Luke's presence doesn't really make a difference in terms of redeeming the sequels, cuz TLJ Luke still exists. Now, everytime I see Luke pick up baby yoda, looking at him with cold, computerized eyes I think "baby gonna have a bad time" lol
They’ll probably have some bullshit novel or game about grogu being on a mission when it all goes down so he’s still alive. Cause you can’t kill your money cow like that. Just fucking ugh at all of this crap Disney has made.
‘Where do they go after this?’ Anakin Skywalker rises from the grave. He looks at Rey and says ‘Rey Palpatine Skywalker, you are stunning, brave, and subversive. Thank you for standing up to the evil, toxic trolls. You truly are a Star Wars: The Last Jedi’
@@nmr7203 Even in the Ot, he had a badass armor, he was the one who spotted luke in the bespin palace. In the clone wars little boba was shown to be a capable mind in terms of tactics... So yes i would have been fine with a cool crime lord story.
Yeah but he loves classic westerns and that era of cinema, which is how Mandalorian was pitched and kinda started as (that's why I still like S1). Now, it's probably just a money job for him. Altough at least his character is pretty interesting so I hope he had fun filming this.
You know this is exactly what I expected when Disney bought Star Wars, 80% fan service and nostalgia with a writing quality somewhere between Michael Bay movies and Saturday morning cartoons. It's just incredibly sad that it took 8 years to get up to this quality.
Random thought: Isn't it strange that Mando has no idea what a Jedi is, despite them being Generals in the Clone Wars, and handing the Mandalorian's their greatest historical defeat? Yet, for some reason, he decided to randomly learn Tusken Raider history, customs, and language.
I thought the show was being smart about him not knowing much about tuskans because when he first meet them he uses a sign language that could possibly be universal used but later on he explicitly speaks their language and knows there customs so nevemind.
If the headquarter was in Tatooine (I don't remember season 1) then it makes sense learning Tusken because in tatooine you will run into them and it's better being able to speak to them to strike a deal instead of fighting them every time .. But that depends if he spend a lot of time in Tatooine or not
In lore Mandalorians and Tuskens have *some* history, though that’s still a bit of a stretch (which could again be excused since he doesn’t really come off as ‘bilingual’ or fluent in Tusken stuff from what I recall). Also in the new canon, creamy Sheev did his best to erase every trace of the Jedi (though you’d reckon someone raised by Mandalorian extremists would know about the lads that put their nutsack on his whole group’s forehead but eh)
They don't care at all to explore mandalorian culture.Mando is apparently part of a super religious sect,but bone of that is explored.I guess the writers expect you to have seen all the show and read all the books.Now call me crazy,but I think a show about a mandalorian would be a great opportunity to explore/explain some of this stuff at leas a bit.
That could be because he’s part of the extremist zealots and the armorer wanted them to have only enough information to operate but not enough to make her obsolete, having a cult like mentality with all of them. The conflict would be mando pondering between is she just a pragmatic leader that was just using the mandos under her by keeping them all intentionally uninformed for greater control or some sort of mother figure to him but is it because she deserves the title or just because of the Stockholm syndrome he has. Too bad they didn’t explore it
@@TheMaleRei You do know that he Dark Troops have multiple versions in the EU? These look like Mk. 1s, I can't remember but either Mark 2s or 3s can take on Jedi.
Jake Deepfaker: Hey friends I'm Luke Skywalker, *smiles* Disnoids: OMG I'm crying this is the best moment of my life I remember when writing took effort, I feel old now.
"I assume your friends killed everyone on the bridge, being the murderous psychopaths that they are" That's funny coming from the guy who killed a dozen of his own troopers last season for interrupting him.
The lack of self awareness is staggering. And as a rule, one of the worst failures of writing a character is when you write someone to be intimidating and menacing, but it makes the audience laugh. Its like Chris Stuckmann's mick BvS scene that he wrote. I fully believe that when you are in a certain zone, you might find something sounds cool. But when you read it again, and get the context of what you wrote before said scene, it breaks and sounds not so good and sometimes just cringe. I agree with MauLer when he says people need to redraft.
The Book of Binks In the style of the three stooges, Jar Jar goes around trying to do helpful things but being the clumsy idiot he is, he makes a mess of things.
The emotion that a scene of Luke Skywalker at the height of his powers going up against a squad of combat droids evokes should not be _boredom_ . Yes, we want Luke to be nearly untouchable at that point in time, but it should be _despite_ the resistance he faces and the skill and efforts of his adversaries, not because the most threatening thing one of the killer droids does is put a hand on his shoulder like it's trying to stop him to ask if he's got a light.
You nailed it. Luke Skywalker is awesome. But he's still a stupid ex-machina. Which is how 90% of conflict in this series resolves itself. All they have to add is one scene before this, in a previous episode, to set up the cameo. Boba Fett got two stingers before he entered. How about have Asoka Tano mention Baby Yoda and Mando to another contact person after they've left, at the end of that episode, to imply that word reaches Luke. Or have an X-Wing show up at the Jedi Temple after everyone has gone away, at the end of the previous episode, implying that Baby Yoda called through the force. You don't even have to show Luke Skywalker himself. Its suspenseful enough, given no one expected him to make an appearance this series anyway. Just set it up. So that it at least has at least a little more impact than it did. Fan service can be done well if you take the time.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 Technically the set up was Baby Yoda making the call, really anybody could have showed up, maybe even Mace Windu, cause fuck it why not, it all culminated into a ex-machina saving the day anyway.
Yeah, but that's the thing. We're left to assume Baby Yoda reached out to someone through the force. We don't see anyone respond. Not even in a stinger. I'm not saying "show me Luke Skywalker straightaway". But, if they'd just left a stinger showing "someone unknown" was on their tail after Baby Yoda was on the stone and got taken, it would've made for a reveal with greater impact. We know there's "someone", we "assume it could be anyone" and then "holy shit, Luke Skywalker!" Just set it up. Instead we get, "What? Of course, they can't beat all the death Troopers. Oh look, someone else is here to save their ass. Oh look, Luke Skywalker." And then he just leaves. Not a single question asked. Jedi and Mandalorians have a history. They are all on an Empire ship. There's at least a few lines of dialogue missing about why Mando has Baby Yoda and why does he save him and help the Jedi... Just something... Nope, gotta go, thanks for my baby, bye, bye. Its nice to see Luke. Really, it is. But it feels hollow.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 Your assumption is that Baby Yoda reached out to somebody specific. But my understanding was, when you reach out into the force, it's like a whale calling out in the ocean, everyone who can pick up on it, feels him reaching out. Everything after Lukes reveal is written for the fans to revel in the moment and i very much doubt that this part will be actually looked bad upon ever, even thought the writing is consistently shit. Besides when Luke knows where Baby Yoda is thought the force, he could have gotten him way sooner, on his own. But then, there would not be that big goodbye with Mando and Baby Yoda...
It's strange for Bo Katan to be really stuck up about legitimately winning the dark saber because of tradition. She was introduced by laughing at Mando taking the rules so seriously and has repeated moments of characterization as a morally grey and very ambitious person who will lie, cheat, and steal to accomplish their goals. What's so different now that she can't just take the sword and lie about it? I have a sneaking suspicion that the only thing that's different is the writers wanting more drama, so the script says she's a very honorable and traditional Mandalorian now. I realize that this complaint is a small drop in a very large ocean, but this is a character that has only been introduced this season and was hyped as being a big deal girl-Mando and they can't even keep her consistent for the two episodes she's in.
Not to discredit your valid point, but it didn't seem to go well the first time around. The edgesaber got lost, more Mandos died, obviously she needs to do this right this time around.
I would have liked to have seen the character of jay exci being kicked or with some rhino milk in the episode. I would have clapped for that Missed opportunity mandalorion
It deeply saddens me that the TLJ lovers that said "You just want superheroes in Star Wars" seem to actually be correct for much of the fanbase. So, it seems there's actually three segments of fans. Those who want themes and depression, those who want lots of lightsabers and explosions and worship the rule of cool, and the few who want some goddamn good writing for once.
A Mandalorian defender on another channel asked me to come up with my own story for Mando if I was so convinced the show was bad, but I had to keep Boba, Luke, Ahsoka, and Bo Katan in the show. Here's what I came up with in ten minutes. "First off make him competent and not an utter moron which the character of Din is. Spend almost the entire first Season with him solely doing his job. Working increasingly difficult and lucrative bounties which require him to hunt his quarry using investigative skills, and his natural abilities. This allows us to get used to the character. To said character's abilities. Their contacts and resources. It endears us to him. Then end the first season with the reveal of Baby Yoda during the job for the Empire. But change the fact that he's an infant to him being a Toddler. Which will allow Mando to better communicate with the child. For him to mold the child's values. For the child to express itself and show its own personality. Also don't half ass Mando's distrust of droids and certainly don't get rid of it for no damn good reason. After this first season have the start of the second season with Mando feeling called to protect this child who instinctively clings to him as a source of protection. You can do so much with the child being confused and hurt by Mando's refusal to show his face. Now Mando will have to cope with Bounty Hunters he had once considered friends and allies, coming after him. Have him spend much of the second season on the run developing new friendships and alliances in his efforts to keep the Jedi safe. He can at one point return to Mandalore seeking the protection of Bo Katan the new Mandalore herself. But when the child shows Force sensitivity in front of the Mandalorians it sparks a distrust in some that knew the history well of the Mandalorian Jedi wars of Millennia past. Wars that Mando himself knew about. Bo Katan would send him around the end of Season 2 to find Ahsoka, a former Jedi she knew. Season 3 would focus on him seeking out Ahsoka and Din trying to help the child through its confusion and fear over it's powers. We can find Ahsoka and even perhaps an older Ezra with her, travelling the galaxy and trying to do good. This can be when the Mandalorian first hands the child over to the Jedi. With the child clinging to the Mandalorian he now views as a father, tears in its eyes. And that can be when Din first takes off his mask in the entire series. A very impactful moment. Season 4 would focus on Mando's renewed journeys on his own. His struggles to find work given his new reputation as a traitor to the guild with a high bounty on his head. He seeks refuge in a small Tatooine community of moisture farmers for a time, now no longer wearing his helmet. Viewing his removal of his helmet in front of another, even a loved one, to be so shameful that he would refuse to don the helmet again. A bounty hunter eventually tracks him to this village. Boba Fett, who is seeking the money needed to begin again after his harrowing escape from the Sarlacc Pit. The two duel each other and fight to a near draw. When Boba gets the upper hand and is ready to deal a killing stroke. A child from the village that Mando had befriended however gets in the way, and Boba hesitates, deciding to spare the fellow Mandalorian. The two call a truce of sorts and Boba agrees to not turn Din in as a bounty on the condition that Din helps him retrieve his ship that had been stolen by a band of wannabe gangsters that has moved into the power vacuum Jabba had left after his death. Din and Boba together storm Jabba's Palace and each save each other's lives multiple times in the harrowing fight, leading to a growing bond as Mandalorians forged together by battle. The two take the Castle as their own after wiping out the smugglers. With Boba setting up a sort of bounty hunting enclave there. A source for new jobs for Din, his new battle brother. Season 5 would focus on Din going on Bounty Hunting missions initially when he hears of a huge bounty placed on all Jedi, and in particular Ahsoka Tano and her young charge, by the Imperial remnants. Knowing them to be in danger Din goes on a quest with the aid of Boba to find them. He eventually does probably around mid season and the two characters have an emotional reunion. Ahsoka and Din argue but she admits that her travels around the galaxy were ill suited for protecting the child. She advised that Din takes the child to the Academy Luke Skywalker had developed on the jungle world of Yavin IV. Din does so, but this time he does not leave the child. Boba returns to Tatooine but Din chooses to remain in the jungles. Living a subsistence life as a hunter. So he could remain close to protect the child should danger come. The season would end with an Imperial attack on Yavin and Din fighting to defend the child alongside Luke's Jedi Order. And after that you can take the show anywhere. Lucasfilm rushed a show that didn't need to be rushed. And as such combined with lazy and frankly shitty writers, the show was garbage. These general ideas I literally just came up with off the top of my head right now, coming up with various bits and borrowing some other small pieces from other sources. And I am a layman with no real experience in writing. But a passionate person with even a pinch of creativity can come up with a lot. Even in a short period of time. Given more I'd refine this further. Iron out any shaky bits. Consider what might need to be reworked. And add in specifics. But I consider this far better even as a plot outline draft, than what they did."
