. Running the ball opens up the pass.
Mahones had 3 "yikes" throws if that is how people keep score. One was an awful throw that was intercepted, one was a long completion that the underneath safety probably intercepts 90% of the time, and one was honestly a dangerous throw-away in the middle of the field that the backer couldn't quite get to (and should have been called intentional grounding as there were no receivers in the area).
And?
Of course you want Brock to throw when you know the offensive line is just getting demolished. Like no duh???
The 49ers literally had a bottom 1/3 of league offensive line when it came to pass blocking. Everyone they faced in the playoffs was top 6.
Man we need an O Line
If Mac Jones, Bryce Young, Justin Fields had the season Purdy had - no way would they suggest the Niners hadn't found the "guy." Draft prejudice is extreme. And I agree with Brou that hope Purdy shows again next season the performance he had this year.
Didnt everyone agree Jalen Hurts was Philly's guy after losing to mahomes?
@@littlebabycarrotful It seems like some people are revising their opinions of Hurts after this last season.
Because of the weapons around them. No one has a more stacked roster than Purdy. You could replace him with 10-12 other QB's and SF would be in the SB. Too many weapons everywhere and the best running back in the NFL
And I think if you put Brock on any other playoff team those teams are still playoff teams. Just BC the team around him is great doesnt mean Brock wouldnt be successful on other teams
@@littlebabycarrotful Apparently he didn't have The Avengers. AJ Brown, Devonta Smith Jason Kelce, and Lane Johnson are all mid. /s
This Purdy hate is bonkers
What did he do to prove anything win the Superbowl
@@roemellobellIn his second year, take Patrick Mahomes, and one of the best defenses to over time, DESPITE, having an awful offensive line.
@@rhuttner12 no the chiefs d line made they o line look the way they looked stop acting like brock didn't have every weapon available. no excuses for him they lost.
@@nikjulez74that’s cap 9ers o-line was 24th in pass rush win rate this year. Unfortunately Trent can’t play all 5 positions on the o-line. Purdy protected them with the anticipation throws.
Mcduffie and Sneed started locking Deebo and Ayuik up in the second half. Giving Chris Jones time to effect Purdy.
@@rhuttner12 ok he carries the team on his back
Nick thinks Purdy was the problem? You know who had great quarterbacks, Baltimore and Buffalo.. Purdy held his own.
Lamar Jackson 54.1% 272 Yds TDs 1 INTs 75.5 Passer Rating
Josh Allen 66.7% 186 Yds TS 1 INTs 0 86.1 Passer Rating
Brock Purdy 60.5% 255 Yards TDs 1 Ints 0 89.3 Passer Rating
But nobody was saying Lamar and Allen "play well" neither.
Ravens and bills have had “that guy” for a while now and have won nothing. Niners need to fix the o- line and make some changes on defense before moving on from shanahan or Purdy
Those guys are elite and carry flawed rosters - Purdy has a stacked roster, if you replaced him with Jackson, Allen, Burrow, Rodgers, Mahomes, Goff, Hebert, Hurts and even Love, SF is still in the SB.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Lamar had a stacked team this year and still looked like his old self in the playoffs. Not saying Purdy is on their level but I think there’s other issues that need to be resolved before hopping back on the QB carousel as they have done for the last 20+ years
If you gotta say over and over you’re not attacking Purdy you are bruh 😂😂
Brock put his team in position to win, it was the special teams that cost them the game
That special teams turnover completely changed the game
Had Kyle Williams flashbacks. shudder
And Kyle
He played well but that 3rd quarter could’ve gone better
What happened in the 3 quarter 🤔
Man Brock didn't cost them this game . Special teams with a unfortunate turnover. And then the offensive player of the year fumbled !!! Talk about that
So you are just gonna keep giving Shanahan Chance after Chance after Chance to Lose AGAIN???!!!! His Play Calling is Ridiculous and they haven't learned a THING!!!
Yes. Because he’s consistently in the nfc championship. If you just throw anyone at the wall you end up 6-11. It’s like Steve young. He kept us around all the time but took him a while to win the big one.
And go back to a chip kelly or tomsula situation? Lol no thanks
If Brock Purdy would have had some protection, during that last final drive in overtime to score a touchdown to win the Super Bowl this would be a different conversation.
If Brock Purdy was a great QB instead of a good then this would be a different conversation
@@nextin_dabuilding2908 Football is a team sport bro, other players around him have to do there job too for that play to be successful.
