I just came across your review .. 10-18 ... I purchased mine as soon as available . So it must be a Gen 1 .. Purchased through Budsgunshop with Lifetime Warranty ... Purchased my Muzzle brake from Grizzly Gunworks out of Canada ... I have some issue’s with mine . FTF , FTE also the magazine that came with it split down the side . They replaced my magazine . I haven’t spoken to them about the FTF , FTE issues yet . I was waiting for a good break in period . So I still have it occurring occasionally . Something you didn’t mention in your video is . The Upper can be swapped out for a DPMS Rifle upper in 308 . Which is Fantastic . Also it was Designed around an AR-10 platform . I don’t shoot mine as often as I’d like to . But think it’s a Great Shotgun . I only Wish Somebody would make a Drum Magazine for it . I feel that would Eliminate any Feed issues . Anyway I Enjoy Mine & understand the Fellow that got a Bad one . But every product has a Few bad ones . Also New products will have some issues to be worked out . Thanks for Your Time
I have a Utas 15 latest gen and love it. Never an issue with it. Ran it first time with 200 plus rounds and short stroke it twice but cleared the issue rather quickly. Love my Utas 15. Now I’m thinking of getting this one. Hope they did cleared all the issues.
I had this gun and it looks great! But i was unfortunately disappointed with its performance. The cycling was horrible. I changed the buffer and spring because it seemed too light. It still fouled up even with heavy loads. I really wanted it to work!
I love my XTR 12 almost as much as I love my Saiga 12. It is one of the only shotguns built on the AR-10 platform. Most others are Turkish knockoffs of the Remington 1100 with a dress up kit to make it look like an AR, but are functionally nothing similar to the Stoner AR-10/15 platforms.
i have only taken mine out once but it did not like Remington slugs at all.....bolt would go right over them, if it did catch them it would just jam ejecting.....hoping it was just the rounds
After the dumpster fire that was the UTAS UTS-15, I can't bring myself to trust UTAS again. If you want a shotgun that looks like this one and you want it to actually work, buy and RIA VR-60.
What’s your favourite box fed shotgun? I want an FAC tactical style shotgun- I already have Benelli M2 SP and various others but don’t have an AR style? - What’s your thoughts?
first time I've seen someone in on of these vids running a shield sight on their gun. Planning on replacing my eotech with one of those. They seem to be almost indestructible. Like make aimpoint look bad indestructible.
I'm thinking about this or the Typhoon F12. I'm having trouble finding the Typhoon in the states as the store in Missouri says they are still wating for them to ship in. That's been the answer since June. Would it be worth it to just get the XTR-12? Thoughts appreciated.
I'd wait for the Typhoon. Have you seen the Web Tac, I've reviewed it on here and I will be uploading a review of the Derya MK 12, worth a look but I'm not sure on availability in the US...
I was looking fir one aswell but ran across this one with a shorter berrel and i caved in i love it 200 rounds through it already and only problem is light loads other than that its bad ass the lower is equal to a 308 and any ar trigger works on it i have a 400 dollar Pinery trigger in mine at the moment and it's a beast. Set up you have any questions feel free to ask
Gun is very inconstant across the board. I know someone who uses it and it works with all ammo. However mines has over 350 rounds through it and has jammed after EVERY shot so far. I sent it back and still have the same issue. I will be getting rid of it, really wish it would have worked.
I willing to bet the Magazine's are proprietary meaning they're expensive cuz Utah's makes their own I mean nobody's talked about that yet but he did say make their own magazines and a lot of weapons when they make their own magazines means they can only be used in their weapons so I found out in my 308 that I have I can only use the manufacturers magazines and they're expensive
Hi. Awesome channel. I`m a fan of 12 gauge shotguns in AR platforms. What are your thoughts on this one compared to the typhoon F12, they seem pretty similar to me... and you did a review on both...
How about the VR80 Shotgun. armscor.com/vr80/ . Compatible with all commercial buffer tube stock and AR Pistol Grips. Manufacturer 9rd and 19rd magazines available. Limited lifetime warranty.
Hi mate, any chance you could speak with lodockgear and do a review on the Robinson arms XCR? I'm trying to find info on the UK spec lever release but there is only one TH-cam video that lasts about 8 seconds!
Available in the USA. If you need the longer barrel, there is an extension available. I love mine. Just remember, 1/2 brass doesn't have the power to cycle the next round. You will also have to purchase sights. The good news, this is a 308 lower. You can swap out the upper and buffer for a 308.
