Route C! | NieR Automata Pt. 16 | Marz Plays
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- In part 16, we start Route C and it's INTENSE! So much is happening and it's picked up some serious speed!
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You guys weren't kidding. Route C is intense..
You so cute marz😍
I told you the real shit starts at route C 😁
Scratch that Itch Ma’am! XD
the fun is just beginning ;)
Phi Kid
thirst
Welcome to the start of the game
Way too many people skip side quests and get rekt in Route C because they are 10-15 level lower then the enemy..........
This was the worst part of the game
@@SoulOfDerp this... this was me...
@@MarcXisme Route C was the worst part of the game? You are the only person that thinks that
@@MarcXisme your joking right?
Me after getting ending A and B (already addicted): "huh, I guess this game is just as good as everyone says".
Me after the prologue of the third route C:
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"F*CK."
The bunker part is so sad when you do Operator 60 side quest. She was too pure for this word :'(
thisjointisloose gotta beat some sense into her, :P
Yeah lucky I finished pretty much all the side quests before going Route C, I feel like it will be a bit missed out if I didn't do some of the major ones. Operator 6O is just too sad.
The flower thing right ? I was waiting for it too and waiting for Marz to react to it but i think she skipped the sidequest and the dialogue didnt come out..
which quest is that ?
@@diegoramos27 “Find a Present”; you give 6O a Desert Flower and she thanks you for it. During the Bunker sequence, the Operator you kill repeats that line, implying that 2B just killed 6O
At 56:25, when you thought it's finally the ending credits, then realize it was just the opening credits... :mindf*ck:
I want to make a suggestion for route C. DON'T HACK BOSSES. And kill them slowly. DON'T kill them too fast because you will miss a lot of meaningful dialogues. Route C has a lot of good moments that can be easily missed by hacking or killing too fast.
Gameplay > Story
@@kimmedavid Trust me. When you are at route C. Believe me or not you will be overpowered. The bosses are nothing in route C. Killing them slowly is a way of making the fight more interesting.
Lambo Racer lol i have nier:automata platinum
Route C is not easy by any means!!
The first boss and Emil(s) boss fight are so freaking hard even though I had the best chips available!!
But I would agree that Hacking in general, while you're controlling 9S, makes the game way easier than it should be.
Regarding kimmedavid..
I think the story is more important than the gameplay especially that the game itself is so bad at balancing the combat and levels of enemies, and you're just spamming attack and dodge!!
@@kimmedavid wrong
The part where 2B tried to reach the bridge before the virus took over for me is one of the most memorable moments in the game. The entire UI went apeshit makes the feeling of desperation so much stronger. All is lost and you can't do anything about it.
Yeah a lot of people said it was badly designed cause you could get chain beat down and knocked in to a pit. That was the point, it was to make you feel helpless and desperate, which is what 2B was feeling at the time.
Pez Dispencer But then you’re literally just waiting to die and restart. Why not make it so that they leave you alone if you get trapped so easily
@@tovi3280 that would ruin the point of route C you are defenseless and dying and an easy target
Magus Magus No, I know, it’s just that if our are trapped you have to wait multiple minutes so you can try again. And why does it defeat the purpose of Route C? I guess what I should’ve said is why not make the enemies attack slower in that part so t doesn’t become a game of waiting a few solid minutes for no reason, just to die, because you made a small navigational mistake
Reminded me of metal gear solid 4 when you're going through the microwave corridor as solid snake :(
I don’t like it when people say Route C is where the game really begins. Route C is meaningless without the information and experiences of A and B. I think of it like this. Route A is seeing a door. Route B is unlocking the door. Route C is walking through the door and discovering what lies beyond.
It's just a joke implying the 20-30 hours beforehand was a prologue.
Route C I find kind of underwhelming gameplay wise on replay, the cutscene directing and intense moments are great, but there's no wonder to the exploration, it is literally going from objective to objective because there's little else to do but competitionist faffing about, aka all the side questing and menial colelcting you've been doing all game if you opted in doing it.
@@pezdispencer113 The prologue was the prologue.
Anyone whose done this game on hard or very hard will know that.
