Been towing bike for near 50 years. Not a criticism but what I do. Condor chock. (4) straps all pulling forward. Straps high on the bike. Front straps on the lower triple tree, this minimizes movement due to suspension travel. On the trailer go wide with the strap mounting point. This become tricky with fully faired bikes. Rear straps, I try to use pillion peg mount area. This is a structurally strong area. Do about (3) wraps on the webbing on ratchet straps. My experience is wet straps come loose occasionally. Check the load a few mile into the trip. Don't use straps from a box store. Use quality straps, for example Ancra. Always use soft ties. Never put kickstand diwn. The most force that will ever be applied to a load, ouside of a crash situation, is hard braking. If you have (4) straps (2) pulling forward at 40lbs pull and (2) pulling rearward at 20lbs pull the effective force keeping the bike in the chock is 20lbs forward.
Thanks for the feedback. Your way makes sense. This is the way I was taught, and it has worked for me perfectly. Just goes to show there's more than one way to do something. Appreciate you watching!
Best how to breakdown in this section. Only thing I’d add is to always carry extra straps, at least two and if you’re going to be away from your rig for more than 15min have a theft deterent in place. And, it’s just my thing, but I remove my ties (6x PowerTyes) if I’m going in somewhere to shop or eat. I use a utility trailer with a big honkin gate so that, locked, with a couple of plastic coated chains do the trick.
I think the Condor chock is mandatory. I am spending $100 on a part because I didn't get that first... And run a padlock through the trailer hitch ball release mechanism to deter someone from coming up and un-hooking the entire rig while you eat lunch... The front range in CO is a great place to lose an entire truck and trailer while at a hotel overnight. Check the ratchet straps after 5, 10, 30 and an hour, and watch your rear view for increased bike movement... Mine were ratcheted several rotations with strap webbing around and tight, and still kept loosening but did better after I made sure to get 2-3 complete wraps and lock the handles in the down position. If it rains, stop and take out the slack if they start to slip/loosen/stretch over time.
If you’ve had ratchet straps come loose try making a minimum of 3 revolutions with the strap on the ratcheting pin. This pinches the strap so it doesn’t slip loose . Great video 👍.
I rode my bike 80k miles, didn't have no trailer back then. For those who don't want to screw/bolt anchors to the wood floor, Karavan sells a Tie Down kit for their 5" frame trailers (incl. D-rings with 1/2 x 6 inch bolts) that fits in those plastic capped frame holes on both sides of the trailer. Sold at TSC or cheaper if you shop online somewhere else. My 2021 Karavan 5x8 has four predrilled frame holes on each side with plastic caps on top, but my trailers has 3" frame. So I bought 4-pack of V-ring bolt on anchors and will get some bolts at Lowe's [for the pre-drilled frame holes].
Here I am watching your video 10 days after I had trailered my new to me 2017 Indian Chieftan Limited home on a three hour (5 hours due to snow) journeyfrom the dealership. I had done exactly what you had demonstrated in your video, including using the short straps, the bar savers. I've trailered many dirt bikes this way for years, and I've never had an incident with any of my bikes or trailers. Yes, everyone should inspect their tie-downs when inspecting the trailer connections and wheels, and tighten down the straps as needed.
Great vid mate. simple and Right. Lotta guys will tie down from the top. Bars and top of the rear chassis. What that dosn't account for is the suspension working on rough roads that can cause the straps to get loose, drop a hook off its point and dump the bike on the road. Tie down the wheels (bottom of suspension) and it can bounce as much as it wants without straps getting loose. Same deal with cars and trucks. Tie the wheels/axles down, let the body bounce.
Great video & I agree with all being said here but I need just a bit more securing when towing through the Bronx, NY, it’s literally like 4 wheeling when you’re there. Anyway thanks for the tips.
I own the same trailer. Pulls excellent with a bike. Only thing I do differently is leave slack in the ratchet before starting the ratchet process. You want several wraps to insure they won’t slip. They work off of friction.
Do you leave your bike in gear when trailering. Don’t forget to defeat the security feature on the Harley or you’ll kill your battery. When attaching from the tie down strap to the ratchet hook, don’t attach at the hook, attach at the eye below the hook. Much more secure. Another thing, I run another ratchet strap across the trailer at the rear and across through the rear tire as to help prevent the rear of the bike from sliding out.
I came here thinking that I was going to learn something new. Instead, I had found that I'm already doing the same thing, with the same straps. But, I use the red color because they're much easier to see in the rear view mirror, especially at night. I have a Indian Chieftain, and thus far, I've had no issues trailering it. My wheel chock and tie down points differ, but everything else is the same.
