RV Solar System Lessons Learned

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  • @NeverStopAdventuring
    @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for watching! You can catch up on the original battery upgrade and solar install if you haven't seen it here: th-cam.com/play/PLH9-NXsf-RaJ9mwXQ4gu60oDlG-jwbfF-.html Remember to subscribe and click the notification bell so you don't miss our next video! We'll be back with another RV travel video as we take you to Cathedral Gorge State Park in NV.

    • @terryrodbourn2793
      @terryrodbourn2793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you should invest in some carry solar panels (that you store traveling) to supplement your solar install system!

    • @AskRemy
      @AskRemy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terryrodbourn2793 if he is maxed out then additional panels would require a second MPPT controller and that’s a big mess

    • @shivesja
      @shivesja ปีที่แล้ว

      👰🏿😍😈😶‍🌫️🇪🇷🇭🇳

  • @douglashilton4048
    @douglashilton4048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 40 ft motorhome with 4,350 watts of solar, 15,360 watts of battery (48 volt system), and a 6,000 watt 240/120 split phase inverter. been running it for 2 years, in sunny parts of the US I save about $75 a month on shore power bill. Went boondocking out west for 27 straight days, only solar for power. System has been working good, I can run AC, electric hot water, heat pump, what ever I need on solar. The cost was $8k with no labor.

  • @donf3877
    @donf3877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Glad to see your system is working for you. The biggest issue is the 1960's technology RV AC units. I have a much older (1991) motorhome than your unit, so modifying it wasn't a concern for me. I removed the rooftop units and filled in the holes, which gave me not only more room for panels, but also more freedom in placement and no shadows. Nine 265 watt panels, plus a tenth on a separate charge controller and small battery bank and inverter as back-up for the 120 volt frig and chest freezer (a whole different story) just in case the main system runs out of juice at night (only a few times, but worth it for the piece of mind. I have the main inverter set to kick out early to extent the life of the batteries). With the chest freezer I buy good meat in bulk when I find it, so there is probably a thousand dollars worth of meat in it.
    Back to the main subject. I installed a 12,000 BTU mini-split system in the living room area, and a 9,000 in the bedroom. The bedroom unit is set for 68 degrees all night in the summer! With both units running at max cool or heat (the compressor ramps up and down depending on the load and need, so they do not run on max all the time), they use slightly LESS combined than ONE RV unit on cool. And on heat, they put out the same BTU's as on cool. The other BIG plus is... even on max (the circulation fan also ramps up and down) they are QUIET. Siting on the reclining loveseat or laying in bed, you can't hear them running. The RV industry just assumes people will go from one campground to the next and be plugged into 50 amp hook-ups every day. That's not how I operate... and neither do you... and neither do any of the other people that boondock.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great setup! I know someone who remodeled a travel trailer and uses a mini-split to heat and cool the place. Definitely way more efficient than a standard RV AC. Where do you mount the outdoor unit? I imagine the back bumper would be the only place to put it. Do you run them at night when boondocking too?

    • @donf3877
      @donf3877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring My motorhome is a basement model. The front 'outside' unit is mounted width ways (small end out) in a smallish storage area between the front wheels and the side door on the passenger side. I built a sheet metal block floor the ceiling in the center of the unit to keep the intake and exhaust separated and there are two large vents front and rear on the door. So far I've had no problems with it mounted that way. The inside unit is mounted above the windshield on the front of what was a worthless cabinet, so it blows straight down the center. The slightly smaller rear outside unit is mounted the same way where the 8,000 watt Onan (almost 3/4 gallon of gas a hour!) used to be mounted long ways. And, there was enough room to mount the 3100 watt Champion inverter generator beside it! The rear inside unit is mounted above the rear window so it blows back towards the front.
      Oh yeah, the rear one is set at 68 degrees max... and many times 65 or even 62 at night. I have 'issues' with my joints (the VA has no idea of course... other than prescribe opiate pain meds which I will not take!). There are to additional 32 gallon water tanks mounted on the pass-thru part of the basement in front of the rear wheels. Through a series of electric solenoid valves, and an additional water pump and water heater, I can use water from the front one, and it drains from the bathtub back into the rear one. Then through more solenoid valves, I transfer the water back to the front one. All this so I can take a very hot shower with the stopper in so it's filling the bathtub, and then a 110 degree bath. That's why the rear AC runs all night and sometimes at 62 degrees. The damn bathtub soak heats me up and I would sweat to death without the AC running :( I don't wash, just soak, so a cap full of bleach keeps that water fresh for 2-3 weeks. I installed a 600 watt Hott Rod (or Hot Rodd, I can't remember which) in the drain of both water heaters. If I have to take more than two showers and baths in one night... the batteries get very low. That's when the back-up system keeps the fridge and freezer going until the solar can kick in the next morning. I'm by myself so, if it wasn't for the need of the bathtub and extra water tanks, I could get by with a much smaller RV. But hey... we do what we have to do to get out there and enjoy ourselves, right???

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don, that's fantastic! Pretty amazing what can be added to an RV. I'm glad you are able to do all that to manage your joint issues and keep on enjoying the great outdoors! Sounds like you have your own personal mobile hot springs 😀 You're absolutely right about doing what we what we have to do to enjoy ourselves and live comfortably. That's probably the most ingenious setup for a mini split that I've ever heard of. Maybe it's more common and I just never see it when the outdoor units are tucked away like that. Thanks for sharing!

    • @pullbackbaby
      @pullbackbaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donf3877 Don I just subscribed to you I would love to see a video that you post describing some of your systems and how you have that separate one as a backup for your freezer. Great work indeed something I aspire to and will probably get around to doing eventually. Amazing thank you as is this video which attracted both of us!