It is a torture chamber .
@@GramoChopin how do you misunderstand an explanation of the joke? not even the joke itself.
@GramoChopin ...I mean the joke exists because start of route C is when the opening credits and title card play.
I just realized that the bridge collapsed when the white building appeared but it's still here when A2 woke up... I wonder if they repaired it within those 2 weeks idk...
A2's voice actress is Cherami Leigh. She also voiced female V from Cyberpunk 2077 demo
lol Black Star is a female android commander in the future.
Makoto in Persona 5. Anemone is also Futaba.
plut
The English dub for all 3 of the protagonists and Pascal was excellent. Usually I see if it's even tolerable and strongly consider swapping to Japanese with English subtitles, but I've played through the entire game A through E and watched several of the voice actors videos online. Kyle McCarley in particular was spectacular in Route C.
The voice acting in this game in general is amazing. Kyle’s performance as 9s blew me away.
Man, walking as 2B, knowing I would probably die, helpless, hopeless, not being able to do anything through all the machines trying to kill you, left me with that feeling of meaninglessness, despair, emptiness, dreadfulness. Nothing to fight for, live for, stand for. The Bunker - gone, 9S - not next to me, YoRHa - your enemy now. And when she said "There is no point in backing up anyway. My body is..." with that pain and that music behind it- I just paused the game, and as corny as it sounds, sat in the cold for 10 minutes before continuing, questioning everything. What a complicated, morally grey game, great piece of art!
I really love that you question every situation and try to analyze it and don't just jump to the next part.
Ahhhh! The moment I was waiting for! I hope you will enjoy this part of the story, Christine!
1:09:40 the most solemn what are those ever uttered
You are playing 1 of the best games ever made.
FWIW, if you fall into the pit with the huge ladder in this mission it's still ok. every 10 seconds 2B recovers her normal functions for a while and can climb ladders and jump etc.
I wonder if it bugs out, because I had the exact same problem my first run through, and it did not allow me to climb that ladder at any point.
I still love the opening credits for the FIRST time in the game after 40 hours of gameplay lol, that's why it feels like what happened before this was only the prologue.
Also, 1 hour episode HYPE!
I was wondering why so many people were saying this game was so emotional. Like the first part of the game was emotional but not that bad. But now I see why. This shit got me so depressed, unexpected moments like these make a plot twist or something like that so good
What's pretty cool about NieR Automata is that this game is very meta. In a lot of videogames, you can't attack NPC or non-hostile enemies because of a simple gameplay convenience. Most of the time, the gamer understands that it's programmed by the developper as a safety net to prevent him to accidentally kill any NPC. This was the case until now for NieR Automata and we never questioned that.
But when your squad became hacked, that convenient rule backfired on you. Even they were hostile and started attacking you, you couldn't fight back because the programs inside 2B and 9S were still considering the hacked squad as NPCs ! You basically had to hack the game in order to reverse the rules to your own advantage ! :)
So you finally found Engels. If you ever do another playthrough, you should talk to him a little.
Route C: welcome to the end of the intro of the game :) hahah
1:09:34
Actually, the reason behind A2 cutting her hair short is rather symbolic, and perfectly encompasses a lot of her character when you think about it. Little character nuances like this are why I love this game so much. There's so much to be inferred from such little actions that tell you so much about a character. In my opinion, A2 cutting her hair short like 2B is one of, if not the most clever and emotional moments Yoko Taro has ever cooked up in all his games, and it blows me away every time I see it. I mean, you have to take into account the situation she was in, the merging of her and 2B's memories, and even her history, which I won't spoil for you, before you finally begin to realize this action was in fact A2's very subtle way of saying: "Hey look marketing team, now you can use footage of me in trailers and pretend I'm 2B." It's stuff like that which brings me to tears when I look back on games I've beaten. All in all, it was a very touching and very beautiful moment that perfectly nestles itself as A2's greatest instance of character development.
Tropic Hawk i read somewhere that historically, in japanese culture, cutting your hair/ changing your hairstyle is supposed to symbolize a major shift in a persons life. dont know for sure though.