Thanks! I still have the black atraps, they're set aside as back up, or if I happen to be tying down a second bike. But the red will still be my first choice.
This helped alot. I go to Texas to pick up a uhaul 15' truck and their motorcycle trailer. I will be taking my Harley all the way up to ND. Once I have picked up my truck I do pass a Harley dealership so I can see if I can find those kinds of straps.
Thanks Joe, A simple to follow and what's just as important easy to understand guide to strapping down a bike onto a chock and trailer. Regards Steve, UK 10/10**
Great video! Just wondering what size is your trailer? I've got the same brand name trailer thats 9.5 feet long. Hopefully thats long enough for my heritage softail.
I believe mine was a 5'x10'. It fit my street glide with some room to spare. You shouldn't have an issue. I just recently sold it for an enclosed trailer. The Karavan was a great trailer though.
Picking up a Road Glide this weekend with a Uhaul motorcycle trailer. No wheel chock but it does have a place for the front wheel. I've trailered many bikes over the years but never anything as heavy (900lbs!) as a RGU. Good tip on the front, there aren't many places to strap with the lowers on the crash bar. It will be a 6 hour drive back. Thanks for the video and the link for straps. I'll need new ones for this baby.
MA, recently I brought home a Road King with the U-Haul trailer that you mention. It took 8 hours to complete the trip. Using the method described by Joe, I had no issues. The U haul did its job.
Oh, I should mention, secure the jiffy stand side first, as you won’t have a Condor front wheel stand to keep the bike upright. As you tie it down. Leave a little slack in the Jiffy side tie downs, that will allow the bike to stand up straight as you secure and tighten the opposite side. Once the bike is standing up straight, you can adjust all straps as needed. Take your time and don’t be in a rush..I tell myself that before every trailer haul…horse, bike, four wheeler, tractor etc.
MA, watch the ramp angle on the U Haul. My Road King was lowered, so I had to careful with the ramp angle. I didn’t want the bike to bottom out as I traveled over the break.
Not a silly question at all. I do one at a time. I also have the condor wheel chock that keeps the bike standing up. Do one at a time and make sure to put the kickstand down for added safety. It would probably be smart to loosen the left side first considering that's the kickstand side.
You are welcome brother . Just a thought and wanted you to know . Ride safe and keep your wheels rolling . God Bless you and all that ride .@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures
This is OK for towing short distances. Having towed bikes since 1964, I can confidently say I have tried most every way. The right way is to tie the handlebars left and right to supports that are as high as the handlebars and then tie the front and rear wheels down. This will keep the fork springs from taking a "set" and over the long run reducing front fork travel.
This works for me. I've gone on short and long trips and hasn't failed me. Just goes to show there's more than one way to do things. I appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback!
Never tie at the bars. That’s a great way to blow out your fork seals. I tie my SG the same way shown in this video in the front but I use the passenger footboard bracket and pull forward into the condor chalk. Pull 2 times a year from PA to western NC. Never had an issue.
Did anyone mention you have your trailer adapter backwards? When you put the pitstop in you should be pushing it Forward Not Backwards. When loading the bike you can see the whole pitstop move forward putting All the stress on the tiny bolt holding the pitstop in position. When pushing the pitstop Forward you have no stress on the bolt at all but on the plate itself and the two bolts coming from the underside of the pitstop...
Thank you. No, no one ever mentioned it! I don't have this trailer anymore. But I will now have to flip the mount on my lift. I really appreciate you pointing this out, makes complete sense!
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures only saying this because I just installed 3 of them in my trailer recently and that's what the directions say from Condor. Your video is excellent btw...
I don't have enough room to tie down using the swing arm Is there another point I can use? I've also tried the frame, but the right side has the brake lines in the way
Thank you very much! I believe it was a 5x10. I no longer have this trailer, but it was definitely awesome. I now have an enclosed trailer. Appreciate you watching!
Thank you! It can be a little tricky to find the description section. If you're on mobile you should see something under the video that says "see more". Then all the links are in there. Hope this helps
Actually it only says "more" to the right under the video. Once you click on that, it will get a little bigger and you will see "more" again and you click on that. Then you will see the links. I don't know why TH-cam makes it so complicated!
