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Killswitch Engage - The Arms of Sorrow [OFFICIAL VIDEO]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ต.ค. 2009
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LYRICS
Imprisoned inside this mind
Hiding behind the empty smiles
So simple (the anguish)
As it mocks me
Crawling back into the dark
Running, always running, into the distance
Stop me before I bleed, again
The echoes of my voice
Follow me down
The shadows I cast
Follow me down
Deeper I'm falling
Into the arms of sorrow
Blindly descending
Into the arms of sorrow
There must be serenity
The echoes of my voice
Follow me down
The shadows I cast
Follow me down
Deeper I'm falling
Into the arms of sorrow
Blindly descending
Into the arms of sorrow
The demon of my own design
This horror must not remain
Tear these walls down.
Deeper I'm falling
Into the arms of sorrow
Blindly descending
Into the arms of sorrow
There must be serenity
There must be deliverance
Deeper I'm falling
Blindly descending
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Thank you for all the support!
Love you're contribution to this world from talent given by God to bless ppl such as myself with joy of the beauty of music!🌹🌬🐸🌟😇
I saw you when I was 15, that was 12 years ago. I still listen to all your albums to this day! We love you, man! Thank you for giving us this music, there's nobody that can sing like you!
Man, I hope you realise that you have most beautiful voice in metalcore ;)
Are you the real guy?
If so: You rock like an angel of metal and purity and I hope you keep rocking! You are sehr awesome and it would be a shame if your voice went away from emotional metal songs like this.
Just came after The safety of disbelief, your voice is nothing but magnificent
Howard Jones, in my opinion, has one of the most powerful voices in metalcore
You spelled universe wrong
@RandolTheFox LP is not metalcore or metal bro. Also Chester had a good voice but imo LP was only good in hybrid theory and meteora. Would have been cool if he was in a metal band tho.
@Good Krypollo I just said they were never metal lol and never said he did have the range Howard does
One of the best voices in music.
I love chester and miss him, but he was a really overrated singer. They're are a lot of talented singer/screamers out there with more range than him
Dude could lead people into battle with a voice like that
Into an already lost battle*
💘
Damn right mate,,,and I would have follow him☝️💯😎
If I could choose who to sound like as a metal singer, Howard's voice would definitely be in the top 3.
To HELL and beyond my Lord!!!!
The guitars are like crashing waves and his voice is just gracefully sailing through it
Wonderfully said
LOVE this metaphor... underrated comment.. howie doesnt get enough credit.
Just like the guy falling. Fate gives you a cookie and diabetes and you decide to throw yourself down a burning building to save yourself while everyone else is just unmoved by the crazy and danger around. Not alife.
Howard's voice is haunting. Such great range. Miss him with Killswitch Engage.
The only band worth mentioning with switched singers and still annihilated these tracks . Usually a band loses its taste when the singers switch. Not here
Why did he leave anyway
@@jasondixon7548 wanted to start his own group he actually has one with Jared Dines called Sion look it up an amazing collab
@@chrismusiclover9893 his group is called light the torch.
He has diabetes
2020, god this song doesn't get old.
I completely agree with you! This song and this whole album is a masterpiece and it will never get old!
Nope it doesn't how can u not jam to this song
this album gets better with age!
At 37, im kinda sad that i still rely on all these classics.
Is it me that fell away from rock?
Or is it rock that has seemed to have faded and not what it used to be?
✊😔 either way i seemed fucked.
Smile empty soul
Killswitch engage
Mudvayne
Ill nino
Adema
Static X
Sevendust
P.O.D.
Mad at Gravity
My memories are fading..and i fear in time i will forget even the few bands that i can list now. And my soul will be empty and void long before my grave 6 feet deep is dug.
Howard Jones inspired me to seek vocal lessons. Growing up in the South I was never encouraged to pursue “metal” music or its’ many sub-genres. I was viewed as “black” and was teased for listening to anything “outside of my culture.” Whether people like it or not that was an unfortunate part of growing up in my area of Louisiana. However, after discovering the lead singer of KSE was a person of color my outlook in this genre was forever changed. I’m 32 now and am just starting out learning the very basics of singing and vocal control. Had it not been for Howard, I wouldn’t be trying this singing thing at all. So thanks for being an inspiration to me. To anyone else who’s going through a cultural or societal backlash for your choice in music….chase it anyway…relentlessly. 🤟🏾
Cheers 🤟🤟
Rock on brother
💜💜💜
Nah he's so good he should make you want to give up, what's the point :D
His vocals are very powerful !
