How my best friend betrayed me and stole 3 years of my life work

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  • @philisntcool.
    @philisntcool. ปีที่แล้ว +37122

    the fact packgod actually sat down and handled this like a mature adult is actually really showing how serious this is.

    • @akstin
      @akstin ปีที่แล้ว +468

      the simplest way to get everything back from him is to sue him, because if the damage or something is more than $20 you can sue. idk if this is how it works but still its an option

    • @philisntcool.
      @philisntcool. ปีที่แล้ว +246

      @@akstin i know a tad about law and i do think it would be possible to sue. pack and leg shared multiple social media accounts all of which they shared the revenue of assuming no revenue from anything was being shared with pack therr is probably over $1000 worth of money he was scammed out of. if im correct he might also be able to sue him for public defamation due to the p phile claims but then again thats a huge stretch as it just claims being made through discord. but yes court would be an option for pack if he wanted his revenue from leg.

    • @nBlackyHVH
      @nBlackyHVH ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@philisntcool. yes he could do it

    • @CatsRuleMeow123
      @CatsRuleMeow123 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      1300th Like!!!!! Cats!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤ Who’s The Cats Meow Challenge?!?!!?!???!!!!??

    • @josephmother-zg7vs
      @josephmother-zg7vs ปีที่แล้ว +25

      well, it is an actual financial situation that leg chose not to cooperate.

  • @carljohnson_gsf
    @carljohnson_gsf ปีที่แล้ว +27275

    Look where he is now. Packgod's success just proves that he never did need Leg, and was truly a talented individual.

    • @Grugged
      @Grugged ปีที่แล้ว +149

      True

    • @insertusername310
      @insertusername310 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      And he got some help from KSI

    • @klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik
      @klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik ปีที่แล้ว +354

      It's still quite sad he lost all of his contacts though. I hope he got them back at some point.

    • @EveIar
      @EveIar ปีที่แล้ว +257

      and if u look at leg hes failing his shit rn

    • @TailGreat
      @TailGreat ปีที่แล้ว +79

      and he did it all without a leg

  • @blep6240
    @blep6240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97507

    this feels like a divorce but suddenly your wife just takes the kids and ghost you.

    • @juanpablodelossanto7220
      @juanpablodelossanto7220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2791

      oddly specific

    • @CLAN_LIL
      @CLAN_LIL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or when she jus takes his p

    • @Alex-yr8iy
      @Alex-yr8iy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1753

      Only difference is the woman will win custody of children even if the man has evidence but pack can win back his yt channels and accounts back if he sued leg

    • @serematic
      @serematic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +273

      @@Alex-yr8iy oh he will do that, he mentioned that in a diss track

    • @samso7267
      @samso7267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      that's called kidnapping.

  • @eldendova5910
    @eldendova5910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    Just got this vid recommended by yt and am like who tf is leg lmaoooo.

    • @yikesdices
      @yikesdices 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i fukin know right lmao

    • @cuteKirby-l8y
      @cuteKirby-l8y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I remember when that beef began. Literally called him a pedo without any damn proof his plan didn't go very well

    • @BelacomTechnologiesLimited
      @BelacomTechnologiesLimited 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      same

    • @Support_service42
      @Support_service42 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A friend of pack God that betrayed him he tells you that though

    • @JansenMerritt
      @JansenMerritt 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@cuteKirby-l8yhe did.

  • @JACKAL-l7s
    @JACKAL-l7s ปีที่แล้ว +15000

    Being betrayed by a Best Friend is always the worst and most hurtful kind of betrayal.

    • @kingsansskelton6495
      @kingsansskelton6495 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Ikr. Had it happen before. It really hurts you man.

    • @DankKrank
      @DankKrank ปีที่แล้ว +132

      The only other worst type of betrayal is your own family, god forbid your own parents

    • @mmmmmmmmmmm10
      @mmmmmmmmmmm10 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Wait till it's your wife

    • @JACKAL-l7s
      @JACKAL-l7s ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@DankKrank I agree

    • @ThatMightyFynny
      @ThatMightyFynny ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I was about to cry ngl

  • @damonke6228
    @damonke6228 ปีที่แล้ว +15304

    wanna know what's crazy? This man got 1.42M after all of this, I don't know how long this took but You are a hardworking man. we love you Packgod.

    • @jamie4332
      @jamie4332 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      5 months, pretty fast

    • @vardrids
      @vardrids ปีที่แล้ว +162

      and now hes at 1.54 mill less then a week he gained more then 100k, he growin fast, 2 mill up soon 💯

    • @HeyItzSpider
      @HeyItzSpider ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@vardrids wait wtf? he's at 1.9 now. did bro get 400k in 20 hours

    • @vardrids
      @vardrids ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@HeyItzSpider he’s only at 1.56 lmao

    • @HeyItzSpider
      @HeyItzSpider ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@vardrids my dumbass was looking at the views bruh LMAO

  • @LuvAndreas
    @LuvAndreas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12707

    Packgod got my respect, faith, and belief. This man carried the channel, I seen it first hand during my time working with void. He deserves some respect on his name

    • @Zylohex
      @Zylohex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +308

      Idk how people are on legs side, he's not that convincing he's just another damn scammer

    • @ChrolloMyAss
      @ChrolloMyAss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@Zylohex
      Exactly

    • @jojoscustoms
      @jojoscustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      which leg
      left or right

    • @Safff848
      @Safff848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@jojoscustoms the one in the middle

    • @jojoscustoms
      @jojoscustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@Safff848 gasp

  • @nooobiechild
    @nooobiechild 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4540

    Packgod at void: 400k
    Packgod alone: 4 million
    I'm starting to think Packgod wasn't the problem. He's the solution.
    *EDIT*: I GET IT GUYS, HE HAS MORE THAN 583 BILLION SUBSCRIBERS NOW.

    • @Nothing10292
      @Nothing10292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      4.6m u mean

    • @Mr-Rocket-1
      @Mr-Rocket-1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      4.65m u mean

    • @md.tanjilsarwar8831
      @md.tanjilsarwar8831 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@Mr-Rocket-1He just hit 4.66 Million 8 hours later.

    • @OG-AMIR
      @OG-AMIR 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Nothing10292🤓 👆

    • @lynxxare3774
      @lynxxare3774 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      U mean 4.67m?

  • @airman4284
    @airman4284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32213

    Leg's the type of person that doesn't do the work in a group project, but takes all the credit for himself.

    • @emotionz920
      @emotionz920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +807

      Well that’s literally what he did so yeah

    • @BlueTP0
      @BlueTP0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@emotionz920credit to you cause I was gonna say the same thing but lemme change it, that’s what he did.

    • @Asura92817
      @Asura92817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      He just like me fr fr

    • @aym_gei9708
      @aym_gei9708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      and he isnt even that type to present for not working on the project 💀💀

    • @chrisbrochu3663
      @chrisbrochu3663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      He’s the kid who plays his phone all class but demands his name be written first

  • @zNightmxre
    @zNightmxre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9970

    Feels great knowing you're growing more than legs. Karma is hell. Good luck with hitting 1 million subs!

    • @superhat45
      @superhat45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      💀

    • @pancakes7289
      @pancakes7289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up

    • @giovannaridenti7193
      @giovannaridenti7193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wassup nightmxre

    • @eskimo5973
      @eskimo5973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      He hit it and I’m his one millionth sub and I have video proof too

    • @raygen1069
      @raygen1069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@eskimo5973 k

  • @BSPancake
    @BSPancake ปีที่แล้ว +22047

    This is something you can definitely sue. Any lawyer who hasn't been lobotomized could easily win this case for you. Do it.

    • @subwoofa9313
      @subwoofa9313 ปีที่แล้ว +1020

      Yep, no joke, you have you're own proven evidence and streams of proof to show your time and effort, which is equivalent to money. Do your thorough research as well and please make sure leg doesn't gain any success. Life isn't right atm. Time to start fixing it!