I'm gonna be traveling about a 1400 miles. I have a utility bike trailer. Wood and metal frame, would it be better to anchor it to the wood? Or the metal frame thank you
Hi I see you have a Karavan trailer. You didn’t show the ramp in the video. Did you use the standard lay down ramp that typically comes with utility trailers or did you use another ramp? I’m looking at getting a trailer to haul my touring bike, but I have wondered if those ramps could support it.
I don’t have the trailer anymore, but I just used the standard ramp. You have to make sure you’re on level enough ground though, or the bottom of the bike will scrape. I always found standing up and walking the bike up the ramp helps too.
I’m not sure, I’ve never had to strap down a bike with a sidecar. However I’d imagine you can use all the same points then find a solid spot to tie down the sidecar.
I need to haul 2 motorcycles, I don't have a wheels chocks (unfortunately renting a 6x12 trailer from uhaul), wife don't want to ride that far for beach rally ugghhh , so i have 4 ratchet straps per bike, any suggestions would be appreciated.
Go to harbor freight and get the cheap wheel chock. I'd imagine the uhaul trailers already have tie downs. Also you will probably have to stagger the bikes. That's probably a given lol
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Yea they have 6 tie downs on the inside, so i dont think that will be a problem, hopefully I can get wheel chocks on "their" floor lol thanks bro
I disagree with some of this. 50 + years of trailering bikes taught me to compress the suspension and DON'T have the rear tie downs pull to the rear. Soft loops are good but they need to be on the triple clamps somewhere - above the suspension. Same for the rear - pull toward the front slightly. Pulling to the rear works against the front wheel chock. And transmission in neutral and kickstand up. If suspension isn't compressed some, the bike will dance until the inevitable pothole or bump bounces it loose. After all, suspension ABSORBS bumps. Ride on.
To each their own. This is the way I've always done it, and it hasn't failed me. Just goes to show there's more than one way to do things. I respect your opinion. I appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback
If you tie down the front wheel on each side and let the suspension float you'll never have any problems ( look at how car haulers tie down cars) . You should never pull the suspension down and put pressure on your fork seals.
If you're tying it down the way I did it in the video, you're not compressing the forks. The tie down points are low enough not to compress them. Good luck on your quest!
@@badhabit7379 that’s a bummer. What size is your front wheel? Their website shows sport bike with pretty skinny tires in the chock. It also says it fits any front and rear wheels 14” to 22”.
Secure the front straps ”…up above the forks”. I see no compression of the struts in how this was demonstrated and would highly suggest going to the triple tree above in order to compress the struts approximately 50% of travel. Without this, at each bump you have 900 pounds of motorcycle slamming itself against the upper limit of struts travel. I’d rather have the suspension working WITH me to cushion the bike’s ride on the trailer. The ‘Biker Bar’ proprietary system mentioned in Comments shares this problem. In addition, in Comments it is mentioned using the bars as attachment points “…if no other options”. No. Never. Bars are not engineered for that. Bad, bad idea. If front tie downs are secure and forward, holding bike into the chock, one single tie down looped thru the wheel directly rearward is sufficient.
Appreciate your feedback. I don’t compress the forks because then, your straps are flexing and tend to become loose. Everyone has there way of doing things, and this has given me the best results. I have seen the biker bar, and I am really interested in trying one. It looks so simple and easy! Appreciate you watching.
Hi ! Lol your all wrong !! 😂You should always put your kickstand down with the bike in gear with 4 tie down straps . Then push down on the front forks as you rachet down the front staps ! That bike will not move anywhere, thats why the kickstand is there for the bike to rest its entire weight on , its not going to ever , never break !!! I have been trailering motor cycles for 40 + years !! I Never had any bike model ,brand break a kickstand !!
If you didn't have a Hardly Dependable that was constantly in need of repair you could ride your bike every where instead of trailering it to the dealership all the time .
My bike has been pretty darn reliable! Using a trailer all depends on the situation. Could be the middle of winter and you want to trailer it somewhere warm so you can ride. Or some people are unable to ride super long distances. Or your wife is going on a trip with you and can't fit her 1 million items on the bike 😂
Carter, you want to have forward and backward pressure. This helps to stabilize the bike. Obviously you want the front straps pulling the front wheel into the chock.
The one part I wanted to see was the part you didn't show very good. I wanted to see how you connect to the rear of the bike and that part was pretty vague.
Sorry about that. I take my soft strap and cinch it on the swingarm. I wasn't able to get a good shot of it. You can also cinch the strap around the passenger foot peg. You just want to make sure you have it so there is force pulling the bike backwards. Hope this helps.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Thank you, I have a street glide and was wondering about the passenger foot pegs. Not that easy for the swing arm, bags kind of in the way.
