Crimewatch Redux - The Murder of Christoph Schliack (1989)

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  • @DarkStar-wu9nq
    @DarkStar-wu9nq ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love the way you have put them all together . I don’t like having to search for other episodes so I really thank you for making these available in one location
    Thank you

  • @bettydamnboop3030
    @bettydamnboop3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Older crime shows are still the best.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm sure the victims are thrilled!

    • @448bubble
      @448bubble ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm loving these!

  • @Paddyboro
    @Paddyboro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Thank you for uploading this, I look forward to watching the other redux versions too. Genuinely appreciated, I need diversion at the minute.

    • @futureisgosub
      @futureisgosub  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Will be uploading more shortly

    • @priteshpatel1312
      @priteshpatel1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@futureisgosub we need the missing Crimewatch files

  • @annonimouse170
    @annonimouse170 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Only discovered your channel a couple of days ago, I'm loving these 'full' Crimewatch stories, they are incredibly well made. I like how you've 'stitched' the original Crimewatch coverage onto the start too. Thankyou for your hard work.
    As for this episode, six years? That's an absolute insult.

  • @maxine4898
    @maxine4898 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So sad, that poor man didn’t deserve that, the thug that killed him in such an horrific way should have been locked up for the rest of his life

  • @francescaruby1150
    @francescaruby1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for posting these. I’m really enjoying them .

  • @johnryan2193
    @johnryan2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    What a sad ending to this lovely man's life . May you rest in peace Christof.

    • @abigailfreeman715
      @abigailfreeman715 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sadly, taking strange men back to his apartment, was his undoing. Seems he had a drink problem, and made poor judgement. It’s a pity, because he was an intelligent, harmless, lonely man.

    • @glamdolly30
      @glamdolly30 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@abigailfreeman715 Yes it's a common theme with lonely, middle aged gay men sadly. I just saw the similar case of a headmaster tortured and killed by two rent boys. They too served paltry prison terms and were back on the streets in just a few years. Horrific to think they are likely walking free right now.

    • @abigailfreeman715
      @abigailfreeman715 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@glamdolly30 yes, I am just watching that episode of Ron Harrison. Very sad. Typically gay men feel they need to hide their sexuality, and so invite dodgy people into their homes, when it would be safer to visit a brothel. I can’t imagine being home, and inviting strangers inside for relations. Such a risky business. Your home is your haven, and you should never invite the devil in.

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love these old episodes!

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for posting!

  • @fourlanterns1405
    @fourlanterns1405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    There is very little information online about Schliach’s death and where there is, it is presented with a variety of spellings and renderings of his name and as an “unsolved”, likely homophobic, murder from days gone by. Turns out they did catch the guy, but the punishment didn’t fit the crime. Thank you for uploading this so that what happened to Schliach is on record today.

    • @TF80s
      @TF80s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Six years for that animal was a disgrace...I'd love to get a follow up on all the crimes he's commited since getting released. I'd say the list is endless.

    • @glamdolly30
      @glamdolly30 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TF80s Agreed, British justice is a joke - if he'd committed this murder in America he'd have died in prison - exactly as he should. He will always be dangerous.

  • @swineheartdoppleganger5516
    @swineheartdoppleganger5516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Shame none of his colleagues or boss questioned him why he was always off work. first sign of an addiction that always wanting time of work. it's a sign of a gambling, alcohol or drug addiction.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes but everyone went to the pub in the afternoon back then. It wasn't considered a drink problem. More a run of the mill activity

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A sign of how much things have changed. Easy to forget that this was last century. People were much more judgemental and condemnatory back then, and there was a huge stigma to mental health issues. And a lot of people were borderline alcoholics themselves! Heavy drinking was pretty much accepted.

    • @italianstallion9170
      @italianstallion9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zeddeka especially law and financial industry..

  • @mytartanbahrain
    @mytartanbahrain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So...he was released 28 years ago... Wonder if he ended up back inside or dead.

  • @carlzeiss4871
    @carlzeiss4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A police woman sees a man walking towards her with blood on his face and clothes and does nothing? Surely that is gross incompetence. I hope that she was at least disciplined for this neglect of duty.

