Dwarves: The Costumes of Middle Earth

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  • @HS-su3cf
    @HS-su3cf ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Thorin's eye-brows were given to Thranduil.

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Incredible observation

    • @charlottao9472
      @charlottao9472 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      😂

    • @k49821
      @k49821 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      💀

    • @ParameterGrenze
      @ParameterGrenze 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Poor Thorin had to sell them.

    • @allthings2allmen
      @allthings2allmen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ParameterGrenze Eyebrow poker?...raise me an eyebrow...no not raze!!!

  • @harrisonbloom816
    @harrisonbloom816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Who at the studio really thought the fans would say “I wasn’t gonna see that Hobbit movie, but now that I know three of the dwarves are hot-!!!”

    • @isabelnoyer5893
      @isabelnoyer5893 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      To be completely frank, I only watch The Hobbit's trilogy to thirst over Thorin. Not proud of this, but there you go... 😅

    • @harrisonbloom816
      @harrisonbloom816 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@isabelnoyer5893 i stand corrected then!

    • @TheVanne2108
      @TheVanne2108 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@isabelnoyer5893 My best friend and I still watch the movies at least twice a year to thirst (also because of many other aspects, but let's be honest, who doesn't like to look at pretty people)

    • @poki580
      @poki580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      women obviously

    • @alang.bandala8863
      @alang.bandala8863 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jeffry Epstein

  • @sbskinner369
    @sbskinner369 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    One of my absolute favorite details of Gimli's costume is the flower design at the crest of his helmet. It definitely makes me think that the costume designers were taking inspiration from the relationship between Gimli and Galadriel. I have no proof of this, but it's my head cannon 😅

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Oh I hadn't noticed that, great catch! And who knows, maybe it was a connection to Galadriel. That would be super neat

  • @lyndonmarquis414
    @lyndonmarquis414 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    It’s just odd that they took a race renowned for its smithing prowess and said to themselves “Shall we give them cool armour? Nah, let’s go leather and furs…”

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Tbf, the book doesn't really specify armour, and comes off as depicting the dwarves more like the Snow White variety
      It's only with LoTR/Silmarilion that Dwarves are really given their Tolkien lore

    • @darimamitypova6964
      @darimamitypova6964 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well, dwalves exiled from their mountain were homeless, poor and lost. Thorin, the next king, had to do heavy labour to survive.

    • @SereglothIV
      @SereglothIV ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@johngreen9825Yes, if I remember correctly, they made them equip all the heavy armor while sitting inside Erebor, then charge out into battle without it.

    • @neodigremo
      @neodigremo ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@SereglothIV They are all (Thorin aside) wearing pretty hefty armour and weapons in the battle of 5 armies. Much more than they were before. So for me the poor scraps they relatively speaking had makes sense.

    • @ParameterGrenze
      @ParameterGrenze 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean… in the beginning of the story they were dressed for travelling through Woods and mountains over days and weeks not for battle.

  • @Doombringer55
    @Doombringer55 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "With a bit of elbow grease"
    "Best I can do is talcum sweat"

  • @stevenkobb156
    @stevenkobb156 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It just looks to me like Dwarves start out like attractive humans when young, then gradually grow into cartoon characters as they age. Just weird.

    • @haleywilson520
      @haleywilson520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, like. Where tf did Kili come from?

    • @ringofbrass
      @ringofbrass 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      oh that's actually an interesting concept! older people in reality can often become more pronounced and almost comical as they age and their noses get like they do. so this might just be pretty valid.
      I know this is an older comment to reply to just wanted to say your comment got me thinking and made me smile!

  • @j.s.c.4355
    @j.s.c.4355 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Dwarven runes look like Futhark, which is ancient Germanic/Skandinavian/ Anglo Saxon runes. These runes were angular because they were meant to be carved into trees with a knife. I think dwarves has much the same constraints. Their runes has to be written with chisels in stone-so straight lines and simple angles.

  • @Andystuff800
    @Andystuff800 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    John Rhys-Davies was not allergic to the prosthetics, though that’s a lot easier to explain so I understand why they went with that. He explained in an interview (which I linked in a.comment on another one of your videos) what actually happened: the glue they used for the prosthetics rips a thin layer of skin off when it’s removed. That’s fine for occasional use, but after doing this for several days in a row, he had no skin around the eyes and therefore they had nothing to attach his prosthetics to. It was so bad hegot extremely self conscious and therefore barely socialised with the rest of the cast. Despite this he thinks it was worth it for the film and does not regret it.

