Thanks for continuing the conversation down here in the comments section everyone! If you want to learn more about the problems of a metal roof, check out this video for the top 7 most common problems: bit.ly/7-common-problems-of-a-metal-roof -Thad
Im pretty sure metal roofing is NOT safe considering the new 5g network getting installed Globally. Your house would most likely be like a microwave compromising your family's health.. NO THANK YOU!! Keep your metal roofing..I'll stick with the current traditional design heavy duty shingles which work just fine.
Every time I bought a new house, always had leaks with a shingle roof 1 to 5 years in. Went with a metal roof 12 years ago. Never looked back. Metal all the way.
I had metal put on my roof a number of years back. There was a bad hail storm and messed up roofs all over the area. I paid about as much as shingles and it still looks great. We have had hail storms since then and my metal roof shrugged it off like water off a ducks back.
When we bought this house, it has a detached garage with a metal roof. We too have had numerous storms and a few winters under our belt. Not sure when that metal roof was put on the garage, but it still looks great.
Thought I was going to see a good objective review....then he considered ripping a shingle a good indicator of durability. At least I know I shouldn't go with asphalt if I'm concerned about King Kong.
@@MrDeano-eu9rg YeA dude only Americans use shingles. The weather variant in the us is crazy, we have deserts, we have artic, we have hurricane corridors, tornado corridors, fault line earthquakes, huge metropolitan cities across the entire country and hundreds of thousands of acres of complete wilderness, mountain ranges, blizzards, heat waves....etc.....so no one type of construction works across the country genius. This isn't the uk where it's just shitty rainy weather and dumbasses who don't brush their teeth and enjoy putting laws on the books to let their government arrest them for offending people. We're not some shitty tiny little island nobody cares about
Oregon forest - 22 years of metal roof with no problems while my shingles on garage need replacement. One thing not mentioned is wasp infestation in metal roof due to many small entry points.
Another thing he forgot to mention is a metal roof doesn't catch fire when sparks land on it. But shingles burn very hot because they are a petroleum product.
Although that is a correct statement, there is a flip side to that coin. Often fire fighters need to cut into a roof to help extinguish a house fire. Metal roofs make that task much more difficult, and that could allow more fire damage to your house. That being said, I still think a metal roof is the way to go.
@@mitherapeuticmassage Actually sheet iron is very thin, and its easier to cut through than a conventional roof. And if you go with metal framing and fire retardant high density spray foam insulation then you will never have a house fire.
MY experience with shingle intallers and their products turned me to metal. Shingles that were to last 25 years lasted 15, 17 nd 15 years. I installed a metal roof 4 years ago and glad I did. Costs of three shingle roofs that were to last 75 years, actually lasting 47 could not match the metal coating warrenty of50 years or the life expentcy of100 years. I opted for thicker metal, covered seam roof. Shingle estament was 19.000 for removing old roof, replacing any under layment and new roof with 30 year shingles. Metal cost was 23,700, removing old, underlayment, add membrane, install roofing and the cost of the roof. The roof should last through my grand childrens life tims.
This is great. Im getting 25k shingle vs 55k metal. Wish it were closer in cost for me. But i feel the same way you do about longevity. hows the roof going now?
How long a metal roof will last depends on several factors. The coating/ paint quality and color matter allot, pitch is a factor but the most important factor is installation. How complete the installation is.. correct fastener tightness and placement are crucial. The right Gable, ridge trim, rubber seals etc.. doing a metal roof right only costs slightly more than doing it wrong but makes all the difference. So many installers learned wrong, teach others wrong..
I’m going with metal on my roof and siding. I can install it myself as well as shingles. The benefits for me with metal is reflective ability and an air gap between the roofing materials and the actual framing of the house while making it possible to vent the metal. I should end up with a cooler home during hot humid summers.
Some uninformed municipalities have restrictions on Metal roofs. The first metal roof is on our garage 15 years ago and shows no deterioration even after a large tree branch fell on it, we live in the Chicago area. Our roofs are not noisy even in heavy rains or hail. Many of the metal roofing products are DIY friendly. Our son 15 (at the time) did 90% of the installations. I expect our roofs to out live me.
I worked in roofing once and I learned to hate Composition roofs. We use to tear off 40 yr roofs that were less than 25 years old and there were literally mountains of this spent junk in the land fill. (really opened my eyes.) The U.S. and Canada are the only countries that use this inferior disposable material on a large scale. Metal roofs are lifetime roofs that can be primed and repainted when the paint looks faded and chalky....and is a 100% recyclable. The house that I was raised in has a metal roof that was put on in 1979. (Still is on)
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 I would talk to some painting contractors as well as a reputal paint store that sells to contractors (Like Sherwin Williams) for advice. The difference between sucess and failure is in the prep like pressure washing first, and priming. I haven't done it, but I've looked into having my shop/barn roof painted. The Sherwin Williams store had some good advice and there are some good TH-cam videos as well.
1) 6K job installing shingles Metal will cost you triple. 16K 2) Shingle will last 30 yrs installed properly METAL 50 YEARS 3) Maintenance. Metal roofs you have to check the screws every 5 years etc.. service call 500-1000k for the check up. That's an extra 1500$ for metal. 4) Metal. If you want to sell your house and new owners want to paint house it's going to look funny a red roof with yellow paint etc. . All in all its what you wanna spend and is logical.
We document old abandoned farm houses here in Missouri- most are over 100 years old or older- of the homes with metal roof very few had water damage inside while the homes that had shingles are a point of no return on the inside 🇺🇸
The shingles that we are been supplied by asphalt suppliers are nothing but GARBAGE these days. The asphalt shingles are not manufactured as well as they were in the past. The amount of recycled paper products in these Newer shingles is higher than the older products that used many layers of heavier construction paper and asphalt layers between the paper layers. The asphalt shingle people install a layer of thin fiber glass to attain a "25 Year" life time. After been a home owner for 37 years I have had to re-roof on a average of 10 to 12 years with asphalt shingles. I purchased a home that was 8 years old and the shingle roof was failing when I moved in. After evaluating the roof as part of the purchase the realtor assured me that there was a 25 year warranty on this roof. Contacting the roof material supplier lead to a very unhappy revelation that their 25 year warranty was not worth the paper it was printed on. The installers used 3 to 4 nails per shingle to install these standard three tab shingles. The installation instructions sent to me by the manufacturer called for NO LESS THAN 6 nails per shingle and even though the shingles failed at the tab joint edges and the tabs were breaking off and littering my yard after EVERY wind event their answer was WARRANTY DENIED. I had an interlocking aluminum shingle roof installed for a few reasons. One 50 guarantee and the company has been around for 60 years. Two the cost was about $10000 above asphalt but if it lasts for even 30 years I am ahead. Three in our area they are charging $5000 for disposal of the old shingles for the amount that is on our house. The aluminum shingles were applied with a new high tech barrier in between right over the asphalt. No disposal. Four the new inter locking shingles are good for 100 MPH winds and the wind blows where I am so this is good. Five these new shingles are hail proof. I have had two re-roofs done in the past due to hail damage. Six my insurance is giving me a discount for this tougher roof as they are expecting no claims for roofing from me. Seven I will never re-roof this house again in my life time.
We have a metal roof . We like it , spent an inheritance wisely for the future , even though ' we ' might never recoup the cost. But my mother may be looking down and be proud of how her money was spent. :-)
Should have addressed the differences between these two when it comes to rain and snow and the effects of the high-friction surface of shingles and the opposing low-friction character of the metal.
Metal roofs are actually pretty easy to install if anything it takes less time to install a metal roof than it does a shingle asphalt roof.. take this from a guy who does this for a living..
question any chance of moss growing under the metal roof, if the metal roof was installed over a shingle roof that had very light moss growth or would it be to hot for moss to continue to grow.
My only concern with a metal roof is I live in an area where fumigating a property is common. Is there a way to prevent damaging a metal roof while walking on it?
You didn't discuss having to periodically replace the seals on every fastener on metal roofs with exposed fasteners. Local roofers are telling me every 8-10 years here in Florida.
