I'm a passenger who ride public transportation and I would never tell any public transit employee how to do their job because I'm not driving 40 foot and 60 foot buses or a train vehicle. Thank you for your service transit employees who operate vehicles. Appreciate this video Bus Driver Life!
I am a bus operator, and I totally love this video. You made the bottom line point at the very end..."just get on and pay, and leave the bus driver alone". Yes, that would take away so much of the craziness we deal with.
damn right. No debating or conversating. Once the passengers attitude comes out like that the parking break go on and bus gets turned off. Wait for sup to show up and deal with it.
That last guy is the average passenger today. Since the pandemic, all rules in society seem to have gone out the window. Passengers don't feel they have to pay, talk to you disrespectfully and threaten you constantly. Motorists ignore traffic lights, signs and double lines causing absolute mayhem on the roads! The level of patience, concentration and self control needed to navigate this 💩💩💩every day is exhausting! It's gotten so much worse than it was when I started because people didn't have cell phones 35 years ago! That causes problems with passengers and motorists because no one is paying attention to anything but their nothing, generally unimportant, non life or death conversations! I'm glad I'm at the end of and not starting my career as a bus operator!
I work in Montreal as a Bus Driver. There is zero tolerance for the way this man talked to the driver. If he didn't pay and being a ass about it and tell me to call my supervisor He would have a nice surprise it we be the police showing up and giving him a ticket for not pay the fair that over 275$
I'm a bus driver. Now when I OPEN my mouth to someone I usually get a response. When I CLOSE my mouth and say nothing I usually get extremely little to NO comment or anything else from people boarding the bus. No assaults physically, or verbally. Do you get how this works? Just drive the bus......payment or not, my paycheck is still the same......and I keep ALL my teeth in my mouth
Yes..I get how that works. I actually mentioned not arguing over fare in the video while giving an example of a bus driver that was assaulted. I’m just trying to make videos giving different examples and perspectives.
My apologies not trying to sound like a smart $#@!. I guess the point I was trying to make is try and keep things simple with a wide variety of clients and hopefully the incidents in a day can be minimal and the stress levels lower. I sometimes look at the job as surviving my day. Didn't mean to come across as a mouth piece. I appreciated the different illustrations. Good content 👌 👏
We keep track of all fare evaders through our GFI (farebox). BC TRANSIT has made it very clear TO NOT dispute fares. It could lead to possible disaplinary action. We just move them along no questions asked. Not near as many assaults anymore.
I'm a bus operator. Granted, I haven't been doing the job very long. I learn a lot from your videos. But honestly, it makes no difference to me if the person pays the fare or not. I'm getting paid to operate the bus regardless. Why hold up the whole bus to get into it with the person? My company has a policy not to get into fare disputes with customers. They just tell us to ask for the fare once, if they don't pay. Tell them they ride at their own risk.
Many of my passengers used to stick up for me especially the ones having important places to go. I had passengers fight other passengers for holding up the bus.
I'm a bus operator and I love this video, thank you Keywan but I learn the best thing to do is not argue about that fare box or fare evaders because we are not fare enforcement or police officers, we just drive the bus from point A to B. Most of the time my routes go by smooth to be honest.
We have to call our dispatcher and tell them what is owned and what the client is saying as to dispute the price or pay the next trip etc. Then the dispatcher can share the solution with us. If the passenger will not comply, they can get off the bus.
I had some passengers told me to shut the f word up and drive the Greyhound bus and I said no, he could get off or police would be coming to remove him and most likely he would get off and leave.
In my city, we made all our fares FREE. This has made our jobs SO much easier and the rides more efficient. Before our FREE fare policy. I didn't care if people paid or not to avoid stuff like this in the first place. I have time points to meet! 🚌💨
@@ThePumpin1 I live in a college city. Our service is outsourced, (First Transit) not ran by the city. The city AND the college have a contract and fund our service. We provide city and college transportation. The university includes a fee in a tuition for every student. And the city gets grants every year or so towards transit.
University Of Michigan college buses in Ann Arbor, Michigan are free fare bus rides to the public but the AAATA bus, you have to pay to ride their bus. The college buses in Chicago are not open to the public to ride, only for UIC college students only.
I like the fare free system! Some cities will implement subsidized free-fare zones in like their downtowns so you can just hop on and off wherever you want, but suburban or express routes come at a small fare. Really great for people travelling into the city for a day and want to get around.
The city need to put an end to this. I'm a Coach Operator and I didn't sign up to be abused verbally, emotionally, or psychologically. I didn't sign up to be affected by passengers choice of drugs like fentanyl or weed and have to have nausea or headaches for the duration of my shift. And don't come on the bus telling me to smile! You not paying your meesly $2 to sew me smile. Sit down. Let me see you keep a smile on your face with all this secondhand smoke name. Calling, people smelling, nausea sick feeling all day long. You smile and let me know how that works for you! Thanks for the videos 😅😅😅THAT put a smile on my face. 10:00
Most bus drivers up here in Chicago that does the dangerous bus routes on the Southside and Westside areas don't argue about the bus fare because those bus routes are not going in friendly neighborhoods. My friend told me that the bus company told us not to argue about the bus fare or the fare evaders because she said that money is not going in her pockets and she said too much stuff happened to bus drivers. You wouldn't want to drive buses in the Chicago area Bus Driver Life.
@@CutiePie-lg3sl I do the Southside bus route in Chicago and you would hear music playing on the bus routes. I also have people getting on the bus through my back door, i don't trip about that because I want to go through my work in peace as much as possible.
I guess that is one thing about driving Greyhound over a city transit- just remind your disruptive passenger that unless they want to be stranded in the middle of nowhere in a state they aren’t familiar with, then they best act accordingly 😂. The second someone starts talking to me sideways that’s when I give them the reminder, they keep on, then it’s time for em to get off the bus. 😂
Public transportation and private transportation is different because the driver of Greyhound doesn't have to tolerate a rude passenger like public transportation bus drivers do. Thank you for your service of driving Greyhound buses.
I had a person put two bikes on the front rack, then get on, then he realised only after getting on, that it was the wrong bus, then have to wait for him to take both bus off.
I'm working as a Bus Driver in Warsaw Poland and I think we have a best possible solution of a relationship between passenger and driver. Drivers are not selling tickets at all. There are ticket machines at the buses and bus stops. There are ticket controllers randomly checking passenegers if they have a ticket. Driver's job is to drive a bus not to sell tickets. Not arguments with passengers about that whatsoever
These situations are why some bus companies are considering automated/driverless buses. Luckily for us, the technology and the infrastructure aren't quite there.
Well even the automated buses will have an attendant on board so they would still deal with some fare issues I’d assume…but who knows what will happen with that. They are definitely pushing for it!
I’ll eat crow. Self driving buses will never happen, at least within the next 10 years. I’m totally against self driving anything. Technology can be great but anything that runs by software is just as bad as human interaction. Our electric ProTerra buses are run by a computer and malfunction all the time and usually at the wrong place and time. Once was Almost was rear ended when the bus suddenly shut down in the middle an intersection. Another time was on the freeway traveling 65mph the bus shut down. Yes a diesel bus can fail too but you have more control. The only real way to have self driving work if it is on its own route and roadway other than that I see total failure. If I’m proven wrong, I’ll eat my comment and opinion.
