Can't believe it's taken me so long to watch this one Keith. I've always had a bit of a love/hate relationship with Ogof Rhyd Sych (Cave of the dry ford). First time I went down was about a year after I started caving, we'd been in Ogof Y Ki (Cave of the dog) a bit further up the stream which is a fun little cave and great for novices. It didn't take us long and so we decided to have a look at Rhyd Sych, after two hours in there trying to find the route through the bedding we'd run out of time and had to turn around. Every time I went back I'd get a bit further before having to turn back, either time issues, someone getting scared or someone decided they were too fat to get through. Very frustrating! Fortunately these days it's more roomy. There was a letter in Descent complaining about some vandal using bang to widen the bedding plane. The next month there was a reply from the chap who'd blown it saying it was the only way he could now get through since putting on weight but since he was the bloke who had originally found and surveyed it years earlier he reckoned he had the right, which most people felt was fair enough!
As you will have seen from the video we did this to escape from the wall to wall media coverage of the royal wedding. This was my second visit after I'd swore never to do it again, but after 10 years the memory had faded. We ditched the camera and video stuff at the river chamber not remembering that the final chamber is quite spectacular! Still with another royal wedding imminent and with better video gear now perhaps just one more visit might be on the cards.
I think your comment of loving it and hating it in equal measure also applies perfectly to the caving trip. After the trip we all said we would do it again, but 2 years on no one seems to be in any hurry.
You have to do it to understand it. It is an unbelievable experience really. You feel amazing once you've gotten through a rough spot and it becomes a thrill.
Hi. I guess when you've done the popular caves then go to the little visited ones, you realise why they are little visited. Caves like this certainly get the adrenaline flowing, but when you are out the sense of achievement is fantastic.
This was filmed on my second trip into the cave. The first trip was 10 years previously and after the trip we said that we would never go in the cave again, but the memory of what it was like had faded. This time we took video so that we would never have to go back again, but we didn't video or photograph the last part of the cave so perhaps just one more time.
What do you reckon some of these squeezes are in inches and how long? And how is the air in there? This is a fascinating sport I'm finding out by watching your videos. Thanks for sharing them.
+HeliosWorksAV This cave contains some of the longest and tightest bedding planes I've ever done. There are three of them and I can only guess that in total they amount to two or three hundred feet. They really are flat out and in places only about 12 inches tall. The air quality is fine in this cave.
Hi Rowen. I've not done it, maybe one for after the lockdown? Other Club members have been in the cave. There are some photos here - www.ogof.org.uk/ogof-y-ci.html
@@CaverKeith thanks for the reply. I was born in Trefechan the village below and never knew these caves existed. With Ogof Rhyd Sych, how far can you walk in through the entrance without climbing and sliding through caves also no deep water.
Hi Rowan. Not very far. Only about 20 metres. This is really nice walking-sized stream passage with stalactites and calcite flowstone on the walls. This passage ends abruptly at a low duck which requires a thorough soaking to get through. After this the cave becomes quite horrible with muddy crawls and flat-out bedding planes. There are no hazards in the entrance passage. It really is quite pleasant.
@@CaverKeith thanks again for the reply. Will check out the entrance of the cave. Have you done Ogof Tee - Ogof Cil Sanws? Sorry for all the questions 😃
I’m sorry but how do you guys not get lost in all these caves you go in?? I’ve seen many possible passages throughout your videos and never see anyone worried about getting lost ... do you guys always have maps or something?
