performed by Aloys Kontarsky, Alfred Alings, Harald Boje, Johannes G. Fritsch and Karlheinz Stockhausen directed by Francois Béranger groupe de recherches musicales
Watching stern-faced men caress, stroke and beat bizarre sound combinations out of a piece of metal in such a setting appeals to my marginal sense of humour. True story.
I had no idea there was actually video of Stockhausen performing any of his works. Though I studied French in HS and German in college, neither the spoken introduction nor the French subtitles really helped me much.
@HALF MT why is that lol...Einstürzende Neubaten on Kollapse Halber Mensch and Patient OT married this clangorous thunderous vicious metal percussion technique with Throbbing Gristle/Faust/Neu!/early Kraftwerk and Ton steine scherben and made up a revolution in noise sounds nobody touches and had thought about before...is my message clear to you now?
GRM = Groupe de Recherches Musicales. Thanks for the post. It would be nice to see the source visuals and film soundtrack cleaned up and given a proper presentation.
@@ZoyArtery Not criticizing your fine work--we are all grateful to you for the upload. I was making reference to the source materials/the actual film itself. The owners of the film should restore it and make it available, given its artistic importance.
Oh wow. I haven't heard this in years. I remember when I was a lot younger my mum played this on repeat one summer and I liked it but wasn't really into music much at that age. I remember I used to hum it all the time though. Since growing up I'd totally forgotten about it. Thanks
Well, it isn't actually "Music" ...in that it's not an arrangement of sounds governed by the principles of Rhythm, Melody & Harmony. But is Music the only thing worth listening to? Does this "Sound Art" have less value in it's creativity or propensity to provoke thought? The presence of your comment would suggest otherwise.
Caalamus Rhythm, Melody & Harmony are quite the narrow view of what constitutes music. Take for example the evolution of departure from harmony in the sense of church modes (major, minor etc.). For me, it really first started with Mahler who bent tonal harmony to the extreme. Then came Schönberg who released music from tonal harmony by introducing free atonality and the twelve-tone method (all notes of same importance → lacking a tonic). Then came Messiaen who organized sound by colour (due to synesthesia) of the notes and modes. And from this evolution came Stockhausen who took the idea of colour outside the colour of tones and scales to colours of sound. As you can see, this music is very well with the „western tradition of music“.
PiEndsWith0 "....how is this music?" Perhaps you follow my train of thought? Also, everything you mentioned is an arrangement of sounds GOVERNED by the principles of Rhythm, Melody & Harmony. All having some rather solid Rhythm & Melody. Some of these instances, however simply evince Harmony even more profoundly through it's relationship with Dissonance. I might have more to learn about Messiaen... but otherwise, I don't feel Schönberg lacks Rhythm or Melody... even Harmony the way Stockhausen's Mikrophonie does. I maintain that the definition of Music is an arrangement of sounds governed by the principals of Melody, Rhythm & Harmony... that this is Art, valid & stimulating... though not particularly "Musical", as it lacks all three. Maybe that makes me "narrow"...
Caalamus sorry for the tl;dr I’m not saying Schönberg lacks melody, I simply used the example of harmony to show the departure from the conventional filosofy of music. Messiaen still remains under your definition of music, I think, as the combinations of tones are governed by some sort of reason. I understand. Nonetheless, how would you deal with aleatoric music where the combinations of notes are purely accidental? Or with musíque concréte that utilizes any recorded sound not discriminating between tone and noise? What I’m getting at is that your definition might simply be dated in comparison with what’s happened in music. Our music moved past having a center - getting rid of the tonic, the repetitive rhythm etc. - which are the cornerstones of your definition. One can recall Nietzsche and his “God is dead” (the immovable center is no more). This motion really mimics the birth of relativity (which also removed a one, perfect, self-sustaining center). The “step of music into relativity”, in tandem with the birth of sound synthesis, allowed composers such as Stockhausen to not only explore the relationship between regular sound waves (tones - notes), but also to explore the nature of sound as such. Which is for example what happens in this piece. Don’t search for tempered notes… try listening to the changing textures and colours of the sound as such.
Stockhausen was a hardcore charlatan. I guess all artists are charlatans, but stockhausen used written structure to legitimize meaningless randomness. His electronic stuff could be done by a 5 year old with a modular synth. That's not to say it doesn't have some appeal, but it's mostly just his rube goldberg machine of composition.
You think you are funny, but jokes on you because I actually love the sound of shovels on concrete floors. Who cares what my neighbour thinks? I have headphones :)
We are watching a genius while he was bloody alive, performing his own music with his students. What a treasure on this platform!
4 guys 1 tam-tam
This treasure is meaning of TH-cam.
