Hornby Toby vs Bachmann Toby Review: Thomas & Friends Range UK vs USA!!!
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- "Hornby Toby VS Bachmann Toby"
A product review which looks at the top two models of Toby the Tram Engine, sold in the United Kingdom, and the United States of America, and made by the companies Hornby & Bachmann respectively.
The two models are put through their paces, with style, speed and sheer POWER tested to the limit!
The review finishes with a startling conclusion: which will come out on top?
Parents will find buying the Thomas & Friends engine of choice easier with Hornby VS Bachmann....!
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Recommended Retail Prices are correct as of 23/04/2011.
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I prefer the Bachmann models of both Toby and Edward because they're slower, smaller and weaker than the engines their tooling is based on, making it more realistic to the show and books (except for that RWS/magazine story where Toby is able to pull 40 trucks)
good night all, have a great Easter..!
Here is big boy in real life,
A N D H E R E I S T O B Y
here is a g scale big boy and here is toby.
No such model exists.
There is a Gauge 1 Big Boy, but a G scale standard gauge locomotive is impossible.
okay
here is an ACTUAL big boy. and here is Toby.
+AlmostKentish (Jack Rand/RCLR) haha
+RockyRailroad Animation That's not true. Look at the Thomas & Friends range of G scale models.
I got a kick out of the part "Here is a ____ ... and here's Toby." Hilarious, sad because he's so huge, but hilarious.
Review was very enjoyable, worth the wait. Liked all the little quirks in there, made for an.. interesting viewing experience. Almost didn't get the bit at the end with the garden sheds, those Thomas's are sneaky ones aren't they? I hope a big, blue engine will be around for the next review to teach Thomas a lesson again..!
@TMRReturns opps thanks so it's 65 years, mind you some will argue this!
Here is a Hornby LNER 0-6-2 N2
And here is Toby.
Its abasolutely insane how much the prices for Bachmann's models have skyrocketed, Toby now retails for 119$, which is crazy, since as a simple and fairly old model, the prices should be going down, not exponentially higher!
These videos bring me such a nostalgia
pssst, hey you should do a Hornby vs Bachmann Henry or Gordon
@simierski i believe I have some of that clockwork stuff at my place, mine is as big as HO stuff BUT has toy wheels, definitely has Hornby under it.
i actually have heaps of Thomas stuff, it lands on me all the time
@123emilymason this is not the first time you have asked this, pretty sure simierski has told you the state of Lady
on James v James your query is replied to in full I see!
A definite fave here, chap - not just for the usual comical/in-depth review but for the plentiful visual gags thrown in. From the Tender Swap to the Coply Hill Engines all dwarfed by Hornby's Toby XD
This is amazing, Toby is out performing Thomas, Percy and James
Definitely the grey man in Thomas gang!
Hi leo
Honors for this video (18)
Toby is popular, watch out Thomas!
@tomatojamsam - if you must know, I've been ill recently. Doing my best - there were quite a lot more visual "quotes" this time around. I do my best - people in the last video said I rushed the narration, so I slowed it down for this one. Simply can't win!
Speed isn't everything
-James
@simierski pt3 i know now a little more as I know the result from my son choosing between Tomy Thomas and Action Thomas, this has really detailed to me a very interesting aspect to the appeal of Thomas to a very young mind.
It's really powerful stuff, and I will even say it's life changing for many.
What other train in recent history has had such a impact on children? And really the hobby of model railways owes lots to the little blue engine.
@simierski well on TV here is a very old long film called The 10 Commandments, how can you sleep seeing such a classic!
Well in the tv series of Thomas and friends, Toby said “I’m built to go slow” so Bachman made him be a slow tram engine.
0:12 Is Henry wearing one of Gordon's faces?
Yeah, he is lol
Omg it’s Gordon green #gordonwithhenryface
@TMRReturns there are a few in the local model train realm who know me, but as I do fantasy work I feel no one ever takes me seriously
as soon as I mentioned I was running ERTL Thomas on HO I think most write me off as a loon
how could you take such a thought seriously?
@simierski and most importantly I hit the THUMBS UP, something many fail to do!