We weren't able to cover every issue with every roof type in this single video, but you can check out a video about exposed fastener metal roofing vs. standing seam metal roofing here: bit.ly/EF-vs-SSMR-revisited Thanks for the comment! -Thad
You missed a couple of items. 1. Which roofing is noisier, or can that be mitigated? 2. What about cold climates? Does a shingle roof provide better insulative qualities? Thanks again for the video.
I had a metal roof by Erie installed 2 years ago on my house that was built in 1907. They were supposed to re-sheet and then install the metal shingles. Halfway through the install I realized that they hadn't touched the stack of plywood sheeting. So, I asked what was going on and they told me that since our house was made out of old barn wood purlins and we were installing metal roofing that sheeting wasn't needed. We were given a slight rebate for the cost of the plywood and that was it. Since then, I have had snow come into my attic and now we have bats. Sheeting was part of our contract and they didn't fulfill that part of it the deal and didn't tell us that they were skipping that part, either. Is this true? Do these older houses not need sheeting? Did we get scammed? Thanks!
The problems you have experienced could be attributed to not having a proper deck and dry-in, but it's tough to say without knowing more about the install and your roof. I don't know which panel was put on, but I can say that no one I know of has engineering over wood purlins. For standing seam systems like ones offered by Sheffield Metals, we always recommend they be installed to the engineering we offer, and in your situation that would be over a plywood deck. If you're looking for more specific information, I would suggest either contacting our technical department or talking to someone like Todd Miller of Isaiah Industries that specializes in metal shingles. Here's the link to our tech department: www.sheffieldmetals.com/Resources/Technical-Department And here's the link to Todd Miller's site: www.asktoddmiller.com/ Hopefully you'll find the answers you're looking for! -Thad
He left out my significant question, how much longer do you anticipate living in the house? If less than 20 years it’s hard to justify a metal roof unless you just have plenty of money to sink into your home.
@Fred Wills I told my friend that since I’m 70 I couldn’t justify the extra cost, but if I were a millionaire I would do it. He said that even if he were a millionaire he wouldn’t pay triple for a metal roof over shingle. He’s really cheap. Metal roofs reflect the Sun making cooling a little easier in the south.
in my area i see some metal roofs that have rusted out ares, is it possible to treat the area and paint the roof? asking cause some of the houses i see with rusted areas, are for sale in my price range
Yes, standing seam metal roofing is durable and stands up well to extreme weather when installed properly. There are systems available that have engineering specifically for Florida requirements. -Thad
Well if we compared the best of singles to the worst of metal available that wouldn't be fair. if you upgrade shingles you gotta upgrade metal, in which case metal would still win in most categories
Screw down metal roofing materials are about exact same price as dimensional shingles. Labor prices should be close, depends on contractor. Standing seam metal , much nicer, higher price. Just like a Dade County shingle is premium, higher cost. Metal works well over uneven roof surfaces, if you lay 2x4 grid underneath, pull string lines top/bottom - side/side.Does make roof hard to walk on like this, metal is suspended across 2x4, and not directly laying on plywood, wants to leave wrinkles if not stepping directly on 2x4 underneath. Low pitch roofs, anything under 4/12, strongly recommend metal. Water can backtrack on low slopes, due to high winds, pile of leaves, thawing ice puddles, if water puddles on low slope shingles, it will leak some where. Do not slide metal off stack when installing, pick straight up off stack, the ruff cut ends will scratch next piece of metal underneath it if slid, this will cause rust in scratches. Do not over tighten screws on metal roof screws, it will blow out o-ring gasket. This is why people are having to replace o-rings, after couple years.Tighten screw till o-ring barely compresses, you do not want to over tighten and make a dimple in metal(leak). On metal roofs attaching screws close to edges is key, to surviving high wind storms, end caps protect gable ends. Metal cutting shears can be bought cheap, attach to drill, cut like a hot knife👍 It's all personal choice , unless your Home Owners Assoc says no to metal in neighborhood. If installing shingles use a nail gun, make sure nails completely penetrate thru plywood. If nail does not go completely thru the plywood, the plywood will push it back out within 2-3 yrs. Hammering nails with hammer, has same effect of wanting to push nail back out . Nail guns drive nail so fast , the wood is barely disturbed. Unlike beating your whole roof with hammers.
Im sure this channel is biased but in west texas metal is the most used. my gma has had her metal roof for 20 years! and it looks like it did the day it was installed has never leaked since it was installed. and people worried about cell reception, she lives in the boonies and I get cell reception fine in her house.
This 30 Ga roofing metal is noisy and hail will dent it so you get a new roof and the insurance company pays for it . . . that drives up insurance cost. This 30 Ga steel comes on rolls weighting 1 to 5 tons from China and is then formed on a press and a finish applied. If you look at the roof in shopping centers you will see how this thin metal can be torn off by high wind as in the Bass Pro shop Center in St. Charles, Mo. My personal requirement would be 25 -28 Ga metal thickness and the edges sealed down to prevent hail and wind damage. . . then coated with fire brick cement to withstand high temperature from the sun. . . and to stop the noise from the rain and especially hail.
I recently consulted with a roofer since my shingled house keeps having leaks - I get someone to patch, it holds for a while, then leaks again. I am single with limited income, but want to get something to outlast me, a quality product and installation, something easy to clean and maintain, something to allow rain collection and solar panels eventually. So I was really interested in a metal roof. This roofer I talked to, discouraged me, saying the metal itself lasted well, but the connectors leaked in a much shorter time, and he'd seen a lot of trouble with this on church roofs, etc. What is your take on this? My house roof is pretty simple, 1 story ranch, not many angles or valleys. I would think it's not hard to install or maintain a metal roof if done right.
One note on the availability of installers, there is also more risk that someone that barely knows what they are doing to do a bad job. Many of them in my area are convicts and spent some time behind bars. I hired. A guy once that drank a case of beer while working on my roof.
AND YOU DIDMT FIRE HIM? AFTER FILMING HIM.SO. YOUMCOULDNT BE SUED.OR.MADE.PAY.BACK.HIS.TIME! THATS ILLEGAL AND.A.CRIME.AND ENDANGERING YOURMFAMILY WITH DRUNKEN ROOF.WORK!!
I didn't hear any mention of snow concerns. In many parts of Canada people are removing their metal roofs as they can become a bit of a death trap with huge snow drifts sliding off of the roofs. The little stops they install to try and prevent this don't do much for the heavy amounts of snow people get in the North.
I'm undecided. I live in A VERY windy location. I currently have shingles. Wind damaged much of it. It is seriously bad. But the singles are old. I had a metal roof contractor give me a quote. Then I had several shingle roofing companies give me quotes. The shingles were always more expensive because the roofers all told me that because the current roof is nailed directly on "barn boards", they have to lay new plywood down on the entire roof. Whereas the metal roof contractor told me he'll just strap the old roof and put metal right on top. An experienced, well-respected real estate agent told me to go for shingles because it looks better, and because metal roofs that are strapped on typically have issues with ventilation, and premature rot in the future. So hearing all this, I'm confused. Do any of you have a good piece of advice?
I have not had one single incident of roof rot in over 60 years business. Go metal it.will.save you tens.of.thousands in the future and rookie agent simply has to.turn the look.of.the metal roof as a great thing. GET A METAL ROOF THAMK ME LATER.BY THE.WAY IN 60YRS!! MY FATHER AND I HAVE HAD NOT ONE.SINGLE COMPLAINT OR.ISSUE!!! THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR GREAT METAL ROOF INSTALLLERS. WE TAKE.GREAT PRIDE IN OUR WORK KNOWIMG OUR. LIENT IS.GETTIMG A.BETTER PRODUCT FOR.CHEAPER. AND WE GIVE.A.LIFETIME.GARANTEE!!! MAKE.SURE.YOUR ROOFER.DOES.THE.SAME. THAT INCLUDES FIXING ANY PROBLEMS WHICH WILL 99% NOT.EVEN.ARISE! I.WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK!!!
And ventilation?? Hahhahaha that was her version of se)in you.snake.oil. it simply does.not.exist!!! I mean logically think about it! Haha.oh goodness.she.REALLY.wanted the look of those.shingles good God PLUS THE METAL.ROOF.ADDS.VALUE.TO.YOURE HOME.MAKING IT.WORTH MORE!!!!!