@@samuelhonable5784 if they won it wouldn’t cuz of him McCarthy was carting team 2nd half him self.. his team did his job he didn’t excute in over time and had to kick lol
Brock Purdy is a good quarterback if not pass then run the football, they got CMC he's one there best players give him the ball.
@@nextin_dabuilding2908 He was literally outplaying Mahomes LOL. What are you even talking about here? It is not his fault the team allowed Mahomes to come back 4 times, lol. Geebus did you even watch the game?
Bro why are they making it seem like the coach was saying Purdy is Drew Brees. He literally said he has Brees qualities. Brock is 24 years old, Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he was 27-28 years old and he was probably even better in his 30s. Brock has a lot of time to get there. I like Purdy a lot and he played well in the Super Bowl but man people have really been throwing some wild comparisons all year. First he's Brady, then he's Montana, and now he's Brees. Like we just gotta let him be Brock, good, great, or bad.
It’s all about perception. Brock was the last pick in the draft so people think he’s already hit his ceiling and only as good as the team around him.
Some people think he’s a better Alex Smith
Some think he can develop into a Drew Brees
We’ll see over the next few years
It is the comparisons of draft pick vs talent. Playing style. And actual stats. No one ever said he was the next Brady , Montana or Brees.
@@byronsmith3152 Playing samantics with that one. You pretty much said the same thing in a different format. Saying somebody plays like somebody else is a direct comparison to that player.
@@haydennyagah706 Because they play similar style of games. Yes that is comparing their playing style. What it is not doing is saying player x IS player y. This is not that hard to understand. Nick is all or nothing with his takes. So when he says Caleb WIlliams is the next Mahomes, he is literally saying that Caleb could be in the GOAT conversation during his playing career. Context will always matter.
Comparing veteran brees to brock is crazy....compare what brees was 2 years into his career ...
Niners should move Kyle to OC bring in Bill Bellichick for head coach and bring in rex Ryan for defensive coordinator.
lmao just see how much you can REALLY stack the deck all in an effort to beat the Chiefs. We should honestly just put the refs in 9ers jersey's and see if that works. That team already has an embarrassment of riches, and we're sitting here trying to solve how to make them even better, good grief.
Shanahan would NEVER agree to that. He'd have 10 teams offering him a head coaching job if we tried to demote him.
@@BigHippo-si3nd then he can go not win the Super Bowl for those 10 teams. Kyle is so incredibly overrated it’s mind boggling. I’d rather have a 12 year old madden player than Kyle Shanahan
@@SalKhayer the only embarrassment is Kyle’s coaching in the 2nd half of big playoff games
Stop man
Just think if the 49ners would have spent those 3 first round picks wisely
If nothing else, the 49er story, over the next few years, is going to be interesting.
49ers aren't going to change anything drastically. Try to get better on the O line and hope Brock takes another step forward.
If they had lions o line Sf or kc would be unstoppable.
@@charleskotovich4102 Imagine Purdy in the Eagles. Oh no, they only had Kelce, Johnson, Devonta Smith and AJ Brown, not "the Avengers".... /s
Purdy went against the “better defense” and still had a better game than Lamar. These guys move the goal posts every time
lamar kicked purdys teeth in stop it
@@nikjulez74 LOL not in the playoffs.
And they said Lamar choked again in the playoff, so who care if Purdy had a better game than Lamar?
@@ultravenia patty beat them both but the winner of the SB was coming out the AFC regardless
@@nikjulez74 Actually it was Baltimores defense. Lamar had an good game/
Brees stats were significantly worst than Purdys until his 6th year in practically every single qb category. Obviously after that he was amazing, but saying he plays like Drew Brees isn’t saying he’s actually Drew Brees, but that’s potentially his ceiling.
Purdy this year was more efficient than Mahomes at any point in his career when you average his stats by his attempts. If you give him Drew Brees' attempts this season he breaks the NFL total touchdown record and yards record by quite a lot.
Did Brees play with a stacked roster though? No, the Saints were significantly worse as a roster and Brees certainly didnt' have the best running back in the NFL. Remember that Purdy has the BEST roster in the NFL. That's why this is insulting to Brees.
So the Niner's should get rid of Purdy so they can try and find a better QB that will still not be as good as Mahomes but could be as bad as Zach Wilson. All because Brock couldn't beat the team and best player in the league. But Nick isn't hating on Purdy!