Hi guys watching this review I have one of these but I need a new bolt assembly for it. Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase one from as struggling to find one steve
It changes, but usually between 100 to 250 metre some users says but mag shotguns real range is between 100 to 150 over that is just about chance, shell quality, temperature, low wind etc. Shotguns not really about range.
I’m from the USA and just watched your awesome review. I see yours have a 24 1/2 inch barrel. The one I see online has a 18” barrel only. Is there a link you can direct me to the same gun your using?
Hi buddy, yeah, this one is 24 inches to meet UK law. I've tested a lot of box fed shotguns now and I would take a look at the Typhoon F12 from Typhoon Defense Industries, I have a video on here. Atb, Rack
Do you shoot steel targets at a permission or is it your own land/families? Sorry to be nosy but it looks very Americana, totally alien to the UK seeing AR500 steel targets being shot in a random field :-)
Thanks of the reply. I've seen the website. If more land owners offered this facility, shooting sports in the UK would be considerably more popular resulting in our numbers overwhelming the governments power to restrict our freedoms for firearms ownership :-)
Never had an issue with this shotgun especially with slugs. However, this fucker bit me. Anyone else have issues with a blast coming from the piston system through the rails?
I purchased my UTAS XTR 12 in November of 2017. To date 23 March 2019, I have only been able to fire 25 shells through my shotgun if that. This has been the worst piece of crap I have ever purchased. I wish I could turn back the clock and save my money. To date I have been having issues with: Failure to load (when trying to pull back the charging handle to load a shell, while pull the charging handle back it would get stuck and not be able to fully allow you to pull it to the rear to load a shell) If you lock the charging handle to the rear and load the mag and drop the charging handle, again it gets stuck and does not load the shell. I have had multiply parts bent or broken and had to order replacement parts. The BOLT CAM PIN has bent on me twice so now on my third. The Bolt HEAD SPRING has fallen apart on me again on a replacement On the new complete bolt assembly which I ordered, the Firing pin retaining pin cannot even come out! I am now on my third or forth GAS cylinder valve. The tips keep on bending. WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK WASTE OF MONEY THIS CRAP SHOTGUN IS. I wish i was able to read more reviews before i purchased in 2017. When contacting the UTAS Company, it's very difficult to get Freddy Arteaga on the phone. When I placed an order for parts after maybe a month of emailing and no replay, I was told they did not have the parts and would have to wait until they got them in from Israel i think. If you want to save money and be happy DON"T PURCHASE UTAS BRAND!!!!!!
Americans and Canadians love it...how can you say its the worse piece of crap.....it has fantastic reviews in the us and Canada....obviously you know nothing and just like to moan
A full auto shotgun. I want one right after I get a light saber. You must be 7 foot tall and weight at least 250 pounds. Consider a AA12 if you wish to go that route.
24" minimum barrel length. Dam your laws are almost as bad as Massachusetts. Then again you can actually legally get those and we can't in the "commonwealth".
The chokes don't come with it. You can send in the barrel and for $200 they will turn it from the external threads for the flash hider to internal threads for chokes and they give you those 5 chokes.
K, thanks for the response and the info, I find the design very appealing since I like ar15's, and I bet it would be a very good home defense weapon. Thanks for the vid.
Nucc's Garage yeah, ddi 12 is most definitely not the same price as this. It's back to the old ar vs ak argument. Although i really like my ddi 12s, they are nice, reliable and not too picky, i still prefer this over them. plus psa bought out ddi. So I'll never buy another ddi product again.