Had my roof replaced with shingles 3 years ago along with everyone else in the neighborhood due to hail. 2.5" hail wiped out my roof again this past spring, along with the rest of the neighborhood, again. Cost is the #1 thing keeping shingles on everyone's house, along with a crooked ass roofing industry that just wants to see what your insurance will pay and then mark up the replacement to exactly what they're paying out. If I didn't have a baby on the way and it wasn't a significant upgrade to go to metal, my house would have metal on it no question. Shingles are shit, and so are the majority of the roofing companies playing the game. I'm only here because I'm building a shed right now, and with materials costs and my existing stock on hand, it's going to be a welded steel frame with metal walls and roofing on it. This dude is being way too nice to shingles. He has every right to be more discriminating.
There are some pros and cons to putting metal over shingles, but to me the bottom line is that if the shingles get removed first, you have an opportunity to inspect and properly repair the plywood roof deck. Check out these videos for more: bit.ly/metal-roof-over-shingle-roof-video bit.ly/installing-metal-roof-over-shingles-video -Thad
I'm getting my metal roof put over my shingles. I only have one layer. I don't know why it would be an issue if the metal roof is installed correctly and should be waterproof. My contract comes with 10 year labor warranty and 40 year for the materials. As long as both last until I'm 80, which is a mere 22 years from now, I'll be happy.
Hello! It will depend on your decking, installation, attic space, etc. If you want to learn more, I cover that topic in our metal roofing myths video: bit.ly/metal-roof-myths-video Thanks! -Thad
This is a pitch. He is selling. Some of the things he says are not exactly true. As an inspector and previous contractor I can say that there are applications that lend to both types of roofing systems. For a house, my personal choice would be/is shingles.
Does anyone know if it has been attempted to put metal panels directly on top over existing shingles? engineering wise I would expect it to be fine, but likely bureaucracy prevents it from being done ?
Hey, Joey! We have a whitepaper from the MCA on our website that will answer your question: bit.ly/metal-roofing-and-lightning Thanks for your comment! -Thad
What about noise? I live in an area that gets very heavy rain for long periods at a time. I haven’t designed my new house yet so I might have an upstairs that the roof doubles as some of the walls. Is rain beating on a metal roof louder then asphalt?
Hello! There most likely shouldn't be more noticeable noise, but it will depend largely on what type of deck assembly you will be designing into your house. If you want to discuss specifics, feel free to call Jeff, the Sheffield Metals technical director, here: 904.451.5989 Thanks for the question! -Thad
I have a buddy who has been a roofer for a long time and does standing seam as well as tray roofing with a metal base that is covered with asphalt and rock at times to extend the life. I have been thinking about having our roof replaced with a metal roof as it's losing much of the tiny granular material and it's three layers, so it needs complete tear off. I am wondering from time I'd spent at my great grandma's as it was a corregated hot dipped galvanized roof and in bad storms you could hear the impact of rain and hail. Does this play in as a factor in metal roof systems?
Hey Shawn! Check out our Metal Roofing Myths blog article; we reference rain/weather sounds. Myth #2 should answer your question: bit.ly/metal-roofing-myths Thanks for the comment! -Thad
@@dangda-ww7de Tar paper is for hot tar roof, and goes under asphalt shingles , not metal roof. Never should need tar paper at all on a metal roof. But even if you do use it then it would be fine even after 50 years. Because no water or sunshine will ever see it. The tar paper will still look like new after 50 years.
Hello! There are a ton of factors that go into cost, but we discuss some median prices on this metal vs. shingle blog article: bit.ly/metal-roofing-vs-shingle-roofing Thanks for the comment! -Thad
@@billwilliams9897 how hot it can burn has no bearing in how easily it burns. The wood your house is most likely made from will catch fire and burn to the ground long before asphalt shingles ever will. It's really a non issue when it comes to issues with house fires. Both internal ones as well as external ones.
@@organicdudranch A high quality PVDF paint system will last a long time on your roof system. If you want to learn more you can check out these videos about metal roofing paint here: bit.ly/pvdf-vs-smp-video bit.ly/chalking-and-fading-video Thanks for the comment! -Thad
Why, in your comparison, didn't you consider slate shingles? My parents slate shingle roof in a hardy four season environment has required very little maintenance over 70 years with the only problem being a few shingles delaminating or the steel nails holding them in place rusting away. Their home was built in 1947 when they didn't have corrosion free nails and still they've had very few failures over 70 years and it's still wonderful. I know the one big consideration is the much higher initial cost of slate shingles and their proper installation but averaged over their now 70 year old roof, their slate shingles have been relatively very much cheaper and also slate is extraordinarily very aestheticly pleasing.
Hello, thanks for the question and great story about your parents' roof! We are going to be releasing some more comparison videos early next year, and I can add slate shingles to the list of possibilities. Have a good one! -Thad
great video :-) in your list you forgot 2 important point. 1st ease of cleaning (removing snow for those who have to (metal roofing is very slippery)) and 2nd, noise (very noisy when it rains)
Of course I don't think you're trying, but it's still obvious what side you'd be on just reading the bottom of your checklist pad. I'm interested in a metal roof, but I'm going to have to get a local estimate.
Metal roofing is so much better of an option if you install photovoltaic panels, you will know sooner when you have a short from the panels to the roofing.
Living in Florida, I've seen plenty of metal roofs. The only ones that seem to remain good looking over time are the silver color, unpainted type. Every colored roof I've seen fade horribly over time.
Cons. Of metal. 1 hard to use in an arch. 2 if a piece gets damaged in the middle to replace a single damaged piece is difficult. 3 if you add an addition to the building the chances are colors don’t match. 4 if you get large hail it can make the roof really ugly and the insurance usually won’t cover replacing it just based on appearance. 5 exposed screw type has rubber washers that will rot over time 10 yrs and should be replaced. 6 can’t just go to big box store to get any standing seam. Must rely on local installer with special equipment to make.
Thanks for sharing! Here is a video we did about common problems with metal that include a few more potential issues as well: bit.ly/metal-roof-problems-video -Thad
Hello! We have a video in the works for metal roof maintenance/cleaning, but in the meantime you can check out this blog article covering the topic: bit.ly/how-to-clean-metal-roofing Metal roofing will fade over time, and the quality of the paint system you choose has a huge impact on how long it will take for your roof to noticeably fade. This Q&A episode will explain more in detail: bit.ly/chalking-and-fading-video Thanks for the comment! -Thad
If you do it carefully , you step where it is strongest, where one 'shingle ' meets another . If you step in centre your weight will press down and leave a possible dent.
What is not known is insurance companies deduct a certain amount once a shingle roof reaches 80% of the manufacturer speciations on life of shingles....had a customer that had 20year shingles. He treat his roof better than his first born. He got 28 years and the insurance company deducted 270.00 from every year after 20
You are forgetting that the metal roofs are also practically fireproof. It a house, or a tree is burning in proximity there is a big chance that the wind will land some burning debris on your roof.
Emil! while the metal conducts electricity the resistance to lightening creates heat sufficiently to start fires in the wood underneath; also, metal gets real hot in the summer and if there is tar holding the sand just as with asphalt the sand will wash down into the gutters and clog drains in time.
Thanks for sharing! If you want to learn more about metal roofs and fire, check out this video on fire rated products vs. fire rated assemblies: bit.ly/fire-rated-assembly-vs-product-video -Thad
comp shingles are easy to repair. from a tree hitting it. other woops.. just doing roof demand a bundle left over correct color for repairs..they never refuse..roofs are in batches new bundles wont match// after 12 homes one learns kiss... repairableity is a must..
Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!
Thank you for this. We are just starting the roofing replacement "experience" (some have called it a portal to hell) and this is a good start. If you or anyone has a link as to what to keep aware of in this process including legal, that would be appreciated. Again thanks.
Hey Grant, thanks for the comment. We just came out with a video to address hail damage and insurance coverage. Check it out here: bit.ly/metal-roofing-and-hail Thanks! -Thad
I'm in Florida and when I buy my first house I will be replacing the roof with a metal one. I am happy to know there are a variety of colors for metal roofs. Thanks for the info!