If they’d have had the Ashoka episode first to give Mando the prophecy about tython from the beginning and then had him actively searching for it, they could have fixed so many problems with this season. Mando could have been actively seeking people out instead of stumbling in to them and not constantly looked like the sidekick in his own show. Make the imperials less cartoonish so there’s an actual threat, and the show becomes far more dramatic Which is what’s so maddening. The writing mistakes here as so blatantly obvious but there is no effort to address them.
Boba Fett is back on Tatooine to finish the job he started, that farm boy gotta return to the moisture farm someday...... ..... ..... ..... ...... someday.
I couldn’t stop laughing when Mando was punched in the helmet like 7 times. It was absolutely ridiculous. And I think Rags nailed it when he said that people just want to see the old shit again. It doesn’t matter if it’s well written or not, so long as it tugs at your nostalgia. Also, I don’t remember if it was Mauler or Rags, but my favourite quote from this series of EFAP mini is “The Mandalorian is just Batwoman with a budget” 🤣
Obviously it matters if its good writing. Look at the sequel trilogy. People would rather see this luke killing droids than him drinking tiddy milk as a hermit
@@HBG313 Oh, I completely agree. TLJ was a failure in so many ways and the way they wrote Luke and Leia honestly felt like a slap in the face to all Star Wars fans. I’m just referring to the people that Rags was talking about. The people in the audience that don’t give a shit if the story or characters are written well, so long as they get to see the old, original characters doing cool shit even if it doesn’t make any sense.
I don't see the problem with the characters here. It would make less sense if luke did not show up. Maybe my knowledge of Legend content allows me to see where the story is going better than others. But it still felt very clear.
100% spot on. Full disclosure: Boba Fett is the character that got me heavily into Star Wars (especially the EU) as a child and I came to love Luke Skywalker. Did I like the Boba Fett stuff? Yes. Morrison remains an absolute GIFT to Star Wars via his depiction of Jango, his voice acting with the clones and now his depiction of Boba. Does this respect Luke more than anything else in Disney Star Wars? Also yes Is ALL OF THAT wrapped up in a plot that is terribly written, paced and set-up? Yes The show's not very good
The reason Boba Fett works so well is because just like the Jedi, Mandalorians have a massive lore and interesting stuff you could do. Hell, if you take the EU, every faction has some or the other background that makes them interesting. And even the characters that don't, they have enough mystery built in to their development. For example, folks in prison that get drafted into a story. You don't always get their full backstory, but there's cool groundwork to imply why they are the way they are. Han Solo. All we know is he's a smuggler. We don't need what planet he's from and where he does his shopping and who gave him his pet name, and how many English girls he banged before Leia. He's cool as he is, shrouded in mystery, a rogue, but sharp minded and goodhearted.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 We don't need to know where he's from, but if it naturally gets mentioned in passing or as part of the story, theres no issue.
Alternate ending to Season 1. "You must take the Child to the Jedi." "Oh, okay. I'll go visit the nearest New Republic outpost and ask 'hey, please pass on a message to Luke that I have a baby Yoda for him.'" "..."
That would've actually made sense in the context of RotJ, but the writers aren't interested in making sense or are incapable of it. It's unfortunate. Can you imagine these production values (minus Luke's face) with actually good writing? I want to live in that universe.
How about Bo-Katan or Ahsoka or LITERALLY ANYONE explaining to Mando that the Jedi and Yoda's species are not the same thing. The Armorer said to take it to its "kind" and mistakenly thought the Jedi were a race. The first thing to clear up in Season 2 would have been whether Mando is going to look for a Jedi or whether he's going to look for the mysterious planet of Yodas.
I'd say it's fair, since Sidekick Lady was formally trained. The real issue is how, since whenever it comes down to raw strength he should've overpowered her nigh immediately. That, and they should have burned each other to death with that flamethrower BS.
1:02:06 wow, that actually hurt me to hear. Like i felt physical disappointment and paused. How could they have missed that? The chance, the opportunity to have them even give a cautious nod to another or a cheeky smirk from luke to boba. Just. wtf man. We live in the universe where they went with r2d2 beeping at a little green baby instead of something that actually makes sense to be there for a nostalgia trip. Damn.
Would've loved for Luke to show a slightly stressed expression his way, while Boba maybe reaches for his gun or tenses up or something. Of course, that requires an actor and not a cgi corpse...
It's a damn shame to see this once beloved franchise sink into a pit like this, where Disney keeps sucking every drop of life from the originals and feeds it to the fanbase
Honestly, I don't find the music itself to be bad, but it feels oddly out of place. It'd probably fit better in a comedic parody of the show where the Edge Troopers just walk in lock-step with built-in speakers menacingly blasting dubstep outside the bridge. "They're here, what're we gonna do?!" "I dunno, but this beat kinda slaps tho" Gideon: "I know right? Everyone else was judging me for installing speakers on these things, but it's totally cool!"
Has Filoni forgotten his own lore? Because in Rebels Sabine passes the darksaber on to Bo Katan without fighting. Only won by combat my ass. Also they read out a comment that stated that previous Filoni shows would increase their understanding of the show previous to their coverage of episode 5. Turns out it devalues this show even more as the darksaber plothole or the sudden characer change of Ahsoka shows: jedi - no jedi - jedi again with the same narrow mindset regarding the training of younglings
The show's not over, be patient. Pretty sure they're going to address all that in the next season. But you could just say for now that her Pride wouldn't let her take it for a second time. Especially after having it stolen from her. She must be humiliated. If your leader lost the symbol of your people twice, would you follow her?
@@domagojzrilic6190 its important for shows to give you a reason to keep watching. Why answer all your questions now. Have you not watched any other shows before?
The T-4a _Lambda_-class shuttle does not have a docking ring, an airlock, or even any hatches that you could open in space that wouldn't just vent the entire hold. _Slave I_ has a docking ring in its original design, but a rear-facing radar dish was installed in that housing in its place, and that dish is still there throughout the episodes of this show. The episode begins. Immediately, _lol, we boarded your Lambda-class shuttle from Slave I and we're here now, hi!_ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I really want to see the other side of those "wElL aCtUaLlY in the lore!" arguments people use to defend these shows, and figure out what bits of lore they heavily contradict. Because I know quite a few friends who defend this show because "well in the lore" and treat it likes it saves the show or makes it good. I know Clone Wars shat on a lot of previously established lore, like for instance, ruining ARC troopers, so I'd be curious to see what things Mando gets wrong.
@@johnherb4243 i also missed most of the show, but from what i remember of seasons 1-5, they abandoned the idea that ARC troopers were their own breed of clones (with dna modified in a different way), personally trained by jango, and just had them as regular clones but with different training
I am not that bothered by it. The spear is historically baby's first weapon and is designed to be used by retarded peasants. However, the advanced sword deflecting techniques are weird.
@@RanockIronfist I agree that spears are one of the most easiest, most affordable weapons to use. However, much like with any weapon, training can transform spear wielders into very strong warriors.
@@pyerack I've seen really good original stories in the clone wars so I still have hope for good content Edit: The good stories in that show were made before they sold the franchise to Disney ... hmmmm remembering that I have less hope now
Season 1 was alright - new characters, new story..... ok we could actually have something great here. Season 2 they couldn’t help but corporatise Mando in desperation, I’ve never seen something devolve into Fantisms to buy love for Star Wars quick enough. As soon as season 1 got its foot in the door it was replaced by a Trojan horse. Mike Stoklasa said it best “Remember Star Wars”.
If I recall the Dark Saber originally in Clone Wars was just a spoil of past war against the Jedi passed down through the leadership one particular Mandalorian clan.
What's even funnier is the Phase III Dark Troopers in their original EU (Legends) appearance were made of a metal called Phrik, which is one of the few lightsaber resistant metals. So not only did they scavenge them from old sources, but had to change them in order to be able to have Luke save the day.
@@estebanuranga8267 They didn't. The main character of the game they appeared in, Kyle Katarn, shut down the project before it could get off the ground to any real major degree. There were 3 'Phases' to the project, which in other words were just different stages of the project. Phase 1's were melee based test beds droids, Phase 2's were just bulky stormies with better weapons and probably better armor, and Phase 3's were the finished product, but only a handful were fought before the factory went up in flames (although the rest of the EU continued to show Dark Troopers very occasionally, so obviously not. The wonders of decentralized writing). As for how...I dunno. It was a....what, late 90's video game? That was nothing but a Doom clone. It never really received any real, straight adaptions or such so far as I'm aware, so we have no idea how Kyle, who at this point wasn't even vaguely trained or even know he was Force sensitive, nevermind have a saber, beat the things. Overwhelming firepower aimed at weakspots in the armor, I suppose. Nor did Dark Troopers ever really appear outside of video games or tabletop, actually, bar a singular comic that isn't very helpful. As much as the fanbase hypes them up, we have very, very little to go on with them, bar vague shit like them being out of the truly faptastic Phrik (you think Beskar is bad? Holy fuck, the old EU had some staggeringly stupid shit in it, but having a vault of Phrik survive the Death Star superlaser hitting Alderaan is one of the more memorable bits to me personally), the fact they were armed to the teeth, and had jetpacks and presumably other toys. But the mere fact they were beaten by somebody like Katarn with zero training bar his innate skills and instinctual Force mojo has always been a bit of an embarrassment for things that are functionally supposed to be Star Wars super soldier equivalents ala Spartans or Space Marines.
Funny story - my mum visited me last week and I had this episode on. She thought I was a big fan and bought me a Baby Yoda mug for Xmas. I'm sitting here drinking whisky out of it.
I hate that the implication at the end of this whole arc is that Mando's actions to save the baby were completely meaningless. Luke flew his ship right up and walked in just him and R2 like it was an actual stroll through the park. My impression was that Luke could've saved the baby just fine if team Mando had sat on their hands and done nothing. Our heroes.
Why doesn't Mando just tell Cara Dune to tell the New Republic about this force sensitive child, who then would tell their leader Leia who then would tell Luke? Why does this season even exist?
I find it hilarious that this episode is being praised as saving Star Wars, but it's really dividing Star Wars fans again because now there is the side that claims Mandalorian is a poorly written show, and the other side that is wrong.
not really tbh, a lot of the fanbase think this is a step in the right direction... Just check out Drunk 3po, TSWG, Doomcock, HvS, Anomaly, Drinker, etc. This is the way
@@Magistrex-zt5he a small step maybe. it doesn't shit all over the original characters is the only difference. It does shit all over its audience intelligence tho
"Are we the only people who think, no guys, this isn't good". My thoughts exactly since the beginning of season 1 untill now. It never ceases to amaze me how Filoni and Favreau got away so easily with awful lazy writing by using cheap cynical tricks like turning Yoda into a cute baby and filling the show with other blatant member berries.
Lazy bad writing, pandering at its worst... but ohh cute baby, boba feet doing stuff, slave 1 doing stuff, luke doing stuff.... this is the best star wars ever. The franchise is saved. Lets record my reactions so people can see my tears of absolute joy... god, are people that desperate for good star wars?
@@thekunninglinguist2397 even at my most hardcore star wars fan days i necer reacted like these people do. It makes me embarrassed to be in the same fandom
The ocean levels have risen three inches world wide. Some say it was climate change but the real cause was Eric Butts crying because he saw this episode.