FEATURED, thanks for your massive support of late, lets make TOBY a star
Excellently detailed review, Simon. As for my vote: I think you should do Henry next.
1:10 It's the British Railway Stories Stephen!!! Nice to see you here old friend.
*And here's TOBY*
@simierski pt5, there is one thing which is really powerful and that's the toys and play which young children end up remembering all through their life, they will have flashback reminders of all the good things via this toy, and I know from the comments I have seen Thomas is a key component to so many people.
Those McD happy meal toys work on this principal, on my video much older people look back with good memories related to toys they remember, in a flash they are kids again
@simierski pt2, i have him lined up to do a video about but I will also wrap around it a Christmas story. He said to me the only benefit adding Thomas and Percy to his layout was all of a sudden kids started to love his railway, before this his layout was basically ignored
he really had me thinking about the magnetic attraction of Thomas, and from that came the thought to see if I can nail down exactly what kids see in Thomas, is it the face, colour scheme or shape.
i like when the other engines are running in the background. I know who is next, Bill & Ben?
@TheRyanCarMan Lady is yet another flash in the pan character, thats a big trait of this franchise.
@XBrucePatX - it's 3-1 at the moment - who will win the next one?
Don't forget to vote!
I never thought I'd say this but I actually like the Bachmann Toby's face; now that there is a stunner as I pretty much dislike all the Bachmann Thomas faces but it's clear that this Bachmann Toby beats the Hornby Toby by a long shot. The Bachmann Toby is among Bachmann's best and arguably has the best face too. Another splendid review and while I knew it would be interesting it exceeded my expectations! :)
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*_AND HERE IS TOBY_*
I see you have bought another On30 2-6-0. I am intrigued to say the least!
I would like to see Bill & Ben reviewed next.
@dkbmaestrorules - one of the tobys failed prior to the team tug of war (filmed directly after the single tug of war, which is filmed in sequence after the main comparison footage, haulage and speed tests). I had to come up with something to continue the tug of war - it was entirely meant in jest and was an aside to the "1" motif of thomas, if nothing else.
@simierski the spam thing would be due to my many comments here, youtube hates spammers.
I feel much of Toby's appeal is he's so different to the other bright coloured big personality engines, he comes with a lot less baggage.
It's so easy to say Gordon or Spencer is beat, and sure they are the BIG characters, but as we know having a big character does not impress everyone.
Being mundane can have huge advantages in a alpha male stand off!
Real mojo comes in all shapes and sizes!
look at this garden shed go
i would laugh so hard if this shed is more popular than Gordon or Spencer over time, now that would send shock waves through the Thomas community
I always thought of this but I think that in the episode Cows we see a shot of Edward, Gordon, and Toby in a siding together and Toby was taller than Gordon which is a cousin of the LNER A3 Flying Scotsman because Gordon was an A1 and the A1s were rebuild into the A3s.
simierski, have yoru considered looking at the larger scale bachmann v the large scale thomas
i know this would cost heaps of money but I am hearing the G scale thomas has some major issues and is a real cheap build
what have you heard
"Pair of garden sheds" haha
Great video as usual. my vote for Edward from last video still stands.
@TheRyanCarMan - vote noted - and if I were a betting man, the Bachmann Toby would make a half decent J70 - but the old K's model that Crovansgate009 has worked on is the best model of the J70 currently on the market.
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@thatguywithnoaccount - vote noted, and the QC for the Bachmann models keeps coming up - maybe I should test their longevity in a future video...
@Gameking53 - thanks very much - any character you'd like to see next?
Sir Ralph: "I cannot wait for this next review, Spencer is a fine example of our class, he will win the speed run no dobut about it" ^_^
AND HERE'S TOBY
why would one tuber thumb down this video?
there is always one in the crowd who is the loner, the person who can't express themselves in a nice way, the one who is a fail.
it really sickens me these sorts are allowed to prowl around without being named, but rest assure this video will achieve a status the thumb down troll could only ever dream of, as hate trolls never succeed on these networks.
shame on you, you sicken all of us who respect the work in this video.
