As someone who worked for a leather accessories designer, I'll go one further and explain that tumbled leather is typically poorer quality leather that they texture to mask the faults. The AJ1 Defiant Couture took so much heat for the stiff, smooth leather when in fact that was the finest quality shoe leather ever put on a Jordan. Look, I like tumbled leather too, but don't get it twisted, it's not better; quite the opposite.
@@campkira no, its not about qc, its supposed to match the sample of the 85 which has the same card, but instead of tongyang rubber company, they opt it using jrdn brnd rubber ent. co. ltd on the card
As a og at age 51 I remembered how the original Jordan 1 came out in 85 and these new high 85 cuts bring back alot of great memories. Was able to cop these along with the neutral greys and I love wearing them. Looking forward to getting the high 85 Georgetown's as well. Great video and review!😎👍
I see people online complaining about the leather quality of the '85s, but to me, it feels like the best Jordan 1 leather quality they've ever put out there (I don't own the New Beginnings pack nor any of the 1985 OGs). These '85 versions have sturdy, thick leather that you need to break-in to mold to your foot. The leather you would see on a nice Red Wing or Frye boot or a Schott leather jacket. I'm extremely grateful for my pair...
as an amateur leather quality checker, nike's tumbled leather is actually worse quality than this smooth leather making this some of the finesst leather ever put on aj1s
So glad they finally fixed the size of the swoosh. The things that bothered me most about the "newer" Jordan 1s are the curved collar and smaller swoosh.
@NonLegit Nation You're right, they're really is no difference. A few little things probably, but the size of the shoe is the same. JB bamboozled fools on these lol.
There is a difference. Although minor, the small details make them that much more genuine to the 85's. I love OG cuts for any model, over any new version. For example, the shape & cuts of XI's from 2007-2015. People were so brainwashed by the banana shape, low cut patent leather, wrong facing jumpman, that many still prefer it. Maybe people were still too young OR weren't into Jordans prior to 2003/2004.
Good thing you pointed out the dust bag not being color safe. The first thing I noticed when I received my pair yesterday. The tissue paper being wrapped around the shoes made complete sense after seeing the black dye stained on the white tissue paper and inside the box.
Guys, give it up wit the opinions and hate. Its over bruh; they flew, arguably the hottest drop of the weekend. Yea I'm not giving 600 up for em (or even over 3) but I'm def not gonna pretend to not like em; they are FIRE.
Lifesaver I actually had mines sitting in the dust bags. Thank you for telling me this. Your a mvp. If I would’ve found this out a couple of months down the line would’ve been so depressed. Thanks!!!!!!!!
This is a OG colorway, Jordan wore these in a few games as a PE. The leather is real genuine high quality leather and is better quality than any Jordan 1's released as those have soft tumbled cheap synthetic leather that's low quality. Real high grade Leather is supposed to be thick (Animal Skin) and requires to be broken in like a Clark boot.
It wasn’t easy to cop and I live in Chicago. Easy shoe I was able to cop during all star weekend in person were the Jordan 3 chi at a Nike store in the southside of Chicago
SlaZe_Beast I just hope they’re super limited on SNKRS. I got my pair from the Nike factory Chicago, and I don’t want to feel like they aren’t worth anything.
those 8.5s look like they fit you better than 9s. I go down a half size in all my 1s now, just a much better fit. These will work even better with a snug fit once that real leather breaks in imo
On the original jordan 1s front 85, they had the numbering for size. It also has a serial that I dont know what it's for, but the letters at the end are for the factory.
The toebox on the OG 1985 pairs varied from pair to pair based on the factory, but some of them came like this model! Eventually, they would bottom out with wear and the leather getting older and come to resemble the flatter, wider shape you see on the Retro Highs from 2015+
Lies no they wouldn’t if you saw the lines for these and most people that they were a GR until last minute announced they were limited. Even SNKRS went down from people trying to get them. Believe me they weren’t sitting at all in anywhere!
I like em, but there is 1 thing that bothers me and i saw this on the hotel-footage in Chicago (and i thought it must have been the lighting) and i can’t unsee it now...the swoosh is just a little brighter shade of red and that just annoys me way more than it should
What’s the most versatile CW of the AJ1 High? I’m will buy my first one and I really don’t know which to buy and here in Brazil, we don’t have all of the CWs (and they’re sooo expensive). I wanna know your thoughts and recommendations
I wish I got a pair on all star weekend cuz those are just too dope and I prefer the 85 cut to the mower ones for whatever reason they just look cleaner to me
Thanks Seth! I am glad I am not the only one in regards to the dust bag leaving marks on the shoe. I honestly thought I was losing it. But man tbh, they should have never put them with them because it honestly messes them up. Btw, what did you use to take the stain off? Much appreciate it and great review as always!