@@NobleRenegade7 They are Idiots! Not the Commenters. The stupid Crybabies that think this show is the best thing eva because it is filled to the brim with nostalgia and Fanservice.
Plot Twist: Grogu actually 'defeated' Gideon in a staring contest. When the Womandalorian beats Mando, she doesn't get ownership of the edgesaber. Instead, she has to defeat the baby... who went off with Jake.
the whole thing made me think of the rules for the Elder Wand in Harry Potter. Except more stupid. also let me tell you, being an upstanding male feminist myself, I gave a standing ovation when whats-her-tits was able to easily overpower Boba Fett in a brawl despite him having her tied up. I love watching men get their asses beat by women over and over again because it's so awesome and yass queen slay *barf*
Last one who 100% won the Darksaber in the battle was Darth Maul. He then used it to fight Palpatine and lost. So at the end...the Darksaber belongs to Rey. Wonderful.
I know the EFAP crew doesn't care for clone wars, but in regards to the "dark saber" when it was introduced it was just a lightsaber from the old republic stolen during the Mandalorian wars. It wasn't that special, wasn't called a dark saber, and certainly wasn't needed to be held or won by Mandalorian rulers. In Clone Wars Mandalore had been a peaceful world for ages, so this whole idea of claiming this lightsaber through combat clearly wasn't a thing for that period of time and there is no mention of it being what it is in The Mandalorian. The only thing close to this idea of the ruler wielding the saber is when Maul challenged and defeated the saber's owner Pre Vizla and claimed the saber, but even then it's not because of the saber that Maul became leader, it was because he was the stronger warrior, Mandalorians respect strength, which is why when he defeated their best they joined him. But even then not all Mandalorians followed him, in fact his victory divided the Mandalorians, and these anti-Maul Mandos definitely didn't care that he held the saber. By the way Bo Katarn was the one to lead the Mandos against Maul so why she would think she has to win the saber to never be questioned as leader is beyond me. Also if this saber was that important it would have been in the royal palace in the Duchess' hands, which it wasn't. Also the dark saber only became important in Rebels and now this show. I find it funny how they've added all this importance to a weapon that was introduced as just an old stolen lightsaber.
Yep. It was actually the helmet that meant the most to mandalorians. Whoever held the helmet, claimed the title of Mandalore. In Knights of the Old Republic, Revan kills Mandalore, and hides his helmet from the clans after the war.
@@piti368 Yep...they scrap everything thst came before. The thrawn trilogy, which are the TRUE sequels, KOTOR 1 and 2, etc, and replace it with the sequel trash, and Mandalorian filler. WHY?? I was worried when I heard they were doing a Mandalorian series. Even the armor design isn't as cool as the Mandos in KOTOR.
Last one who 100% won the Darksaber in the battle was Darth Maul. He then used it to fight Palpatine and lost. So at the end...the Darksaber belongs to Rey. Wonderful.
'long period of time' its mentioned from the begining that Duchess satine was the first peaceful ruler of mandalore, and later (within the first mando arc) mentions she and kenobi fell in love during the mandolorian civil war. so less than a generation ago they were still warriors. but otherwise yeah
Disney saw tlj defenders mention how the fandom menace wanted luke to kill the entire first order on his own, photoshopping lukes face on vader in the hallwayscene and decided "yep, they are right, this is what we should have done" From one awful extreme to another.
It just occurred to me that Boba Fett left his sniper friend on the warship, but then they're together again in the Book of Boba trailer. Did he just like awkwardly turn around and come back to pick her up?
One thing the mandolorian showed me is how similar many anti sjw and sjw channels are when it comes to entertainment. Both desire to be pandered too. Sjw want progressive politics and anti sjw generally want nostalgic eye candy, and when they are pandered to they both become consoomers who defend badly written corporate garbage.
@@Rap-vj9io i think the op meant that most people who opposed the sjw shit only cares becaus it wasnt pandering to them. He probably didnt mean the anti-sjw "group?"
to my absolutly limited knowledge. they got this place in the force wich connects all time and space in Rebels, the symbol of it is in the ashoka show. So my guess is they will use this to make EVRYTHING work out. Im pretty sure you can make yourself ready to see Raven fight Luke in the Second Deathstar in a couple of years.
Ahsoka Tano: I can sense pain and hatred in Baby Yoda, I will not train him. Knowing that Luke Skywalker tried to kill his nephew does not bode well for the wee man. I hope it's canon that Luke killed him, and also tried to kill his nephew.
@@pyerack hahaha it's later discovered that there is a mass grave next to the temple where Luke had been disposing of all the bodies of the Jedi that had dark thoughts or dreams.
Why does Bo care about the edge saber duel now when in clone wars her whole thing was she refused to follow Maul when he won the edge saber duel fair and square Also, them shooting that unarmed pilot trooper who had his hands up legit made me mad
In a morally complex show, something like that would be a topic to explore; In this show, it's writing incompetence that just makes our "heroes" look like dicks
I can't believe this episode proves Grace Randolph right when she said that people would have liked the Last Jedi if they gave Luke a badass fight scene before he died.
@@triphan7570 People have shown they dont care really. Nuance escapes most of them. Maybe i'm just cynical bastards but i have evidence to validate my view.
It's actually so fucking pathetic it hurts my soul. This is actually more ... I don't know. Deflating, than the Sequels. Because we had legions behind us that knew the Sequels were trash. But this? This is TFA syndrome all over again. This let's Disney know just what sort of crap they can shovel to get the lemmings in line. Cool epic nostalgia. No brain cells required.
The darksaber combat thing is bullshit, Sabine handed Bo Katan the saber, there was no combat But even with this rule, you give Gus the darksaber, you kneecap him, have Bo Katan kick him, you're done
@@Stephen64138 she was give the saber in rebels. In fact after I wrote this comment I saw the boys actually watched that bit from rebels in this very video. None of it makes sense, everything's retarded
It’s weird to see him acting so stoic and detached. He certainly did mature between ESB and RotJ, but he never lost that sense of warmth and talkativeness. I always liked that moment on Endor when Luke and co. meet the ewoks, and he has this big grin on his face because of the potential he sees in them despite looking like little teddy bear people. You’re telling me his eyes wouldn’t even light up just a little upon meeting a baby that looks just like Yoda? RotJ kinda went out of its way to show that Luke _wasn’t_ like the Jedi of old, so it feels incredibly off to see him acting like a stereotypically stoic Jedi; saying very little and barely even cracking a smile. Just like it’s also incredibly hard for me to believe that he’d see that this child (apparently) has such a connection to Mando that he’d be okay with permanently separating them just like that with hardly any discussion. Could he not even be fucked to ask the kid’s name?
@@unpopularopinions7407 you’d think he’d have some questions, but nah. I was hoping he’d smile a bit and even have a bit of banter, but I feel like they’re almost over correcting from TLJ. The less he talks and shows any personality, the less chance they have of screwing Luke up.
@@unpopularopinions7407 This is just a small thing but I've never ever in the history of ever seen where it is written that stoic = can never have/show emotions. I don't understand why that's the interpretation hollywood seemingly always goes with.
Are Disney actually watching EFAP? First we have Cara Dune dunk on "objective opinions" without it actually making sense in the conversation....and then we have Mando using a spear as a sword-like weapon. Have we been compromised?
@@asepsisaficionado7376 I know it's not gonna happen, but it'd be the greatest thing in the world if they just never acknowledge what happens to him. Meanwhile, we all know...
"they lock on after a million shots missed" | Mauler, haven't you played Fallout? That's how it works you get tired of trying to aim only to use VATS cause you just lose hope.
Alternatively, you keep up fire manually while your system locks on to try and put damage on them even if you miss most of your shots. No harm in trying with effectively infinite ammo.
Just a little note, Luke's gun jams when they are in the trash compactor after saving Leia and he is attacked by the thing in ep4. I never realized until rewatching last night.
Do you guys remember Cosmonaut saying that people only hated TLJ Luke because he didn't flip around destroying ATATs at the end? I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to think he has kind of a point.
While it's a possibility that star wars fans wanted a monke brain neuron activation it's also possible strong emotional reactions are result of how he was treated in sequels.
It was more how he was portrayed in that movie than anything else, even if he did end up destroying AT-AT’s the audience would be mostly numb at that point because of all the ridiculous nonsense that was the rest of TLJ.
Luke being there at that exact moment is so lucky, it’s shit. The fact that the dark troopers provided the first stakes in the entire season and the got literally ejected out of the episode, then destroyed immediately when they came back is so stupid.
Remember previously in the episode where blaster bolts did not work on the dark troopers. The first or second kill from Luke was him deflecting a blaster bolt back at one of them piercing its armor. Do the dark troopers have more powerful blasters and why would they have that?
Just to play devils advocate, why wouldn't they have stronger blasters? The same thing happens between B2 droids and Super Battle Droids; if there's a way to make a weapon better, it'll be done. The real question should be: *why were they outfitted with blasters that can destroy their own armor/casing?* That is what doesn't make sense. That could be answered: Simply because Jedi and deflecting blaster bolts hasn't been that much of a major issue, outside of a few outliers like Luke and Ashoka. Design-wise and financially, it wouldn't make sense to account for this. They were probably most likely already really expensive to manufacture. I'll also add, but not knock EFAP for it since it's non-movie info: Stormtrooper armor isn't really meant to be protective at all, just imposing and that decision was intentional to cut costs... since troopers were extremely replaceable under the empire, and no major faction existed that couldn't be quelled by sheer numbers, protecting soldiers wasn't a priority to Palpatine, the Moffs, or anyone really. The armor itself was cheap, and only kind of capable of withstanding glancing shots from blaster bolts unreliably. Basically just an outfit or uniform. The only thing they gain from the armor is reduced sight thanks to the small tinted visor, and Disney added that they have rebreathers... but only for gas.
Presumably to get through shit like blast doors, heavy armor, and the odd beskar, I would guess. And when the Empire has crazy-ass weaponry I tend to assume it's kyber crystal stuff because of how they swept the galaxy for it to make the Death Star work.
@@ouroboros5793 well stormtrooper armour did protect the wearer to sum degree but instead of trying to stop it like clone armour it's designed to disperse the energy, so the wearer is simply knocked over or fall unconscious
@@thescottishanimeguy9946 "The armor itself was cheap, and only kind of capable of withstanding glancing shots from blaster bolts unreliably" Yes, this was mentioned but thank you; Having your troops knocked out, having their lungs collapse, or suffering major blunt trauma and internal bleeding from the force of a bolt is not ideal armor. Hence why I stated what it did do instead, albeit poorly.
@@ouroboros5793 I'm not really sure arguing stormie armor is garbage because it doesn't help against direct hits (silly fandom myths aside) from blasters is the wisest idea. Or....what, do you think, say, clone trooper, or FO trooper, or B2 armor, or so on and so forth, is particularly helpful against most rifles? Because if so, I'd recommend watching the movies (or TCW, or basically any piece of SW media) with a functioning brain.
btw, there's a scene in the hallway where Luke clearly gets shot. Like...two Darktroopers are firing at him and he swings his sword, but they keep firing while his guard is clearly down and they even animated the blaster sparks, but because the camera is behind Luke they just pretend he blocked something he clearly didn't. Great choreography, Rian Jonson would be proud
@Isle OfDonSpuart His x-wing blew up in a fiery explosion on the surface of the death star, which also exploded soon after. So with Disney's rules he still has 7 lives left.
Honestly though. This guy had the respect of fucking Darth Vader himself, or at least appeared to in ESB. How does someone like that lose to some rando Mando?
Better ending... Luke walks in, takes off his hood, stares at mando and says "fight me". Mandos dark saber extends with a woosh. Black out. Directed by M&M shamalamaman.
Ming Na Wen literally dodges a blaster bolt like if it was the Matrix. They make it seem like if it was a badass stunt, it was just embarrassing and pathetic.