QUE INCREIBLE................ES DEOTRO MUNDO
Watching stern-faced men caress, stroke and beat bizarre sound combinations out of a piece of metal in such a setting appeals to my marginal sense of humour. True story.
Holy CRAP! Where did THIS come from?! I didn't even know such a film existed!!!
That gong takes a hell of a beating. Thanks for posting, a privaledge to see this.
Thanks for sharing this incredible documentation !
Quite funny to see the juxtaposition between the very lively music and the stoic faces of the performers!
rocks.
I had no idea there was actually video of Stockhausen performing any of his works. Though I studied French in HS and German in college, neither the spoken introduction nor the French subtitles really helped me much.
I understood the French better!
Early Industrial electronic music thanks a million for posting this exceptional music & film :-D
Pionero de la musica clásica experimental y progresiva, maestro
KS was from the future.
The very definition of "unlistenable". Much prefer "Mikrophonie 2".
@Frederika Amalia Finkelstein
me too. I think after watching it 10 times you get used to it. Maybe.
I think I heard this first in the 1970s, and I "got it" straight away. It has fantastic textures. To me it is not at all random: it is almost speech.
Same here 🙏
Beautiful.
GOD! It's GOD! I SEE GOD!
Are you hung up?
@@russallert Suzie Creamcheese might know !
"No solo de doce semitonos gozará el hombre"
Какие же богомерзкие звуки извлекают исполнители, просто рай для ушей. Настоящий авангард. Браво, маэстро. Ваше наследие в наших сердцах
Fantastico.
Ouch! Wrong note at 16:12. That was actually meant to be a CLING.
Marc Becker They didn't have the machine that goes "biiiing", that's why =P
Absolutely amazing!!!
What is the microphone used in this performance?
Blue Yeti
After Webern my new obsession is Stockhausen. I love him!!
Beethoven would have loved this
stockhausen happennng live electronic musical concept ... great share thanks!
Genius 👍
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
stockhausen happennng live electronic musical concept ... great share thanks!
funny, interesting, and painful. nice
still love it!!
Détente et tension ❤
Thank you for this very informative video. French viewers are lucky.
gracias por subir el video.. saludo desde Perú
radical ! I love it !
live electronic acoustic musical performance
Archive !
How is this spam?
5:30
Amazing industrial
@Evil Robot Santa Claus 🎁 💣 💥 don't you mean early years Einstürzende Neubaten!
Pity it's in mono, big part of the piece is missing because of this!
nice framing/well shot
Tam-tam gang bang!
Lol...get it on...Gang Bang a Gong...Get it On!!!
amazing
Kraftwerk before they got a hold of synths.
best classical piece that starts with a cartoon rubber chicken saying "uh - oh" evar.
what?
Wow Wow Wow!!!!
what is he doing on 07:36? is he lowering the mic gain?
wow! Uber cool.
Thanks!
I'm having a real hard time appreciating this. And this is from someone that grew up listening to Einstürzende Neubauten...
Sounds like Neubauten in their early years for sure..Stockhausen/Cage WERE indeed influences for sure!
@HALF MT why is that lol...Einstürzende Neubaten on Kollapse Halber Mensch and Patient OT married this clangorous thunderous vicious metal percussion technique with Throbbing Gristle/Faust/Neu!/early Kraftwerk and Ton steine scherben and made up a revolution in noise sounds nobody touches and had thought about before...is my message clear to you now?
Sounds like Kollapse on a more electroacoustic music way lol!
the best thing on youtube..
You've watched exactly one video on TH-cam
♪...
Sehr interessant!
the CD is for sale on ebay today!
GRM = Groupe de Recherches Musicales. Thanks for the post. It would be nice to see the source visuals and film soundtrack cleaned up and given a proper presentation.
I digitalized it from vhs in the best way, you are the first who critizes this
@@ZoyArtery Not criticizing your fine work--we are all grateful to you for the upload. I was making reference to the source materials/the actual film itself. The owners of the film should restore it and make it available, given its artistic importance.
@@whatevershebrings I think the word s/he meant to use was 'critiques' rather than 'criticises'. The difference is subtle, but positively balanced.
Oh wow. I haven't heard this in years. I remember when I was a lot younger my mum played this on repeat one summer and I liked it but wasn't really into music much at that age. I remember I used to hum it all the time though. Since growing up I'd totally forgotten about it. Thanks
Уральская государственная консерватория тут? Надеюсь у меня всё получится) Пишет Кубэс с фейка)
Ещё услышите обо мне)
😎
Привет Екатиринбургу.
‘Night in a morgue’ or ‘Morning in a madhouse’ ??