    • @donf3877
      @donf3877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pullbackbaby Yeah... no videos... and I'm done on the road. I was on my way back to Florida when I sent those comments. The day after I got back... I was diagnosed with lung cancer at the VA. Had an operation, but they couldn't get it all. Too close to my throat. So next was weeks and weeks of radiation treatments. After that I endured two of four chemo treatment that just about killed me. My weight had gone from 189 to 148 and my white cell blood count was through the roof. Then another MRI and... the cancer had hit both adrenal glands (common with lung cancer I guess). So now I'm on a different chemo which, thank god, I don't have any side effects from. That, and steroids since the glands aren't putting out any. I've gained some of my weight back... and feel much better. But... the chemo isn't to cure me now... it's to keep the cancer in remission. I checked it out as soon as I started the new chemo. There's a VA hospital in Salt Lake City... in Phoenix... and in Vegas. Nothing in between. And... I have to get the chemo every three weeks basically forever. The reason I set my motorhome up the way I did... I HAD to live on BLM land. My social security wasn't enough for me to be running the motorhome all over the place all the time or pay to "camp". Set for two weeks and explore off-road a little in the Jimmy. Move 50-100 miles or so and do it again. That is what I could afford. Now, I would just get comfortable... and have to drive it 300-400 miles or more to get a treatment. The $$$ just isn't there for me to do that. That plus......... the Jimmy had a dead battery a few weeks back, so I hooked the jumper cables to it from my old beater pick-up. It was hot, and I ain't got my strength back, so I went back in the house to the A/C figuring in 15 minutes or so I could go back out and start it. Five minutes later I heard a poof. Looked outside, and it was the left front tire exploding on the pick-up. Both it and the Jimmy were up in flames. I guess the newer cars with all the electronics, you are supposed to hook the ground jumper cable to the engine instead of the battery. I didn't know that. The fire department got here quick... but the pick-up and the Jimmy was a total lose. Plus, they were close enough to the motorhome to destroy the windshield and the fibreglass front end. The insurance company was quick on a settlement for the Jimmy... but I had no insurance on the pick-up... and I dropped the insurance on the motorhome since it wasn't going anywhere for a while. Guessing I don't have to worry about the distance to the VA hospitals out west anymore :(
      Anywho... the back-up system was pretty straight forward. The main system was nine 265 watt panels wired three sets of three in series (ALWAYS wire series - parallel. My series sets were putting out enough to start the charge controllers 10-15 minutes after sunup, and run up to 96 volts max). Then, instead of parallel, each set ran through a separate MPPT controller (ALWAYS use MPPT's) to eight 6 volt Trojan golf cart batteries (900 amp/hours). I could lose a panel or even a charge controller, and still be charging. Always consider worst case when planning a system!!! The back-up system was just a separate small solar charger system. One extra panel (I got all mine used - and dirt cheap), with one small MPPT charge controller (The panels I used could put out 32 volts so anything over 13.8 would be wasted without a MPPT), and a two Trojan battery bank (6 volt + 6 volt = 12 volt @ 225 amp/hours). ALL my batteries were standard 6 volt Trojan golf cart batteries. Pulling out the dinette and sleeper sofa and RV fridge, plus replacing all the 3/4" chipboard cabinets, and ditching the big genset, I had the ability to carry the weight. And... I got them for $97.50 each brand new!!! Check Craigslist where you live!!! Then I used a standard auto-transfer switch (like for genset/shore power) and connected it to the output of the main inverter. When it shut down, the auto-transfer switch tripped. Through standard 120 volt relays, it turned the small inverter on (via the remote switch jack), and switched the circuits for the fridge and freezer over to it. When the big system started charging again, the main inverter fired back up... and the auto-transfer switch shut the small invert down and transferred the fridge and freezer back to the main batteries. And, of course, the back-up batteries were being charged back up by the extra 10th solar panel.
      I had a large system, for a RV that is. A smaller RV??? Just one mini-split, so the system can be halved. And, you must think about EVERYTHING. A woman's hair dryer... 1200 watts. A toaster, an electric frying pan... also out. That plus all LED lighting. Always think conserving electricity when you are running off solar and batteries!!! Hope this helped you. If you need more information... just reply here. Good luck... and get out there on the road!!!

  • @AdamandMadalyn
    @AdamandMadalyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thats a legit setup, don't have an RV but loved learning about everything in the vid!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It definitely provides all the power we need!

    • @DeFiDuke
      @DeFiDuke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi maybe you can help.. I have a 2021 flair 29m and have some CIGS panels i want to put on the roof - I don't see any pre-wired boxes or anything to connect to.. so I'm wondering if I can use the existing front winegard location or satellite cut-out towards the back ? I don't use those. (would it be hard to phish the solar wires thru?) - also I am upgrading to lithium and have a separate oupes mega2 solar genearator that is stored in the electric compartment that has an RV outlet which actually powers the A/C with the softstart i just installed.... thanks! @@NeverStopAdventuring

  • @chrispierce8525
    @chrispierce8525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel and awesome video and great info! We are working on our solar install and have some questions but will go back and find your install vid. Great location pics and thanks for the info!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Arizona is sorta the poster child for solar. Especially for an RV in the winter time 😆 Good luck with your install!

  • @Kangenpower7
    @Kangenpower7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solar panels produce less power when they get hot. I installed rigid solar panels, with about 1" of clearance between my roof and the panels to keep them cooler. I can also tilt my solar panels if I wanted to stay parked for more than a week. I installed my wiring from the roof to the refrigerator cover and then to the basement where my battery is.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of our major concerns was how much weight we were adding, which is why I did it this way. Do you tilt yours manually?

  • @lawrencedavidson6195
    @lawrencedavidson6195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To add more solar power, you could get some external panels that you could place outside on the ground pointing to the sun directly. Then just disconnect and pack them away when you are ready to move again. Greetings from sunny Jamaica.

  • @ToriBurton228
    @ToriBurton228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, thoughtful information! Love the idea of being able to boondock and have back up options to keep you running no matter what!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Boondocking has quickly become our favorite way to RV now!

  • @birybenjamin3522
    @birybenjamin3522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! When I get some time, I'm looking forward to comparing a new panel to our 2yr old ones to see how they've degraded.

  • @markferrick10
    @markferrick10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for your update. I am curious about the longevity of the flexible panels. I have heard that the fail sooner than hard case panels. Please keep us updated at to your systems stability. I ready like your setup, especially the panel mounting.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No doubt rigid panels will last longer. But with rigid panels having a 25 year lifespan, if I get 5-10 years out of these I'll be happy. For what it's worth, these flex panels are rated for 25 years. I'm quickly approaching the 1 year mark with them and they don't look new anymore. However, power output wise, they're still doing great.

    • @migmigjohnson6083
      @migmigjohnson6083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverStopAdventuring Good luck dude. My flex panels lost 80% of their rated capability in 2 years, so your low expectations aren’t nearly low enough.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@migmigjohnson6083 What brand of panels were you using? If that were to happen to us, it would fall under Renogy's power output warranty and we'd get new panels. Definitely not saying that it couldn't happen, but hey, Renogy has a decent warranty at least.

    • @migmigjohnson6083
      @migmigjohnson6083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring Not sure of brand name. Definitely not a popular brand. You think that’s that’s the problem?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@migmigjohnson6083 maybe, I know they don't all have the same manufacturing standards and don't all offer a warranty that guarantees their product. I'm going to do a side by side test with a new Renogy panel vs the old when I get around to replacing the one that came off our roof!

  • @michaeldean3771
    @michaeldean3771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black wire ties tend to brittle faster than white/ clear nylon ones in outdoor direct sun

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will definitely keep an eye on them! These particular black zip ties are UV resistant. I wasn't aware they made UV resistant white/clear ones. Could be that's just what I was used to in my technician days...

  • @leroijr407
    @leroijr407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.