I used to tell the new drivers that no matter what you hear and how hard it may be, don't ever take it personally especially as the blame will fall on the driver for loosing his cool (in my country anyway). Its just words from a person who has their own demons to deal with, its very hard not to take it personal but with experience you can learn to filter it. Man these videos show no matter where in the world you work we all deal with the same thing.
Most passengers understand we have a tough job. It’s the overprivilaged that think they’re better than anyone else that look down on you. My answer was always the same “look,.....Umm......I’m kind of new. I just started a week ago. I never drove a bus before”. 😂😂😂
I'm a passenger and it annoyed that crap outta me when a person who had been sitting at the bus stop waiting for 10+ minutes boards the bus and remembers, "Oh. Crap. I gotta pay," and starts digging through their purse or pockets to find their transit card or cash, holding up the bus's departure.
The company tells us just drive and dont worry about the fares its the government's job to enforce it. Now no body pays but they still complain and argue with the driver then get kicked off the bus.
I never allowed anyone to swear at me...that made it a criminal matter for the police to handle...the company rule was clear and so is the ciminal code. Sometimes the police were reluctant to lay a charge but I would insist. Also the company rule allowed me to refuse that passenger boarding ever again and I did in one case.
“Put something in the box” once something went in it didn’t matter. A quarter, nickel, dime, whatever. Full fare good for you. Just don’t ask for a transfer if you didn’t pay your entire fare.
This is the method I’ve settled on so far since I started driving the city bus about 6 months ago. It seems to help weed out at least some of the potential troublemakers. It also dignifies the customer letting them pay their own fare, whatever they can afford at the time. Where I drive there’s a lot of homeless, addicts, felons and so some people literally only have changed their pocket. After I insist on them putting something in the box it’s surprising how they magically will find a few coins to drop in them box.
What gets me the most is when I wave passengers on so I can remain on time or get to my timepoint for a small break and they ask me “does it not work” 😂 Ma’am don’t worry if it works or not lol😂
I know right????!!!!! People are so backwards. I mean why in the world would you care if the box is working or not? Just keep it moving. You don’t work here. 😅😅😅
I worked as a night auditor as a relief. It was free travel if you had a weekly train ticket. Midnight to dawn these services ran & the first fares had $50.00 notes for $2.20 fares - the drivers carried minimal change due to security. I used to get people on asap to move them off on their 2 hour trips home. Often the scammers used Seniors Passes to pay a flat fee then not pat the $9.90 (long trip). I could issue fines but preferred they paid the full fare - even kids for scamming the system. $9.90 was the max price compared to a $220 Fine.
I rode a late night bus last night at 11 Pm and a drunk man got on the bus. He appeared to be asking her a question but I couldn’t hear him to well because he had a foreign accent. She said walk and talk so she could get going. But she also wanted him to sit. He got upset she was telling him to sit down she said “Sir please sit down I don’t want you to get hurt” 5 times until she screamed “Bitch sit down I don’t want you to get hurt” He kept talking back to her and she said after I get off this bus I will beat the f out of you! And he still kept dragging on she tried her best to ignore him.
When I went on her bus to go back home at 12:30 am I asked her if the guy still bothered her nothing happened she said. This lady is a very nice driver. She greets me when I get on and off the bus. But I think she has ADHD or Tourettes because she would always be singing or humming and she would always shake her hand at red lights plus her reaction was crazy. She told me on the ride back she didn’t want to appear to be soft so the man didn’t hurt her anything that’s why her reaction was so serious.
man I would be mortified if myself or someone I knew argued with bus drivers like this. That's so embarrassing for that guy. Just pay the fare or walk if you're going a "single stop"
In Portland, the rule of thumb is *do not address passengers* who don't pay. If it's anything I have learned over the years, it's that if I speak up (however righteously), at best, it will cause an unnecessary argument that the passenger WILL win (or at least it looks that way in their mind). Forget arguing about fare, or anything else for that matter. Now, when it comes to issues of safety, I put the person on notice. If they don't stop harassing other passengers, or doing things that are unsafe, then I ask them to get off the bus. If they won't do that, I remain cool as a cucumber, call my dispatcher, inform them of the situation, and they send a Road Supervisor. After that, I pull the bus over, secure it, open the doors, shut off the engine, and then make a public announcement to all passengers apologizing for the delay, and that, due to an unforeseen issue, the journey will not continue until it's resolved... And we wait... I don't address the problem passenger at all. Instead, I pull out one of my cruise magazines or a steamy romance novel, enjoy a good read as the minutes roll by, and remember that with each passing minute, my bank account is getting *FATTER,* and theirs isn't (in fact it's likely they don't even have a bank account at all, and if they do, it's shrinking!!). Attitude is everything, and when you treat everybody like they're your neighbor and act like everything is business as usual, the problem takes care of itself sooner or later. Either the person alights on their own volition (c'mon, I know you can walk the two blocks it takes to get to the next stop), or the other passengers get involved and bum-rush the offender out the door (I've had that happen!) - either way, everything usually gets taken care of even before the Road Supervisor shows up. I'm super nice to everybody, but nobody gets their own way on my bus anymore. I have ways of getting people to tow the line. I do it all with a smile, never argue, and don't let their crap get to me - because you know the second you let someone else's crap get to you, THEY HAVE YOU. Uh-uh. Homie don't play that no more.
In Belgium it is not our job to ask if people if they have payed or not. I don't want to get beat up for someone that has not payed. I don't get payed more or less if my passengers have payed. I just say thank you to the people that scan their cards. There is already so much driver agression going on here.
Where I'm from in Australia, anytime a passenger didn't want to pay for their bus fair or most of it if they paid a small amount of it. The money usually came out of that bus drivers pay check which isn't fair, because I remember one time this lady didn't pay the $2.50 and the bus driver we had is very kind and he ended up having to pay for the ladies bus fair because she got off and didn't want to pay. And those are the types of people yeah sure we can't get rid of, but we can try and stop which doesn't always work because of a number of reasons. Please people just pay your bus fair if you catching a bus, because some of that money can go to both new buses but also fuel money and to the bus driver's pay check. If you don't want to pay you don't catch the bus. Yeah sure if you know the bus drivers and they let you ride for free then sure maybe, but still always pay the full amount for bus fairs if your a couple dollars or cents short maybe let the bus driver know "hey I'm a couple short may I possibly pay the rest when I can?" and the bus driver may let you do that. And if you do that a lot and pay the rest like you say they'll let you here and there get on because they know your honest and still willing to pay the full amount.
@@BusDriverLife Yeah basically but more out the bus drivers pockets, well at the same time kinda coming out of their pay checks. They still get paid the full on the check, they do however loss the money out of their pockets if that bus driver pays the bus fair someone doesn't want to pay. And it wasn't because the bus company told them to but it was the bus drivers desition to. And some members of the public do pay for other people's bus fair.
