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Awesome you're going with Celtic mythology. I understand if you don't speak Irish, so here's a really cool website that has audio examples for many Irish words: www.teanglann.ie/ga/fuaim/f%C3%A1il
I am delighted you decided to tackle this topic! Thank you! But if you are going to be covering Gaelic myths, it would be useful for you to check out a pronounciation guide for Gaelic words. It is a bit complicated, but the basics are not too hard to pick up. Sorry to be like that, but it is like nails on a chalkboard to me!
The Children of the Danu and Firbolg gave each other equipment, decided on set army sizes, and set strict rules for their battle. Was it actually a battle, or was it just an unusually violent sport?
What it really blow my mind is that they totally agreed to do all that stuff... but they could not peafully agree how they could divide the land first.
" We got the greatest sword! " " We got a spear that acts like a heat seeking missile! " " We got a cauldron that never empties! " " We got a rock that screams. "
Local deity says "That land is your destiny". Chosen people: "Thanks. Oh, someone lives there already." Deity: "Whatever." Where have we heard this before?
It's pretty interesting, because it sounds like this is quite clearly the inspiration for Gae Bolg's ability in Fate. The Gae Bolg of legend doesn't have that ability, but rather the ability to shoot barbs into the body of the victim.
The Gae Bolg was a very different weapon. You had to kick it at an enemy, and when it impaled them it sprouted thorns/barbs and basically turned them into a thorn bush with skin.
@@deathcamz389 greek gets attention i think mainiy because modern media and because the greeks wrote everything down and norse i think just because marvel thor comics other than that i dont know
@@deathcamz389 There are so many mythologies that it's impossible to represent them all. Han mythology, Yamato, Mongol, Turkic, Siberian, Dene, Quechua, Maya, Inca, Benin, Nigerian, Basque, Roman, Persian, Arab, Polynesian etc.
I love how you can find aspects common with norse mythology. A cosmic life giving tree, a great war between two clans, a race of ancient beings who seem to predate the gods in the mythos... I love how these common motifs can be found throughout indo-european mythologies
@@matthewmccallion3311 Ulster Irish? Oh dear. Let's hope this comment section isn't flooded by a bunch of Unionist and Republicans in their neverending blood feud.
This version of pre-Christian Irish comogony is actually quite a late invention, as no extant cosmogenic narrative exists, as every text or manuscript was written after Christianty had took a strong foothold, and the litterati were mostly monks. This particular version, where Bile and Danu are the primordial "parents" of the Tuatha de Danann, and An Dagda and Brigid are siblings (and not father daughter) are also a bit mixed about, though again typically later material owing to Victorian codification, rather than being reflective of pre-Christian worldview... Im actually really curious what texts you used to make these videos? This sounds like P. B. Ellis's version, in which case very recent.
Actually it seems to me a LOT like sumerian myths. Particularly the things about their people coming from a place with cities near a river, each city having a treasure and one of them having a king's right of rule, magic rock.
Yeah, I want to know the texts used too. I'm pretty familiar with the historical versions of the myths found in books like the Lebor Gabala Erenn, and many of the retellings or variations from the Celtic Revival in the Victorian era(as well as collected accounts of Irish/Gaelic folklore from the era), and I've never really heard this version before.
The beginning sounds like by Ella Young (1867 - 1956) to me, she was known for fictionalising accounts of Irish myth and unfortunately not being clear that they were fiction! The rest seems straight out of The First Battle of Cath Maige Tuired, itself written 100s of years after The Battle of Caith Maige Tuired, retroactively creating a prequel to fit it in with the invasion schemes developed in the 11th century as part of the Lenora Gabála Érenn texts! Layers on layers on layers...
There actually aren't any really... owing primarily to the cosmogenic narrative needing to fit into a Christian cosmology. There are easentially bits and pieces, some scholars have made a case for stories like "The Second Battle of Moytura" having some cosmogenic and eschatologicial significance, but its primarily speculative. Otherwise you have "micro-cosmogonies" in tales about the formation of specific geographic features. All of the cosmogenic myths floating out there are modern creations, be it the one featured here by P.B. Ellis, or the older "Earth Shapers" by Ella Young (which can he found in "Celtic Wonder Tales"). You can find some general perspectives about the topic here, www.tairis.co.uk/cosmology/creation-myths
SMASH PAD And the Irish are Christian now, yet we still delight in their myths. It’s not like we can’t study people’s folklore just because they’ve changed religions.
