Nice review, I just bought one of these. You are totally right about it being easier to slice paper one way than the other. It's because paper has a grain to it, just like wood - the fibres are all laid down in one direction, so when you slice along them you're cutting along the grain, but turn it 90 degrees and then you're cutting across the grain, and that makes a big difference. A lot of people doing paper-cutting tests don't seem to realise this.
As far as I'm concerned, you should never feel that you have to explain yourself for taking issue with blade play on a knife, especially so soon after the purchase. I think most people in our community would probably be just as bothered by it as you were, and lots of them wouldn't be able to handle it gracefully and not get super pissed like you didn't. For what it's worth, I was already taking steps to purchase this knife before the video was even over. You do a great job dude. Keep up the good work, and thanks!
I repeatedly tried to carry my sr1 lite in my gym shorts but after being asked to leave the gym many many times for wardrobe malfunctions heeheehee, I bought double safes. Perfect light shorts knife, I’m in love!!!!
Glad you have been off your meds for ~ 3 days, that way I get to see the real you. Great video J-S, beat the hell out of this knife, for certain a review unlike most.
I finally figured out why I love this knife so much! It’s the exact same handle as the Cold steel Mackinac hunter I lost!!!! 😭😭😭😭 I miss that Mackinac hunter it was the joy of my edc! Do you own one??? Where can I buy one????? I can’t believe it was discontinued. A solid steel triad lock tough mutter, it was!
Cold Steel has their knives produced with good heat treatment. Not all 8cr13 is treated the same. I'm surprised the edge didn't roll from that impact. Excited to try their Slock Master folder.
Yeah:) just wanna say i like the way you presents the knifes to us. Manly grrrrrr and lots of Entertainment!:) I really like the Cold Steel stuff and the Immortal is my favorite along with the Hogue X5 Wharncliffe. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany!
I’m guessing there’s a d-shaped hole to keep it from spinning, and if it was g10 that’d be fine, but with the gfnfrnwtf being less rigid the d-shape got deformed and stripped out allowing the pivot to spin freely. Just a hunch.
@@RossBoss90 They were made that way. I was told that Cold Steel hadn't intended on the knife being taken apart by people who bought it. Their answer was disappointing.
New bionic man LOL you are funny. Keep us updated about the pivot. Still hoped you can take it apart to see what is up with it. If you send it in we never gonna know what fail.
Hmmm... Tough to say. I find cold steel knives to be usually very trustworthy, you probably messed up the pivot with the brutal testing but who knows for sure. Either way, good video, I like the knife still :)
Wait hot a minute. So you're telling me if you abuse the shit out of this folding knife and take it back to the shop, there is something wrong with it? Hmm.. 🤔 I just received my Double Safe Hunter today and I absolutely love this thing! I won't ever use it as a hammer though because...well its a knife. lol Good video and I'll give it a thumbs up!
Do a one of these videos on the $2 knife from Walmart! (Kidding) I have the same knife and the pin doesn’t spin. There’s no play in the blade. The Bush Ranger Lite on the other hand has side to side and back and forth, but I still like it. It isn’t bad play. Good video by the way.
My Luzon can’t be screwed tighter and is loose like this one, now I think it can be the pivot too, the first Cold Steel knife that made me dissappointed, damn I just can’t screw it down how I like (hate loose blades).
The myth of 8CR13MOV being sub-standard steel has been busted, IMO. Good design overall on this knife, but I am like you: I do not like blade play. Please keep us posted on how Cold Steel helps to resolve this.
I have a friend who does dumb stuff with knives. If he threw this knife at trees all day, would it develop blade play like his buck 285? also does it have a triad lock or is it just a lockback.
OK, I got my Double Safe Hunter yesterday. I like the general design, especially the blade shape and the grippy textured handle, but I have some issues with it. Firstly, you didn't mess up the pivot on your knife, mine is free spinning too. This means you can't disassemble the knife, and you can't adjust the pivot tension, which is a big problem. Why, Cold Steel, why? All of us knife guys like to fiddle about with our knives and tune the action! Secondly, the pocket clip. It's thick moulded plastic, not steel, and it effectively forms part of the left side of the handle. You can't swap it over, which sucks for left-handers like me, you can't reposition it, which sucks if you like tip-down carry, and you can't even remove it, since that leaves female threaded posts sticking out of the handle. in other words, you're stuck with right-hand tip-up carry only - if you want anything else, you're out of luck. Why didn't Cold Steel go with a simple reversible steel clip like on the Pro-Lite series? I can't see this model being very popular with these obvious design flaws - in a few years time, people will be saying 'Oh yeah, the Double Safe Hunter, that one with the weird plastic pocket clip which nobody liked.'
