My experience with Windows Defender goes back to the 2000s when it was sold as a stand alone product by Microsoft. My niece somehow managed to infect our computer with a virus by doing unsafe Internet practices, and to my frustration Norton Antivirus failed to detect the virus and with an update, though now detected, was unable to remove the virus. So, using Defender I was able to remove the virus in the end with no trouble. I've always hated, especially with my older PCs using 3rd party antivirus software, getting a very noticeable speed hit after installation. Since using Defender, I not only haven't had a speed hit, but I've also never had a virus too. Not in fifteen years. But, it is not totally true that Microsoft won't try to up sell their antivirus solutions, for I have gotten popups promoting their security for Android and iPhone devices. Thanks for your honest video.
I've used nothing but the Windows security for quite a few years now without any problems. I used to use free versions of Antivirus and antimalware, but don't even remember the last time I did that. Unless something happens to change my mind this is what I will continue doing.
I would recommend keeping an eye on the subscription renewal cost - it is usually much higher than the original purchase price. My strategy is to buy new, frequently from a retail store Black Friday or Boxing Day sale. I don't understand why companies treat their current customers much worse than new ones!
Windows security has served me well over the years along with a bit of common sense i.e. only downloading from trusted sites. Excellent advice as always.
I'm sure Leo's book mentioned at the end covers this, but, be sure the nut behind the keyboard is tightened securely. I.e., fix the human factors problems first. I was at a trade show decades ago where a product for physical site security was being promoted. It consisted of a video camera monitoring an area which set off an alarm if anything in its selected region changes (within a threshold). There was a $20 dollar bill there with the promise that anyone who could remove the bill without the alarm being activated could keep the bill. I (quite innocently) asked how the "protected region" is defined. He moved the mouse around, with various areas being highlighted and others not. At one point I noticed that the bill was no longer in the protected area. GRAB. Got it. I was a nice guy and gave it back, but it goes to show that the human element must be congnizant of how to manage the system.
Thank you Leo. I've been using Windows Defender and Security for some time now with no issues. Additionally, my VPN software also offers some protection and regular schedued virus scans.
This video comes at a perfect time: a client just asked me to speed up his computer, and he couldn't understand why I suggested that he cancel subscriptions to two antivirus programs on each computer - neither one ranking in the top 5. Another client also had two installed, but one was a subscription to Webroot which they probably didn't need anyway (unless you're worried about Disney+ and Excel containing malware...).
In some cases the free version is feature limited. I've seen software that will search for clutter on your hard drive and clean the clutter with the press of a button, but the catch is, you have to pay for the software in order to do that one task it's designed to do.
I would like to mention an Anti Virus (AV) that also has a Portable Version, which means it can be used alongside a regular AV. It can run during Safe Mode which is very convenient by the way. It is by the French company "Adlice" and the AV is called "RogueKiller Anti Malware". They also have created a portable AV that can be run from the Command Prompt (RogueKiller Command Line) which can help if the computer is infected with severe malware and cannot even run in Safe Mode. Another Portable AV is one by Emsisoft, Emsisoft Emergency Kit (EEK), but sadly it cannot run in Safe Mode...
Windows Security has a firewall as well, which you can customize and block specifics apps from accessing the Internet. I use it together with "simplewall", which is also free. The main reason I use both firewalls is to prevent a couple of apps from calling home. One of these apps is Quicken that is now forcing users to upgrade yearly. So I stop my Quicken 2017 from calling home as I am concerned they will push an "update" I don't want and take half of my screen with ads when I don't comply. But soon enough I won't need to worry about Windows security software anymore as I am upgrading my Windows 11 to Linux Mint. :)
When I used Win11( I switched til Linux), I installed Norton internet security and it was good up until maybe a year ago. Then suddenly I got a tsunami of strange offerings that I never asked for and never needed. So I ditced Norton and all other antivirus software/firewall software. Now I have also ditched Windows because it is forcing all kinds of things on me. Long live Linux.
When I used Win10, wanted to investigate some issue. Norton had the pause option greyed out, I couldn't pause it. So I uninstalled it. Then I found out I had issues with MS security updates, and other problems... Long story short: I reinstalled the Windows and sharing the same experience as you I am now one foot in the Linux world. Win11 will ony run from a bootable usb or a virtual machine. Going to upgrade RAM to 32GB, so each system will share half. Plsnty for each. My 4 yo Win10 pro has a lot of life in it. Compatible with Win11, but will use MS only marginally. For general everyday computing LMDE is just perfect.