Been towing bike for near 50 years. Not a criticism but what I do. Condor chock. (4) straps all pulling forward. Straps high on the bike. Front straps on the lower triple tree, this minimizes movement due to suspension travel. On the trailer go wide with the strap mounting point. This become tricky with fully faired bikes. Rear straps, I try to use pillion peg mount area. This is a structurally strong area. Do about (3) wraps on the webbing on ratchet straps. My experience is wet straps come loose occasionally. Check the load a few mile into the trip. Don't use straps from a box store. Use quality straps, for example Ancra. Always use soft ties. Never put kickstand diwn. The most force that will ever be applied to a load, ouside of a crash situation, is hard braking. If you have (4) straps (2) pulling forward at 40lbs pull and (2) pulling rearward at 20lbs pull the effective force keeping the bike in the chock is 20lbs forward.
Thanks for the feedback. Your way makes sense. This is the way I was taught, and it has worked for me perfectly. Just goes to show there's more than one way to do something. Appreciate you watching!
Best how to breakdown in this section. Only thing I’d add is to always carry extra straps, at least two and if you’re going to be away from your rig for more than 15min have a theft deterent in place. And, it’s just my thing, but I remove my ties (6x PowerTyes) if I’m going in somewhere to shop or eat. I use a utility trailer with a big honkin gate so that, locked, with a couple of plastic coated chains do the trick.
I think the Condor chock is mandatory. I am spending $100 on a part because I didn't get that first... And run a padlock through the trailer hitch ball release mechanism to deter someone from coming up and un-hooking the entire rig while you eat lunch... The front range in CO is a great place to lose an entire truck and trailer while at a hotel overnight.
Check the ratchet straps after 5, 10, 30 and an hour, and watch your rear view for increased bike movement... Mine were ratcheted several rotations with strap webbing around and tight, and still kept loosening but did better after I made sure to get 2-3 complete wraps and lock the handles in the down position. If it rains, stop and take out the slack if they start to slip/loosen/stretch over time.
@galehess6676 all great advice!
Nice basic informational vid.
No silly extra talk, or annoying music. Thanks..
No problem. I like to get straight to the point! Thanks for watching and commenting
Thanks Joe, I’ve towed several bikes over the years and agree, your advice and demonstration is solid in every way.
No problem! Thank you for watching and leaving your feedback.
If you’ve had ratchet straps come loose try making a minimum of 3 revolutions with the strap on the ratcheting pin. This pinches the strap so it doesn’t slip loose . Great video 👍.
Great tip! I appreciate you watching. Thank you!
I rode my bike 80k miles, didn't have no trailer back then.
For those who don't want to screw/bolt anchors to the wood floor, Karavan sells a Tie Down kit for their 5" frame trailers (incl. D-rings with 1/2 x 6 inch bolts) that fits in those plastic capped frame holes on both sides of the trailer. Sold at TSC or cheaper if you shop online somewhere else.
My 2021 Karavan 5x8 has four predrilled frame holes on each side with plastic caps on top, but my trailers has 3" frame. So I bought 4-pack of V-ring bolt on anchors and will get some bolts at Lowe's [for the pre-drilled frame holes].
Here I am watching your video 10 days after I had trailered my new to me 2017 Indian Chieftan Limited home on a three hour (5 hours due to snow) journeyfrom the dealership. I had done exactly what you had demonstrated in your video, including using the short straps, the bar savers. I've trailered many dirt bikes this way for years, and I've never had an incident with any of my bikes or trailers. Yes, everyone should inspect their tie-downs when inspecting the trailer connections and wheels, and tighten down the straps as needed.
thanks, straight to the point, good tips and no wasted time!
No problem. I like to get straight to the point! Thanks for watching!
Highly recommend the wheel chock. Had a dirtbike dump when the wheels slid sideways in my pickup bed
Great vid mate. simple and Right.
Lotta guys will tie down from the top. Bars and top of the rear chassis.
What that dosn't account for is the suspension working on rough roads that can cause the straps to get loose, drop a hook off its point and dump the bike on the road.
Tie down the wheels (bottom of suspension) and it can bounce as much as it wants without straps getting loose.
Same deal with cars and trucks. Tie the wheels/axles down, let the body bounce.
Yep, you're correct. The only time I would use the handlebars is if it's my only option. Appreciate your kind words and thank you for watching!
Nice straight forward video. Let the bikes suspension work for you. Good job.