Ideally you go with someone who's been before, but in Britain there are guide books with surveys and a description of what to expect which cover the various caving regions. Here's a link to some: www.inglesport.com/product-category/cave/books-publications-surveys/guide-books/ Quite often the route is fairly obvious, e.g. following the stream way or in popular caves you can see where others have gone before (smooth rock, the odd boot print, etc.). But sometimes the way on isn't obvious (you learn to look both above and below), but with experience you get a feel for how caves develop and the most likely places to look for the passage on. Feeling a draft is always a good indication that a passage leads somewhere. Or the sound of running water. If we reach a large chamber we spread out and hunt for the route on. If you here an excited shout of "It's drafting!" that usually indicates someone has found the way on. Of course sometimes we do go the wrong way, but it usually becomes obvious pretty quickly that you've made a wrong turn as the passage looks unused or is heading the wrong way, closes down, etc. When this happens we turn around and keep out eyes peeled for a side passage that we over looked. Basically the thing to do is not panic and use a bit of logic. Worst case you just turn around and retrace your steps. A good technique is to periodically stop and look behind you, particular at each junction. That way it's easier to recognise the way back out.
if i done this, i'd want to take a fucking jack hammer with me, thats if i could handle the claustrophobia, sheer panic job this, i think i'll stay on the surface after all
I'm not really sure how I came across this video but I loved and hated it in equal measure. I loved the scenery and admire your passion and mental strength but personally I hate even the idea of all that enclosed space and tight crawling. Be safe.
Kudos to the footage/video. I really liked the combination of stills and video together with the music.
Can't believe it's taken me so long to watch this one Keith. I've always had a bit of a love/hate relationship with Ogof Rhyd Sych (Cave of the dry ford). First time I went down was about a year after I started caving, we'd been in Ogof Y Ki (Cave of the dog) a bit further up the stream which is a fun little cave and great for novices.
It didn't take us long and so we decided to have a look at Rhyd Sych, after two hours in there trying to find the route through the bedding we'd run out of time and had to turn around. Every time I went back I'd get a bit further before having to turn back, either time issues, someone getting scared or someone decided they were too fat to get through. Very frustrating!
Fortunately these days it's more roomy. There was a letter in Descent complaining about some vandal using bang to widen the bedding plane. The next month there was a reply from the chap who'd blown it saying it was the only way he could now get through since putting on weight but since he was the bloke who had originally found and surveyed it years earlier he reckoned he had the right, which most people felt was fair enough!
As you will have seen from the video we did this to escape from the wall to wall media coverage of the royal wedding. This was my second visit after I'd swore never to do it again, but after 10 years the memory had faded. We ditched the camera and video stuff at the river chamber not remembering that the final chamber is quite spectacular! Still with another royal wedding imminent and with better video gear now perhaps just one more visit might be on the cards.
I guess you are right. I can't say it's pleasant but there's a real sense of achievement when you get through.
Fantastic footage and editing! not easy underground!
Thanks. It is one of my favourite videos.
I think your comment of loving it and hating it in equal measure also applies perfectly to the caving trip. After the trip we all said we would do it again, but 2 years on no one seems to be in any hurry.
Woow, iv been to some small places in my explores, i must say i couldn't do that!
great video
I've only done this trip twice - the second time was to make this video. I probably will not be going back!
You have to do it to understand it. It is an unbelievable experience really. You feel amazing once you've gotten through a rough spot and it becomes a thrill.
Hi. I guess when you've done the popular caves then go to the little visited ones, you realise why they are little visited. Caves like this certainly get the adrenaline flowing, but when you are out the sense of achievement is fantastic.
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make.
That's so cool! I wish I did more caving stuff... I'm definitely subscribing! I just love videos like this one.
Gosh you're sooooo brave going in there!! Well done i would have had a right panic attack! 😩
This was filmed on my second trip into the cave. The first trip was 10 years previously and after the trip we said that we would never go in the cave again, but the memory of what it was like had faded. This time we took video so that we would never have to go back again, but we didn't video or photograph the last part of the cave so perhaps just one more time.
I can't wait for the Spring, then I'll be in there, looks great. It has everything, a cave with no hard bits aren't worth doing!
Definitely one for a dry day in the Spring. We must go back sometime and complete the video.
Make of this what you will. These people are traversing the inner workings of a 'rather large' fossilised carcass.