I created a simple program that automates tasks and a malware tool specifically malwarebytes flagged it as being a malware, whereas windows defender did not detect it. Even though the program itself had no malicious code in it, the tool detected it based on the fact it tried to do things without user intervention and so to me, even though it was a bit annoyance at first, malwarebytes is the best out there in detecting malwares, it just detects based on what the program is trying to do.
I would also add that some software might seem to be the business, very smart, sophisticated, customisable etc but this is just the front end. Their true mettle is the behind the scenes database of threats that it builds protections around. Less known software is going to be able to afford less to keep these databases up to date. Free systems generally have older databases. A great system that cant recognise a virus is no system at all .
I've used Norton for years now without too much of a problem, then along came an upgrade. You can't hardly move around from the main page without clicking on a link that tries to sell you a new product. If I didn't have almost a year left on my subscription I'd be gone. I'll be looking for a new av soon. And don't get me started on auto renewal.
I don’t have a recommendation, since Mac’s aren’t my strength (though I do use them). In general, though, my understanding is that it’s the same: you don’t need additional security tools.
I've been using McAfee for the past five years, and in the last year it has started repeatedly badgering me to upgrade for features that I could have sworn were part of the subscription all along. Super annoying and no way for me to go back and check to see if those features were enabled in the earlier versions. When I come up for renewal, I think I'm going to ditch it and go with Windows own security.
I recommend my brain, well I have an advantage being a retired Software Engineer and I know exactly what is going on in my computers and recognize scams and evil websites and emails. I infact have completely disabled firewall (I have a hardware equivalent) and anti-virus and my computer runs much faster. However, most people have no idea and are probably in danger of scams and evil software but I think common antivirus software available is not really fool proof either...
Have heard TH-camrs say not to use antivirus or malware protection because it degrades PC performance. First of all, what does degrade performance actually mean? It is 5%, 20%, or 50% - what does degrade mean. It's like parking your car on the street and not locking the doors.
im not interested in AV or Malware software that much but i would like to find a good firewall that easily lets me control what connects to the internets FROM my computer. Zonealarm used to do this flawlessly but not so much anymore. does any one know of firewall software that will automatically block outgoing connections and then ask me if i want it to go thru???
Forget about security software while using Windows 11. The operating system is your biggest privacy risk (e.g. recall). That's why I'll stick with Windows 10 and Linux.
Depends if Recall automatically enables itself when you buy a new computer, when you upgrade to next major windows update after 10, or during updates. Any of them is a privacy violation if it’s not switched on by the user themselves.
Recall is nowhere near the risk/problem people think is it. I have an article coming up on that, but bottom line: it's only on new CoPilot+ PCs, and it's opt-in.
@@cadelepski5161 Linux is open source and there is a full range of open source software available for it. Do you know how much open source software costs? It's free. I've replaced all my windows software with free software and i have a bunch of additional software to use, or just play with, at no cost. Using a free operating system and software is far cheaper then buying windows and software for it. Admittedly, not all Linux software is free but the only things i've paid for are a couple of games i like.
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My experience with Windows Defender goes back to the 2000s when it was sold as a stand alone product by Microsoft. My niece somehow managed to infect our computer with a virus by doing unsafe Internet practices, and to my frustration Norton Antivirus failed to detect the virus and with an update, though now detected, was unable to remove the virus. So, using Defender I was able to remove the virus in the end with no trouble. I've always hated, especially with my older PCs using 3rd party antivirus software, getting a very noticeable speed hit after installation. Since using Defender, I not only haven't had a speed hit, but I've also never had a virus too. Not in fifteen years. But, it is not totally true that Microsoft won't try to up sell their antivirus solutions, for I have gotten popups promoting their security for Android and iPhone devices. Thanks for your honest video.
I've used nothing but the Windows security for quite a few years now without any problems. I used to use free versions of Antivirus and antimalware, but don't even remember the last time I did that. Unless something happens to change my mind this is what I will continue doing.
I would recommend keeping an eye on the subscription renewal cost - it is usually much higher than the original purchase price. My strategy is to buy new, frequently from a retail store Black Friday or Boxing Day sale. I don't understand why companies treat their current customers much worse than new ones!
Windows security has served me well over the years along with a bit of common sense i.e. only downloading from trusted sites. Excellent advice as always.
