343 Industries Original Plan for Halo Infinite (Exclusive Report)

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  • @RebsGaming
    @RebsGaming  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thank you for watching and stay tuned for more reports! Btw I meant to specify that health packs were cut from Halo 2 but left in as an Easter egg, and used in Halo 3: ODST (I accidentally said Halo 3)

    • @shawnmay-zb1cz
      @shawnmay-zb1cz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was bout to tell you you were wrong

  • @KrisKlicks
    @KrisKlicks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I miss all the early halo infinite glitches, scorpion gun, Out of bounds, pelican, fusion coil, chopper launch. Im glad i was able to experience it all cause thats all we were hype about back then. Breaks my heart that infinite didnt get to live up to its full potential especially the campaign.

    • @wut-se8hz
      @wut-se8hz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      At least scorpion gun is back and became an official thing in the multiplayer

  • @MintBlitz
    @MintBlitz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    1/3 - 1/2 being cut just shows how rushed they were to get it out and why it had so much technical debt.

    • @Will_Forge
      @Will_Forge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No no, he said they "shipped about 1/3 - 1/2" of the original plan, meaning 1/2 to 2/3 were cut. So he means that it was roughly more than 1/2 cut, not less than 1/2. It's crazy, and I really wish we could have seen that. I wish they had thrown out a few smaller Halo titles in the years since Halo 5 other than Halo Wars 2 (possibly with third party developers) to tide everyone over and just delay Infinite till it was complete. Truly a rough timeline for Halo.
      Still looking forward to finding out what new management can pull out for the next big thing in Halo, though.

    • @dataracer1172
      @dataracer1172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lesson for all the people who got angry about Craig. Bc stupid graphic quality is what caused this. Graphics were fine.They destroyed their game over that.

    • @RebsGaming
      @RebsGaming  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Will_Forge you are correct will! 1/2-2/3 of content was cut which is a lot!

    • @Will_Forge
      @Will_Forge หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dataracer1172 Could be the source of the issue, but it's also possible that Craig's face being emotionless was indicative of them not being on schedule with the rest of the game too. Like maybe the development schedule was already thrown off so much that they had to cut that content, and Craig was actually a clue to that effect. It's all but impossible to say from the outside looking in.
      Most importantly, though, the team should have the ability to prioritize that content over placating a whining audience who disliked the graphics. If they needed that time to finish the game they should have ignored the bleating of the masses. In other words it's still on their shoulders to remain in control, not on the shoulders of mass outrage.

  • @NostalgiaNet8
    @NostalgiaNet8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Microsoft were gonna outright ditch Halo after Bungie left, the only reason why they made Halo 3 ODST and Reach, were because of contract obligations. They've been planning to leave Microsoft for a long time. 343 were the ones who insisted on keeping Halo around. Bonnie Ross was over everything involved with Halo, and she wasn't the right person to steer the ship, yet Microsoft did nothing about it for years....

  • @sprtnrxb
    @sprtnrxb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    It still hurts to this day trying to fly to the north eastern areas using the invincibility glitch and Pelican in the Season 1 build but they’re no match for the OOB timer. But if Infinite does get official modding support, then maybe the north eastern area would be restored to its former glory

    • @RebsGaming
      @RebsGaming  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I love this idea!

  • @erica.9431
    @erica.9431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man you can really feel it. I remember finishing the campaign and just thinking to myself: "What? That's it?" I felt like nothing really meaningful happened storywise... Probably also because they threw you once again into a story you had no idea about (especially when you didn't play HW 2 like me...)

  • @derelict007
    @derelict007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would have been just fine with a normal ass campaign with a good story

  • @ButteryGoodnessINC
    @ButteryGoodnessINC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Seems like the sandbox team had most of the dev control for Infinite overall. Which explains the lack of weapons and vehicles, as one team wanted a classic feel and possibly many weapons and vehicles, while the other wanted modern gameplay and few things, which is what we got.
    Would love to see if the code for the Mantis is still somewhere in the game, as ot was my favorite vehicle 343 made. Also Eaglestrike core, being my favorite one too, but a lack of customization hurt it greatly. Especially those who play for free.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to see the more classic mech suits. The mantis looks WORSE than the other YGGDRASIL models we saw over the years.

    • @PackHunter117
      @PackHunter117 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not just the Mantis but heck the Phaeton I wish was in the game also. Really miss that aircraft

  • @JJAB91
    @JJAB91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    What annoys me about all this is that 343i KNEW the game was going to release an unfinished mess. They outright KNEW that the campaign was a fraction of what was planned and rather shallow yet they still sold the game. They still charged a full price $60 for a campaign they knew was in an incomplete state.
    You don't get to say you wished you could have done better in one breath but then still sell the content you are disappointed in to consumers at full retail price in the other.