    • @CloudyyGoated
      @CloudyyGoated ปีที่แล้ว +309

      didn't Leg flee to Europe💀

    • @saramorin4792
      @saramorin4792 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      this is over a year ago

    • @gagemonster555
      @gagemonster555 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saramorin4792 be that as it may the statute of limitations on copyright infringement is 3 years
      and fraud is 7 years

    • @chancerichards9176
      @chancerichards9176 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @@subwoofa9313don’t give him a LEG up 😅 also, who are these people? I have no clue

  • @insanecritic792
    @insanecritic792 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    a year ago packgod lost seamingly everything. Now a year later and he's one of the biggest TH-camrs in his genre making collabs with others. TBH this event was probably the best thing for him looking back. Good job packgod, we love ya

    • @swagmaster1014
      @swagmaster1014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      man your so corny bro, anyone who listens to packgod is just a clown and has the worst humour

  • @astronomical952
    @astronomical952 ปีที่แล้ว +6523

    I wouldn't consider myself a packgod fan but I'm extremely happy he was able to recover from this shitty situation, it's absurd how people can betray you like that

    • @Epsiloniiii
      @Epsiloniiii ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Honestly not either but I heard about it and was interested

    • @pinto-the-horse
      @pinto-the-horse ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yea it's crazy to thing about that my trust to people went down to 0 from now on lol

    • @Alfakenybodee
      @Alfakenybodee ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Humans are intelligent and cunning creatures man.

    • @morecalls
      @morecalls ปีที่แล้ว

      man you guys are idiots, packgod switched up on leg and is talking about suing leg😂 packgod is a goof and will always be a goofy loser. the guy cant even pack real packers bro is nothing, another thing leg shared with packgod after 4 years of owning everything and you would think packgod wouldve sued the guy by now🤷

    • @3xeplodng_3agle_studios
      @3xeplodng_3agle_studios ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@Alfakenybodeestatistically its usually not the more intelligent ones with that sort behavior though. Please don't insult smart people like that. 😂

  • @DC313
    @DC313 ปีที่แล้ว +5630

    I literally only got recommended this video, but I already fully respect and support you. That Leg guy made a huge mistake of betraying you, but the guilt and consequences will last him a lifetime

    • @verticlax.
      @verticlax. ปีที่แล้ว +25

      dw its his villian arc

    • @oliverlynch7564
      @oliverlynch7564 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      bro ksi slammed on leg recently AND leg has only 177k on his old channel and 400k on his new one. what goes around comes around loll, packgod w

    • @maximoruiz6297
      @maximoruiz6297 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      666 likes lol

    • @Sten05
      @Sten05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should have stopped at the words leg is a mistake

    • @oddessy4307
      @oddessy4307 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

  • @Jace.1sEditz
    @Jace.1sEditz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8296

    Karma hits hard, look at you now. 4 million subscribers, all the people around you supported you lad. Keep.

    • @KM0922-r2x
      @KM0922-r2x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      yeah man you gotta love it

    • @Daddy_to_tact
      @Daddy_to_tact 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      ​@@D3enjoyer I'm 15 and I watch him

    • @tru_yt
      @tru_yt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@D3enjoyer yikes? im also 15 and watch him, i dont really see a problem

    • @THETAFI2
      @THETAFI2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@D3enjoyer Some of them might be but atleast they are mature than you 💀🤣.

    • @THETAFI2
      @THETAFI2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@D3enjoyer Nothing but you commenting shit makes you immature soo...

  • @reptaial
    @reptaial 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1630

    and now it’s “who tf is Leg”

    • @BunbunMapAnimations
      @BunbunMapAnimations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Bro doesn’t know the beef bruh this was around 2021 or 2022

    • @arandomuser7184
      @arandomuser7184 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

      @@BunbunMapAnimations The thing is no one knows leg anymore.

    • @burg9r
      @burg9r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Does his YT channel still exists?

    • @Ummehani-ml9wt
      @Ummehani-ml9wt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      No he selled it ​@burg9r

    • @Protont
      @Protont 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ummehani-ml9wt For how much?

  • @williamhiemstra4925
    @williamhiemstra4925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3441

    You handled this crazy well, big respect

    • @redlash1858
      @redlash1858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      How tf you donate in comments

    • @iBridgee
      @iBridgee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@redlash1858 super thanks

    • @DeezNutz-cf2jf
      @DeezNutz-cf2jf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Fr how u do that shit

    • @lowlevelhaunt
      @lowlevelhaunt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      MrBeast 💀

    • @yourlocalmexicandog
      @yourlocalmexicandog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@lowlevelhaunt its still something

  • @siliswest498
    @siliswest498 ปีที่แล้ว +5387

    This dude got everything stolen from him and rebounded by over 1M, mad props dude.
    Edit: it's always the default pfp's isn't it?
    Edit the second: the Vietnam war is occurring in the reply section

    • @gagangomey7799
      @gagangomey7799 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Karma It is

    • @thegoodboy4699
      @thegoodboy4699 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Honestly sue the guy into obliviant he stole everything wouldn´t it be considert copyright or someting with the amount he stole.

    • @1theheightofparadise
      @1theheightofparadise ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@thegoodboy4699 probably can't sue because nothing was ever written in contract. if there was a contract in place that said how much money goes where and who actually owns the channel whether it be packgod, leg or both then this would have gone down differently.

    • @repairstudio4940
      @repairstudio4940 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Truth 🙏🏼😇

    • @clanwargods
      @clanwargods ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Big win

  • @KiwiPaws76
    @KiwiPaws76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9960

    Best way to describe Leg,
    “he’s like a toddler that ate his chocolate birthday cake, got caught, then blamed his mother for murder because he had no more cake”

    • @oddinx5953
      @oddinx5953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      Or like
      “A kid who climbed up the slide when their teacher told them not to, then panicked and decided to assault their teacher
      #cancelleg

    • @Zellwand
      @Zellwand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@oddinx5953nah

    • @sammix.
      @sammix. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      or its more like "the kid who tried to blow the candle from the birthday kid but failed and cries afterwards" or "the kid who wants the presents from the birthday party for the birthday kid"..

    • @lexcomplex1060
      @lexcomplex1060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      that reminded me of the story where a kid killed his own mother just because he couldn't buy a vr headset

    • @Dst4r
      @Dst4r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lexcomplex1060 I seen that like last week

  • @bk.dannaa
    @bk.dannaa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    my mom always told me to choose my friends wisely and now i see why…

  • @Zer00_ik
    @Zer00_ik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13779

    Leg And Packgod were like a unbeatable duo, Now the only thing that could break them were them selves

  • @sharpe2901
    @sharpe2901 ปีที่แล้ว +2951

    And I bet now, he completely regrets doing all this, because now you'll be more famous then he'll ever be. We love you, Packgod. Don't ever forget that.

    • @S0meRandumbDude42
      @S0meRandumbDude42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      holy shit no replies? I'ma fix that.

    • @tenn5360
      @tenn5360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@S0meRandumbDude42 (same lol)

    • @tenn5360
      @tenn5360 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      (I personally don't like or watch packgod but) this was wrong on legs part, and now look where they are.

    • @nspouf
      @nspouf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      fr tho

    • @geedeebeejay
      @geedeebeejay ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I doubt he ever thinks he is wrong regardless. Leg sounds like that dude who "finds" your wallet and all the money is gone.