Very poor build, broke two both within 50 rounds, waited a year to buy another, hoping they would sort out the issues that they have, and as of yet they are still very poor and the man in the shop said don't bother! Looks great thou
What's with all the "Whews!?" Haha! These are not very reliable. Even after the break in period. The Gen 2s are a bit better. Their mags are actually experiencing some major failures . Some are reporting mags breaking and at the prices they charge for mags you would think they could get it right. The 10 round mags are very awkward as well. It's a cool concept on a AR 10 or LR 308 type platform. Our cost here Stateside is around $ 750.00 for a standard. They do feel okay build wise and they look cool but you are better off running a Benelli or FN. The Mossberg 930 spx tactical is far more reliable and one of their tacticals run right around $650.00.. Also has anyone experienced cracks around the buffer tube? Several stateside did. 2 writers one from Guns & Ammo and one from American Rifleman had catastrophic failures. These are made in Turkey and anything running that much shock to alloy should consider T forge type alloys. Also the reason you had troubles with re assembly is quite obvious. Charging handle was upside down and must be added to the upper before the bolt carrier group.I think/feel before you upload videos you really need to understand the firearm. Also have facts ready for all to understand. These run better off of rounds/shells that are rated at 1300 FPS or higher energy. These are a great concept build with inferior quality parts.This is part of the reason they are dropping prices and many have these on sale. Also it's very important to clean these right while not over lubing . If you folks are seriously wanting to purchase one of these due to their cool factors then by all means grab one. If you are looking for a dependable combat shotgun then consider a 590A1 or Remington 870 in pump shotguns. In semi autos consider Benelli , FN or the Mossberg 930. This is an opinion but it's centered more around facts then a cool factor. Tacti-cool isn't always best. As with many firearm manufacturers people may or may not have the same experiences . I have shot 4 of these and while one has some serious issues the others had minor issues. I have also experienced issues with top end manufacturers as well . So if this shotgun works well for ya then hold onto it. Because the most important part of owning any firearm is practice and reliability.
Whew! Just read all that. You missed the major flaw with this shotgun which is why they were recalled to have replacement parts. These guns are pretty much old news now, if you want box mag fed and go open class in comps then the Typhoon F12 is the one to go for. The Derya is good too plus the Web Tac. If you are on a budget and want a 3 Gun ready then the Stoeger M3K is great and is actually owned by Benelli. Cheers.
What about the terrible shit finish on the upper. Mine arrived and looked like it was chipped and painted over. The UTAS group are a great bunch of guys and I feel for them having to shill this Turkish junk. I sent mine back for a refund.
It's a dang shame the Turks can do better than this if they wanted to. If this thing was made in the US it would be hard coat anodized and the quality of the steel used in the bolt would be dependable. Why a company like S&W don't come out with something like this baffles me!
Mine looked as though its not properly finished prior to painting. That was enough for me. Im done with box fed shotguns and certainly done with Russian (I used to own a Saiga) and Turkish anything....
I will keep my MKA1919 it has a gorgeous made in the US CNC Billet lower. Wish someone would do a billet upper for it! I have this UTAS sitting here on loan from a friend and I am going to shoot a head to head video here in a few weeks. I really like the design of the XTR12 but the materials, fit and finish is lacking (which seems so typical with Turkish box fed shot guns).
I hate this thing, I paid over $1200.00 for this junk and even after sending it back it still will not shoot more then 3 rounds without jamming up... I hope the whole business goes belly up!!!!
Donald you have copied and pasted this exact same comment on any and every video pertaining to the xtr-12. Things like this severely hurt your credibility and make me not want to believe someone who cant even change up the comment but just copies and pastes on *EVERY* xtr12 video.
YEP I want everybody to know how much of a pile of junk this thing is.. When you drop over a thousand on a gun it should work.. and when you send it back and they say "it fixed " and you get it back, and it still doesn't work. Then yes i want to put it out everywhere " this gun and the people who sell it are bad!!!
But if me copied and paste the comment, makes me a liar or untrustworthy then by all means buy one. It looks great and works if you only use slugs in it "at $20 a box" but for fun shooting its junk..
Thanks ASS i have put in over 300 rounds and the only ones that run are slugs... I sent it back and used the same shells that utas said to use and still didn't work in any of the 4 different mags i have. and i did not post to every auto shotgun just utas junk.... I hope the whole business goes under for selling such junk......
Good to hear. I was crest fallen when I heard how many issues they had at first.