Coming back to this song so many years later, and the first few guitar notes are making the hairs on my arms stand on end in anticipation.
I loved this era.
hows crusty doing
Hell yes man. I'm with ya on that!!!
Tight! Tight! Tight! Tight!
I love you dude
Where I was I heard this and saw damn I'm better
Howard is a great singer. His voice is magical
+Levi Sisk his voice is beautiful
+Levi Sisk Man, I came here to try to stop the Howard and Jesse Shennanigans but you're right, Howard is a great vocalist.
exactly
+Levi Sisk kultakurkku = goldthroat
+ajkorras or golden cucumber XD
this song is a beautiful metaphor for depression.
Well observed. Totally agree.
Yep...
No wonder why i like the song so much
Or grief. Or regret.
Still beautiful, that solo, though!!!!
It’s one of the most beautiful songs ever written. Lyrics and melody wise.
This song gives me chills after all these years... true metalcore perfection
True 💙
You and me both brotha.
2011 me would be happy we’re still here
Golden era of metal Core 🥲
I miss those days
Try Break The Silence, the love child of My Curse & The Arms of Sorrow. Then proceed with Daylight Dies, Reject Yourself and This is Absolution, exactly in that order
Howard is insane! Not to many in the entire music industry can compare to power he puts behind the lyrics!! It takes so much control to be able to sing with that much force and still hold all the melodic notes so beautifully. The man is nothing short of a Jedi of his craft!
Life was simple in the days I first found Killswitch
You ain’t lying. Your comment resonated with me too. I was much younger then and didn’t have a care in the world.
Same
Same , wish we could all go back
fuck the life up! life is shit! memories are killing me...
i found it on a amv, th-cam.com/video/lo-YtaDHeIY/w-d-xo.html amv back in day.. one could find anything
people will disagree but. in my opinion. there is NO ONE else in metal who has harmonized beautiful clean vocals with heavy distorted music quite the way Howard did with Killswitch. amazing
facts
This is why I love kill switch engage so much especially with Howard singing.
Nail on the head! My favorite metal singer!
I had to double check I didn't write this comment as it's exactly how I feel. Man. I love Howard so much.
Agreed. Probably the most versatile male vocalist I've heard yet next to Mike Patton
Howards' voice is one that is immediately recognizable even if you can't see who's singing. 🤟
2024, KILLSWITCH!!!!!! We miss you Howard
I know that Jesse and Howard were always main dudes when it came to vocals,but can we just appreciate Adam's great backup vocals?
Amen to that.
Yeah he is really good
Absolutely love it yeah!
Adam produced Parkway Drives first 2 albums. Dude is a beast all across the board
THANK YOU!!!!!! Deeperrrr I’m fallin blindly descendinggggg
The whole video you think he's jumped to kill himself, but he's actually jumping to save himself from the fire while everyone else is clueless of what's happening around them... damn.
I always try to find comments like this in every KsE music video just to remind myself of how talented this band is
but why did he jump with a bag of oranges and apples?
@@ModPCLM because he valued his life more than the groceries he just brought home
i did not even realize this holy cow...
No the fire was on the building next to it the moral of this is to show how much goes by in the time that it can take for someone to have their life pass. But good theory
Probably the most emotional song of theirs, this song just absolutely destroyed me when I first heard it. Perfectly captured how I felt- just wrecked with depression. Things are all good these days, but still nice to re-listen to this and go through it all again in a way. Kind of releases the remnents of those feelings
Exactly how I'm listening to it right now. Hope things are still going okay for you
I relate to this comment so much
can relate
Im glad you overcame 🙏 howard has brought me solidarity, and a peace of heart and soul. Glad we can all come together in his music 🙌🤝
Same, I wish Jesse would write darker songs like this.
When Howard first took over vocals, I remember a rather large contingent of "fans" were super toxic and hated it.
Years later, people want more Howard and often say his vocals led the band at their most accessible, their best.