  • @Vurta
    @Vurta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28721

    Leg's whole argument was:
    "Packgod is such a bad friend, I deserve better, and he stopped me from scamming someone 🤓"
    Guys it's been a year why do you all care so much

    • @GhostTrooper318
      @GhostTrooper318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lceCreamGuy he only did this for money and goes out of his way to steal his accounts and kicks him out of his own fucking discord and calls him a pedo for no reason and even sauted him and his family

    • @tekobot2737
      @tekobot2737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      he showed proof what us you saying

    • @paristyus853
      @paristyus853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That’s sad bro

    • @Lego_Vegito-n1x
      @Lego_Vegito-n1x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +521

      @@tekobot2737 nah, who’s side you on?

    • @tekobot2737
      @tekobot2737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Lego_Vegito-n1x Leg

  • @shambhavijha5779
    @shambhavijha5779 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +286

    I wish you put a case on him, this is ABSOLUTELY lawsuit worthy. it’s not personal at this point

    • @AtomiX-YT
      @AtomiX-YT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i dont think it would do anything now since this happened a year ago

    • @firetastic1182
      @firetastic1182 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@AtomiX-YT besides leg fell off and packgod is more famous than ever

    • @SquidGains
      @SquidGains 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Karma said I got this ​@@firetastic1182

  • @scoot9900
    @scoot9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14375

    Leg is truly a disgusting person, his friends are too. He deserves every peace of hate he gets. Pack has lost years of work because of an internet scuffle. His friends are terrible people. Doxing and threatening Packgod and his family. Leg is a terrible person and he couldn’t redeem himself. I discovered these people from Issacwhy, I didn’t realize how deep this went. I hope Isaac brings this up. You deserve support from him and the support from KSI, you have pushed yourself through hardship and I truly respect you. You deserve everything back.

    • @TrophyGuy45
      @TrophyGuy45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Packgod is racict

    • @TrophyGuy45
      @TrophyGuy45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      And leg made the void Channel too

    • @ryanmccarthy9033
      @ryanmccarthy9033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@TrophyGuy45 saying the n word doesn't automatically make you racist. If he's so racist then why is he working with leg for 3+ years since he's a person of color? u have lots of holes in ur logic.

    • @itzxero2672
      @itzxero2672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Funny how leg’s community is less toxic than packgod community

    • @ryanmccarthy9033
      @ryanmccarthy9033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +589

      @@itzxero2672 cause we the real ones that are rightfully upset

  • @Zhoaten
    @Zhoaten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6815

    This video was just randomly recommended to me. I don't know you or anyone else involved in this. I do, however, know what it is like to be betrayed by a best friend. I had half of my life savings stolen by someone that I trusted with my life. It's not easy for me to trust people anymore. Crazy how when someone so close to you does something so horrible... it has a negative effect on how you handle all of your future relationships for the rest of your life.

    • @luftblobs99
      @luftblobs99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Damn. Hope everything went well

    • @WorldKeepsSpinnin
      @WorldKeepsSpinnin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Idk man some people are just weird, probably a natural section thing the weirdo snakes ran away betraying their loyal friends and got to live and reproduce sadly. Shows how important loyalty and trust is though, since theres still alot of us out there with it. Alot of snakes but alot of great people also.

    • @crapadopoulos
      @crapadopoulos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Same i have no idea who these guys are but best of luck to PACKGOD

    • @LuckSMTS
      @LuckSMTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same dude, I had a guild that I built in a game that I played non stop when I was younger and it was stolen from me by a very close online friend. Sad times but probably not as bad as your situation because I was able to trust again, maybe not as much as before though.

    • @SnowMexicann
      @SnowMexicann 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might wanna watch Legs stuff as well. I was on packgods side originally but nah this mfer is not only a scammer, making up bs to get leg bad attention but he also dates minors 💀

  • @lordmpfree4564
    @lordmpfree4564 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2017

    Betrayed by leg, got even more popular without him
    Absolute power move

    • @Papayiaaa
      @Papayiaaa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The absolute uno reverse

    • @YBDom
      @YBDom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Who tf even is leg fr

    • @bluebearydti
      @bluebearydti 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YBDomur not an og then

    • @YBDom
      @YBDom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lordmpfree4564 no like I know who he is I’m just referring to the fact that leg ain’t got nothing on packgod I’m very much og.

    • @shreddedbagelwabiwabo8342
      @shreddedbagelwabiwabo8342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      ​@@bluebearydtinobody gives a f

  • @DOLFClan
    @DOLFClan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is actually so sad… I am so sorry you had to feel this because no one should. Sour people do f**Ked up stuff for the money, even if it is backstabbing their own best friend
    We love you packgod ❤ you make me laugh on even the worst days

  • @hellskiddo319
    @hellskiddo319 ปีที่แล้ว +4859

    I have no idea who you are or who your friend is, I was randomly recommended this video (which also just goes to show how wide of a reach you have right now, even after all this) but god I'm invested. I've dealt with betrayals all my life, obviously not to this extent, but they're horrible and the fact that you're able to push through and stand up again after all that is really incredible. I wish you the best, dude, hope it all goes well for you.

    • @Matsupitsu396
      @Matsupitsu396 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/_nRbZ7sgrE0/w-d-xo.html
      Leg response

    • @Unknownmillie137
      @Unknownmillie137 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Same and same
      It’s really disgusting how these people always tries to take advantage of others and then throw you away like nothing… and if you’re hurt that’s not of their business, cuz they already used you for what they needed and don’t need you anymore.

    • @lucasgaston1165
      @lucasgaston1165 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jeremias 17:5

    • @Digimonfusion280
      @Digimonfusion280 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      while listening to this video i could not stop thinking about how similar my situation was. Mine case wasn't on a scale like his, but man how come we let this happen to ourselves? are we all just naive, to give so much trust to people you call friends? i really hope karma gets all those mfs

    • @scottybaws
      @scottybaws ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Literally same, idk why I watched the whole thing and I'd never even heard of packing til now but I do know i'm subscribing to show my support

  • @aserro_II
    @aserro_II 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5087

    this man got everything taken away from him, and builded his own channel from the ground after that. Absolute legend.

    • @aserro_II
      @aserro_II 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @BP ok

    • @fazarfazar58
      @fazarfazar58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@aserro_II both work in the sentence builded or built both still work

    • @fazarfazar58
      @fazarfazar58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Fenn true its more of a irregular verb

    • @sohodollie7643
      @sohodollie7643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Fenn If everyone involved understands what was conveyed, then it's a word. It might not be a common one, but that's just how language works

    • @spicylikeasnake
      @spicylikeasnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is bad as it is I don’t feel sympathy for trusting a guy you don’t even know irl all of your stuff.

  • @wolfgangmozart1920
    @wolfgangmozart1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3205

    Watching both POVs and their arguments, Leg has basically come up with claims, while Packgod has responded to each claim with actual evidence and smart arguments. So, Leg has been a serpent for who knows what reason, and tried to make Packgod seem like he was the one in the wrong.
    Edit: oh yeah, Leg tried scamming someone(I think it was someone doing edits) and Packgod stopped it. So, add that on to the things that leg has done, as well as one of legs LEGITIMATE reasons he switched up on pack.
    Edit 2: appreciate the likes, hopefully comments like this will help ppl understand what is going on between the two

    • @mk_makkaro
      @mk_makkaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      what happened? why did leg do this? im team packgod

    • @wolfgangmozart1920
      @wolfgangmozart1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      @@mk_makkaro yeah, essentially Leg all of a sudden switched up and cut all ties to Packgod. He removed him from the Packgod and Leg channel, all of their other channels, Leg's discord, and then was spewing nonsense about how Packgod wasnt liked by him and his friends, and that he was toxic, etc. Packgod however, has refuted this with legit arguments and evidence, and therefore Leg is a fucking snake

    • @mk_makkaro
      @mk_makkaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@wolfgangmozart1920 fr. thanks for explaining

    • @FireballFlareblitz734
      @FireballFlareblitz734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wolfgangmozart1920 so all of this shit is as far as we know, completely unprompted

    • @wolfgangmozart1920
      @wolfgangmozart1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FireballFlareblitz734 essentially yeah. Leg has put no legitimate evidence other than claims and things out of context, pack has backed his shit up.