The Empire really needs to up their game in Disney Star Wars, they’re too much a joke at this point to be considered a threat. Though they’re still better than TFO but that is a incredibly low bar.
Disney: "See? The Empire was incompetent. Just like Return of the Jedi! Remember that film! And THIS is why we need the First Order, to be a real threat once again!"
Hang on! Where did Luke actually put Grogu on the X-Wing? Have you seen the interior of an X-Wing cockpit? There’s barely enough room for one person. It is the textbook definition of “utilitarian”. Grogu would have obstructed his view if he was on his lap. It would have made sense, in-universe, for Luke to have flown a two seater Y-Wing bomber in anticipation of getting an extra passenger. But, they gotta jingle those nostalgia keys so the fanboy tears flow.
Stray observations: Girl Power against Boba Fett, the dark Saber is the deathly hallow wand, Leia was quicker to return to the ship than the dark troopers, the big bad Gus doesn't kill a single character, If Gus knew everything Mando was plotting, why didn't he shoot the ship knowing that it was a ruse, Yoda blood creates Palpatine clones perhaps, Luke didn't actually save them because they weren't in danger. Mando armor is Saber proof yet is refined by intense flame, the dark trooper didn't remove Mandos helmet with his free hand.
After hearing the EFAP gang describe how the Mandalorian plot could have been done better I have come to realize that this show is basically a Disneyfied sci-fi version of Goblin Slayer. Ironically though the goblins are treated as an actual threat whereas stormtroopers are just walking dominoes.
In the old EU nobody tried to take a Star Destroyer, because it is impossible to do it without the sacrifice of hundreds of people. And here we have like, five people taking one?
It’s not a SD, but an Arquitens light cruiser. 300-ish m long, crew of 100, 100 passengers capacity, still fucking retarded how easily it gets taken out.
So, why does "The Force Awakens" have a tied down Tie Fighter, but even this show didn't have that? So, Kara (Cara?) Dune is from Alderaan and she was with the rebellion, right? So, why doesn't she immediately recognize the guy who destroyed the Death Star? I mean he did have an award ceremony, yes? Mando, you didn't think to maybe tell Luke that they have Grogu's blood? Also, no one I've seen has brought this up, but with them taking Grogu's blood and having the clone doctor they are trying to fix Snoke's origins, right? Man, that must've been awkward. Fett coming back to get Fennek.
I think what's worse than having all the old characters back. Is having them back but with their personality changed so they fall perfectly in line with what the main character needs. Boba is back and now he wants to help people, Bo Katan is back but she's now super nice and isn't a crazy terrorist hell bent on conquering Mandalore, Luke is here but only for a cameo and just is a strange get out of jail card for the main character, ashoka is here but now she's an emotionless jedi even though she was thrown out the order and thought the jedi order was wrong. Can they just have one character who isn't changed so plot can happen.
Luke flew alone on a one man x-wing to pick up an unknown force user. What would have happened if he found a full grown kid and not a purse sized one? would he have had to ride with a kid he doesn't know sitting on his legs in a tight one man x-wing?
Imagine a bunch of Turbolasers had just blasted the X-Wing out of the sky... Luke is really good... but is he Rey/Poe levels of OP in an X-Wing? Plus the Republic arriving would have given us hope, that they have something of a competence...
Either Kylo Ren Kills baby Yoda, or Grogu canonically survives 2 school shootings
Nice
That’s just some bad luck. Like the guy who was there for Hiroshima and Nagasaki and lived to tell about it.
Love it 👍
he will be taken by palp in secrety and gets turned into snoke
@@1stmorgoth289 🤔 results also into botched smoke clones?
Luke's presence doesn't really make a difference in terms of redeeming the sequels, cuz TLJ Luke still exists.
Now, everytime I see Luke pick up baby yoda, looking at him with cold, computerized eyes I think "baby gonna have a bad time" lol
Babyguuurl
Maybe Luke sacrifices baby yoda to that geen milk thing that he drank from
"Are you lost baby girl"
Merry Christmas, JLong
They’ll probably have some bullshit novel or game about grogu being on a mission when it all goes down so he’s still alive. Cause you can’t kill your money cow like that. Just fucking ugh at all of this crap Disney has made.
‘Where do they go after this?’
Anakin Skywalker rises from the grave. He looks at Rey and says ‘Rey Palpatine Skywalker, you are stunning, brave, and subversive. Thank you for standing up to the evil, toxic trolls. You truly are a Star Wars: The Last Jedi’
Basically Assoka S1E5.
Luke tells Mando "You must go to Toshi station and pick up some power converters for me, then I will take the child"
Underrated comment
"He doesn't want to go with you."
"He can waste time with his friends when his chores are done."
"It's only one season more..."
Star Wars theory would coom
Haha I've seen A New Hope too! Good job!
1:04:56 " I wanna see Boba as a badass crime lord , bountyhunter" ..... Well... That aged like milk 😆
@@nmr7203 Even in the Ot, he had a badass armor, he was the one who spotted luke in the bespin palace. In the clone wars little boba was shown to be a capable mind in terms of tactics... So yes i would have been fine with a cool crime lord story.
@@nmr7203 that was the point...
Watching this after S3 of Mando and Bob Fett came out just makes this even funnier knowing wuts to come lol
Tbf Rags did also say "They'll fuck it up"
"Revive the past - exploit it if you have to" - Reylo Raggins
"It's the only way to make the money you were meant to make"
To summarize Luke's dialogue in this episode... "Watcha bring me?"
Muh baby
Jake*
@@johnellisbushbush ok I agree this wasn't Luke but he certainly wasn't Jake, he wasn't that bad
@@StupidWeb it’s what it’s leading too... anything after Return of the Jedi is Jake
@@johnellisbushbush I mean, there's rumors they're decanonizing the sequels
"I fuckin' hate Star Wars."
-Billburr Baggins
You should’ve done it like Quinton
“Here’s the thing... I fucking hate Star Wars”-BillBurr Baggins
I miss Bill ❤️
truly a prophet of our time
Yeah but he loves classic westerns and that era of cinema, which is how Mandalorian was pitched and kinda started as (that's why I still like S1). Now, it's probably just a money job for him. Altough at least his character is pretty interesting so I hope he had fun filming this.
Nobody hates Star Wars more than the people making Star Wars.
I love how they set up Kara's alderan history in this episode but she doesn't recognize the guy who destroyed the death star
@@No-One-of-Consequence I could never judge someone for having a thing for Gina Carano. She is an ultra babe.
It doesn't even matter if she's from Alderaan. She was part of a rebel black ops clean up squad, she knew who she was working for, right?
By new Disney books, Luke was not important, all honour for victory belongs to Jyn Erso. Because girl power, I guess...
@@No-One-of-Consequence "Polish the saber" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@No-One-of-Consequence Dude, she should _polish_ his sabre since Mara's non-existent.
You know this is exactly what I expected when Disney bought Star Wars, 80% fan service and nostalgia with a writing quality somewhere between Michael Bay movies and Saturday morning cartoons. It's just incredibly sad that it took 8 years to get up to this quality.
Lol whatever you say
@@pyerack okay whatever you say
Jar Jar’s the key to all this, if we get Jar Jar working. Cause he’s a funnier character than we’ve ever had before in any of the movies.
@@pyerack lol your so very funny
Saturday morning cartoons mean what exactly? Like, I'm genuinely asking
Random thought: Isn't it strange that Mando has no idea what a Jedi is, despite them being Generals in the Clone Wars, and handing the Mandalorian's their greatest historical defeat? Yet, for some reason, he decided to randomly learn Tusken Raider history, customs, and language.
I thought the show was being smart about him not knowing much about tuskans because when he first meet them he uses a sign language that could possibly be universal used but later on he explicitly speaks their language and knows there customs so nevemind.
If the headquarter was in Tatooine (I don't remember season 1) then it makes sense learning Tusken because in tatooine you will run into them and it's better being able to speak to them to strike a deal instead of fighting them every time .. But that depends if he spend a lot of time in Tatooine or not
In lore Mandalorians and Tuskens have *some* history, though that’s still a bit of a stretch (which could again be excused since he doesn’t really come off as ‘bilingual’ or fluent in Tusken stuff from what I recall). Also in the new canon, creamy Sheev did his best to erase every trace of the Jedi (though you’d reckon someone raised by Mandalorian extremists would know about the lads that put their nutsack on his whole group’s forehead but eh)
They don't care at all to explore mandalorian culture.Mando is apparently part of a super religious sect,but bone of that is explored.I guess the writers expect you to have seen all the show and read all the books.Now call me crazy,but I think a show about a mandalorian would be a great opportunity to explore/explain some of this stuff at leas a bit.
That could be because he’s part of the extremist zealots and the armorer wanted them to have only enough information to operate but not enough to make her obsolete, having a cult like mentality with all of them. The conflict would be mando pondering between is she just a pragmatic leader that was just using the mandos under her by keeping them all intentionally uninformed for greater control or some sort of mother figure to him but is it because she deserves the title or just because of the Stockholm syndrome he has. Too bad they didn’t explore it
The Dark troopers turned out to be nothing more than rock 'em sock 'em robots.
Disney once again takes EU content and ruins it.
Or rather Disney goes -
"We put in your EU stuff into Star Wars again, it's back!"
"No, you made them a joke."
"SHUT UP TOXIC MANBABY!"
🤣
It's so Luke doesn't slice n dice living things in Disney Wars.
So far the only thing he's even threatened is his own nephew.
@@TheMaleRei You do know that he Dark Troops have multiple versions in the EU? These look like Mk. 1s, I can't remember but either Mark 2s or 3s can take on Jedi.
Mando ejects robot troopers into space
They come back
Mando: "They fly now?"
They fly now!
@@Stephen64138 God damn autocorrect. 🤣
Why does the robot storage area have a door that opens directly into space?
@@KneelB4Bacon I guess to deploy them?
@@Rivian_Jedi THEY FLY NOW!
"I want to see the Book of Boba Fett more than The Mandalorian..." ...oh poor Rags. Poor, poor Rags.
A better premise, but they mucked it up even worse than Mando. Boy did they prove him wrong. 😅
Disney never fail to disappoint
He did say that they were gonna eff it up tho
Yes, but how did it **MAKE YOU FEEL**
It made me feel hallow because I can see that they submerged their crap writing in memberberry soup.
It made me feel angry.
like watermelon
Like lettuce and tofu with generic oil dressing.
“Hey remember me?”
“No”
“The audience does.”
*Creepy Luke stare*
Is that supposed to be "Luke Skywalker"?
-Rey Palpatine
Jake Deepfaker: Hey friends I'm Luke Skywalker, *smiles*
Disnoids: OMG I'm crying this is the best moment of my life
I remember when writing took effort, I feel old now.
People complained about CG Tarkin and Leia, but this is like way worse.
I’m so happy someone else pointed this out. Everyone in that room has no idea who he is but they just hand this child over
@@sebastianhill9150 yeah, very obscure. Luke, hero of the rebellion, suddenly got unknown over a short period of time.
"I assume your friends killed everyone on the bridge, being the murderous psychopaths that they are"
That's funny coming from the guy who killed a dozen of his own troopers last season for interrupting him.
The lack of self awareness is staggering.
And as a rule, one of the worst failures of writing a character is when you write someone to be intimidating and menacing, but it makes the audience laugh.
Its like Chris Stuckmann's mick BvS scene that he wrote. I fully believe that when you are in a certain zone, you might find something sounds cool. But when you read it again, and get the context of what you wrote before said scene, it breaks and sounds not so good and sometimes just cringe.
I agree with MauLer when he says people need to redraft.
Yes and the fact he's part of a huge galactic order who blows up planets if they don't follow their orders.
The Book of Watto: No Money, No Parts, No Deal!
"Fanservice will do fine"
"No it won't"
Okay but hear me out, a Pawn Stars styled reality show about Watto.