@@80terryh thank you! Appreciate you watching!
Great video & I agree with all being said here but I need just a bit more securing when towing through the Bronx, NY, it’s literally like 4 wheeling when you’re there. Anyway thanks for the tips.
I salute you sir!
I'm not yet ready to ride my MC up into the truck.
Carry on.
🤣 fair enough! Thank you!
Perfect! Concise, clear, informative. Thank you
No problem at all! Appreciate you watching!
I own the same trailer. Pulls excellent with a bike. Only thing I do differently is leave slack in the ratchet before starting the ratchet process. You want several wraps to insure they won’t slip. They work off of friction.
It was a great trailer. I just recently sold it and got an enclosed trailer. And great tip for leaving slack! Thanks for your feedback and watching!
I’ve tied my mt09 down twice with the kickstand down. Thankfully nothing wrong. Glad I know now
Me too
Do you leave your bike in gear when trailering. Don’t forget to defeat the security feature on the Harley or you’ll kill your battery.
When attaching from the tie down strap to the ratchet hook, don’t attach at the hook, attach at the eye below the hook. Much more secure. Another thing, I run another ratchet strap across the trailer at the rear and across through the rear tire as to help prevent the rear of the bike from sliding out.
I do leave my bike in gear. My street glide is a 2017 FLHX and doesn't have a security system, but that is definitely a good tip!
I came here thinking that I was going to learn something new. Instead, I had found that I'm already doing the same thing, with the same straps. But, I use the red color because they're much easier to see in the rear view mirror, especially at night.
I have a Indian Chieftain, and thus far, I've had no issues trailering it. My wheel chock and tie down points differ, but everything else is the same.
As long as it works! This is the way I was taught and hasn't failed me. Good tip with the red straps!
Thanks!
I still have the black atraps, they're set aside as back up, or if I happen to be tying down a second bike. But the red will still be my first choice.
The Condor is awesome! Good job Joe.
I ditched the staps and use the B&W Biker bar. Works amazing and never have a problem.
Never heard of it, might have to look that up!
This helped alot. I go to Texas to pick up a uhaul 15' truck and their motorcycle trailer. I will be taking my Harley all the way up to ND. Once I have picked up my truck I do pass a Harley dealership so I can see if I can find those kinds of straps.
Glad I could help!
Thanks Joe! I’m just about to put my street glide special onto the trailer and head home to Boston (from Pooler 😢)
No problem! It's always sad leaving from Pooler. Safe travels!
Thanks Joe, A simple to follow and what's just as important easy to understand guide to strapping down a bike onto a chock and trailer. Regards Steve, UK 10/10**
No problem Steve. I appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback!
Just ordered thru your link, Thanks Joe!
Thank you! I greatly appreciate it!
Looks like you strapped to a location that won't be moving/bouncing like the handlebars, awesome. I use the soft straps as well. Thanks for sharing!
No problem! It's the best spot in my opinion
Love you bro! Thanks for the amazing tip! Heading from Canada down to Mexico trailing my bike.
No problem! Glad I was able to help!
This helped me a lot. Thank You very much Sir.
No problem at all! I appreciate you watching!
Great video! Just wondering what size is your trailer? I've got the same brand name trailer thats 9.5 feet long. Hopefully thats long enough for my heritage softail.
I believe mine was a 5'x10'. It fit my street glide with some room to spare. You shouldn't have an issue. I just recently sold it for an enclosed trailer. The Karavan was a great trailer though.
Great video Joe!👍🏾
Picking up a Road Glide this weekend with a Uhaul motorcycle trailer. No wheel chock but it does have a place for the front wheel. I've trailered many bikes over the years but never anything as heavy (900lbs!) as a RGU. Good tip on the front, there aren't many places to strap with the lowers on the crash bar. It will be a 6 hour drive back. Thanks for the video and the link for straps. I'll need new ones for this baby.
No problem! Too bad you weren't bringing back a street glide! Just kidding 😂 Congrats on the Road Glide!
MA, recently I brought home a Road King with the U-Haul trailer that you mention. It took 8 hours to complete the trip. Using the method described by Joe, I had no issues. The U haul did its job.
Oh, I should mention, secure the jiffy stand side first, as you won’t have a Condor front wheel stand to keep the bike upright.
As you tie it down. Leave a little slack in the Jiffy side tie downs, that will allow the bike to stand up straight as you secure and tighten the opposite side. Once the bike is standing up straight, you can adjust all straps as needed. Take your time and don’t be in a rush..I tell myself that before every trailer haul…horse, bike, four wheeler, tractor etc.