    • @TrekBeatTK
      @TrekBeatTK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not as bad as Tucker Smallwood who had such a bad reaction to eye makeup on Enterprise that he required corrective surgery.

    • @Northfan42
      @Northfan42 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah. Any talk of inflammation, skin weeping or other irritations is passed off as allergy, rather than the inevitable cumulative result of using the harsh adhesive on the face across many consecutive months. I'm fairly certain some of the long-serving background and stunt performers for dwarves, orcs etc. had similar issues, although perhaps to a lesser extent.

    • @barukkazhad8998
      @barukkazhad8998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dwarves always suffer

  • @thomasesau2376
    @thomasesau2376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The symbol for "Bluetooth" is the runic symbol for Harald Bluetooth the medieval king of Scandinavia. I like that.

  • @CloudslnMyCoffee
    @CloudslnMyCoffee ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I've watched all three movies multiple times. How did I miss that one of the dwarves had an AXE in his head?!

    • @ScottHess
      @ScottHess ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I know! I was like ... what is she even talking about? Indeed, a search shows images, and TH-cam has the scene where he loses the axe, and tons of comments question if he had it there the entire time.

    • @timmiller1
      @timmiller1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I watched the first hobbit movie at least twice in the theater. I have no recollection of an axe in a head.

    • @Andystuff800
      @Andystuff800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They gloss over it in the theatrical editions but point it out in the extended cut.

    • @fermintenava5911
      @fermintenava5911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Survival instinct?

    • @ashildrtheswift3028
      @ashildrtheswift3028 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I learned that because of fanfiction!

  • @carsonnesbit1178
    @carsonnesbit1178 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Honestly my only problem with most of the costume design, was that most of the dwarves had really really small beards.
    So many of the dwarves look like beardlings who were just born yesterday and it makes me sad.

  • @jamesvalle9079
    @jamesvalle9079 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Little ways to tell the Dwarves apart in the books: Dwalin's blue beard, Fili has a longer nose than his brother, Bomber is fat! Ori wears grey, Oin wears brown, Gloin wears white, etc., Thorin has a silver tassel attached to his hood, and a gold chain necklace. There's a bunch of little ways in the books to tell the Dwarves apart. It would have been nice to see some of these things carry over into the movies.
    P.S. In the book, Gloin puts to word his doubts about Bilbo and Gandalf basically tells him to do as he says or "go back to mining coal," which basically tells us that Gloin was a coal miner. I don't see why they couldn't build his costume around that.

  • @theoives-leduc3782
    @theoives-leduc3782 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    There was definitely time for 13 dwarves in those 3 massive movies, they just gave that time to Bard, Legolas, Thranduil, Azog, Tauriel, Bolg, Radagast, Brads family, the white council, Sauron and fucking Alfrid. All of which are either not in the book or not big characters in the book and thus didn't need all the fucking screen time. If you think about the amount of characters they manged to flesh out in the LOTR movies then it shouldn't be too much of a leap to get 13 dwarves down.

    • @allthings2allmen
      @allthings2allmen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ...that's what Bilbo Baggins hates!

    • @yllejord
      @yllejord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't bunch together Bard and fucking Alfrid, come on.

    • @rennythespaceguy7285
      @rennythespaceguy7285 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think Thranduil and Bard's family were fair expansions even if the execution in the movies wasn't great. The former does have a key role in the book even if it's smaller so expanding him fleshes out the story and Bard's family probably shouldn factor more into how he acts if he's gonna be more prominent than he was.
      The rest are all unforgivable, Gandalf and Legolas's subplots are so fucking dire in those later two movies

  • @j.s.c.4355
    @j.s.c.4355 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Bombur is also one of the most fleshed out dwarves in the book.

    • @vexaris1890
      @vexaris1890 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      fleshed out. Hehe

    • @FennecTheRabbit
      @FennecTheRabbit ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love Bombur so damn much

    • @benkenobi_
      @benkenobi_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@FennecTheRabbitalways a Bombur fan

  • @TheLyricalCleric
    @TheLyricalCleric ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think that with so many dwarves, they should have centralized more around the rhyming names and made each group a representative style. I know they did something like this, but they needed stark color or stylistic choices to make each group of dwarves different. That way, you’d know even if you didn’t know the dwarf that you’d know the character. For instance-Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur are the late, sloppy, gluttonous dwarves. Their dress is all fine but messy, shabby chic because they care more about experience than propriety. Will completely leave a hiding spot for food or other dainties. Dori, Nori, and poor Ori are the bardic lore smiths, so they have instruments like their flutes or a large tome instead of packed gear. They are shy but performative and will favor running away to save their instruments and books than fighting. Each group should have its own vibe, so that they don’t get lost on the screen. I had no idea Dori was even in the films for so little screen time as he got. More differentiation would have been better.

