Are You Growing Toxic Food in the Wrong Kind of Plastic Containers?
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- Plastic containers release toxic chemicals. Learn to use the right ones and grow safe food.
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The concern also is the consumption of the micro and nano plastics that break down, being out in the sun and weather. We drink an astonishing amount just from the tap & water bottles, and I was reading that some people have a really difficult time eliminating (through urine or feces) these plastics, accumulating in the body.
Thank you for this information and giving me peace of mind. I have a traditional garden but have been using plastic totes and 5 gallon buckets for the last couple years to get more food. ❤
It’s the accumulative effect of all the plastics used today that cause health problems. It makes sense to me to be aware and informed and CUT DOWN on the use of plastic whenever possible, in the garden, kitchen and wherever we are.
Very important discussion. Unfortunately it's an extremely complicated subject. Best to avoid as much plastic as possible in my opinion. But also nearly impossible to completely avoid.
@miss_pancakeWell, nothing affordable, anyway
Now I'm wondering about all the fabric (polyester I believe) grow bags I've purchased.... 🤔
Probably just shedding microplastic into your soil and plants pick it up.
Unfortunately…polyester IS plastic (ie fabric made of plastic, specifically poly-ester).
@@debras3806
Perhaps you can line it first with paperor cardboard
@@sherrieflynn252Paper won't stop the water soluble leachates from reaching your plants.
There are some burlap bags available
If you use Home Depot or Lowe’s buckets, you’re courting trouble.Make friends with your local baker or grocery store. By law icings and fillings come in 5 gallon buckets that are FOOD SAFE. They throw out hundreds in any given year. Ask them to save some for you.
Exactly what I do! Donut shop, though. 😉
I’m more scared of what’s in Wendy’s chili lol
It's Wendy. Wendy is in the chilli.
😂now let’s talk about CA65 warning⚠️ or drinking coffee causes cancer
I use fabric growing bags. They're cheaper too. They can be used as liners in pots too.
So if your water supply is running through PVC before watering your food crops, then you are contaminating with your water supply
All my pots and re-purposed buckets are 5 or 2. Thanks for providing this info for me to check 👍
What makes one #2 HDPE plastic bucket food safe & another not food safe (even though both are #2 HDPE) is the dye used in the plastic & the type of HDPE (only virgin #2 HDPE is food safe). All reasonably priced buckets (Home Depot/Lowes/Menards buckets) aren't food safe due to not being made with virgin HDPE. Virgin HDPE costs more & they must be manufactured using segregated machinery (bucket manufacturers that make food safe buckets also usually make non-food safe buckets so they have to have different machinery just for the food safe buckets), which is why food safe buckets cost 2-3x more than non-food safe buckets. Food safe dyes also cost more so eliminating the dye and only making white food safe buckets helps keep the cost down, which is why it's rare to see a colored food safe bucket, though they do exist.
Thank you for the information. 🙏No wonder all the common food safe buckets (for sauce, fruit fillings, ice cream, yogurt, etc) are white!
Food safe or not, I don't want any white plastic buckets on my property. A year in the sun and they get brittle and break. If one gets lost in the weeds for a couple of years and it breaks into thousands of little pieces. Only black plastic for me.
@@kmc6506 Yup, black plastic always holds up best to the elements. I have seen food safe black buckets, but only online from places like US Plastics (I think) and after shipping it's way too much. Hell, all their buckets are way to expensive after shipping, not just the food safe ones.
@@jlseagull2.060 Right, there's no point in increasing the cost of a product unless a company strictly requires a specific color for branding, easy identification or whatever other purpose. I know I certainly don't want to pay more for food just because it was shipped to market in a colored bucket lol.
Good info. What about PP?
I had not thought about my plastic planters as a source of food pollution. Thanks for thoroughly educating me about this. The followup question is how safe is terra cotta and ceramic?
Ceramics, generally, will be the safest route one can go. Exceptions would be pieces that have a glazed finish. There are some nations that still use lead in their glazed ceramics. Usually red.
Honestly, I worked in ceramics for a few years. And, the chemicals used to make glazes... It makes me shudder, still. And, that was in the U.S.A.