#1 Question .. "How much longer am I going to be alive to care?" We actually are considering a stamped shingle shaped metal roof. I'll probably be alive 25 more years and either roof will probably outlive me so who cares?!
Some of us pay off a property to then hand down to children, and their children. In families where legacy is important, the house must last more than one lifetime.
@@shanepossible3766 .. Never had a mortgage or auto loan, semi-retired to Florida since I was 38. That said, short of living in some hayseed boondocks e.g. farming or some massive multi-million estate, most everyone prefers newer homes. In Florida a 20 year old home is a full blown reno job. Most neighborhoods, and I'm talking $1M plus deteriorate over time. Even in a few ultra elite neighborhoods most people prefer to bulldoze and rebuild.
@@DJaquithFL That could be more for the lack of craftsmanship and good materials used. Any well built home using good materials last 100 years or more if decently maintained. Noe Florida may be some exception, but most of the nation is filled with older homes and where people stay longer. I put a metal roof on because I plan on staying in my home for decades and a metal roof will last that long. A metal roof will also be cheaper that to put 2-3 more asphalt roofs on in the same time period.
@@alumniduck .. In Florida its the combo of salt air, high humidity, monsoon summer rainy season and direct hot sun. The sun will strip the paint off your brand new car in 2-3 years .. it's really harsh. After this, I'd had to sue the HOA and PUD to allow a metal roof. Here it's all tile that's allowed. You get algae on your roof and it requires every other year (if that) power washing with a chlorine (aka bleach). The tile isn't even the actual roof .. there's a sub-roof.
@@DJaquithFL you need to buy better cars, we have the same sun in California that you have and sand storms typically are the problem. Also I have not seen paint failures from UV light since the 80's when GM and Toyota blue paints were problematic.
I have installed both. Metal is fat superior. It will last you a lifetime. If it was me tho... I'd do shingle for the cost factor... and rather pay another smaller price 18 yrs down the line However as a roofer. I'd love to install a standing seem over a shingle. I'd make way more money. I'm more of a torch on flat roof guy myself. I still believe a metal roof is the only roof that can last 100+ years
I live in the burbs and considering metal roof. Metal is the way to go but it will look so different from everyone else😤 also the noise when it rains, I'm not sure how it will be.
Hmmm do I wanna spend 7,000 70 Bundle roof an Architectural Roof that will last me 30 years (Lifetime) if done properly with good ventilation or do I wanna spend 17,000 for the exact same project but for a (METAL ROOF) that will last me 50 years. so basically it evens out in the long term. oh yeah METAL ROOF keep in mind of maintenance extra 4Grand Maintenance. so total Metal 21,000$ 50 years Architectural shingles 7,000$ 30 years Both are good choices depending what you wanna spend
OK, obviously metal roof is the best overall. However, even from reading many of the comments. what I am hearing Is metal is better if you got the money and you are in it for the long term. I live in a mobile home, I don’t plan to even be here 5 years from now, I don’t have or want to sink a lot into this mobile home. I am NOT a roofer but I have some construction knowledge but no roofing experience (so less skill and time for shingles sounds good). I plan on just fixing leaks and doing sections of the roof at a time. So, for my situation shingles are the best option.
Hello! Sounds like you have a good handle of your situation, and I would tend to agree with you here. Sometimes shingles are the right choice depending on your needs. Good luck and thanks for the comment! -Thad
The presenter said you should clean the debris off your roof. Enjoy the ride down your metal roof! Metal is slippery if it has moisture, or even dust on it. Asphalt is safer and easier to repair 8f there's a problem.
after installing metal roof on my barn the sticks and debris from neighboring tree slides right off. I installed the sheet metal and have not needed to go back up since.
I was wondering why anyone would use shingles on a roof. Maybe sheet metal used to be a lot more expensive 40 years ago? sounds like it's on the same level as a hand powered drill-press.
Thad: I came here for an honest comparison..and that's exactly what I got. But I stayed because you are really handsome with a beautiful voice. Thanks for the info AND eye candy. 😉👍
Thanks for continuing the conversation down here in the comments section everyone! If you want to learn more about the problems of a metal roof, check out this video for the top 7 most common problems: bit.ly/7-common-problems-of-a-metal-roof
-Thad
You missed the big question. Doesn't rain sound like an EDM dubstep rave on your roof?
What’s the minimum pitch for 29 gauge galvalume???
Im pretty sure metal roofing is NOT safe considering the new 5g network getting installed Globally. Your house would most likely be like a microwave compromising your family's health.. NO THANK YOU!! Keep your metal roofing..I'll stick with the current traditional design heavy duty shingles which work just fine.
Good knowledge and information, thank you.
Green should go to hell, I don't want anything to do with green.
Every time I bought a new house, always had leaks with a shingle roof 1 to 5 years in. Went with a metal roof 12 years ago. Never looked back. Metal all the way.
goodstuffohhyeah bad roofers
I once saw a building with 7 shingle roofs at the same time (new one installed without removing old on type thing) and leaked quite a bit.
Hi. Did you take off to the shingle roofing ?or putting on the shingle roof ?
@@faizm8309 went right over the shingles but used wooden beams over top the shingles to create a space between the metal roof and shingles
@@MoparSammy Yeah that too
I had metal put on my roof a number of years back. There was a bad hail storm and messed up roofs all over the area. I paid about as much as shingles and it still looks great. We have had hail storms since then and my metal roof shrugged it off like water off a ducks back.
When we bought this house, it has a detached garage with a metal roof. We too have had numerous storms and a few winters under our belt. Not sure when that metal roof was put on the garage, but it still looks great.
Finally an unbiased opinion! Oh wait....
Thought I was going to see a good objective review....then he considered ripping a shingle a good indicator of durability. At least I know I shouldn't go with asphalt if I'm concerned about King Kong.
@@galenhayek mate its not biased if its true, shingles are trash and I don't know why Americans use them.
@@MrDeano-eu9rg cause the avg cost for a metal roof is over 30,000 I would think
@@daryloverbey5846 yea but ya get what ya pay for and, if done right, will cost less over the life time.
@@MrDeano-eu9rg YeA dude only Americans use shingles. The weather variant in the us is crazy, we have deserts, we have artic, we have hurricane corridors, tornado corridors, fault line earthquakes, huge metropolitan cities across the entire country and hundreds of thousands of acres of complete wilderness, mountain ranges, blizzards, heat waves....etc.....so no one type of construction works across the country genius. This isn't the uk where it's just shitty rainy weather and dumbasses who don't brush their teeth and enjoy putting laws on the books to let their government arrest them for offending people. We're not some shitty tiny little island nobody cares about
Oregon forest - 22 years of metal roof with no problems while my shingles on garage need replacement. One thing not mentioned is wasp infestation in metal roof due to many small entry points.
That comes down to the installer
Spray wasps with diluted dawn dish soap
How does one prevent this?
Another thing he forgot to mention is a metal roof doesn't catch fire when sparks land on it. But shingles burn very hot because they are a petroleum product.
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@@tijnarbrd you are welcome
Although that is a correct statement, there is a flip side to that coin. Often fire fighters need to cut into a roof to help extinguish a house fire. Metal roofs make that task much more difficult, and that could allow more fire damage to your house. That being said, I still think a metal roof is the way to go.
@@mitherapeuticmassage Actually sheet iron is very thin, and its easier to cut through than a conventional roof. And if you go with metal framing and fire retardant high density spray foam insulation then you will never have a house fire.
@@billwilliams9897 If I were to have a home built. I would use Insulated Concrete Forms, and steel framing. Fire would never be a concern :)
Someone mentioned building a shed. it gives me a great idea, I can practice putting on metal roof on the kids' play shed that currently has shingles.
MY experience with shingle intallers and their products turned me to metal. Shingles that were to last 25 years lasted 15, 17 nd 15 years. I installed a metal roof 4 years ago and glad I did. Costs of three shingle roofs that were to last 75 years, actually lasting 47 could not match the metal coating warrenty of50 years or the life expentcy of100 years. I opted for thicker metal, covered seam roof. Shingle estament was 19.000 for removing old roof, replacing any under layment and new roof with 30 year shingles. Metal cost was 23,700, removing old, underlayment, add membrane, install roofing and the cost of the roof. The roof should last through my grand childrens life tims.
