Piper Comanche 250 - Our First Time Flying for Lunch!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Join us as we take our first adventure in our Piper Comanche to Chico, CA for our first "$100 hamburgers". We had a surprise at engine startup as we saw another plane encounter a landing gear collapse on landing right in front of us.
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I am a private pilot sharing my adventures with you. Please do not use this video as flight training as I am not a certified flight instructor and most procedures have been cut for entertainment purposes*
Loved it... Thanks!! 😃
Thank you John! Really appreciate it!
"no more rwy remaining, gear up" I liked that. Great family video! congrats and thanks for sharing.
Thanks Mach. While the Comanche’s gear is fairly quick, I prefer to leave the gear down until I don’t have anymore usable runway in case of an emergency and can make it back down
@itp5x5 Something that is great to practice regardless if you have wheels welded or not. Will make transitioning into complex airplanes a lot easier if its already part of your flow.
My Father owned a Comanche 250 for the better part of my life growing up 5143P Dads 89 now and lost his medical a few years back and sold 43P ( think its teach complex aircraft now somewhere out west ) I cant begin to tell you the memories you are going to create for your son, my fondest of my dad are all when I was sitting in the right seat. I still fly today because of Dad.
I love hearing stories like this Mike! I’m the first in my family to fly and I hope I can pass that on to my son as he gets older. I can only imagine all the memories you have with your dad! Thanks for sharing!
A great example of a pilot exercising professional skills. Well done! And love your plane. Keep it up and congrats on really livin the dream with a flying family!!
Thank you very much!!!
Awesome video, thank you for sharing this with us! Great landings, both of them as well. Comanches are one of my favorite aircraft ever, and I'm very happy to see one being treated right! Blue skies and fair weather!
Thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Awesome video! Glad I found your channel! Fly well brother.
Thank you Russ! Really enjoy your videos as well
Happy to hear your feedback on what I can do better, any video ideas you would like to see, etc. Just getting started documenting more of my flights!
Good video and your little lady is a doll! My boy is 2 and equally adorable man.
Thank you so much!
Congrats on the purchase! Y'all look like a happy family. Wife is a good mom!
Thank you Christopher!
When your son was in the front and said hi to you it got me in the feels. What an awesome experience for him. Happy Holidays
Thank you so much Andrew! He can’t get enough of the plane and the airport! Happy holidays!
Nice Family -and nice plane. Looks like you will soon be sharing flight time with your son. Enjoy the plane.
Thank you James! That will be the dream to share flights with my son as he gets older. He absolutely loves the airplane and going to the airport right now. Hoping that passion doesn’t fade for him
That little guy is a cutie. Nice job on the flying... love the Comanche.
Thank you Gordan. He can't get enough! We take him to the airport at least once a week so he can wave to the passing airplanes.
Great video and I enjoyed the music overly, just enough at the right times. Thank you.
Thank you very much Ed!
Thanks for video! My home base is Chico! Easy stroll to Foodies. Beautiful Comanche
The food was fantastic! Thank you
You Bought a GREAT airplane I own N1XA a Comanche is a perfect family plane, great video I also own a Cherokee6 as well but the Comanche is my FAV!!! GREAT communication "my pet peeve " of pilots LOL
Thank you Sam. We heavily looked at the Cherokee 6 as well. That is a great airplane too. It means a lot to me that you said great communication. That is something that I have been working on a lot. Being based in the Bay Area, the radios are always busy and keeps me on my toes.
You sound great on the radio. Nice and concise and clear.
Thank you Justin! Really appreciate that as this is one of the areas I feared most while getting my private back in 2012. Definitely an advantage of getting my private in the busy Bay Area airspace.
What a dream, thanks for sharing bro'! Little one in the back enjoying..lke born with the genes!
Thank you Noel! Glad you enjoyed the video!
New Subscriber! Love the family so sweet. Beautiful plane!
Thank you Johnny! Glad you are enjoying the videos
Good content, great editing and great camera angles. Beautiful family. Just subscribed can’t wait for more vids.
Thank you very much Anthony! I have a few videos in the works. Not as fast as editing yet.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A PRODUCT OF SHARING YOUR PASSION WITH THE FAMILY, I WISH YOU MUCH SUCCESS
Thank you Carlos! Appreciate the comment and the thoughts.
Love the sound of that 250 engine 🦁 roar!