  • @43ten43
    @43ten43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your videos. Based on your blog posts and lists, it looks like it cost bout $17,300 for the total system (9400 + 7900). Quite a bit of money, but it is definitely one of the nicest and most thorough installations I have seen! It's a luxury over a generator (only), but it must be so nice to boondock anywhere. I have a much smaller trailer, and I'm in the midst of a 3.6kW install with between 400w-800w of solar. I plan on using my Honda eu2200i much more often than you probably need to, but it'll save me quite a bit of money at the expensive of noise and convenience.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It was definitely pricey, but we're really happy with it. It's really changed RVing for us. I'll readily admit that it's not the cleanest install out there. There's only so much you can do when your equipment has to share space with pipes and miles of factory wiring...we also didn't have to give up much of our cargo bay that way. We have the same generator! As long as you have an appropriate battery bank for all of that you'll probably be pretty happy with it. As far as money invested, there are some diminishing returns with a large solar setup. You'll have 80% of the ability of our system with WAY less money in it. Nothing wrong with that!

  • @cptpotato0776
    @cptpotato0776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information I’m camping threw the winter for a first time RVer during the summer my solar was doing whatever I wanted now winter is starting in Pennsylvania and poof I’m in a park down on a hillside and don’t get a lot of sun during the day and solar is struggling.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Winter is definitely a whole different animal when it comes to solar power. It helps a lot to be able to tilt your panels. In our case, it makes a big difference if we can get the back of the trailer facing south. Often times we just can't though.

  • @sanjuancapo2862
    @sanjuancapo2862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. I've been trying to figure out how much solar is needed for my 21.5 foot Coleman Lantern 17b?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much wattage do you use in a day? If you know how much power you use, you can calculate a solar/battery/inverter setup to fit your needs. We have a 5 part series on this if you're interested. Here's a link to our video on power consumption: th-cam.com/video/x1HgG_QXE9U/w-d-xo.html

    • @sanjuancapo2862
      @sanjuancapo2862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I literally have no idea..."campground" hookup camping only, I use lights, 12v fridge, microwave, fireplace, wall a/c, radio, and a few extras. I would like to boondock one day.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sanjuancapo2862 there's a few options. If you have minimal power needs while boondocking then you can get a portable solar setup. This is one of those power stations from Amazon with a few solar panels you setup on the ground. Or pickup a small generator if you don't mind the hum of the motor. Otherwise, watch our DIY series and do a deep dive on your own personal power consumption, then figure out a solar setup from there.

    • @sanjuancapo2862
      @sanjuancapo2862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NeverStopAdventuring Thank you. I do have a 250 watt portable bank. I am interested in a roof set up. I will check out your DYI.
      Thank you

    • @sanjuancapo2862
      @sanjuancapo2862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I'm just random guessing that I will need 500 watt + for a/c and fridge and fireplace

  • @ThatNomadicCouple
    @ThatNomadicCouple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, do you have a link for the solar panels you used?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! They are these ones: www.renogy.com/175-watt-12-volt-flexible-monocrystalline-solar-panel/

  • @sljack1671
    @sljack1671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I’ve never seen that many panels on one rig.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Yeah, it's kinda like having a whole new roof 😆

  • @bt4b4
    @bt4b4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG thanks for this video. I’m installing flex on the roof as well ! But can you make another video on how the tape and solar panels are doing ? Any lifting, or roof issues ? Thanks for everything, peacefrom510 .

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad it helps! Those flex panels are pretty great. There really isn't anything else to report. The tape and panels are holding up great. No lifting or roof issues whatsoever. The cable tie downs were the only thing. If there are any issues we'll let you know!

    • @bt4b4
      @bt4b4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring nice . I’m really curious about those panels as well .... thank you for your time! Peacefrom510 .

  • @dreamup8431
    @dreamup8431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the arid places you guys stay, an evaporative cooler may work just as well. I saw one installed on a van on TH-cam.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a really great low wattage solution. We've actually been in a lot of really humid places in the last 4 years too. So much so that we've needed a dehumidifier to keep condensation down!

  • @jackcombs8973
    @jackcombs8973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Install a mini-split and your a/c energy consumption will go waaayy down.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We'd love that. Might be a future project at some point but I really don't know where I'd mount the external unit. I'd probably have to find a different solution for our bike rack... In the mean time this works pretty well and you know what they say: if it ain't broken...

    • @Mo-fc2vj
      @Mo-fc2vj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's a mini-split ?

    • @kendallt2020
      @kendallt2020 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you learned much about the effectiveness and efficiency of a min split ? Really sounds like your black box roof top ac are using way too much. Maybe this video is a year behind but I would encourage you to watch mini split videos . And even a small generator easily runs them. Thanks for teaching what you have learned.

  • @randybobandy9828
    @randybobandy9828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to install a minisplit. You can get 12,000 btu units that use. MAX 960W and will kick down one it hits temp(inverter based compressor) you can buy one for about $800 and installing it yourself is pretty simple imo atleast(I have diy 7 minisplit systems so far) you would fully be able to run ac with your solar system and minisplit with zero compromise. They are also heat pumps so you will get that s a me 12000btu heat output for about the same wattage. You really can't go wrong! They are also over 2x as quiet 🤫 with no surge loads!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to. Maybe when our current AC's go out. But there'd also be some other logistics to work out, like where to mount the external units. Also, a single 12k btu unit wouldn't be enough for the size of our RV.

  • @proceedingonwardinamerica
    @proceedingonwardinamerica 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information. Can’t wait for when we get it and use it the same way.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! Some of my frustration with planning our system was finding info on how much actual wattage people were seeing in the real world. Hope it was useful!

  • @CFPVideoProductions
    @CFPVideoProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Performance wise, how would you rate the flexible vs the large framed solar panels?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No doubt rigid panels are better. They're usually more efficient and you get more wattage per $$ spent. They're also very heavy though and we didn't have the weight to spare on our RV. Are you thinking about putting solar panels on an RV?

    • @CFPVideoProductions
      @CFPVideoProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have had motorhomes since 1986. For 4 years now, I have had a large bank of Lithium batteries primarily for cooking. It is cooler in hot weather and far more convenient at any hour if you want to heat something in the microwave or make some coffee or tea. I very seldom use the generator. My wife prefers electric cooking in the motorhome. Most charging is done while traveling from the engine alternator. We usually dry camp in one location for two to three days. It would be nice to have additional power from solar to lengthen a stay should we change our three day habit. For dry camping, we have found our ceiling fan over the bed to eliminate the need for AC. @@NeverStopAdventuring

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CFPVideoProductions sounds like the perfect setup for some rigid panels and a solar controller. How much wattage did you have in mind?

    • @CFPVideoProductions
      @CFPVideoProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring This is only a rough estimate with no real documentation. We seem to be able to run 2 roof fans 24 hours a day, a bedroom ceiling fan at night, do regular amounts of electric cooking and running small appliances like recharging phones and cameras for 5 days. We have about 8,000 Watt Hours of usable batteries and figure about 1600 Watt hours/day. We usually only dry camp up to 3 days, so the figures could be off. Fresh water, grey and black tanks, taken into consideration, we would likely have to constrain our lifestyle to continue any further, which is possible. Given past experience, 400 watts would be nice. That may be too conservative in practical use.