    • @meredithisme3752
      @meredithisme3752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Female cops unfortunately aren't there on merit

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree, an officer has an obligation to step up when they come onto a situation like this. To see a man covered in blood and not ask him what happened boggles my mind, She could have led to the solving of the murder, if doing nothing more than alerting on duty police about him immediately. I'm thinking he would have run, but good chance they'd have caught him due to his injury.

    • @scallopohare9431
      @scallopohare9431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      She was off duty, and he could have simply had a nosebleed. No, we do not stop passers by just because they look odd.

    • @ShaneBulls
      @ShaneBulls ปีที่แล้ว +12

      She WAS OFF duty.!!

    • @rs-qt1qg
      @rs-qt1qg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ShaneBullsa police officer is never off duty. If they witness something happening they have to step in. Just like a doctor is never off duty.

  • @truthwinsuk8056
    @truthwinsuk8056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These are quality. Please do some more

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The individual Crimewatch shows and Crimewatch File programmes are also available.

  • @uggggggghhhhh
    @uggggggghhhhh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He seems like a really interesting and unique man. I love eccentric people.
    Also, I'm sad he didn't get to finish reading Oblomov, its a wonderful book!!

    • @Peter-ix1ym
      @Peter-ix1ym ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will try and find the book and give it a read

  • @adamoneill2566
    @adamoneill2566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Discusting 6 years he was a nice guy schliak he was a harmless eccentric who was probably was lonely disgraceful 6 years. Price of shit that Hamilton

  • @irishcountryman4866
    @irishcountryman4866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pity no photo of the killer.

  • @elkehassell171
    @elkehassell171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Six years what a joke!

    • @2icelollys1goat
      @2icelollys1goat ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I couldn't fathom this. Should've got 40 not 6

  • @joshuaedwards4536
    @joshuaedwards4536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So they did find the killer of Christoff, I wasn't sure as I never followed up this case back then, but am so glad justice was done eventually.....

    • @ginaryan2093
      @ginaryan2093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes they did.

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ginaryan2093 thanks for the update, and I'm so glad to hear that justice was truly done once again

    • @ginaryan2093
      @ginaryan2093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@joshuaedwards4536 well it wasn’t exactly justice - actually the outcome is revealed later on in this video as you’re probably by now aware.

    • @neilt4723
      @neilt4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justice? Stabbed to death 22 times and manslaughter?? joke of a verdict wasn’t it

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neilt4723 thank you for updating me on this case, and yes, that's DISGUSTING, 22 xs, premeditated murder more like, should've locked the piece of sh*t up for life

  • @abigailfreeman715
    @abigailfreeman715 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 41:00 they gave him a cigarette, while questioning him. When he refused to give a hair or blood sample, and he left, surely they could have tested the cigarette butt he left in the ashtray.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure if possible with the technology at the time. Plus the cigarette might have been poetic licence for the reconstruction.

    • @abigailfreeman715
      @abigailfreeman715 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eadweard. agree, but the police commentator said that he asked for a cigarette, and they obliged in a hope to relax him.

    • @thebossdebz3060
      @thebossdebz3060 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@abigailfreeman715he may have just tossed it in the toilet.or kept it untill later

  • @sarahpiaggio2693
    @sarahpiaggio2693 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have they increased sentences since the 90s at all? Because only 6 years for this?! and according to the dates at the end, he only did 3!! That's really quite shockingly little.

  • @sylversyrfer6894
    @sylversyrfer6894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 years for brutally stabbing to death a man? What terrible injustice!

  • @ginaryan2093
    @ginaryan2093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They certainly dance around the fact that he isn’t all that keen on women.

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not really. They used the word 'flamboyant' less than 1 minute in. Tactful word for gay back then.

    • @justinparkerthewildwolf6394
      @justinparkerthewildwolf6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's gay . They said he's gay

  • @Maz-zb9uf
    @Maz-zb9uf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry does anyone know if they caught the first guy killer

  • @cgarby
    @cgarby หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Kenneth Hamilton was released in 1994, having served just four years in prison." What a joke

  • @Its_a_kind_of_magic71
    @Its_a_kind_of_magic71 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:53 since when does requesting afternoons off from work constitute a drink problem?