This new 85 hi original cut and materials are fucking incredible! I paid resell for these and I do not have buyers remorse. If and only if the 85 hi from the beginnings pack drops below a stack then I'll grab them also
I have this but the version in the back says ''Since'' 85, ( bought them at the nike outlets about 14 years ago ) color wise they are still great and they barely have scratches, the white rubber part at the bottom has some glue stains due to the soles that came off i just have to put the soles back together and try to clean the soles with some good solution for that but other than that they stil pretty wearable, i do want to sell them some day in the near future, do you have an idea of the ones i am talking about and if yes, for how much you think i can sell them for?
bruh Phoenix of course i will wear it.... im a reseller but resell money = personal sneaker or clothes money for me i have a separate checking acct and everything
i want these and the red and whites, but imma be patient i have a feeling they’ll both drop again...especially the red and whites if not that would be a super shitty on Nike’s behalf
Thanks for the insight on the dust bags! I got a pair last month in August from Nike Sneakrs App in Europe, when they had Sneakrs App day and restocked a bunch of sneakers. I got exclusive access to a pair of Jordan 1 85's and copped them. When they arrived I saw on the numbering on the dust bag was 29990/29999. So I think that the rumor you mentioned is true.
This shoe looks like bred version of chicago The white parts of the chicago except the mid sole colored black and the black swoosh on the chicago painted red and then there u go... You got the reversed bred PS: u can just say it's the black version of the air jordan 1 from the new beginnings pack
Is the 85 red box slightly bigger than the normal AJ1 box? I got some 85 b/w’s from GOAT and I’m trying to LC them. The box is bigger and I can’t find any information online 😭 idk if this is normal or fuegazie
I think the color way makes the shoe different from a standard Bred J1. This might be because Nike wanted them to be recognizable and not just blend in.
The dust bags dye bleeds on the shoes!?! The numbers were slapped onto the dustbag and not the shoe itslef!?! They aren't the og bred colorway? Who is running JB? The decisions and choices they make are baffling sometimes
Since any Jordan 1 high Chicago type color is around 6 to $700+ in my size why not go with the OG style that’s cheaper and came out this year with real leather especially when I was looking at the low cut reverse breds that dropped on Nike yesterday 🤷🏽♂️
I honestly think that these won’t drop again because if they plan on doing this again people might get angry that they did re-release this pair but not the other ones. The numbering is also for a reason so yeah. Just my personal thought about it
The way the laces sit on the shoe looks far better on the typical style 2016 breds. I cant stand the laces on the 85 pair. I didnt stop me spending loads of british pounds on resale tho. 😉
Yung Melon Shaun Bigley a grown ass 43 year old man with a good paying job, three kids, a house, 2 cars and OG Jordan’s from the 80s and 90s that shits on half of y’all’s collections. Still doesn’t mean I’m paying $700 for some hyped up sneaker cause I got better shit to do with my money. Stay poor younging, but enjoy the kicks.
As someone who worked for a leather accessories designer, I'll go one further and explain that tumbled leather is typically poorer quality leather that they texture to mask the faults. The AJ1 Defiant Couture took so much heat for the stiff, smooth leather when in fact that was the finest quality shoe leather ever put on a Jordan. Look, I like tumbled leather too, but don't get it twisted, it's not better; quite the opposite.
Still doesn’t change the fact that JB just slapped a big red rectangle on the Jordan 1. Like why?
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@@16soccerballthats what makes them 🔥
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The sticker on the insole looks like a Monopoly property card.
all limited shoe from nike trend to come with it.... it was pretty much straight from factory.... mean shitty QC....
@@campkira no, its not about qc, its supposed to match the sample of the 85 which has the same card, but instead of tongyang rubber company, they opt it using jrdn brnd rubber ent. co. ltd on the card
Bro, looks like a Boardwalk or Park Place card.....so quality's there
It's the same tag that Sample Pairs come with.
The only thing that bothers me is that they either could’ve just done Breds or Chicago’s but instead they made something worse than both
Lol it's something new. Knowing JB, they will do 85 version of those shoes in the future
well they don't want to keep made the same shoe... but don't want to made change to production...
@@campkira i mean that's what jordan brand is all about tho
dumb comment,this is a OG colorway that got released for the first time you lil unknowing hypebeast
Devil Six6Six then it’s not an og colorway ?
