Let's see why the Apple II Europlus broke again!

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  • The Apple II Euro+ is broken again! Let's fix it and mod it!
    Thanks PCBWay for sponsoring this video: pcbway.com/g/M525r4
    Previous repair video: • This Apple II Europlus...
    The ROM-X project: theromexchange.com/
    Applefritter forum: www.applefritter.com/forum/84
    Disk ][ drive alignment: www.apple2faq.com/apple2faq/r...
    00:00 Intro
    01:43 The new fault
    03:44 Troubleshooting
    10:05 The faulty component!
    13:02 ROM modification
    16:54 Floppy alignment
    22:04 Demo
    22:46 Outro
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  • @minombredepila1580
    @minombredepila1580 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It is an excellent explanation of how a bus multiplexor works. Nothing like seeing a specialist making complex things easy to understand !!!

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thank you! Sometimes I can make things easy too! :) Thanks for watching!

  • @als1035
    @als1035 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You show a very good understanding of how the Apple }{ works. Very nice diagnosis. The best part for me was discovering that the TL866 programmer was capable of testing TTL and CMOS logic ICs. Thank you for showing that.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a very capable programmer, I discovered that a long time after I bought it! You're welcome and thanks!

  • @bitsundbolts
    @bitsundbolts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very nice repair! The floppy drive adjustment looked like a fluke :) But great that it worked!

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @thealphageek1975
    @thealphageek1975 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job Tony! Very entertaining. Glad to see the capture device working better.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! It's a new one which seems to like(ish!) those odd video signals! A video about it is coming at some point! Thanks for watching!

  • @Hellhound604
    @Hellhound604 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see somebody on youtube actually use an oscilloscope to find faults. 👍👍👍👍

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      otherwise where's the fun :) Thanks for watching!

  • @YuenanCao
    @YuenanCao 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn’t expect to see a spray bottle of “No More Spiders” on someone’s work bench LOL

    • @tony359
      @tony359  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Assuming that spiders qualify as "bugs", that's perfect to get rid of hardware bugs :)
      (mine's a terrible joke!)

  • @sokoloft3
    @sokoloft3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great fix. Interesting how clocking the floppy motor fixed the drive.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed! And so cool that it can be done without special tools! Thanks for watching!

  • @aleksandardjurovic9203
    @aleksandardjurovic9203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very entertaining video. Thank you! ❤

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching!

  • @Thorsten369
    @Thorsten369 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never be an Apple fan but i like when you repair those old computers. Still hope you get your hands on a Commodore ViC 20 for a repair. Great video my friend. Keep up the good work.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be awsome! I'm sure I'll soon have another Commodore!

  • @general23cmp
    @general23cmp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching!

  • @khachaturian100
    @khachaturian100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Tony

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @THEtechknight
    @THEtechknight 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome! I honestly didn't know about the disk drive testing and alignment procedures. Might be worth a thought to do a video dedicated to just that alone, since I am not sure what software or disks id need to do something like that for the AII.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I wanted to and then always managed to piggyback the section to an existing video. I’ll think about it!

  • @snakezdewiggle6084
    @snakezdewiggle6084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Tony. Nice job 👍
    I once heard a man say, "In the world there only 10 types of people. Those who understand Binary, and those that don't". 😉

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      very nerdy joke suitable for this channel indeed! :D

  • @andream1977
    @andream1977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always fascinating ;-)

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @CATech1138
    @CATech1138 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am very interested in the rom replacement....i have an Apple II+...it has smoked one of the roms...inhave another set of roms that imwould prefer not to place at risk.....so upgrading to less propreitary hardware sounds like a very good idea to me.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "smoked" as in it got physically burnt?

  • @harvaldi
    @harvaldi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Tony. Do You plan videos about repairing other types of computers? Maybe Atari?

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course, anything that lands on my workbench! :)

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes me wonder whether there are any more borderline faulty logic ICs from the same batch on there. Probably not?