  • @Leon_2011-l5x
    @Leon_2011-l5x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    A friend that backstabs you is just the saddest thing that can happen. 😢

  • @redisGabe
    @redisGabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4589

    It's crazy how anyone can respect Leg after this. I respect how you're being the bigger man in all this. I too hope justice will be served 🙏

    • @synth124
      @synth124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      bro what he tried to cheat in a 3k talent show spammed shit. then he said he never says the n word while he is packing but he says it like 4 times in a few mins please go watch legs response literally clips of him saying the n word and leg created void with a friend group

    • @redisGabe
      @redisGabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

      @@synth124 I did. It still doesn’t justify what Leg did, and seems pretty irrelevant to the situation as a whole,

    • @snoopy3482
      @snoopy3482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      @@synth124 still doesnt justify what he did lol

    • @notlihchino
      @notlihchino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@redisGabe it doesnt justify what leg did but isnt irrelevant to the situation at all

    • @wilhelmhause3510
      @wilhelmhause3510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@synth124 "he said the n word" litterly no one cares dude. It's entirely irrelevant to the situation.
      Before you say some goofy shit about the word being sacred or offensive, that doesn't matter. Whites, latinos, blacks, we all say nigga because we aren't pretending where we're from. Shit's used as a comma out here, by everyone and no one cares. The only people that give a shit are jits like you. People who live on the internet or in the burbs.

  • @nosmith0741
    @nosmith0741 ปีที่แล้ว +2512

    Bros name is literally leg but he somehow f’d himself so hard that he doesn’t even have one to stand on anymore

  • @ssscout
    @ssscout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2925

    this feels like some real life sam & carly shit

  • @Lz_TheDude_08
    @Lz_TheDude_08 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    bro, without a doubt, did the best comeback of all time, he got backstabbed, left with absolutely nothing, and had been accused of bad things in an attempt of getting his reputation ruined, yet he didnt care, got his shit together, dealt with it like an actual man (unlike others), and now is pretty much 10 times bigger than what he was with leg, massive respect

  • @pl1y_
    @pl1y_ ปีที่แล้ว +918

    Until you get it back... rooting for you bro and i feel u..
    edit lol: this was 10 months ago and I thought it was recent. you deserve it anyway. no regrets

    • @ChadExtinguisher
      @ChadExtinguisher ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Good shit bro! I wish i could help him the same way, i literally just watched it too

    • @GeoWap
      @GeoWap ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Real nka

    • @uwabamiJohnny
      @uwabamiJohnny ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Damn, respect bro.

    • @rickysimmons4220
      @rickysimmons4220 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      broooo

    • @kevinjohnson7300
      @kevinjohnson7300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got 5 on it

  • @KaiEditzZ1954
    @KaiEditzZ1954 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1765

    man, that actually hurts, i know i’m a year late and all, but i’m so sorry this had happened

    • @CrixelShorts_
      @CrixelShorts_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      me 2

    • @斑点99
      @斑点99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Fr i just now heard about this!

    • @adajosephine29
      @adajosephine29 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      lol same

    • @Zamdasherplayz3
      @Zamdasherplayz3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      22:09

    • @iamericartman
      @iamericartman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      idk why i got feeded this now

  • @AiBamaBarack
    @AiBamaBarack 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3425

    1 year later.
    Leg is most definitely broke as hell now, this plan didn't work too well for him.
    And if he's not broke then he's most likely on the road to being broke, I know them channels is mad dry now.
    Loads of Money tends to break people mentality causing them to become delusional and extremely greedy.
    2 or 3 years later or maybe even now, he's probably gonna regret his decision or he's regretting it as you may be reading this rn.

    • @rlkhan10
      @rlkhan10 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      L leg

    • @totallyreyalfactsfsfs
      @totallyreyalfactsfsfs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      What's leg's channel names? I want to see every single hate comment.

    • @AstronomyFacts2763
      @AstronomyFacts2763 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      ​@@totallyreyalfactsfsfs Leg...

    • @legowinnertoy
      @legowinnertoy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      There’s a reason he has an L in his name.

    • @Kplai-t2x
      @Kplai-t2x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@totallyreyalfactsfsfs is called void

  • @ect3208
    @ect3208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Even tho that was two years ago, I still am in shock. I had friends like Leg who betrayed and backstabbed me. Not as bad as Leg backstabbed Pack, but still bad. Getting all credit for LITERALLY doing NOTHING is unbelievable. I pray, that this happens to nobody again. I believe in you Pack. (I love the videos! Keep doing them! You make our day every single time better, because of how you destroy these naive people. Thank you!
    EDIT: Somehow it was clear, that he was going to leave the VC. He ain’t a real man like Packgod!

    • @goosemustdie-9
      @goosemustdie-9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just subbed!

    • @JansenMerritt
      @JansenMerritt หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but you know leg was good at packing its sad he was a bad person like that.

    • @goosemustdie-9
      @goosemustdie-9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JansenMerritt no

    • @JansenMerritt
      @JansenMerritt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goosemustdie-9 yeah he was? I mean what he did was bad but it doesn't make him bad at packing.

  • @LC5234
    @LC5234 ปีที่แล้ว +25280

    *The worst thing about betrayal is it never comes from an enemy*
    Yes the 200+ replies telling me you cant be betrayed by an enemy wasn't enough guys💀

    • @fredrikaKH
      @fredrikaKH ปีที่แล้ว +595

      But it is how you gain an enemy

    • @m4tsu752
      @m4tsu752 ปีที่แล้ว +909

      That's how betrayal works.

    • @2nerC9
      @2nerC9 ปีที่แล้ว +397

      The most I'm 15 and this is deep comment I have seen goes to this guy.

    • @FatWalterWhite69
      @FatWalterWhite69 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@2nerC9lmao

    • @thefriendsanimations33
      @thefriendsanimations33 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The good thing is packgod more sub than him

  • @Sofbeofb
    @Sofbeofb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +831

    The best part is that before watching this video, I had no clue who leg was, but have known packgod the whole time

    • @kira._.47
      @kira._.47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Real

    • @ANewYoutubeChannel-xi6hf
      @ANewYoutubeChannel-xi6hf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Real

    • @xerlon8111
      @xerlon8111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Well I don't know any of them and gonna fuk off. But honestly he gave him all the main access to everything ? Why not sign a waver for him to pull his plug too...

    • @TheSoul3900
      @TheSoul3900 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So true

    • @OG-AMIR
      @OG-AMIR 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@xerlon8111 pretty sure he did. Check his diss on leg

  • @kodoma4917
    @kodoma4917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1738

    Hearing Pack is such a serious tone means he's fucking serious, no messing around, and all valid points. I'm sorry this happened to you.

    • @ExSpheriment
      @ExSpheriment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I feel bad but I expected people to be roasting him 💀

    • @kodoma4917
      @kodoma4917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExSpheriment 💀

    • @MikeChxpo
      @MikeChxpo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ExSpheriment yea no people actually understand where he’s coming no weirdos gonna roast him for this

    • @ProgramAndNectar
      @ProgramAndNectar ปีที่แล้ว

      Im surprised he didnt pack leg

    • @devenbond8828
      @devenbond8828 ปีที่แล้ว

      hes black

  • @JollyMecha
    @JollyMecha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The irony of leg's name. After he betrayed packgod, Packgod made that and leg's career was "kicked" into outspace, bro no one knows him anymore. Great job Packgod

    • @JansenMerritt
      @JansenMerritt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its sad that leg had to be like that too. He was genuinely good at packing and I can just imagine where him and pack would be today if he wasn't a traitor.

  • @shopnil4
    @shopnil4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5425

    I don't know who you are, but looking at your situation, if he is legitimately stealing money from you, this is lawsuit worthy in my opinion.