@@doobyjohnson644
Oh, really? I'd believe it. I'm sure there is a good meaning here, and I've heard several theories on the subject, it's just a really easy moment to poke fun at is all. Mostly I was trying to think of what sort of comment would be most interesting to read for others. I saw this video was getting a lot of theories in the comments section about the symbolism of A2 cutting her hair so I decided to try and catch those who might be reading these comments off guard with a joke. Bonus points if Marz is among them. I do appreciate your insight though. Thank you.
Tropic Hawk Yeah, it's a japanese thing. You can see it in a million anime.
@@night1952
Man I must not be watching the right animes then. Alright. I'll take your guys's word for it.
@@tropichawk850 It's literally cutting away the burdens(long hair is heavy on the head) of a previous life(the burdens developed during the time it had to grow) to take on new ones(2B's memories and ills, which are revealed later, as 2E, and A2 being a progenitor of them). And A2 has significant burdens she laid down onto 2B's life, aka literally her corpse, and death will.
It isn't that d33p, it's merely Yoko Taro being what he is: A competent and talented playwright that juxtaposes narratives and scenarios of real people and real events. A2 took sympathy of 2B walking her path, like a fellow soldier and a veteran, 9S is experiencing murderous rage of widowed mate, because romantic hatred is as strong as romantic love once you're obsessed by it.
I love how the Game Show us the creators and writters in middel of action like a movie who starts. Just a masterpiece!
wooo! Route C! :)
Transcription: " wait. What. No. Wierd. No. What. I dont know. I cant do this. Wait. What. I'm so confused. No. I dont know"
Hack this robot.
I don’t know what to do. Do I hack him? No. I’m confused.
Hack this robot.
Is this a tutorial? I’m confused. Did I die?
Don't hack too much, you'll miss a lot of story. try and catch all the dialogue before hacking/killing a boss.
I love the"this is not how videogames supposed to be" "what is going on!?!" reaction ha ha so good
9S' Operator 21O was treating you that way because she wanted a family and saw herself as like 9S' motherly figure guiding him on missions
Her story is really sad
Wow, one of the few people who actually knows how to pronounce "automata" correctly.
Nice.
Pluto28 In Japanese it's pronounced the other way, even the staff at Square Enix calls it that way. So it depends on what you call correct. Tidus vs Teedus or Aerith vs Aerisu? Even I don't know how to call this game correctly now knowing both languages.
@@ruihanazawa2906 Tidus and Aerith aren't English words. "Automata" is, and it is not a Japanese word. They are pronouncing it incorrectly.
Wveth Wveth In Japan we use a lot of English words in our vocabulary. It's just pronounced differently. What you may call inaccurate is perfectly accurate over there due to the writing system that doesn't involve using the alphabets. The Katakana system can't replicate specific sounds like in English. I picked FF character names cuz people tend to debate over the sound. No one debates how words like hamburger is pronounced in Japan and how it's wrong. Hence I said even I don't know what to call the game cuz I know both languages. Since Japan has adopted the English language and evolved it into their own language system, and this is a Japanese game, you can't say definitively they are wrong.
@@ruihanazawa2906 Uh, yes I understand that. But we're pronouncing it in English here, not in the closest Japanese form. If we were speaking Japanese, then it would make sense.
Wveth Uh I simply gave a middleman response in my initial post, hence why I said it "depends". There is no border for languages "here" on TH-cam as I've seen plenty of people on English speaking channels responding in different languages. The only reason I even brought it up was cuz the game originated from Japan and the development staff pronounces it that way.
We didn't overhype, it only gets better from here.
It's not the conflict with the Machines that is keeping the Android's moral up (That is not why Project YoRHa was created.), it's having a PURPOSE. Having a creator and a defined purpose gives their lives MEANING. The war with the Machines is just a consequence of that. They think everything they're doing is for some higher power and glory. The Commander said "We need a God worth fighting for." last episode when she gave you the archive information on the Project. Humans are the Android's God(s). Without that purpose they may have become nihilistic, depressed, etc. I know from experience as an atheist that that absolutely happens.