This is great. Im getting 25k shingle vs 55k metal. Wish it were closer in cost for me. But i feel the same way you do about longevity. hows the roof going now?
How long a metal roof will last depends on several factors. The coating/ paint quality and color matter allot, pitch is a factor but the most important factor is installation. How complete the installation is.. correct fastener tightness and placement are crucial. The right Gable, ridge trim, rubber seals etc.. doing a metal roof right only costs slightly more than doing it wrong but makes all the difference. So many installers learned wrong, teach others wrong..
I’m going with metal on my roof and siding. I can install it myself as well as shingles. The benefits for me with metal is reflective ability and an air gap between the roofing materials and the actual framing of the house while making it possible to vent the metal. I should end up with a cooler home during hot humid summers.
Some uninformed municipalities have restrictions on Metal roofs.
The first metal roof is on our garage 15 years ago and shows no deterioration even after a large tree branch fell on it, we live in the Chicago area.
Our roofs are not noisy even in heavy rains or hail.
Many of the metal roofing products are DIY friendly. Our son 15 (at the time) did 90% of the installations.
I expect our roofs to out live me.
I worked in roofing once and I learned to hate Composition roofs. We use to tear off 40 yr roofs that were less than 25 years old and there were literally mountains of this spent junk in the land fill. (really opened my eyes.) The U.S. and Canada are the only countries that use this inferior disposable material on a large scale. Metal roofs are lifetime roofs that can be primed and repainted when the paint looks faded and chalky....and is a 100% recyclable.
The house that I was raised in has a metal roof that was put on in 1979. (Still is on)
100% accurate!
my roof needs to be repainted. how do i find someone and any idea of cost?
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 I would talk to some painting contractors as well as a reputal paint store that sells to contractors (Like Sherwin Williams) for advice. The difference between sucess and failure is in the prep like pressure washing first, and priming. I haven't done it, but I've looked into having my shop/barn roof painted. The Sherwin Williams store had some good advice and there are some good TH-cam videos as well.
@@martinschulz9381 thanks
Nice. Unfortunately due to costs , shingles are easier for most to buy
1) 6K job installing shingles
Metal will cost you triple. 16K
2) Shingle will last 30 yrs installed properly
METAL 50 YEARS
3) Maintenance. Metal roofs you have to check the screws every 5 years etc.. service call 500-1000k for the check up. That's an extra 1500$ for metal.
4) Metal. If you want to sell your house and new owners want to paint house it's going to look funny a red roof with yellow paint etc. .
All in all its what you wanna spend and is logical.
Metal can be far more slippery than shingle, so be careful folks!
Daniel Hayek That was my main concern. Slips, cuts, and dents.
Daniel Hayek that’s why you wear shoes not work boots
We document old abandoned farm houses here in Missouri- most are over 100 years old or older- of the homes with metal roof very few had water damage inside while the homes that had shingles are a point of no return on the inside 🇺🇸
yea, its a shame to see an entire building disintegrate when all it need was sheet metal roof.
Aye im a roofer from southern missouri yeeyee
Do you think the quality of metal from the old houses is the same today?
The shingles that we are been supplied by asphalt suppliers are nothing but GARBAGE these days. The asphalt shingles are not manufactured as well as they were in the past. The amount of recycled paper products in these Newer shingles is higher than the older products that used many layers of heavier construction paper and asphalt layers between the paper layers. The asphalt shingle people install a layer of thin fiber glass to attain a "25 Year" life time. After been a home owner for 37 years I have had to re-roof on a average of 10 to 12 years with asphalt shingles. I purchased a home that was 8 years old and the shingle roof was failing when I moved in. After evaluating the roof as part of the purchase the realtor assured me that there was a 25 year warranty on this roof. Contacting the roof material supplier lead to a very unhappy revelation that their 25 year warranty was not worth the paper it was printed on. The installers used 3 to 4 nails per shingle to install these standard three tab shingles. The installation instructions sent to me by the manufacturer called for NO LESS THAN 6 nails per shingle and even though the shingles failed at the tab joint edges and the tabs were breaking off and littering my yard after EVERY wind event their answer was WARRANTY DENIED. I had an interlocking aluminum shingle roof installed for a few reasons. One 50 guarantee and the company has been around for 60 years. Two the cost was about $10000 above asphalt but if it lasts for even 30 years I am ahead. Three in our area they are charging $5000 for disposal of the old shingles for the amount that is on our house. The aluminum shingles were applied with a new high tech barrier in between right over the asphalt. No disposal. Four the new inter locking shingles are good for 100 MPH winds and the wind blows where I am so this is good. Five these new shingles are hail proof. I have had two re-roofs done in the past due to hail damage. Six my insurance is giving me a discount for this tougher roof as they are expecting no claims for roofing from me. Seven I will never re-roof this house again in my life time.
We have a metal roof . We like it , spent an inheritance wisely for the future , even though ' we ' might never recoup the cost. But my mother may be looking down and be proud of how her money was spent. :-)
I swear I'm not gay
Should have addressed the differences between these two when it comes to rain and snow and the effects of the high-friction surface of shingles and the opposing low-friction character of the metal.
Metal roofs are actually pretty easy to install if anything it takes less time to install a metal roof than it does a shingle asphalt roof.. take this from a guy who does this for a living..
You are 100% correct.
Come do my roof.
That makes sense. Thanks.
question any chance of moss growing under the metal roof, if the metal roof was installed over a shingle roof that had very light moss growth or would it be to hot for moss to continue to grow.
@@paultaylor7570this is a great question. any answers?
Make sure you install metal roofing that doesn’t have exposed screws.
Everyone "seams" to learn this one the hard way. Lol
My only concern with a metal roof is I live in an area where fumigating a property is common. Is there a way to prevent damaging a metal roof while walking on it?
ricky v we have had no issues with that
@@monteglover4133 Aight and thank you for letting me know. (:
You didn't discuss having to periodically replace the seals on every fastener on metal roofs with exposed fasteners. Local roofers are telling me every 8-10 years here in Florida.
We weren't able to cover every issue with every roof type in this single video, but you can check out a video about exposed fastener metal roofing vs. standing seam metal roofing here: bit.ly/EF-vs-SSMR-revisited
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
There are several options in metal roofing with hidden fasteners
Live i nth qld aust. Cyclones and all that shit. Seals last longer that that
Resale value of shingles versus metal comparison pls?
Temperature difference between the two from sun exposure??
Also, the radiant heat temperature between the two?
Metal good, asphalt bad.
You missed a couple of items.
1. Which roofing is noisier, or can that be mitigated?
2. What about cold climates? Does a shingle roof provide better insulative qualities?
Thanks again for the video.
I had a metal roof by Erie installed 2 years ago on my house that was built in 1907. They were supposed to re-sheet and then install the metal shingles. Halfway through the install I realized that they hadn't touched the stack of plywood sheeting. So, I asked what was going on and they told me that since our house was made out of old barn wood purlins and we were installing metal roofing that sheeting wasn't needed. We were given a slight rebate for the cost of the plywood and that was it. Since then, I have had snow come into my attic and now we have bats. Sheeting was part of our contract and they didn't fulfill that part of it the deal and didn't tell us that they were skipping that part, either.
Is this true? Do these older houses not need sheeting? Did we get scammed? Thanks!
The problems you have experienced could be attributed to not having a proper deck and dry-in, but it's tough to say without knowing more about the install and your roof. I don't know which panel was put on, but I can say that no one I know of has engineering over wood purlins. For standing seam systems like ones offered by Sheffield Metals, we always recommend they be installed to the engineering we offer, and in your situation that would be over a plywood deck. If you're looking for more specific information, I would suggest either contacting our technical department or talking to someone like Todd Miller of Isaiah Industries that specializes in metal shingles. Here's the link to our tech department: www.sheffieldmetals.com/Resources/Technical-Department And here's the link to Todd Miller's site: www.asktoddmiller.com/ Hopefully you'll find the answers you're looking for! -Thad
@@TheMetalRoofingChannel Thank you so much!