Can’t get enough of it!
My goodness, every voice in this video is pleasant.
Living my dream! I hope someday me and my family can have adventures in our own Comanche!
The Comanche 250 is a wonderful airplane. When you are ready to buy, make sure to get a prebuy done by someone that knows Comanches and include a thorough logbook review. It will save you thousands
Nice family, nice plane, nice day trip. Very nice to see someone from the bay area. Brings back memories. Hello from the Midwest.
Thank you very much! Did you used to live in the Bay Area?
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan . Yes Sir. 30 years in the bay area (North San Jose close to Milpitas). Kids still live there. Miss flying and fishing there. Beautiful coast. Keep flying the family and stay safe. Happy New year. Really like your choice of plane. Piper comanche. A classic for plane lovers.
That’s wonderful to hear! We are based in San Jose as well. Let me know if you have any hidden gems to go with the family. Always looking for a new spot for a picnic, camping, beach, etc. Especially with the pandemic trying to get out of the house safely
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan. Probably no hidden gems. Half moon bay airport and walk to Barbara's fishtrap for lunch. Harris ranch airport for lunch. Shelter Cove airport for a day trip.. there are so many others.
@@kgyy5875 we just did half moon bay today for a quick bite and bay tour. Video coming soon!
My dad rebuilt a 180 Comanche from a wreck - we flew all over New Zealand in it when I was young (60s - 70s) Great memories
Its a fantastic airplane! I hope to build those memories with my family as well
Love me a Comanche! Nice editing, and flight! Subbed.
Thank you so much Jeremy! Really appreciate it
Nice vid, thank you sir. I own N6225P, sister ship to yours, based at Nut Tree, love flying the Bay area in the best plane ever. Keep the faith Carlos!
Thank you Chuck! Hopefully we can meet sometime once the pandemic is under control. Gotta love the Comanches!
I got an Archer II and love the Comanche, I hope to get one sometime. Nice video, enjoyed it very much!
Thank you very much! Before the Comanche we owned a Cherokee 180 which is similar to the the Archer. Absolutely loved that plane. Due to the increased scheduling conflicts (the biggest negative of partnerships) and with our growing family, we decided it was a good time to take the next step in aircraft ownership. The Comanche has been the perfect plane so far!
I completely love the Archer.... I mainly got it instead of the Comanche because I plan to somewhat rent it out as well as use it, but I really think about the Comanche for a possible upgrade. Enjoy it ! And congrats for your beautiful family
You have the nicest ATC operators in the country :D
Couldn't agree more!
Great Video!!!😄
Thank you John!
A very enjoyable video... great commentary and music... thankyou.
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video.
I'm excited for your videos! Recently got an interest in Comanche's and I'm excited to see what you do with yours, would love to own one some day
Thank you Nick! The Comanches are fantastic airplanes. I’ll make a video soon on the Comanche and compare them to other comparable planes in the future. Based on my research, you really can’t beat the Comanche. It has a great balance of speed, useful load/cabin room, and efficiency for the money
Next time in Chico you should visit Madison Bear Gardens in downtown. Great atmosphere and food. Nice video. 😀
Thank you for the recommendation! We will definitely check it out next time we are in the area
Nice flight, family and airplane!
Thank you!
Enjoyed the video... y’all stay safe..😊
Thank you Phil! You too
Loved the production value. Good comms. Clear concise. Nice!
Thank you very much!
Sweet! Originally from the KPAO area and live right by KCIC. Sadly the Foodie Cafe moved away from the airport but can always grab a crew car from Northgate Aviation.
I learned to fly out of KPAO. Always busy but a great place to learn!
Sad to hear the Foodie Cafe moved away from the airport. Great advice on borrowing a crew car! We’ll be back
Wonderful bird!
If I was owned one of 250's, definitely would make overhaul and go for an around the world with it.
Nice to see Garmin 650 on board, and will be more nice to see 750 one day :)
Good Luck, fly safe!
Thank you Michael! Took me a while to find this bird and it had almost everything I wanted on it including a good autopilot. All it really "needs" is an engine monitor which will come in the next few years. Debating which one would be best for my panel.
Hey guys there a Comanche Fly In on Jan 16th 2021 in KSEZ. Love to see you guys there.
Unfortunately we won’t be able to make it. With my wife being pregnant and the pandemic still going strong, we are taking the necessary precautions. Once this is all over we will definitely be out there!