Yep, and when your God is dead (as Nietzsche once said) you may become a nihilist with a collapsing values. But Nietzsche also found the solution. Just look at machines. Lots of them try to find purpose on their own and not to rely on some unquestioned external meaning imposed by some "greater" being. Actually, Nier praises nihilism showing that you should seek purpose and meaning in your nature as contrary to to a "god" - it's immortal. The only sad thing is that lots of these machines failed eventually.
@@TheAlin1213 exactly. You guys got it too. That is why I love this game.
As a person brought up with a non theistic philosophy, I had to ponder this too. For people who have no connection with God to begin with, it's so hard to see why believers struggle to see an alternative. This game is so intriguing.
@@thegreatpineapple4425 I was a Christian for a long time but I never actually struggled much with the "meaninglessness" thing that a lot of atheists talk about. One of the emotional reasons I wanted to get away from Christianity was because the ideas made me feel meaningless. Like I was just a slave for a deity that couldn't even explain clearly how to avoid Hell. It was terrifying to me. Now that I've been out for a while it's mostly just understanding that it never made sense to begin with. But I am relieved to feel like I'm not so much a worthless slave spending my life learning to grovel properly.
@@Wveth Interesting perspective. I grew up as a Buddhist, so though I didn't believe in a higher power I used to believe in rebirth and karma for example. It took me a while to come to terms with my fading beliefs and the dreaded "meaninglessness".
xD
That happened to Rocket Beans, they were even more lost than you.
They fell into the hole, went up the ladder to immediately jump back into the hole and look for an exit down there, they didn't find one, climbed up the ladder to jump down again, climbed the ladder up to fall down again trying to perform a double jump, climb up the ladder to fail the double jump again and failed the try as a whole. On the second try, they fell into the hole again, climbed up the ladder to fail the double jump again, climbed up the ladder, waited a bit, and then fail the double jump again. At this point, they finally gave up, after they climbed up the ladder. They put the fault on the game, not their bad decision-making. But unlike you, they had a break of 2 to 8 weeks between each episode spanning the whole let's play on 8 months.
State your opinion on A2's booty
Commander's Booty > 2B's Booty > A2's Booty
But A2 is the best girl and Commander is the 2nd best.
Let’s not forget about 2B’s onion
Kurisu Onion?
@ 47:20 - 2B's look of horror waking up from a nightmare where she was wearing pants lol
By the sound of it, it's the "Chipmunk" virus that has infiltrated the bunker at 49:45 lol
When 2b yells for the commander and they leave the bunker, makes me tear up every time
"I hope you guys didn't overhype it a little bit"
Why would we overhype a section of a game that's already hyped *Marz baby YOU GOT A INTENSE EMOTIONAL STORM COMING YOUR WAY!!!!*
Nice going Marz on the Playthroughs, not just this but the others been a pleasure watching you play these games as you have a different aspect when you do it. Your sincere and thats a good keep going and i'll keep watching
2:33 lol, that intercom message calling for the server administrator due to "capacity issues"
MINOR SPOILER ABOUT SUPPORT DECISION
don't worry, you are going to support 9S, so you not going to miss any content of the game. You just choosed the order of events by picking A2.
Marz: "I'm going to support....A2?..." *confusion tears* :(
A2 and Pod042's relationship is kind of precious
Watching this on my lunch break, time well spent
I love your content marz your so good at making videos ☺
“So what happens to us?” Exactly.
Thank the lord, thought I was gonna have to wait a week for the next episode 🙏🙏🙏👌👌👌
I also thought the same thing xD
Who you choose to support doesn't change the story. It's just so you can choose between A2's melee combat or 9S' hacking.
Marz: "God she's such a bad-ass, i miss 2B"
Me:...
A2 the God. Now the game truly begins...Ah, Route C is devastating. Just devastating.
I really love your demeanor when you play through. Definitely subscribing (:
1:00:48 yeah, I also fell into that hole, but you can actually climb back, if you wait for one of these moments when 2B kind of pulls herself together and can sprint and jump for a short period of time, that's when she can climb the ladder
I love this let's play so much, thank you for letting us experience this with you!
