Thanks for the update! The fuel dilution is disappointing, particularly since I get the sense you drive enough miles at highway speed to give the engine time to warm up completely. I only have about 880 miles on mine yet, but the oil on the dipstick still looked new when I checked it a week ago. I've noticed one rattle coming from the front passenger door but haven't investigated it enough to track it down. One question: How do you get the little Civic in the center of the dash to show up all the time? I only see it when I have adaptive cruise or lane centering on.
Thanks for watching! Honestly, I think Honda has indeed rectified the issue as best as anyone else can with these direct injection engines. I did forget to mention in the video that my commute to work is only 10 minutes. I bought this car in December so a good portion of those 5K miles were in very cold weather. I changed the oil out of precaution but like i mentioned there was no level changes, I remember my old 2.0T Accord would be overfilled a good amount with fuel in oil when I did oil changes. Just wanted everyone to be aware that I really do think not an issue now, but I think us Civic owners should change oil every 5K out of precaution. For the little Civic to appear: you know the cruise control activation button on the right side of your steering wheel in the upper left? Just click that once and the little Civic will always be displayed!
@@PaulsPlace Thanks! I'll definitely keep an eye on the oil as the weather gets colder. I'll have to run my kid down the street to school if it's too cold to walk, so that's something to watch out for. I can't wait until I get a chance to take mine on a road trip and really get some quality time in it.
Turning on cruise control makes the little civic come up like you said, just never turn it off. It stays on when you turn off/on the car, just won't have a set speed but the civic is still on the dashboard
Guys that own this car please change your cvt every 30k miles without missing it. They cvt is reliable but the oil must be changed to keep it running smoothly
I had the Screen Rattle as well. I looked it up and Honda offers a fix by taping a type of pad between the gap and it fixes the issues. I agree the Civic is the best option right now for “Compact” Sedans. The rear space is what’s appreciated. I drive people around often and I’m glad I opted for the Civic Touring. It feels very luxurious while not being so cramped. Rear passengers hardly complain about leg room and most of the time the rear passengers in my car are my younger family members or their friends and I feel very confident in the safety of the car that if something were to happen, that they’d be safe. I’ve never had people taller than 6’1 in my car so I can’t say how TALLER people will feel about the size but for me at 5’6 it feels like the correct size.
I think the hybrid civic will allow you to drive the car much harder while caring less. First, it's more powerful and have a power delivery of an electric car. Then, it replaces CVT with eCVT, more reliability with no rubber banding. Then, it will come with a 2.0 NA engine, no turbo means less problems. Then you won't have to be mindful about fuel economy anymore, hard braking and hard acceleration all you want and the battery + regen brake will have you covered. The hybrid will be heavier though. All in all, I agree the hybrid won't drive better per se, but it allows you to drive harder.
That's crazy, I have a 2020 Honda Civic 1.5 turbo EX hatchback haven't had a single problem with the car. Sill has the original battery and brakes. The original tires lasted over 50,000 miles. The car now has 63,000 miles haven't had a single problem with the car. The only thing I've done is change the transmission fluid once a year I'm a little OCD. I change the engine oil and filter about every 6,500 miles haven't had any oil dilution at all. I've sent a couple oil samples into Blackstone. One came back at 1% the limit is 4%.. But then again I don't do a lot of short trips and I don't let it idle when it's cold for more than a minute. At 3 years I flushed the brake fluid. That's it. No complaints whatsoever. I guess I haven't really noticed any rattling Never crossed my mind. I came from a 2014 Civic and this is light years better!
I have a 23' Civic Touring and have the same rattle issues in the screen area and seat belt adjuster. But the quality is better than the previous generation.
I am an owner of a black 2024 Honda Civic Touring. I have added red and black seat covers that have lumbar support and to add color to the interior since it’s everything is black inside.
Nice review. I have a 24 LX Hatchback that I purchased in January that has the same issue with the seats being pretty uncomfortable. It was really my only concern when test driving the car, but I knew I could just order a seat cushion with lumbar support, which I did as soon as I got it home. The 2.0 liter N/A engine has no oil dilution issues, but I will still change the oil every 5k.