    • @saltwarden8218
      @saltwarden8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +352

      im a lil late to the party but i hope he sues the shit out of leg

    • @pkyn2353
      @pkyn2353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@saltwarden8218same, this whole situation is fucked up

    • @YAHO1
      @YAHO1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prodics if he wasnt in the wrong you "npc" why would he leave the vc once he realised it was packgod and packgod wasnt even aggressive he was talking to him normally and he just fled like the bitch he is

    • @Selardhan
      @Selardhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gutsrust ?????

    • @oofman4137
      @oofman4137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saltwarden8218same

  • @grim_reaper20002
    @grim_reaper20002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3056

    I cant believe this was a year ago, now he has 4 million. I'm so proud of my boy.

    • @NATHANSREBELLION-zx4mn
      @NATHANSREBELLION-zx4mn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      My guy. 2022 was two years ago.

    • @98_Lj
      @98_Lj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It’s not august though

    • @Hellobigboi
      @Hellobigboi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@NATHANSREBELLION-zx4mn it says 1 year ago…

    • @Adam-je2kp
      @Adam-je2kp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      fr

    • @LordOfTheChills
      @LordOfTheChills 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Hellobigboi dude you can check it from by clicking the name of video

  • @aurynforartax6037
    @aurynforartax6037 ปีที่แล้ว +1819

    You have my support Pack. That Leg guy seems like a user,liar,and thief. People like that usually end up in jail. I hope justice prevails.

    • @musicgraze
      @musicgraze 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I got scammed 50 dollars off of discord. And there's nothing I can do about it.
      sometimes we learn a lot from our mistakes.

    • @stezywtw
      @stezywtw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@musicgrazewe got the same pfp lol

    • @huntmart2110
      @huntmart2110 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@musicgrazewell, if my partner in music or videomaking locks me out of my accounts, it’s like someone squatting in your house, you can go after them for displacing your property (and if that house were your business) then any lost income. Just cause he finessed doesn’t mean he gets away with it.

    • @Kurry34
      @Kurry34 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@huntmart2110 he just learned the hard way. It's like when artists sign to labels and the label takes everything bc they didn't read the contract. Theres no master's or copyright for the content and no contracts for the channel saying he's part owner, so he can't sue, him saying it's his channel means nothing and Videos of him working on the music as proof or whatever means nothing without paper work

    • @heartpaid6767
      @heartpaid6767 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kurry34 you have no idea how law works, dont speak

  • @BaseArchieEspio
    @BaseArchieEspio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I always keep coming back to the video because this is interesting because this isnt usually packgod you know its serious when the troll is even mad and dissapointed

  • @mommy-mar
    @mommy-mar ปีที่แล้ว +2072

    Leg deleting all of his discord messages was all the evidence I needed.

    • @5cG001
      @5cG001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      fr

    • @Teics2
      @Teics2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      fax

    • @akooma3694
      @akooma3694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Packgod dating a 17 year old girl while being 21 is all the evidence I needed. Dude is a literal nonce lmao

    • @CristianoRonaldo70192
      @CristianoRonaldo70192 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Frrr

    • @SmileyYoutube2
      @SmileyYoutube2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      fr

  • @whoiskickstand
    @whoiskickstand ปีที่แล้ว +6514

    Never heard of either of you guys, this video just popped up in recommended, but mad props to you for handling this like a man and I hope that asshole gets what's coming. I don't know if you can pursue anything legally, but I know I'd be talking to lawyers if I were in your shoes

  • @Calebannator
    @Calebannator ปีที่แล้ว +2607

    I'm proud of you PackGod for how you came back from this betrayal from someone you trusted and I'm proud of you for everything you have done to build up your career after it all was taken away you deserve to have someone be proud of you for everything you have done bro I am genuinely proud of you I just wanted to say that to you

    • @uzukhanyejentile2599
      @uzukhanyejentile2599 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The person that got banned from every platform is packgod?

    • @mr.nugg0t888
      @mr.nugg0t888 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@uzukhanyejentile2599 Yes Packgod is the one that got betrayed and the one in the video Leg is the friend that stole everything from him and claimed packgod to be in the wrong Hope this helps

    • @zaiii9668
      @zaiii9668 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The character development packgod got from this (im not saying he deserved it at all) and become the biggest W

    • @Gamer-tt6iv
      @Gamer-tt6iv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ur joking. You said ur phone was taken away. And I see you commenting this? Nah it’s over with us….💔💔💔💔

    • @MILLbnan
      @MILLbnan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gamer-tt6iv what heppend?

  • @D2SPA5VR
    @D2SPA5VR 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bro that’s crazy I feel super freaking bad for you

  • @plumpporcupine34
    @plumpporcupine34 ปีที่แล้ว +2925

    This showed up in my recommended. Subbing simply to support you man. Being betrayed by your best friend is terrible and I hope Legs cowardly greed follows him around.

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here!

    • @weiSane
      @weiSane ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same bruh

    • @fuadlabib703
      @fuadlabib703 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the reminder now I'm subbed

    • @GiantTalkingTree
      @GiantTalkingTree ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @HarambaeXelonmuskfans And you're butt hurt because?

    • @gwell66v2AnimeReviews
      @gwell66v2AnimeReviews ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I started my channel for the same reason. Did all the workl for the first 5 months of a shared channels existence, Friend did the next 4 months. Then right when I was about to upload my newest vid to our shared channel he changed the pw and told me it was his now.
      I regularly double his viewcount on my new channel despite him paying and networking with a maaaaajor YTer, so f him

  • @Tyler-ke1ue
    @Tyler-ke1ue ปีที่แล้ว +1765

    What a bomb shell. This was recommended to me by youtube and wow what a good watch this was. I honestly don't know any of these channels or anything. But this seems like this video belongs in a court hearing and you get everything you deserve. What a wild ride you just took me on. I hope you keep doing what youre doing man

    • @havalanche
      @havalanche ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same!

    • @igorz3551
      @igorz3551 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah sue his lil ass

    • @ThatHorribleMusiciandork7
      @ThatHorribleMusiciandork7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came from the same thing. Man this hurt, I have had people like this in my life.

    • @mournW
      @mournW ปีที่แล้ว

      he a liar, he was dating a 13 year old and leg didn't wanna expose him for being a pedo, so this nigga ghosted him, and he made this.
      packgod made all his clout stealing my jokes, he ain't in no position to call nobody a liar.
      - first legend, spark of void, mournhill.

    • @mournW
      @mournW ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bigger bombshell is he's calling Leg a thief, while he made all of his videos using my jokes, look up "packgod stolen jokes"

  • @epicgamer8308
    @epicgamer8308 ปีที่แล้ว +1573

    I'm so glad that PACKGOD is doing well right now after he's dealt with this bullshit. PACKGOD was actually confident enough to address everything and explain what really happened unlike Leg. We love ya, man.

    • @Ecloned658
      @Ecloned658 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Can you explain what happened from then cause I never watched packgod

    • @DangDaVillage
      @DangDaVillage 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Ecloned658maybe you should’ve watched the video

    • @brandonwhite4967
      @brandonwhite4967 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Ecloned658 You watched him

    • @VdmGamer
      @VdmGamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ecloned658Did anyone tell you about this how did you find this video if you never watch packgod

    • @prinzexisalowqualityytber
      @prinzexisalowqualityytber 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@VdmGamer the aglorithm works in mysterious ways

  • @lucianavega426
    @lucianavega426 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    dude.......im sorry you had to face that...all my respect to you

  • @SongEnhancerChad
    @SongEnhancerChad ปีที่แล้ว +1141

    Never trust someone called Leg. Of course he's gonna kick you out and run away on his own.