Yes u got.scammed BUT YOU HAVE A.COMTRACT. EASY.LAWSUIT. YOU.WILL.GET MORE.MONEY BACK.THEN YOU.THIMK.:)
He left out my significant question, how much longer do you anticipate living in the house? If less than 20 years it’s hard to justify a metal roof unless you just have plenty of money to sink into your home.
@Fred Wills
I told my friend that since I’m 70 I couldn’t justify the extra cost, but if I were a millionaire I would do it. He said that even if he were a millionaire he wouldn’t pay triple for a metal roof over shingle. He’s really cheap. Metal roofs reflect the Sun making cooling a little easier in the south.
in my area i see some metal roofs that have rusted out ares, is it possible to treat the area and paint the roof?
asking cause some of the houses i see with rusted areas, are for sale in my price range
Metal roof with rust or premature fading requires replacement if you want to restore.
"The Metal Roofing Channel
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Might be a little bias towards metal roof...
and so am I, steel roofs are far superior.
Dude that slipped past me
In the future I won't live in the garage-shed. We have bad hailstorms. What should I do? Steel or shingles. 14x32 or 14x36.
if you have a shingle roof and want to go metal do the shingles have to be removed to put the metal in place?
Is medal good for florida Weather?
Yes, standing seam metal roofing is durable and stands up well to extreme weather when installed properly. There are systems available that have engineering specifically for Florida requirements. -Thad
Contact Dr.Anii on TH-cam he cured mine.
Which one is noisier in heavy rain- hail storm?
sptrader. metal. naturally..
Let's get a comparison between a platinum dealer installed Owen's Corning roof with Duration shingle and a metal roof.
Well if we compared the best of singles to the worst of metal available that wouldn't be fair. if you upgrade shingles you gotta upgrade metal, in which case metal would still win in most categories
You're comparing zebras to planks of wood..comparison must be.fair.similair I'm cost. My metal roof .has a lifetime warranty!!!
Screw down metal roofing materials are about exact same price as dimensional shingles.
Labor prices should be close, depends on contractor.
Standing seam metal , much nicer, higher price.
Just like a Dade County shingle is premium, higher cost.
Metal works well over uneven roof surfaces, if you lay 2x4 grid underneath, pull string lines top/bottom - side/side.Does make roof hard to walk on like this, metal is suspended across 2x4, and not directly laying on plywood, wants to leave wrinkles if not stepping directly on 2x4 underneath.
Low pitch roofs, anything under 4/12, strongly recommend metal.
Water can backtrack on low slopes, due to high winds, pile of leaves, thawing ice puddles, if water puddles on low slope shingles, it will leak some where.
Do not slide metal off stack when installing, pick straight up off stack, the ruff cut ends will scratch next piece of metal underneath it if slid, this will cause rust in scratches.
Do not over tighten screws on metal roof screws, it will blow out o-ring gasket. This is why people are having to replace o-rings, after couple years.Tighten screw till o-ring barely compresses, you do not want to over tighten and make a dimple in metal(leak).
On metal roofs attaching screws close to edges is key, to surviving high wind storms, end caps protect gable ends.
Metal cutting shears can be bought cheap, attach to drill, cut like a hot knife👍
It's all personal choice , unless your Home Owners Assoc says no to metal in neighborhood.
If installing shingles use a nail gun, make sure nails completely penetrate thru plywood. If nail does not go completely thru the plywood, the plywood will push it back out within 2-3 yrs.
Hammering nails with hammer, has same effect of wanting to push nail back out .
Nail guns drive nail so fast , the wood is barely disturbed. Unlike beating your whole roof with hammers.
Im sure this channel is biased but in west texas metal is the most used. my gma has had her metal roof for 20 years! and it looks like it did the day it was installed has never leaked since it was installed. and people worried about cell reception, she lives in the boonies and I get cell reception fine in her house.
How about a price. Like an estimate price for like a 12,000 square foot roof?
This 30 Ga roofing metal is noisy and hail will dent it so you get a new roof and the insurance company pays for it . . . that drives up insurance cost. This 30 Ga steel comes on rolls weighting 1 to 5 tons from China and is then formed on a press and a finish applied. If you look at the roof in shopping centers you will see how this thin metal can be torn off by high wind as in the Bass Pro
shop Center in St. Charles, Mo. My personal requirement would be 25 -28 Ga metal thickness and
the edges sealed down to prevent hail and wind damage. . . then coated with fire brick cement to withstand high temperature from the sun. . . and to stop the noise from the rain and especially hail.
I recently consulted with a roofer since my shingled house keeps having leaks - I get someone to patch, it holds for a while, then leaks again. I am single with limited income, but want to get something to outlast me, a quality product and installation, something easy to clean and maintain, something to allow rain collection and solar panels eventually. So I was really interested in a metal roof. This roofer I talked to, discouraged me, saying the metal itself lasted well, but the connectors leaked in a much shorter time, and he'd seen a lot of trouble with this on church roofs, etc. What is your take on this? My house roof is pretty simple, 1 story ranch, not many angles or valleys. I would think it's not hard to install or maintain a metal roof if done right.
One note on the availability of installers, there is also more risk that someone that barely knows what they are doing to do a bad job. Many of them in my area are convicts and spent some time behind bars. I hired. A guy once that drank a case of beer while working on my roof.
AND YOU DIDMT FIRE HIM? AFTER FILMING HIM.SO. YOUMCOULDNT BE SUED.OR.MADE.PAY.BACK.HIS.TIME! THATS ILLEGAL AND.A.CRIME.AND ENDANGERING YOURMFAMILY WITH DRUNKEN ROOF.WORK!!
I didn't hear any mention of snow concerns. In many parts of Canada people are removing their metal roofs as they can become a bit of a death trap with huge snow drifts sliding off of the roofs. The little stops they install to try and prevent this don't do much for the heavy amounts of snow people get in the North.
I'm undecided. I live in A VERY windy location. I currently have shingles. Wind damaged much of it. It is seriously bad. But the singles are old.
I had a metal roof contractor give me a quote. Then I had several shingle roofing companies give me quotes. The shingles were always more expensive because the roofers all told me that because the current roof is nailed directly on "barn boards", they have to lay new plywood down on the entire roof. Whereas the metal roof contractor told me he'll just strap the old roof and put metal right on top.
An experienced, well-respected real estate agent told me to go for shingles because it looks better, and because metal roofs that are strapped on typically have issues with ventilation, and premature rot in the future.
So hearing all this, I'm confused. Do any of you have a good piece of advice?
I have not had one single incident of roof rot in over 60 years business. Go metal it.will.save you tens.of.thousands in the future and rookie agent simply has to.turn the look.of.the metal roof as a great thing. GET A METAL ROOF THAMK ME LATER.BY THE.WAY IN 60YRS!! MY FATHER AND I HAVE HAD NOT ONE.SINGLE COMPLAINT OR.ISSUE!!! THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR GREAT METAL ROOF INSTALLLERS. WE TAKE.GREAT PRIDE IN OUR WORK KNOWIMG OUR. LIENT IS.GETTIMG A.BETTER PRODUCT FOR.CHEAPER. AND WE GIVE.A.LIFETIME.GARANTEE!!! MAKE.SURE.YOUR ROOFER.DOES.THE.SAME. THAT INCLUDES FIXING ANY PROBLEMS WHICH WILL 99% NOT.EVEN.ARISE! I.WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK!!!
And ventilation?? Hahhahaha that was her version of se)in you.snake.oil. it simply does.not.exist!!! I mean logically think about it! Haha.oh goodness.she.REALLY.wanted the look of those.shingles good God PLUS THE METAL.ROOF.ADDS.VALUE.TO.YOURE HOME.MAKING IT.WORTH MORE!!!!!
What choice did you make?
Had my roof replaced with shingles 3 years ago along with everyone else in the neighborhood due to hail. 2.5" hail wiped out my roof again this past spring, along with the rest of the neighborhood, again. Cost is the #1 thing keeping shingles on everyone's house, along with a crooked ass roofing industry that just wants to see what your insurance will pay and then mark up the replacement to exactly what they're paying out. If I didn't have a baby on the way and it wasn't a significant upgrade to go to metal, my house would have metal on it no question. Shingles are shit, and so are the majority of the roofing companies playing the game. I'm only here because I'm building a shed right now, and with materials costs and my existing stock on hand, it's going to be a welded steel frame with metal walls and roofing on it.