I changed my oil at 1k miles and the oil was dark and dirty asf ! I wished I did it at 500 and once again at 1k. I have a 2024 civic EX. Ill probably only go 3500 miles for oil changes moving forward. Going 10k miles sounds crazy to me. I plan on keeping my car.
Currently driving a 10th gen 1.5T with 140k and no issues. Oil changes at 15-20% on the MM. Looking at the 11.5 gen, my biggest gripe is that they've dropped the EX/EX-L so you're now stuck with 18" wheels unless you go with the base LX 16" wheel with plastic hub caps. I felt like the 17" wheel on the EX trims were the perfect balance between the two, but now that's no longer an option.
@@2ZH Definitely a good fit for the SI, but for the run-of-the mill Civic, I'd rather have something with a little more sidewall. If anything it cheapens the look of the SI a little having the same rims as the Sport which is the volume leader.
Man I’ve been waiting for this review!! Truly appreciate your content. From how you speak I can tell you enjoy making these videos and I genuinely look forward to your insight. Wishing you success with your channel. Luckily I waited out from pulling the trigger and getting a touring civic to see what the hybrid was going to look like/do. Now that I have seen it, I think I may opt for that one over the regular touring as it seems it’s just the same just wayyyy better mileage and some pretty nice color ways which that urban grey pearl I believe it’s called looks phenomenal, especially if it’s with the black alloy wheels. I hope they have dealt with the rattling in those models that are coming out and heard the complaints of drivers with the fully gas models.
What's the problem? My family has three Honda Civics. My Dad's 2017 Honda Civic EX-T sedan with the CVT (L15B7), my brother's 2018 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport with a CVT (L15BA) and my 2023 Honda Civic Si sedan (L15CA). The L15B7 and the L15BA both have oil dilution. While my L15CA, as of right now, has no oil dilution. All of our civics are running strong with no issues. In regards about any rattling noises in our vehicles. ALL vehicles, no matter what year, brand and model, will rattle. It's just a matter of when will the vehicle rattle. That's part of life when you have a vehicle.
I have a 24’ Accord sport hybrid and my screen has been rattling as well. It might be a common issue with Honda’s larger infotainment screens because I haven’t heard anyone with the 7-inch screen complain about that
I guess I’m the outlier in all of this. I have a ‘22 Civic Sport Touring and the infotainment has yet to rattle or given any major problems, other than freezing twice when loading but that’s just about it.
I know you mentioned you paid 29k for the car, but what was your out the door price if you don’t mind me asking? I’m looking at a civic hatch in the sport touring and want to see if the numbers make sense haha
I actually went from the Accord to a Ram 1500. Then went to a Civic. I do like the Civic better than the Accord though. Better NVH, fuel economy, handling, etc.
Can I take my Honda Civic into the dealership every 5k miles to change the oil and rotate the tires under the 2 yr maintenance program or do I have to wait until the wrench 🔧 icon comes up? My oil level didn’t get below 20% until I reached 7k miles and I thought that was a little bit longer than I wanted to take it.
You can take it in whenever you want, but Honda will only cover when the wrench turns on. So I had my oil changed at 5000 miles, but I didn’t have them reset the maintenance minder so the wrench will come on later and I can get my free one at 10,000 or so.
I have mixed feelings, I have had both 10th and 11th gen civic si and i felt like the 10th had a lot more features and was cheaper. the Bose is lack luster, and for my preferences the 11th gen feels very long for a "compact" car
After about 3 min, I determined the Civic Touring wasn't for me. Pavement wheel rash, fuel dilution and poor seats are not acceptable in today's age in my area or with my type of driving. While I really like the look, the Honda doesn't fit the bill. GLWYC. :)
Hey Paul. Another nice video. I had a 2004 Civic…it rattled after 5000 miles. I traded it for a 2005 Accord…it rattled after 8000 miles. Traded it for a 2006 Acura TL…48,000 miles, no rattles. Honda puts more money into their luxury division than their economy division, unfortunately. Meanwhile my 2019 Kia Optima EX that I put 134,000 miles on before trading it had absolutely NO rattles. Apparently Hyundai/Kia group builds tighter interiors than Honda. Enjoy your car, otherwise.