  • @seangates1451
    @seangates1451 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I definitely agree with everything here. One of the problems I immediately had the Hobbit movies was how the dwarves didn’t seem as Dwarven as they should have. Didn’t LOOK as Dwarven as they should have.
    I felt like PJ was trying to do LOTR again, but The Hobbit isn’t that, it shouldn’t be that, and I actually treat the Hobbit movies the same way I do post-Lucas Star Wars: occasionally fun but not canon.

  • @brendanmooney7607
    @brendanmooney7607 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks so much for putting my own feelings about the Hobbit trilogy's dwarves & their character design into actual words! And holy wow what a lovely and completely unexpected appearance of Lakmé's Flower Duet... **shiftyeyes** 😉

  • @mirafeather7844
    @mirafeather7844 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is great timing! I finally watched all the hobbit movies this week. I was a little taken aback at first at the appearance of the dwarves- they just seemed so comical. But I ended up enjoying the movies more than I expected to.
    I love hearing your analysis, as always!

    • @mirafeather7844
      @mirafeather7844 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And yes!! They could have left Kili looking like a dwarf while still keeping him young and hot. Let him have a beard, and some braids, or SOMETHING!

    • @NimbusAngelo
      @NimbusAngelo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mirafeather7844 He reminds me of the way Dopey looks in Disney's Snow White. But yes he could have looked more dwarf-like.

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm so glad you enjoyed the movies! As long as you go into them with a bit of an open mind and an understanding that they won't be up to the caliber of LotR, they can honestly be very enjoyable. Thank you so much for watching!

    • @totallynottrademarked5279
      @totallynottrademarked5279 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jess_of_the_Shire It took me a long time to rewatch after the unforgivable sin of making a love story between an elf and dwarf. Still mad about that but I like the rest more now.

  • @SimpleTricksNonsense
    @SimpleTricksNonsense 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the time we get to Jackson's LOTR and his Hobbit trilogy the dwarf aesthetic had been pretty well established. Several popular properties (D&D and Warhammer for exampe) which took inspiration from Tolkien built upon, borrowed and drove home Dwarf tech, architecture and style.

  • @barukkazhad8998
    @barukkazhad8998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Loved the way the Dwarves were done in the films

  • @jonrolfson1686
    @jonrolfson1686 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The brief scene featuring Billy Connolly, assertively arriving as Dain of the Iron Hills, mounted on a serious looking War Boar, may well have been the best extra-canonical elaboration in the third Hobbit film - still makes me smile.

  • @sethbartley2212
    @sethbartley2212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow...just wow.
    I knew that they put a lot of thought into these kinds of things.
    But i didnt know.
    One thing ive noticed that really emphasizes your points is that in the new 4k edition you can really see a lot of these details. This means the makers did all of this work believing that it would never be seen on camera. Very impressive.

  • @TheCD123
    @TheCD123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The more I think about it, the more I think the Hobbit should have been the TV series. The amount of characters and the episodic nature of the adventure really lends itself to that medium, where certain episodes could give each character a bit of the spotlight. Idk, my thoughts on the hobbit trilogy are complicated and unresolved. Ignore my rambling lol.
    Great video though! I really appreciate when someone can go into such detail about how something as simple as a characters clothing in a book actually has a huge amount of complexity in a visual medium. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    • @ashildrtheswift3028
      @ashildrtheswift3028 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A series would've been so much fun, and would have given them the room needed to explore the characters

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gold lips are the best nod to mining.

  • @Schluviel
    @Schluviel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah Fili and Thorin really made me sad

  • @lauramathews3151
    @lauramathews3151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nori is a type of seaweed and his hair is starfish like...