This dude is being way too nice to shingles. He has every right to be more discriminating.
Sorry to hear what happened to you. You gave a real life situation passionate and honest answer... Thanks!!!
How about the noise characteristic due to rain or hailstorm?
I see some people cover the Metal roof over the Shingle roof, Does it have problem later or not?
There are some pros and cons to putting metal over shingles, but to me the bottom line is that if the shingles get removed first, you have an opportunity to inspect and properly repair the plywood roof deck. Check out these videos for more: bit.ly/metal-roof-over-shingle-roof-video bit.ly/installing-metal-roof-over-shingles-video -Thad
I'm getting my metal roof put over my shingles. I only have one layer. I don't know why it would be an issue if the metal roof is installed correctly and should be waterproof. My contract comes with 10 year labor warranty and 40 year for the materials. As long as both last until I'm 80, which is a mere 22 years from now, I'll be happy.
Does the metal roof interfere with cell phone signal reception?
For me the Peace of Mind of not having any water dumped into my home is worth it enough
It does in weaker signal areas. In strong areas usually don't just a little.
I am looking to install a metal roof, but question I have is will heavy rain be loud ? Would i hear the rain from from the inside?
Hello! It will depend on your decking, installation, attic space, etc. If you want to learn more, I cover that topic in our metal roofing myths video: bit.ly/metal-roof-myths-video
Thanks! -Thad
The most important question was missed. How long do you beleive you will remain in your house before selling?
This is a pitch. He is selling. Some of the things he says are not exactly true. As an inspector and previous contractor I can say that there are applications that lend to both types of roofing systems. For a house, my personal choice would be/is shingles.
That is a subjective opinion sir.
A windstorm will rip shingles clean off the roof metal is interlocked at the seems and screwed down which is way stronger
Does anyone know if it has been attempted to put metal panels directly on top over existing shingles? engineering wise I would expect it to be fine, but likely bureaucracy prevents it from being done ?
Traps heat melts tar then drips
What is price per square for each?
Around $620 per square. A square=100 sq foot.
Isn’t asphalt melted and reused all the time? Not recyclable, what? I’m confused.
What about a lightening strike with a metal roof? What happens during a really bad electrical storm?
Hey, Joey! We have a whitepaper from the MCA on our website that will answer your question: bit.ly/metal-roofing-and-lightning
Thanks for your comment! -Thad
What about noise?
Hello, check out this article for some information on noise:
bit.ly/metal-roofing-myths
Thanks! -Thad
It is really noisy when it hails, we install foamboard to help with sound for those that ask,elderly.
What about Hail? When it hits the metal roof, will it leave dings?
Here's a video that covers hail, roof damage, and insurance: bit.ly/hail-damage-and-insurance-video Hope this helps! -Thad
What about noise? I live in an area that gets very heavy rain for long periods at a time. I haven’t designed my new house yet so I might have an upstairs that the roof doubles as some of the walls. Is rain beating on a metal roof louder then asphalt?
Hello! There most likely shouldn't be more noticeable noise, but it will depend largely on what type of deck assembly you will be designing into your house. If you want to discuss specifics, feel free to call Jeff, the Sheffield Metals technical director, here: 904.451.5989 Thanks for the question! -Thad
Apply ceramic coating if your.roof.is.slanted the.water.will beed.up.and.roll.rihlght off.with.a.fractiom.of.the noise. (It's like.RAIN-X)
Don't know but mom had a metal roof put on her home, that's was her first complaint was the noise when it rained !
I have a buddy who has been a roofer for a long time and does standing seam as well as tray roofing with a metal base that is covered with asphalt and rock at times to extend the life. I have been thinking about having our roof replaced with a metal roof as it's losing much of the tiny granular material and it's three layers, so it needs complete tear off. I am wondering from time I'd spent at my great grandma's as it was a corregated hot dipped galvanized roof and in bad storms you could hear the impact of rain and hail. Does this play in as a factor in metal roof systems?
Hey Shawn! Check out our Metal Roofing Myths blog article; we reference rain/weather sounds. Myth #2 should answer your question: bit.ly/metal-roofing-myths
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
the paper under the roof will not last 50years for metal roof, i would go with the cheaper one.
@@dangda-ww7de what paper?
roofing tar paper, in case water got pass the metal roof the paper will stop it and divert the water down.@@billwilliams9897
@@dangda-ww7de Tar paper is for hot tar roof, and goes under asphalt shingles , not metal roof. Never should need tar paper at all on a metal roof. But even if you do use it then it would be fine even after 50 years. Because no water or sunshine will ever see it. The tar paper will still look like new after 50 years.
How much is the square foot cost between metal and asphalt?
Hello! There are a ton of factors that go into cost, but we discuss some median prices on this metal vs. shingle blog article: bit.ly/metal-roofing-vs-shingle-roofing
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
I didn't know that metal roofing is lighter. Thanks!
They also don't catch fire.
@@billwilliams9897 Thanks Bill. I'm new to the industry, so I'm learning as much as possible. How long have you been a roofer?
@@billwilliams9897 asphalt roofing is actually extremely fire resistant. The wood around the house will burn down long before the shingles will.
@@Luckingsworth Obviously you never threw any in a fire, They burn hot like tires.
@@billwilliams9897 how hot it can burn has no bearing in how easily it burns. The wood your house is most likely made from will catch fire and burn to the ground long before asphalt shingles ever will. It's really a non issue when it comes to issues with house fires. Both internal ones as well as external ones.
how good is the paint ??? i have had some paint on metal zip-lock look bad in 6 yrs.
My paint has a 30 year warranty on my metal.
like i said i have had warranted paint go bad, then you need to try and collect on the warrantee ,not easy. dorko@@billwilliams9897
@@organicdudranch A high quality PVDF paint system will last a long time on your roof system. If you want to learn more you can check out these videos about metal roofing paint here: bit.ly/pvdf-vs-smp-video bit.ly/chalking-and-fading-video
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
@@organicdudranch That's true, but still better than shingles.
Metal vs shingle cost?
With the latest, June 2021, comp $ increase metal has become a viable option..
Why, in your comparison, didn't you consider slate shingles? My parents slate shingle roof in a hardy four season environment has required very little maintenance over 70 years with the only problem being a few shingles delaminating or the steel nails holding them in place rusting away. Their home was built in 1947 when they didn't have corrosion free nails and still they've had very few failures over 70 years and it's still wonderful. I know the one big consideration is the much higher initial cost of slate shingles and their proper installation but averaged over their now 70 year old roof, their slate shingles have been relatively very much cheaper and also slate is extraordinarily very aestheticly pleasing.
Hello, thanks for the question and great story about your parents' roof! We are going to be releasing some more comparison videos early next year, and I can add slate shingles to the list of possibilities. Have a good one! -Thad
Who do you recommend as Metal Roof contractors in Florida?
Drop a line to us at this link and we'll get you set up: bit.ly/contact-sheffield -Thad
great video :-) in your list you forgot 2 important point. 1st ease of cleaning (removing snow for those who have to (metal roofing is very slippery)) and 2nd, noise (very noisy when it rains)
Of course I don't think you're trying, but it's still obvious what side you'd be on just reading the bottom of your checklist pad. I'm interested in a metal roof, but I'm going to have to get a local estimate.
Metal roofing is so much better of an option if you install photovoltaic panels, you will know sooner when you have a short from the panels to the roofing.
Living in Florida, I've seen plenty of metal roofs. The only ones that seem to remain good looking over time are the silver color, unpainted type. Every colored roof I've seen fade horribly over time.
Cons. Of metal. 1 hard to use in an arch. 2 if a piece gets damaged in the middle to replace a single damaged piece is difficult. 3 if you add an addition to the building the chances are colors don’t match. 4 if you get large hail it can make the roof really ugly and the insurance usually won’t cover replacing it just based on appearance. 5 exposed screw type has rubber washers that will rot over time 10 yrs and should be replaced. 6 can’t just go to big box store to get any standing seam. Must rely on local installer with special equipment to make.