The O-line sucks!!!
"I'm not attacking Purdy." Proceeds to use Purdy as the problem, twice.
Here’s why the narrative is unfair for Brock. They’re not saying anything at all about how Kyle went away from the run game in the 3rd quarter which kept KC in the game. Not only that, but went empty backfield the majority of the time. But when Baltimore does, they blame the coaching for the loss and nothing about Lamar. We were running the ball very well against KC in both Super Bowls. There was NO reason to start spreading everyone out, especially against that pass defense. It will never make sense to me
It wasn't Purdy.. It was Bad Coaching... Stop Running in the 3rd, Calling receiving plays for Deebo after seeing him go out with a Hamstring & Defense Replacement Linebacker kept getting Burned
They played the run and KC's DB's were better than the 9ers wide outs. Purdy was the best player on the offense.
CMC was the best player on the 49ers offense, why dont you try to trade him away and see how they do next year.
@@tigera6 They would do good. I find it funny how you fail to understand why the Niners can run the ball so well. CMC is a special player but he was not the best offensive player in that game.
@@tigera6 How many fumbles did Purdy lose again?
@@byronsmith3152 They have no concept of play action.
@@byronsmith3152 Was they able to run the ball so well before CMC arrive? They didnt runt he ball as well in the SB but it kept them in control and the KC defense in check.
Why are they acting like Purdy didn't play well against the best defense in the NFL?
Hello? Lmfao
He didn't he had like 4 ints
@@nextin_dabuilding2908 In your diseased mind maybe.
You put any top QB who making 50mil/year next to that performance, it wont be considered "play well" especially if the team lost. Mahomes would be killed by critics if he was to have the same game that Purdy had.
Newsflash - SF had the best defense in the NFL. Like it or not - Purdy lost with a stacked roster. He essentially choked when he was favored.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl No he didn't choke, and no they didn't have the best defense at all. You just watched narratives, not the NFL this year. Unless you're dumb enough to believe Purdy should have blocked Chris Jones AND thrown the ball accurately.
Wildes is a legend for that last comment🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
Fact: Drew Brees can no longer throw with his right arm after surgery. He said this a few months back and is learning to throw left.
Bro, honestly I know Patrick mahomes it’s probably the goat atm. But, really a miss PAT and that Punt hitting the 49ers player help the “goat” to win the Super Bowl. I mean, I know this things happens in sports and it is part of it, but Brock played a good game to win as well.
Purdy played better then mahomes so did hurts last year and drew brees said he sees himself in purdy maybe if you guys watched football you would know that
Keep Shanahan. A missed block on the last play cost them, seriously? No one blocking Jones?
49ers need to invest in the right side of the O-line.
It's funny whenever they compare Brock to a QB it's always a retired legend or a QB that currently plays that has at least 4 to 5 more years in the league than Brock. How about we let Brock be a starter for 5 or 6 years then you can compare him to a legend or a current great QB. It's not fair to him to prepare him to a legend or a current great QB 😁
It's not about him being as good as them. It's his style of play.
We should only compare him to players with a similarly miniscule sample size? That doesn't make sense.
I love how they make fun of Purdy fans simply because he doesn't have HOF numbers and performances and act as though it is ridiculous to even think he can get to that level during his career. No one thought Brady would be in the HOF until well into his career, but no one got mocked when they said Brady looks good and can become a great QB. Instead they treat Purdy like he a Make-A-Wish kid and the only people not in on the joke are Purdy fans.
First time Wright has said anything positive about Brees, and it was just to take a shot at Purdy lol
Niners lost in every way that had nothing to do with purdy, yet nick says they need a better qb when he was the only competent player for the niners. Nick deep down knows he was embarrassingly wrong about purdy
purdy missed 2 throws for TD's - that's on him. Your QB needs to go win it. You're trying to say he can play passive and give him credit for that. He didn't go take it, which is what you need to do to beat Mahomes. It's on him just as much, because he could've been better. He got exposed against the Ravens so we'll see how next year goes now that he will be hunted.
What were drews stats in his first two years
Reboot? Our media is so absurd it hurts my brain.
If Purdy is not “that guy” I would shudder to think what “that guy” would have done to the Chiefs 😂
If moodys extra point hits it could of been a whole different game but who knows
Didn't Brock outplay Mahomes for 3.75 qrs?