They were best with Howard. I loved it at the time and now
@@LibertyFixxxer I do enjoy jesse, but Howard is irreplaceable
I don´t know Killswitch with any other vocals, so I have no frame of reference. However, I will say this: I totally agree his vocals are distinct, and a beautiful fit to the band. I probably wouldn´t listen to this style of music if the vocals were more "generic" with regards to the genre
I love Killswitch with either singer and honestly wish Howard and Jesse were both in the band at the same time.
The Signal Fire is amazing!
I personally only started listening to them with Howard as the first vocalist just didn't do anything at all
I will forever amazed by his vocal range. His clean voice is something that can never be matched. Phenomenal singer. Shame he is no longer in KSE.
He formed a new band.
Acedia Accidie woah woah woah what??? What's the name of it
The band's name is DEVIL YOU KNOW and they have a cover of Eye of the tiger hehe.
Loki Mirazita Why?
Freak Scene yes some them ..they kik ass.....the cover ia great
This album has aged so well.
Howard's voice and lyrics are so powerful and moving. I stumbled upon KSE when he was the vocalist and have been a KSE fan ever since. Jesse is a darn good singer as well but Howard will always be my favorite part of KSE.
What else could you ask for in a song? Howard killed this. The emotion!!
Dedicated to my late wife Nicole Rae... my heartache never ends my sweet thing...mother of my beloved child...we will reunite someday...I promise...please look after me...cause I'm a mess... 4EVER
I don't know your story but nevertheless stay strong man
@@xthecrazy3548 thank u for caring enough to reply...thx a lot...
@@scottyjones4428 No problem bro, i gotchu
They say time heals all wounds, but truthfully it only makes it a little less easier to live without your loved ones that you lost. I hope everything goes good for you man. I know it's going to be hard for a long time, but it will get easier. I'll keep you and your children in my prayers.
@@BriannaGeesaman thx so much Breezy Bree. It means a lot that u took the time to talk to me. GOD bless u hun. ++
This song has the most beautiful Intro ever.Period.
Hearts burst in to fire by Bullet for my Valentine might come close.
i'm sorry but My curse does have the best intro ;)
+kamerik73 true
personally the most chill calming beautiful intro (to a heavy af song) belongs to Born of Osiris - Follow the Signs...
The outro in the last minute of this song is incredible too, probably my favourite ever actually.
This was the first KsE song I ever heard and they’ve been one of my top bands since!
2021 🎧🎶
every day
Yessir
Any time fits
Killswitch forever!
June babies
Damn did my miserable life drift away so quickly. I remember listening to this when I was 10 years old. I’m 24 now.
Life goes on so effortlessly.
I’m so thankful to have discovered good metal bands like Killswitch and Lamb of God at a young age.
yeah man. 14 years old rn, this shit is better than any other rap song. good metal is the best.
Same. I remember this song In 2010 and it just came across my mind and I’m 25 now
24....damn kiddo you have plenty of time , at 42 I saw KSE from beginning, at 33 I went through hell , again recently. So head up and fight on
I would like but it's at 69
and As I Lay Dying... remembering my junior high school days 😅😭
Howard’s clean business casual appearance is so underrated!! I mean it’s obvious why it would be because literally everything about this video and song is on another level of amazing.
We are so lucky to get to experience this type of music growing up. 16 then 33 now
“There was nothing wrong with Killswitch or the relationship. Everything was wrong with me. I was going insane. It never occured to me to get help. For years, I just tried to fight through it and I was driving those guys beserk. My anxiety was building and building, and near the end, there were a lot of times I’d sit in the back of the bus or lay in my bunk for hours on end without speaking to anyone. Even the idea of having to do a meet and greet freaked me out.”
This is why Howard left
Yeah, I know how that feels....
I can relate. You can also see a lot of his anxiety struggles through his lyrics.
Thank you, I've always wanted to know.
but then he joined Devil You Know so...
+Dominick Ferrara a much smaller band. KSE with Howard was huge. Selling out massive venues. DYK plays small shows in little venues and that's all he ever wanted. The fame and thousands of people were killing him. Poor guy.
this singer is legit one of the best in metal history. common guys, can you really argue against this? the lyrics, the vocals, the different pitches/tones.....record breaking.