I'm sure Leo's book mentioned at the end covers this, but, be sure the nut behind the keyboard is tightened securely. I.e., fix the human factors problems first. I was at a trade show decades ago where a product for physical site security was being promoted. It consisted of a video camera monitoring an area which set off an alarm if anything in its selected region changes (within a threshold). There was a $20 dollar bill there with the promise that anyone who could remove the bill without the alarm being activated could keep the bill. I (quite innocently) asked how the "protected region" is defined. He moved the mouse around, with various areas being highlighted and others not. At one point I noticed that the bill was no longer in the protected area. GRAB. Got it. I was a nice guy and gave it back, but it goes to show that the human element must be congnizant of how to manage the system.
Thank you Leo. I've been using Windows Defender and Security for some time now with no issues. Additionally, my VPN software also offers some protection and regular schedued virus scans.
Great advice, thank you.
This video comes at a perfect time: a client just asked me to speed up his computer, and he couldn't understand why I suggested that he cancel subscriptions to two antivirus programs on each computer - neither one ranking in the top 5.
Another client also had two installed, but one was a subscription to Webroot which they probably didn't need anyway (unless you're worried about Disney+ and Excel containing malware...).
Yeah, the only thing worse than having questionable security software is having multiple different questionable tools.
In some cases the free version is feature limited. I've seen software that will search for clutter on your hard drive and clean the clutter with the press of a button, but the catch is, you have to pay for the software in order to do that one task it's designed to do.
Avast was caught selling customers info. I'm surprised you'd even mention that one.
Thank you! 👍👍😊😊
I would like to mention an Anti Virus (AV) that also has a Portable Version, which means it can be used alongside a regular AV. It can run during Safe Mode which is very convenient by the way. It is by the French company "Adlice" and the AV is called "RogueKiller Anti Malware". They also have created a portable AV that can be run from the Command Prompt (RogueKiller Command Line) which can help if the computer is infected with severe malware and cannot even run in Safe Mode. Another Portable AV is one by Emsisoft, Emsisoft Emergency Kit (EEK), but sadly it cannot run in Safe Mode...
Windows Security has a firewall as well, which you can customize and block specifics apps from accessing the Internet. I use it together with "simplewall", which is also free. The main reason I use both firewalls is to prevent a couple of apps from calling home. One of these apps is Quicken that is now forcing users to upgrade yearly. So I stop my Quicken 2017 from calling home as I am concerned they will push an "update" I don't want and take half of my screen with ads when I don't comply. But soon enough I won't need to worry about Windows security software anymore as I am upgrading my Windows 11 to Linux Mint. :)
When I used Win11( I switched til Linux), I installed Norton internet security and it was good up until maybe a year ago. Then suddenly I got a tsunami of strange offerings that I never asked for and never needed. So I ditced Norton and all other antivirus software/firewall software. Now I have also ditched Windows because it is forcing all kinds of things on me. Long live Linux.
When I used Win10, wanted to investigate some issue. Norton had the pause option greyed out, I couldn't pause it. So I uninstalled it. Then I found out I had issues with MS security updates, and other problems... Long story short: I reinstalled the Windows and sharing the same experience as you I am now one foot in the Linux world. Win11 will ony run from a bootable usb or a virtual machine. Going to upgrade RAM to 32GB, so each system will share half. Plsnty for each. My 4 yo Win10 pro has a lot of life in it. Compatible with Win11, but will use MS only marginally. For general everyday computing LMDE is just perfect.
I created a simple program that automates tasks and a malware tool specifically malwarebytes flagged it as being a malware, whereas windows defender did not detect it. Even though the program itself had no malicious code in it, the tool detected it based on the fact it tried to do things without user intervention and so to me, even though it was a bit annoyance at first, malwarebytes is the best out there in detecting malwares, it just detects based on what the program is trying to do.
Very good and informative video, Mr. Noteboom.
I use Emsisoft Enterprise Security with Comodo Firewall and make Backup with Syncbackfree / Onedrive / SSD extern
I would also add that some software might seem to be the business, very smart, sophisticated, customisable etc but this is just the front end. Their true mettle is the behind the scenes database of threats that it builds protections around. Less known software is going to be able to afford less to keep these databases up to date. Free systems generally have older databases. A great system that cant recognise a virus is no system at all .
Bit defender does a superb job. Set it and forget it.
until you want out, then watch the manure hit the fan!
@ never had any problems uninstalling it, guess I'm lucky.
Windows Security works great for me. Blessings.