  • @IvorGrumble
    @IvorGrumble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He probably would have been a fantastic barrister, but the xenophobic old dinosaurs didn't allow that.

    • @Lushgirl81
      @Lushgirl81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Silly reasons as to why he couldn’t practice!

    • @LordMazzello
      @LordMazzello ปีที่แล้ว

      How could he have become a barrister? He was a lazy and unreliable employee and a drunk to boot.

    • @sarahpiaggio2693
      @sarahpiaggio2693 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LordMazzello Maybe chicken and egg: a lazy, alcoholic unreliable employee BECAUSE he couldn't fulfill his potential (?)

  • @glamdolly30
    @glamdolly30 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These cases, now over 30 years old, are horrific - not least because in most cases the guilty served such short prison terms for killing people, and if still alive, are walking free today.
    So much police and legal work (and money) went into catching and convicting the killers, for such paltry penalties. In America. these scumbags would never see the light of day again, but would die in prison - and quite right too. How the hell is stabbing an unarmed man 23 times manslaughter?! It's clearly murder. If I was evil enough to do that to someone, there's no way I would expect anything other than a life sentence!
    Poor Christoph paid the ultimate price for trusting a stranger. Loneliness kills. God bless him - he did not get justice, the monster who stole his life from him should have died in a locked cage.
    This case reminds me of another Crimewatch case from around 1990 - also London. Retired, middle-aged gay headmaster Ron Harrison, who was tortured and killed by two rent boys. They too served ridiculously short prison sentences (I think 8 years), for their horrific violence against a vulnerable man who invited them into his home.

    • @JayJay-nr2gk
      @JayJay-nr2gk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it does remind me of ron Harrison to especially how smart he dressed they died in similar ways to

  • @MalonsMilk
    @MalonsMilk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As soon as they said flamboyant man I knew he’d be gay.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว

      It was one of the unpleasant 'code words' they used back then. Society was hugely homophobic.

  • @Groover1
    @Groover1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is " very nolivadule " ?

  • @sdeee3842
    @sdeee3842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My old haunt lived there!

  • @lee70687
    @lee70687 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An interesting snapshot into homophobia of the time, both in the verdict, and to a lesser extent the way the police dealt with and spoke about the case. It wasn't a 'homosexual murder', it was a 'homophobic murder'.

  • @donny121able
    @donny121able ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If this was in court today he would of got life.

    • @sarahpiaggio2693
      @sarahpiaggio2693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I was going to say, a 6 year sentence which was in practice a 3 year sentence for such a crime is a real insult to the victim and I hope they've increased sentences now

  • @kernow5000
    @kernow5000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people always confuse "memory" with storage? The iPhone doesn't have "up to 512GB of memory"

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating!

  • @fionagregory9376
    @fionagregory9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nick Ross looks young.

    • @carolinemcgovern8059
      @carolinemcgovern8059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Went to Queens University, Belfast. Contemporaneous photos make him look like he should still be in school :) Good genes?

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In fairness, it is 34 years ago. We all looked younger 34 years ago.

  • @glamdolly30
    @glamdolly30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The policemen who take part in these reconstructions are always such lousy actors, bless 'em!

  • @ross6740
    @ross6740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They could of got DNA from the cigarette Hamilton extinguished in the ashtray in prison at the fist interview. Only saying...

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DNA technology back then was very primitive, sadly. So many of the cases in 80s Crimewatch would have been solved very quickly nowadays.

    • @vivienneandersson6019
      @vivienneandersson6019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could have

  • @scallopohare9431
    @scallopohare9431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somebody, get that landlord a bra!

  • @hapijen4828
    @hapijen4828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could've got his DNA from the cigarette he was offered & left behind in the Mount joy interview.🚬

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure if possible with the technology at the time. Plus the cigarette might have been poetic licence for the reconstruction.

    • @muls9571
      @muls9571 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in 1989 they couldn't

  • @Bloxdio_God
    @Bloxdio_God 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Something about the blood stained man she wasn’t happy with” - decided to do the square root of f all about it as she wanted to get down the pub. I hope she was sacked.