    • @ygu9425
      @ygu9425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Calling it an "unfinished mess" is disingenuous. The campaign side of the game was definitely not unfinished. There were hardly any bugs. The story had to start and a finish and it told the story. After finishing the game I did wish that there was more but to say that it was an "unfinished mess" is a blatant lie. Sounds like you didn't even play the game.

    • @emperorfridgethedude
      @emperorfridgethedude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​​@@ygu9425
      Ironically, it sounds like _you_ didn't even play the game. There was an ABSURD amount of bugs when the campaign launched. Random death barriers would spawn that made impossible to progress, doors wouldn't unlock when they were supposed to, stuff like that. The story literally stops abruptly at a cliffhanger, and the only thing Master Chief does throughout the game besides killing miscellaneous Banished leaders is learn about the stuff that happened offscreen. Even the gameplay that people like to praise to no end just comes down to fighting the same things we have been for twenty years, and one new enemy thats a worse version of the Drones. Infinite's campaign is undeniably unfinished.

    • @ygu9425
      @ygu9425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@emperorfridgethedude experienced zero bugs. And the rest of what you said is very opinionated. So nah definitely not an "unfinished mess"

    • @ygu9425
      @ygu9425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@emperorfridgethedude The majority of people who played the game would agree also. I mean it has decent reviews scores. So I think saying it's a "unfinished mess" would imply that the game doesn't work. And the game definitely worked. Just say you hate the game and move on lol.

    • @ryan_1099
      @ryan_1099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's all cuz o Chris Lee really.
      Too bad it was such a mess in development.

  • @alvincampo5811
    @alvincampo5811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The amount of developers I saw in the credits this game was outsourced to was astronomically high and all the contract work when they hire people is a shame

  • @OnePlayer480
    @OnePlayer480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I assumed the health packs were for Marines, you don't need them, but they do.
    And makes sense because Marine survivability is one of the biggest complains people have since the CE era, they don't regen health or armor at all. And most of the Regen abilities or even equipment have never healed them either.
    This makes more sense development wise.

  • @N_0_I_Z_E
    @N_0_I_Z_E 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm kinda glad the health pack got cut it would have slowed Down the gameplay I wouldn't have minded it though if it was Only like that in the campaign that would have been kind of cool And with how opened the world was it would have really encouraged exploration I think that's the reason why all the weapons in infinite Can barely hold any ammo

  • @deepism
    @deepism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The more information that comes out about Halo: Infinite's campaign, the more heartbreaking it is. It was poised to be so fucking good. I have been missing the health system since Combat Evolved and Reach. It was such a good balancing failsafe in those games' multiplayers.

  • @Ron.Swanson.
    @Ron.Swanson. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    “343 is deciding to do a CE remake”
    pls 343 don’t put your hands on anything halo related just make your own IP and hand the franchise to another entity

    • @NostalgiaNet8
      @NostalgiaNet8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You do realize a lot of these decisions were made by higher ups, right?

    • @smileyfacism
      @smileyfacism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@NostalgiaNet8the higher ups can suck it and let 343's main staff jump ship to whoever actually cares about halo.

    • @Ron.Swanson.
      @Ron.Swanson. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NostalgiaNet8 what’s your point lol

    • @Will_Forge
      @Will_Forge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ron.Swanson. His point is that almost all of that leadership is gone now. They cleaned house pretty extensively, specifically changing the head of 343 to Pierre Hintze who had previously been in charge of fixing 343i's fuckup with MCC by making as good of a product it is today (hackers be damned).

  • @lastchanceihave
    @lastchanceihave 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They should have cut the grappling hook, too.

  • @rg975
    @rg975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I hate Microsoft so much. I will never forgive them for what they did to Halo. If they gave 343 another 2 years we could have gotten the best Halo since Reach

    • @Sahlan_Ahamed
      @Sahlan_Ahamed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wouldn't be so sure. 343 still would've had all the management disfunctions which hindered the devolepment for almost all their games. If it was another two years, campaign team would end exhausted (if you don't know how they were treated).