Yeah, you've got a point there. I meant don't forget the turks are a branch of the same people that would later make their mark on the asian steppes like the mongols, the xiognu ( the huns?) and the rouran peoples and then i some.
Dilay Aydoğdu There's another version where the Tuatha Dé Dannan (what these guys call "the children of Danu"; it more properly translates to "the God-people/nation of Danu") arrive on a flying ship and abandon it at the top of a mountain
Another game of thrones connection. Take Ireland, turn it upside down, add the north and the Dornish penninsula and you have Westeros. It's remarkably obvious once you notice it, even down to the location of some mountain ranges, rivers and cities.
Born American. Bucky is short for Buchanan, which is Scottish, while Barnes could be Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, or possibly Irish if it's an Anglicised version of O'Bearain - "Son of Bearan".
I kinda want something along the lines of Winter Soldier's origin story to happen in this culture's mythology. Even better is if that person used to be some whim or a healer as long as they didn't know how to fight before they were reforged into their enemy's minion. Is that creepy?
Great vid. but... since you titled it Celtic myths and not Irish myths,... I really hope you aren't confusing the two as being synonymous and going to get into some, say, Scottish and Welsh mythology too.
That's interesting, I've always thought one of Irish mythology's charms was its lack of a creation myth. I think people are so used to there being a creation story they just feel obliged to wedge one in. I personally like the 'this land has always been here' approach.
From the back and forth, to the fighting of champions, to the divines saving their champions, it’s amazing the striking similarities between this tale and the Iliad
Irish speaker here, you pronounced the first part of inis fail right however the second part is sounds more like fall love the content nonetheless you guys r awesome
There's a lot of stuff here that's from modern (as in 20th century in some cases) re-imaginings of the myths rather than from what has been found in the older records.
Original term was goidelic, but pronounciation of the language changed over time. If you find that funny then wait until you say the words gate, gale and gainsaid out loud.
It's not "Fail" as in, well, "fail". The little line above the "a" drags out the letter. Basically it's more like "Inis Fawl." Also, "Daghda" is not "Dagda". The "gh" is silent
@@yaumelepire6310 Ugh, yeah it is. That's kinda why I pointed it out. Also where I'm from we just call it Irish. Some people call it Gaelic. Celtic is definitely completely wrong
Congratulations mate. Am very impressed with your pronunciation of Gaeilge. As an Irish language teacher and amateur historian/folklorist, I recognise how difficult it is, even for us Irish. So, well done and thanks for giving us this great rendition of the rise of the Tuatha de Danaan. (Would love to see you tackle of my username- sake, Tuathal Techmare.
Very little survives of Celtic mythology but if you're going to tell the story pick one source and stick with it. This is 4 different versions of the story all smooshed together and it doesn't make a lot of sense. But still great job on promoting Celtic culture and myth it is sadly dying out and needs to be preserved. Hopefully, videos like this will spark interest in others to further study and spread this myth tradition.
Whst was the point of that gentelmanly conduct before Bres came along if it was going to devolve into revenge, bitterness and anger? They would have been better off with just a regular battle but because they lost the single combat and then decoded to continue attacking the opposong army,it makes them look petty, dishonorable amd down-rite cowardly and disrespectful. (I guess the IRA and their cowardly murdering of citizens are inspired by their mythology and are probably Bres' scumbag, ancestors. What the IRA did was nothing more than horrid, disgusting, terrorism.)
The kings need to be perfect was supposed to be about magical ability, that his powers wouldn't ever be as good as they could be. In Irish history (pre Norman) when a king was defeated and was Ment to be a king no longer they would cut off his nipples. A lovely culture right!
Woha, this is neat. I have little to no idea about celtic myth / Irish culture. How cool is it that the name "Bridget" goes back that far?!? Like, I almost automatically auto-complete "Bridget" to "Bridget Jones" at this point because of those damn movies. Those movies ruined that name for me. Now, I at least have a cool factoid to sooth my burning hatred.