  • @doom1609
    @doom1609 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The head axe tug of war scene is one of my favorite scenes in The Hobbit trilogy not only for its comedy but because it’s the first time we hear both Bifur and Bomber speak (in English )

  • @r.coburn3344
    @r.coburn3344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also wish bombur’s Tupperware would’ve been excellent, and will be putting it into my dnd material IMMEDIATELY

  • @BecauseOfDragons
    @BecauseOfDragons ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun watch and I liked the breakdown of the culture of the Dwarves and the exploration of their different costumes. I like how much thought went into a lot of their designs but you are right, some of them just don't work or get swallowed up by the fact that they tried to make everyone feel that more important than they needed to be. I still find the movies very charming and I love the relationship shown on screen between Bilbo, Thorin, Balin and Bofur - but, it just doesn't work in the whole which is a real shame because I love The Hobbit. A tale for another video as you say.
    It's fascinating that you mention Thorin's eyebrows as when you look at some of the early posters released for the films, his eyebrows are pretty wild and he looks like a Klingon rather than a Dwarf! I guess that might have played a factor in the changes as well.
    I am a big fan of Dwarves and the stories about them in Middle-earth (and Norse Mythology) so having a video exploring them like this was a lot of fun. Great watch as always.

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I still certainly find the dwarves delightful! Even with their issues, the performances really make them a lot of fun. You can tell a lot of love went into it.
      And apparently they were switching up Thorin's look a ton, including having to reshoot bag-end material because they changed his makeup. So maybe the eyebrows were a reaction to previous attempts...
      Thanks for watching!

  • @thomasmartin4281
    @thomasmartin4281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of those designs were so cool, too bad they didn't use them. Also I almost screamed in the middle of my office hearing "Dwalin milk"

  • @mariyontil
    @mariyontil ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Dwarves are among my favorites. Not only are they unique, but they're also much more down-to-earth and relatable than the Elves and Men, in my opinion, probably because they were only really developed in Bilbo's story. Technically, aren't the Ents probably more unique, however?
    Shouldn't the Dwarves have rather similar armor to the Men of the North? I mean, Thorin once remarks, "Fathers would beg us to take their sons as apprentices, and pay us handsomely, especially in food-supplies, which we never bothered to grow or find for ourselves", and from The Peoples of Middle-Earth, we get the impression their economy relies heavily on trade. As for historical parallels, wouldn't the best ones typically be either Viking or ancient Hebrew armor? Those seem to be Tolkien's two inspirations, anyway.
    I would still argue it would be far more accurate to the book if they had given Bombur Bofur's role, as he is actually more or less the "nice & funny" Dwarf in the book (his conversation with Bilbo in "A Knife in the Dark" is one of my favorite scenes, but fair enough.
    Thank you for the video. I sometimes wonder if it would have been better to cast someone who is actually the height of a Dwarf, as that might help differentiate Gimli from the Hobbits with different proportions and be easier anyway for the filmmakers when Gimli was mostly with Men and Elves.

  • @PaceFilmsProductions
    @PaceFilmsProductions 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I work at Colonial Williamsburg and the wigmakers there have told me that they are still being affected by the worldwide shortage of yak hair caused by The Hobbit trilogy production.

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is what happens when you are trying to direct two films on three hours' sleep. And then the studio orders a third film.

  • @bemasaberwyn55
    @bemasaberwyn55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I unapologetically love the trilogies

  • @noctyd9322
    @noctyd9322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clearly, Thorin had achieved super saiyan 3. Eyebrow mystery solved

  • @Deatheater4444
    @Deatheater4444 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thorin's costume was quite nice, and quite fitting.
    It's a shame Richard Armitage was a few decades too young for the role.

  • @bootstrapbill98
    @bootstrapbill98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to think that Bombur's big braided loop beard was meant to evoque a string of sausages worn round his neck (maybe he has one stashed inside it 👀)

  • @Nick-zp3ub
    @Nick-zp3ub 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked the variation in the costumes especially for bombur, gloin, dwalin and dori. Fili looked like a young dwarf but kili and thorin looked too human

  • @joeyterheide5426
    @joeyterheide5426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while I get people want to see the dwarves in The Hobbit in armour, you gotta remember that the dwarves weren't all that rich at the time. And let's be honest, going on a hike to the other side of the continent that involves climbing mountains and what not probably isn't made any easier by being toe to toe clad in steel

  • @ozzyp97
    @ozzyp97 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the man who directed Ian McKellen as Gandalf come to the conclusion that a beard would impede facial acting? You can practically hear his thoughts every time there's a close up, it's amazing.

  • @matthewhood7844
    @matthewhood7844 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I first saw one of your videos a week ago and have been binge watching them since. Even videos that didn't seem like they would THAT interesting, like this one, have kept me entertaintained throughout. Your amount of research and passion for the subject is enviable. As I a side note, I don't know if you do your own make-up but it is always on point.