Thanks for the update! The fuel dilution is disappointing, particularly since I get the sense you drive enough miles at highway speed to give the engine time to warm up completely. I only have about 880 miles on mine yet, but the oil on the dipstick still looked new when I checked it a week ago. I've noticed one rattle coming from the front passenger door but haven't investigated it enough to track it down. One question: How do you get the little Civic in the center of the dash to show up all the time? I only see it when I have adaptive cruise or lane centering on.
Thanks for watching! Honestly, I think Honda has indeed rectified the issue as best as anyone else can with these direct injection engines. I did forget to mention in the video that my commute to work is only 10 minutes. I bought this car in December so a good portion of those 5K miles were in very cold weather. I changed the oil out of precaution but like i mentioned there was no level changes, I remember my old 2.0T Accord would be overfilled a good amount with fuel in oil when I did oil changes. Just wanted everyone to be aware that I really do think not an issue now, but I think us Civic owners should change oil every 5K out of precaution.
For the little Civic to appear: you know the cruise control activation button on the right side of your steering wheel in the upper left? Just click that once and the little Civic will always be displayed!
@@PaulsPlace Thanks! I'll definitely keep an eye on the oil as the weather gets colder. I'll have to run my kid down the street to school if it's too cold to walk, so that's something to watch out for. I can't wait until I get a chance to take mine on a road trip and really get some quality time in it.
For the rattle on the passenger side for me i believe its the handle, got the ole lady to just touch it while driving to see if it was it lol
Turning on cruise control makes the little civic come up like you said, just never turn it off. It stays on when you turn off/on the car, just won't have a set speed but the civic is still on the dashboard
Guys that own this car please change your cvt every 30k miles without missing it. They cvt is reliable but the oil must be changed to keep it running smoothly
i’m planning to do mine every 15-20k since i drive like 5-6 maybe 7k a year
I had the Screen Rattle as well. I looked it up and Honda offers a fix by taping a type of pad between the gap and it fixes the issues.
I agree the Civic is the best option right now for “Compact” Sedans.
The rear space is what’s appreciated. I drive people around often and I’m glad I opted for the Civic Touring. It feels very luxurious while not being so cramped.
Rear passengers hardly complain about leg room and most of the time the rear passengers in my car are my younger family members or their friends and I feel very confident in the safety of the car that if something were to happen, that they’d be safe.
I’ve never had people taller than 6’1 in my car so I can’t say how TALLER people will feel about the size but for me at 5’6 it feels like the correct size.
I think the hybrid civic will allow you to drive the car much harder while caring less. First, it's more powerful and have a power delivery of an electric car. Then, it replaces CVT with eCVT, more reliability with no rubber banding. Then, it will come with a 2.0 NA engine, no turbo means less problems. Then you won't have to be mindful about fuel economy anymore, hard braking and hard acceleration all you want and the battery + regen brake will have you covered. The hybrid will be heavier though.
All in all, I agree the hybrid won't drive better per se, but it allows you to drive harder.
That's crazy, I have a 2020 Honda Civic 1.5 turbo EX hatchback haven't had a single problem with the car. Sill has the original battery and brakes. The original tires lasted over 50,000 miles. The car now has 63,000 miles haven't had a single problem with the car. The only thing I've done is change the transmission fluid once a year I'm a little OCD. I change the engine oil and filter about every 6,500 miles haven't had any oil dilution at all. I've sent a couple oil samples into Blackstone. One came back at 1% the limit is 4%.. But then again I don't do a lot of short trips and I don't let it idle when it's cold for more than a minute. At 3 years I flushed the brake fluid. That's it. No complaints whatsoever. I guess I haven't really noticed any rattling Never crossed my mind. I came from a 2014 Civic and this is light years better!