It’s kind of interesting regarding anthropological evidence regarding the origins of the celts in Ireland and scots. The celts supposedly migrated to Ireland from what is now known as Scotland. And the scots(who for simplicity will be forever called the scots) likely emigrated to Scotland hence the name around the same time as the celts moving to Ireland
DannL18 other way around. Parts of western Scotland during the time of roman occupation of Britain was settled by a Gaelic tribe from Ireland whom the Romans called the "Scotti".
The Gaelic celts probably came to Ireland from the Iberian peninsula and from Ireland settled the Isle of Man and Scotland. The Brythonic Celts on the other hand travelled further north on the continent of Europe before settling the south and Middle of Britain leading to what we now know as the Celtic nations of Wales Cornwall and Britanny.
@bbonner422 Main problem is that the celts were the primary tribe of middle, west and southern europe before the germanic and slawic spread all over. So some of the iberian connections should also count as celtic which makes this thrid of non-celts kinda celtic again, doesn't it?
The people of Fearghal/Virgil of Salzburg, who advised the first Carolingian King on overthrowing the Merovingians as Kings. Basically, an Irishman helped you get the dynasty that produced Charlemagne the first Holy Roman Emperor. You are welcome.
I know you sorta wriggled your way out of it with the whole "or so some say" bit, but I've literally never heard the version of events where Brighid and The Dagda are the first Tuatha De Danann and are sprung from an Oak Tree. The Dagda is a major character in Celtic Mythology and often presented as one of the most important amongst the Tuatha De Danann, but I don't know where you're getting the "he was the first" bit. Adding in Brighid is even more confusing, since well known for not playing much of a role in the mythology despite being so popular and influential both today and in the past(as opposed to, say, Manannan Mac Lir who has a tendency of popping up in a manner befitting a fairly widely-revered deity). Not to mention that she's typically described as the Dagda's daughter, not his sister. I've also never heard Danu described as "the waters of heaven." In fact, I've only ever heard of her described as a potential mother goddess for the Tuatha De Danann who likely was associated with water. She also is never mentioned in any historical sources on the mythology, she's largely a historical reconstruction down to her name(which would more properly be written *Danu, to indicate that her name is not actually attested and is a linguistic reconstruction). Not accusing you of just making stuff up, but what sources are you pulling from here? Because as someone who's been obsessed with Gaelic/Celtic mythology for over a decade and adores studying the topic, this version of events is extremely unfamiliar to me. Maybe it's some more modern source?
@@gunjfur8633No we didn't. No archaeological evidence, tut tut. The west of Scotland had been Gaelic pre Christ along with what would later become Ireland. The East was Celtic Pictish, Scotlands geography allowed P celts and Q celts to live in relative isolation for a nearly a millenia. The Vikings later led to the Q and P Celts becoming one. It was ALBA or bust.
However, archaeologist Dr Ewan Campbell has argued that there is no archaeological or placename evidence of a migration or takeover. [4] This view of the medieval accounts is shared by other archaeologists and historians.[4] via Wikipedia origin of the Gaels. Archeology is the basis of History and can't be easily revised so easily. It is what it is
Why is the narrators speech so disjointed? I love this channel, but I find it really hard to listen to this kind of forced voice. At the very end, where he just speaks, it's SO much better. If I'm alone in feeling this, just say so.
This is a great video, but the pronunciations are atrocious. I'm sure someone would be willing to help you to pronounce any Irish words. Hopefully the pronunciations are better in the next few videos.
That's the point, they're not ancient words. For the most part they're words that are still in common usage today and even someone who's not a fluent speaker could tell him how to pronounce them. There's tons of Irish speakers that are more than happy to help people with this sort of thing, especially on twitter. The myths and legends podcast got their pronunciation sorted, here's hoping extra credits can as well!
@@danielreick9904 They aren't, but in a korean mmo by Nexon, Tir Na Nog is the place you are looking for in generation 1. You are searching for Goddess Morrighan, but you are thwarted by Cichol via Morgant. By the end of the main storyline, you basically ganked Morrighan, shoved a spear through Naudha, and gave most of the Danu a middle finger. At this point of the story, you and a kid decide that religious freedom was best and decided to open up the borders so that other gods can invade Ireland. The reason you probably don't hear much of Tuatha De and Tir Na Nog together is that Tir Na Nog is the realm in which they lived in. A separate plane of existence from the mortals.