  • @markusszelbracikowski956
    @markusszelbracikowski956 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being a 90s kid I have fond memories of Lois and Clark, it would be nice to see that in a NC 😅

  • @StardustWarrior16
    @StardustWarrior16 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's very weird that they thought a beard would get in the way of acting ability when Ian Mckellen wearing a long grey beard is featured in these movies.

  • @matthewarant377
    @matthewarant377 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have ways thought gimli and aragorn have the two best costumes in the trilogy because of one factor, subtlety. When I think of gimli's costume, I think bulky, heavy armor, tank like you say. But if I were to draw his costume from my mind's eye, it would look nothing like the in movie costume. He has that bulky heavy armor look but it's very subtle leaving it to a beautifully crafted helmet and some intricate shoulder guards.
    The same goes for aragorn. The archetype of a ranger. You think aragorn you think, cool, brooding, hood, mysterious, green, ranger. But in actuality his costume is not simple but very subtle and understated. Being a leather duster over layers of torn linen. It's fantastic.
    I think cosplayers greatest mistake is often not being subtle enough and going far to colorful and overstating everything.
    As far as the dwarven costumes for the hobbit, I think there close to horrible. 13 gimli-esque costumes would have been much better. Told apart by color and armor pieces, as well as hair color rather then these crazy hair styles.

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I see where you're coming from, and subtlety is definitely the key, but I think that PJ was probably trying to integrate some of the more "cartoonish" elements of the hobbit. It may have misfired a bit though haha

  • @simonmorris4226
    @simonmorris4226 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tolkien’s life experience of lif coloured it . The dwarves are the miners of Wales, the West Midlands and Cornwall. Short, wide ,kind and as brave and tough as you really wouldn’t want to meet on the field of battle!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @elixtirr2611
    @elixtirr2611 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Hobbit trilogy gets a lot of criticism, and a lot of it isn't unfounded. However, if there is one good thing the trilogy brought us, it was Lee Pace's portryal of Thranduil. I loved how the filmmakers created a solid character from Tolkien's somehwat elusive description of "the Elvenking." Earlier depictions of him, such as in the 1977 animated adaptation, portray Thranduil as a more ghastly, almost beast-like character. To me, that portrayal feels a lot more true to the books in the sense that Thranduil is less of an elf, or character for that matter, and more of a grand, domineering presence. From the perspective of Bilbo, and even the Dwarves, he is wild, mysterious, and more than a little hostile. Despite not being completely "book-accurate," I enjoy Lee Pace's portrayal of the Elvenking. He carries the elegance and quiet grace of the elves in the earlier movies, and yet he is in a league of his own. In truth, when I think of standout depictions of Tolkien's elves, I think of Lee Pace's Thranduil. He has this condescending eeriness about him----a sort of tacit "I stand above you. Get out of my way, mortal, or there shall be consquences." With this combined with his jawdropping looks in the movies, it's pretty clear why he has so many people thirsting after him. That elf took the internet by storm in tumblr's heydey, and I still come across art and fanfiction of him from time to time. Even if the individual dwarves didn't seem to make a significant impact on the fandom or the genre of fantasy at large, I feel like the Thranduil of the Jackson movies will always stand alongside, and perhaps even above, the ethereal Galadriel and regal Elrond when it comes to cultivating a distinct archetype for one of Tolkien's characters. And that in itself is quite an achievement.

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree! Tranquil was certainly a standout! They definitely had to come up with something more in line with Peter Jackson's other works for the character to fit in a world building sense. And his performance and costume are to die for! He's so terrifying in a disconnected, otherworldly way, especially compared to the dwarves.

    • @dementiasorrow
      @dementiasorrow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was with until you said Lee Pece's thraduil could be above Kate Blanchet's Galadriel. I agree he made a stellar performance and the whole production team made him look iconic but Kate Blanchet's performance as Galadriel is nothing short of Perfection. You could say the are equals but above? It is simply not possible to be above Perfection.

  • @Sludgedragon
    @Sludgedragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I always thought that Bombur looked too much like Fat Bastard.

  • @williamswonderland3636
    @williamswonderland3636 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20:39 well a start has 5 points and a hand 5 fingers 5 finger discount is a slang term for theft and he does steal stuff according to your discipion

  • @PhoenixBlade
    @PhoenixBlade ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just can't get over that lipstick. Looks so good.
    Also food containers in bombur's beard would have been so funny

  • @shirleymaemattthews4862
    @shirleymaemattthews4862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:15 Peter Jackson would've saved alot if he used ACTUAL Dwarfs to play the Dwarves in The Hobbit and LOTR, tbh.