    • @G3nkki.Doll_
      @G3nkki.Doll_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Okay this actually got me 😂😂😂😂

    • @fw.phxtom
      @fw.phxtom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      This had me laughing so hard 💀

    • @mcking9665_2
      @mcking9665_2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💀

    • @NexusUnitedYT
      @NexusUnitedYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂

    • @vexslade
      @vexslade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@goonstikI'm SNORTING LAUGHING 💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheArkInfinity
    @TheArkInfinity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6161

    Are you already pursuing legal action? Let me be clear, you need to talk to a lawyer if you haven't already. Spotify and TH-cam will both respond to legal actions - including, but not limited to, the correct reinstatement of account. Leg's actions are criminal and he can be charged in a court of law. I highly recommend you also file a civil suit against him, as well - that should happen regardless.
    Please let me know if you need help finding a lawyer to assist you with this.

    • @neverknewitbefore
      @neverknewitbefore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +615

      W legal facts

    • @someguy777
      @someguy777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +308

      This!!! 100% Pursue legal action

    • @Ginryuken
      @Ginryuken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Goat

    • @reygrandepapi9158
      @reygrandepapi9158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      W facts

    • @duckyduckington9736
      @duckyduckington9736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      they don't want to because it could takes months of tiring legal trouble. Court is a bitch to do and could take forever to actually do.

  • @zerothynical
    @zerothynical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2163

    I like how Leg, being lazy, just stole all of pack-gods work, made out like he was a disgusting person, and saying he basically did everything, that's horrfic.
    Packgod did NOT deserve this.

    • @a7super_07
      @a7super_07 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Then you say you "like how he stole "

    • @-TheChosen0ne-
      @-TheChosen0ne- ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@a7super_07 it was sarcastic bro

    • @CrawCray
      @CrawCray ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Leg: haha I’m gonna steal money and think nothing is gonna happen
      Packgod: exposes leg
      Leg: waaaaaaaa

    • @cursorguy
      @cursorguy ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@a7super_07damn bro is English not your first language?

    • @person12321
      @person12321 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@CrawCray **steals everything from frend and doesnt give justification why**
      **gets exposed by frend**
      leg: 😮

  • @CatSandwich1
    @CatSandwich1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    fells good your almost at 5 mil, karma exists.

  • @val_kyo
    @val_kyo ปีที่แล้ว +848

    Hey packgod, you handled this so well and i wish you the best with the channels, your career and with the content you’re making. W packgod 🔥

    • @FallingRakes
      @FallingRakes ปีที่แล้ว +25

      MR BEAST 💀💀💀

    • @val_kyo
      @val_kyo ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@FallingRakes it was my bday money and i wanted to help 😭

    • @D4rkkay
      @D4rkkay ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤑💰💸💵

    • @Kindal0ner
      @Kindal0ner ปีที่แล้ว +10

      MR. BEAST!!
      still a good thing that you donated

    • @ahmed4363
      @ahmed4363 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wait what's that blue heart thing?

  • @goldie5169
    @goldie5169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    How’s Leg gonna say Packgod’s a narcissist and then steal everything from him and keep it for himself. That’s the most ironic, selfish, egotistical, self-centered bull I’ve ever heard.

    • @keatongillespie7130
      @keatongillespie7130 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yeah hes projecting himself onto him bad

    • @rockyp32
      @rockyp32 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s what narcissists n wicked people do believe in Jesus Christ and you’ll be saved.

    • @TheMediaMachine
      @TheMediaMachine ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because Leg is a Narcissist. That's what Narcissist do.

    • @larion2336
      @larion2336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gaslighting is a classic move of all narcissists. They project their own faults and accuse the other person of having them, it's a defense mechanism because if you accuse someone of being X after they said you were X, it just looks like you're being immature and saying "no u" when in reality it may actually be a valid accusation.
      The main takeaway here is that anyone who censors and bans another person to this level is a coward who doesn't want any discussion or transparent perusal of actual events to happen; this can only be because they are in the wrong and wanting to hide it.

    • @ElSkeppo
      @ElSkeppo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rockyp32 bruh this can't be serious right? The amount of religious people that are narcissistic nutjobs is a reason in itself not to follow in faith

  • @sk8hillzz
    @sk8hillzz ปีที่แล้ว +188

    no idea why YT recommended me this vid today but I watched it. Have no clue who either is but glad to see Packgod is doing amazing and this Leg person has dropped of the earth and failed

    • @hussain0008
      @hussain0008 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol me to

    • @Cynthiabecker24
      @Cynthiabecker24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol..and me today.
      Good story though. I'm def on Gods side.😂

    • @Kookie4uu
      @Kookie4uu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

    • @Swagroutes
      @Swagroutes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @ALLEN-x5x
    @ALLEN-x5x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I still remember before pack god was really popular I was watching this every day wondering what was gonna happen next

  • @Eurovisionmadness
    @Eurovisionmadness 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +364

    i've never thought i'd see packgod sad. That makes me sad

    • @ibra8096
      @ibra8096 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You’re a year late

    • @coolawesomemax
      @coolawesomemax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Your late 😂

    • @Eurovisionmadness
      @Eurovisionmadness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@coolawesomemax I don’t really care lol

    • @Snesthekeleton
      @Snesthekeleton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@coolawesomemaxyou’re

    • @Vergil-Cat
      @Vergil-Cat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      me too

  • @Anti-HyperLink
    @Anti-HyperLink ปีที่แล้ว +6250

    Leg: "PackGod is selfish."
    Also Leg: *changes passwords on shared accounts, deletes DMs, throws "good friend" under the bus without saying anything to him."
    Leg is projecting.

    • @nekosaiyajin8529
      @nekosaiyajin8529 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is a sociopath and a narcisist and should be in jail

    • @dieSpinnt
      @dieSpinnt ปีที่แล้ว

      First: who is that dipshit? Second: I don't care. Good bye!
      Yeah, really believable. Telling a story on TH-cam which every normal person would take to court as a law case for the prosecutor is very believable. And risking that you torpedo your own case and loose it because you made claims in the public and entangled yourself in contradictions (the opposing lawyers will find some, they always do!). This is the worst approach on drama and reality-tv-BS I ever seen.
      Identity theft, theft, misappropriation of company funds. Insult, slander, public threats of violence. That other idiot wouldn't be on the loose for 10 minutes but imprisoned if there was anything true to this story.

    • @truthhurts2879
      @truthhurts2879 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Projection is a subtle form of confession right?...

    • @erbyzyrealcuh
      @erbyzyrealcuh ปีที่แล้ว +13

      didnt packgod scam jidion and lie about a bunch of stuff i mean i wouldnt want to be a friend with that dude anymore and i wouldnt want him to have anything online

    • @tarutaru1070
      @tarutaru1070 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Gaslight, Gatekeep and girlboss
      That's what leg lives by

  • @jgwmain
    @jgwmain ปีที่แล้ว +1613

    Damn bro. I’m sorry that happened. If there’s anything I learned from shit like this, “everything happens for a reason.” The fact you have over 1 million subscribers now and worked really hard is proof that this is definitely a “karmic coincidence.”

    • @bluegiant13
      @bluegiant13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cope

    • @bluestarlight13
      @bluestarlight13 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nah stop coping. No coincidence nor karma gimmicks, he simply worked his ass off and got the results

    • @borginburkes1819
      @borginburkes1819 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@bluestarlight13he worked his ass off and then got the fruit of his work stolen. These 1 million subs came from this ONE video. If he hasn’t made this video he wouldn’t have gotten this many subs. Buddy

    • @bluestarlight13
      @bluestarlight13 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@borginburkes1819 No, these 1 million subs still came from him working his ass off. This video wouldn't exist without his previous efforts, which were later stolen. Stop with this narrative that everything in life is predetermined and karma-bound, it's an insult to those who struggle and try their hardest to reach a satisfying future

    • @borginburkes1819
      @borginburkes1819 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@bluestarlight13 you literally just agreed with me and you don’t even know it. His work gets stolen, he makes a reaction video, he gets 1 million subs. There’s a really huge chance that this video wouldn’t have gotten recommended to millions of people. There’s probably thousands of videos just like this one, that never even get more than 10 views. Just accept that it was luck and karma that got him these subs. I could make a video that’s exactly like this one and I bet it wouldn’t even get one single view.

