I just ordered a Motenergy waterproof ME1719 6KW continuous 15Kw Peak motor to try on this! Subscribe to my channel to follow the progress on this build! Would love to hear your suggestions for future mods! Cheers mates!
Please keep it electric, too much change and too much replacement parts or more than the absolute necessary will kill the point of having the cheapest car and making something very fun out of it. At least for me, its best when the upgrade are done thw short st and simplest routs, that is ingenuity after all. Love your qork and hope this channel grows.
Thank you for your comments! I agree that there is something special about EV's that make them more enjoyable to drive. FoxxyYT pointed out a motor that I'm very interested in trying on this project. Ultimately it's going to be up to the owner as this is not my car. I'm just doing the mods on it. I'm trying to talk him into the QS138 90H which I think would be a great fit for this car. Cheers!
@@3dconceptsofutah757 I have build electric dirtbike with qs 138 70h and it got about 30kw of power but controller didn't have alot of phase amps but it was still very fast. Qs 138 90h with 800A to 1000A phase amps and 103v battery would make this thing unstopable.
Thanks for your comment! Friday a bigger 6KW continuous ME1719 motor from Motenergy is showing up! These are both getting a nice boost with those new electric motors. Any thoughts of going gas have been squashed by the owner and I. Thanks for following!
This is very cool. I think the thing I've hated most about these is the whimpy motor and the whimpy tires. With the bigger tires it looks so much better. Read you got a 6kw motor to try next which is what I would of gone to as well. Subed and excited for the next video!
Thanks! Yes I'm sending the new motor mount to the laser cutter right now! The new motor is crazy big 15KW peak! Hope it doesn't shred the axle before I get to play with it for a bit
Got the 6kw in last night! I was sad it didn't breath fire like I hoped ;-D It does feel much more powerful but not insane like I'm after. On to the next bottleneck in the power train which is the batteries and cabling....
I was wondering how long it would be before someone upgraded the motor in one of these. Now you just need to switch it over to LiFePo4 batteries and you will get some range out of it too.
Stock they only go 18mph and no the dash doesn't show the speed correctly. Way over what it really is! I use a GPS bike speedometer to take measurements.
Love your modification. Those cars are called OLD man's transportation, no driver's license needed, speed not to exceed 25 km/h. It really for OLD men and women to grocery stores, pick up grand kids after their school, and so on.
I've been shopping around for an EV to drive in Cali, and I keep finding this issue with range. Is it difficult to covert solar power to charge the car while in motion?
It would have to be a pretty big panel to make a difference but you could do it. I would not count on a solar panel extending range too much. You could probably fit about 200 watts of panel on the roof if you are lucky. The car stock and way underpowered has a 1kw motor. If you were just cruising and using around 500 watts of power and generating 200 watts in full sun you would be operating at a 300 watt deficit. When you factor in the losses from whatever hardware you would need between the panels and batteries, benefits would be lower than that. However, if you left it parked it could charge it over time.
@@3dconceptsofutah757 good point. I wanted to buy an EV to doordash and utilize around town, but I don't want to run into the issue of charging it as I would with a traditional car needing ⛽ after driving. Any suggestions?
@@newmom1171 If you find a car with a large capacity (range rating) You could find something that might work. Do you live in a small town that would allow a golf cart to drive around town? That's essentially what these ones are. There are more serious EV's out there that you could bring around town. Might be better to get something like a used real car EV like a Nissan Leaf or something.... Cheers!
If I can convince the owner to go for the QS138 90H I'm going to attempt to mount it without the chain which adds a considerable amount of noise. Then it will be more stealthy for hunting expeditions ;-D
Great setup. The original motor actually looks pretty good internally. Its an IPM motor, so very good for flux weakening (overspeed) and would probably handle similar power to the Kunray motor, especially with the kelly controller. Best of luck with the continuing build process ✌️
Bob, thank you for the comment and insight on the motor! I have wondered what would have happened if I had just thrown the Kelly controller on that stock motor! It's OK though because it has pushed me forward with the mods I wanted to do to the car anyway. Cheers!
Yes check out my newer video where I show replacement batteries in the red Chang. There are Amazon links to the batteries I used. They are better than stock
I just ordered a Motenergy waterproof ME1719 6KW continuous 15Kw Peak motor to try on this! Subscribe to my channel to follow the progress on this build! Would love to hear your suggestions for future mods! Cheers mates!