  • @robertsrespinal4890
    @robertsrespinal4890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative and honest, thank you for the great quality of information in your videos, keep it up!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! We put a little bit more info in the related blog posts for our solar videos as well. Let us know if there's any other information you're interested in!

  • @KristenandSam
    @KristenandSam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info! Maybe one day we will bite the bullet and get an RV!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! It is definitely our preferred method of travel right now. If you really want to watch your channel explode more than it already is, buy a sprinter van and build it out. 😆 #vanlife

  • @kevinnashskitchen3517
    @kevinnashskitchen3517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm.. Heat seems to be the biggest enemy here. Time to go to the Canadian Rockies or Alaska for July and August. You need a semi tractor tow vehicle 😁

  • @RVAmerica
    @RVAmerica 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good information. We have not invested in solar yet. And are very interested in the pros and cons. Lynn and Danny

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'm happy to admit it's not for everyone. Mostly due to the cost. Not listening to a generator really does add to the experience of boondocking though!

  • @boun_viaggio_usa9989
    @boun_viaggio_usa9989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suppose for a young family inverters with solar to replenish the batteries makes sense. Though I have been using those dollars to convert my 120 volt A.C. to 12 volt D.C. We don't use the microwave and we just move to more comfortable climates, so no real need for A/C. Great video!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What temperatures are you happy with in the summer? We find that we can't really get enough airflow through our windows by the time it hits about 80 degrees outside. Couple that with the sun beating on the trailer and we're happy to run our AC. That same "problem" works out really well when it's cold. We find we get a lot of natural solar heating with this rig.

    • @boun_viaggio_usa9989
      @boun_viaggio_usa9989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never Stop Adventuring I like altitude in the summer. Now don't misunderstand me, I think total systems like you have are awesome technology. I just decided to go a different route.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Altitude is a great way to do it for sure!

  • @pullbackbaby
    @pullbackbaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw another video where somebody removed the factory air conditioning units from the roof and installed a particular kind of AC unit inside the RV It was working well for them I believe theirs was a 26-ft unit I'm not sure if they had one or two AC units However once you remove the rooftop ones you could probably put reinforced roof where the holes were and then put extra panels on the roof for even more power. Just a thought although it would take up some of your interior for these other AC units the extra power you get might just be worth it. Perhaps the new panels could be tiltable? Thank you for your video.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like a mini-split. Those are a much better option for sure. They're way more efficient and I'd love to have them. Once you remove the rooftop ACs it frees up even more space for solar panels too! Although it's definitely more money and another major project and while these RV air conditioners aren't the most efficient, they do work. For now anyway...

  • @Self.reliant
    @Self.reliant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to use UV resistant zip ties check a store for electricians they work awsome

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the zip ties on the roof are in fact UV resistant. I'm curious what made you think they weren't? In my experience UV resistant zip ties are usually black.

    • @Self.reliant
      @Self.reliant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NeverStopAdventuring all ul listed UV zip ties are black or white with a metal tab on them instead of the plastic tooth that locks them right. Not all black zip ties are UV rated. The ones I'm talking about are ul listed

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ahhhh, thank you for explaining that! Someone else had commented that my zip ties weren't UV rated so I wasn't sure why people thought that. That makes sense now. If any of these fail on me I will be sure to get back and get the UL listed ones!

  • @jandblawncare8570
    @jandblawncare8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All great info but one of the most important pieces is the battery bank as it's the heart of any system. Our system is 4-100amp Lithium ion's, 1320 watts of solar panels, a 3000watt inverter/charger, a 150/100 mppt controller and 2 Micro-Air soft starts for the a/c units and have only tried out the system in our driveway a couple times (end of camping season around here) and with 1 a/c running we can get roughly a few hours and thats it, with the electric fireplace going, it's about the same as the ac, you could see the battery monitor just sinking down from 100% charged batteries, 9 days, 6 days, 2 days, 10 hours, 6 hours, 3 hours 30 minutes etc. all in a matter of a few minutes of monitoring lol. Probably adding another battery or two here soon.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have 6 100amp Lithium batteries and went over the battery and inverter install in another video. This video is more about the system as a whole. You're right though, the battery bank generally gets kinda glossed over. You're setup is actually a bit more appropriately sized than ours. Our solar array is oversized on purpose to run that air conditioner while the sun is up. Ideally a much more efficient AC unit, like a mini split, would solve some some power consumption issues!

    • @jandblawncare8570
      @jandblawncare8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring Ive been seeing more and more of this but where too put it!!! I have room for about 4 more smaller 100 amp panels, these REC 330 watt panels take up a lot of room on the roof..

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, not sure where I'd put one either. I might consider one on a different RV in the future.

  • @stackerothings
    @stackerothings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are the flexible panels holding up? Any issues with them coming loose? Any loss of efficiency? Any issues with the lack of air flow under them? Thanks!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We lost the front panel last year when a low branch caught it while driving through a campground. Otherwise, no issues with them coming loose on their own. We haven't had any issues with heat either. There hasn't been any obvious loss of efficiency, but I intend to test the old panels vs the new one that I bought to replace the front one when I get around to putting it up there and filming it 🙂. That's taken a back seat to our travels, but I'm sure we'll want it back up there by the time it gets hot, so stay tuned!

  • @LuisRodriguez-qg8ci
    @LuisRodriguez-qg8ci ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello rv-er,
    I would like to know where you purchased your solar system and type of battery and how many? Thanks

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello! I put it together myself and purchased all the components from a long list of different places. We have 6 Battleborn batteries for a total of 600AH at 12V. You can get a lot more info on our setup here: th-cam.com/play/PLH9-NXsf-RaJ9mwXQ4gu60oDlG-jwbfF-.html

  • @allmomomosthomebus3895
    @allmomomosthomebus3895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done video. I'm about to install 3780 watts with 3 strings 2s2p and a 16s 48 volt LiFePo4 280ah battery pack and 6000w inverter on our bus build. Waiting for a few items yet. Your video helped validate that we'll be adequately powered running a/c. We both hate trying to sleep overheated. Subscribed. I'll check out your install videos.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! You definitely won't be disappointed with that large of a setup. That's huge! A large setup makes a big difference on those really cloudy days too.

    • @allmomomosthomebus3895
      @allmomomosthomebus3895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverStopAdventuring that's what I was thinking. The larger LiFePo4 cells have come down to the point where a large bank is financially feasible.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They really have come down in price. The Battleborn's are pricey but I do like the built in protection. There are way cheaper options out there, especially in the DIY realm. Ultimately it was the built in protection that sold me on them. Many others are doing the same though.