The knife can be taken apart. I managed to do it, but it's a hassle. You have to torque one of the scales to put pressure on the pivot, so it won't turn. It's ridiculous. And the answer they gave is ridiculous. It's a great beater. A nice truck knife or tackle box blade, but it's not a knife that is going to bring you a lot of happiness. :)
@@Jimislash I'm wishing I'd gone for the Bush Ranger Lite instead now - don't know about the pivot on that, but at least it has a sensible pocket clip, and it's a similar shaped hunting knife to the Hunter.
The Hunter is about 1.2 ounces lighter. Plus the blade is a little thinner. I personally like the ergos on the Bush Lite better, because of the thumb ramp...
Cold steels 8cr13mov is literally the best 8cr out there imo I've got a mini leatherneck tanto in a basket and I can't decide between this or the rajah 3 any help is greatly appreciated. Or do I just drop £130 plus on a rajah 2 😈?
Get the Rajah 3. This is a great knife. The extra lock makes it unkillable. However, the Rajah 3 is unkillable without the extra lock. Of course, I'd get the Rajah 2, but I don't like to push my religious beliefs on anybody. :)
@@Jimislash Hahaha oh don't worry the 2 is on my wish list just need to save up 😂, also I wondered what your thoughts would be on the mini tac series being given an aus 10 makeover
See here Sir Squints-a lot! You know we live in amazing times , when people complain about S35vn lol. From my experience, Cold Steel heat treats all their steels very well. I’m willing to bet this 8cr13mov will out cut some m390. Everyone can look up some cut tests here on TH-cam. Some m390 just underperforms. A lot actually lol
I wish cold steel wouldnt make cheaper knives in china with their materials, I mean what would this be if it was made in aus8a even in taiwan maybe 5-10 dollars more I would happily buy it then but i wont buy any of of their chinese made stuff..
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Nice review, I just bought one of these. You are totally right about it being easier to slice paper one way than the other. It's because paper has a grain to it, just like wood - the fibres are all laid down in one direction, so when you slice along them you're cutting along the grain, but turn it 90 degrees and then you're cutting across the grain, and that makes a big difference. A lot of people doing paper-cutting tests don't seem to realise this.
HOLY FREAK!!! Thank you! I thought I was nuts on the paper thing. :) You're awesome!
As far as I'm concerned, you should never feel that you have to explain yourself for taking issue with blade play on a knife, especially so soon after the purchase. I think most people in our community would probably be just as bothered by it as you were, and lots of them wouldn't be able to handle it gracefully and not get super pissed like you didn't. For what it's worth, I was already taking steps to purchase this knife before the video was even over. You do a great job dude. Keep up the good work, and thanks!
Thank you for the kind words and insight. I carried this just yesterday. I like the knife a lot.
Love your testing. Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Cool knife.
I repeatedly tried to carry my sr1 lite in my gym shorts but after being asked to leave the gym many many times for wardrobe malfunctions heeheehee, I bought double safes. Perfect light shorts knife, I’m in love!!!!
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Glad you have been off your meds for ~ 3 days, that way I get to see the real you. Great video J-S, beat the hell out of this knife, for certain a review unlike most.
I finally figured out why I love this knife so much! It’s the exact same handle as the Cold steel Mackinac hunter I lost!!!! 😭😭😭😭 I miss that Mackinac hunter it was the joy of my edc! Do you own one??? Where can I buy one????? I can’t believe it was discontinued. A solid steel triad lock tough mutter, it was!
Nice thorough review. Just ordered one...your enthusiasm is contagious.
Awesome! Thank you for the kind words. :)
Cold Steel has their knives produced with good heat treatment. Not all 8cr13 is treated the same. I'm surprised the edge didn't roll from that impact. Excited to try their Slock Master folder.
I'd like to try the Slock Master, as well.
@@Jimislash which one is better overall this or the slock master safe hunter ?
@@thefaithful5991 I like the Slock Master better.
Thanks for the follow up & keepin' it real man.
More to come. :) Thank you.
I love that knife to Cold Steel is the Best Thanks for Another Awesome Video .
Yeah:) just wanna say i like the way you presents the knifes to us. Manly grrrrrr and lots of Entertainment!:) I really like the Cold Steel stuff and the Immortal is my favorite along with the Hogue X5 Wharncliffe. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany!