If a passenger wants a special stop, I very calmly tell them, “Sorry, it’s not safe.” They can argue and scream until they’re blue in the face, I don’t care. They get the posted bus stop and that’s it. I don’t argue back, I just tell them to call customer service, which, they do, and nothing happens to me because I uttered the magic word: *”SAFETY.”* 😁
Not a bus driver, but a railroad Brakeman who just recently switched over from passenger service over to the freight switching/hauling side. You'd be surprised how many crazy people we got almost just like this doing similar things on the train as well.
I’m a truck driver and I am contemplating switching to bus driving but I’m nervous lol. I do enjoy not having to deal with anyone but I have always wanted to become a bus driver.
This is why when going into transit I chose the subway. Big cab isolated from the passengers. However, as soon as you walk out of the cab to switch ends or deal with something wrong with the train, you run into them again. And the difficult ones (like the goofballs in this video) have a target on your back. That’s why I left. The general public is too crazy for me.
Have you ever had a situation where the fare box didnt print the oass if so what do you do? It happened to me today and normally they would just fill out a card and move on with it. But the driver dudnt want to do the paper work as in fill out the card so he just got a pass on another bus at the park and ride.
I have a free travel pass in Ireland they are usually given out to Older people but disabled people get them, I am only 18 and have a invisible disability I once got accused of it been fake in Ireland and he treatend to call the police which I told him too as he would then get arrested for discrimination but I just tuke a picture of him and the bus number and reported it too Dublin Bus
We have people who do not have to pay and some do have to. I observed some who owe nothing still act as if they are entitled. Not all of them and some fuss over everything! We pick up at their residence, appointment, etc and yake them to their destination and some still go out of their way to try and make the driver feel like crap. Again not all passengers are like that.
20 years as a bus driver-long retired now-never had one fare dispute cause I didn't give a damn about it- I knew my pay didn't depend on who pays and who doesn't.
Ahh yes, the passenger who can't find their fare, also there's the ones that ask where a certain address is and asks the bus driver if the bus goes there. This causes a lot of delays!
The first lady remind me of Edith from Archie bunker and the second guy remind me of Archie bunker lol. I remember the fair was going up in my area pre-Covid and During Covid the fair was free, and now after covid the fair is extremely reduced ,I’ve noticed in my area for some reason there’s not as many passengers on the city bus as there was pre-Covid , i’m not for sure why because my city is a fairly big city and there used to be a lot of people riding the bus . It seems like there’s not too many school buses in my area so the high schoolers have to ride the city bus and you have people going to work and then you have the every day people getting on and off the bus.
I'm a part time bus driver in Germany. I don't care if you ride without a ticket... I'm paid to drive the bus from A to B. I don't get extra pay, or less pay for checking tickets. But try to screw me over, I'm not afraid to call you out on your BS. I've had this... Usually from couples. They buy one ticket, go to the back of the bus and a few minutes later, come back demanding a second ticket, saying "I forgot to print it out". No, I didn't forget. You're trying to screw me over, so suck it! Missed your stop? Sorry, you get off at the next bus stop. No, I can't just "stop here" to let you out. There are rules. Not my rules, state rules! I have a good day job and I was in the military, so I don't care who you think you are. I'm not scared to tell you off. I'm not gonna get fired, because you filed a complaint. Bus drivers/ all drivers are in high demand, so best tone down your attitude and act like a normal human being. I treat people the way they treat me. Treat me well and I'll do the same. We might end up as friends. But try to start something and I'll finish it. And if you play with the stop button, I will pull over at the next bus stop, turn off the engine and lights and wait for someone (I don't care who it is) to get off the bus. I don't care if I'm late, or that I'll lose my break. I'm gonna wait. And no, nobody can tell me to "Move it". This is Europe. And maybe all the stress got to me and I can't keep going. Maybe I need medical assistance for my psychological stress. Maybe you (as a problematic passenger) get to your destination a lot later. Like I said, treat me well and I'll do the same for you. Look for trouble and you will find it.
Hey Mr Keywan, i want to know how do you deal with rude passengers that don't pay their bus fare or passengers name calling you? I wonder do your bus routes be really smooth up there with SACRT?
My goal is to always say whatever shuts them up and gets them outta my face the fastest!! 😂 😂😂 That’s all I care about when driving the bus… Sit down and get out my face!!! A smile, thank you and have seat usually does the trick. Some drivers take it way too seriously. I refuse to get stressed out when driving. My paycheck is the same regardless
One thing the TTC video shows is that not all Canadians are nice people. We have plenty nasty people here. I deal with ppl like that on occasion, although this person was particularly aggressive. Kudos to the TTC driver who kept their cool.
I don’t argue with passengers who don’t have full bus fare I just tell them to have it next time. if they try to sneak on the bus without paying then they will be asked to leave.
My personal opinion is if you can pay the fare, you should pay the fare. I've also experienced it when i dumped my change in too fast. Long story short a ride (which includes a 90 minute transfer) cost $2.50 and a day pass cost $5.00 (weekends / holidays only) and the beep went off when 2.50 was paid to let the operator know the full fare was paid. I once dumped twenty quarters into the farebox and had a dispute with the driver didnt see me put in the $5. Very annoying i get where the operator is coming from totally do, and I should have put ten quarters in, beep, then ten more, beep and then there would be no dispute. But I wanted my day pass which i paid for. Another time, I put ten quarters in and the operator told me i was a dime or nickel short. I'm like ??... I always counted my change before I got on made sure it was right. Nowadays, I use a transit farecard so no more fare disputes for me. Just tap my card and go on with my day. Do they have those in Sacramento? I remember the first time i used one of those the operator was confused didn't know what i did. They looked at their system and it indeed showed them a valid tap was made. This wasn't as much of a dispute as the operator learning how the system worked, which is amazing. Another time, i put
Regular bus rider i totally wouldn't tell off a driver a lot of the drivers that I know from the local transit system I use see me on a regular basis a lot of them if you didn't have your pass or fare ready they would just say hey just pay when you get off or just pay twice next time if you didn't have it the 1st time the last guy good grief just walk a block or 2 if the stop wasn't that far to begin with
I'm a bus driver it's gotten to the point one stop half a stop the whole way. I don't have nothing to stay. Just don't ask me for directions don't thank me nothing. And if I see you again or in the same day I will pass them by. Sorry not sorry assaults on Transportation Workers are up. NYCTA.
I would have popped the break so fast on this Drama King it would have made his head spin. In my city when the passengers hear that Pissssshhhhhhh!!!!!!!sound they know it’s going to be a long bus ride to their destination. A lot of times other people on my bus will just pay the fair for the jive turkey that’s causing trouble in order to keep the bus moving.
Again, this couldn't be Miami because that guy would have gotten cussed out by the other passengers for holding up the bus with all his yelling at the driver.
Yo it’s the TTC this is everyday occurrence, like I said , it’s everyday, bus drivers get assaulted, even know the ATU has a zero tolerance policy for drivers assult
I operated a bus for VTA in santa clara county for 5 years now i went to lightrail which i love doing because i dont have sit in traffic and im in my own cab where i dont have to deal passenger as much. ATU LOCAL 265
Don't have your pass ready? You should have it ready to go before those doors even open, no excuses. You can wait until the others are on board, if you still don't have it ready then you can wait for the next one. Not waiting for someone that thinks up stupid games. You don't pay, off the bus or you get a fine. That simple. (50 Euro + costs for the ride = 55 USD + costs for the trip) However in the case you point to as a real life example, that would mean the police would get involved and that passenger would get fined for that and perhaps even arrested.