  • @RedHeadFN
    @RedHeadFN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    His friend betrayed him, he then got more power his friend could even get

  • @Adhillea
    @Adhillea ปีที่แล้ว +596

    Leg is just a disappointment... He just left you for money... ACTUAL money. Leaving your Best Friend and ruining ALL the work he has done is truly unbelievable. I will support you from the start to the end, Packgod. God bless.

    • @zStarlight04
      @zStarlight04 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      fax

    • @Sagu_Un1_
      @Sagu_Un1_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Packgod W

    • @SixOk
      @SixOk ปีที่แล้ว

      For real, he betrayed his best friend for an easy cash grab but lost it all in the long run .

  • @Nevar_studios
    @Nevar_studios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1076

    Bro got even more popular without Leg

    • @Neoniqq_1
      @Neoniqq_1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      fr

    • @Don4ever〆
      @Don4ever〆 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fr

    • @Моѕѕ
      @Моѕѕ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      That’s what happens when you’re focused on numbers over relationships. You think you’re all this and that, but it’s just short term growth. Nothing matters in the long run when you do stupid shit like this (speaking towards Leg)

    • @urban_99
      @urban_99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Моѕѕexactly, now pack makes so much more money and gets way more views than he used to. he deserves it after going through it, respect to packgod

    • @Моѕѕ
      @Моѕѕ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@urban_99 Leg sold void to cope. Must’ve been worth that one time payment to feed his ego from the past.

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 ปีที่แล้ว +1305

    Dude this is infuriating. I’m glad to see you followed the advice you gave your editor and exposed him. Now you both finally got what you deserved, I’m glad to hear this turned out well for you dude!

    • @mournW
      @mournW ปีที่แล้ว

      he a liar, he was dating a 13 year old and leg didn't wanna expose him for being a pedo, so this nigga ghosted him, and he made this.
      packgod made all his clout stealing my jokes, he ain't in no position to call nobody a liar.

  • @gabrielmiocevic4659
    @gabrielmiocevic4659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Packgod i feel you man, i had the same thing😔😔😔

  • @veroxx32
    @veroxx32 ปีที่แล้ว +693

    This situation is disgusting and those who run TH-cam and other platforms where Leg stole the work should not let this slide and let that man get away with this, good luck PackGod and I’m so happy you are growing again, well deserved

    • @veroxx32
      @veroxx32 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@KAKUMEi34 I watched Leg’s entire video, I like seeing both perspective and I can tell 1. There is no good excuse to what Leg did, 2. Yes KSI did him dirty which isn’t correct but Leg asked for it, 3. So lame that you have to defend yourself through a fake account, it’s obvious that you are not right in this and try to tell people to watch your video, even if packgod is all the things you say, what you did was really dirty, get over it and grow up

    • @KAKUMEi34
      @KAKUMEi34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@veroxx32 me personally, I dont wanna discuss this with anyone, because i would sound childish, just believe what u want i already did what i thought was correct and had to be done.

    • @siliswest498
      @siliswest498 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KAKUMEi34 I don’t feel like giving a shit about what someone with Japanese letters in their name has to say

    • @ObiTheHomie
      @ObiTheHomie ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@デッキスープ[DEKSOP] Wait who are you? Why is he saying that you did something dirty?

    • @Vienic2
      @Vienic2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KAKUMEi34 yo i just realized why packgod is always pissed off, he channels the rage from this into what he says

  • @RapidFish
    @RapidFish ปีที่แล้ว +1263

    Leg: Packgod is very narcissistic, manipulative and selfish.
    Also Leg: **steals all of the money that Packgod made for him and removes him off of the channel**

    • @illhallillhall9660
      @illhallillhall9660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Narcissistic: Leg has taken everything they have done together for himself.
      Manipulative: building a frienddhip for 3 years and betraying.
      Selfish: taking everything for himself only, then whipping shit outta his ass to make packgod in the wrong.
      *Disgusting.*

    • @saku_438
      @saku_438 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Honestly sounds like pure projection from the mf

    • @DoctorSolocus
      @DoctorSolocus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bro the moaning sounds and “he’s lying out of his ass” made me laugh, I shouldn’t be laughing at this😭

    • @alexmadness19
      @alexmadness19 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DoctorSolocuslmao this is so off topic with the actual comment but that did make me laugh too bruh

  • @bananaman_vr_gt
    @bananaman_vr_gt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1047

    This mf took away all his fame and he grew 10x fucking bigger. so much respect for packgod rn

    • @covcanada
      @covcanada 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      LEG is the reason that PACKGOD is now 4 million TH-cam subscriptions instead of 200,000?
      When your channel is stolen just get the algorithm to help you and then get 20x more subscribers than before

    • @TheDarkStar_Brawl
      @TheDarkStar_Brawl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@covcanaday

    • @mitzi_mochi_ochi
      @mitzi_mochi_ochi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@covcanada What.

    • @NeverNormal_GD
      @NeverNormal_GD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      ​@@covcanada
      Correction:
      Leg = 🤡
      Packgod =🗿

    • @Mookadoesvr
      @Mookadoesvr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NeverNormal_GDfr

  • @Im_happy-c4f
    @Im_happy-c4f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    this is why you never give all your power to someone else

  • @Jzwagg
    @Jzwagg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3750

    No matter the reason, y’all were amazing to me and and loads of others. Best of luck to both of you.

  • @magixtorr
    @magixtorr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +729

    The worse part is that you can see the pain in packgods eyes, it really breaks my heart.

    • @neon6446
      @neon6446 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      its true he looks so heartbroken

    • @not_d4rky578
      @not_d4rky578 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@neon6446 looked like he was on the verge of tears sometimes

    • @neon6446
      @neon6446 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@not_d4rky578 yeah I know right

    • @Hjalteetwtefugkcl
      @Hjalteetwtefugkcl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@not_d4rky578 I mean if my best freind betrayed me and took everything we made together

    • @Ace_keepkin8
      @Ace_keepkin8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Sh1ryyu 😐

  • @Takeromg
    @Takeromg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3589

    This is so sad to see...
    Two friends having fun together and growing a community.
    Then one of them back stabs the other💔💔💔
    Truly the saddest thing ever

    • @absolutechad9482
      @absolutechad9482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah bro it's sad

    • @dop2316
      @dop2316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was going to comment the same thing💔💔💔

    • @enthusiast6891
      @enthusiast6891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pack god back stabbed him we got proof

    • @hendrickslamar4563
      @hendrickslamar4563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      U guys are so gullible

    • @mater1805
      @mater1805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      bro watch the leg vid explanation about whta packgod said, packgod lied about most of the things he said in this video.and packgod has even said severall times the n-word when he was packing people, and u might think that thats allowed but nah it aint.he even lied to Jidion in the talent show, he lied about him beeing poor and being hella greedy about the money from the talent show

  • @vloom_v129
    @vloom_v129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I respect you packgod youre a really nice guy and ur basiclly the best future youtuber

  • @connerfondo2020
    @connerfondo2020 ปีที่แล้ว +1456

    Now Packgod has more subs than all of those channels combined
    Edit: Don’t worry. I’m not gonna be cringe and thank you guys for likes. You’re welcome 👍

    • @val_kyo
      @val_kyo ปีที่แล้ว +45

      W

    • @resurrectsean2438
      @resurrectsean2438 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🎉😊

    • @stevenrodriguez763
      @stevenrodriguez763 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yea but their probably still taking his money via other accounts

