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Excellent model of the UP "big boy" type, I wish that I was actually able to afford one of these models before MTH trains shut down their business operations.
I bought a Big Boy at a garage sale AHM new in the box along with a cab forward new in the box and got them both for 200 from 1967 New in the box pretty good huh I run DC old school
That Big Boy is gaining weight faster than I do at Christmas. I'm looking forward to getting the N scale Big Boy and Challenger by Athearn. Will you be willing to have an N scale Big Boy and Challenger?
Another excellent review. It did seem to me that you were having trouble getting some of the sounds to work as intended. At one point it sounded like the whistle got stuck on and I could hear the recorded loop. The engine does definitely have a massively hefty pull to it. I'm not an MTH fan but it was an excellent video review.
very good review James! I like how you covered the DCS portion of what is best about this locomotive. I noticed that the DCS has several options on your controller that we don't have on DCC. It would be nice to see a video about that- I am especially interested int the "boost" "brake" and "coast" options.... What do they do? If you do do a video about DCS it would be cool to include both the Big Boy and the MTH UP GEVO or Dash 9 in the video to show the advantages of having DCS for steam vs. Diesel thanks Joel
the classification lights work on the broadway limited version and the red working lights on the tender but then wheel caps are black I like the look of this version but the lights are a deal breaker for me
Like Wow that is soooo cool. I love the Big Boy my Poppy and I saw it when it was here in California. So which Big Boy you like better in HO the MTH or Sun Set Limited one? I wont to get my poppy one.
Doesn't MTH HO have quality issues when it comes to longevity and repair? I heard they are quite tedious and that the repair service is rather terrible. Has MTH fixed that issue now?
Voice sounds make it a toy, always hate this on models, like the drivers breakfast on Hornby sound files, just cheese, would be so nice to have the best sounds " configured " for more realistic running, safely valves lifting when working hard, and injectors working, cannot be that difficult, can it...? But smoke looks great, not whisping but looks like the blowers on..!
Peter Luk I believe so. On my MTH Proto Sound 3.0 Big Boy 4014, it's not too loud, but then again I have the sound all the way up. It's not noticeable when you're up close or the sound is all the way up. But I recommend them, they're so cool!
The MTH Big Boy here can do 18" minimum but it won't look right and toylike since a real Big Boy wouldn't go on curves that small. 24" absolute minimum, 30" modelers minimum.
Good afternoon. Please, write to the manufacturer of the data of the wagons attached to Big Boy and the articles on the wagons. We do not sell them in Russia. Therefore, I will buy via the Internet.
Really not a fan of the whistle the sounds not that clean unless its mic distortion. Other then that beautiful engine. Keep up with the videos LOVE watching them.
Great video for a great model !One thing that was not mentioned, Is it articulated as per prototype or does it have both sets of driving wheels move on curves?
I still think the BLI is superior. I saw a comparison vid that involved a steep grade and the MTH struggled, but the BLI didn't even hesitate. Not to mention the smoking whistle and depleting coal load.
two things that I have to say about mth ho for DCC operators, the models themselves look amazing, and prices are better athearn and bli. But, the one thing that completely steers my away from mth is DCC compatibility. Yes I know you can buy DCC ready models, if you can find the one your looking for. I would probably have an all mth locomotive fleet if it weren't for the dcc compatibility issues. My layout and the club I'm part of both run dcc.
Brock Krenke they are DCC compatable. I run mine on an NCE Power Cab, not a DCS remote, and it runs fine. So if you can find one, get one, if you want it.
Ok to all you BLM lover's out there this is the most powerful Ho Big Boy on the market. Jlwii2000 dose a pull test on the MTH Big Boy and its at 11.1 on his scale. Then check out his video on the BLM Ho Big Boy his pull test on it came up with only 6.5 ! LOL MTH wins when it comes to POWER.
pull tests do not get that accurate. On a grade the mth would struggle. But bli being heavier, it would not struggle. A real test would be to hook it up to cars and see which can do more. BLI could probably pull more cars up a grade than mth could becuase bli being heavier.
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Imagine rerailing that by hand
Always look forward to your reviews dude! Keep up the great work as long as you can!
What an amazing locomotive, thanks for sharing
Excellent model of the UP "big boy" type, I wish that I was actually able to afford one of these models before MTH trains shut down their business operations.
I bought a Big Boy at a garage sale AHM new in the box along with a cab forward new in the box and got them both for 200 from 1967 New in the box pretty good huh I run DC old school
That is one awesome pulling machine! As is the prototype I am sure. Thanks for the detailed review. Cheers, Dan
I have this! I love it! I have the weathered version though, with the oil tender.
Seems fitting to watch this after big boy has began its trip great video man
"Smokes like your Uncle Richard." That was priceless!!
That Big Boy is gaining weight faster than I do at Christmas. I'm looking forward to getting the N scale Big Boy and Challenger by Athearn. Will you be willing to have an N scale Big Boy and Challenger?
Another excellent review. It did seem to me that you were having trouble getting some of the sounds to work as intended. At one point it sounded like the whistle got stuck on and I could hear the recorded loop. The engine does definitely have a massively hefty pull to it. I'm not an MTH fan but it was an excellent video review.
very good review James! I like how you covered the DCS portion of what is best about this locomotive. I noticed that the DCS has several options on your controller that we don't have on DCC. It would be nice to see a video about that- I am especially interested int the "boost" "brake" and "coast" options.... What do they do?