As a og at age 51 I remembered how the original Jordan 1 came out in 85 and these new high 85 cuts bring back alot of great memories. Was able to cop these along with the neutral greys and I love wearing them. Looking forward to getting the high 85 Georgetown's as well. Great video and review!😎👍
I see people online complaining about the leather quality of the '85s, but to me, it feels like the best Jordan 1 leather quality they've ever put out there (I don't own the New Beginnings pack nor any of the 1985 OGs). These '85 versions have sturdy, thick leather that you need to break-in to mold to your foot. The leather you would see on a nice Red Wing or Frye boot or a Schott leather jacket. I'm extremely grateful for my pair...
everyone calling these materials trash but don’t realize that og jordan 1s had genuine leather that broke in over time 😂
I’m embarrassed to admit I was one of those people 🤦🏻♂️
'genuine leather' is actually the crappiest real leather
@@xxxod pretty sure he meant genuine as a way to say that its legit leather. These new 85 retros actually use full grain leather.
@@xxxod he meant full grain
as an amateur leather quality checker, nike's tumbled leather is actually worse quality than this smooth leather making this some of the finesst leather ever put on aj1s
i feel like im not oldhead enough to appreciate these
I’m 50..me neither.
So glad they finally fixed the size of the swoosh. The things that bothered me most about the "newer" Jordan 1s are the curved collar and smaller swoosh.
Personally I prefer the new cut, but it's awesome that they decided to release a more classic silhouette, some people are really into that.
NonLegit Nation nah the swoosh is alot bigger on the 85s and the 85s are skinnier
@NonLegit Nation You're right, they're really is no difference. A few little things probably, but the size of the shoe is the same. JB bamboozled fools on these lol.
There is a difference. Although minor, the small details make them that much more genuine to the 85's. I love OG cuts for any model, over any new version. For example, the shape & cuts of XI's from 2007-2015. People were so brainwashed by the banana shape, low cut patent leather, wrong facing jumpman, that many still prefer it. Maybe people were still too young OR weren't into Jordans prior to 2003/2004.
Good thing you pointed out the dust bag not being color safe. The first thing I noticed when I received my pair yesterday. The tissue paper being wrapped around the shoes made complete sense after seeing the black dye stained on the white tissue paper and inside the box.
Guys, give it up wit the opinions and hate. Its over bruh; they flew, arguably the hottest drop of the weekend. Yea I'm not giving 600 up for em (or even over 3) but I'm def not gonna pretend to not like em; they are FIRE.
Lifesaver I actually had mines sitting in the dust bags. Thank you for telling me this. Your a mvp.
If I would’ve found this out a couple of months down the line would’ve been so depressed. Thanks!!!!!!!!
This is a OG colorway, Jordan wore these in a few games as a PE. The leather is real genuine high quality leather and is better quality than any Jordan 1's released as those have soft tumbled cheap synthetic leather that's low quality. Real high grade Leather is supposed to be thick (Animal Skin) and requires to be broken in like a Clark boot.
wish i could've gone to chicago and gotten those, but in only thirteen tho. :(
The pain is tru
then buy the fake version duh
It wasn’t easy to cop and I live in Chicago. Easy shoe I was able to cop during all star weekend in person were the Jordan 3 chi at a Nike store in the southside of Chicago
Why are they dropping the Chi 3s on SNKRS. I thought they were supposed to be Chicago exclusive.
Money. It's all about money
yeah i just saw that and now i have to try......
The_Big_Niz the ones that say Chi are coming out on the 22nd on SNKRS
They probably didn’t sell in Chicago so they selling those on the app lol
SlaZe_Beast I just hope they’re super limited on SNKRS. I got my pair from the Nike factory Chicago, and I don’t want to feel like they aren’t worth anything.
Good looking out on letting us know the dustbag marks up the midsole. I didn't know that.
Everytime he pulls out the needs I'm just like damn that's a nice shoe
those 8.5s look like they fit you better than 9s. I go down a half size in all my 1s now, just a much better fit. These will work even better with a snug fit once that real leather breaks in imo
On the original jordan 1s front 85, they had the numbering for size. It also has a serial that I dont know what it's for, but the letters at the end are for the factory.
The number inside is the production date 191027 (10/27/2019)
I’m going to throw some all white af1s in the dust bag for while to test the dye theory
Think toe box looks different on the 85s
The toebox on the OG 1985 pairs varied from pair to pair based on the factory, but some of them came like this model! Eventually, they would bottom out with wear and the leather getting older and come to resemble the flatter, wider shape you see on the Retro Highs from 2015+
I felt like I was tripping but thankfully I'm not the only one who noticed
What will hold their value more , the 85 varsity reds or off white 5s ?