MA, watch the ramp angle on the U Haul. My Road King was lowered, so I had to careful with the ramp angle. I didn’t want the bike to bottom out as I traveled over the break.
Maybe a silly question regarding unloading. The front straps undo one at a time or try to unlock them both at once.
Not a silly question at all. I do one at a time. I also have the condor wheel chock that keeps the bike standing up. Do one at a time and make sure to put the kickstand down for added safety. It would probably be smart to loosen the left side first considering that's the kickstand side.
Great info Joe, keep up the good work. ✌
Awesome information I’ll be trailing my bike for the first time in a few weeks.. thanks for video
I would put it around the Frame and the Engine guard and it will make it more secure . Just my Opinion. You do it your way bro. God bless
Whatever works. As you just showed, there's more than one way to do something. That would be a good option too. Thanks for your feedback and watching!
You are welcome brother . Just a thought and wanted you to know . Ride safe and keep your wheels rolling . God Bless you and all that ride .@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures
Great tips Joe. Thanks for sharing this info. I use a similar technique when towing but I use tank straps. Ride safe brother. 👍👊🇺🇸
This is OK for towing short distances. Having towed bikes since 1964, I can confidently say I have tried most every way. The right way is to tie the handlebars left and right to supports that are as high as the handlebars and then tie the front and rear wheels down. This will keep the fork springs from taking a "set" and over the long run reducing front fork travel.
This works for me. I've gone on short and long trips and hasn't failed me. Just goes to show there's more than one way to do things. I appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback!
Never tie it by the hanlebars
Never tie at the bars. That’s a great way to blow out your fork seals. I tie my SG the same way shown in this video in the front but I use the passenger footboard bracket and pull forward into the condor chalk. Pull 2 times a year from PA to western NC. Never had an issue.
Great video. Thanks for the good tips about the short tie straps. RIDE SAFE
Good stuff Joe!
Good video. Thanks
Thank you very much. Appreciate you watching!
Thx Joe, Appreciate the wisdom 👍👍👍👍👍
No problem at all! I appreciate you watching!
Thank you for making this. So helpful for me
My pleasure. Glad I could help you out!
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures just order the rhino straps you recommended and they’re arriving tomorrow!
Very nice. I've used them multiple times since shooting this video, and they still work great!
Good stuff sir I have been to several calls where bikes have fallen off trailers.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures You have the Condor link for the tie downs.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures ywhen I click on the tie-down it takes me to the Condor site.
Don't forget trailer mode if your bike has it.
Great video, thanks!
No problem! I appreciate you watching!
Thanks for the info.
You remind me of Vin Desel. Thanks for the video. 👍
Did anyone mention you have your trailer adapter backwards?
When you put the pitstop in you should be pushing it Forward Not Backwards.
When loading the bike you can see the whole pitstop move forward putting All the stress on the tiny bolt holding the pitstop in position.
When pushing the pitstop Forward you have no stress on the bolt at all but on the plate itself and the two bolts coming from the underside of the pitstop...
Thank you. No, no one ever mentioned it! I don't have this trailer anymore. But I will now have to flip the mount on my lift. I really appreciate you pointing this out, makes complete sense!
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures only saying this because I just installed 3 of them in my trailer recently and that's what the directions say from Condor.
Your video is excellent btw...
@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures ill be adding a few more videos of my chalks how I installed them and then loading bike.
I am not a youtuber btw lol...
@eagle1hd I should've looked at the directions 🤣 thanks brother!
Good info Joe 🤙
I don't have enough room to tie down using the swing arm
Is there another point I can use?
I've also tried the frame, but the right side has the brake lines in the way
You can cinch your tie strap on the passenger peg
I go through the rear wheel.
(Cast wheels)
Of course... 2 straps.
Never had any problems.
Good stuff!
Great explainer vid. I think I have your same trailer. Is that a 5x8?
Thank you very much! I believe it was a 5x10. I no longer have this trailer, but it was definitely awesome. I now have an enclosed trailer. Appreciate you watching!
Great info, I couldn’t find the links to the straps…
Thank you! It can be a little tricky to find the description section. If you're on mobile you should see something under the video that says "see more". Then all the links are in there. Hope this helps
Actually it only says "more" to the right under the video. Once you click on that, it will get a little bigger and you will see "more" again and you click on that. Then you will see the links. I don't know why TH-cam makes it so complicated!