    • @lunchtimelunatic2536
      @lunchtimelunatic2536 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope you get sacked from whatever meaningless job you do

  • @Bad_Gnasher
    @Bad_Gnasher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Disgusting he only got 6 years. Shame on the judge and jury, it should have been life.

  • @johnryan2193
    @johnryan2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was going for a drink so the fact that a guy covered in blood passed me ,n!!!!!!!!

  • @_MissANGIE
    @_MissANGIE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    52:39 BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO.

  • @mazfitnessjounery2023
    @mazfitnessjounery2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does he remind of the tv charcter Poirot

  • @rich9697
    @rich9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The copper described it as a "homosexual murder" which he said meant he "had a real problem on his hands" homosexual murders obviously being much more problematic than your bog standard hetro murder. The good ole days eh.

    • @IvorGrumble
      @IvorGrumble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Like black people and women, gay people were always treated like shit by the police so they didn't really talk to the police as they didn't trust them, and rightly so. This is probably why it would have been problematic, albeit the police's fault in the first place.

    • @Purewood357
      @Purewood357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂 we miss the 80s n 90s

    • @2icelollys1goat
      @2icelollys1goat ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@IvorGrumbleThat's a bold stereotype - and a massive generalisation, that basically makes all coppers out to be bastards. I was an officer and treated people equally. You sound very bitter, sadly.

    • @anglodoomer5995
      @anglodoomer5995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it was true

    • @donny121able
      @donny121able ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was referring to the fact he could be having many homosexual emcounters making it hard to pin down a suspect.

  • @sdeee3842
    @sdeee3842 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worked at Chancery Lane

  • @traciemarsh1611
    @traciemarsh1611 ปีที่แล้ว

    rip christoph so sad

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1992, good homophobic jury you had there. UK justice isn't justice

  • @nicholashudson9792
    @nicholashudson9792 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serves the man right

    • @tosspot1305
      @tosspot1305 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @donny121able
      @donny121able ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly more of a man than you will ever be.

  • @carolann3249
    @carolann3249 ปีที่แล้ว

    He should have stayed at work and not lied about his drinking problem . A sad man whose talents were wasted .

    • @thebossdebz3060
      @thebossdebz3060 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What drinking problem.

  • @elviscool9822
    @elviscool9822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wat e spitting phelmp I'm in shop with white short most don't like homasexuals but these days the laws not ie whatever CNT say nothung bt gays lesbians transvestites homasexuals Cs its allowed now

  • @barryward2538
    @barryward2538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really manslaughter

  • @Lawh
    @Lawh ปีที่แล้ว

    So he was gay.

  • @meredithisme3752
    @meredithisme3752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aah UK yeah they don't believe in consequences

    • @tosspot1305
      @tosspot1305 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you offend someone on the Internet

  • @Groover1
    @Groover1 ปีที่แล้ว

    ach-y-fi mun

  • @erdemir5641
    @erdemir5641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A naked raving homosexual approaches a man. Man defends himself and gets locked up

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      “raving homosexual”??? Where did you get “raving” from?
      If people were allowed to kill anyone who came-on to them there wouldn’t be many people left!
      …so basically he murdered a man for being naked & you don’t think he should have been “locked up”???

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There’s a word for fear of homosexuals & it’s NOT a legal defence for murder…although some lawyers in the USA have tried it!

    • @TF80s
      @TF80s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We only have his word for the fact that the guy came onto him..more likely the murderer was a repressed homosexual himself who took his self hatred out on a poor innocent man who wouldn't have hurt a fly.

    • @nudisco300
      @nudisco300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Secretly watch gay porn when the missus ain't around Steve? You doth protest too much.

    • @dawnb3194
      @dawnb3194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      …… so the ‘man’ said - that ‘man’ who was only there to rob the victim. A convenient defence in my opinion. He got off very lightly imo 😡

  • @manuelacagiao8622
    @manuelacagiao8622 ปีที่แล้ว

    I REMEMBER ' VERY NICE POGRAMA. ♥️❤️💖♥️❤️💖👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