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ I would unironically watch that.
Mayfeld Vlogs
It's just Bill BUrr going around the galaxy reacting to stuff. 6 season.
The Book of Binks
In the style of the three stooges, Jar Jar goes around trying to do helpful things but being the clumsy idiot he is, he makes a mess of things.
"the robots were the final weakness...so we removed the robots inside and outside...and replaced them with children"
-John Empire, Founder of Empire 2
I like how they got rid of the third male mandalorian so they could have their all female team.
Like... immediately too. Not even a gradual thing.
He was probably in the restroom and when he walked out, they weren’t there anymore.
Male privilege at his finest.
He walked his ass away from this dumpster fire
@@user-qp4ij4yl8y cringe
@@user-qp4ij4yl8y why do you hate women micheal
The emotion that a scene of Luke Skywalker at the height of his powers going up against a squad of combat droids evokes should not be _boredom_ . Yes, we want Luke to be nearly untouchable at that point in time, but it should be _despite_ the resistance he faces and the skill and efforts of his adversaries, not because the most threatening thing one of the killer droids does is put a hand on his shoulder like it's trying to stop him to ask if he's got a light.
The whole scene just felt incredibly empty
You nailed it.
Luke Skywalker is awesome. But he's still a stupid ex-machina. Which is how 90% of conflict in this series resolves itself.
All they have to add is one scene before this, in a previous episode, to set up the cameo. Boba Fett got two stingers before he entered.
How about have Asoka Tano mention Baby Yoda and Mando to another contact person after they've left, at the end of that episode, to imply that word reaches Luke.
Or have an X-Wing show up at the Jedi Temple after everyone has gone away, at the end of the previous episode, implying that Baby Yoda called through the force.
You don't even have to show Luke Skywalker himself. Its suspenseful enough, given no one expected him to make an appearance this series anyway.
Just set it up. So that it at least has at least a little more impact than it did. Fan service can be done well if you take the time.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 Technically the set up was Baby Yoda making the call, really anybody could have showed up, maybe even Mace Windu, cause fuck it why not, it all culminated into a ex-machina saving the day anyway.
Yeah, but that's the thing. We're left to assume Baby Yoda reached out to someone through the force. We don't see anyone respond. Not even in a stinger. I'm not saying "show me Luke Skywalker straightaway".
But, if they'd just left a stinger showing "someone unknown" was on their tail after Baby Yoda was on the stone and got taken, it would've made for a reveal with greater impact.
We know there's "someone", we "assume it could be anyone" and then "holy shit, Luke Skywalker!" Just set it up.
Instead we get, "What? Of course, they can't beat all the death Troopers. Oh look, someone else is here to save their ass. Oh look, Luke Skywalker."
And then he just leaves. Not a single question asked. Jedi and Mandalorians have a history. They are all on an Empire ship. There's at least a few lines of dialogue missing about why Mando has Baby Yoda and why does he save him and help the Jedi... Just something... Nope, gotta go, thanks for my baby, bye, bye. Its nice to see Luke. Really, it is. But it feels hollow.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 Your assumption is that Baby Yoda reached out to somebody specific. But my understanding was, when you reach out into the force, it's like a whale calling out in the ocean, everyone who can pick up on it, feels him reaching out.
Everything after Lukes reveal is written for the fans to revel in the moment and i very much doubt that this part will be actually looked bad upon ever, even thought the writing is consistently shit. Besides when Luke knows where Baby Yoda is thought the force, he could have gotten him way sooner, on his own. But then, there would not be that big goodbye with Mando and Baby Yoda...
It's strange for Bo Katan to be really stuck up about legitimately winning the dark saber because of tradition. She was introduced by laughing at Mando taking the rules so seriously and has repeated moments of characterization as a morally grey and very ambitious person who will lie, cheat, and steal to accomplish their goals. What's so different now that she can't just take the sword and lie about it? I have a sneaking suspicion that the only thing that's different is the writers wanting more drama, so the script says she's a very honorable and traditional Mandalorian now. I realize that this complaint is a small drop in a very large ocean, but this is a character that has only been introduced this season and was hyped as being a big deal girl-Mando and they can't even keep her consistent for the two episodes she's in.
Not to discredit your valid point, but it didn't seem to go well the first time around. The edgesaber got lost, more Mandos died, obviously she needs to do this right this time around.
The Rescue with Jay Exci is my favourite Mando episode
Wait a minute.........
Merry Christmas Jay. Hope you had a blessed and cozy one.
question: where does one grab that randomizer from? xD
I would have liked to have seen the character of jay exci being kicked or with some rhino milk in the episode.
I would have clapped for that
Missed opportunity mandalorion
In Rebels, Sabine gave it to Bo Katan and there was no issue
@@jamesware3370 blue rhino milk
It deeply saddens me that the TLJ lovers that said "You just want superheroes in Star Wars" seem to actually be correct for much of the fanbase.
So, it seems there's actually three segments of fans. Those who want themes and depression, those who want lots of lightsabers and explosions and worship the rule of cool, and the few who want some goddamn good writing for once.
Lucasfilm learned the wrong lessons from the failure of TLJ.
A Mandalorian defender on another channel asked me to come up with my own story for Mando if I was so convinced the show was bad, but I had to keep Boba, Luke, Ahsoka, and Bo Katan in the show. Here's what I came up with in ten minutes.
"First off make him competent and not an utter moron which the character of Din is. Spend almost the entire first Season with him solely doing his job. Working increasingly difficult and lucrative bounties which require him to hunt his quarry using investigative skills, and his natural abilities. This allows us to get used to the character. To said character's abilities. Their contacts and resources. It endears us to him. Then end the first season with the reveal of Baby Yoda during the job for the Empire. But change the fact that he's an infant to him being a Toddler. Which will allow Mando to better communicate with the child. For him to mold the child's values. For the child to express itself and show its own personality. Also don't half ass Mando's distrust of droids and certainly don't get rid of it for no damn good reason.
After this first season have the start of the second season with Mando feeling called to protect this child who instinctively clings to him as a source of protection. You can do so much with the child being confused and hurt by Mando's refusal to show his face. Now Mando will have to cope with Bounty Hunters he had once considered friends and allies, coming after him. Have him spend much of the second season on the run developing new friendships and alliances in his efforts to keep the Jedi safe. He can at one point return to Mandalore seeking the protection of Bo Katan the new Mandalore herself. But when the child shows Force sensitivity in front of the Mandalorians it sparks a distrust in some that knew the history well of the Mandalorian Jedi wars of Millennia past. Wars that Mando himself knew about. Bo Katan would send him around the end of Season 2 to find Ahsoka, a former Jedi she knew. Season 3 would focus on him seeking out Ahsoka and Din trying to help the child through its confusion and fear over it's powers. We can find Ahsoka and even perhaps an older Ezra with her, travelling the galaxy and trying to do good. This can be when the Mandalorian first hands the child over to the Jedi. With the child clinging to the Mandalorian he now views as a father, tears in its eyes. And that can be when Din first takes off his mask in the entire series. A very impactful moment.
Season 4 would focus on Mando's renewed journeys on his own. His struggles to find work given his new reputation as a traitor to the guild with a high bounty on his head. He seeks refuge in a small Tatooine community of moisture farmers for a time, now no longer wearing his helmet. Viewing his removal of his helmet in front of another, even a loved one, to be so shameful that he would refuse to don the helmet again. A bounty hunter eventually tracks him to this village. Boba Fett, who is seeking the money needed to begin again after his harrowing escape from the Sarlacc Pit. The two duel each other and fight to a near draw. When Boba gets the upper hand and is ready to deal a killing stroke. A child from the village that Mando had befriended however gets in the way, and Boba hesitates, deciding to spare the fellow Mandalorian. The two call a truce of sorts and Boba agrees to not turn Din in as a bounty on the condition that Din helps him retrieve his ship that had been stolen by a band of wannabe gangsters that has moved into the power vacuum Jabba had left after his death. Din and Boba together storm Jabba's Palace and each save each other's lives multiple times in the harrowing fight, leading to a growing bond as Mandalorians forged together by battle. The two take the Castle as their own after wiping out the smugglers. With Boba setting up a sort of bounty hunting enclave there. A source for new jobs for Din, his new battle brother.
Season 5 would focus on Din going on Bounty Hunting missions initially when he hears of a huge bounty placed on all Jedi, and in particular Ahsoka Tano and her young charge, by the Imperial remnants. Knowing them to be in danger Din goes on a quest with the aid of Boba to find them. He eventually does probably around mid season and the two characters have an emotional reunion. Ahsoka and Din argue but she admits that her travels around the galaxy were ill suited for protecting the child. She advised that Din takes the child to the Academy Luke Skywalker had developed on the jungle world of Yavin IV. Din does so, but this time he does not leave the child. Boba returns to Tatooine but Din chooses to remain in the jungles. Living a subsistence life as a hunter. So he could remain close to protect the child should danger come.
The season would end with an Imperial attack on Yavin and Din fighting to defend the child alongside Luke's Jedi Order. And after that you can take the show anywhere. Lucasfilm rushed a show that didn't need to be rushed. And as such combined with lazy and frankly shitty writers, the show was garbage. These general ideas I literally just came up with off the top of my head right now, coming up with various bits and borrowing some other small pieces from other sources. And I am a layman with no real experience in writing. But a passionate person with even a pinch of creativity can come up with a lot. Even in a short period of time. Given more I'd refine this further. Iron out any shaky bits. Consider what might need to be reworked. And add in specifics. But I consider this far better even as a plot outline draft, than what they did."
I'd watch it. That actually sounds really cool
God damn this is good.
This is so fucking cool.
If they’d have had the Ashoka episode first to give Mando the prophecy about tython from the beginning and then had him actively searching for it, they could have fixed so many problems with this season. Mando could have been actively seeking people out instead of stumbling in to them and not constantly looked like the sidekick in his own show. Make the imperials less cartoonish so there’s an actual threat, and the show becomes far more dramatic
Which is what’s so maddening. The writing mistakes here as so blatantly obvious but there is no effort to address them.
You could have just ask: why do they have to be there?
Boba Fett posing on Jabba's throne is peak fanservice. All he needs is Slave Leia tied up to this throne.
Dude! Nobody wants that! Not now anyway!
@@Ubermensch9240 Deepfake Slave Leia. You knew what I meant!
@@TheNoonish Still no! Uncanny Valley would ruin it!
Boba Fett is back on Tatooine to finish the job he started, that farm boy gotta return to the moisture farm someday......
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...... someday.
He has blue Leia.
I couldn’t stop laughing when Mando was punched in the helmet like 7 times. It was absolutely ridiculous. And I think Rags nailed it when he said that people just want to see the old shit again. It doesn’t matter if it’s well written or not, so long as it tugs at your nostalgia.
Also, I don’t remember if it was Mauler or Rags, but my favourite quote from this series of EFAP mini is “The Mandalorian is just Batwoman with a budget” 🤣
I want it to be a meme of EFAP roasting the Mandalorian show.
you're just afraid to disagree with Rags
Obviously it matters if its good writing. Look at the sequel trilogy. People would rather see this luke killing droids than him drinking tiddy milk as a hermit
@@HBG313 Oh, I completely agree. TLJ was a failure in so many ways and the way they wrote Luke and Leia honestly felt like a slap in the face to all Star Wars fans.
I’m just referring to the people that Rags was talking about. The people in the audience that don’t give a shit if the story or characters are written well, so long as they get to see the old, original characters doing cool shit even if it doesn’t make any sense.
I don't see the problem with the characters here. It would make less sense if luke did not show up. Maybe my knowledge of Legend content allows me to see where the story is going better than others. But it still felt very clear.
*Shop sells rotten watermelons*
Someone: Would it not be better to sell fresh watermelons?
SWTheory: I like watermelon
100% spot on.