It is awesome for 12 gauge. Everything is AR10 platform in a very amazing show stopper for anything
I just came across your review .. 10-18 ... I purchased mine as soon as available . So it must be a Gen 1 .. Purchased through Budsgunshop with Lifetime Warranty ... Purchased my Muzzle brake from Grizzly Gunworks out of Canada ... I have some issue’s with mine . FTF , FTE also the magazine that came with it split down the side . They replaced my magazine . I haven’t spoken to them about the FTF , FTE issues yet . I was waiting for a good break in period . So I still have it occurring occasionally . Something you didn’t mention in your video is . The Upper can be swapped out for a DPMS Rifle upper in 308 . Which is Fantastic . Also it was Designed around an AR-10 platform . I don’t shoot mine as often as I’d like to . But think it’s a Great Shotgun . I only Wish Somebody would make a Drum Magazine for it . I feel that would Eliminate any Feed issues . Anyway I Enjoy Mine & understand the Fellow that got a Bad one . But every product has a Few bad ones . Also New products will have some issues to be worked out . Thanks for Your Time
I have a Utas 15 latest gen and love it. Never an issue with it. Ran it first time with 200 plus rounds and short stroke it twice but cleared the issue rather quickly. Love my Utas 15. Now I’m thinking of getting this one. Hope they did cleared all the issues.
Great overall review of the shotgun, thanks! I'm definitely considering getting this one.
Ted Fisher great video
I like how the mag hangs low. Looks more aggressive
I am definitely getting one 😎👍
Good video but would like to see the complete tear down of the gas piston and how it works... Thanks
it may be causing a bit of controversy but personally I love it :)
may want to add the lower is Multi-cal... AR-10 size lower.. might want to change buffers if you decide to swap uppers..
I'm not sure if it is with it's 12 gauge magazine size mag well...
I had this gun and it looks great! But i was unfortunately disappointed with its performance. The cycling was horrible. I changed the buffer and spring because it seemed too light. It still fouled up even with heavy loads. I really wanted it to work!
Are there magazines other than UTAS manufactured that will run in the weapon? Will other AR shotgun mags run through them?
I love my XTR 12 almost as much as I love my Saiga 12. It is one of the only shotguns built on the AR-10 platform.
Most others are Turkish knockoffs of the Remington 1100 with a dress up kit to make it look like an AR, but are functionally nothing similar to the Stoner AR-10/15 platforms.
I love my UTAS
i have only taken mine out once but it did not like Remington slugs at all.....bolt would go right over them, if it did catch them it would just jam ejecting.....hoping it was just the rounds
After the dumpster fire that was the UTAS UTS-15, I can't bring myself to trust UTAS again. If you want a shotgun that looks like this one and you want it to actually work, buy and RIA VR-60.
What’s your favourite box fed shotgun? I want an FAC tactical style shotgun- I already have Benelli M2 SP and various others but don’t have an AR style? - What’s your thoughts?
gen 2 break the op. rod? its true?
¿You prefer this one or the typhoon? what about put some foregrip, you cant without front lower rail.
I'm looking at getting a shotgun licence, will it cover for this gun. I'm wondering because it has a magazine.
No mate, you will need a firearms license as it holds more than 3 rounds.
Can you find a shorter barrel and a custom charge handle for this online somewhere else? Can a AR-Binary trigger kit fit?
How does the Panzer AR 12 compare?
I've not used one...
first time I've seen someone in on of these vids running a shield sight on their gun. Planning on replacing my eotech with one of those. They seem to be almost indestructible. Like make aimpoint look bad indestructible.
its good or bad shotgun?
XTR 12 POS MY HAVE BEEN TWICE AT UTAS USA FOR REPAIRS WITH LESS THAT 50 ROUNDS IN IT
Thx for the info - is there another 1 you would suggest
I'm thinking about this or the Typhoon F12. I'm having trouble finding the Typhoon in the states as the store in Missouri says they are still wating for them to ship in. That's been the answer since June. Would it be worth it to just get the XTR-12? Thoughts appreciated.
I'd wait for the Typhoon. Have you seen the Web Tac, I've reviewed it on here and I will be uploading a review of the Derya MK 12, worth a look but I'm not sure on availability in the US...
I was looking fir one aswell but ran across this one with a shorter berrel and i caved in i love it 200 rounds through it already and only problem is light loads other than that its bad ass the lower is equal to a 308 and any ar trigger works on it i have a 400 dollar Pinery trigger in mine at the moment and it's a beast. Set up you have any questions feel free to ask
Gun is very inconstant across the board. I know someone who uses it and it works with all ammo. However mines has over 350 rounds through it and has jammed after EVERY shot so far. I sent it back and still have the same issue. I will be getting rid of it, really wish it would have worked.
+Larry Hill Hi buddy, get yourself a Typhoon F12, check out my review, I loved it that much I went and got one. Atb, Rack
Hands down and I own Saiga and Vepyr and Utas VR80 is the best
When you say problems with light loads, how light are you talking? Should 28g shells be plenty for it to cycle?