Thanks, found it…
@@j.e.g.4624 no problem
On my 2004 Speed triple 955 the low point that wont compress the shocks will be right on the fork seals, id imagine that isnt a good place? Any ideas?
I’m honestly not sure because I have never tied one of those down.
I'm gonna be traveling about a 1400 miles. I have a utility bike trailer. Wood and metal frame, would it be better to anchor it to the wood? Or the metal frame thank you
I’m honestly not sure. I know I installed my tie downs right into the wood and bolted them in. Worked fine for me.
Hi I see you have a Karavan trailer. You didn’t show the ramp in the video. Did you use the standard lay down ramp that typically comes with utility trailers or did you use another ramp? I’m looking at getting a trailer to haul my touring bike, but I have wondered if those ramps could support it.
I don’t have the trailer anymore, but I just used the standard ramp. You have to make sure you’re on level enough ground though, or the bottom of the bike will scrape. I always found standing up and walking the bike up the ramp helps too.
If I have no chuck.. is it possible to make something with wood?
I would probably just spend the money for a chock. Might be a little risky using wood to support a heavy bike. That's just me though
GREAT VIDEO...WISH HE WOULD OF SHOWN, WHERE TO HOOK SOFT STRAPS ON THE REAR, OF BIKE WITH SADDLE BAGS...I GUESS, TAKE OFF BAGS???
Thank you. You could also put the soft straps on your passenger pegs if you have them.
what changes with a bike with a side car?
I’m not sure, I’ve never had to strap down a bike with a sidecar. However I’d imagine you can use all the same points then find a solid spot to tie down the sidecar.
It doesn’t hurt to leave the bike in gear while in the Condor or other chock.
You're absolutely right. Adds another layer of safety. I always leave my bike in gear!
Is it okay if my straps connect to the forks near the center of the wheel??
I'm not sure about that. I feel like it wouldn't be a good spot. All I can recommend is what I showed in the video.
What brand, model number, and size trailer do you have? I have a 2020 Road glide with a tour pack on it thats set back about 3.75 inches.
It's a Karavan 5'x10' utility trailer. I just recently sold it and got an enclosed trailer. The Karavan trailer was great though.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures cool,,, those enclosed trailers are nice! Thanks for the info
@@71cfree no problem brother
What size is the trailer?
@@doublergarage7431 it was a 5x10. I don’t have it anymore because I upgraded to an enclosed trailer
Curious, does that not scratch your shock in the front?
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures thank you! Well out together vid sir!
I just put the straps on handle bars and sissy bars. No problems.
I know that's not recommended tie down points. But if it works for you, then great.
Video is a little dark, and with black straps i had a hard time seeing what you were doing
Sorry about that!
I don’t even strap down my road king. Just put it in the wheel chock, kickstand down and go!
@@stevesmith1493 if that works for you, then great. No way in heck I’m doing that though! 😂
Great video, are you still using this trailer? thanks
I am not using this trailer anymore. I upgraded to an enclosed. It was a great trailer though!
Can you do a video on the new enclosed trailer setup? Just a thought?
@@gregoryc5989 I could! I’ll add it to the list! Thank you
Rhino way too much $$$$$. Get the same thing with Vevor, same specs, half the price. Good video!
@@SuperdogRW713 thank you very much. Still using the rhino straps to this day and they are still holding up. I will however look into the Vevor straps
His is mostly for HD riders as they either don't want to really ride far, or its broken down.
Lol
I need to haul 2 motorcycles, I don't have a wheels chocks (unfortunately renting a 6x12 trailer from uhaul), wife don't want to ride that far for beach rally ugghhh , so i have 4 ratchet straps per bike, any suggestions would be appreciated.
Go to harbor freight and get the cheap wheel chock. I'd imagine the uhaul trailers already have tie downs. Also you will probably have to stagger the bikes. That's probably a given lol
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Yea they have 6 tie downs on the inside, so i dont think that will be a problem, hopefully I can get wheel chocks on "their" floor lol thanks bro
What about throwing it in first gear?
I always leave mine in 1st gear.
Location of rear tie down was not shown clearly.
I apologize. You can use the swingarm, or sometimes I will use the passenger footpeg bracket
i use acebike dualstrap deluxe
Nice. Whatever works!
All straps should pull forward, into the chock. Very few people know this.
What trailer manufacturer is that?