    • @sgtaveryjohnson3803
      @sgtaveryjohnson3803 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But halo 4 was a good game

    • @nagger8216
      @nagger8216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sgtaveryjohnson3803 lol No

    • @likeaboss4077
      @likeaboss4077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They developed the game for 7 years lol they had plenty of time

    • @Mattznick
      @Mattznick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      343 is just as fault if not more than Microsoft

  • @ericmauch3678
    @ericmauch3678 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    damn so halo infinite is going to be the beta for this next game

  • @KevinIsNice6984
    @KevinIsNice6984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are crashed drop pods in the open world which makes sense for the ce remake idea

  • @EganBar
    @EganBar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If 343i wants to give infinite another 2 years of content, they definitely gotta do sum with the campaign

  • @iPlayiOS
    @iPlayiOS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *Pain™*

  • @BrokenCircle1
    @BrokenCircle1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    4:00...so they gave us half a game at more than full price and now want to sell us another game at more than full price to make up for it?
    #fire343

    • @NostalgiaNet8
      @NostalgiaNet8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is a Microsoft problem. Just look at their track record.

  • @brokenhdd9291
    @brokenhdd9291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    My friend was a sandbox designer on Infinite, and he told me that his lead hated Halo 1, and would specifically push against any efforts to recreate the halo 1 sandbox. It sounded like really toxic lead.

    • @EggEnjoyer
      @EggEnjoyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Imagine hating halo 1 😂

    • @Sahlan_Ahamed
      @Sahlan_Ahamed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤦‍♂️

    • @johnderat2652
      @johnderat2652 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I want to believe you but I mean you're just a random on the internet. Who knows if you're telling BS or not

    • @rangerleaf1505
      @rangerleaf1505 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is complete bullshit and you know it

    • @Mattznick
      @Mattznick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sure buddy and my dad is Bungie

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It really seems like they're trying to remedy their wrongdoings under the Bonny, Wolf, and A Franky. But to do that requires them to look at the original game and understand what made it beloved honestly if a proper Halo CE Anniversary/Remake is being made PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GET MARTY to supervise it.

    • @Borgron
      @Borgron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd be really surprised if they seek him out. Even more so if he actually accepts.

    • @martin_the_artist_
      @martin_the_artist_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Borgron Yeah it would never happen, but that would go a long way to regain trust with fans if they hired Joe, Marty & other OG team members. Joe is possible as he still works for MS and helped shipped Infinite, but I'm not sure what terms Marty is with them these days.

    • @Borgron
      @Borgron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martin_the_artist_ Act Man recently did another interview with Marty. He actually states it wouldn't have been a bad idea to leave Bungie after CE.
      At this point I have near zero faith in Halo. I'd rather put that towards companies that actually seem to care about us.

    • @LonelyGamer4
      @LonelyGamer4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marty is a clown.

  • @antoine121
    @antoine121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It would of been healthy for the game had they put different biomes in those playable areas. Seems like were lucky with what we got ,becuase 343 during infinte development stage was a hot mess considering they had 6 years since halo 5, and they barely gave us any content. Honestly it feels like they weren't put in the best position to succed in the first place.

  • @Mattznick
    @Mattznick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for halo 1 fans this would have been awesome, but i guarantee you for the rest of people they would have hated this

  • @Will057
    @Will057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Health packs wouldn't have been fun

  • @aidsbaker7639
    @aidsbaker7639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    People dont seem to know just how horribly the game was fumbled. Another reason the campaign is so short, and end without wrapping up the story, is because it wasnt supposed to end there. A new campaign was supposed come out with each season. Each campaign containing another portion of the story and taking the player to a new location on the ring. We didnt just end up with a third of the finished game. We ended up with an EIGHTH OF IT. From what dataminers could uncover, the second campaign would take place in a desert. But due to poor management decisions (as it often is) and layoffs we'll never see the full game.
    They made a whole new engine from scratch and marketed halo infinite as the Xbox Series X's launch title. Halo infinite was supposed to be THE halo for the next DECADE, but it hardly lasted a couple years. Its very upsetting for me.

  • @OnePlayer480
    @OnePlayer480 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Health could work but just for challenge runs, normal Infinite gameplay wouldn't work with them unless the Health value was cranked all the way up like in CE.
    Overall I like the end result better.

  • @BrokenCircle1
    @BrokenCircle1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    343 are scum for removing the out of bounds areas. Why do that why?
    Also scum for cutting so much content then blatantly leaving it there. Just wrong.

    • @jason2077
      @jason2077 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They weren't finished...

    • @deepism
      @deepism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dog, they weren't finished. Think, dude. I get holding 343i accountable but this is just rabid.