Thank you! I love the Hogue X series.
I like a lot the design. I like a lot of models from cold steel.
Me too! Both times. :)
Good looking knife what a beast Thanks for the look ✌️
It took a great beating and stayed functional.
@@Jimislash I wonder if the pivot is D shaped the camo is cool
@@rodneypearson6986 I'm going to try to get into it.
I’m guessing there’s a d-shaped hole to keep it from spinning, and if it was g10 that’d be fine, but with the gfnfrnwtf being less rigid the d-shape got deformed and stripped out allowing the pivot to spin freely. Just a hunch.
That might be it. I'll get another to see.
@@Jimislash What did you end up finding out?
@@RossBoss90 They were made that way. I was told that Cold Steel hadn't intended on the knife being taken apart by people who bought it. Their answer was disappointing.
Nice bro!! I have a similar cold steel with that secondary lock and it’s also 8cr steel. I really like it
It's so close to being a great knife. That Crawford 1 is awesome, too.
The Crawford is what I have lol
New bionic man LOL you are funny. Keep us updated about the pivot. Still hoped you can take it apart to see what is up with it. If you send it in we never gonna know what fail.
Yeah, I'll keep trying.
Thank you!
There's a couple extra features internally with the triad over a traditional lockback, besides just the extra pin
I got the same and what your ear when shaking its lock button lock it and u wont ear a sound
Hmmm... Tough to say. I find cold steel knives to be usually very trustworthy, you probably messed up the pivot with the brutal testing but who knows for sure. Either way, good video, I like the knife still :)
Me too!
Wait hot a minute. So you're telling me if you abuse the shit out of this folding knife and take it back to the shop, there is something wrong with it? Hmm.. 🤔 I just received my Double Safe Hunter today and I absolutely love this thing! I won't ever use it as a hammer though because...well its a knife. lol Good video and I'll give it a thumbs up!
I really like mine. It just takes a little extra effort to take it apart. Thank you for the thumbs up! :)
Nice smooth open. Just lost my Finn Wolf I've had for over 4 years.
I won’t deliberately buy a free spinning pivot.
Damn Bad ass lookin!Oh nooo! Great lookin. Your the man Josh. I always knew you were stand up.
It was SO close. :)
Jimislash 🤏
Do a one of these videos on the $2 knife from Walmart! (Kidding) I have the same knife and the pin doesn’t spin. There’s no play in the blade. The Bush Ranger Lite on the other hand has side to side and back and forth, but I still like it. It isn’t bad play. Good video by the way.
I love your commentary lol. Ordered a 4max scout because of you
That is really cool. Thank you for letting me know.
Like wood paper has a grain that's why somtimes you will glide through and other times it will tear. Fun fact of the day..
Thank you!
My Luzon can’t be screwed tighter and is loose like this one, now I think it can be the pivot too, the first Cold Steel knife that made me dissappointed, damn I just can’t screw it down how I like (hate loose blades).
Yeah, that is annoying. Get in touch with them. That should be taken care of.
Mine jas 8cr14, wich is great value for a knife that cost me 28 dollars
Love the video. I have a glove, I have a brain, I have a knife AND...I have safety glasses. Does that make me "Triple Safe"?
You are now Triple Safe. Congratulations!
I am patiently waiting for the SR1 Lite, between that and the large voyager vaquero (4in) my EDC shall be complete. (Till the next knife lol)
Ooooo, both good ones. :) I am waiting, as well.
The myth of 8CR13MOV being sub-standard steel has been busted, IMO. Good design overall on this knife, but I am like you: I do not like blade play. Please keep us posted on how Cold Steel helps to resolve this.
It's not looking good MJ.
Lock tight, or just tighten it back up every once in a while, even bemchmades have that problem, tho bemchmades are kind of shit for what they charge
I have a friend who does dumb stuff with knives. If he threw this knife at trees all day, would it develop blade play like his buck 285? also does it have a triad lock or is it just a lockback.
It might develop blade play. This is a lockback with a secondary lock. It's really strong.
OK, I got my Double Safe Hunter yesterday. I like the general design, especially the blade shape and the grippy textured handle, but I have some issues with it. Firstly, you didn't mess up the pivot on your knife, mine is free spinning too. This means you can't disassemble the knife, and you can't adjust the pivot tension, which is a big problem. Why, Cold Steel, why? All of us knife guys like to fiddle about with our knives and tune the action!