Sometimes I pay and just go three stops not a big deal beats walking especially in the summer besides stop is like a block from my house luckily two lines serve my area 1.75 cheaper than the gas or urber or a taxi. So drop a buck 75 and off I go. Nice deal if you ask me. Cheaper than the Starbucks
How about a video of people making up their own bus stops on the side of the road?. I mean there are some drivers that'll actually stop for you if you wave them down.
I had to dig in a bus drivers ass, not too long ago. The driver was turning very very fast to where I slid out of my seat mind you I have been a bus operator myself for almost 30 years. He Got very quiet and drove like he had some damn sense once I let him know I didn’t come on the bus bragging or anything like that but he was driving was reckless. And I told him on the straightaways it’s cool but when you’re turning, you have people sitting behind you 5 to 8 mph is as fast as you need to go in a turn plus he was rude as hell I took the rudeness but me sliding out of My seat pissed me off after I finish berating I gave him $20 for lunch 😂😂😂He’s pretty cool now, but I was not playing that bullshit.
Well bro I ride Paratransit which is a door to door bus service for those with disabilities and believe me I've had some idiot drivers, and one in particular was really nasty with me one day! Probably my worst experience riding paratransit and I've ridden for 26 years. That being said, I've had some really good drivers too, and I know they work hard and get shit from shithead passengers too.
just let them get on , you get paid regardless , why risk it , its not worth it and theyve paid enough tax dollars to support the bus system and your wages
When it comes to fares lots of transit train operators to not even say anything anymore. You put a quarter, here is a transfer. Sorry I just filled my card with money, ok sit down. I think in the fares are not worth the drivers life, than the company has more issues also like lawsuits and all. Plus imagine the stress all day of fighting over it every ride, focus on driving with less pressure on the mind is safer for those that did pay and deserve arrival safe at their destination.
Fare recovery is such a miniscule portion of the budget for most systems. Now, its still important due to underfunding in the first place(every dollar counts), but still. Dealing with fare issues just delays the bus more, causing unreliability, which discourages use, which just adds to no one wanting to fund transit in the first place. Plus it would be dumb to die over a couple bucks...
About that "one stop" guy, he is just trying to get over. Everyone else who rides public transportation realizes you have to PAY for the service!!! It isn't about the stop you get off at. You are utilizing a service; you have to pay for it. In all that time this person was arguing with the bus driver, he could have already been where he needed to go. There has only been one time I didn't pay for a bus ride. I was in Chicago, and I had my CTA transit pass. I put it in the machine, and it said it had expired. Now I knew I had just bought a pass, so I didn't understand why it was expired. I was getting ready to get off of the bus and walk to get another pass, but the driver just let me on anyway. I wasn't trying to pull a fast one, I really thought the pass was still good. So, while I am one the bus, I am looking through my wallet and found the pass that I purchased. Turns out, I didn't throw the expired pass away. To be honest, I was slightly embarrassed (getting on for free) because I didn't want the driver to think I was trying to mooch a ride. If I use a service, I pay.
What you do in this situation like a driver is : you don't move the bus so passengers get up set with the fare evader so passenger will harm the fare evader
Got my cdl and ask to come aboard and drive how ever they only want to pay $17.95 which is a joke. When I can make 10. 00 more else where. Not only the pay putting up with plenty of KARENS
I have seen it as a bus rider where people get on the bus and they are searching,,, and searching,,,, and searching,,, for the fair. It’s like people don’t have their stuff together. I mean if you know,,, you ar riding a bus have your fair together. I pay on my phone and what i end up doing is bring the app that i use for tranzit up and having that ready so when I get on board the bus driver sees what i have and itis their. Their is no rummaging around or forgetting. It’s called Bering curtious. The things that some people do as a fellow passenger is really nuts. I wish everyone would quoperate and do what they are gold. This is why so many people have problems on the bus cause they think the driver is rude or something when it was the passenger but yet they want to blame the driver. Shows you that the passenger is not correct. The driver always,,, has the say cause they are in charge not us as passengers. It irks me that people do this kind of garbage to our bus drivers. It’s not O.K. People think they are entitled to something.
Do you mean their bus FARE? Do you mean TRANSIT? Do you mean BEING? Do you mean COOPERATE? Do you mean TOLD? Do you mean COURTEOUS? A lot of misspellings in this post.
Yea it is the spell check on the phone. Hahaha went to correct that and it put the word in hahahahaha. But that is correct. It was spell check that auto put those words in their and replaced them hahahah. Yes that is correct.
I'm a passenger who ride public transportation and I would never tell any public transit employee how to do their job because I'm not driving 40 foot and 60 foot buses or a train vehicle. Thank you for your service transit employees who operate vehicles. Appreciate this video Bus Driver Life!
I am a bus operator, and I totally love this video. You made the bottom line point at the very end..."just get on and pay, and leave the bus driver alone". Yes, that would take away so much of the craziness we deal with.
Sadly, some people can't live their lives without causing drama.
You can say that again, preach.
Hell would freeze over before my bus would move with that last one on board after acting like that.
damn right. No debating or conversating. Once the passengers attitude comes out like that the parking break go on and bus gets turned off. Wait for sup to show up and deal with it.
That last guy is the average passenger today. Since the pandemic, all rules in society seem to have gone out the window. Passengers don't feel they have to pay, talk to you disrespectfully and threaten you constantly. Motorists ignore traffic lights, signs and double lines causing absolute mayhem on the roads! The level of patience, concentration and self control needed to navigate this 💩💩💩every day is exhausting! It's gotten so much worse than it was when I started because people didn't have cell phones 35 years ago! That causes problems with passengers and motorists because no one is paying attention to anything but their nothing, generally unimportant, non life or death conversations! I'm glad I'm at the end of and not starting my career as a bus operator!
I would get off and sit outside …I’m at work already 🤷🏾♂️
@@vicrob82 with a full bus, the others would make him get off
I work in Montreal as a Bus Driver. There is zero tolerance for the way this man talked to the driver. If he didn't pay and being a ass about it and tell me to call my supervisor He would have a nice surprise it we be the police showing up and giving him a ticket for not pay the fair that over 275$
I need to relocate my job to Montreal. Wow that’s cool. The police where I am just remove the passenger and give a good taking to. No fines.
This is why I love extraboard. Put my head down, jump on (pay or no pay: zero f*cks given), and roll the tires baby. Get that EZ $.
I'm a bus driver. Now when I OPEN my mouth to someone I usually get a response. When I CLOSE my mouth and say nothing I usually get extremely little to NO comment or anything else from people boarding the bus. No assaults physically, or verbally. Do you get how this works? Just drive the bus......payment or not, my paycheck is still the same......and I keep ALL my teeth in my mouth
Yes..I get how that works. I actually mentioned not arguing over fare in the video while giving an example of a bus driver that was assaulted. I’m just trying to make videos giving different examples and perspectives.