I found 32g minimum to be best. Take a look at the Typhoon F12 before you buy though. Atb, Rack.
I willing to bet the Magazine's are proprietary meaning they're expensive cuz Utah's makes their own I mean nobody's talked about that yet but he did say make their own magazines and a lot of weapons when they make their own magazines means they can only be used in their weapons so I found out in my 308 that I have I can only use the manufacturers magazines and they're expensive
Hi. Awesome channel. I`m a fan of 12 gauge shotguns in AR platforms. What are your thoughts on this one compared to the typhoon F12, they seem pretty similar to me... and you did a review on both...
Hi buddy, Typhoon is much better, I purchased one myself. Lots of shooters are using them now on the shotgun circuits..... Atb, Rack
How about the VR80 Shotgun. armscor.com/vr80/ . Compatible with all commercial buffer tube stock and AR Pistol Grips. Manufacturer 9rd and 19rd magazines available. Limited lifetime warranty.
@@racknload Why do you thing typhoon is better? Can you explained a little?
could you do a review of the straight pull M1 grand
Hi mate, any chance you could speak with lodockgear and do a review on the Robinson arms XCR? I'm trying to find info on the UK spec lever release but there is only one TH-cam video that lasts about 8 seconds!
Forgot to say, love my UTAS!
+upthetag I'll ask buddy.....
What's the story with the flash hider ...? I don't see one on yours ?
+Jacko B Just got a choke in. UK version doesn't come with one. Easy to get tho.
I just shot the Gen12 yesterday, it was awesome. Have you tried this one yet?
Who makes it I'd like to see some full reviews
@@me2ontube Genesis Arms
What is the U.S. version of this utas 12? I am interested in the 24 1/2 inch barrel for hunting instead of the 20 inch. The longer the better.
Available in the USA. If you need the longer barrel, there is an extension available. I love mine. Just remember, 1/2 brass doesn't have the power to cycle the next round. You will also have to purchase sights.
The good news, this is a 308 lower. You can swap out the upper and buffer for a 308.
Joe ssn Agustin. Have you read all the comments on this post. Alot of people have had major issues with this shotgun
And what is the right ammo for the utas xtr 12
Hi guys watching this review I have one of these but I need a new bolt assembly for it. Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase one from as struggling to find one steve
Ware can I by the5and10 round magazines for the hatsan raider shot gun I am in America
what’s the maximum distance this beast will send slugs down range
It changes, but usually between 100 to 250 metre some users says but mag shotguns real range is between 100 to 150 over that is just about chance, shell quality, temperature, low wind etc. Shotguns not really about range.
I’m from the USA and just watched your awesome review. I see yours have a 24 1/2 inch barrel. The one I see online has a 18” barrel only. Is there a link you can direct me to the same gun your using?
Hi buddy, yeah, this one is 24 inches to meet UK law. I've tested a lot of box fed shotguns now and I would take a look at the Typhoon F12 from Typhoon Defense Industries, I have a video on here. Atb, Rack
There is a barrel extension available on the utas website.
@@racknload I'm undecided on all the different mag fed semi auto shotguns ... which 1 do you like best
love it.
What choke did you use when shooting slugs?
Cylinder bore...
Hello. Great videos. Just wondered what 12g box fed shotgun you would recommend?
Typhoon f12 or the new Web Tac, Check out my videos of them both....
the coyote or rotex rm8 ?
"If looks could kill..."
Will this handle a 12ga drum
Yes they have drums available. Heavy and very awkward though.
Do you shoot steel targets at a permission or is it your own land/families? Sorry to be nosy but it looks very Americana, totally alien to the UK seeing AR500 steel targets being shot in a random field :-)
+blades&militariaUK You need to go to Catton Rifle Sport in the Midlands, all we shoot are steels...
Thanks of the reply. I've seen the website. If more land owners offered this facility, shooting sports in the UK would be considerably more popular resulting in our numbers overwhelming the governments power to restrict our freedoms for firearms ownership :-)
I want one in 20gauge.
saw a guy clay pigeon shooting with one of these the other day. He looked like a right idiot in his tacticool gear.
But how did he shoot?
Never had an issue with this shotgun especially with slugs. However, this fucker bit me. Anyone else have issues with a blast coming from the piston system through the rails?