    • @tony359
      @tony359  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very possible. Though the Apple II has been working fine for a few weeks now.

  • @Ironclad17
    @Ironclad17 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:10 Great indie rock band name.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've listened a few times but I'm not sure I understand! :D

  • @SobieRobie
    @SobieRobie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would leave the controller in the slot 7. Just in case 😂

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ahahahah - I'd do that but some SW just doesn't work there! Weird thing that some (most) of it searches for the floppy in slot 6 in the code!

    • @SobieRobie
      @SobieRobie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony359 Really? Apples never were my thing.

  • @thomasjosephlamarque2927
    @thomasjosephlamarque2927 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    interested to know why you havent decided to go down the patreon or join route? sorry if its a personal question.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for asking. I just feel it’s a bit too early. At some point… 🙂

    • @thomasjosephlamarque2927
      @thomasjosephlamarque2927 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony359 let me know when you do. :)

  • @HwAoRrDk
    @HwAoRrDk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Given that the green lacquer on the screws seems to have been undisturbed, perhaps that drive was never perfectly aligned straight from the factory. 🙃

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      interesting! Who knows, that Apple was from a pile of Apples :)
      Yes, I could have used another floppy but... :D

  • @bobweiram6321
    @bobweiram6321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You saved it from becoming EuroTrash.😂

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No computers go to landfill on this channel! :)

  • @watchmakerful
    @watchmakerful 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Won't this hot swap of ROMS screw up the whole system?

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's a good question, I didn't investigate too much. However, there is ONE bit (maybe byte) difference between the two ROMs and it's the RESET routine. Now, it might be that if I swap the ROM while the system is doing some intense work, it might not like it. I do not know to be fair.

    • @tiemanowo
      @tiemanowo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "swapping" roms is done only by setting one input to LOW or HIGH. Data-lines are always connected to the BUS so I don't see what can go wrong except maybe occasionally system freeze / halt. This is not like unplugging and plugging back USB drive.

    • @watchmakerful
      @watchmakerful 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tiemanowo What can happen if the ROM is swapped while reading?

    • @tiemanowo
      @tiemanowo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@watchmakerful Maybe system crash and nothing more.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh yes thanks for clarifying. This is nothing to do with physically unplug the ROMs, it's just one address line going low/high so when the system asks for a location, a different one actually responds. So worst that can happen is a crash :)

  • @Epictronics1
    @Epictronics1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cursed Apple! Nice to see it running again. ...for a few days? lol

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So far so good! :) 🤞

    • @Epictronics1
      @Epictronics1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony359 If it brakes again, we'll get another entertaining video :)

  • @cosmefulanito5933
    @cosmefulanito5933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As we have told you many times, in devices this old you have to change all the electrolytic capacitors before you even start testing. It's not even worth testing them. Those who did not fail will fail in the short term.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But in this case it didn't fail because of the capacitors! And there are so few caps in an Apple II anyways.
      Anyways, I know it's a good idea, I just don't have the time and resources to do that every single time!

    • @snakezdewiggle6084
      @snakezdewiggle6084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cosmefulanito5933
      Why, what happens to the capacitors ?

    • @RudysRetroIntel
      @RudysRetroIntel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't recommend replacing all capacitors less they are failing. This technique isn't best practice. After repairing literally 100s of Apple II, IIe, and IIc, I have never found a computer that needs all capacitors replaced.

    • @tony359
      @tony359  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it's indeed a debated subject. My view is: new ones won't hurt but they're not strictly necessary and won't necessarily fail very soon. Definitely I don't like swapping caps for the sake of doing it.

    • @cosmefulanito5933
      @cosmefulanito5933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tony359 Actually yes. They are strictly necessary because as I explained before, those who did not fail will fail in the short term. Capacitors have a lifespan. And all those capacitors already exceeded it.
      A good technician always repairs the problem and prevents future problems. Otherwise you will always be repairing the same things over and over again.

  • @K10driver
    @K10driver 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First!