Howard Jones is amazing, for sure.
Best in metal history for me, he’s unbelievable. Can listen to him all day without being bored
This guy was their best singer imo..
This is very real old school metalcore we ever listen back in the mid or late 2000s!
This song is something else. As a band, I think they tapped into some feelings and ways of expressing emotions that are beyond mosts ability to comprehend. Amazing song. Truly masterful.
Yeah.
Yeah this song saved my life
The lyrics are about depression, the man is jumping because of his sorrow, but others can interpret it as jumping to save himself from the fire. However I believe that the fire is a representation of his sorrow, and he's trying to escape it. Some of the apartment occupants may also represent his sorrow, with the girlfriend slapping her boyfriend symbolizing a broken relationship and the jump rope hitting his foot representing imperfection.
what about the old dude cutting the wood out of the window. maybe not knowing what he's doing?
The old dude is his boyfriend.
ew
I’m glad someone analyzed the video... it also looks like the... symbolic persona jumping off the building decided it wanted to live after all, on the way down.. and ultimately climbed out of the water.
Man I want this song to be the anthem of my life. I have Asperger’s syndrome and this hits HARD. “Imprisoned inside this mind.” “The echoes of my voice follow me down.” and “Running, always running into the distance.” Are all exactly what i feel and say to myself sometimes. I get through it though. I’m trying to use it as an asset instead of a detriment in my life. That strategy has been working so far. Thank you Killswitch Engage for making a song that talks about wanting to try and atone from your past mistakes and do better. This is amazing. Truly, thank you guys.
This comment is beautiful brotha. Definitely not getting enough attention. Someone has atoned for your past mistakes. Take comfort in that.
Had to deal 20 years with depression... made it out thankfully, but always use this song to explain others how depression feels like.
Adam should sing more, his voice is realy good
Have you checked out Times of Grace? He sings a lot in their one album The Hymn of a Broken Man.
+Cecil Williams I've listened the album when it came out a few times, you can say it sounds pretty much like KSE since that Adam and Jesse are in the band haha, Adam's parts in that album are awesome, his voice along with Jesses's and Howard's fits very well, it would be realy good to see him singin an entire song.
Yeah. I thought so to. He has good cleans.
I'm most impressed with him winning The Price is Right. th-cam.com/video/lmWJu25zdI8/w-d-xo.html
I totally agree! Unfortunately, Adam thinks his voice sucks. He's said it in a few interviews, that's why he tries not to sing too much.
I’ve been listening to this song over and over again. And I can’t get enough. I’m going through so much in my life and I’m happy that I found this song. I can relate. This song is so beautiful. It says a lot. Thank you, Killswitch Engage. Thank you.
Same....
I can feel you sister...
I can feel you sis ...
One of the coolest KSE songs, simply for the time signature. All over the place. This is one of their best written songs
Howard is the shit!!
I remember when I was first getting into metal back when I was around 14/15 and I was randomly browsing the On Demand music videos and I kept randomly checking out each band listed and when I got to KSE, it was this video and it blew me away. I was used to hearing very harsh metal vocal stylings (a friend of mine introduced me to bands like Korn and Disturbed to get me into metal and while not "harsh" vocalists, they weren't very smooth clean vocalists) but the smoothness and richness of Howard's voice drew me in and how it seemed to have a never ending well of power. The guitars soared and had such a crisp sound to the riffs and the drums carried that resonance with a crashing force. To top it all off, Adam D's background vox is fucking amazing. The part around 1:54-2:05 where he does back-up for Howard is haunting. I hold KSE with Howard in such high regard when it comes to my introduction into this music still to this day.
Dude. I did the same exact shit.
*inserts Samuel L. Jackson "My niggah" meme*
I didn't read any of that.
my favorite song is in 14/15 time
man i can't agree more! from like 1:50 until the end i just want to hear it over and over
That's actually the same way I found this song via on demand but it was more of deysroy everything by hatebree that got me
this song brings back so good memories
+Kalle Virtanen discovered this band in 2007 after a break up of many years. this band helped get through it. been a fan ever since.
@@beardownx2006 2 years and i havent listend this song.. and the reason i have wanted to listen this song but have not, because this remindes me of my ex girlfriend... and still bring good and sad memories.