Full disclosure: Boba Fett is the character that got me heavily into Star Wars (especially the EU) as a child and I came to love Luke Skywalker.
Did I like the Boba Fett stuff? Yes. Morrison remains an absolute GIFT to Star Wars via his depiction of Jango, his voice acting with the clones and now his depiction of Boba.
Does this respect Luke more than anything else in Disney Star Wars? Also yes
Is ALL OF THAT wrapped up in a plot that is terribly written, paced and set-up? Yes
The show's not very good
Good o'l EU... Disney ditched quality content for this garbage...
I've watched only a little so far. First few episodes were good, episodes 5 and 6 were trash.
The reason Boba Fett works so well is because just like the Jedi, Mandalorians have a massive lore and interesting stuff you could do.
Hell, if you take the EU, every faction has some or the other background that makes them interesting. And even the characters that don't, they have enough mystery built in to their development. For example, folks in prison that get drafted into a story. You don't always get their full backstory, but there's cool groundwork to imply why they are the way they are. Han Solo. All we know is he's a smuggler. We don't need what planet he's from and where he does his shopping and who gave him his pet name, and how many English girls he banged before Leia. He's cool as he is, shrouded in mystery, a rogue, but sharp minded and goodhearted.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 We don't need to know where he's from, but if it naturally gets mentioned in passing or as part of the story, theres no issue.
It's getting good. Kind of like TCW, which started slow, but became good from late Season 2 onwards.
Alternate ending to Season 1.
"You must take the Child to the Jedi."
"Oh, okay. I'll go visit the nearest New Republic outpost and ask 'hey, please pass on a message to Luke that I have a baby Yoda for him.'"
"..."
That would've actually made sense in the context of RotJ, but the writers aren't interested in making sense or are incapable of it. It's unfortunate. Can you imagine these production values (minus Luke's face) with actually good writing? I want to live in that universe.
Forget Season 1, since he should know what the Force and Jedi are he should have thought of that the moment Baby Yoda started doing s---.
I guess Mando has been to a New Republic half-way house and thought, nope! Because the New Republic is incompetent on every level.
Just pop over to Yavin 4 real quick and drop him off at the Jedi Academy.
How about Bo-Katan or Ahsoka or LITERALLY ANYONE explaining to Mando that the Jedi and Yoda's species are not the same thing. The Armorer said to take it to its "kind" and mistakenly thought the Jedi were a race. The first thing to clear up in Season 2 would have been whether Mando is going to look for a Jedi or whether he's going to look for the mysterious planet of Yodas.
Boba Fatt losing his fight to X-hair sidekick lady was lame
Remember how Boba Fett rarely instigated a fight and only fought when he needed to? Nah, he's gotta job to a nobody half his size.
@@theblacknothing and not win, don't forget the not winning outright part
very un boba, empire strikes back is ashamed
I'd say it's fair, since Sidekick Lady was formally trained. The real issue is how, since whenever it comes down to raw strength he should've overpowered her nigh immediately. That, and they should have burned each other to death with that flamethrower BS.
@@vadandrumist1670 My thoughts exactly. This fight really enraged me and it's setting up a bad picture of the 2021 Boba episodes.
@@theblacknothing I liked the old Boba better, maybe thats just me though...
1:02:06 wow, that actually hurt me to hear. Like i felt physical disappointment and paused. How could they have missed that? The chance, the opportunity to have them even give a cautious nod to another or a cheeky smirk from luke to boba. Just. wtf man. We live in the universe where they went with r2d2 beeping at a little green baby instead of something that actually makes sense to be there for a nostalgia trip. Damn.
Would've loved for Luke to show a slightly stressed expression his way, while Boba maybe reaches for his gun or tenses up or something. Of course, that requires an actor and not a cgi corpse...
“Do you remember Luke Skywalker”
Clapity Baggins
"No, I don't remember the Color of his Lightsaber, nor the Wisdom of his Words"
*CLAP* *CLAP* *CLAP* I REMEBER LUKE SKYWALKER *CLAP* *CLAP* *CLAP*
“IT BROKE NEW GROUND!”
HALLWAY SCENE IS CHARACTURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRISATION!
CLAP CLAP CLAP Lᴜᴋᴇ Sᴋʏᴡᴀʟᴋᴇʀ
CLAP CLAP CLAP
After watching this efap series, TH-cam has the wild notion that I like The Mandolorian now....so thanks for that
It's a damn shame to see this once beloved franchise sink into a pit like this, where Disney keeps sucking every drop of life from the originals and feeds it to the fanbase
It’s like your shit being recycled and fed back to you. Forever.
Yep.
They’re lucky this scene was actually good. Can’t say the same about parts of the bad batch
I started laughing my ass off when the Dubstep troopers arrived.
Thought they edited that in lmao
Honestly, I don't find the music itself to be bad, but it feels oddly out of place. It'd probably fit better in a comedic parody of the show where the Edge Troopers just walk in lock-step with built-in speakers menacingly blasting dubstep outside the bridge.
"They're here, what're we gonna do?!"
"I dunno, but this beat kinda slaps tho"
Gideon: "I know right? Everyone else was judging me for installing speakers on these things, but it's totally cool!"
“Then we demolished some more rebel scum using the power of Dubstep”
Imo, the music isn't bad but it doesn't fit much, especially for Star Wars
Dub Troopers
Has Filoni forgotten his own lore? Because in Rebels Sabine passes the darksaber on to Bo Katan without fighting. Only won by combat my ass. Also they read out a comment that stated that previous Filoni shows would increase their understanding of the show previous to their coverage of episode 5. Turns out it devalues this show even more as the darksaber plothole or the sudden characer change of Ahsoka shows: jedi - no jedi - jedi again with the same narrow mindset regarding the training of younglings
The show's not over, be patient. Pretty sure they're going to address all that in the next season. But you could just say for now that her Pride wouldn't let her take it for a second time. Especially after having it stolen from her. She must be humiliated. If your leader lost the symbol of your people twice, would you follow her?
@@CoolMyron yee
@@CoolMyron What?
@@domagojzrilic6190 its important for shows to give you a reason to keep watching. Why answer all your questions now. Have you not watched any other shows before?
He’s became a bit diment
The T-4a _Lambda_-class shuttle does not have a docking ring, an airlock, or even any hatches that you could open in space that wouldn't just vent the entire hold. _Slave I_ has a docking ring in its original design, but a rear-facing radar dish was installed in that housing in its place, and that dish is still there throughout the episodes of this show.
The episode begins.
Immediately, _lol, we boarded your Lambda-class shuttle from Slave I and we're here now, hi!_
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
These are the same people who think Mandalorian helmets are pressurized.
I really want to see the other side of those "wElL aCtUaLlY in the lore!" arguments people use to defend these shows, and figure out what bits of lore they heavily contradict. Because I know quite a few friends who defend this show because "well in the lore" and treat it likes it saves the show or makes it good.
I know Clone Wars shat on a lot of previously established lore, like for instance, ruining ARC troopers, so I'd be curious to see what things Mando gets wrong.
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ what did Clone Wars do to ARC troopers? I've missed most of that show.
@@johnherb4243 i also missed most of the show, but from what i remember of seasons 1-5, they abandoned the idea that ARC troopers were their own breed of clones (with dna modified in a different way), personally trained by jango, and just had them as regular clones but with different training
Also, isn’t the cockpit way bigger in this show than in RoTJ?
“Did he even have spear training??”
Silly, Rags, he IS the Red Viper you know
I am not that bothered by it. The spear is historically baby's first weapon and is designed to be used by retarded peasants. However, the advanced sword deflecting techniques are weird.
@@RanockIronfist yeah, maybe he did get spear training, we dont know. I wish we knew more about him, his past, his skills and such.
Weren't they teaching the farmers back in season 1 how to fight with a spear ? Pretty sure they were.
@@MrFallenone yeah
@@RanockIronfist I agree that spears are one of the most easiest, most affordable weapons to use. However, much like with any weapon, training can transform spear wielders into very strong warriors.
I hate the star wars has devolved into braindead imperials and character key jingling
And also
Remember this OG character ?!?! *claps*
@@pyerack I've seen really good original stories in the clone wars so I still have hope for good content
Edit: The good stories in that show were made before they sold the franchise to Disney ... hmmmm remembering that I have less hope now
You are a decade late.
@@The-Real-JD The Clone Wars are kind of a bit tism. Better content than Disney tho.
Season 1 was alright - new characters, new story..... ok we could actually have something great here.
Season 2 they couldn’t help but corporatise Mando in desperation, I’ve never seen something devolve into Fantisms to buy love for Star Wars quick enough. As soon as season 1 got its foot in the door it was replaced by a Trojan horse.
Mike Stoklasa said it best “Remember Star Wars”.
I love how Mando is part of a hardcore cult that follows the old ways of Mandalore and yet has no idea how ownership of the Dark Saber works.
If I recall the Dark Saber originally in Clone Wars was just a spoil of past war against the Jedi passed down through the leadership one particular Mandalorian clan.
@@BigBroTejano yes but in this show it’s treated as very important
What's even funnier is the Phase III Dark Troopers in their original EU (Legends) appearance were made of a metal called Phrik, which is one of the few lightsaber resistant metals. So not only did they scavenge them from old sources, but had to change them in order to be able to have Luke save the day.
Yup.
Interesting, how did they beat those lightsaber resisting Droids? Asuming they did beat them
@@estebanuranga8267 They didn't. The main character of the game they appeared in, Kyle Katarn, shut down the project before it could get off the ground to any real major degree. There were 3 'Phases' to the project, which in other words were just different stages of the project. Phase 1's were melee based test beds droids, Phase 2's were just bulky stormies with better weapons and probably better armor, and Phase 3's were the finished product, but only a handful were fought before the factory went up in flames (although the rest of the EU continued to show Dark Troopers very occasionally, so obviously not. The wonders of decentralized writing).
As for how...I dunno. It was a....what, late 90's video game? That was nothing but a Doom clone. It never really received any real, straight adaptions or such so far as I'm aware, so we have no idea how Kyle, who at this point wasn't even vaguely trained or even know he was Force sensitive, nevermind have a saber, beat the things. Overwhelming firepower aimed at weakspots in the armor, I suppose. Nor did Dark Troopers ever really appear outside of video games or tabletop, actually, bar a singular comic that isn't very helpful. As much as the fanbase hypes them up, we have very, very little to go on with them, bar vague shit like them being out of the truly faptastic Phrik (you think Beskar is bad? Holy fuck, the old EU had some staggeringly stupid shit in it, but having a vault of Phrik survive the Death Star superlaser hitting Alderaan is one of the more memorable bits to me personally), the fact they were armed to the teeth, and had jetpacks and presumably other toys. But the mere fact they were beaten by somebody like Katarn with zero training bar his innate skills and instinctual Force mojo has always been a bit of an embarrassment for things that are functionally supposed to be Star Wars super soldier equivalents ala Spartans or Space Marines.
Babu Phrik?
When will you phriks learn that your actions have consequences!!!
Can we just appreciate that this was the first Mandalorian episode that required a pause.
Funny story - my mum visited me last week and I had this episode on.
She thought I was a big fan and bought me a Baby Yoda mug for Xmas.
I'm sitting here drinking whisky out of it.
I hate that the implication at the end of this whole arc is that Mando's actions to save the baby were completely meaningless. Luke flew his ship right up and walked in just him and R2 like it was an actual stroll through the park. My impression was that Luke could've saved the baby just fine if team Mando had sat on their hands and done nothing. Our heroes.
Everyone clap when you see something you recognize. That way we can have the correct response.
Clap every time you remember star wars
I ‘member star wars
Don't clap too much that you're too exhausted to get excited for next product.
I CLAPPED, I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT
“Oh I member!”
Good old member berries.
Why doesn't Mando just tell Cara Dune to tell the New Republic about this force sensitive child, who then would tell their leader Leia who then would tell Luke? Why does this season even exist?