  • @orindae1032
    @orindae1032 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Hobbit is the first book I read and still my favorite, the movie is also my favorite even though they added things in I still love it.

  • @michelzwiers7742
    @michelzwiers7742 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:03 it's way funnier actually, Bombur comes running back with the axe head and tries to hand it to Bifur and says "Here you go cousin", which is the only line Bombur has across all three hobbit movies

  • @isabelnoyer5893
    @isabelnoyer5893 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to watch that video with your complete ranking of all of LOTR costumes soooo badly...!!! Please please do give that video a chance - it's a fabulous idea! :)

  • @HolyMith
    @HolyMith 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bombur, Dwalin, Gloin and Balin all looked like actual dwarves. The rest looked like regular guys dressed as dwarves. And that's generous for some (Kili, Thorin, Ori I'm looking at you).

  • @maxb9429
    @maxb9429 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing beats milking the Dwalin at the end of the day

  • @azraelsblade
    @azraelsblade ปีที่แล้ว

    We don’t talk about the barrel scene.

  • @sinthoras1917
    @sinthoras1917 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing about the dwarves' design that I found to be most annoying was that they basically dropped all the descriptions that Tolkien actually did give them, most importantly the damn colors!

    • @Utaeru
      @Utaeru 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really though ? The vast majority of the dwarves in the movies wear clothes with a color scheme identical to the colors of their hoods in the book. Balin has red clothes, Dwalin has green, Dori and Ori have shades of purple, Nori wears grey etc... exceptions are Bifur's rust tones to differenciate him from Bofur's mustard yellow, Fili's browns and Gloin's dark red instead of white

  • @ghoztface8301
    @ghoztface8301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super informative and i completely understand your opinions on the lack of full personality for the dwarven company! Very good video once again :) also your outfit and makeup is beautiful!!!

  • @plpinkham
    @plpinkham ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tolkien really didn't give filmmakers a lot to go on as far as dwarf design. Descriptions are vague, at best.
    However...
    The biggest piece of information we have on dwarves, aside from their stature, is their beards. Their long, flowing beards. Beards they have been growing their entire lives. A good portion of the dwarves in LotR and The Hobbit are of Durin's lineage. The Longbeards they were called. Thorin, Kili, and Fili were definitely Durin's folk. Longbeards. Who don't actually have long beards in the films.
    One of the absolutely key defining features of the race of dwarves, and Jackson just ignored it. It would be like if he decided to make hobbits 6 feet tall.
    "But Peter, they're called 'halflings!'"
    "Yeah, I know. But half of what, hmmm? Didn't think of that, did you?"

    • @Elora445
      @Elora445 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fully agree. I can forgive everything except for the beards. They are called the Longbeards for a damn reason!

  • @zeterzero4356
    @zeterzero4356 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, the barrel scene also brings me exceeding amounts of joy. Great video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @williampalmer8052
    @williampalmer8052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always read it as Oin = Owen and Gloin = Glowen. It just flows more smoothly.

    • @qyark
      @qyark ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the correct pronunciation

  • @lucasistrom
    @lucasistrom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Oin and Gloin since they have the most "classic" feeling designs. This maybe has more to do with their prosthetics and hair than outfits, but they just seem like something you would see in more Tolkien-inspired D&D art. I do also like Thorin's design a lot. Could use more beard but even as it is it is one of my favorites of the bunch.

  • @mousinge
    @mousinge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot express how much I don't care that the original story was supposed to be a light children's story all about Bilbo. No matter who the title character is the story is of a DWARVEN quest with great emotional, even existential significance to them that ends in a goddamn tragedy. The fate of Erebor may not be as directly important as that of the ring, but it's but it plays a key part in the northern realms' security so reclaiming it, and further defending it from, the forces of evil is of just as much geopolitical importance as say, Helm's Deep.
    The fact that book treats every other characters like mere set dressing in it's main character's "fun" adventure, that it breezes through harrowing situations and important world events with so little consideration that even the character that's supposed to matter can just shrug it off at the end so easily that frankly he seems like a sociopath, are not simply acceptable intrinsic traits of the story, they are FLAWS in it.

  • @JonnesTT
    @JonnesTT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will never unsee the missing eyebrows 😟

  • @johnsaporta4633
    @johnsaporta4633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always felt Peter Jackson's Dwarves in the Hobbit movies were very Heavy Metal Rocker. And I did love the Dwarf shield wall assembly during the battle of the five armies: the look, the sound, and their lego brick modularity was a scream. For the sake of civility amd focus on your content, I am withholding obvious criticism on the movies themselves. I did love the dwarves, single note as they were.