Many passengers get mad if you ignore them too.
My apologies not trying to sound like a smart $#@!. I guess the point I was trying to make is try and keep things simple with a wide variety of clients and hopefully the incidents in a day can be minimal and the stress levels lower. I sometimes look at the job as surviving my day. Didn't mean to come across as a mouth piece. I appreciated the different illustrations. Good content 👌 👏
@@rumblinalong at some point I'm sure you have to let the boss man know of the fsre evaders yes?
We keep track of all fare evaders through our GFI (farebox). BC TRANSIT has made it very clear TO NOT dispute fares. It could lead to possible disaplinary action. We just move them along no questions asked. Not near as many assaults anymore.
I'm a bus operator. Granted, I haven't been doing the job very long. I learn a lot from your videos. But honestly, it makes no difference to me if the person pays the fare or not. I'm getting paid to operate the bus regardless. Why hold up the whole bus to get into it with the person? My company has a policy not to get into fare disputes with customers. They just tell us to ask for the fare once, if they don't pay. Tell them they ride at their own risk.
Many of my passengers used to stick up for me especially the ones having important places to go. I had passengers fight other passengers for holding up the bus.
It's all a driver can do to not lose your cool
I'm a bus operator and I love this video, thank you Keywan but I learn the best thing to do is not argue about that fare box or fare evaders because we are not fare enforcement or police officers, we just drive the bus from point A to B. Most of the time my routes go by smooth to be honest.
We have to call our dispatcher and tell them what is owned and what the client is saying as to dispute the price or pay the next trip etc. Then the dispatcher can share the solution with us. If the passenger will not comply, they can get off the bus.
What i would not tolerate is abusive behavior towards bus operators or other passengers. That cannot under any circumstances be tolerated.
I had some passengers told me to shut the f word up and drive the Greyhound bus and I said no, he could get off or police would be coming to remove him and most likely he would get off and leave.
On that second clip I would be like “ ok sir. I’m going to take out all the money and you show me witch quarter you put in. The individual one “
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In my city, we made all our fares FREE. This has made our jobs SO much easier and the rides more efficient. Before our FREE fare policy. I didn't care if people paid or not to avoid stuff like this in the first place. I have time points to meet! 🚌💨
Then how does the service pay for itself?
@@ThePumpin1 I live in a college city. Our service is outsourced, (First Transit) not ran by the city. The city AND the college have a contract and fund our service. We provide city and college transportation. The university includes a fee in a tuition for every student. And the city gets grants every year or so towards transit.
University Of Michigan college buses in Ann Arbor, Michigan are free fare bus rides to the public but the AAATA bus, you have to pay to ride their bus. The college buses in Chicago are not open to the public to ride, only for UIC college students only.
The Ohio State University Campus buses, i don't know if it's open to the public or free fare bus rides.
I like the fare free system! Some cities will implement subsidized free-fare zones in like their downtowns so you can just hop on and off wherever you want, but suburban or express routes come at a small fare. Really great for people travelling into the city for a day and want to get around.
Very cathartic..i work with you and it feels like a losing battle everyday!! Thanks for posting
One thing I notice about these videos is the other passengers NEVER speak up for the Bus Driver. The Bus Driver is really on his/her own in that job.
That’s true in most cases!
The city need to put an end to this. I'm a Coach Operator and I didn't sign up to be abused verbally, emotionally, or psychologically. I didn't sign up to be affected by passengers choice of drugs like fentanyl or weed and have to have nausea or headaches for the duration of my shift. And don't come on the bus telling me to smile! You not paying your meesly $2 to sew me smile. Sit down. Let me see you keep a smile on your face with all this secondhand smoke name. Calling, people smelling, nausea sick feeling all day long. You smile and let me know how that works for you! Thanks for the videos 😅😅😅THAT put a smile on my face. 10:00
Most bus drivers up here in Chicago that does the dangerous bus routes on the Southside and Westside areas don't argue about the bus fare because those bus routes are not going in friendly neighborhoods. My friend told me that the bus company told us not to argue about the bus fare or the fare evaders because she said that money is not going in her pockets and she said too much stuff happened to bus drivers. You wouldn't want to drive buses in the Chicago area Bus Driver Life.
@@CutiePie-lg3sl I do the Southside bus route in Chicago and you would hear music playing on the bus routes. I also have people getting on the bus through my back door, i don't trip about that because I want to go through my work in peace as much as possible.
I guess that is one thing about driving Greyhound over a city transit- just remind your disruptive passenger that unless they want to be stranded in the middle of nowhere in a state they aren’t familiar with, then they best act accordingly 😂. The second someone starts talking to me sideways that’s when I give them the reminder, they keep on, then it’s time for em to get off the bus. 😂
Public transportation and private transportation is different because the driver of Greyhound doesn't have to tolerate a rude passenger like public transportation bus drivers do. Thank you for your service of driving Greyhound buses.
I’m a bus operator and yes I (we) deal with this on a daily. Patience is a must…!!!!
Bruh who you telling that's why I keep my mask on because my face expression shows it.
I m a French bus driver and what I see is that we are experiencing exactly same problems 😂
Yes we are!! Bus drivers are united globally! 😆 Thanks for watching!!
I had a person put two bikes on the front rack, then get on, then he realised only after getting on, that it was the wrong bus, then have to wait for him to take both bus off.
I'm a city bus driver. I get this almost every day. ELLA
I'm working as a Bus Driver in Warsaw Poland and I think we have a best possible solution of a relationship between passenger and driver. Drivers are not selling tickets at all. There are ticket machines at the buses and bus stops. There are ticket controllers randomly checking passenegers if they have a ticket. Driver's job is to drive a bus not to sell tickets. Not arguments with passengers about that whatsoever
That’s a great way to do it! I wish we would adopt that method here!
These situations are why some bus companies are considering automated/driverless buses. Luckily for us, the technology and the infrastructure aren't quite there.
Well even the automated buses will have an attendant on board so they would still deal with some fare issues I’d assume…but who knows what will happen with that. They are definitely pushing for it!
I’ll eat crow. Self driving buses will never happen, at least within the next 10 years. I’m totally against self driving anything. Technology can be great but anything that runs by software is just as bad as human interaction. Our electric ProTerra buses are run by a computer and malfunction all the time and usually at the wrong place and time. Once was Almost was rear ended when the bus suddenly shut down in the middle an intersection. Another time was on the freeway traveling 65mph the bus shut down. Yes a diesel bus can fail too but you have more control.
The only real way to have self driving work if it is on its own route and roadway other than that I see total failure. If I’m proven wrong, I’ll eat my comment and opinion.
This is truth....🔥🔥🔥
I used to tell the new drivers that no matter what you hear and how hard it may be, don't ever take it personally especially as the blame will fall on the driver for loosing his cool (in my country anyway). Its just words from a person who has their own demons to deal with, its very hard not to take it personal but with experience you can learn to filter it.
Man these videos show no matter where in the world you work we all deal with the same thing.