OMG......you freakin genius.....
damn this show is dumb
Because nobody seems to know one another anymore and everyone suffers from severe amnesia. 😂
Because the show needs to be interesting?
Because everyone on the show is stupid
I find it hilarious that this episode is being praised as saving Star Wars, but it's really dividing Star Wars fans again because now there is the side that claims Mandalorian is a poorly written show, and the other side that is wrong.
not really tbh, a lot of the fanbase think this is a step in the right direction... Just check out Drunk 3po, TSWG, Doomcock, HvS, Anomaly, Drinker, etc.
This is the way
@@Magistrex-zt5he a small step maybe. it doesn't shit all over the original characters is the only difference. It does shit all over its audience intelligence tho
Not to mention it still leads to the Sequel Trilogy unfortunately.
@@Magistrex-zt5he No It's not
@@Magistrex-zt5he Is the way, poorly written crap with member berries to sate people.
Beskar is the literal definition of plot armor
"I wanna see The Book of Boba Fett WAAAAAY more than I wanna see The Mandalorian"
Sure thing boss, comin' right up :)
My thoughts exactly
Oh how naive we all were.
Tears stream down Ericbuts face, kissing the massive boil. He lets out an earth-shattering moan as he big cooms when Green Lightsaber.
I nearly pissed myself reading this
His pants will never be dry again
I think I just big coomed when I read this.
I 'member
@@Neo2266.
His *ROOM* will never be dry again.
"Are we the only people who think, no guys, this isn't good".
My thoughts exactly since the beginning of season 1 untill now. It never ceases to amaze me how Filoni and Favreau got away so easily with awful lazy writing by using cheap cynical tricks like turning Yoda into a cute baby and filling the show with other blatant member berries.
I swear I want all these hacks dragged before an EFAP tribunal.
Yes, many people seem to be mistaking “not aggressively insulting the audience” for “good”
Lazy bad writing, pandering at its worst... but ohh cute baby, boba feet doing stuff, slave 1 doing stuff, luke doing stuff.... this is the best star wars ever. The franchise is saved. Lets record my reactions so people can see my tears of absolute joy... god, are people that desperate for good star wars?
@@gwem1979 They are but can’t recognise shit even when it is served up to them because of Clappy Clappy moments
@@thekunninglinguist2397 even at my most hardcore star wars fan days i necer reacted like these people do. It makes me embarrassed to be in the same fandom
The ocean levels have risen three inches world wide. Some say it was climate change but the real cause was Eric Butts crying because he saw this episode.
And Anna and her blubbering like a child while watching this as well
...what's your point?
@@NobleRenegade7 They are Idiots! Not the Commenters. The stupid Crybabies that think this show is the best thing eva because it is filled to the brim with nostalgia and Fanservice.
@@ATRAYA - Times a ticking
Plot Twist: Grogu actually 'defeated' Gideon in a staring contest.
When the Womandalorian beats Mando, she doesn't get ownership of the edgesaber. Instead, she has to defeat the baby... who went off with Jake.
the whole thing made me think of the rules for the Elder Wand in Harry Potter. Except more stupid.
also let me tell you, being an upstanding male feminist myself, I gave a standing ovation when whats-her-tits was able to easily overpower Boba Fett in a brawl despite him having her tied up. I love watching men get their asses beat by women over and over again because it's so awesome and yass queen slay
*barf*
Last one who 100% won the Darksaber in the battle was Darth Maul. He then used it to fight Palpatine and lost. So at the end...the Darksaber belongs to Rey. Wonderful.
@@Сайтамен like every other lightsaber in the universe. Hers to keep and bury in the sand if she feels like it.
@@Phoenix0F8 “What’s her tits.” 😂
I know the EFAP crew doesn't care for clone wars, but in regards to the "dark saber" when it was introduced it was just a lightsaber from the old republic stolen during the Mandalorian wars. It wasn't that special, wasn't called a dark saber, and certainly wasn't needed to be held or won by Mandalorian rulers. In Clone Wars Mandalore had been a peaceful world for ages, so this whole idea of claiming this lightsaber through combat clearly wasn't a thing for that period of time and there is no mention of it being what it is in The Mandalorian. The only thing close to this idea of the ruler wielding the saber is when Maul challenged and defeated the saber's owner Pre Vizla and claimed the saber, but even then it's not because of the saber that Maul became leader, it was because he was the stronger warrior, Mandalorians respect strength, which is why when he defeated their best they joined him. But even then not all Mandalorians followed him, in fact his victory divided the Mandalorians, and these anti-Maul Mandos definitely didn't care that he held the saber. By the way Bo Katarn was the one to lead the Mandos against Maul so why she would think she has to win the saber to never be questioned as leader is beyond me. Also if this saber was that important it would have been in the royal palace in the Duchess' hands, which it wasn't. Also the dark saber only became important in Rebels and now this show. I find it funny how they've added all this importance to a weapon that was introduced as just an old stolen lightsaber.
Yep. It was actually the helmet that meant the most to mandalorians. Whoever held the helmet, claimed the title of Mandalore. In Knights of the Old Republic, Revan kills Mandalore, and hides his helmet from the clans after the war.
That's a lot better than what we got here.
Leave it to Disney to take good concepts and shit it out in the least interesting pathetically lazy ways
@@piti368 Yep...they scrap everything thst came before. The thrawn trilogy, which are the TRUE sequels, KOTOR 1 and 2, etc, and replace it with the sequel trash, and Mandalorian filler. WHY?? I was worried when I heard they were doing a Mandalorian series. Even the armor design isn't as cool as the Mandos in KOTOR.
Last one who 100% won the Darksaber in the battle was Darth Maul. He then used it to fight Palpatine and lost. So at the end...the Darksaber belongs to Rey. Wonderful.
'long period of time' its mentioned from the begining that Duchess satine was the first peaceful ruler of mandalore, and later (within the first mando arc) mentions she and kenobi fell in love during the mandolorian civil war. so less than a generation ago they were still warriors.
but otherwise yeah
Disney saw tlj defenders mention how the fandom menace wanted luke to kill the entire first order on his own, photoshopping lukes face on vader in the hallwayscene and decided "yep, they are right, this is what we should have done"
From one awful extreme to another.
They need to rename this series; The Panderlorian
*DUBSTEP TROOPERS*
“He’s shot at me, he hates ah me, he’s using me, fragility, I hate Spider-Man, he is my enemy!”
Probably the best aspect of the episode XD
It just occurred to me that Boba Fett left his sniper friend on the warship, but then they're together again in the Book of Boba trailer. Did he just like awkwardly turn around and come back to pick her up?
Huh, hadn't thought of that. I guess he did.
Wouldve loved the awkward conversation between luke n boba 😂😂
We don't know how much time has passed.
One thing the mandolorian showed me is how similar many anti sjw and sjw channels are when it comes to entertainment. Both desire to be pandered too. Sjw want progressive politics and anti sjw generally want nostalgic eye candy, and when they are pandered to they both become consoomers who defend badly written corporate garbage.
Politics turns everyone into freaking babies.
Anti SJWs and SJWs are the same thing now
@@raymondrmrz0244 Far from it
@@Rap-vj9io i think the op meant that most people who opposed the sjw shit only cares becaus it wasnt pandering to them. He probably didnt mean the anti-sjw "group?"
Yup yup yup
What a lovely Christmas present.
With Bill Burr it would have been perfect 💜
33:48 Hold up. "The Acolyte" show's supposed to be set in the High Republic era. How the hell will that fit into Crisis on Infinite Tatooines?
Time travel
to my absolutly limited knowledge. they got this place in the force wich connects all time and space in Rebels, the symbol of it is in the ashoka show.
So my guess is they will use this to make EVRYTHING work out.
Im pretty sure you can make yourself ready to see Raven fight Luke in the Second Deathstar in a couple of years.
it won't get a second season so there's no real point worrying about it
I can't unsee that stormtroopers put their hands down to break their fall after being shot. Happens all the time.
Why should they try if nobody else does.
Ahsoka Tano: I can sense pain and hatred in Baby Yoda, I will not train him.
Knowing that Luke Skywalker tried to kill his nephew does not bode well for the wee man.
I hope it's canon that Luke killed him, and also tried to kill his nephew.
Maybe Luke I mean Jake killed all of his students before he got to Kylo. Trying to silence the one with the bad dreams LOL
@@pyerack hahaha it's later discovered that there is a mass grave next to the temple where Luke had been disposing of all the bodies of the Jedi that had dark thoughts or dreams.
Kylo killed him.
I was wrong. Grogu is back with Mando.
Why does Bo care about the edge saber duel now when in clone wars her whole thing was she refused to follow Maul when he won the edge saber duel fair and square
Also, them shooting that unarmed pilot trooper who had his hands up legit made me mad
In a morally complex show, something like that would be a topic to explore; In this show, it's writing incompetence that just makes our "heroes" look like dicks
I can't believe this episode proves Grace Randolph right when she said that people would have liked the Last Jedi if they gave Luke a badass fight scene before he died.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
Not really, even with a fight scene, Luke's character was still utterly assassinated in that movie.
@@triphan7570 People have shown they dont care really. Nuance escapes most of them.
Maybe i'm just cynical bastards but i have evidence to validate my view.
Legit my observation as well. Fanboys are cringe especially geeks and gamers
It's actually so fucking pathetic it hurts my soul. This is actually more ... I don't know. Deflating, than the Sequels. Because we had legions behind us that knew the Sequels were trash. But this? This is TFA syndrome all over again. This let's Disney know just what sort of crap they can shovel to get the lemmings in line. Cool epic nostalgia. No brain cells required.
The darksaber combat thing is bullshit, Sabine handed Bo Katan the saber, there was no combat
But even with this rule, you give Gus the darksaber, you kneecap him, have Bo Katan kick him, you're done
@@Stephen64138 because the episode wanted some quick drama
@@Stephen64138 she was give the saber in rebels. In fact after I wrote this comment I saw the boys actually watched that bit from rebels in this very video. None of it makes sense, everything's retarded
"It's time to D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!"
@@Stephen64138 Ok late but have you watched the video? The dumb reason they came up with is that "It's not the way"
A step in the right direction for how Luke should be treated, but still so, *so* far
@@pyerack what do you mean, there’s no canon after episode 6
Yeah, as low as the bar is now, at least you can tell that these people actually like Star Wars. I'm just grateful for that much
It’s weird to see him acting so stoic and detached. He certainly did mature between ESB and RotJ, but he never lost that sense of warmth and talkativeness. I always liked that moment on Endor when Luke and co. meet the ewoks, and he has this big grin on his face because of the potential he sees in them despite looking like little teddy bear people. You’re telling me his eyes wouldn’t even light up just a little upon meeting a baby that looks just like Yoda?
RotJ kinda went out of its way to show that Luke _wasn’t_ like the Jedi of old, so it feels incredibly off to see him acting like a stereotypically stoic Jedi; saying very little and barely even cracking a smile. Just like it’s also incredibly hard for me to believe that he’d see that this child (apparently) has such a connection to Mando that he’d be okay with permanently separating them just like that with hardly any discussion. Could he not even be fucked to ask the kid’s name?
@@unpopularopinions7407 you’d think he’d have some questions, but nah. I was hoping he’d smile a bit and even have a bit of banter, but I feel like they’re almost over correcting from TLJ. The less he talks and shows any personality, the less chance they have of screwing Luke up.
@@unpopularopinions7407 This is just a small thing but I've never ever in the history of ever seen where it is written that stoic = can never have/show emotions. I don't understand why that's the interpretation hollywood seemingly always goes with.
Are Disney actually watching EFAP?
First we have Cara Dune dunk on "objective opinions" without it actually making sense in the conversation....and then we have Mando using a spear as a sword-like weapon.
Have we been compromised?
That would be kinda nice of them since it creates a living for this crew. And good videos for us.