    • @lorettabirkholz2327
      @lorettabirkholz2327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverStopAdventuring can tell me how to acquire everything I need to install solar power in my RV?My husband and I are looking to put it in our 26ft 5th wheel rv.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Loretta, we have equipment lists with links in these two blog posts: neverstopadventuring.com/2020/09/rv-solar-install-solar-panels/ and neverstopadventuring.com/2020/09/rv-solar-install-batteries-inverters/

  • @howiehappy6505
    @howiehappy6505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos! I wonder if I could ask your opinion based on your experience with the 37MDQS? I also have a PInancle 37 MDQS (2018 model). It came with the overlander package, so it has a 1200w Xantrex inverterd and 4- 125w panels on the roof. We are full-time and hope to boondock as much as possible in the next year. I am scheduled in late August to have the following installed: 6- flex panels for 1440w, plus 2 victron charge controllers (one for the existing panels to thats a total of 1940w). 4- 206ah SOK LifePO batteries, and 1-Victron Multiplus II. My understanding is the new Multiplus II powers both legs of the 50amp system, making 2 inverters not necessary (not sure if that is true). I did not add any EasyStarts, but that is an option. My question is, based on your experience with the 37MDQS, am I likely to be satisfied with that system or am I likely to regret not going bigger? I can add more panels, more batteries and another inverter... but that would be close to 10K that I would rather not spend. Your thoughts are appreciated.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! How satisfied you'll be depends entirely on how much you want to run. That's definitely enough equipment to run just about anything, but with just the 1 inverter you'll probably only be able to run one big appliance at a time. What is it that you'd like to be able to do?

  • @tomintemann7844
    @tomintemann7844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you get all the equipment for your solar system setup????

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The panels came from Renogy, most of the Victron equipment came from Amazon along with a lot of the wiring, crimpers, connectors and such. I ordered the solar controllers through a supplier near Salt Lake City. The batteries were part of a group buy through Battleborn along with half a dozen other RV families at a rally.

  • @micheleh5963
    @micheleh5963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love hearing how your setup is going! Currently dreaming of maybe having a similar one someday! 😁

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! That would be awesome! Let us know if you have any questions when you get to it.

  • @jeffgerritsen972
    @jeffgerritsen972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How have the flexible solar panels held up?
    My concern is flexible solar panels inability to deal with heat and thus are prone to early failure. Yes they are much lighter than traditional solar panels, but longevity has been a real concern.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  ปีที่แล้ว

      Our particular setup has held up really well and continues to do so. I've heard of lots of failures with flexible panels, but not with these Renogy ones. I wouldn't hesitate to use these same panels again. They come with a pretty decent warranty.

  • @carljones2326
    @carljones2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed all you panels are flexible. How did you adhere them to the roof and did you have any "bleed thru" of heat under the panels into the coach?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used velcro in several places on each panel to keep them from shifting while I taped them down. It was Eternabond roof repair tape. We haven't experienced any heat bleed through but our roof is pretty heavily insulated. If you go with flexible panels I really recommend going with a brand that offers a long power output warranty. We're still really happy with these Renogy 175W ones!

    • @carljones2326
      @carljones2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I've been told by several people of this concern. I do have insulation in my ceiling but have always been warned away from flexible panels, without any explanation other than heat intrusion.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Carl Jones flexible panels haven't had the greatest track record, but they aren't all equal. We're still happy with ours. I'd highly recommend these Renogy ones. If you don't need a lightweight solution, rigid panels have more wattage for the money.

  • @richardmccallum2735
    @richardmccallum2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you guys doing welding with all that electricity? That’s crazy

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I probably could run a welder, but it's really for running AC units. Really though, since we live in it we're powering an entire household. While it's large compared to your average RV solar setup, this is nothing compared to the amount of power many RVs consume on a 50A campground connection.

  • @richardmccallum2735
    @richardmccallum2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U should put some portable wind turbines up there too you’re really skimping on the wattage lol

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Around when do you think you will do another update?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      July will mark 12 months since we completed the install so I'll film an update around then.

  • @AskRemy
    @AskRemy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you could have installed a dual mini split system and solved your power consumption issues not to mention have a perfectly quiet ac setup for the front and back.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, and I'd love to have that. Although the installation would present some other challenges and would be yet another major project to solve a problem we don't really have at this point. Our current AC units aren't loud at all. I'd consider it if they gave out on me. I'm still not sure where I would put the exterior unit - I like our bike rack at the moment. Have you installed one?

    • @AskRemy
      @AskRemy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I installed one on my bumper at the frame.
      They make ones where the outside piece goes where the current oem ac is, perfect drop in.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! I hadn't heard of those. I think I'd prefer one on the bumper as removing the top ACs would both reduce our overall height and make even more room for panels. I'd probably end up with some sort of reinforced hitch that would support both the mini split and a bike rack. Maybe in the future...

  • @damagekritical
    @damagekritical 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are the flex panels? Debating tossing some on van roof.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're still holding up well. We're still really happy with them. Rigid panels are cheaper if you can spare the extra weight.

  • @vincepeterson8144
    @vincepeterson8144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plastic zip ties will disintegrate in the sun. Try plastic-coated metal twist ties. I think they will last longer. You can get 500 twist ties for like $8.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The UV resistant zip ties I used for this have held up really well.

  • @richsusanjefferson3826
    @richsusanjefferson3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job! Wish I had found your channel sooner. My system is behind the panel in our 2018 Montana, including 5 24v (about 14kw) LiFePO4's and 2 24v 3000w Victrons back there.Very crowded. Your power consumption info is more valuable than you may realize. Are you having any thermal issues with any of the Victron equipment due to the heat they generate in a confined space? In the desert? I have a 100cfm bathroom fan I was going to mount on the ceiling and exhaust thru the belly to pull cool air in from the coach. It would be great if I don't need it. We don't use the washer/dryer as prepped so I added 20a plugs from those circuits in the pass thru bays.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! That sounds like a great setup! Do you have an electric leveling system on your Montana? Ours claims it can pull up to 90 amps which is why I stayed with a 12V battery bank. Otherwise I would have preferred to go higher voltage... I'm glad you find the power consumption useful! I had a hard time finding info like that when I first designed our system and it would have made the process easier. We haven't had any thermal issues and I haven't put any extra fans in the bay. With the walls removed underneath there's quite a lot of air space, even with the Victron equipment stuffed in there behind the wires and pipes. The highest temps I've seen in that bay were around 88 degrees when we'd used a lot of air conditioning. Although we do have a grate under one of our stairs that allows for some air flow between our living space and the cargo bay. I've noticed on some of the hot days when we're done running AC for the day that all that extra heat down below warms up the upstairs a little. When we're in hot temps again I'll probably open up both bay doors to allow a cross-breeze. I don't know if you'll need the fan or not for your setup, but you could always try it without and just measure the temps. More ventilation never hurts though!