I have a 23' Civic Touring and have the same rattle issues in the screen area and seat belt adjuster. But the quality is better than the previous generation.
Exact same car, 23 civic touring. I guess im lucky, no rattling or oil dilution issues so far and im 10, 500 miles now.
I am an owner of a black 2024 Honda Civic Touring. I have added red and black seat covers that have lumbar support and to add color to the interior since it’s everything is black inside.
Nice review. I have a 24 LX Hatchback that I purchased in January that has the same issue with the seats being pretty uncomfortable. It was really my only concern when test driving the car, but I knew I could just order a seat cushion with lumbar support, which I did as soon as I got it home. The 2.0 liter N/A engine has no oil dilution issues, but I will still change the oil every 5k.
I changed my oil at 1k miles and the oil was dark and dirty asf ! I wished I did it at 500 and once again at 1k. I have a 2024 civic EX. Ill probably only go 3500 miles for oil changes moving forward. Going 10k miles sounds crazy to me. I plan on keeping my car.
Currently driving a 10th gen 1.5T with 140k and no issues. Oil changes at 15-20% on the MM. Looking at the 11.5 gen, my biggest gripe is that they've dropped the EX/EX-L so you're now stuck with 18" wheels unless you go with the base LX 16" wheel with plastic hub caps. I felt like the 17" wheel on the EX trims were the perfect balance between the two, but now that's no longer an option.
I've had both a 10th and 11th gen civic si, and I feel like the 18s are great, they help the car look good and handles really well
@@2ZH Definitely a good fit for the SI, but for the run-of-the mill Civic, I'd rather have something with a little more sidewall. If anything it cheapens the look of the SI a little having the same rims as the Sport which is the volume leader.
Man I’ve been waiting for this review!! Truly appreciate your content. From how you speak I can tell you enjoy making these videos and I genuinely look forward to your insight. Wishing you success with your channel.
Luckily I waited out from pulling the trigger and getting a touring civic to see what the hybrid was going to look like/do.
Now that I have seen it, I think I may opt for that one over the regular touring as it seems it’s just the same just wayyyy better mileage and some pretty nice color ways which that urban grey pearl I believe it’s called looks phenomenal, especially if it’s with the black alloy wheels.
I hope they have dealt with the rattling in those models that are coming out and heard the complaints of drivers with the fully gas models.
Thanks!! I appreciate it. Yeah, I think I’d wait for the hybrid too, unless they had a crazy deal on an existing touring.
can you tell me what type of tint that you got? Was it ceramic or carbon? Also what percent tint is it?
I’ll never buy a Honda with the 1.5t. Too many issues. Either the civic hybrid or the low trims with the 2.0
What's the problem?
My family has three Honda Civics. My Dad's 2017 Honda Civic EX-T sedan with the CVT (L15B7), my brother's 2018 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport with a CVT (L15BA) and my 2023 Honda Civic Si sedan (L15CA). The L15B7 and the L15BA both have oil dilution. While my L15CA, as of right now, has no oil dilution. All of our civics are running strong with no issues.
In regards about any rattling noises in our vehicles. ALL vehicles, no matter what year, brand and model, will rattle. It's just a matter of when will the vehicle rattle. That's part of life when you have a vehicle.
I have a 24’ Accord sport hybrid and my screen has been rattling as well. It might be a common issue with Honda’s larger infotainment screens because I haven’t heard anyone with the 7-inch screen complain about that
Keep up the 5,000 mile oil changes! According to motor oil geek the first break-in oil change should have been at 500 miles.
I guess I’m the outlier in all of this. I have a ‘22 Civic Sport Touring and the infotainment has yet to rattle or given any major problems, other than freezing twice when loading but that’s just about it.
I wonder if they’ve managed to rectify the screen rattle on the 2025 Civics
Given your comment about perforated seats, you might be making a case to choose the lower trim level with the cloth seats, yes?