This feels like season 2 of a show. Well done
Damn the side quests really do change the atmosphere in the game. The part with the operator felt bland on her playthrough, but since I did the side quest, it was one of the most heartbreaking moments, ya know, when she thanks us for the flower, dam i almost shed a tear.
I love A2. I love 2B. I love this game. Enjoy the game.
I had the same reaction as 9s. First time I saw this. I was like, "Waaaarrarghhh!!!" and them my living room collapsed
Now the real game starts. I was waiting forr this moment! Glad you made it here. When you can, check the right side of the street in the flooded city while playing with 9S. You'll find something interesting... and sad. And another thing, I THINK A2 cutting her hair is like her way to mourn 2B, but it's just my opinion.
I played the game too long ago, what do you find there?
@@corvin_7 2B's ship.
@@combobreaker9618 ah ok I forgot about that tbh
I've finished this game 3 times and I had no idea
same
It boosted their morale because they're born to protect human, without any human means they have no point to exist. Knowing there are still humans on the moon give them purpose to fight and exist.
The YoRHa intel that mentioned Gestalt and Replicants is a reference to the first game. There were other reveals in that intel that explains some things.. won't say them because it's revealed later in the story as well since reading the intel is missable.
Marz: Nothing is going to come between 9S and 2B. Not even a fucking earthquake!
A2: Lmaooooooo
Don't worry about Engels. He was part of a Sidequest. But since every sidequest is unique for certain routes and characters, even though it showed the triangle button, there was no way for you to interact with him in this playthrough anymore until chapter select unlocks.
If you had hacked every marked enemy in the begining part with 9S instead of stopping at 12% there would have been some extra dialogue with 21O.
Also if you had done all siedquests for 6O, there would have been a more dialogue for her while you run for the flight units with the commander. Btw that WAS 6O or rather her voice that was talking to you when the Bunker blew up. It was just because of all the explosions and interference, plus the virus taking over, that her voice got distorted and she sounded like a little girl.
>I don't know what's right or wrong anymore
Yoko Taro's depressed laughter could be faintly heard at that moment
Thank you. Im reliving this game, through you. :)
So spot on, with ya reactions
OMG.. I'm waiting for the next one!! I'm gonna put some popcorn in the MW.. awesome gameplay!!
Woah back to back videos! You're really digging into this game hahaha
That thing that you think is lag is actually hit stop. It's an effect in a lot of melee based action games to emphasize the point of impact of a hit. So there's a very brief pause whenever you hit an enemy. It's just that the effect can become much more apparent and a bit more exaggerated in a game like Automata because you can sometimes end up in situations where you're hitting swarms of enemies causing the game to look like it's moving in slow motion.
Welcome to the S-Storm XD, this game is amazing, some side-quests were missed the first 2 times but they weren't TOO important, one was very good but it won't take away from the game. The one involving the Amnesiac Android wanting to find the killer of her friend.
Hey Marz! I have just found your channel and I just wanted to say that I love your videos, your genuine reactions and personality! It is so refreshing to see you enjoying and playing games that you really want to play. Nier is a true masterpiece! Btw this game story is connected to Drakengard if you want to search a little bit. GLORY TO MANKIND!
Thank u so much for this video Marz :))
24:20 - "She's such a badass. I really miss 2B."
Me, too, Marz. Me, too.
well they are basically the same but with different equipment xD
nooooooo! you should have let him talk lol i love this initial convos between A2 and Pod 042... oh well. Thanks for the amazing vid!
It should start back up when I turn the game back on
Such a great game 👌👌👌💖💖 Also, your perpetual confused look seems like your trademark at this point.
Just a quick tip, always pick up the items and chips the enemies drop. The farther you progress in the game the better chances for high end drops and low slot chips.
I think all of us were waiting for this moment.
Dont worry the "support a2 or 9s" option just means your gonna play sections of route C as each person. It doesnt matter the order. You can just go back and forth between them and you wont miss anything.
Now we see why 210 was treating 9S as a child, it was the machines mocking him.