Most passengers understand we have a tough job. It’s the overprivilaged that think they’re better than anyone else that look down on you. My answer was always the same “look,.....Umm......I’m kind of new. I just started a week ago. I never drove a bus before”. 😂😂😂
You see if your bus company was in the 21st century. You'll have this thing called NFC they come on your bus, touch the card and go and sit down😂😂
I'm a passenger and it annoyed that crap outta me when a person who had been sitting at the bus stop waiting for 10+ minutes boards the bus and remembers, "Oh. Crap. I gotta pay," and starts digging through their purse or pockets to find their transit card or cash, holding up the bus's departure.
TTC = Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Way to "represent". Unfortunately, theft has become normalized here ...
The company tells us just drive and dont worry about the fares its the government's job to enforce it. Now no body pays but they still complain and argue with the driver then get kicked off the bus.
They just hate walking from one bus stop
6:20 i had a Dave Ramsey “call the wambulance” moment there
I never allowed anyone to swear at me...that made it a criminal matter for the police to handle...the company rule was clear and so is the ciminal code. Sometimes the police were reluctant to lay a charge but I would insist. Also the company rule allowed me to refuse that passenger boarding ever again and I did in one case.
“Put something in the box” once something went in it didn’t matter. A quarter, nickel, dime, whatever. Full fare good for you. Just don’t ask for a transfer if you didn’t pay your entire fare.
This is the method I’ve settled on so far since I started driving the city bus about 6 months ago. It seems to help weed out at least some of the potential troublemakers. It also dignifies the customer letting them pay their own fare, whatever they can afford at the time. Where I drive there’s a lot of homeless, addicts, felons and so some people literally only have changed their pocket.
After I insist on them putting something in the box it’s surprising how they magically will find a few coins to drop in them box.
@@hmmmm798 it beats a conflict any day of the week.
What gets me the most is when I wave passengers on so I can remain on time or get to my timepoint for a small break and they ask me “does it not work” 😂 Ma’am don’t worry if it works or not lol😂
I know right????!!!!! People are so backwards. I mean why in the world would you care if the box is working or not? Just keep it moving. You don’t work here. 😅😅😅
@@hmmmm798 nor do you have to worry about bus fare
I worked as a night auditor as a relief. It was free travel if you had a weekly train ticket. Midnight to dawn these services ran & the first fares had $50.00 notes for $2.20 fares - the drivers carried minimal change due to security. I used to get people on asap to move them off on their 2 hour trips home. Often the scammers used Seniors Passes to pay a flat fee then not pat the $9.90 (long trip). I could issue fines but preferred they paid the full fare - even kids for scamming the system. $9.90 was the max price compared to a $220 Fine.
I rode a late night bus last night at 11 Pm and a drunk man got on the bus. He appeared to be asking her a question but I couldn’t hear him to well because he had a foreign accent. She said walk and talk so she could get going. But she also wanted him to sit. He got upset she was telling him to sit down she said “Sir please sit down I don’t want you to get hurt” 5 times until she screamed “Bitch sit down I don’t want you to get hurt” He kept talking back to her and she said after I get off this bus I will beat the f out of you! And he still kept dragging on she tried her best to ignore him.
When I went on her bus to go back home at 12:30 am I asked her if the guy still bothered her nothing happened she said. This lady is a very nice driver. She greets me when I get on and off the bus. But I think she has ADHD or Tourettes because she would always be singing or humming and she would always shake her hand at red lights plus her reaction was crazy. She told me on the ride back she didn’t want to appear to be soft so the man didn’t hurt her anything that’s why her reaction was so serious.
3:23 _ In the 90s in Lawrence, MA, if you didn't have your fare, they would kick you off the bus.
man I would be mortified if myself or someone I knew argued with bus drivers like this. That's so embarrassing for that guy. Just pay the fare or walk if you're going a "single stop"
That clip with that one stop Douch , angers me!
In Portland, the rule of thumb is *do not address passengers* who don't pay. If it's anything I have learned over the years, it's that if I speak up (however righteously), at best, it will cause an unnecessary argument that the passenger WILL win (or at least it looks that way in their mind). Forget arguing about fare, or anything else for that matter. Now, when it comes to issues of safety, I put the person on notice. If they don't stop harassing other passengers, or doing things that are unsafe, then I ask them to get off the bus. If they won't do that, I remain cool as a cucumber, call my dispatcher, inform them of the situation, and they send a Road Supervisor. After that, I pull the bus over, secure it, open the doors, shut off the engine, and then make a public announcement to all passengers apologizing for the delay, and that, due to an unforeseen issue, the journey will not continue until it's resolved... And we wait... I don't address the problem passenger at all. Instead, I pull out one of my cruise magazines or a steamy romance novel, enjoy a good read as the minutes roll by, and remember that with each passing minute, my bank account is getting *FATTER,* and theirs isn't (in fact it's likely they don't even have a bank account at all, and if they do, it's shrinking!!). Attitude is everything, and when you treat everybody like they're your neighbor and act like everything is business as usual, the problem takes care of itself sooner or later. Either the person alights on their own volition (c'mon, I know you can walk the two blocks it takes to get to the next stop), or the other passengers get involved and bum-rush the offender out the door (I've had that happen!) - either way, everything usually gets taken care of even before the Road Supervisor shows up. I'm super nice to everybody, but nobody gets their own way on my bus anymore. I have ways of getting people to tow the line. I do it all with a smile, never argue, and don't let their crap get to me - because you know the second you let someone else's crap get to you, THEY HAVE YOU. Uh-uh. Homie don't play that no more.
In Belgium it is not our job to ask if people if they have payed or not. I don't want to get beat up for someone that has not payed. I don't get payed more or less if my passengers have payed. I just say thank you to the people that scan their cards. There is already so much driver agression going on here.
Where I'm from in Australia, anytime a passenger didn't want to pay for their bus fair or most of it if they paid a small amount of it. The money usually came out of that bus drivers pay check which isn't fair, because I remember one time this lady didn't pay the $2.50 and the bus driver we had is very kind and he ended up having to pay for the ladies bus fair because she got off and didn't want to pay. And those are the types of people yeah sure we can't get rid of, but we can try and stop which doesn't always work because of a number of reasons. Please people just pay your bus fair if you catching a bus, because some of that money can go to both new buses but also fuel money and to the bus driver's pay check. If you don't want to pay you don't catch the bus. Yeah sure if you know the bus drivers and they let you ride for free then sure maybe, but still always pay the full amount for bus fairs if your a couple dollars or cents short maybe let the bus driver know "hey I'm a couple short may I possibly pay the rest when I can?" and the bus driver may let you do that. And if you do that a lot and pay the rest like you say they'll let you here and there get on because they know your honest and still willing to pay the full amount.
Wow..so the money really does come out of the bus drivers check over there!
@@BusDriverLife Yeah basically but more out the bus drivers pockets, well at the same time kinda coming out of their pay checks. They still get paid the full on the check, they do however loss the money out of their pockets if that bus driver pays the bus fair someone doesn't want to pay. And it wasn't because the bus company told them to but it was the bus drivers desition to. And some members of the public do pay for other people's bus fair.
Im surprised the unions, where present, would let that happen. Its nice to hear though that people would consider covering a strangers fare.