Yes, but you would be giving up a lot of other features, unfortunately.
How did you get rid of the rattling sound. I am facing the same situation , it's very much annoying
I know you mentioned you paid 29k for the car, but what was your out the door price if you don’t mind me asking? I’m looking at a civic hatch in the sport touring and want to see if the numbers make sense haha
Hi Paul. Why did you change your 2.0T accord to the Civic?
I actually went from the Accord to a Ram 1500. Then went to a Civic.
I do like the Civic better than the Accord though. Better NVH, fuel economy, handling, etc.
Can I take my Honda Civic into the dealership every 5k miles to change the oil and rotate the tires under the 2 yr maintenance program or do I have to wait until the wrench 🔧 icon comes up? My oil level didn’t get below 20% until I reached 7k miles and I thought that was a little bit longer than I wanted to take it.
You can take it in whenever you want, but Honda will only cover when the wrench turns on. So I had my oil changed at 5000 miles, but I didn’t have them reset the maintenance minder so the wrench will come on later and I can get my free one at 10,000 or so.
“No car is perfect” 11:10
I got a 2023 Corolla cross and it started rattling almost from the start.
I considered that before the Civic actually! How do you like it besides the rattling?
Does your CVT jerk when you are slowing down to 15-25mph and then get back on the gas?
Yep! Just a little bit. My Accord and Elantra with regular transmissions did that too.
@@PaulsPlaceGood to know I have a 2024 civic sport hatch with the 2.0 and was wondering if it was an issue or normal. Thanks 👍
I have mixed feelings, I have had both 10th and 11th gen civic si and i felt like the 10th had a lot more features and was cheaper. the Bose is lack luster, and for my preferences the 11th gen feels very long for a "compact" car
I've been thinking of getting the sedan. How's the wind noise with the sunroof open at freeway speeds?
It’s not too bad! The wind deflector does a decent job.
I have been watching a lot of Civic reviews. I might replace my BMW i4 with Civic Hatch Hybrid. How’s the NVH for you?
It's present hahaha, not the smoothest. It's not awful though.
Can you put 17 inch tires on this to give it a little more cushion and help with potholes?
That’s the plan!
@@PaulsPlaceI swapped the 18" wheels and tires on my 2024 Civic Sport for 16". Rides better. And quieter.
I wonder if the oil dilutions is a non issue with hybrid later
I'm willing to bet this is true. My understanding is it's a turbo engine issue, and the hybrid uses the non turbo engine
After about 3 min, I determined the Civic Touring wasn't for me. Pavement wheel rash, fuel dilution and poor seats are not acceptable in today's age in my area or with my type of driving. While I really like the look, the Honda doesn't fit the bill. GLWYC. :)
test drive an hrv, its a non turbo version of the civic in suv formation
@@slumy8195 While I like the appearance of the HRV,, a small engine and CVT leaves me empty regarding any type of response.
Hey man I have 2021 Honda accord se since new my driver side dashboard rattles on ruff roads it’s Honda thing lol
I’ve got a 2022 Accord and my driver side door panel rattles on rough roads lol so yeah definitely a Honda thing
My passport does this too. Also something on the passenger side maybe that door panel too
Why did u get rid of the 2.0 accord
Wanted a truck.
Hey Paul. Another nice video. I had a 2004 Civic…it rattled after 5000 miles. I traded it for a 2005 Accord…it rattled after 8000 miles. Traded it for a 2006 Acura TL…48,000 miles, no rattles. Honda puts more money into their luxury division than their economy division, unfortunately. Meanwhile my 2019 Kia Optima EX that I put 134,000 miles on before trading it had absolutely NO rattles. Apparently Hyundai/Kia group builds tighter interiors than Honda. Enjoy your car, otherwise.
That does make sense, I could see that. Thanks!! Appreciate your continued support!
Try using two-sided tape on rattles. 🤔
That's what I'm thinking, that or some felt jammed in the cracks.
Nothing Beats The 10th Gen , I’m keeping it very honest All New Civics / Accords r now 💩