Nice video and good editing. Thanks for sharing. I'm less than a month from my PPL checkride and I own a Cherokee... can't wait for that first burger! Looks like fun!
Thank you and congrats. I used to own a Cherokee 180 before the Comanche. Love the Cherokee. Best of luck with your PPL
Great stuff brother enjoy your bird.
Thank you Gonzales!
What a great day out.
It really was Wayne! Just a tad hot in Chico for our liking but it was a great day!
Que bonito se ve cuando se empieza a elevar la avioneta y cuando se guardan las ruedas te escucho decir varias veces “ papá”. Que significa ….. que rico cafecito , sobre qué área están volando. Llevas la mejor copiloto, de California y los niños más guapos de USA. FELICITACIONES.
Gracias abuelo. "Papá" es la pronunciación fonética de la letra P en aviación. La identificación de nuestro Comanche es N5825P. Este vuelo sobrevoló el norte de California de camino a Chico para almorzar.
Great video. I have 13 hrs in a 172N. Still trying to learn listening to control voice speed. Please make some more! BTW your son looks just like you.
Thank you Ed! Will certainly work on making more videos. Learning the speed and lingo of ATC takes a little bit of time. Whenever in doubt, just say “say again, student pilot”. Heck I use that sometimes when I get a controller that is talking a million miles per hour
Beautiful landing... Great family
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video
Very cool! I used to own a PA 24-250. It was a fun plane.
Awesome! Gotta love the Comanche 250s
Just found your channel. Excellent! I should also mention that thanks to msfs 2020 and a new Comanche 250 from A2A simulations, I might expect you'll see some action on your channel. 👌
Awesome, thank you! Hope you enjoy the videos!
Nice flight!
Thanks Russ! New video coming tomorrow!
Awesome Video!! Thank you for posting..
Enjoy these times and fly safe. I do not want to see an NTSB report on you...
oh geez, me too!
Thank you!!!!
I just bought a 1959 Comanche and I’m doing a complete gut job and overhaul
Congrats on your new bird! You wont be disappointed once you can get her in the air. If you haven't already be sure to join the Piper Comanche Facebook group. Lot's of great information and get questioned answered right away!
Hey there enjoyed the video. I eventually would like to own an airplane and a comanche is definitely one of them. Could you tell me what the process was like buying one and what is the normal cost for a comanche etc if you dont mind.
@@ronniethepilot would love to talk through the process further. I’ve helped guide several people find their first bird. The Comanches can range in price quite a bit from $50k-$175k.
Nice job. I was looking at a Commanche for my next plane, but I still need to solo my teenage son and insurance was too oppressive. I just picked up a 182, but a Commanche might be the NEXT plane.
Thank you! Yes insurance is a bit high on the Comanche. Especially if you are putting a student pilot on your policy. Will be good for your son to get some retract time. It will definitely help! Congratulations on your 182! That is awesome.
Great video. Your wife was right when she said "It could've been dangerous." You as PIC need to make sure the traffic is called out correctly. Make sure she understands that when you are #3 to land, she can see the 2 planes ahead of you.
Yes definitely. As PIC, I always look to verify. It’s nice having an extra pair of eyes in the cockpit
Nice! I like the team work!
Thank you Garret!
Outstanding
Thank you Bruce!
Great plane and great video. Very small nit, but I noticed you do something I used to do. You say "Commanche" on every call before the tail numbers, and really you only need to do it once when you first check in and from there on out it just ties up the freq. Again, great vid, very small nit.
Thank you! I will keep that in mind! NorCal controllers typically always call us by type of plane followed by tail on every call so the response is the same from the pilot side. If the controller calls you by say "25P" then it would be appropriate to respond with just "25P".
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan Agreed with you there. If I look quickly at 1:56 & 2:23 tower responds without Commanche, 2:36 & 3:28 & 4:05 approach responds without Commanche, etc etc
I really with I had started flying when my kids were younger like you have, enjoy it!
@@cpy Thanks for pointing that out!
Truly a blessing being able to fly with my boy at a young age. We are expecting a baby girl in the next month and she will be flying soon too. I'll be sure to bring the cameras for her first flight.
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan awesome
Nice video......how easy is it to fly a comanche 250? I have 35 hours on PA-28R-201 decade ago. Cool...