    • @richsusanjefferson3826
      @richsusanjefferson3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring Yes we have electric leveling and I have had it thermal protect a couple of times. You have to "re home" the magnets when this happens. I suggest you read this section in your manual and use some velcro hook to put a copy next to the control box it will happen. I have 2 100a renogy LiFepo4 12v for the house 24v only runs the inverters. I only have 1 150/100 controller for 2400w solar.6 series 4 parallel higher voltage lower current so I could use smaller wire. Your series panels add voltage but current is single panel current then when you connect the series strings is parallel the voltage of the 3 panel string stays the same and the current adds is parallel. Ran it without panels just recharged in campgrounds worked great. No matter the input shore power the inverters adapt flawlessly. Will be trying out the solar this summer in Moab. This will be all be complete by the time I retire. The roof penetration was tough I had to dodge 110v wires they chased thru the ceiling.
      You are blessed with an awesome family. Keep posting! The content and production are top notch. The traffic will come especially to the rv solar.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only problem we've had with the leveling system thus far is a burned out 30A fuse for one of the rear jacks. That was an easy replacement. Your higher battery voltage allows for fewer solar controllers. Since I'm using just a 12V battery bank, each of those controllers is only good for ~1400W. Having the 3rd controller allows for some expansion...more on that later this year 😀. You're right, these inverters are really great with how they adapt with shore power. Running on 30A is almost as good as 50A. Makes it not worth the extra money some campgrounds want for the full 50A connection. Thanks! We really appreciate it! Actually, we have a new video coming out tomorrow morning!

    • @richsusanjefferson3826
      @richsusanjefferson3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I think I am your #300 sub, looking forward to the next video

  • @AmericanSurvival001
    @AmericanSurvival001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I like the idea of how you did your solar panels the only downside is you can’t raise them up or tilt them to meet the sun which in many of those locations tilting one bank of solar panels towards the sun would’ve increased your power output by 20 or 30% easily but it doesn’t sound like you’ve ever really needed that what you really needed is one more battery especially because your batteries are all being topped off quite early in the day with the amount of solar that you have another battery Would give you huge benefits of sharing across the lot of them but I don’t think you’re ever going to exceed your battery power I’m surprised you haven’t just let it run to see what you ended up with without turning off the AC after all if you’re in a shadow by 2 o’clock in the afternoon your AC is going to run less anyway, being in a shadow so it’s a wash going to look through your videos to see if you’ve ever really stressed your system because if you’re at 50% on the heavy use it would be very difficult to use so much more energy that you would deplete your source? As you would have to use double the amount of energy to completely run your battery down which I can’t see happening, anyway great video

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My biggest limiting factor with the whole project was weight. Tilting mounts would have weighed more and would work better with rigid panels anyway. Same thing with more batteries. If you go by a solar calculator then yes, we have an undersized battery bank. Again, that was for weight savings. Our 6 batteries really give us all the power we need. The only time we come close to running out of power is when we run the AC's into the evening. Thanks!

  • @HeyDued
    @HeyDued ปีที่แล้ว

    my experience. the flexible panels are great first season. good the second. all but dead the third. the sun destroys them quick. I live in the north east so do not have such a strong hot sun as the south . cover during winter. yet still they are faded significantly and produce half of their original power. I'm using 3 different brands purchased from 3 different places. go with glass or use the flexible's only when camping. also the flexible panels on my roof raised the inside temp dramatically.. i wasted 1200 dollars on flexible and have since gone to glass.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  ปีที่แล้ว

      What brands did you use and did they have a power output warranty? We're in our 3rd season now with these Renogy panels and they're a bit less powerful than they once were but still quite good. They haven't raised our indoor temps at all. I'm not sure if that's because our particular 5th wheel is heavy on the insulation or if it's more to do with laying them down with velcro underneath that keeps them from completely resting against the rubber roof. Glass panels just weren't an option for us - too heavy.

    • @HeyDued
      @HeyDued ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@NeverStopAdventuring One brand I remember was Dokio . I think other was Alrska. Definitely Chinese knock offs but when I saw that even the best ones were lasting only 5 years I figured it didn't pay to go Renogy or something like it. As far as warranty I didn't bother. With a 13 year old roof that doesn't leak I wasn't gonna touch it. That camper, a 25 foot travel trailer, is now permanently installed on vacant land hooked to power. The panels will remain on it hooked to a 30 amp controller which at this point is all I get out of 1200 watts worth of flexi's. It will work in case of emergency. My new glass system went on a 36 foot 5th wheel. Yes my panels add up to 0ver 400lbs. Batteries another 200. Inverter and controllers another 150. But I was lucky. This trailer happened to have a very high cargo capacity based on it floor plan. Either way I have air conditioning without running a Genny. That was the systems main purpose.

  • @indycharlie
    @indycharlie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice !

  • @mflaig14
    @mflaig14 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How large is your battery Bank? Thank you for the video

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have 6 lithium batteries (Battleborn). So, 7200 watt hours, or 600AH @ 12V.

    • @mflaig14
      @mflaig14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the response. We're going full-time in a couple years and I'm in the process of equipping my camper similar to the size of your camper. Do you have any reserve left in your batteries each day with the six of them can you go a couple days or two days maybe without solar or do you need a bigger battery bank for that I too am going to be using a residential fridge.

    • @mflaig14
      @mflaig14 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I have time later next week I'm going to be going through your videos I'm really interested in how much those gadgets to raise your solar panels up and down cost

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice, that's exciting! That's a tricky question because everyone uses different amounts of power and every camper is also different with power draw. We installed our batteries and dual inverters 5 months before we pulled the trigger on the rest of the solar install. We didn't do a whole lot of boondocking in that time, but when we did, I was definitely running our little 2000W generator for a few hours everyday to keep up with our power usage. For starters, I think the best money is spent on a smaller lithium battery bank to replace the lead acid deep cycle ones that every RV comes with. You'll also want a battery monitor to go with that and a reliable, quiet generator. Keep in mind too that this advice is coming from someone who fully recognizes that he is a bit of a power hog.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We skipped the fancy mounting systems in favor of weight savings. Being able to tilt your panels would definitely help though!

  • @mike_adams
    @mike_adams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What width tape did you use? 3”?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mostly, yes. There were a few places where I used 1" tape too.

    • @mike_adams
      @mike_adams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring .. I’m putting up 4 of the 175watt panels with plans for 6. Just trying to figure out if I need (and how to apply) some air gap under the panel for heat dissipation

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For what it's worth, I didn't use any. Not to say that there wouldn't be a benefit, but Renogy told me it wasn't needed and I haven't had any heat issues.

  • @tomumberger1356
    @tomumberger1356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what was your cost to install this system? Everything,

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the solar panels, controllers, and associated wiring it was about $7400. There's a more detailed description on our blog: neverstopadventuring.com/2020/09/rv-solar-install-solar-panels/
      For the batteries, inverters, monitor, etc. it was about $9400, also detailed in a separate blog post: neverstopadventuring.com/2020/09/rv-solar-install-batteries-inverters/
      It was a lot, but I'm sure I saved a lot in labor costs too buy going the DIY route. We're still happy with the setup. It's completely changed RVing for us!