Yeah but he aint outplay him .25 so that's 100% loss😂
@@Phillip-py7pc agreed, but look how they treated him vs love and goff. They torched him because he played bad for a time then came back to win. Why the dbl standards?
@tristankrager9789 no its a double standard when it come to Mahomes nobody else
@@Phillip-py7pc true
The “coach” seems to forget that Chris Jones was up in his face nearly every other play in the second half. If he’s such a “coach” he should acknowledge the Oline took a major nose dive. Purdy was the most positive thing about that SB for the niners.
I'd add Moody. Dude came thru for a rookie. If he had made that xp but missed one of the 50+ yard fg we lose in regulation. Conley and Jennings also showed up
CMac
Still taking shots at Purdy lol... If not for that fumbled punt, Mahomes wouldn't be the guy either on Sunday
Without the fumbled punt or the missed EP
No one is taking shots at purdy
Every year w Niner fans there's "that one play" that cost them the Super Bowl lol
@@CJStew06 depends on the play. Saying Jimmy overthrowing Sanders cost us is hilarious because Jimmy could never make that throw to begin with, it was a dumb play call. Saying a fumble that led to 7 points in a tight game that went to OT isn't a stretch at all however
@@CJStew06More than one play. Couching, defense petering out at the end, errors, and our oline being practically non-existent. So way more than one play. One play might have started the downfall, but let's be honest, both sides were extremely messy. How many fumbles were in that game?
To Be fair they traded what 3 firsts to go get Trey Lance......At that time you could have gotten Brady for 2.
This
Brock Purdy played well enough to win. He didn't cost them the game play calling lost them that game.
Oh and Mahomes is the GOAT 🐐
Purdy played like a game manager - didn't cost them the game, but didnt' play well enough to win.
Wright and Mangini are dishonest and immature. No one is saying Purdy is Brees NOW. People are simply saying he has similar qualities to him, as well as build.
For Nick there's no gray area. Either a player is exactly like Drew Brees or their names shouldn't even be uttered in the same sentence. It's weird, and entirely misrepresentative both of how people feel about and talk about Purdy atm.
But why be dishonest about his success? He was the 9th most efficient QB in NFL history this year. He only had 444 attempts and got 4200 yards and 31 touchdowns. When Peyton won an MVP he got 4500, 33 touchdowns, on 600+ attempts.....
Looks like wont ever now Brees never lost a Super Bowl oh and who did he win it against
@@baileysimmons6547 Brock has never lost in the divisional round or missed a playoff birth. I guess he's better.
Let’s not forget than Brady wanted to go there TWICE they he indeed had the opportunity to go get that guy and they declined him twice
Wildes is trying to get excommunicated from the chiefs again with that jab at the end 😂
How could KC fans get mad at facts?
I'll trade you the Cowboys entire coaching staff and dak for Shanahan in a second.
Right? Tired of these spoiled jerks.
The mistake was getting away from the run in the 3rd quarter. Even with the unfortunate special teams plays I think that had the 9ers stayed committed to running it in the 3rd they would have come away with more points and controlled the game. You have a young QB starting his 1st SB against Terminator Mahomes Kyle! Help the kid out. 3 straight throws after the INT! Next drive you start with an empty back field. I think Kyle called 6 passes to 1 run in those 2 drives. Why?? In the end this lose is on Kyle
Yup.cause mahomes wouldn't have had any time left after Moody fg . Kyle is the worst
He actually called 8 passes out of 9 plays on the 3 straight 3 and outs. Most coming with an empty backfield.
@@byronsmith3152 that's where they lost the game and that's why the players were gutted after the loss. They knew
@@hectoriouslazarous7038 Exactly. The HC keeps making the same dumb errors.
I don’t understand these guys that still need to see more from Brock lol.
Uh Brock got us to the NFC Championship last year, got us to the Superbowl this year, if the pattern continues then next year we win it all
Good game manager.
Brock proved that QB isn’t the niners issue. Shanahan is the issue.. He is a great offensive mind but not a head coach or at least elite enough head coach to beat Andy Reid. Andy is the real MVP he Totally panzed Shanahan again.. smh
For the record, that quote by Mike Florio wasn’t in full. He went on to say, in essence “I think it would be stupid for them to part ways, they shouldn’t do it.” He’s simply raising the question because we’ve seen great coaches start fresh somewhere else in the past.
oh coach, Drew Purdy is a good one. I'm keeping that and will use all offseason and next year.