@simierski pt1 there is a G scale modeller close to where I live, his layout is in his front yard. He was telling me the issues he's had with the Hornby Thomas G scale and reported to me it's basically expensive trash, I say expensive as you pay a premium because of it's connection to the franchise.
He's had lots of issues with the motor and basically reports it runs like a dog. Now you have to consider many G scale modellers choose G scale because they enjoy taking the hobby to the next level
@sonicxthomasexpert well if simierski does Spencer it will be interesting to see if it is as popular as Toby. Who would have thought a square dirt coloured tram would be soooooooo popular. It certainly caught me by surprise.
Another fine review, Simon. Seems Hornby's winning so far, but I would probably go for the Bachmann Toby anyway. It may not be fast or strong, but I think it captures the character perfectly, and to me that's what counts, for this model at least ;)
Do you know, Simon, I reckon the bit with garden sheds being faster than Toby is another benefit of sorts, because the J70s never travelled much faster than 30mph.
If you haven't got him I wish you the best of luck on obtaining one; apart from reviews owning him would be a pleasure :) I have no Hornby Thomas stuff or anything but with it's increasing rarity of some characters I'm starting to think I should buy some.
@leokimvideo - thanks leo - absolute star, given how late you've stayed up to host this! :)
I Personally Think That HORNBY Toby Would Be Better Because Hornby’s Thomas Models While They Did Have Problems With Scaling And Proportions. They DID Have Good And Reliable Mechanisms When Compared To Bachmann’s. Bachmann’s Wheel Sets Slot Into Squared Slots With No Bearings Leading To More Friction Which Equals To A Shorter Motor Life And Sometimes By A Significant Margin. I Like To Look At It Like The Higher Price Is More Equated To Longevity NOT Just Detail. That’s My Take.
why was Gordon and henrys parts and faces switched
I don't know, but I've seen something like this in a magazine story before when Gordon and Henry switched tenders. And possibly in an episode in the TV series.
I think that's true.
cuz theyre gay trains
Mohamed buhdeima They can't be
@therailwayinspector3 i would argue the detail aspect related to kids.
kids scrutinize this stuff way more than adults do, they are far more picky about actual look than most adults. children suffering autism will look over them with a even greater search for fine details and traits connecting them to the real deal.
over the last 4 years I have had many mails from parents explaining to me aspects of autism and the connection to trains, what I have learned is very interesting indeed.
@TMRReturns dare say the thing to do is swap out the Hornby motor and wheels and bet a bit of extra grunt under there, it's such ashame Bachmann make such weak toys
@TheClaudHamilton - actually, one of the four models failed before the tug of war, so it would have been a pretty one sided event anyway (not affecting the outcome in any way...!)
0:12 Henry with Gordon’s face
I think that it would be cool if the next review (or, at least, one of the next reviews) would either be Bill and Ben or Henry.
A yes! An American one wins! Not that I don't like Hornby, but I only have Bachmann myself. Another great review. If Bachmann had better motors and/or chassis, I think they would win a few more. But as I said, great review as always! Do you think one could take a Bachmann model and convert it into a "J70"? I know it's loosely based on it, but it wouldn't look TOO bad. My vote is a review on Edward!
Thanks Simierski for the Toby Review.
And well done on another review I found it very interesting I liked the Tug of war scene.
So the Bachmann and Hornby Toby's are just as bad as each other, garden shed indeed.
Could you do Henry next?
May I just mention how he made up that rule In the bonus footage just so that the Toby's didn't get embarrassed because he knew they would lose anyways
does bachmann do Spencer, if so he would be a good one to do
Results music: Rock over London by Kevin MacLEod
Tug of War theme: Stoneworld Battle by Kevin MacLeod
Am hoping to buy Toby soon, hornby Toby would be perfect if smaller. I have hornby one. Just heard his TV series model was stolen from drayton manor
@Klurty34 i agree, the Hornby face looks less 'gay'
thats gay in the old style of the word, not today's version!
I'm actually considering getting a Hornby Toby, throwing the body away, or selling it on Ebay. Keeping the face and chassis with motor, and use the face on a truck/van and use the chassis on another engine.
bachmann Toby certainly is a beautiful model. shame it's rather slow though. I only got it today but I am already pleased I got it. I also got Mavis so I've been doing shunting work on my trainset.