I work for Sacramento regional transit back in 2017 this was common experience I had along route 51
If a passenger wants a special stop, I very calmly tell them, “Sorry, it’s not safe.” They can argue and scream until they’re blue in the face, I don’t care. They get the posted bus stop and that’s it. I don’t argue back, I just tell them to call customer service, which, they do, and nothing happens to me because I uttered the magic word: *”SAFETY.”* 😁
Not a bus driver, but a railroad Brakeman who just recently switched over from passenger service over to the freight switching/hauling side. You'd be surprised how many crazy people we got almost just like this doing similar things on the train as well.
I definitely believe you!!
I’m a truck driver and I am contemplating switching to bus driving but I’m nervous lol. I do enjoy not having to deal with anyone but I have always wanted to become a bus driver.
This is why when going into transit I chose the subway. Big cab isolated from the passengers. However, as soon as you walk out of the cab to switch ends or deal with something wrong with the train, you run into them again. And the difficult ones (like the goofballs in this video) have a target on your back. That’s why I left. The general public is too crazy for me.
Have you ever had a situation where the fare box didnt print the oass if so what do you do? It happened to me today and normally they would just fill out a card and move on with it. But the driver dudnt want to do the paper work as in fill out the card so he just got a pass on another bus at the park and ride.
I have a free travel pass in Ireland they are usually given out to Older people but disabled people get them, I am only 18 and have a invisible disability I once got accused of it been fake in Ireland and he treatend to call the police which I told him too as he would then get arrested for discrimination but I just tuke a picture of him and the bus number and reported it too Dublin Bus
We have people who do not have to pay and some do have to. I observed some who owe nothing still act as if they are entitled. Not all of them and some fuss over everything! We pick up at their residence, appointment, etc and yake them to their destination and some still go out of their way to try and make the driver feel like crap. Again not all passengers are like that.
I notice this sort of thing only ever happens when the bus is already running late, at least in Green Bay.
Like I tell the paxs, the next stop is $2, all the rest of the stops are free!
20 years as a bus driver-long retired now-never had one fare dispute cause I didn't give a damn about it- I knew my pay didn't depend on who pays and who doesn't.
Sounds peaceful!!
Ahh yes, the passenger who can't find their fare, also there's the ones that ask where a certain address is and asks the bus driver if the bus goes there. This causes a lot of delays!
The first lady remind me of Edith from Archie bunker and the second guy remind me of Archie bunker lol. I remember the fair was going up in my area pre-Covid and During Covid the fair was free, and now after covid the fair is extremely reduced ,I’ve noticed in my area for some reason there’s not as many passengers on the city bus as there was pre-Covid , i’m not for sure why because my city is a fairly big city and there used to be a lot of people riding the bus . It seems like there’s not too many school buses in my area so the high schoolers have to ride the city bus and you have people going to work and then you have the every day people getting on and off the bus.
He asked polietely and forgot to realize that he just said he "asked". I have the right to say no to your "ask"
Have your fare ready when the bus arrives, get on, pay and have a seat! It's not that difficult.
This is good information to know, thanks
I wish I could record while I’m working and upload the highlights of my shift.
I wish I could too!!
I'm a part time bus driver in Germany.
I don't care if you ride without a ticket... I'm paid to drive the bus from A to B. I don't get extra pay, or less pay for checking tickets.
But try to screw me over, I'm not afraid to call you out on your BS. I've had this... Usually from couples. They buy one ticket, go to the back of the bus and a few minutes later, come back demanding a second ticket, saying "I forgot to print it out". No, I didn't forget. You're trying to screw me over, so suck it!
Missed your stop? Sorry, you get off at the next bus stop. No, I can't just "stop here" to let you out. There are rules. Not my rules, state rules!
I have a good day job and I was in the military, so I don't care who you think you are. I'm not scared to tell you off.
I'm not gonna get fired, because you filed a complaint. Bus drivers/ all drivers are in high demand, so best tone down your attitude and act like a normal human being.
I treat people the way they treat me. Treat me well and I'll do the same. We might end up as friends. But try to start something and I'll finish it.
And if you play with the stop button, I will pull over at the next bus stop, turn off the engine and lights and wait for someone (I don't care who it is) to get off the bus. I don't care if I'm late, or that I'll lose my break. I'm gonna wait. And no, nobody can tell me to "Move it". This is Europe. And maybe all the stress got to me and I can't keep going. Maybe I need medical assistance for my psychological stress. Maybe you (as a problematic passenger) get to your destination a lot later.
Like I said, treat me well and I'll do the same for you. Look for trouble and you will find it.
You mean that heated exchange was in Toronto?
Hey Mr Keywan, i want to know how do you deal with rude passengers that don't pay their bus fare or passengers name calling you? I wonder do your bus routes be really smooth up there with SACRT?
Unprepared people are politely asked to go have seat......this keeps the bus going 🙄. I don't care about $2.50. Let's get people moving
as long as they put money into the fair box, i dont care, and my bosses dont audit the fairs
CTA all day
Maybe Craig Roberson's dad was a bus driver. Senior passes in Baton Rouge allow the elderly to ride for 35 cents.
My goal is to always say whatever shuts them up and gets them outta my face the fastest!! 😂 😂😂 That’s all I care about when driving the bus… Sit down and get out my face!!! A smile, thank you and have seat usually does the trick. Some drivers take it way too seriously. I refuse to get stressed out when driving. My paycheck is the same regardless
One thing the TTC video shows is that not all Canadians are nice people. We have plenty nasty people here. I deal with ppl like that on occasion, although this person was particularly aggressive. Kudos to the TTC driver who kept their cool.
I don’t argue with passengers who don’t have full bus fare I just tell them to have it next time. if they try to sneak on the bus without paying then they will be asked to leave.
Luckily I haven't had to many issues on the agency I ride most of the drivers are nice and very understanding
So u don’t pay?
6:58... we don't let passengers stay on bus after last stop.. got to go. The last stop and first stop are never the same place on our routes
My personal opinion is if you can pay the fare, you should pay the fare. I've also experienced it when i dumped my change in too fast. Long story short a ride (which includes a 90 minute transfer) cost $2.50 and a day pass cost $5.00 (weekends / holidays only) and the beep went off when 2.50 was paid to let the operator know the full fare was paid. I once dumped twenty quarters into the farebox and had a dispute with the driver didnt see me put in the $5. Very annoying i get where the operator is coming from totally do, and I should have put ten quarters in, beep, then ten more, beep and then there would be no dispute. But I wanted my day pass which i paid for. Another time, I put ten quarters in and the operator told me i was a dime or nickel short. I'm like ??... I always counted my change before I got on made sure it was right.
Nowadays, I use a transit farecard so no more fare disputes for me. Just tap my card and go on with my day. Do they have those in Sacramento? I remember the first time i used one of those the operator was confused didn't know what i did. They looked at their system and it indeed showed them a valid tap was made. This wasn't as much of a dispute as the operator learning how the system worked, which is amazing.