Keep on going, it will be worth it. The problem is that cause you are sharing your gameplay you´ll also want to entertain us, i think games have to be played at the rythm you feel confortable with and i guess it´s hard in this conditions. But i´ll follow your playthrough Nier: Automata. Cheers
Now that the real game begins
This is amazing. Loved this intensity brb gonna go redo the chapter
That moment I was waiting finally arrived. Now this will be very good.
Loving it so far! Please, please, when yo uplay as 9S, go to the Flooded City and check near the water, near the bridge for a broken flight unit
NieR Automata is one of the best games, I want see more, I can't wait
Thank you for playing , i really want to play it again
I think Operator 210 is talking to 9s that way because she doesn't want to lose him, and last mission they almost did when Eve infected him :( I do wish she had completed more side quests up until this point...missed 80% of side quests :(
lol the look she gives the camera when she says shes gonna support A2
Finally😄😄😄 I've been waiting so long for route c!
holy shit so quickly a new episode? Hell yea!
Love you and love your videos, great work
Marz the legend 👏👏👏👏👏
Like others have said supporting a2 or 9s is just choosing in which order you play things.
I do advise finishing all a2 events first thought
Keep playing!!! the best game I’ve ever played!
Congrats on finally making it past the prologue!
did you play this on console? your game seems to be a little different than mine, just small things like at the end where you had to chose which one you want to support i had a map which showed me the location of the 2. also i had other visual effects during 2B´s infection.
Route C hype! This feel trip is only at the beginning!
You can finish fights much faster if u use pods special attacks.you can also make those special attacks by holding the button fir special attacks down to charge it and make them even stronger.
I'm on route C and its getting crazy. I won't spoil it for you but get ready for the story to really speed up. Good luck 😊
Never seen/played this game before, is this from Platinum games? If yes then how does this compare to their other games like Bayonetta in terms of actual combat depth and design?
It is by Platinum, but it's not as deep as something like Bayonetta, in terms of combat. It was designed to be a little more casual friendly and often puts a heavier focus on the RPG elements, so it's not as tightly designed as a pure action game. It's really more an evolution of the original Nier than a new Bayonetta.
I still had a lot of fun playing it, but I know I've seen hardcore Platinum fans express disappointment. It's best to treat it as its own thing.
Thanks bud! Looked up some more of this game, looks good enough to pick up. For my hack and slash needs, I guess I will just wait for DMC 5.
LOL the end of this episode
non-spoiler explanation of a couple things:
the gestalt/replicant thing is a nod to the previous games, literally called Nier Gestalt, and Nier Replicant.
the yorha thing was basically made to boost the morale of androids fighting in the ground, like anemone and such pretty much, since yorha is kind of a "militarized" thing.
route A and B start at the same time, as you saw they're the same story just from a different point of view, route C is after the end of route A/B.
you were supposed to talk to engels in route A/B, that's a sidequest.
when you were getting your ass whupped: you were getting hacked! not so fun when on the receiving end huh! (hahaha)
your face from half the video onwards, this is why i've followed this whole thing from the start, that face of "what" right there.
anyways, you'll have to support A2 and 9S both. not a spoiler but you have 3 support missions with each, and you can do them in any order, once you finish one you'll get asked to support one, so if you support A2 3 times in a row, then you'll have to do 9S's quests one after the other.
also, not a spoiler, but something you learned or were told in a sidequest or something of the sort, the "red eyes" of machines means they're connected to the machine network, so that's why whenever machines attack you their eyes glow red, and why all the androids got red eyes when hacked, because of the machine network virus.
the A2 hair thing... is symbolic. not a spoiler in itself, but explaining it would mean spoiling some stuff so i'd rather not. can't wait for the next video!
Machines from The Forest Kingdoom or cultists or even Simone also have red eyes and they're cut off from the network. I think it's just a part of machine program that their eyes glow when they're aggresive. And this also applies to infected androids.
Its ok 9s will be fine just play. there's a side quest for 9s but is just available if you got the Emil's side quest... for that was so emotional. :')
And here come the tears...
Lesson learned: Never skip side quests, especially if it will help you level fast. Route C has overleveled enemies. You should've been overleveled once you reach Route C
Emmmmmm yeah!! That was crazy!!!