Jup
Still probably one of the best Metalcore songs of all time !
No matter how many metalcore albums and band i discover and enjoy, killswitch engage will hold the title of "best metalcore band ever" for me till the end of eternity.
Imprisoned, inside this mind
Hiding behind the empty smiles
So simple (the anguish)
As it mocks me
Crawling back into the dark
Running, always running, into the distance
Stop me before I bleed, again
The echoes of my voice
Follow me down
The shadows I cast
Follow me down
Deeper I'm falling
Into the arms of sorrow
Quickly descending
Into the arms of sorrow
There must be serenity
The echoes of my voice
Follow me down
The shadows I cast
Follow me down
Deeper I'm falling
Into the arms of sorrow
Blindly descending
Into the arms of sorrow
The demons of my own design
This horror must not remain
Deeper I'm falling
Into the arms of sorrow
Blindly descending
Into the arms of sorrow
There must be serenity
There must be deliverance
Deeper I'm falling
Blindly descending
Deeper I'm falling
Thanks bro
I introduced this to a black coworker. He was speechless. These guys are awesome. I wished they would get the recognition they deserve
I wish they would take Howard back
Introduce them to Sevendust now
" you're black right? check this out!!"
@@larry90944 Shut up "Ricky"
@@larry90944 haha
The End of 2021 and this song still smacks.............."deeper I'm falling"
This song has literally helped save my life. I always come back to it when I'm feeling lower than ever and it somehow lifts me up everytime. The lyrics are hard to not cry and sing along to
I don’t know what it means to you but 10 years ago I was imprisoned and hiding behind everything. The arms of sorrow held me for a long time. Now in 2020 I can hear this song with no sorrows left in my heart, and I’m feeling good and redeemed.
thats cute uugh
And normies still think metal is just a worthless noise....damn
2021 anyone still listening??🤘🏻
Been had.
Fuck off with that year shit!
@@Derazed85 Calm down 😕
2021 🖤🤘
Always
Killswitch is a metal band with emotion, unique riffs & those goddamn cleans !!
One of my most favorite vocalists I had the absolute pleasure to meet and hear in concert a few times! I miss you 🫶
10 years this November! Where the did the time go my dudes!?
Upate: It's 2023, Lord Jesus HELP us all!
yeah! almost ten years or more, can't tell right now :)
Amen... time goes by too soon.
EQOAnostalgia
can't believe it's been that long, fuck
some of us are a buncha old bastards.
Life was simple these days. Wish I could go back to the days riding home from school on a Friday with this in my headphones.
Agree
Its 2021, still listening to this and still missing Howard!!!!! He truly has an amazing voice and one that KSE needs to get back!!!!!
Who That's Literning To This Song 2024 Raise Your Hand Everybody I'm Saying This Never Old Song Forever
Ladies and gentlemen, this was the song that got me hooked to this band. Jessie has the emotion behind the song but Howard has the voice. Cant wait for their upcoming song together
I love both Howard and Jesse. They each contributed something unique during their respective times with the band. And besides - KSE kicks ass whoever is doing vocals - sheesh.
Yeah, as long as its one of them
It’s 2024 and he’s still falling from the building
Endless Cycle for him 😔
Adam's guitar work is unparalleled in memorability and beauty. I don't even have to mention Howard's skill, but I will. My heart can't handle the passion and power from his delivery. This song is immaculate.
Alive or Just Breathing, The End of Heartache and THIS ALBUM, As Daylight Dies, soo underated, people forgot about this, arms of sorrow, still gives me chills. My curse, break the silence. The whole album is clutch.
hellll ya
Agreed
Amen jesse is a beast.
AoJB is still my favorite by these guys but As Daylight Dies is definitely my second-favorite. It's almost as if the band was aiming at making it a sequel to AoJB, because a lot of the material has similar structuring, but adds a different feel to it with Howard's vocals.
It is in my honest opinion that no KsE album will ever touch "As Daylight Dies."
Quite possibly top 5 most beautiful metal song ever written. The melody and vocals mixing with everything is, simply put, amazing.