Secondly, the pocket clip. It's thick moulded plastic, not steel, and it effectively forms part of the left side of the handle. You can't swap it over, which sucks for left-handers like me, you can't reposition it, which sucks if you like tip-down carry, and you can't even remove it, since that leaves female threaded posts sticking out of the handle. in other words, you're stuck with right-hand tip-up carry only - if you want anything else, you're out of luck. Why didn't Cold Steel go with a simple reversible steel clip like on the Pro-Lite series? I can't see this model being very popular with these obvious design flaws - in a few years time, people will be saying 'Oh yeah, the Double Safe Hunter, that one with the weird plastic pocket clip which nobody liked.'
The knife can be taken apart. I managed to do it, but it's a hassle. You have to torque one of the scales to put pressure on the pivot, so it won't turn. It's ridiculous. And the answer they gave is ridiculous. It's a great beater. A nice truck knife or tackle box blade, but it's not a knife that is going to bring you a lot of happiness. :)
@@Jimislash I'm wishing I'd gone for the Bush Ranger Lite instead now - don't know about the pivot on that, but at least it has a sensible pocket clip, and it's a similar shaped hunting knife to the Hunter.
Hats off for a truly honest review!
Thank you. :)
5:13: if you can read this you’re too close. Lol! Love your videos.
HEY!!! HEY!!! HEY!!! :) HEY!!! SO COOL!!!
5:13 is a good time. :)
Beautiful blade. Yeah, like a enhanced buck...
I hope they sell it at Tactical Asia.
How is this different from the Bush Ranger Lite?
It's a better shape. :)
The Hunter is about 1.2 ounces lighter. Plus the blade is a little thinner. I personally like the ergos on the Bush Lite better, because of the thumb ramp...
@@franciscoscaramanga589 I didn't care for the ergos on the regular Bush Ranger.
I paid only 31.99!!! Makes a lot of sense at that price. I just won't mess with the pivot!!! Lol no blade play in mine yet.
Thats impressive, budget triadesk lock right here
Cold steels 8cr13mov is literally the best 8cr out there imo I've got a mini leatherneck tanto in a basket and I can't decide between this or the rajah 3 any help is greatly appreciated. Or do I just drop £130 plus on a rajah 2 😈?
Get the Rajah 3. This is a great knife. The extra lock makes it unkillable. However, the Rajah 3 is unkillable without the extra lock. Of course, I'd get the Rajah 2, but I don't like to push my religious beliefs on anybody. :)
@@Jimislash Hahaha oh don't worry the 2 is on my wish list just need to save up 😂, also I wondered what your thoughts would be on the mini tac series being given an aus 10 makeover
@@rosscurran5650 That's awesome! I love AUS10.
@@Jimislash such a great steel
Have you ever beat on a buck 112 that way? And if so. Did it hold up?
What did cold steel do for you?
What did it turn out to be?
I never beat on a Buck. Cold Steel hasn't got back to me, yet. I am sure they will.
@@Jimislash curious to know how the buck 112 would do
@@petersirangelo2867 That would be a good test. I'll see if I can find an inexpensive one. :)
@@Jimislash you the man
Next blade sports competitor is Joshua "Cyclops" Balay.
They'll have to line me up and just tell me to start whacking. :)
Does the blade contact the handle in the closed psoition like in the slock master version?
I don't have a Slock Master.
See here Sir Squints-a lot! You know we live in amazing times , when people complain about S35vn lol. From my experience, Cold Steel heat treats all their steels very well. I’m willing to bet this 8cr13mov will out cut some m390. Everyone can look up some cut tests here on TH-cam. Some m390 just underperforms. A lot actually lol
Great point!
If its working you didn't kill it, end of story. Yeah it sucks when a part goes loose but its a hunting knife first and foremost
Great, great budget knife.
I wish cold steel wouldnt make cheaper knives in china with their materials, I mean what would this be if it was made in aus8a even in taiwan maybe 5-10 dollars more I would happily buy it then but i wont buy any of of their chinese made stuff..
A lot of folks feel that way.
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Saludos desde españa paletooo
:) Greetings!
@@Jimislash Rural village
All that wonky writing on the blade looks horrible! If it just had "D.S Hunter" - written straight it would be great!
I'm not bothered by stuff on the blade. "D.S. Hunter" sounds like an author's name. :)
@@Jimislash Yup! "The Wind and The Walrus" by D.S. Hunter
@@darthvaper6745 LOL! Perfect!
Ok Nick
Wow nice looking design knife!!! :D
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