Hey Dennis, it's a Karavan. I believe you can find them at home Depot
I disagree with some of this. 50 + years of trailering bikes taught me to compress the suspension and DON'T have the rear tie downs pull to the rear. Soft loops are good but they need to be on the triple clamps somewhere - above the suspension. Same for the rear - pull toward the front slightly. Pulling to the rear works against the front wheel chock. And transmission in neutral and kickstand up. If suspension isn't compressed some, the bike will dance until the inevitable pothole or bump bounces it loose. After all, suspension ABSORBS bumps. Ride on.
To each their own. This is the way I've always done it, and it hasn't failed me. Just goes to show there's more than one way to do things. I respect your opinion. I appreciate you watching and leaving your feedback
If you tie down the front wheel on each side and let the suspension float you'll never have any problems ( look at how car haulers tie down cars) . You should never pull the suspension down and put pressure on your fork seals.
How big is your trailer?
It's a 5'x10'
How to secure the bike without fork compression?
My quest continues
If you're tying it down the way I did it in the video, you're not compressing the forks. The tie down points are low enough not to compress them. Good luck on your quest!
I was hoping you wasn't going to hook the straps to the handle bars see so many ppl doing that an that's why fork seals go bad
Yep! I was taught to never do that.
Those Chocks will not work on a Dyna wide glide with the skinny front wheel
@@badhabit7379 that’s a bummer. What size is your front wheel? Their website shows sport bike with pretty skinny tires in the chock. It also says it fits any front and rear wheels 14” to 22”.
Video is black on black cant see anything you should have used neon straps
What size is your trailer you are using in this video?
The trailer in the video is a 5'x10'
Secure the front straps ”…up above the forks”. I see no compression of the struts in how this was demonstrated and would highly suggest going to the triple tree above in order to compress the struts approximately 50% of travel. Without this, at each bump you have 900 pounds of motorcycle slamming itself against the upper limit of struts travel. I’d rather have the suspension working WITH me to cushion the bike’s ride on the trailer. The ‘Biker Bar’ proprietary system mentioned in Comments shares this problem.
In addition, in Comments it is mentioned using the bars as attachment points “…if no other options”. No. Never. Bars are not engineered for that. Bad, bad idea.
If front tie downs are secure and forward, holding bike into the chock, one single tie down looped thru the wheel directly rearward is sufficient.
Appreciate your feedback. I don’t compress the forks because then, your straps are flexing and tend to become loose. Everyone has there way of doing things, and this has given me the best results.
I have seen the biker bar, and I am really interested in trying one. It looks so simple and easy! Appreciate you watching.
Hi ! Lol your all wrong !! 😂You should always put your kickstand down with the bike in gear with 4 tie down straps . Then push down on the front forks as you rachet down the front staps ! That bike will not move anywhere, thats why the kickstand is there for the bike to rest its entire weight on , its not going to ever , never break !!! I have been trailering motor cycles for 40 + years !! I Never had any bike model ,brand break a kickstand !!
If you didn't have a Hardly Dependable that was constantly in need of repair you could ride your bike every where instead of trailering it to the dealership all the time .
My bike has been pretty darn reliable! Using a trailer all depends on the situation. Could be the middle of winter and you want to trailer it somewhere warm so you can ride. Or some people are unable to ride super long distances. Or your wife is going on a trip with you and can't fit her 1 million items on the bike 😂
why so dark video? :)
I didn’t have any good lights yet, sorry!
Should never pull backwards on straps. This can pull motorcycle out of wheel chock
Carter, you want to have forward and backward pressure. This helps to stabilize the bike. Obviously you want the front straps pulling the front wheel into the chock.
I ride my motorcycle
@@drainmonkeys385 nice! So do I!
Not super helpful if you haven't gone ahead and bought every single product that you used
Every product in this video I purchased myself 🤷
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Glad for you
@@eldoradomanchuria thanks!
The one part I wanted to see was the part you didn't show very good. I wanted to see how you connect to the rear of the bike and that part was pretty vague.
Sorry about that. I take my soft strap and cinch it on the swingarm. I wasn't able to get a good shot of it. You can also cinch the strap around the passenger foot peg. You just want to make sure you have it so there is force pulling the bike backwards. Hope this helps.
@@JoeGoeMotorcycleAdventures Thank you, I have a street glide and was wondering about the passenger foot pegs. Not that easy for the swing arm, bags kind of in the way.
@@scottanderson5290 no problem. Glad I could help!
Another option is to go through the rear wheel.
Unless you have spokes.
As Joe explained....
Make sure you have some force pulling backwards.
@@rickbrown7287 yes, going through the rear wheel is a good choice as well. Thanks for your feedback Rick!