Air ride suspension. Lift it up to go off road and back down to drive home lol.
@@CronoCarGuy Sounds expensive but cool !
@@3dconceptsofutah757 Heck yeah! Can't wait to see a lithium upgrade and the new motor installed!
@@3dconceptsofutah757 how fast have you gotten it to go now? I'm wanting 40+mph
Please keep it electric, too much change and too much replacement parts or more than the absolute necessary will kill the point of having the cheapest car and making something very fun out of it. At least for me, its best when the upgrade are done thw short st and simplest routs, that is ingenuity after all. Love your qork and hope this channel grows.
Thank you for your comments! I agree that there is something special about EV's that make them more enjoyable to drive. FoxxyYT pointed out a motor that I'm very interested in trying on this project. Ultimately it's going to be up to the owner as this is not my car. I'm just doing the mods on it. I'm trying to talk him into the QS138 90H which I think would be a great fit for this car. Cheers!
@@3dconceptsofutah757 much anticipation
@@3dconceptsofutah757 I have build electric dirtbike with qs 138 70h and it got about 30kw of power but controller didn't have alot of phase amps but it was still very fast. Qs 138 90h with 800A to 1000A phase amps and 103v battery would make this thing unstopable.
Do Stay Electric ..... on the whole it would be more of a challenge....once you turn this into a hoon car, it will get boring.
Thanks for your comment! Friday a bigger 6KW continuous ME1719 motor from Motenergy is showing up! These are both getting a nice boost with those new electric motors. Any thoughts of going gas have been squashed by the owner and I. Thanks for following!
I've been wanting to see someone mod this.
This is very cool. I think the thing I've hated most about these is the whimpy motor and the whimpy tires. With the bigger tires it looks so much better. Read you got a 6kw motor to try next which is what I would of gone to as well. Subed and excited for the next video!
Thanks! Yes I'm sending the new motor mount to the laser cutter right now! The new motor is crazy big 15KW peak! Hope it doesn't shred the axle before I get to play with it for a bit
Got the 6kw in last night! I was sad it didn't breath fire like I hoped ;-D It does feel much more powerful but not insane like I'm after. On to the next bottleneck in the power train which is the batteries and cabling....
I would like to see it with as many mods as you can come up with but keep the electric ev not it's factory set
Yup, its going to stay electric. Just installed a big electric motor! New video will be out soon! Cheers!
@@3dconceptsofutah757 I'm waiting anxiously for the video
Very informative
That's exactly what I needed to see.
I was wondering how long it would be before someone upgraded the motor in one of these. Now you just need to switch it over to LiFePo4 batteries and you will get some range out of it too.
That would be nice! I might be trying to pull too much from these batteries anyway with the new motor I'm installing today!
@@3dconceptsofutah757 Might be? LOL none of the wiring on that thing is designed for a 6kw motor
how fast does it go and does the dash show the right speed?
Stock they only go 18mph and no the dash doesn't show the speed correctly. Way over what it really is! I use a GPS bike speedometer to take measurements.
Love your modification. Those cars are called OLD man's transportation, no driver's license needed, speed not to exceed 25 km/h. It really for OLD men and women to grocery stores, pick up grand kids after their school, and so on.
Thanks! Yeah well I'm 40 and I like it too ;-D
I've been shopping around for an EV to drive in Cali, and I keep finding this issue with range. Is it difficult to covert solar power to charge the car while in motion?
It would have to be a pretty big panel to make a difference but you could do it. I would not count on a solar panel extending range too much. You could probably fit about 200 watts of panel on the roof if you are lucky. The car stock and way underpowered has a 1kw motor. If you were just cruising and using around 500 watts of power and generating 200 watts in full sun you would be operating at a 300 watt deficit. When you factor in the losses from whatever hardware you would need between the panels and batteries, benefits would be lower than that. However, if you left it parked it could charge it over time.
@@3dconceptsofutah757 good point. I wanted to buy an EV to doordash and utilize around town, but I don't want to run into the issue of charging it as I would with a traditional car needing ⛽ after driving. Any suggestions?