If you do do a video about DCS it would be cool to include both the Big Boy and the MTH UP GEVO or Dash 9 in the video to show the advantages of having DCS for steam vs. Diesel
thanks
Joel
would be nice if you were not in a hurry what do it is this do you have to pay for TV time they should be paying you for the add
good thing you paused, since you were de-railed at 7:26...LOL
What a beautiful beast. I'd like to do a fantasy scheme in ICRR.
I call MTH HO steam locomotives the rarest of rare because they're extremely elusive.
great video like always
MTH is the best, most powerful ho Big Boy ever.
the classification lights work on the broadway limited version and the red working lights on the tender but then wheel caps are black I like the look of this version but the lights are a deal breaker for me
that is awesome James good videos
Bends add character
Nice , can you do a how to video on how to add sound to a Walthers Proto Superliner cars
Nice video. Would you ever think about a comparison between say this one the the BLI?
i show the BLI on my channel,, and a comparison video
Like Wow that is soooo cool. I love the Big Boy my Poppy and I saw it when it was here in California. So which Big Boy you like better in HO the MTH or Sun Set Limited one? I wont to get my poppy one.
I'm betting that the price of this shot up so fast same with the 884
Where can i buy this one?
The bell seemed a bit fast to me. Can just see that guy pulling on the cord. ?
6:23 you can see the front drivers on the loco are derailed.
It's just the crossing making it look de-railed ....all wheels are on track......
Do you have or know the model number of you smoke generator?
Ive got a question. Is every model on trainworld 4014? because they all have different numbers on their number boards.
Oh my god. thats all i have to say. Overall is an impressive model.
MTH SD70ACE Achilles heel at last?
Thanks - but I think the BB was coal fired. They were for freight operation in Utah and Wyoming (coal hauling) and coal was cheap and plentiful.
4014 has been converted
Could I get your opinion? Would you get the Broadway limited version or MTH version
If there’s an AT&SF 5000 model train can you review that please?
I think the sound could of been better.
Doesn't MTH HO have quality issues when it comes to longevity and repair? I heard they are quite tedious and that the repair service is rather terrible. Has MTH fixed that issue now?
the dcs commander.. does that work for all HO scale dcc loco's?
no
THAT'S POWERRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Voice sounds make it a toy, always hate this on models, like the drivers breakfast on Hornby sound files, just cheese, would be so nice to have the best sounds " configured " for more realistic running, safely valves lifting when working hard, and injectors working, cannot be that difficult, can it...? But smoke looks great, not whisping but looks like the blowers on..!
Why is the U P badge crooked
Sorry I mean which one you like more the Ho MTH Big Boy or the Broadway Limited?
is a 4x 8 layout good for a start up new to dcc thanks
perfect!
is that normal that MTH's smoke motor has such a noisy sound ?
Peter Luk I believe so. On my MTH Proto Sound 3.0 Big Boy 4014, it's not too loud, but then again I have the sound all the way up. It's not noticeable when you're up close or the sound is all the way up. But I recommend them, they're so cool!
I'm building a layout at home and would like to know what is the minimum turn radius
The MTH Big Boy here can do 18" minimum but it won't look right and toylike since a real Big Boy wouldn't go on curves that small.
24" absolute minimum, 30" modelers minimum.
Good afternoon. Please, write to the manufacturer of the data of the wagons attached to Big Boy and the articles on the wagons. We do not sell them in Russia. Therefore, I will buy via the Internet.
bell rate seems too fast to me, other than that small tweak, i'd say it's pretty good out of the box.
UP Trains 4014 the bell rate is supposed to be fast, the real 4014 never had a swinging bell, it's an air bell, like the ones on older diesels.
Really not a fan of the whistle the sounds not that clean unless its mic distortion. Other then that beautiful engine. Keep up with the videos LOVE watching them.
Great video for a great model !One thing that was not mentioned, Is it articulated as per prototype or does it have both sets of driving wheels move on curves?
Like it
I still think the BLI is superior. I saw a comparison vid that involved a steep grade and the MTH struggled, but the BLI didn't even hesitate. Not to mention the smoking whistle and depleting coal load.
Afrosteam he compared a very old version of the ho big boy of mth
Also it is much cheaper
can i have the link to it?
th-cam.com/video/flhdnb_y49s/w-d-xo.html
Great video thank you. Question: is there a turntable and roundhouse kit out there that can handle this beast?
Jon Stoddard i need to know too
Behemoth!!!
Unless I am mistaken, the wheels on the front truck of the BB do NOT turn. What is up with that on a locomotive at this price point?
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is that a carriage ? he is on the wrong track, bloody hell
two things that I have to say about mth ho for DCC operators, the models themselves look amazing, and prices are better athearn and bli. But, the one thing that completely steers my away from mth is DCC compatibility. Yes I know you can buy DCC ready models, if you can find the one your looking for. I would probably have an all mth locomotive fleet if it weren't for the dcc compatibility issues. My layout and the club I'm part of both run dcc.
Brock Krenke they are DCC compatable. I run mine on an NCE Power Cab, not a DCS remote, and it runs fine. So if you can find one, get one, if you want it.
Ok to all you BLM lover's out there this is the most powerful Ho Big Boy on the market. Jlwii2000 dose a pull test on the MTH Big Boy and its at 11.1 on his scale. Then check out his video on the BLM Ho Big Boy his pull test on it came up with only 6.5 ! LOL MTH wins when it comes to POWER.
pull tests do not get that accurate. On a grade the mth would struggle. But bli being heavier, it would not struggle. A real test would be to hook it up to cars and see which can do more. BLI could probably pull more cars up a grade than mth could becuase bli being heavier.
I'm sorry I mean BLI is week. MTH wins in pulling power.
In comparison to its peers, this detail is not exceptional and the sound is disappointing