Best,
JJ
@@JJLom777 Ceramics can contain toxic chemicals too tho
Recycled plastic is the biggest concern as they're not stable. They break down when exposed to sun, heat and moisture. Biodegradable plastic doesn't disappear. It disintegrates into smaller components e.g.microplastics. They're terrible for the environment.
you dismiss everything other than pthalates and bpa- s(kinda).... also, 1/2 life data is a poor system for judging persistence
I use plastic to grow my food and i also use use grow bags as well. I would still rather grow and eat my food from my own garden than eating produce ftom grocery store that is more harmful than how you grow your own food at home. I think everything is toxic for humans but to a certain extent. But you do try to do what is best and safer for you. I also think there are companys out there who try to scare gardeners and say all these plastic you use to grow food on is bad for you blah blah blah cus they want you to spend your money on actual real gardening supplies. Its all how they do business. Nowadays gardening supplies are so over the top expensive and nobody has money for it at all. Its ridiculous how much the price has gotten. So i make my own trellis from my tree branches instead of buying one cus sometimes theyre like 5 to 10 dollars per one at the store. I use lowes blue buckets to grow my food bcus theyre less than 5 dollars to buy. It cost 15 dollars to more to buy atleast 1 container pot at the store and buying one isnt enough. Gardeners will do anything to find what is cheaper to buy for their garden. You do the best you can.
Scare tactics so is called. In the past, they were in the newspapers and in the tv commercials locally. Now they are everywhere worldwide on all kinds of social media.
BTW, I got lots of good quality free gardening tools when people were able to throw away stuff they no longer liked. After the pandemic, however, there has been very few good free stuff yet the competition to get free items is becoming extremely sharp.
I want to know about the white pvc pipes used for irrigation. Is the water coming out of those pipes (buried in the ground) polluting my edible garden? Please do a video on effects of automated watering through drip irrigation...starting with pvc pipes. Even the glues used to connect all the joints is toxic. Does the cool underground soil prevent pvc from leaching into water as it flows through? How much toxicity ends up in the vegetable or fruit, is it all absorbed by the roots and foliage? What about root crops? Everything we eat thats been grown using irrigation has been exposed to a lot of plastic. This worries me.
PVS is very toxic material, but we are having it for entire house water supply, what can we do ? 😢
I just bought a half dozen large planters from the dollar tree to use for tomatoes and peppers. I just checked and there is no number on them anywhere. I'm wondering now if they are safe to grow food. 🤔
Better not using them, maybe all made with recycled plastic which is worst! 😮
I always came to the same conclusion studying this. Just about all containers you can find that are suitable to grow in whether it’s intended for growing or not, are made with the types of plastic that are not of concern. There’s bigger concern for other things that people do daily without realizing what we are exposed to.
I got some used Pickle Barrels (plastic) to make planters for eggplant, peppers, etc. Very useful.
My personal favorite plastic containers to reuse are peroxide and rubbing alcohol bottles. They’re a #2, sturdy, they’re square (which I prefer to round), and they’re the perfect size for rooting cuttings.
I use yogurt containers, too.
I appreciate that most of your "scare-mongering question" titled videos are conclusively answered with, "generally, no," with lots of solid supporting evidence. In this case, I use both large plastic nursery pots (#5 Polypropylene) for certain vegetables, and pressure treated lumber borders on my beds for everything else. In my humble, only moderately informed opinion, the benefits of eating more fresh fruits and vegetables far outweigh any slim health concerns from the containers they are grown in. Thank you.
The ones I use in my garden are very old, so if there was anything, it has leached out long ago.
You are idiotic
I'd rather worry about the pressure treated lumber than the plastic leaching. I work in the water treatment industry for municipal water systems and plastics are not as prevalent as people would have you believe.
I root strawberry runners in empty water bottles, set up to wick from 2-liter soft drink bottles - both contained ‘food’, When they deteriorate, they go in the recycle bin.
Now do tires. I'd like to see that one put to bed.
Interesting presentation. What about treated wood on raised beds?👍👍
Unless you're using CCA treated wood which hasn't been sold in the US since 2004, it's not a significant concern or risk to crops grown in proximity to pressure-treated wood.
Cement blocks.
you have to understand one more concept...... cumulative effect
As plastics decay in the environment they imitate hormones.
Also almost all plastics are not recycled at all.
George Carlin covered this subject the best.
What about all the chemtrails and toxins rain down from the sky!
Dihydrogen monoxide from jet exhaust is found in almost 100% of global precipitation.
@@teebob21 😂
@@teebob21over 4,500 people die every year from dihydrogen monoxide inhalation in the US. It's very dangerous stuff. Have you seen what it does to metal if you leave metal in it? Just imagine what it does to plants or the inside of our bodies or to plants.
This guy is the best
Very thorough explanation. Thank you!
Next up how much PFAS are in the fertilizers you're using to grow food.
That's actually a good idea.👍
Try save some bottled water for 3 years and then taste it.
Ah, what a lovely, toxic, planet we live on now!