    • @nagger8216
      @nagger8216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@deepism They had 6 years to make a finished game, it's not anyone else's fault but their own they wasted so much time on stupid shit like Halo-themed Overwatch clones, only to scrap it all and start over.

    • @deepism
      @deepism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nagger8216 Right, I agree, but this guy is upset they removed scrapped and unfinished items and terrain from the game post-launch. That's as normal as it gets in any case, really. Like I said, it's just rabid.

    • @stormbreaker7373
      @stormbreaker7373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Chill every single video game you have ever liked has cut content

  • @AEleven
    @AEleven 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well this is interesting...

  • @CoffeeCrowgasm
    @CoffeeCrowgasm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gotta love that they patched that glitch out 😂 waste of company time when there's more important stuff

  • @isisbarfuss558
    @isisbarfuss558 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite part was when Rebs said "It's Rebbin' time" and Rebbed all over the place.

  • @lordshmee13
    @lordshmee13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So with a spiritual remake or flat out remake. We'll never move away from Halo 3s story will we?
    Retcon after retcon, Forerunner alive and then dead, Endless alive then dead, New Covenant dead Covenant, hell the Banished and Endless might get off Lucky but only if 343i is working on new game and no on the remake 😅 otherwise wow that's a bad rut, I'm all for the remake but come on guys we NEED NEW STORIES, can't keep it to the books OK 😅

  • @3mpt7
    @3mpt7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Old Bungie team (with Marty, Jason, etc): "Yeah, we threw this together in five minutes, and we know it's ridiculous, but it's the only thing we could think of to make it work."
    343 Industries: "We are your robot overlords. We do not make mistakes. We are Microsoft. We are not Microsoft. We did not name ourselves after 343 Guilty Spark. We named ourselves after 343 Guilty Spark. We love Halo. We hate Halo. We will erase all traces of our mistakes. We make no mistakes. Please, enjoy your modding. We will be watching. Closely."

  • @halolover6893
    @halolover6893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has there been any discoveries on other ways to get over there? I'm so sad I'll never be able to go see it for myself

  • @JohanTualomboG
    @JohanTualomboG หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro. I was hoping if you could play my friend's forge map called "The Silent Cartographer:Mission" By Nilphz in Halo Infinite. It's a new interpretation of the classic mission but in Zeta Halo, with a modern style, hight detailed environments and more enemie Bosses ;)/

  • @JAGO_Tech
    @JAGO_Tech 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmmm H2 & H3 didn't have health packs. CE, Reach, & ODST 👌👍

  • @Bobaluga9
    @Bobaluga9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Modernize" lmao! That hasn't worked for a decade now. Stop trying.

  • @UnabridgedGamer
    @UnabridgedGamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Um, wait, what? Health kits aren't a thing in Halo 2 or 3? They're in CE, ODST, and Reach.

    • @RebsGaming
      @RebsGaming  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@UnabridgedGamer please read my pinned comment thank you

  • @Erandi9
    @Erandi9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are all halo main entrees cut? We never saw a full halo game.

  • @dataracer1172
    @dataracer1172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Infinite was supposed to be Halo's new open world platform for the next 10 years... And 343 QUIT after 3 years. Basically after launch. This shouldve been the damn campaign seasons. 343 are such failures. Sigh.

  • @scootletawny3886
    @scootletawny3886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why patch the glitches? Finish the game, please.

  • @shaideyfresh1
    @shaideyfresh1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Messing with Halo regenerating health thing is lame ... I would not like that.

    • @kylerbryant3772
      @kylerbryant3772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How is it bad? CE and Reach did it and they great!

    • @nagger8216
      @nagger8216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kylerbryant3772 The people that were making those games actually knew what they were doing though.

  • @darkspark5854
    @darkspark5854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Infinite should have been Halo’s best campaign. But considering what we got it’s undeniably the worst. Simply because it’s not a complete game. What we got was unacceptable. Every aspect of the campaign was half assed and incomplete. From the story which was just plain dumb, to the sandbox being so small that they had to put banished weapons on some of the sentinels.
    The fact that people still enjoyed it for what it was really goes to show how much potential it actually had. Even in an extremely unfinished state it was still fun. Imagine how it would have been if the game was actually complete

  • @kairu_b
    @kairu_b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    😢

    • @RebsGaming
      @RebsGaming  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😢

  • @KarmaTube5
    @KarmaTube5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Halo infinite wasn’t finished to begin with

  • @mokaakashiya1177
    @mokaakashiya1177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad

  • @Salmonjoe12
    @Salmonjoe12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad they left out health packs, They’re really annoying imo