I've used Norton for years now without too much of a problem, then along came an upgrade. You can't hardly move around from the main page without clicking on a link that tries to sell you a new product. If I didn't have almost a year left on my subscription I'd be gone.
I'll be looking for a new av soon. And don't get me started on auto renewal.
Many thanks.
I have been used ESET Antivirus since 2007. No complaints, so far. And I do pay for it, renewed periodically every 3 years
HI Leo do you recommend anything for mac os ? as i recently went to mac and am liking it allot better.
I don’t have a recommendation, since Mac’s aren’t my strength (though I do use them). In general, though, my understanding is that it’s the same: you don’t need additional security tools.
@@askleonotenboom OK thanks much and have a great day.
4:32 I'm offended that you didn't just list Windows Security and call the rest malware. Oh the humanity! 😜
How about hardening your system with DISA STIGs and/or CiS Benchmarks?
Yes some antivirus only offer a free scan then want you to pay to access more features
I've been using McAfee for the past five years, and in the last year it has started repeatedly badgering me to upgrade for features that I could have sworn were part of the subscription all along. Super annoying and no way for me to go back and check to see if those features were enabled in the earlier versions. When I come up for renewal, I think I'm going to ditch it and go with Windows own security.
I recommend my brain, well I have an advantage being a retired Software Engineer and I know exactly what is going on in my computers and recognize scams and evil websites and emails. I infact have completely disabled firewall (I have a hardware equivalent) and anti-virus and my computer runs much faster. However, most people have no idea and are probably in danger of scams and evil software but I think common antivirus software available is not really fool proof either...
What about Kaspersky?
No longer available in the US.
Do you have any security recommendation apps for Android also, like how understanding this video was for someone like me, a beginner
I do not. Not really an area of strength for me. I will say that I happen to run BitDefender on mine, though.
Have heard TH-camrs say not to use antivirus or malware protection because it degrades PC performance. First of all, what does degrade performance actually mean? It is 5%, 20%, or 50% - what does degrade mean. It's like parking your car on the street and not locking the doors.
👍👍 JimE
I would have a hard time using any of my PC's without the Firewalla Gold between the modem and router/AP.
im not interested in AV or Malware software that much but i would like to find a good firewall that easily lets me control what connects to the internets FROM my computer. Zonealarm used to do this flawlessly but not so much anymore. does any one know of firewall software that will automatically block outgoing connections and then ask me if i want it to go thru???
Still very happy with Kaspersky
I got hit with ransomware once and it starting locking all of my files on my C drive and my drive!
I used Norton AV year after year after year. Now, I don’t pay out each year for it. I just use windows 11 Security.
Very happy with Norton…
What happens when Windows 10 is no longer updated next year?
Not a lot
askleo.com/windows-10-end-of-support/
Forget about security software while using Windows 11. The operating system is your biggest privacy risk (e.g. recall). That's why I'll stick with Windows 10 and Linux.
Depends if Recall automatically enables itself when you buy a new computer, when you upgrade to next major windows update after 10, or during updates. Any of them is a privacy violation if it’s not switched on by the user themselves.
Yep I agree with this.
Recall is nowhere near the risk/problem people think is it. I have an article coming up on that, but bottom line: it's only on new CoPilot+ PCs, and it's opt-in.
Crowdstrike happened because of Windows updates.
AVG apart from occasional popup is straight forward and causes no real problems.
Short answer. NONE. Aware users don't need anti-malware spyware, that additionally butchers the performance of their machines.
Question: 'Is there anything else I need?'
Answer: common sense.
I wish that could be downloaded and installed as easily.
Windows security is all I need.
My advice, switch from Windows to Linux.
Poor advice, as you then have a load of software that won't work or have to be re purchased.
@@cadelepski5161Exactly
@@cadelepski5161 Linux is open source and there is a full range of open source software available for it. Do you know how much open source software costs? It's free. I've replaced all my windows software with free software and i have a bunch of additional software to use, or just play with, at no cost. Using a free operating system and software is far cheaper then buying windows and software for it. Admittedly, not all Linux software is free but the only things i've paid for are a couple of games i like.
Microsott should redesign Windows Defender to look like the Windows 11 Settings app. It still has the old ugly Windows 10 design
Best security for your PC is called Linux. Not only protects you from malware it also protect you from Microsoft. lol
But requires me to get hold of 90% of my Software
You're a Microsoft apologist.
I'm sorry.
Recommending this for decades, as far as social constructs allow. Simply do not go to porn sites. 99.9% security issues will disappear.