Just brought a pair off StockX add to my collection good video bro 👍🏿
Seth, you always looking good!
Finally, an educated review 🙏🏽
What’s more trusted app to buy them? Goat or stock x
Is it just the color blocking or is the swoosh in the 85 bigger than the recent breds??
Which one is more comfortable out of the breds and the 85 varsity red ?
The numbers on the side of the Jordans is the date for the production 19 is the year 10 is the month and 27 is the day
thats why it comes wrap with the paper inside the dustbag.
If this colorblocking were general releases, these will probably be sitting on shelves.
This is literally the chicago colorblocking lol
Ehhh idk I mean they did general release with the infrared 6, bred 4, and concord 11 and they couldn't make enough of them. They flew off the shelves.
super saiyan rose yes it would this shit terrible
Levi Johnson what does that have to do with a garbage colorway of a Jordan 1?
Lies no they wouldn’t if you saw the lines for these and most people that they were a GR until last minute announced they were limited. Even SNKRS went down from people trying to get them. Believe me they weren’t sitting at all in anywhere!
did anyone notice that the swoosh has a different shade of red?
Got my pair for retail on this years SNKRS anniversary, hopefully my pair is numbered too😬
Man I hope your right about them having a wider release later as I really want these
Would the numbers on the interior be the manufacture date such as: 27th of October 2019?
Have you tried with the black laces? Which laces do you like 👍 or suggest?
200$ for 2 Premium limited number dust bags that rub off the 2 unnumbered unlimited sneakers inside is to much for me.
Compare the toe box of the 85s to others
Love the bred one, also love your lot worn breds, they're dope.
Do these run true to size because they look bigger then the standard Air Jordan 1
Thanks for the review Seth. Looking forward to you thrashing the shoes to find out how the leather holds up :-D
Hey Seth - Big fan. Can I buy your 8.5s? They're my size and I wanna rock these weekly.
these are dope! Had to wait a couple years for the price to drop but finally copped
About to be a little whack and spend 630 on a pair in size 10
Is jordan brand going to release chicagos or breds in this cut or not?? Royals would be dope too but i think thats askin too much
Tryna decide between these or the Lifestle QNTM bruhhhhhh
random question, is the Jordan 1 85 BOX, larger than the normal Jordan 1 box (same size shoe obviously)?
you right Seth we getting it here in Asia set for tomorrow 24th October
I like em, but there is 1 thing that bothers me and i saw this on the hotel-footage in Chicago (and i thought it must have been the lighting) and i can’t unsee it now...the swoosh is just a little brighter shade of red and that just annoys me way more than it should
What’s the most versatile CW of the AJ1 High? I’m will buy my first one and I really don’t know which to buy and here in Brazil, we don’t have all of the CWs (and they’re sooo expensive). I wanna know your thoughts and recommendations
Aj 1 shadows...cant go wrong with grey and black
insert name thanks dude!
@@rafadrauz no problem!
All points agreed with. Great video!
I wish I got a pair on all star weekend cuz those are just too dope and I prefer the 85 cut to the mower ones for whatever reason they just look cleaner to me
Thanks Seth! I am glad I am not the only one in regards to the dust bag leaving marks on the shoe. I honestly thought I was losing it. But man tbh, they should have never put them with them because it honestly messes them up. Btw, what did you use to take the stain off? Much appreciate it and great review as always!
This shoe hurts my brain everytime i look at it
Congratulations on 600 thousand subs Seth!
So are all the new AJ1s that release going to be in the ‘85 cut or will they continue to look like the newer cut?
Achieve Lem0n this is a separate to the rest of this years jordan 1 releases they will probably drop another high 85 next year or end of the year
Try Barton straps for your watch,they're comfortable.
are the breds size 8.5 also?
This new 85 hi original cut and materials are fucking incredible! I paid resell for these and I do not have buyers remorse. If and only if the 85 hi from the beginnings pack drops below a stack then I'll grab them also
I have this but the version in the back says ''Since'' 85, ( bought them at the nike outlets about 14 years ago ) color wise they are still great and they barely have scratches, the white rubber part at the bottom has some glue stains due to the soles that came off i just have to put the soles back together and try to clean the soles with some good solution for that but other than that they stil pretty wearable, i do want to sell them some day in the near future, do you have an idea of the ones i am talking about and if yes, for how much you think i can sell them for?