Thank you. Can’t say it’s much different. Controls are a tad heavier and just have to make sure your speeds are on point on landing. A good instructor makes the transition a breeze. Hope you are able to get back in the air
Nice video, what’s the R for on the hats?
My wife got the family matching hats for Father’s Day. She designed the logo. It’s the Comanche coming out of an R. The R is for Robles which is our last name
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan very cool
Sweet video! Does the tower controller always include "the next turn" in your departure clearance? Could she have also said, "left cross-wind departure, runway 31R, cleared for takeoff", where you would only turn left cross-wind instead? I'm a student pilot and received a similar clearance on a cross country solo. "Cross-wind departure" initially confused me (thinking they were warning me of an expected cross-wind on my departure, which there was), not that it was my next turn. I figured it out, but was unsure at first. I don't have a lot of time with ATC yet. Always learning. Thanks!
Great question! Towered airports will typically want you to provide them with your departure request when you call ground for your taxi clearance. In my case, I wanted a downwind departure to get to where I needed to get to. My airport has two parallel runways and the runway they gave me (13R) for departure has a right downwind. The tower had closed the parallel runway (13L) due to the Twin gear collapse which is why she gave me a special left downwind instead (left turn was more direct with my route of flight). Hope that helps clarify. As you saw in my video, if ever in doubt don’t hesitate to ask. Often the controllers are more than happy to clarify if something is not understood. Best of luck in your training!
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to reply. That makes a lot of sense. Keep the videos coming! I love it.
Brought back memories. I owned 6548P for a few years. We used to fly from Schaumburg, IL to Clinton, Iowa for pancake breakfast.
I LOVE your panel. When I flew mine, it was in the early 1970's and it was archaic compared to what you have now.
I have a question. I had an autopilot which was basically a governor and might keep you on a heading, but did not hold altitude. Does your autopilot hold both altitude and course?
Best regards,
Dennis Miller
Anthem, AZ
Hi Dennis, thank you for your comment. The Comanche's are great machines aren't they?
I am currently looking at the cost of adding an engine monitor to my panel. That would be a great addition to replace the analog engine gauges. As for the autopilot, I have an STEC 60-2 with GPSS and Altitude hold. What that means is I can currently switch the autopilot between following a heading (bug) or setting it to follow my flight plan on my GTN 650. For altitude I have a few options. I can hold a set altitude and can also ascend and descend based on vertical speed.
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan Thanks for the response. It didn't exist when I owned the plane, sure would have made things easier.
Best regards,
Dennis
Sure does, especially now that I'm starting my instrument training.
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan Wow, things have changed. When I bought my Comanche, I did not have my pilot's license. I bought it when I was getting close because I didn't want to keep renting a plane. There was no such thing as "high performance aircraft" rating - it was single engine. I then needed about 10 hours to be comfortable in the Comanche.
As an aside, I found it easier to fly than the Cherokee 140 with the fat wing.
I immediately got my instrument rating and flew about 12 hours after that and sold the plane. I was on the road 40+ weeks per year with a young family and realized I did not have the time, or money to stay safe. Certainly the avionics of today would have changed much of that.
I do regret not going back to flying, would love to have the Comanche back and use it for the kind of things I see folks doing on You Tube. At 81 years old, I can enjoy watch you younger folks have fun.
Best regards,
Dennis
Wow sounds like those were the times. I previously owned a share in a Cherokee 180 and find the Comanche a lot easier to fly as well. Fantastic airplane for the money in my opinion!
My daughter used to sleep through the whole flight at that age, always. My wife always sat in the back with her though just in case there was an issue (there was once!).
I miss the days when our son slept through flights. Since the summer when this video was shot, he is now pretty active and sometimes takes his headphones off. With a baby girl on the way, I think I may start moving him forward without reach to the joke so my wife and baby can go in the back.
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan my daughter was pretty good when sat in the front and asked not to play with the yoke. Enjoy whilst it lasts
haha, we will have to try!
Wouldn’t hurt to pull back more when landing to grease it. I just noticed the first landing looked a little hard and flat. Maybe it’s just the camera angle. If I am seeing it correctly just keep holding it off until it settles. Smoother landings. Js. Good video and nice plane.
Seriously??
@@normk5761 seriously what?