  • @myrddinb
    @myrddinb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've just started watching a few of your videos and I just realized this one in the background on your bookshelf. You have a memorial edition of Dune which is my absolutely favored book of all time and I have one too.

  • @TransRoofKorean
    @TransRoofKorean ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmmm, I've got hundreds of different subscriptions, haven't really been watching anything Tolkien-related, but for some reason TH-cam decided to recommend this video. It's always so strange when YT decides to bless people with recommendations... I figured this was gonna be a brand new channel paying to advertise, but nope, you've got quite a lot of videos out. I will definitely have to look around. Very nice.

    • @Jess_of_the_Shire
      @Jess_of_the_Shire  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you found the channel, and I hope you find something here that you enjoy watching!

  • @inakilarrinaga7789
    @inakilarrinaga7789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the idea for the last video on this series. Looking forward to it!!

  • @patron8597
    @patron8597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My biggest complaint is the bears length. Other than Gimli's dad, their beards are way too short, even the ones of the group that have a full beard. Though it's hard to say how much of that was a studio decision.
    What i really love about both LotR and the Hobbit is the influence on dwarven arms and architecture it had on fantasy media. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they were the first that gave dwarves that "block" style, which just fits them so perfectly. While elves had their wavy style before, older depictions of dwarves usually just look like they are using generic western human gear.

  • @timmiller1
    @timmiller1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoa! Did that actor really just sing a B6?!

  • @stinky-2319
    @stinky-2319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the insight. Gotta love dwarves

  • @annegrey6447
    @annegrey6447 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Thorin’s beard was meant to be singed off where was it before Smaug cuz I don’t remember it being any longer. 🤔 Also, does the behind the scenes say why Jackson decided to switch Balín & Thorin’s ages since he was the oldest in the book? At least I think so, but I haven’t read it in so long I could be mistaken.

  • @concernedcitizen6313
    @concernedcitizen6313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I strongly recommend Lindsay Ellis's Hobbit (three-part) Duology video series. It's pretty eye-opening, particularly the third part.

  • @morriganmhor5078
    @morriganmhor5078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Girl, for dwarves you have also the whole Silmarillion and other JRRT books. And as the dwarven culture is from that can be read as highly traditional, there is no need to think it changed too much from the First to the Third Age. Also, as to dwarf stature, thumb up for Gimli in LOTR and down for that vagabonds in The Hobbit.

  • @otaku-sempai2197
    @otaku-sempai2197 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know that Bofur and Bombur are supposed to be brothers, but my understanding is that Bifur is their cousin. However, Peter Jackson could have altered that.

  • @jasonbates2687
    @jasonbates2687 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't find many interesting new channels but this is one of them, subbed.

  • @bhryaen3743
    @bhryaen3743 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very true about the "complications" inevitable from over-investment in dwarven presence. Bilbo's protagonist perspective in the story is a lot like "Rosencranz and Guildenstern's" perspective from that movie. He has his own unique experiences, only reluctantly gets involved in the first place, and is often at odds w events around him or his place in it- enough that everyone's intentionality is treated w skepticism. By over-emphasizing the dwarves it's like telling the "Rosencranz and Guildenstern" story from Hamlet's perspective... which... is just "Hamlet." As much as I like the dwarves and would like a movie where they and their culture are front and center (like a film adaptation of a casteless dwarf from "Dragon Age Origins,") Bilbo's journey and personality are the backbone of "The Hobbit..." making the film adaptation "Brokeback Misty Mountain"? Anyway, yes, it sorely misses the essential narrative due to Jackson's LotR-giddy self-indulgence, not seeing the Fangorn Forest for the trees...

  • @pablofichaje
    @pablofichaje 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see an alternative universe movie trilogy where they stick to that fantasy adventure comedy thing and develop the dwarves more deeply, forgetting about the Lake Town and Tauriel

  • @lauramathews3151
    @lauramathews3151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer the art deco architecture we see in the dwarvish mountain kingdoms, over the art nouveau fashion aspects of the elves. The jewelry and accessories of both are on par in my opinion. But it's frustrating to me that overwhelmingly we see dwarves in armor.....humans, elves and hobbits we see in many facets of life. Although Hobbits had to borrow their armor... Also the scenery/locales of the elven kindoms are beautiful and I love how they are very interconnected with nature by blurring boundaries between inside and outside...