I purchased my UTAS XTR 12 in November of 2017. To date 23 March 2019, I have only been able to fire 25 shells through my shotgun if that. This has been the worst piece of crap I have ever purchased. I wish I could turn back the clock and save my money.
To date I have been having issues with:
Failure to load (when trying to pull back the charging handle to load a shell, while pull the charging handle back it would get stuck and not be able to fully allow you to pull it to the rear to load a shell)
If you lock the charging handle to the rear and load the mag and drop the charging handle, again it gets stuck and does not load the shell.
I have had multiply parts bent or broken and had to order replacement parts.
The BOLT CAM PIN has bent on me twice so now on my third.
The Bolt HEAD SPRING has fallen apart on me again on a replacement
On the new complete bolt assembly which I ordered, the Firing pin retaining pin cannot even come out!
I am now on my third or forth GAS cylinder valve. The tips keep on bending.
WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK WASTE OF MONEY THIS CRAP SHOTGUN IS. I wish i was able to read more reviews before i purchased in 2017. When contacting the UTAS Company, it's very difficult to get Freddy Arteaga on the phone. When I placed an order for parts after maybe a month of emailing and no replay, I was told they did not have the parts and would have to wait until they got them in from Israel i think.
If you want to save money and be happy DON"T PURCHASE UTAS BRAND!!!!!!
I have one and so far i have had 200 rounds through it so what happened to yours??
How much do you whant for yours?
Americans and Canadians love it...how can you say its the worse piece of crap.....it has fantastic reviews in the us and Canada....obviously you know nothing and just like to moan
Can you mount this one on a full auto ar10 lower and shoot full auto with it?
A full auto shotgun. I want one right after I get a light saber. You must be 7 foot tall and weight at least 250 pounds. Consider a AA12 if you wish to go that route.
24" minimum barrel length. Dam your laws are almost as bad as Massachusetts. Then again you can actually legally get those and we can't in the "commonwealth".
It's a nightmare buddy....
The chokes don't come with it. You can send in the barrel and for $200 they will turn it from the external threads for the flash hider to internal threads for chokes and they give you those 5 chokes.
Jordan Germscheid ...apparently Saiga choke tubes will fit
Is this rifled barrel?
+3D Printwiz No, smooth bore....
So with like, a rifled slug, would it get an effective range of at least 300 yards?
3D Printwiz Slug isn't the most accurate anyway, I think you would struggle at 300. 100 yards is about as far as I would reach out with one....
K, thanks for the response and the info, I find the design very appealing since I like ar15's, and I bet it would be a very good home defense weapon. Thanks for the vid.
Ware are you from
Please compare to your F12 now you have one.
+Charles Davison F12 seems better in my opinion...
No comparison. All the Professionals running 3 Gun have VR80
Looks bad ass but 5 round max mag capacity? Na I'll pass
The Saiga and Vepyr are getting Old school. The VR80 is better
I'm shocked they let you have this gun.
+Soldier53flyer Why?
I have a new one and it's junk they don't run the first clue is when the company gives a one-year warranty they already know that they're selling crap
Can’t listen to that choking
Better off getting the DDI 12 for the same price
Nucc's Garage yeah, ddi 12 is most definitely not the same price as this. It's back to the old ar vs ak argument. Although i really like my ddi 12s, they are nice, reliable and not too picky, i still prefer this over them. plus psa bought out ddi. So I'll never buy another ddi product again.
Pump vs semi. Apples to oranges
Very poor build, broke two both within 50 rounds, waited a year to buy another, hoping they would sort out the issues that they have, and as of yet they are still very poor and the man in the shop said don't bother! Looks great thou
Bollox....this is near enough perfect... You probably brought a fake made in china
@@dennisahmet4902 🤪lol yawn...
24 1/2" barrel? Dear God! I never likes those anti-aircraft barrel lengths. It is a little like a flak gun.
I know but it's UK law...
@@racknload It's still a nice gun.
@@racknload How can I order one with a 24 inch barrel? Are the typhoon, utas and deyra the same sister company?
I'd rather a vepr-12, cooler and more mods available. Probably faster too.
Alec Ingram fbmo
More capacity too
What's with all the "Whews!?" Haha! These are not very reliable. Even after the break in period. The Gen 2s are a bit better. Their mags are actually experiencing some major failures . Some are reporting mags breaking and at the prices they charge for mags you would think they could get it right. The 10 round mags are very awkward as well.