    • @tylerdurden6532
      @tylerdurden6532 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@stevenrodriguez763 so now we all must gather to protest against people viewing content on those channels until rightful payments have been made. Probably an unlikely scenario, however anything is possible

    • @Azure_sky
      @Azure_sky ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tylerdurden6532 or just have him file dmca claims on each video he worked on

  • @blxzing1201
    @blxzing1201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +836

    Its obvious you were doing all the hardwork and heavy lifting between you two. Use your hardwork and talent to get bigger and better than all the channels that are now "his" and make him regret it. Keep your head up, and keep working on the content. You don't need Leg to make amazing content, but he needs you. Stay strong,

    • @Destnylol
      @Destnylol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      W blxzing

    • @plaquesd
      @plaquesd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ur so corny stop meateating this white guy who says the n word and lies each and every time

  • @malusofficial
    @malusofficial ปีที่แล้ว +720

    This randomly popped into my recommended, this sounds like an artist’s worst nightmare. You deserved none of what this Leg character did. You were generous and he chose to use you and your work for his own gain instead of collaborating. I know that whatever further effort you put into this situation - whether legally or just going to TH-cam directly, that you will get your Justice in the end. You deserve it man, keep up the good work ❤

    • @mournW
      @mournW ปีที่แล้ว

      he a liar, he was dating a 13 year old and leg didn't wanna expose him for being a pedo, so this nigga ghosted him, and he made this.
      packgod made all his clout stealing my jokes, he ain't in no position to call nobody a liar.

  • @Murglan1TV
    @Murglan1TV 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm so terribly sorry to hear what just happened to you packgod. But i'm more than happy to see how much your chnanel has grown so far thanks to your hard work
    and your hard work alone. You got over 5 million subs, you're doing great man just keep up the great work you do.

  • @zan6585
    @zan6585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1012

    Your live reaction is actually stellar evidence, you're so clearly genuinely blown away by him lying that I can't help but instantly believe your side more than his.

  • @PekoClipsVTuber
    @PekoClipsVTuber 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +748

    Truly one of the most legendary comebacks of all time. Despite being on the lowest of lows, he kept going, and look where he is now.

    • @ReallyShortOpinions
      @ReallyShortOpinions 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He just hit 4 million subscribers baby!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @vedanttheman5114
      @vedanttheman5114 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey I am new subscriber can you tell a short story of what happened with him?

    • @ReallyShortOpinions
      @ReallyShortOpinions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vedanttheman5114 Packgod and Leg used to co-own two channels together. One being called Void and the other being called Packgod and Leg (now called Leg), until one day when Packgod was asleep Leg took both channels away as well as their socials (including the Spotify).

    • @legitbot2432
      @legitbot2432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vedanttheman5114 watch the video

    • @Omgihavenotingbettertodoinlife
      @Omgihavenotingbettertodoinlife 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro what?!

  • @M9RP
    @M9RP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    I never heard of you but I'm sorry that this happened. The feeling of losing everything hurts. Wish you luck without this ahole.

  • @Loltrina
    @Loltrina 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is the reason why I don’t trust too much of my friends even my best friends because they might will backstab :(

  • @eddym.484
    @eddym.484 ปีที่แล้ว +495

    I'm watching this 10 months from when all of it happened and now this man has gone from couple of hundred thousand to millions of views and subs. As I see it, it was blessing and good leg did what he did then, instead of now when you're sky rocketing to the top. Keep it up packgod, we stand with you homie!

    • @GRUNTS2013
      @GRUNTS2013 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it feels even better that it worked against him and worked in PACKGOD's favor in the long run

  • @Idofunniesforiamtheclown
    @Idofunniesforiamtheclown ปีที่แล้ว +574

    went through something like this but A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT LESS EXTREME, and knowing how that felt I can't even IMAGINE what this guy is going through, respect to you man..

  • @ReesesPeanutDogger
    @ReesesPeanutDogger ปีที่แล้ว +327

    you can see the pain in his face, the way he hides the emotion, this guy doesn’t deserve this.

  • @disspackgod
    @disspackgod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm sorry packgod for that I hope you get a new friend ❤

  • @ayeayeron2027
    @ayeayeron2027 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    Sorry that this happened to you. You deserve so much better.

    • @f7or1n
      @f7or1n ปีที่แล้ว +8

      he did got much better lol

    • @lucasgaston1165
      @lucasgaston1165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jeremias 17:5

    • @JackieLombardi
      @JackieLombardi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucasgaston1165 Exactly

    • @stefanotoms2727
      @stefanotoms2727 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lucasgaston1165 shut up

    • @Sh1ryyu
      @Sh1ryyu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      actually its a skill issue

  • @drivenbyrage5710
    @drivenbyrage5710 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    The best revenge is living well. From the four million plus subs you have here, looks like you're doing just fine without him. Good for you.

    • @wrestling_lady
      @wrestling_lady 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We supported Packgod so well, didn't we? 💜🥹

  • @ItsSlyx
    @ItsSlyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2024

    It's fantastic that he came back from all that, now he's at 700k+ Subscriber's!
    100 percent deserved!❤️

    • @calob3927
      @calob3927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The one thing he can’t take from him is his talent. He will always end up bigger simply because he has more talent and works harder.

    • @LiefVerColl
      @LiefVerColl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      mf in 6 days grow up 170k

    • @glitchyyy2393
      @glitchyyy2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      i just randomly got this vid on my recommended rn. and i see he's at 876k

    • @_Rambo.
      @_Rambo. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@glitchyyy2393 yeah thats crazy he just popped up on my recommendation this drama was interesting but im glad the kid got all the subscribers back and wayy more!

    • @addybarclay4275
      @addybarclay4275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It proves that packgod didn't waste 3 years of the grind

  • @BfIsASimpAnimations
    @BfIsASimpAnimations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    And here it's how is born, the legendary Ultra Roaster Packgod!! Respect❤

  • @UxoriouI
    @UxoriouI 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    The guy was probably jealous, and wanted to gain your trust and the eventually take the money and everything eventually. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

  • @lonkster
    @lonkster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +540

    I have no clue who you are, but damn bro. That's tough. I really hope you get everything resolved bro.

    • @lancegarza5681
      @lancegarza5681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same here, I hope he is well

    • @Greenbandido
      @Greenbandido 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same I just started watching

    • @anxerenheze109
      @anxerenheze109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how do you get scammed from a dude named leg???

    • @smolltaco5667
      @smolltaco5667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anxerenheze109 oh i dont know maybe you should try watching the video huh?

    • @anxerenheze109
      @anxerenheze109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@smolltaco5667 i dont watch body parts

  • @infernalimperium
    @infernalimperium ปีที่แล้ว +895

    "An eye for an eye, a leg for a leg"
    -Hammurabi
    But seriously; for you to get back up from nothing- NOTHING- and just absolutely robbed of who you were- that takes some serious dedication and perseverance. Most people in this situation would give up, and nobody would know the story. That is just incredible in my eyes.
    Props to you for just existing through this, and getting back up.
    Props to you, Packgod.

    • @eliterrr
      @eliterrr ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fucking hell lad it’s not by someone random😂 it’s hammurabi

    • @infernalimperium
      @infernalimperium ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eliterrr care to elaborate?

    • @eliterrr
      @eliterrr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@infernalimperium the phrase comes from the king hammurabi. When he introduced laws. If you hit someone’s arm, your arm would be cut. That is the reason for the phrase.

    • @dell988
      @dell988 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@infernalimperium Hammurabi was a Mesopotamian king who recorded a system of laws called the Code of Hammurabi. He ordered 282 laws engraved in stone and placed in a public location for everyone to see. An eye for an eye is one of those laws.

    • @infernalimperium
      @infernalimperium ปีที่แล้ว

      ah thank you!