I'm gonna say it...
I don't feel bad that Kylo kills Grogu
I was hoping something would eat him, but I guess that works too.
Mauler said it best regarding Slave I, and it applies to baby cashcow too.
Disney wouldn't DARE.
But at least now I know why he did it. He have seen The Mandalorian already.
@@asepsisaficionado7376 I know it's not gonna happen, but it'd be the greatest thing in the world if they just never acknowledge what happens to him. Meanwhile, we all know...
I heard there was a leak they are making a new trilogy all about Grogu and it will retcon the entire ST into Luke going into hiding to protect him.
I was low-key hoping every character in this show would die
Worry not
EVERYONE DIES
_Eventually_
like rogue one?
No one's ever really gone
Dude imagine Luke dying here to make TLJ irrelevant
do worry
NO ONE’S EVER REALLY GONE
eventually
This season was truly “Thank you Mando! But our Princess is in another castle”, the show
"they lock on after a million shots missed" | Mauler, haven't you played Fallout? That's how it works you get tired of trying to aim only to use VATS cause you just lose hope.
Can't relate. I just spam VATS all the time.
@@megashark1013 can relate
don't you start with VATS, so your AP can recover as the battle goes on? That's how I do it.
Alternatively, you keep up fire manually while your system locks on to try and put damage on them even if you miss most of your shots. No harm in trying with effectively infinite ammo.
Just a little note, Luke's gun jams when they are in the trash compactor after saving Leia and he is attacked by the thing in ep4. I never realized until rewatching last night.
Do you guys remember Cosmonaut saying that people only hated TLJ Luke because he didn't flip around destroying ATATs at the end? I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to think he has kind of a point.
He’s half right
I swear this will get so bad that EFAP will have to defend the sequels at some point
While it's a possibility that star wars fans wanted a monke brain neuron activation it's also possible strong emotional reactions are result of how he was treated in sequels.
plenty of people would of hated that too (like myself and i imagine Mauler)
It was more how he was portrayed in that movie than anything else, even if he did end up destroying AT-AT’s the audience would be mostly numb at that point because of all the ridiculous nonsense that was the rest of TLJ.
I REMEMBER LUKE SKYWALKER!!! HE FOUGHT VADER AND BLEW UP THE DEATH STAR!!! also tried to kill his sleeping nephew.....STAR WARS!!!
Luke being there at that exact moment is so lucky, it’s shit. The fact that the dark troopers provided the first stakes in the entire season and the got literally ejected out of the episode, then destroyed immediately when they came back is so stupid.
I'd say "at least Luke got more respect than the sequels gave him," but then I remembered how low that bar was.
Remember previously in the episode where blaster bolts did not work on the dark troopers. The first or second kill from Luke was him deflecting a blaster bolt back at one of them piercing its armor. Do the dark troopers have more powerful blasters and why would they have that?
Just to play devils advocate, why wouldn't they have stronger blasters? The same thing happens between B2 droids and Super Battle Droids; if there's a way to make a weapon better, it'll be done.
The real question should be: *why were they outfitted with blasters that can destroy their own armor/casing?* That is what doesn't make sense.
That could be answered: Simply because Jedi and deflecting blaster bolts hasn't been that much of a major issue, outside of a few outliers like Luke and Ashoka. Design-wise and financially, it wouldn't make sense to account for this. They were probably most likely already really expensive to manufacture.
I'll also add, but not knock EFAP for it since it's non-movie info: Stormtrooper armor isn't really meant to be protective at all, just imposing and that decision was intentional to cut costs... since troopers were extremely replaceable under the empire, and no major faction existed that couldn't be quelled by sheer numbers, protecting soldiers wasn't a priority to Palpatine, the Moffs, or anyone really. The armor itself was cheap, and only kind of capable of withstanding glancing shots from blaster bolts unreliably. Basically just an outfit or uniform.
The only thing they gain from the armor is reduced sight thanks to the small tinted visor, and Disney added that they have rebreathers... but only for gas.
Presumably to get through shit like blast doors, heavy armor, and the odd beskar, I would guess. And when the Empire has crazy-ass weaponry I tend to assume it's kyber crystal stuff because of how they swept the galaxy for it to make the Death Star work.
@@ouroboros5793 well stormtrooper armour did protect the wearer to sum degree but instead of trying to stop it like clone armour it's designed to disperse the energy, so the wearer is simply knocked over or fall unconscious
@@thescottishanimeguy9946 "The armor itself was cheap, and only kind of capable of withstanding glancing shots from blaster bolts unreliably"
Yes, this was mentioned but thank you; Having your troops knocked out, having their lungs collapse, or suffering major blunt trauma and internal bleeding from the force of a bolt is not ideal armor. Hence why I stated what it did do instead, albeit poorly.
@@ouroboros5793 I'm not really sure arguing stormie armor is garbage because it doesn't help against direct hits (silly fandom myths aside) from blasters is the wisest idea. Or....what, do you think, say, clone trooper, or FO trooper, or B2 armor, or so on and so forth, is particularly helpful against most rifles? Because if so, I'd recommend watching the movies (or TCW, or basically any piece of SW media) with a functioning brain.
btw, there's a scene in the hallway where Luke clearly gets shot. Like...two Darktroopers are firing at him and he swings his sword, but they keep firing while his guard is clearly down and they even animated the blaster sparks, but because the camera is behind Luke they just pretend he blocked something he clearly didn't.
Great choreography, Rian Jonson would be proud
Heh.
*Key jiggling intensifies.*
*happy Fanboy baby giggling*
funny cause ive never seen the clone wars cartoon or episode 4 yet i find this entertaining. you guys are expecting the godfather quality shit
Porkins should have saved everyone instead of Luke
@Isle OfDonSpuart No ones ever really gone (especially post filloni)
@Isle OfDonSpuart His x-wing blew up in a fiery explosion on the surface of the death star, which also exploded soon after. So with Disney's rules he still has 7 lives left.
@Isle OfDonSpuart There was some Porkins in the sequels...
*destroys all the dark troopers"
Mando: "should we help"
Porkins: "No I'm alright"
The disrespect for Boba in this episode for the sake of making the Clone Wars Mandos look cool is sickening.
Honestly though. This guy had the respect of fucking Darth Vader himself, or at least appeared to in ESB. How does someone like that lose to some rando Mando?
@@corruptangel6793 "Girl Power"
@@corruptangel6793 He didn't lose.
@@Сайтамен my mistake.
Still, for some random nobody to do that well and force Boba into a draw was a weird choice for the creators.
I didn’t even think about that. Why does she look 40, wearing makeup and Boba looks like a raisin? Is she not a fully grown adult when he was a kid?
Who else thought the efap crew put the dubstep in themselves before learning the sad truth
Better ending...
Luke walks in, takes off his hood, stares at mando and says "fight me".
Mandos dark saber extends with a woosh.
Black out.
Directed by M&M shamalamaman.
The dark troopers took longer to deploy than *tie fighters*
Let’s see if the empire can utterly fail as an enemy faction again. Surely not
Ming Na Wen literally dodges a blaster bolt like if it was the Matrix. They make it seem like if it was a badass stunt, it was just embarrassing and pathetic.
@@thereviewersblock7459 she does some pretty sweet and completely pointless combat rolls this episode
The Empire really needs to up their game in Disney Star Wars, they’re too much a joke at this point to be considered a threat.
Though they’re still better than TFO but that is a incredibly low bar.
Disney: "See? The Empire was incompetent. Just like Return of the Jedi! Remember that film! And THIS is why we need the First Order, to be a real threat once again!"
@@pyerack
FFS
I'd blocked that from my mind, thanks for returning it to the fore.
What a waste.
I love that when they land on the ship, the first two folk down the ramp are the two who DON'T have Besker Armour on.
Hang on! Where did Luke actually put Grogu on the X-Wing? Have you seen the interior of an X-Wing cockpit? There’s barely enough room for one person. It is the textbook definition of “utilitarian”. Grogu would have obstructed his view if he was on his lap. It would have made sense, in-universe, for Luke to have flown a two seater Y-Wing bomber in anticipation of getting an extra passenger. But, they gotta jingle those nostalgia keys so the fanboy tears flow.
"WHERE ARE MY Y-WINGS?!?" - Daenerys Skywalker Baggins
Grogu is small enough to fit there.
Clearly Luke put Grogu in the Droid slot on the back, duh!
@@pezdispencer113 R2 is there already.
@@Сайтамен that wasn't a serious response. Anything organic in that slot would die from exposure to space.
Stray observations:
Girl Power against Boba Fett, the dark Saber is the deathly hallow wand, Leia was quicker to return to the ship than the dark troopers, the big bad Gus doesn't kill a single character, If Gus knew everything Mando was plotting, why didn't he shoot the ship knowing that it was a ruse, Yoda blood creates Palpatine clones perhaps, Luke didn't actually save them because they weren't in danger. Mando armor is Saber proof yet is refined by intense flame, the dark trooper didn't remove Mandos helmet with his free hand.
After hearing the EFAP gang describe how the Mandalorian plot could have been done better I have come to realize that this show is basically a Disneyfied sci-fi version of Goblin Slayer. Ironically though the goblins are treated as an actual threat whereas stormtroopers are just walking dominoes.
The good guys can close blast doors but bad guys can't.
And Edge Troopers can not open the door they get deployed from.
Fucking whatever, right?
Grievous' droids had heads that were decoys.
In the old EU nobody tried to take a Star Destroyer, because it is impossible to do it without the sacrifice of hundreds of people. And here we have like, five people taking one?
But but they are elites and the bestest. They can take the big ship. Its cool i clapped
It’s not a SD, but an Arquitens light cruiser. 300-ish m long, crew of 100, 100 passengers capacity, still fucking retarded how easily it gets taken out.
@@93Avenger93 yes, but it's a crew of 100 imperial trained crew.... which in practical terms means about 2 total defenders...
So, why does "The Force Awakens" have a tied down Tie Fighter, but even this show didn't have that? So, Kara (Cara?) Dune is from Alderaan and she was with the rebellion, right? So, why doesn't she immediately recognize the guy who destroyed the Death Star? I mean he did have an award ceremony, yes? Mando, you didn't think to maybe tell Luke that they have Grogu's blood? Also, no one I've seen has brought this up, but with them taking Grogu's blood and having the clone doctor they are trying to fix Snoke's origins, right?
Man, that must've been awkward. Fett coming back to get Fennek.
Oof, that is an excellent point. Luke literally avenged Kara's entire planet.
@@lewispascoe1145 because apparently in the new canon Luke doesn't matter; Jyn does. No seriously, look it up.
I think what's worse than having all the old characters back. Is having them back but with their personality changed so they fall perfectly in line with what the main character needs. Boba is back and now he wants to help people, Bo Katan is back but she's now super nice and isn't a crazy terrorist hell bent on conquering Mandalore, Luke is here but only for a cameo and just is a strange get out of jail card for the main character, ashoka is here but now she's an emotionless jedi even though she was thrown out the order and thought the jedi order was wrong. Can they just have one character who isn't changed so plot can happen.
1:11:07 Why cant we have you guys write it? These brief descriptions are so much more exciting than the ACTUAL SHOW
It would’ve been very awkward if Luke saw Boba Fett
My family hates me now because I tell them Mando's writing is near Batwoman quality. Thanks Mauler for taking my feelings away.
Luke flew alone on a one man x-wing to pick up an unknown force user. What would have happened if he found a full grown kid and not a purse sized one? would he have had to ride with a kid he doesn't know sitting on his legs in a tight one man x-wing?
‘Sit on my lap kid and hold this joystick’ Luke Skywalker the #MEETO series
Imagine a bunch of Turbolasers had just blasted the X-Wing out of the sky... Luke is really good... but is he Rey/Poe levels of OP in an X-Wing?
Plus the Republic arriving would have given us hope, that they have something of a competence...