Really well put together filming and editing. Very engaging :o)
Amazing mental stamina to do stuff like that! Good watch thanks.
What do you reckon some of these squeezes are in inches and how long? And how is the air in there? This is a fascinating sport I'm finding out by watching your videos. Thanks for sharing them.
+HeliosWorksAV This cave contains some of the longest and tightest bedding planes I've ever done. There are three of them and I can only guess that in total they amount to two or three hundred feet. They really are flat out and in places only about 12 inches tall. The air quality is fine in this cave.
Have you attempted Ogof Y Ci which is further up from this one and do you have any video footage? 😀
Hi Rowen. I've not done it, maybe one for after the lockdown? Other Club members have been in the cave. There are some photos here - www.ogof.org.uk/ogof-y-ci.html
@@CaverKeith thanks for the reply. I was born in Trefechan the village below and never knew these caves existed. With Ogof Rhyd Sych, how far can you walk in through the entrance without climbing and sliding through caves also no deep water.
Hi Rowan. Not very far. Only about 20 metres. This is really nice walking-sized stream passage with stalactites and calcite flowstone on the walls. This passage ends abruptly at a low duck which requires a thorough soaking to get through. After this the cave becomes quite horrible with muddy crawls and flat-out bedding planes. There are no hazards in the entrance passage. It really is quite pleasant.
@@CaverKeith thanks again for the reply. Will check out the entrance of the cave. Have you done Ogof Tee - Ogof Cil Sanws? Sorry for all the questions 😃
Yes but only once. There are photos of me in it on the web. From my recollection it's quite muddy throughout.
imagine someone having a asthma attacking in the bedding plane
oh my god, why would you want to do that? apart from seeing the formations what are the positives of this?
The challenge, going places very few people have ever been, pure adventure and the formations.
That small muddy chamber is the stuff of nightmare.
I’m sorry but how do you guys not get lost in all these caves you go in?? I’ve seen many possible passages throughout your videos and never see anyone worried about getting lost ... do you guys always have maps or something?
Fabulous videos btw as always ;)
Ideally you go with someone who's been before, but in Britain there are guide books with surveys and a description of what to expect which cover the various caving regions. Here's a link to some:
www.inglesport.com/product-category/cave/books-publications-surveys/guide-books/
Quite often the route is fairly obvious, e.g. following the stream way or in popular caves you can see where others have gone before (smooth rock, the odd boot print, etc.). But sometimes the way on isn't obvious (you learn to look both above and below), but with experience you get a feel for how caves develop and the most likely places to look for the passage on. Feeling a draft is always a good indication that a passage leads somewhere. Or the sound of running water.
If we reach a large chamber we spread out and hunt for the route on. If you here an excited shout of "It's drafting!" that usually indicates someone has found the way on. Of course sometimes we do go the wrong way, but it usually becomes obvious pretty quickly that you've made a wrong turn as the passage looks unused or is heading the wrong way, closes down, etc. When this happens we turn around and keep out eyes peeled for a side passage that we over looked.
Basically the thing to do is not panic and use a bit of logic. Worst case you just turn around and retrace your steps. A good technique is to periodically stop and look behind you, particular at each junction. That way it's easier to recognise the way back out.
Litlle eartquake, and horror
Earth quakes are extremely rare in Britain.
if i done this, i'd want to take a fucking jack hammer with me, thats if i could handle the claustrophobia, sheer panic job this, i think i'll stay on the surface after all
where was this? i have been looking for caves and this might be a place i'd like to go.
@dcrtuk Couldn't have said it better myself. Caving Rules!
I'm not really sure how I came across this video but I loved and hated it in equal measure.
I loved the scenery and admire your passion and mental strength but personally I hate even the idea of all that enclosed space and tight crawling.
Be safe.
This is stupid.Why would anyone do this?This can’t be fun.Hey guys lets go into a cave and get wet and muddy and get stuck and suffocate to death.