@@newmom1171 If you find a car with a large capacity (range rating) You could find something that might work. Do you live in a small town that would allow a golf cart to drive around town? That's essentially what these ones are. There are more serious EV's out there that you could bring around town. Might be better to get something like a used real car EV like a Nissan Leaf or something....
Cheers!
Oh and why not work on the power supply and take it for a hunting trip for example!?
If I can convince the owner to go for the QS138 90H I'm going to attempt to mount it without the chain which adds a considerable amount of noise. Then it will be more stealthy for hunting expeditions ;-D
Wow.
I thinking ecvt transmisdion is anoff
I wondered if I could use a CVT and electric motor together. Not a lot out there on doing that. Not sure if it would work.
Great setup. The original motor actually looks pretty good internally. Its an IPM motor, so very good for flux weakening (overspeed) and would probably handle similar power to the Kunray motor, especially with the kelly controller. Best of luck with the continuing build process ✌️
Bob, thank you for the comment and insight on the motor! I have wondered what would have happened if I had just thrown the Kelly controller on that stock motor! It's OK though because it has pushed me forward with the mods I wanted to do to the car anyway. Cheers!
A predator engine awesome
It would have been cool but it now has a 24HP electric motor. Video coming soon ;-D
I want to see a drop test and how much clearance of travel there is. I love it thinking of getting one myself
The frame might snap in half if you dropped it ;-D
There better cars 3 wheels Chang li and car that look like mini coopers get them and put old engine and hit a mini hand price
Looks good did you have to trim to fit the tires?
Thank you! Oh yes a lot of trimming! In fact I need to trim more and move a couple things
@@3dconceptsofutah757 give it some A arms
@@j5892000 That would be much better for sure. I'll see if I get that far with it!
@@3dconceptsofutah757 should be cool. Mayby a rear swing arm type suspension like on a dirt bike
Make more videos with the changil
Try PLUM QUICK motor and controller set up I’ve built a couple of carts with this set up and some of them will do 80mph +
Thanks for the tip! I've been on the hunt for golf cart performance parts. I'm modifying a cart for a friend right now. Which components do you run?
Harbor freight motor plus original electric motor assist. Sounds pretty sick.
Cool idea! There's not much room for extra stuff though ;-D
How did has a ad
Huh?
hi what all short range electric car need is a trailer with a generator maybe a one wheel spin type with 2 hinge type mounts will give more range
Locomotive style!
Hi. Im having a tought time trying to figure out what replacement batteries i need for my chang li. It has 5 batteries. Can you recommend some please?
Yes check out my newer video where I show replacement batteries in the red Chang. There are Amazon links to the batteries I used. They are better than stock
Sorry, i could not find the Amazon link you mentioned
super cool!
This is a center driver uh..👍👍👍
Yeah, They realized no one wants that and fixed it in the newer model ;-D
I want a little Die-cast of this car.. 🤣
Maybe McDonald's would make a happy meal toy 😅
Hey i want to suggest something but via email. Whats your mail?
3dconceptsutah@gmail.com
3Dconceptsutah@gmail.com
What is ur current top speed?
37mph. Stock is 15. Thanks for subscribing by the way!. It's way sketchy at top speed suspension design and steering are horrible 😂
now that's something you can call a "car". nicee.
I'd love to see this with a 450-1000cc swap. It would rip
That would be awesome! First it would need custom independent suspension. Stock suspension is horrible and unstable
I'm wondering if a graft from an atv would be possible. Right down to the rear diff and all.
Or maybe suspension from a UTV? Or Mazda miata even.
Where did you buy your changli from?
Alibaba directly from Changli
From Alibaba and directly from Changli's factory
Gracias por compartir
Thank you!
It's almost like you're designing a home built hybrid.
Really curious to see where this mad mechanics science ends up🤓
Thanks for the comment ;-D
Since the front bumper is already screwed up, just take it off and fab up a winch bumper
That would rock! A real light bar, reliable axles, AWD..... ;-D
So energetic 😅 anyways we’re able to get this registered? I’m trying to do that in md.
I haven't tried registering this thing yet. Might someday...
My state defines it as a low speed vehicle
Very impressive. I should like to see the gas engine conversion.
Thank you! It actually has a bigger electric motor now. Video to come soon