GOD DAMN RESELLERS MAN
bruh Phoenix i apologize but i admit i sold them and then proceeded to pay resale on 2018 off-white prestos
@@ummyea3682 I understand if your selling a shoe and buying a new but please tell me your actually going to wear it and not use it for more cash
bruh Phoenix of course i will wear it.... im a reseller but resell money = personal sneaker or clothes money for me i have a separate checking acct and everything
@@ummyea3682 alright
umm yea same bro I sell w’s to buy all my L’s
i want these and the red and whites, but imma be patient i have a feeling they’ll both drop again...especially the red and whites if not that would be a super shitty on Nike’s behalf
I think the colorway was from the jordan 1 high strap
Ur right the white lace swap on these is 🔥🔥
Is it or does the unc and storm blue retros have a similar cut?????
Thanks for the insight on the dust bags! I got a pair last month in August from Nike Sneakrs App in Europe, when they had Sneakrs App day and restocked a bunch of sneakers. I got exclusive access to a pair of Jordan 1 85's and copped them. When they arrived I saw on the numbering on the dust bag was 29990/29999. So I think that the rumor you mentioned is true.
I feel like the numbering on the dustbag was something they would have done in 1985. I could be wrong though
Thanks for the dust bag tip
just ordered a pair, hyped
Definitely copping a pair. Congrats on 600K Subscribers! 🎊🎊🎊
I hope you're right and they will re release again later this year.
Always liked watching your vids
I hope the made more and will release again. The sneaker that got me into sneakers was the Jordan 1 mid fire red, and the remind me off them
I desperately need a pair. Love em
yeah, i put my FOG Basketball cotton white/sail laces on the 85 and looked much better
This shoe looks like bred version of chicago
The white parts of the chicago except the mid sole colored black and the black swoosh on the chicago painted red and then there u go... You got the reversed bred
PS: u can just say it's the black version of the air jordan 1 from the new beginnings pack
Not a fan of how high the leather around the toe goes.
Legit review. Thanks
Is the 85 red box slightly bigger than the normal AJ1 box? I got some 85 b/w’s from GOAT and I’m trying to LC them. The box is bigger and I can’t find any information online 😭 idk if this is normal or fuegazie
I think the color way makes the shoe different from a standard Bred J1. This might be because Nike wanted them to be recognizable and not just blend in.
The dust bags dye bleeds on the shoes!?! The numbers were slapped onto the dustbag and not the shoe itslef!?! They aren't the og bred colorway? Who is running JB? The decisions and choices they make are baffling sometimes
Didn't manage to get it when it dropped and now resale is too expensive for me.. Booo
If I had my Headstarts I would have won it. Still salty🤧
yeah.... i just lose interest.... g
This cost at a resale value of $1k here in the Philippines, 😭
Since any Jordan 1 high Chicago type color is around 6 to $700+ in my size why not go with the OG style that’s cheaper and came out this year with real leather especially when I was looking at the low cut reverse breds that dropped on Nike yesterday 🤷🏽♂️
What is with that Black stich on top of the swoosh??
Black laces please.
What are the flaps where the eyelets start called?
I honestly think that these won’t drop again because if they plan on doing this again people might get angry that they did re-release this pair but not the other ones. The numbering is also for a reason so yeah. Just my personal thought about it
How about comparuson with homage is the tongue the same
The way the laces sit on the shoe looks far better on the typical style 2016 breds. I cant stand the laces on the 85 pair. I didnt stop me spending loads of british pounds on resale tho. 😉
do the off white jordan 5's next
NEED these in a 10.5, but can't see myself paying these resell prices
Shaun Bigley poor
Yung Melon Shaun Bigley a grown ass 43 year old man with a good paying job, three kids, a house, 2 cars and OG Jordan’s from the 80s and 90s that shits on half of y’all’s collections. Still doesn’t mean I’m paying $700 for some hyped up sneaker cause I got better shit to do with my money. Stay poor younging, but enjoy the kicks.
Basically the value of anything is entirely up to your perception. Hate them or love them, Nike is a marketing genius.
Hey theyre re-releasing this colourway during nike energy week! Rumours were real
Are you fr??? Can you send me proof on my Instagram @CruzRva
Waiting for the air ships :D
Reminds me of a black pair of Chicago’s
the numbers inscribed in the shoes should be the manufacturing date
In my opinion the best Jordan 1 that released Allstar weekend was the Womens UNC to Chicago's
Don't get me wrong tho... these are dope too
I agree. That's why I got 6 of them. All size 12w
@@usmc4lifetkd956 I'm thinking of grabbing a couple more pairs myself while the cheap. I'm stunned at the prices
they have crazy soft leather as well
@@jaydee9005 💯