Thanks for sharing! Here is a video we did about common problems with metal that include a few more potential issues as well: bit.ly/metal-roof-problems-video -Thad
How about the noise when it rains??
Check out this video: bit.ly/metal-roof-myths-video Myth #2 is what you're looking for. Thanks! -Thad
How do you keep the metal roof clean and keep it from fading
Hello! We have a video in the works for metal roof maintenance/cleaning, but in the meantime you can check out this blog article covering the topic: bit.ly/how-to-clean-metal-roofing
Metal roofing will fade over time, and the quality of the paint system you choose has a huge impact on how long it will take for your roof to noticeably fade. This Q&A episode will explain more in detail: bit.ly/chalking-and-fading-video
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
Can I walk along a metal roof when cleaning the gutters?
If you do it carefully , you step where it is strongest, where one 'shingle ' meets another . If you step in centre your weight will press down and leave a possible dent.
What is not known is insurance companies deduct a certain amount once a shingle roof reaches 80% of the manufacturer speciations on life of shingles....had a customer that had 20year shingles. He treat his roof better than his first born. He got 28 years and the insurance company deducted 270.00 from every year after 20
What about R-Factor?
You are forgetting that the metal roofs are also practically fireproof. It a house, or a tree is burning in proximity there is a big chance that the wind will land some burning debris on your roof.
Contact Dr.Anii on TH-cam he cured mine.
Emil! while the metal conducts electricity the resistance to lightening creates heat sufficiently to start fires in the wood underneath; also, metal gets real hot in the summer and if there is tar holding the sand just as with asphalt the sand will wash down into the
gutters and clog drains in time.
You don't need to shovel the snow off your roof anymore with a metal one. It all just slides off. (Don't get caught under it when it lets go though😉)
I'm considering a metal roof because the recent California fires.
Thanks for sharing! If you want to learn more about metal roofs and fire, check out this video on fire rated products vs. fire rated assemblies: bit.ly/fire-rated-assembly-vs-product-video
-Thad
comp shingles are easy to repair. from a tree hitting it. other woops.. just doing roof demand a bundle left over correct color for repairs..they never refuse..roofs are in batches new bundles wont match// after 12 homes one learns kiss... repairableity is a must..
We just got our metal roof, house is so much cooler, electricity bill is way lower, win win, well worth it
Nice! Thanks for sharing! -Thad
How do I find a good metal roof installer? I live in the LA area. Thanks for your videos- very helpful.
did you find one? i found one that is in LA...but i live in SD and he doesnt service SD. difficult search down here
Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!
do you like the metal tho?
Thank you for this. We are just starting the roofing replacement "experience" (some have called it a portal to hell) and this is a good start. If you or anyone has a link as to what to keep aware of in this process including legal, that would be appreciated. Again thanks.
Check out this eBook that details how to prepare for the entire installation process from start to finish: bit.ly/installation-success-ebook - Thad
Given the name of this channel, I did not expect asphalt to win. I agree though and don’t like asphalt anymore.
Most insurances do not cover a hail dented metal roof because the integrity of the roof is still good. Just looks like hell.
get a thicker gauge metal panel. youl actually get a discount on your insurance.
Hey Grant, thanks for the comment. We just came out with a video to address hail damage and insurance coverage. Check it out here: bit.ly/metal-roofing-and-hail Thanks! -Thad
I'm in Florida and when I buy my first house I will be replacing the roof with a metal one. I am happy to know there are a variety of colors for metal roofs. Thanks for the info!
#1 Question .. "How much longer am I going to be alive to care?" We actually are considering a stamped shingle shaped metal roof. I'll probably be alive 25 more years and either roof will probably outlive me so who cares?!
Some of us pay off a property to then hand down to children, and their children.
In families where legacy is important, the house must last more than one lifetime.
@@shanepossible3766 .. Never had a mortgage or auto loan, semi-retired to Florida since I was 38. That said, short of living in some hayseed boondocks e.g. farming or some massive multi-million estate, most everyone prefers newer homes. In Florida a 20 year old home is a full blown reno job. Most neighborhoods, and I'm talking $1M plus deteriorate over time. Even in a few ultra elite neighborhoods most people prefer to bulldoze and rebuild.
@@DJaquithFL That could be more for the lack of craftsmanship and good materials used. Any well built home using good materials last 100 years or more if decently maintained. Noe Florida may be some exception, but most of the nation is filled with older homes and where people stay longer. I put a metal roof on because I plan on staying in my home for decades and a metal roof will last that long. A metal roof will also be cheaper that to put 2-3 more asphalt roofs on in the same time period.
@@alumniduck .. In Florida its the combo of salt air, high humidity, monsoon summer rainy season and direct hot sun. The sun will strip the paint off your brand new car in 2-3 years .. it's really harsh. After this, I'd had to sue the HOA and PUD to allow a metal roof. Here it's all tile that's allowed. You get algae on your roof and it requires every other year (if that) power washing with a chlorine (aka bleach). The tile isn't even the actual roof .. there's a sub-roof.
@@DJaquithFL you need to buy better cars, we have the same sun in California that you have and sand storms typically are the problem. Also I have not seen paint failures from UV light since the 80's when GM and Toyota blue paints were problematic.
I have installed both. Metal is fat superior. It will last you a lifetime.
If it was me tho... I'd do shingle for the cost factor... and rather pay another smaller price 18 yrs down the line
However as a roofer. I'd love to install a standing seem over a shingle. I'd make way more money.
I'm more of a torch on flat roof guy myself. I still believe a metal roof is the only roof that can last 100+ years
I believe the guy in the video was actually downplaying metal roofs. Standing seem will last 75+ years on more averages than the 50 he said...
I live in the burbs and considering metal roof. Metal is the way to go but it will look so different from everyone else😤 also the noise when it rains, I'm not sure how it will be.
theres insulation for the noise but 20k
Hmmm do I wanna spend 7,000 70 Bundle roof an Architectural Roof that will last me 30 years (Lifetime) if done properly with good ventilation or do I wanna spend 17,000 for the exact same project but for a (METAL ROOF) that will last me 50 years. so basically it evens out in the long term. oh yeah METAL ROOF keep in mind of maintenance extra 4Grand Maintenance. so total Metal 21,000$ 50 years Architectural shingles 7,000$ 30 years Both are good choices depending what you wanna spend
ty for not being bias on your presentation, great vid!
OK, obviously metal roof is the best overall. However, even from reading many of the comments. what I am hearing Is metal is better if you
got the money and you are in it for the long term. I live in a mobile home, I don’t plan to even be here 5 years from now, I don’t have or want to sink a lot into this mobile home. I am NOT a roofer but I have some construction knowledge but no roofing experience (so less skill and time for shingles sounds good). I plan on just fixing leaks and doing sections of the roof at a time. So, for my situation shingles are the best option.
Hello! Sounds like you have a good handle of your situation, and I would tend to agree with you here. Sometimes shingles are the right choice depending on your needs. Good luck and thanks for the comment! -Thad
According to your ease of installation. Id go with metal because you can easily install.etal roofing over existing shingles.
The presenter said you should clean the debris off your roof. Enjoy the ride down your metal roof! Metal is slippery if it has moisture, or even dust on it.
Asphalt is safer and easier to repair 8f there's a problem.
after installing metal roof on my barn the sticks and debris from neighboring tree slides right off. I installed the sheet metal and have not needed to go back up since.
Good salesman for metal roofing.
very good channel about metal roofing.
Up next: Ford Vs Huffy...which is better?
Not a word about one of the biggest downsides of metal roofing: interior noise in rainy conditions.
i know, i love to hear the snow land on it
I was wondering why anyone would use shingles on a roof. Maybe sheet metal used to be a lot more expensive 40 years ago? sounds like it's on the same level as a hand powered drill-press.
Thad: I came here for an honest comparison..and that's exactly what I got. But I stayed because you are really handsome with a beautiful voice. Thanks for the info AND eye candy. 😉👍
Glad you liked the video! Thanks very much! -Thad
Thank you for pertinent information.