  • @drthmonkey42
    @drthmonkey42 ปีที่แล้ว

    His eyebrows were singed off by Smaug.

  • @robert49783
    @robert49783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for creating the video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.

  • @Zoie3x8
    @Zoie3x8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i donno about anyone else, but Pheeli, Keeli, and Thorin, read as some form or another of 'half-dwarves' to me.

  • @jayvansickle7607
    @jayvansickle7607 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the promo pictures of the dwarves in the Hobbit first came out…I literally thought it was a Klingon image. Specifically, Thorin.

  • @verity231
    @verity231 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once again, a great thoroughly researched video on a topic which I think is rarely talked about, especially in such detail. It doesn't, it the slightest, make me detest the Hobbit trilogy any less, but it's very entertaining 😁 It actually highlights my impression that they pretty much disrespected the whole Dwarven race by turning most of them into gags and did the actors dirty by focusing on the comic aspects even in the visual realm instead of letting them just...you know, act. And bring some unique personality traits into their characters.
    Looking forward to watching the rest of this series!

  • @lukediehl1210
    @lukediehl1210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, I knew John Rhys-Davies was the tallest member of the Fellowship, but he's only 6'1"? I'm taller than that. My worldview has just been shattered by the fact that I would tower over Aragorn...

  • @Elora445
    @Elora445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aidan Turner's hotness caused almost all fics about Kíli being about how he is half elven. Sometimes Fíli too. While an interesting thought, it is far from canon. Don't mind it, buuuuut... They should have let him keep the beard. And oh my god, why have I never thought about Thorin missing his eyebrows???? Just why?
    I fully agree that the royal family should have looked a lot more dwarven. Will never accept why they chose to have them look less dwarven.

  • @austinpren13
    @austinpren13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the very least, Thorin should have had the long beard in flashbacks to note it

  • @paulboswell9026
    @paulboswell9026 ปีที่แล้ว

    Japanese chainmaille is INCREDIBLY flexible. Much more than European. Your information source is incorrect. It was used in the joints to hold armor plates together. There were no hauberks as it offers no protection against clubs.

  • @ChetJang
    @ChetJang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your comments they are very observant and somtimes sarcastic but you say them in such an innocent manner that they are never offensive. I agree with you about the Hobbit how did Peter Jackson milk 3 movies out of the tiny Hobbit novel?

  • @erincollins9761
    @erincollins9761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Costumes of the orcs. I think you could make a great video with this topic.
    P.S. Ori looks great with his flower crown, like he's getting married. I genuinely wish this look had been included in the movies.

  • @Quirderph
    @Quirderph ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a lark, maybe you could review the costumes from the Swedish, Soviet and Finnish LOTR shows?

  • @misturfixit45
    @misturfixit45 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm, I get that we're focusing on Tolkien on this channel, but I think it's unlikely the designers only used Tolkien as their inspiration. Sure, the runes resemble the style they settled on, but Dwarves have been portrayed in very similar style in work that predates Jackson, e.g. Dungeons and Dragons and Warhammer, and the designers would no doubt have been aware of that.

  • @AnEruditeAdventure
    @AnEruditeAdventure ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest issue with the costumes is the lack of beards. I believe it’s less than 1/2 of them that have something I’d consider a beard.
    -T

  • @thedarkdane7
    @thedarkdane7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please, please, please do a video ranking all the Middle Earth costumes. I do not care if it is 4 hours long, I will watch it!

  • @brycejames7829
    @brycejames7829 ปีที่แล้ว

    no eyebrows is aggressive, its like a bald head, says "hit my unprotected eyes, goodluck"

  • @OneTrueVikingbard
    @OneTrueVikingbard ปีที่แล้ว

    The scene is real and it. is. GLORIOUS!!!
    17:17 Lord Bomba the Wide/“Lateralus” moment

  • @ShawnWDunn
    @ShawnWDunn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thorin's character design is really easy. "Short Aragorn" That's basically all I saw when I suffered my way through the mess of a trilogy.

  • @PleaseNThankYou
    @PleaseNThankYou ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sacrilege in my house. But you were right a few times so... thumbs up. (Please don't tell my grandkids, ok?🤣)

  • @cyanidelizards
    @cyanidelizards ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gloin = gimli deluxe

  • @nole8923
    @nole8923 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yah know, I’m fervently against tattoos and don’t have a single one on my body, but if I was included as one of the 9 fellowship characters I would agree to get the tattoo. It’s literally a badge of honor and no doubt the ladies would be impressed.