  • @KentSexton-e1e
    @KentSexton-e1e ปีที่แล้ว

    What was cost to solarize rv?

  • @pixieboimagic2285
    @pixieboimagic2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you think about installing the solar panels on some type of light weight rail system in order to provide the ability to tilt towards the sun? I am looking at installing a large solar system myself and trying to find out if the extra fabrication work would be worth the time investment.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The short answer is no. We really don't have the weight to spare which is why we went with these lightweight, flexible panels to begin with. If we had a motorhome or toy hauler that had more cargo capacity, we would have gone with cheaper rigid panels and more fancy mounting hardware.

    • @pixieboimagic2285
      @pixieboimagic2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I am planning on upgrading to the Riverstone 42FSKG which has triple axles and a CCC of 3274 lb. With me living alone I definitely have the weight to spare lol.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem! Yeah, you would definitely have the carrying capacity with that! There's no doubt that tilting increases solar output. I also know myself enough to say that I wouldn't want to climb up there and tilt 15 panels every time I move. There are motorized setups that'll do it at the flip of a switch though.

    • @pixieboimagic2285
      @pixieboimagic2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I agree with about not wanting to go up on the roof to tilt lol. I have watched a lot of youtube install videos and seen one that has a remote tilt system. Still building out my dream solar system and seeing what the overall cost will be... after the fed tax credit that is ;)

    • @pullbackbaby
      @pullbackbaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rail system might actually provide a small amount of shade to the roof as well I'm not sure how hot these flexible panels get. The outcome of their design is really sleek and nice looking

  • @ChristineJGold
    @ChristineJGold 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you recommend for a new RV owner. 34 ft, 50 amps? Energy audit 3500 watts....prefer boondocking

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First, a few questions: Is that 3500 watt hours over 24hrs? Do you want to run both sides of your 50A breaker box (two inverters) or are you good with just a few outlets/appliances? How much extra weight capacity does your rig have?

    • @ChristineJGold
      @ChristineJGold 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I have a 34ft motorhome. Not sure where to find extra weight capacity? As for the 24hrs, that was a high end estimate as I want to be off grid as much as possible. Does that help? I feel I need someone to guide me through this, for the best setup 🙏

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChristineJGold how much do you think you need based on your research? Based on the info you gave me and checking an online solar calculator I'd say 3-4 lithium batteries + battery monitor, 500-800 watts of solar panels. You could get away with less if you use fewer watts overnight. I'd recommend a good MPPT solar controller and maybe a 1000W inverter. Inverter size is mostly dependent on the largest appliance you'd like to run. All of that can be heavy which is why I asked about weight capacity. Google your model of RV and look for GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Ratio.) That's the maximum amount of weight your RV is rated to carry. Next, weigh it at a truck stop (cat scales) to see how much weight you have to spare. That'd be your GVWR minus the actual weight from the truck stop scale. If you have plenty of capacity, go with rigid panels - they're cheaper and last longer. If you need a lightweight setup, go with flexible panels.

    • @ChristineJGold
      @ChristineJGold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeverStopAdventuring thank you for the tips! I will look it up and see what is best. I appreciate the help

  • @davidbrandi3947
    @davidbrandi3947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you use 3m tape to mount the solar to the roof?

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used 3 large strips of heavy duty Velcro under each panel. After that,, the white tape around the edges is Eternabond roof seal tape.

    • @thepoetryofjp
      @thepoetryofjp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NeverStopAdventuring How long is the life span of these panels as eternabond is hard to remove.

  • @travelingcoda
    @travelingcoda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We aren't really sure how much solar to get. I would like to run an ac unit if it gets too hot, but I think our plan is to follow the good weather and not need ac.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A good place to start is just trying to figure out how much power you "need" in a day. It can help to get a watt meter and measure how much your various appliances use. I highly recommend upgrading your batteries first and getting a nice battery monitor with it.

  • @thepoetryofjp
    @thepoetryofjp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aluminum cable ties.

  • @ariadventuresi
    @ariadventuresi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @copelandrobinson
    @copelandrobinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know if you installed a micro air easy start on each ac you would cut down your wattage by 65/70% then you would be able to run both ac’s in the summer with no problem!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually installed EasyStarts way before this solar setup and did a review about it: th-cam.com/video/8qHv1w6E6Jc/w-d-xo.html They only reduce the startup surge which is important for not overloading inverters. Unfortunately there's no way to reduce the total wattage needed to run an AC unit. They need what they need. The other option is to install a more efficient cooling system like a mini-split. Maybe that'll be a project for the future!

  • @richardmccallum2735
    @richardmccallum2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is insane

  • @MikeAlexander-t5k
    @MikeAlexander-t5k ปีที่แล้ว

    the biggest issue is your choice of going with flexible panels over rigid. They don't produce their full rating and tend to degrade much faster then their rigid counterparts.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd happily go with these Renogy flex panels again. They've held up well over the last 3 years. Many flexible panels are junk, these aren't. Rigid panels were just too heavy for this application.

  • @robertbolton9450
    @robertbolton9450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    need a Dakota 100ah 12volt or 200 ah from advance auto store for about 1600 dollars. lithium

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard those are great. We have 6 Battleborn batteries in our battery bank.

  • @claytonyoung1351
    @claytonyoung1351 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make sure to use 540 watt panels and be efficient and spend less money at the same time. Dont worry about every inch of rooftop and worry more about getting the most input from the panels you're choosing.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  ปีที่แล้ว

      This was about getting a lot of wattage while not adding much weight. Many RVs run close to their maximum weight with just normal packing. These panels were only 6lbs each. A 540W panel weighs 70lbs before you add the mounting hardware for it.

    • @claytonyoung1351
      @claytonyoung1351 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverStopAdventuring I'd go for more watts and make the math work. Good luck to you! 👍

  • @VELOPERS
    @VELOPERS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WELL GOODIE GOODIE FOR YOU, I`N HAPPY WITH MY 200 WATTS

  • @TexasFlyer2
    @TexasFlyer2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched your 3 videos on your solar . Really enjoyed them, especially the information on how much energy you capture and use under different conditions. I just installed 8kW (6x105Ah) LiFePO4, one Multiplus w/ a manual phase switch, and 840W solar - with plans to add panels over time. To help me compare your usage with what I should expect, what fridge type to you have - residential or absorption? With it running 24x7, that can make a big difference. Thanks in advance.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Nice setup! We have a 21cu. ft. residential fridge. When it's running it pulls 100W. There's a defrost cycle that pulls quite a bit more then that but it runs so rarely I've yet to see exactly how much it draws.

  • @GeomancerHT
    @GeomancerHT ปีที่แล้ว

    Without a system to properly angle the panels depending on the latitude and time of year is a must, without that is a huge waste of money.