It's a cool concept on a AR 10 or LR 308 type platform. Our cost here Stateside is around $ 750.00 for a standard. They do feel okay build wise and they look cool but you are better off running a Benelli or FN. The Mossberg 930 spx tactical is far more reliable and one of their tacticals run right around $650.00..
Also has anyone experienced cracks around the buffer tube? Several stateside did. 2 writers one from Guns & Ammo and one from American Rifleman had catastrophic failures.
These are made in Turkey and anything running that much shock to alloy should consider T forge type alloys.
Also the reason you had troubles with re assembly is quite obvious. Charging handle was upside down and must be added to the upper before the bolt carrier group.I think/feel before you upload videos you really need to understand the firearm. Also have facts ready for all to understand. These run better off of rounds/shells that are rated at 1300 FPS or higher energy. These are a great concept build with inferior quality parts.This is part of the reason they are dropping prices and many have these on sale. Also it's very important to clean these right while not over lubing .
If you folks are seriously wanting to purchase one of these due to their cool factors then by all means grab one. If you are looking for a dependable combat shotgun then consider a 590A1 or Remington 870 in pump shotguns. In semi autos consider Benelli , FN or the Mossberg 930. This is an opinion but it's centered more around facts then a cool factor. Tacti-cool isn't always best.
As with many firearm manufacturers people may or may not have the same experiences . I have shot 4 of these and while one has some serious issues the others had minor issues.
I have also experienced issues with top end manufacturers as well . So if this shotgun works well for ya then hold onto it. Because the most important part of owning any firearm is practice and reliability.
Whew! Just read all that. You missed the major flaw with this shotgun which is why they were recalled to have replacement parts. These guns are pretty much old news now, if you want box mag fed and go open class in comps then the Typhoon F12 is the one to go for. The Derya is good too plus the Web Tac. If you are on a budget and want a 3 Gun ready then the Stoeger M3K is great and is actually owned by Benelli. Cheers.
@@racknload I miss many things. Makes me kinda flawed . Haha! I ended up with a Benelli.
President shotgun 12 ga.rifle fullaotomatic , magazines 30 round shotgun, ,good gun perfect excellent poweful. .
What about the terrible shit finish on the upper. Mine arrived and looked like it was chipped and painted over. The UTAS group are a great bunch of guys and I feel for them having to shill this Turkish junk. I sent mine back for a refund.
It's a dang shame the Turks can do better than this if they wanted to. If this thing was made in the US it would be hard coat anodized and the quality of the steel used in the bolt would be dependable. Why a company like S&W don't come out with something like this baffles me!
Mine looked as though its not properly finished prior to painting. That was enough for me. Im done with box fed shotguns and certainly done with Russian (I used to own a Saiga) and Turkish anything....
I will keep my MKA1919 it has a gorgeous made in the US CNC Billet lower. Wish someone would do a billet upper for it! I have this UTAS sitting here on loan from a friend and I am going to shoot a head to head video here in a few weeks. I really like the design of the XTR12 but the materials, fit and finish is lacking (which seems so typical with Turkish box fed shot guns).
Do you really like this, I mean really...? lot of money to take a chance on being a dude for me, know what I mean...?
is it cool ya. would i trust it to defend my life absolutely not.
I hate this thing, I paid over $1200.00 for this junk and even after sending it back it still will not shoot more then 3 rounds without jamming up... I hope the whole business goes belly up!!!!
Donald you have copied and pasted this exact same comment on any and every video pertaining to the xtr-12. Things like this severely hurt your credibility and make me not want to believe someone who cant even change up the comment but just copies and pastes on *EVERY* xtr12 video.
YEP I want everybody to know how much of a pile of junk this thing is.. When you drop over a thousand on a gun it should work.. and when you send it back and they say "it fixed " and you get it back, and it still doesn't work. Then yes i want to put it out everywhere " this gun and the people who sell it are bad!!!
But if me copied and paste the comment, makes me a liar or untrustworthy then by all means buy one. It looks great and works if you only use slugs in it "at $20 a box" but for fun shooting its junk..
it'll break the gas rod or bolt at some point anyway.
Thanks ASS i have put in over 300 rounds and the only ones that run are slugs... I sent it back and used the same shells that utas said to use and still didn't work in any of the 4 different mags i have. and i did not post to every auto shotgun just utas junk.... I hope the whole business goes under for selling such junk......