I find that untreated wood containers are the best for gardening and they usually outlast plastic too.
Its like people saying go ahead and use treated lumber for garden beds
We are screwed no matter what we do.
Ty so much, very helpful video! Can you provide refs? I'm really concerned about this. I mostly grow flowers, but I want to get into veggies.
I heard a statistic that people inhale and therefore eat something like a credit cards worth of microplastics per month. Whether thats accurate or not it seems almost pointless to worry your dirt is touching pvc.
Jre strikes again lol. Turned out not in a letter episode when they actually looked into it.
what about plastic pots black, one gallon size, made for growing?
The thing is, I am hoping my compost will contain enough nutrients to counteract anything the evil plastics will leech into my plants.
Imagine everyone with a plastic compost bin exploding right now!
Thank you so much for the info❤
OH MY 😳
Can plastics create vapors when exposed to sunlight and heat all day.
Good information.
Very informative thanks
WORSE! In the UK almost all potting compost contains recycled waste including micro-plastics!
I’m building new beds this year, and going to use a pool liner as my smothering medium. I believe it’s vinyl. Likely planting it out next year. Any concerns? It’s nice and heavy and black. Thinking it will work amazing! I’ll uncover it and let it off gas over the winter.
My big concern would be if the pool liner would break down from UV exposure and leave a bunch of microplastics behind. Since it's designed to be in the sun I'd think you'd be fine?
@@ThePositron2 I doubt it, unless it was a loooong period of time. I’m thinking soaking the area first, and throughout the smothering will promote germination of any seeds too. I’m going to start of some flower beds likely this weekend. Pool liners above the water line take a beating from the sun and remain intact and mostly flexible! This liner was headed for the heap and now going to become the “go to” in bed construction!!!
Bloem plastic planters made in USA dont even have markings on them so i dont even know what kind of plastic it is. Wild. Just gonna grow flowers in them i guess.
what about strawberries in vynal type gutters very shallow and roots probbably touching plastic at all times .
Hooray, someone whom finally talks about what I have been wondering for decades.
yup!
I remember one of the first hydroponic systems I assembled at home.
I decided to go cheap and used a regular garden hose to recirculate water.
Big mistake as the hose leached some chemicals into the water that completely ruined all the plants.
Problem was fixed by switching to silicon hoses, but not before more than a year of headaches and ghost hunting trying to figure out what the problem was.
I looked at everything from water composition, temperature, fertilizers, pH, light, ventilation, humidity, bought all kinds of equipment to control everything, and
as always the problem was in the last place I looked.
I just replaced all my hoses with Water Right hoses. Least toxic hoses I could find. Lead and BPA free
thats real science though.
@@musictech85 I did too! Love their products. They will soon offer a non-toxic watering nozzle. Every nozzle on the market has something toxic in it.
Most pots are plastic
Where does the antimony come from?
Surely, it is not an ingredient of PET. Is it a catayst used in its manufacture? If so, the quantity should be minuscule, rt?
AFAIK it's a flame retardant, usually included in PVC
I quit using deoderant years ago. Instead, I have a rollon salt stick that I moisten before use. It does not prevent perspiration, but it does prevent odor. I've been using it for over 20 years after a friend who had breadt cancer told me about it.
Interesting. 🤔
Nice video!❤
In Australia it is not allowed in plastic containers a nymore😊
No I ment food containers in takeaway foods and plastic utensils even straws in Australia .
There’s still plastic bottles for detergents, milk etc
Use hemp plasic.
The plastics in organic fertilizer, seeds, soil ammendments, tools, watering cans, wheel barrows, garden carts, paint, glue, tape? The list is long
There's too much plastic.
We need more plastic to make food great again.
I grow my tomatoes in pots. Are there any pots that are safe? And if they are deemed a 6 not food safe, why are we growing food in them?! I may just transfer to the ground after hearing this. 😬
Use terra cotta pots
Plastic containers have a symbol on the bottom in a triangle. A 1to 5 is considered food safe.
Be careful! Lead and arsenic are found in soil!
@@joanies6778 excluding number 3, as per this video
Then you will need to the examine the ground soil. Don’t know where you live, here in CA new houses are built on former dump sites (auto wreck sites, swamps for industrial dumps, former military or navy bases, etc.) due to land scarcity in certain cities. These houses are expensive, mind you. New homeowners are the younger generation that have no idea of the city’s past (of those scary dump sites).
Sure by CA regulation these sites need to be cleaned up before constructions start. Well…I am not that optimistic as we don’t really know the long term impact of harmful and toxic chemicals even though we humans try to clean up the mess.