  • @camtwo1466
    @camtwo1466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see all you guys give the proper way to organize the battery bank but the truth is you guys need to put solar panel diodes or battery isolators between each battery because even 1 weak cell and the balance of the system gets thrown off,,,Its expensive but the only way to properly recharge and not overcook r/v batteries or inverters as when you turn an inverter off its supposed to stop reverse voltage flow but after the vehicle is jumpstarted wrong the diode fails and should be used as a redundancy not a defense.........
    First thing to know is ABOUT FLYBACK!!!..Its more deadly than you realize for electronics and solis state devices....Recall city here we come......!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Flyback has an effect on switch panels too look up switchpanel diodes they sell at Jegs.
    You must totally protect the whole RV from Flyback...Look it up..You heard it first from The Godfather to Understanding Flyback & The Way It Afflicts Vehicles..Take care

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Each one of my batteries has a built in battery management system (BMS) to protect and manage the charge/discharge cycles of the cells together. Actually, most of the brands that make Lithium RV batteries do. As for the inverters, I just follow Victron's recommendations for hooking them up. Some situations don't apply since this is a 5th wheel and for a motorhome I definitely recommend an isolator between the engine battery and the RV 12V system.

  • @marvs4321
    @marvs4321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all, thats a large setup. I have a few comments and observations. First of all I wonder were most of your power consumption comes from. You mentioned turning things off so that the batteries could recharge after a few consecutive cloudy days, so I wonder what you’re leaving turned on that puts a load on your battery bank and inverter. Next, most RVs are not well insulated and I’ll bet you’re using a lot of power because of heat penetration thru windows and doors. I am also skeptical that a 21 cu. in residential fridge only draws 100W of power. Did you measure that yourself or was that what the manual or sticker said? You installation is a bit concerning because of the proximity of all that electrical equipment to water sources. If there is a leak in one of those water hoses you’re in for trouble. I assume that you have fuses and or circuit breakers in all the electrical wiring runs.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We actually haven't experienced multiple cloudy days in a row yet. Are you referring to that situation I mentioned at Valley of Fire? In that situation I flipped the breakers because it was easier than running around unplugging everything and I knew the panels would be shaded by 2pm. We certainly have some parasitic draw but not enough to worry about. You're absolutely right about RV insulation. Jayco rates ours from 0 to 100 degrees so it's better than some, but it's still an RV. We still stay comfortable within those temperature ranges especially now with a big solar setup to run our AC units. Believe it or not, that's what the fridge pulls when it's running. That's been verified on both my Victron panel and the old Xantrex inverter that used to run it before the upgrade. The only info on the fridge sticker is "Max Draw of 7.2 Amps" which is consistent with compressor startup. That only happens for a fraction of a second and then it runs at 100-110 watts. It also has a defrost cycle but it runs so infrequently I haven't caught it in action. Ideally, yes, the water pipes wouldn't be quite so close. But that's also not the only place where water pipes run very close to electrical wires, circuit boards, etc. And those were done that way by the factory... Water leaks are always bad news, but I don't lose any sleep over it. Instead I frequently check that everything is in order. ABSOLUTELY, there are fuses and/or breakers for everything.

  • @Ivantang69
    @Ivantang69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take my money I need 4K watt system

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm definitely not an installer, but you'd need some serious roof space for that many panels! 😀

  • @user-io3so1hd2c
    @user-io3so1hd2c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems harder than just running a generator all the time

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's definitely more expensive than a generator. But harder? After the install the system is on all the time, takes little to no maintenance, and is quiet.

  • @robertbolton9450
    @robertbolton9450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    should last 25 to 30 years at a 84 percent efficiency

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully! I intend to test a new one against one of these older ones to see how they're holding up. Those original panels are two years old now, but still going strong.

  • @thereefaholic
    @thereefaholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those roof top units are horrible and chew up valuable Solar panel space

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inefficient sure, but otherwise they work just fine. A minisplit would definitely be better.

  • @MitraPrimaDaya
    @MitraPrimaDaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flex solar panel less efficiency and durability, with same size, non flex solar panel (mono crystalin) more watt (wp).

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's actually not the case with these ones. Go check out Renogy's website and you can compare the two. Another huge bonus to these is that they weigh so much less than the rigid panels.

    • @MitraPrimaDaya
      @MitraPrimaDaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeverStopAdventuring
      If you plan to be generating and using solar power everyday, generally, rigid solar panels are going to be better than flexible solar panels. Although initial costs may be higher, the longevity and efficiency of a rigid solar panel system make traditional solar panels the smarter option.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your thoughts. For our application and needs we felt these were the best choice and we are very happy with our setup. Thanks for watching!

  • @payme0
    @payme0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flexible solar panels are trash and degrade and start failing very fast!

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you ever tried flexible panels that have a real warranty? They're not all built the same!

  • @schlz69
    @schlz69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this, a couple of things, the zip ties will last longer if you buy UV resistant ties, there are different ones and they are labeled, also UV resistant wire Loom protect your cables. My biggest concern with flexible panes is hot spots, and scorching the roof. it doesnt look like this has been an issue for you, does that concern you at all? I have seen pictures of burnt panels and melted roof membrane from these. Im deciding on panels for my rig now, this will be my second build, and used rigid panels last time. would appreciate your input.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The zip ties actually are UV rated they just aren't UL listed. The zip ties have actually held up really well, it was the adhesive tie downs that failed in a couple of places. I had some concerns about hot spots going into this project, but I don't worry about it anymore now that it's over a year old. These panels just don't get that hot. Even in 100+ degree temps. Renogy assured me before I started this install that these panels don't require an air gap and they don't get hotspots. My opinion on it now is that manufacturing standards simply vary from company to company. I'm still very happy with these. If you are 100% positive that adding 100's of pounds of weight to your roof won't be an issue, I wouldn't hesitate to go with rigid panels. When I get around to replacing the front panel that I lost, it'll be interesting to compare the new panel's output with one of the originals.

    • @schlz69
      @schlz69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NeverStopAdventuring Thanks for the reply, I had 10, 100 watt Grape Solar rigid panels on my last rig, the really didnt weigh much, I think im going with 5 Newpowa 240 watt rigid panels on this build, but still kicking around flexables, mainly for aerodynamics, I would be interested in your comparison of output, I understand the flexable ones are not quite as efficient, but this is just from reading, not personal experience.

    • @NeverStopAdventuring
      @NeverStopAdventuring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think flexible panels have gotten a pretty bad reputation over the years - for a reason. There are several manufacturers that offer a power output warranty on their flexible panels now. Renogy's warranty is the same as many of their rigid panels. But yeah, I think the real world comparison will be key. They've definitely lived up to their promise about hot spots. Just don't buy flexible panels that don't offer a power output warranty.

    • @kilrain_dev
      @kilrain_dev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flexible panels are also far less efficient and you can't upgrade to tilted stands either.

  • @Glockboii305
    @Glockboii305 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeffery Dahmer vibes .

  • @Dr.Fingertips
    @Dr.Fingertips ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. 😊