Wtf. NO NICK KYLE 0ASSED ON BRADY TWICE!! WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT. HE ALSO PASSED ON RODGERS. THESE TALKING HEADS ARE CLUELESS
The Chiefs defense carried Patrick Mahomes the majority of the game. Against the 49ers zone coverage defense, Mahomes only threw 8 out of 34 passes over 5 yards. And he threw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage. Patrick Mahomes did not play a good game. Mahomes made some plays in OT and the OT plays padded his stats. But overall, he didn't play a good game.
2:48 Wildes nailed it right there
He was *JUST IN OT w/ Mahomes* 🙄
Last I checked, the goal of playing in the SB is to win. No one cares about 2nd place. At the end of the day, Purdy lost with a stacked roster.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl took mahomes to his limits. Keep moving the goal posts 🤡
Wildes your great man.
I’m glad your taking up for Brock Purdy
I'm with Wildes...kinda hard to feel sorry for the Niners when you have the Avengers on your roster. They didn't lose because of Purdy - they lost because they stopped running the ball, their special teams made mistakes & their defense couldn't stop Mahomes in the 4th qtr.
Every team has talented players. This whole avengers label is beyond dumb. And I will even use facts to help out here. How did those Avengers do in the game. Deebo, BA, Kittle had 9 catches combined. CMC had a terrible fumble that cost the team potential points. Williams destroyed an entire drive with his penalties. Even with all that, Purdy had the Niners winning the game every time he stepped off the field. Especially in the 4th quarter.
@@byronsmith3152 First off, even the Avengers make mistakes - they're human. But there is a reason you did not see the Panthers or the Giants or a dozen other teams in the Super Bowl that may, or may not, have "talented players" - it's because those talented players are not as good as the 49ers. The 49ers played the game with 7 All Pro's vs 3 for KC. The 49ers had 2 players finish in the top 5 for MVP. Their QB was #1 in the league in QBR. Same with their RB. Bosa was the #1 ranked DE. Kittle was #2 TE. 2 of the top 10 linebackers (including #1). 2 of the top 25 WR's. Stars everywhere - the Avengers label is accurate.
Now, per my original comment, part of the reason why they lost is that they stopped utilizing their #1 Avenger McCaffrey. The other offensive Avengers were "stymied" to a degree because of injury and the fact they were playing the #2 defense in the league. Second, the 49ers don't have Avengers on the special teams and it showed. Finally, the Niners lost an Avenger at LB during the game which hurt the defense thus assisting Mahomes in getting the game tying FG in the 4th qtr.
You can have a team of Avengers & still lose - sometimes the villains are better or, in this case, the Niners got outcoached.
@@robertdickson9319 Why is it that the niners are the only team in the NFL punished because of their talented players? Maybe just maybe if the teams you mentioned had a QB as good as Purdy, they would all have done better? Maybe the players earned the awards and votes they got by playing good football together instead of a collective of individuals. Eagles roster was LOADED. Dallas, loaded. No nicknames for the players on those teams I guess. And I agree, Purdy was not the reason they lost.
@@byronsmith3152 Nobody is "punishing" the Niners for their players - certainly not me. But I am willing to call out the fact that the Niners are loaded with good players - when you crush those other"loaded" teams head to head you can arguably say that you are the superior team in the NFC. And yes, no nicknames for an Eagles team that collapsed in the second half and no nicknames for a Dallas team that was hot & cold for much of the year & was arguably over-rated. Yes football is a team game and each player works off the results of his teammates - but it is far easier to have success in the NFL when you have more good players than the opposing team does. Purdy probably does not have the same success playing on Carolina for instance. It was clear going into the game that the Niners had the much more talented roster overall - thus they were the favorite.
@@robertdickson9319 I agree with you that the team is loaded with talent. I do however say that the Niners are the only ones getting labels. Even before the Eagles and Dallas got rolled. That however means nothing IF those players do not step up when it matters, like the SB. Let's talk about the one game. The game that matters the most in an NFL season. Those "avengers" did not show up. You know who did, Brock Purdy. And of course Purdy isn't taking the Panthers to the SB this year. No QB could have. Even Mahomes. Using that as any comparison is beyond dumb. I think Purdy playing on the Lions makes the SB. I think Purdy playing for Dallas and Philly make the Super Bowl. I also think that Mahomes playing for either of those teams most likely wins the Super Bowl. As far as having the most talented team over all was not the reason they were the favorites in the game. Think about it this way, if KC is a 3 point favorite, how many people do you think are taking that bet that LOVE the Chiefs but not at 3 as it would most likely go down as a push for you? Now let's make the Niners the favorite by 2.5. How many of those Bettors are talking KC in that scenario? I am a Niner homer and I easily take KC with the points. Now if the line was KC and 3 or above, I take the Niners. Look at the odds already for next year. Niners are favorites. Not because they may have the better team, but because they will have the easier path to the SB.