Thank you for the comment! First landing wasn’t actually bad at all. Overall I do tend to come in a little flat. I learned in the fb Comanche group that adding some up trim and coming in with power will help. There is a balance though because if you pull up too much, you will just plop down in a Comanche
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan I didn’t mean it negatively. I’ve had my fair share of flat landings and still do sometimes. I’ve only flown piper Cherokee’s. It’s tough watching a video and not having context of the situation. It’s not like being in cockpit flying. Like I said nice plane and thanks for posting the videos. You are already living the dream I want to. I’m working on it.
@@walterwaller didn’t take it that way no worries! Before owning the Comanche I used to own a Cherokee in a partnership. Loved that plane but lacked the availability, especially on the weekends. I like getting the constructive feedback, makes us better pilots! Fly safe
what's your take on a 250? any regrets owning it? what's the realistic cost of owning it, and if you can break it down in a video, that would be great. i am looking at one for cross country trips may be 2-3 times a year.
Hi Joseh, that is a great video idea! So far no regrets. Definitely a little more expensive to maintain than your typical Cessna. We have traveled all over the country since owning our Comanche (few videos made due to new baby in the cockpit) but am getting back to recording. Awesome platform for my main mission.
You don’t have to use your full N number after ATC has used full call sign! You neee to read the FAA 7110.65
I’m familiar and do use the abbreviated version. This was a few weeks after getting the plane and trying not to confuse it with my old plane tail.
How does your wife like the DJI pocket 2? Does it match up well against your gopros? How well does it film through the windows in the airplane? Sorry for all the questions I have been thinking a lot about getting one
We are using the original DJI Pocket and mainly has been used for Instagram. I've had mixed experiences with it. In terms of image quality, I would say its better than the GoPros. Out the window, it tries to stay stabilized tilts the horizon in a turn or climb. While a lot bigger compared to the Pocket, I think I will stick with the Canon M50 for making videos moving forward.
Nice.
Have owned my 59 comanche for 47cyers now.
No better plane
Bill
Ontario canada Canada Canada Canada
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Thanks PJ, I’m part of the fb Comanche group but unfortunately won’t be able to make it to this one
I live in chico, ca
Very nice!
What camera is your wife holding along with her phone?
My wife is holding the DJI Osmo camera.
Scary!
What's so scary?
The same brand of plane Patsy Cline was in that crashed
I believe you are correct Sherry
what's the overhead rotating handle for? tried to find info about it but couldn't
Hi Jay Jay, that is the trim tab. It helps relieve the pressure on the yoke making it easier to trim for a specific airspeed or altitude.
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan ah ok. Thanks for the quick answer :) i already suspected that. it's just weird to see since like the Cherokees and Warriors have the trim wheel in between the pilot/copilot seats
@@JJay-m1x no problem! Actually early Cherokees have it too. I used to own a pa28-180 and it had the trim up top as well
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan oh i didn't know that. my grandfather used to fly a 28-180 and it already had it between the seats with electronics implemented in the yoke
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan My Dad arranged for me to go on a flight in a Piper Cherokee on my 12th birthday, that was 1964, LOL. Nowadays the closest I get to flying is FSX. Keep having fun 👍
@@FlightSimDude I love the Cherokee. Perfect step up plane to the Comanche. I used to own a Cherokee 180 with 11 other partners before the Comanche. I also log a lot of hours on FSX. Waiting for the A2A to release the Comanche for the new Microsoft flight Simulator.
@@MyFamilyFlightPlan 👍
What happened to the gear collapsed? Wanted to see footage Click bait!!
To be honest, that is all the footage we got and learned about the incident. Looks like the front gear collapsed during landing, everyone made it out safely and the plane was towed back. I have seen it back in service so all good signs. I apologize if I somehow made you click on my video unintentionally. I didn't put anything on the title or thumbnail about the gear collapse so not not sure how that is click bait. Appreciate your view though!
If you hear an “N number that is close to yours you would use full N number. I am a rated pilot myself and a retired Controller
Agreed!
@10:10 14 CFR § 91.107(a)(3)
Thank you for pointing this out and I am aware of the regulation however my interpretation is that this is legal under 14 CFR § 91.107(a)(3)(i). My son was under the age of 2 when this video was shot and being held by my wife who was wearing her seat belt. Considering the situation (was close to 100 degrees on this day and the lack of airflow in the back), I decided as PIC that it was best for my son to be up with my wife to avoid further over heating