Wow, da hoppeln die Synapsen.
can't stop laughin. honestly.
i thought I was the only one
the non art of noise
YES
The music of the future, 60 years ago!!😎
OK boomer
Funniest thing I’ve seen in ages. ☺️😅🤣😂
Oh
You find it funny and i find it influential, revolutionary and interesting.
I’ve dug Stockhausen for a long time. I don’t know why. Weed helps.
what did I just listen to?
A genius' masterpiece.
mother of god it's all toilet sounds
lol
Poor people...to think they did all this seriously...they couldn't even be interns at a cukoos nest type hospital!!
The music, you listen in HELL, for ever .. and ever .. and ever .. and ever .. and ever .. and ever .. and ever ..
This is heaven. Hell would be rap, hip-hop, and EDM.
@@dvamateur No this is crap music !
@@archieluxury7959 Rap is crap.
It's like listening to fingernails on a chalk board.
Texas chainsaw massacre music ?
Total crap.
....how is this music?
dynamics, texture and colour equal to pitch and rhythm
Well,
it isn't actually "Music" ...in that it's not an arrangement of sounds governed by the principles of Rhythm, Melody & Harmony. But is Music the only thing worth listening to? Does this "Sound Art" have less value in it's creativity or propensity to provoke thought?
The presence of your comment would suggest otherwise.
Caalamus Rhythm, Melody & Harmony are quite the narrow view of what constitutes music. Take for example the evolution of departure from harmony in the sense of church modes (major, minor etc.). For me, it really first started with Mahler who bent tonal harmony to the extreme. Then came Schönberg who released music from tonal harmony by introducing free atonality and the twelve-tone method (all notes of same importance → lacking a tonic). Then came Messiaen who organized sound by colour (due to synesthesia) of the notes and modes. And from this evolution came Stockhausen who took the idea of colour outside the colour of tones and scales to colours of sound. As you can see, this music is very well with the „western tradition of music“.
PiEndsWith0
"....how is this music?"
Perhaps you follow my train of thought?
Also, everything you mentioned is an arrangement of sounds GOVERNED by the principles of Rhythm, Melody & Harmony. All having some rather solid Rhythm & Melody. Some of these instances, however simply evince Harmony even more profoundly through it's relationship with Dissonance.
I might have more to learn about Messiaen... but otherwise, I don't feel Schönberg lacks Rhythm or Melody... even Harmony the way Stockhausen's Mikrophonie does.
I maintain that the definition of Music is an arrangement of sounds governed by the principals of Melody, Rhythm & Harmony... that this is Art, valid & stimulating... though not particularly "Musical", as it lacks all three.
Maybe that makes me "narrow"...
Caalamus
sorry for the tl;dr
I’m not saying Schönberg lacks melody, I simply used the example of harmony to show the departure from the conventional filosofy of music.
Messiaen still remains under your definition of music, I think, as the combinations of tones are governed by some sort of reason. I understand. Nonetheless, how would you deal with aleatoric music where the combinations of notes are purely accidental? Or with musíque concréte that utilizes any recorded sound not discriminating between tone and noise?
What I’m getting at is that your definition might simply be dated in comparison with what’s happened in music.
Our music moved past having a center - getting rid of the tonic, the repetitive rhythm etc. - which are the cornerstones of your definition.
One can recall Nietzsche and his “God is dead” (the immovable center is no more). This motion really mimics the birth of relativity (which also removed a one, perfect, self-sustaining center). The “step of music into relativity”, in tandem with the birth of sound synthesis, allowed composers such as Stockhausen to not only explore the relationship between regular sound waves (tones - notes), but also to explore the nature of sound as such. Which is for example what happens in this piece. Don’t search for tempered notes… try listening to the changing textures and colours of the sound as such.
Give me a break.
Stockhausen was a hardcore charlatan. I guess all artists are charlatans, but stockhausen used written structure to legitimize meaningless randomness. His electronic stuff could be done by a 5 year old with a modular synth. That's not to say it doesn't have some appeal, but it's mostly just his rube goldberg machine of composition.
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT ?
stockhausen's music. That's what this video and the comments section are about. i thought that was a given.
No, but seriously: what are you fucking talking about?
Fernie Canto
the subject of this video. asked and answered
Sorry about your ears. Maybe give Top 40 a try? Might be more your speed
If you consider this music, go to your neighbour's yard and start shovelling away on bare concrete floor...see what they think of your music
You think you are funny, but jokes on you because I actually love the sound of shovels on concrete floors. Who cares what my neighbour thinks? I have headphones :)
Yep, too easy to sneer, (a very English disease). As much as I like a "tune", sometimes a pneumatic drill blast sets you up for the day...
This is so sad to see..
wall breaking fvk the haters.