Shanahan and 49ers parting ways would be dumb, i can understand if they were losing in the division round every year
So we should be just like Dallas just say ok this is good smh
Idk, there's at least three clips coming out on uncalled holding penalties. Kinda ridiculous.
I don't understand why Kyle didn't use his time outs before it was 10 to 3 with only 20 seconds could have been more 😂
Kyle's in game awareness has always been an issue. That includes clock management.
The Chiefs only reached overtime thanks to a missed field goal attempt by the 49ers and the guy is still blaming the quarterback. This is so incredibly stupid.
youre very narrowminded if u think thats the only reason... its on the whole team...def didnt close out.. ST had miscues and off did nothing after turnovers and coaches didnt do their job either
IF Butker missed that 57y FG, you think critics will blame him or Mahomes for KC loss? Everyone would be saying Mahomes didnt get it done this time.
@@lassemelson5668 Narrowminded or not, you can spin it any way you want, the fact remains the same: if the 49ers had scored that one point, they would have won the SB, and the general discourse around the game would have been entirely different, even though the only actual in-game difference would have been that one FG attempt. It says something about the sheer stupidity of blaming it on the QB.
@@tigera6 And that would be equally stupid.
@@maniravsadhur8409 Probably, but thats how it has been for the star player / QB on the teams. They got more credit than actual contribution for the win, but also get more blame for the loss.
5:10. Donovan McNabb
The Dak Prescott of his day
Yep.
McNabb actually went to a NFC championship game.
@@AiilmanF2P Dink-and-Dak's career isn't over
No, he's more like Aaron Rodgers actually. Gets to the NFC Championship over and over, but loses almost all of them
Donovan McNabb was wayyyyyy better than Dak Prescott lol
Brock has continually improved his game each time. Mind you, he is only in his 2nd year. First full year, I think he is doing amazingly well. If he continues on his course of improving his game, he will be one of the greats. He has already reached a level very few of our 49ers QBs have reached.
As a Chiefs fan: Brock played so well.
I don't see any other QB completing most of their passes when facing down a free-blitzing Chris Jones.
Exactly. It Chris Freaken JONES. For me, he is the ONLY guy you should worry about on that dline, period. This is twice now where he literally took over the game in the 2nd half. He was the MVP for the Chiefs in that game and it was not even close. No Jones, Purdy shreds that top ranked pass D.
Yeah I knew the haters were right when Brock Purdy lost that fumble in the opening drive, touched that punt, and threw the only INT that game. Biggest one though was missing that extra point. Oh wait he did none of those miscues.
No, they were right when he missed 2 TD throws, just like Garoppalo, despite having a stacked roster. This dude is a game manager.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Dude, you're obsessed with hating. Don't you have homework?
Just ridiculous, this franchise was a dumpster fire before Kyle was their.
There may be doubts over his ability to win the big games, however don’t let that overshadow the fact that he can consistently get you to those big games in the first place. Also, idk why people are neglecting the fact that he’s only 44. Which is basically equivalent to having a 21 year old Quarterback.
Who couldn't have got this team to the super bowl? seriously name someone. Then name the games that Kyle being the coach made a differences. Won in spite of him vs gb and det.
@@kenw2225Kyle and John built this team lmao
Blocked xtra point was the difference!
Drew Brees accuracy is above all…can’t compare
You guys better post that Mahomes mountain from today
Nick needs to stop knocking Purdy. That kid played great. Mahomes when running had no calls for offensive holding all year when that’s all his OL did. Purdy will be great.
Wildes said Purdy is closer to Drew Brees in SB’s then mahomes is to Brady!!! 😂
Purdy needs to learn how to check his protections, audible, call timeouts when the offense needs to reset.
You need to learn what he is and is not allowed to do in that offense. I will give you a hint, he did everything right...
Maybe if he has a training camp and preseason as a starter, he'll get better. Did you realize he hasn't had that yet?