Hey Simierski do you have Hornby Henry? :) I know you've noted my vote but I'm just curious since he's not available anymore on the Hornby site.
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@TheRyanCarMan I have a Lady ERTL which has a HO wheel conversion, it can be seen in my last upload!
so to be totally correct there are models of Lady,and I have a HO one!
dare say the argument will continue for weeks, months to come. why stop now!
It is about time you included a southern railway engine. Also, didn't Scott used to be 4472, because flying Scotsman used to be BR 60103 and it's scott's number 60103. Where is he any way?
@Zorran202 - not sure how in depth it would be, given one has been discontinued...
@leokimvideo - it's strange - I wonder if its the personality that comes with the character too?
So many people cite Edward as their favourite character, and its always down to the characteristics which to some extent Toby shares. Is it because Toby is not conventional in look that people seem to have hidden their fondness for this character?
@AaronIzzard - yep - a few nods and intentional bloopers that were originally seen in the television series!
@simierski Diesel is another of my favs, i like the drab coloured characters
Quite an interesting review, Simon - and rather quirky too, particularly on the "garden shed" description of Toby. I reckon Emily next.
Seriously though, did Thomas and Thomas manage to outperform Toby and Toby, or did the opposite happen and cause you some embarrassment in making it a fair contest? Not trying to criticise, I'm just curious.
I truly enjoy these! Great Idea! Please keep them coming!
@Galisoneh - that's a reference to a Thomas & Friends episode... :)
just sent it out to my friends list, good luck see who bites
I was wondering if a Bachmann branchline model could be compared with a Hornby counterpart "Same locomotive, different manufacturer." For example a Hornby peppercorn A1 could be compared with a Bachmann peppercorn A1.
@tencents6 - basic gist was that one of the four models stopped working prior to the shoot, so doing a tug of war would have been unfair. Of course, team thomas always wins anyway...!
@leokimvideo - not sure why people marked your comment as spam, but I've unmarked it.
Tell you what, Toby is the sleeping giant of Thomas & Friends. I've heard a lot of people say they don't like Gordon, Thomas, Emily, Lady and so on, but not a single bad word for Toby. This video has opened my eyes to the power of the tram engine. I'll have to retract the garden shed comment, of course...!
Oh yeah, is there also a Hornby version of Bertie? If so, is it possible to review that and Bachmann Bertie?
@sgprailfan - no as the Bachmann Toby shell is too small for the hornby motor drive. If Bachmann toby had all wheel drive, it would be a different matter.
We all know the best one is the Rapido J70
I like the Toby's/Tobys/Tobies
@Bachmannmodeler - thats interesting, what problems did you have?
@leokimvideo yes, I am aware of some conversions! I have seen yours and topkazfatt's models, which both look very good! thing is, the one user has been told there are no Hornby or Bachmann models to compare, so his comments are meaningless! Though, it would be very interesting to compare homemade Lady models!
here is the 4-8-8-4 usa big boy loco..
and here is Toby
@thedutchmasterking - yes indeed - a little aside to a season 4 episode where this actually occurred!
I think the speed trial should've gone with who's slower, considering the J70's weren't exactly express engines.
@simierski i would hate to think how much all this is costing you, not only in models but actual time to produce these videos
thats the big issue with the tube, everyone ( myself included) tend to forget there are no free lunches on the tube. We all look at these amazing videos and really never consider the real costs of production.
And i can assure you the income from advertising is very low, unless your FRED it's almost a joke.
I hope tubers respect this when demanding reviews.
I agree with dstu09. Do edward next. Then gordon or spencer.
ok i give up
now i vote for Lady
if your can't beat em, join em
After I got over that extremely huge hook on the buffer beam (that I guess is supposed to look like his coupler) the Bachmann one is better in my opinion as well, I think Bachmann has Toby's face size and colour right, but the expression on the Hornby one reminds me of the character more.
Now I'm just going to sit and wonder why I have started watching videos of Thomas models.
@ColumbiaAndHoodRiver - a reference to "it's good to be Gordon" :)