Damn. This still holds up over a decade later. Timeless KSE & quintessential melodic metal
I can totally relate to this song. These guys kill it. Been a fan of killswitch for a long time. never gets old
The voice of Adam is just... That make me dream. Really amazing ! His voice is just perfect with Howard voice !
Couldn't agree with you more. Adam has one of the most amazing voices. Obviously Howard does too but Adam is underrated.
I can't get enough. It makes me feel so much. I love this album and this band, as I did in High School when I first heard them. I am only now getting into them again years later.
I can still remember walking down a crowded hallway blasting this song through my earbuds. This is probably my favorite album from KSE but all their others are good, too. I need to listen to the others more but I just love this one so much I give it unequal attention.
I remember when I was 15 and found out my dad died this album got me through. At 31 it’s still just as beautiful. Thank you KSE thank you Howard
One of the best vocal frontend to date. Never off my playlist. Seen several times with Howard. Now my 9yr old loves Killswitch Engage. Defo a reunion needed
Do u imagine KSE with both... Howard at clean vocals and Jessie Screaming?? MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
check out the album The End Of Heartache
It's happening on their new album
Howard’s screams and cleans are better
@@user-no6xi8wr6j Jesse is a far better screamer live, Howard is far better at clean.
Killswitch Engage - Signal Fire. You're welcome.
Where it all began for me. I didnt even realize he was a replacement and then I heard Jesse, then came The Signal Fire. I'm so happy to have gotten into this band.
Legendary song
killswitch will always be a part of my life
This was my MySpace song.
mine too XD
It was my Bebo song haha
Good one boomer 😁
Hahaha good choice. Mine was stay captive by still remains
What the frick is a myspace
One of the best songs KsE made! So many memories to this song, they all come back as if I'm right there again. Badass!
Your music is heaven
One of the best songs of it’s era.
If u want to listen to Howard now, look up Light the Torch. That’s his new band
Just for the people who didn’t know
I knew that voice sounded familiar
His band after KSE was pretty good too. Devil You Know
@@thedankone4737 Quick question. Isn't Light The Torch the same band as Devil You Know, just under a different name or am I wrong?
MasterWithEyesOfBlue333 nope you’re right
You fucking legend!
i remember when i listened killswitch engage long tim ago with so much passion, after some years I listen this and I keep saying, this dudes have my ears and soul for the rest of my life. vocalist's voice is magical
The nostalgia listening to this song again after awhile is real 🙌🏽 Killswitch engage is amazing loved their music for years 😌
New years 2023 and this song came on 20 minutes after midnight. Still rocks hard enough to make me forget the sorrows
"imprisoned inside this mind, hiding behind the empty smiles"
sums up my life.
So many years has passed and i still getting tears in my eyes for every time that i hear this song... A combinatiin of a very powerful voice and very powerful words that penetrate the stomach straight into the heart!
i feel you
Adam's voice 😍
2023 this song still makes me tear up. Depression is a real thing, so many thoughts running through our minds when we get depressed but thank God there is a solution. Suicide is not the answer. You will make it through!!
The Power in Howard's voice can not be replicated. He is truly one of the best Metalcore Vocalists
this song is so beautiful it makes me cry for some reason
I will forever love this song. I can't explain how many times I've sunk and gotten back up with heartfelt songs such as this. Forever a Killswitch fan.
I thank God for the the incredible musicianship and lyricism of this band. It has and continues to get me through so much
Howard's clean singing sounds good, I love it.
his voice is mighty yet full of pain
Still my favorite Killswitch song, just a pure masterpiece.
I never really listened to killswitch engaged in the 2000's when i was a teen 2003-2009 , now at 33 I really appreciate killswitch engaged there are some great songs here ! this song is great and howard killed it !
Howard Jones voice is the greatest thing to ever happen to KSE and Metal Core. Is screams and more particularly his cleans are just incredible. IMHO this is KSE's best song.
I mean, this might be the most beautiful metal song ever written.
Was not ready for how much this holds up.
This song has far more meaning to me now that I have lost my father to a freak accident on September 27th... RIP dad, you will be forever loved by all of us!!!
KsE is fucking awesome.howard or jesse it doesn't matter to me,they are both great.they both have there strengths vocally.lyrically is whats more important to me and they both grab me by my fucking soul.I Love this band.