Another time, i put
Regular bus rider i totally wouldn't tell off a driver a lot of the drivers that I know from the local transit system I use see me on a regular basis a lot of them if you didn't have your pass or fare ready they would just say hey just pay when you get off or just pay twice next time if you didn't have it the 1st time the last guy good grief just walk a block or 2 if the stop wasn't that far to begin with
I'm a bus driver it's gotten to the point one stop half a stop the whole way. I don't have nothing to stay. Just don't ask me for directions don't thank me nothing. And if I see you again or in the same day I will pass them by. Sorry not sorry assaults on Transportation Workers are up. NYCTA.
I would have popped the break so fast on this Drama King it would have made his head spin. In my city when the passengers hear that Pissssshhhhhhh!!!!!!!sound they know it’s going to be a long bus ride to their destination. A lot of times other people on my bus will just pay the fair for the jive turkey that’s causing trouble in order to keep the bus moving.
I'm not going to be happy with that I have not received anything from him
Again, this couldn't be Miami because that guy would have gotten cussed out by the other passengers for holding up the bus with all his yelling at the driver.
What's up, how can I contact you Keywan?? I would like to do a video call with you on a lot of bus topics... I'm a bus op.
Sir, you can either pay or get off the bus. If you don't pay I will have law enforcement remove you.
Yo it’s the TTC this is everyday occurrence, like I said , it’s everyday, bus drivers get assaulted, even know the ATU has a zero tolerance policy for drivers assult
I operated a bus for VTA in santa clara county for 5 years now i went to lightrail which i love doing because i dont have sit in traffic and im in my own cab where i dont have to deal passenger as much.
ATU LOCAL 265
On Trimet people walk by without paying all the time
Don't have your pass ready? You should have it ready to go before those doors even open, no excuses. You can wait until the others are on board, if you still don't have it ready then you can wait for the next one. Not waiting for someone that thinks up stupid games.
You don't pay, off the bus or you get a fine. That simple. (50 Euro + costs for the ride = 55 USD + costs for the trip)
However in the case you point to as a real life example, that would mean the police would get involved and that passenger would get fined for that and perhaps even arrested.
Sometimes I pay and just go three stops not a big deal beats walking especially in the summer besides stop is like a block from my house luckily two lines serve my area 1.75 cheaper than the gas or urber or a taxi. So drop a buck 75 and off I go. Nice deal if you ask me. Cheaper than the Starbucks
How about a video of people making up their own bus stops on the side of the road?. I mean there are some drivers that'll actually stop for you if you wave them down.
I had to dig in a bus drivers ass, not too long ago. The driver was turning very very fast to where I slid out of my seat mind you I have been a bus operator myself for almost 30 years. He Got very quiet and drove like he had some damn sense once I let him know I didn’t come on the bus bragging or anything like that but he was driving was reckless. And I told him on the straightaways it’s cool but when you’re turning, you have people sitting behind you 5 to 8 mph is as fast as you need to go in a turn plus he was rude as hell I took the rudeness but me sliding out of My seat pissed me off after I finish berating I gave him $20 for lunch 😂😂😂He’s pretty cool now, but I was not playing that bullshit.
Well bro I ride Paratransit which is a door to door bus service for those with disabilities and believe me I've had some idiot drivers, and one in particular was really nasty with me one day! Probably my worst experience riding paratransit and I've ridden for 26 years. That being said, I've had some really good drivers too, and I know they work hard and get shit from shithead passengers too.
just let them get on , you get paid regardless , why risk it , its not worth it and theyve paid enough tax dollars to support the bus system and your wages
Do drivers push their layover time over the scheduled time because they felt cheated of their layover due to running late.
Nope, if you’re running late by 10 minutes and your layover is 10 minutes you have to keep going.
If you got use the facilities just have to do so it is what it is.
When it comes to fares lots of transit train operators to not even say anything anymore. You put a quarter, here is a transfer. Sorry I just filled my card with money, ok sit down. I think in the fares are not worth the drivers life, than the company has more issues also like lawsuits and all. Plus imagine the stress all day of fighting over it every ride, focus on driving with less pressure on the mind is safer for those that did pay and deserve arrival safe at their destination.
Fares are a waste of time. Get in the damn bus and let’s gooooo!
Then you don't need to ride. If you are utilizing a service, YOU PAY!!!! If you can't pay, DON'T RIDE!!!!
@@ThePumpin1 meh, when I drove a bus I didn’t care. Pay, don’t pay, whatever.
Fare recovery is such a miniscule portion of the budget for most systems. Now, its still important due to underfunding in the first place(every dollar counts), but still. Dealing with fare issues just delays the bus more, causing unreliability, which discourages use, which just adds to no one wanting to fund transit in the first place. Plus it would be dumb to die over a couple bucks...
This was just on the news from Boston. Bus drivers enduring all kinds of trouble every day: th-cam.com/video/vjpGowBSPD4/w-d-xo.html
About that "one stop" guy, he is just trying to get over. Everyone else who rides public transportation realizes you have to PAY for the service!!! It isn't about the stop you get off at. You are utilizing a service; you have to pay for it. In all that time this person was arguing with the bus driver, he could have already been where he needed to go. There has only been one time I didn't pay for a bus ride. I was in Chicago, and I had my CTA transit pass. I put it in the machine, and it said it had expired. Now I knew I had just bought a pass, so I didn't understand why it was expired. I was getting ready to get off of the bus and walk to get another pass, but the driver just let me on anyway. I wasn't trying to pull a fast one, I really thought the pass was still good. So, while I am one the bus, I am looking through my wallet and found the pass that I purchased. Turns out, I didn't throw the expired pass away. To be honest, I was slightly embarrassed (getting on for free) because I didn't want the driver to think I was trying to mooch a ride. If I use a service, I pay.
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@@BusDriverLife how's it going buddy
What you do in this situation like a driver is : you don't move the bus so passengers get up set with the fare evader so passenger will harm the fare evader
Got my cdl and ask to come aboard and drive how ever they only want to pay $17.95 which is a joke. When I can make 10. 00 more else where. Not only the pay putting up with plenty of KARENS
I have seen it as a bus rider where people get on the bus and they are searching,,, and searching,,,, and searching,,, for the fair. It’s like people don’t have their stuff together. I mean if you know,,, you ar riding a bus have your fair together. I pay on my phone and what i end up doing is bring the app that i use for tranzit up and having that ready so when I get on board the bus driver sees what i have and itis their. Their is no rummaging around or forgetting. It’s called Bering curtious. The things that some people do as a fellow passenger is really nuts. I wish everyone would quoperate and do what they are gold. This is why so many people have problems on the bus cause they think the driver is rude or something when it was the passenger but yet they want to blame the driver. Shows you that the passenger is not correct. The driver always,,, has the say cause they are in charge not us as passengers. It irks me that people do this kind of garbage to our bus drivers. It’s not O.K. People think they are entitled to something.
Do you mean their bus FARE? Do you mean TRANSIT? Do you mean BEING? Do you mean COOPERATE? Do you mean TOLD? Do you mean COURTEOUS? A lot of misspellings in this post.
Yea it is the spell check on the phone. Hahaha went to correct that and it put the word in hahahahaha. But that is correct. It was spell check that auto put those words in their and replaced them hahahah. Yes that is correct.
They should have those people get community service cleaning buses and or a small fine x every rider on the bus or in line at the time.