Guys, I'm trying to make subtitles for my brazilian buddies, and I can't understand clearly what Matthew says at 2:12 I hear it like "Some say they came in a dark cloud, from origins unknown, and ******* at a mountaintop." Can anyone help? Btw, James, Matthew, Joseph, great video as always. From the beginning of this series I was hoping you would talk about gaelic mythology
Is this intended as a reconstruction? Brigid was not likely to be one of the first of the Tutha. More likely it was Morrigan who’s name means “great queen” or Eru who Ireland was named after. Brigid actually has a pretty small role in the Lebor Gabala Erinn
@@pokedude900 I've looked it up, the red javelin (in the original myth) is Lugh's Spear. The original Gae Bolg did not have any enchantment that made it always hit its mark; its special gimmick was that it could only be used under very specific conditions (according to some sources), and it would grow thirty long barbs while inside its victim upon meeting its mark when thrown.
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@extra credits please do Indian mythology
Could you guys do Central Asian mythology? Or San/Bushman mythology? Or Mississippians?
Awesome you're going with Celtic mythology.
I understand if you don't speak Irish, so here's a really cool website that has audio examples for many Irish words:
www.teanglann.ie/ga/fuaim/f%C3%A1il
I am delighted you decided to tackle this topic! Thank you!
But if you are going to be covering Gaelic myths, it would be useful for you to check out a pronounciation guide for Gaelic words. It is a bit complicated, but the basics are not too hard to pick up.
Sorry to be like that, but it is like nails on a chalkboard to me!
Aztec mythology would be nice
Its really entertaining to see how the artists try to depict arm dismemberment in an art style that has no arms.
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Remind me of the arcade game R-type.
it does give kind of medieval warfare mixed with rayman feel to me
TELL ME ABOUT IT.
Homestarrunner just hasn't been the same since that incident with the woodchipper.
The Children of the Danu and Firbolg gave each other equipment, decided on set army sizes, and set strict rules for their battle. Was it actually a battle, or was it just an unusually violent sport?
Timothy McLean
Honestly, a sport....
Mayhaps they were one and the same
Probably the latter.
We have the sport hurling which was once a way to train warriors for combat so it is probably based on this sport
What it really blow my mind is that they totally agreed to do all that stuff... but they could not peafully agree how they could divide the land first.
“I got a sword!”
“I got a javelin!”
“I got a cauldron!”
“...I got a rock.”
It’s a singing rock... ok its still lame
Hey that rock was busting out some tastey jams my friend!
@@BenWatton92 Basically they made an Alexa.
*gasp* its a TALKING ROCK
Does it talk though? I thought it just screamed because someone was stepping on it.
Making weapons for your enemies? That actually sounds A LOT like warfare today.
Sounds slightly nicer than today fighting. Which never seems to end yet even though it looks like war its not a war.
Ironic, ain't it?
@Hesusio Profit is the new honor
War ... War never changes
@@PangolinMontanari honor my drilling rights!
**Takes notes for next D&D campaign**
calar8 i need to be apart of this campaign
With Firbolgs as Fir Bolgs? Also the second video mentions Firmorians. I'm starting to think all giantkin are all Irish.
Omg yessss
same
I'm currently working on a world that includes all the big mythologies, so yes, this comes in very handy!
" We got the greatest sword! "
" We got a spear that acts like a heat seeking missile! "
" We got a cauldron that never empties! "
" We got a rock that screams. "
A rock that screams as a sign of a true ruler. Basically excalirock
@@quitkid8727 ah yes rock + escapleper
@@matthewdoherty803
Rock + Excalibur
Oh
Yeah
Local deity says "That land is your destiny".
Chosen people: "Thanks. Oh, someone lives there already."
Deity: "Whatever."
Where have we heard this before?
History repeats itself far to often.
Israel
@@drg.naufal
Keep going. There's a prize for anyone who can list all of them alphabetically.
@@Autists-Guide United States of America
History is mostly taking and conquering others land it was normal back then.
*mentions a Red Spear never missing its target*
Cú Chulainn: Your heart is mine! Gáe Bolg!
It's pretty interesting, because it sounds like this is quite clearly the inspiration for Gae Bolg's ability in Fate. The Gae Bolg of legend doesn't have that ability, but rather the ability to shoot barbs into the body of the victim.
The Gae Bolg was a very different weapon. You had to kick it at an enemy, and when it impaled them it sprouted thorns/barbs and basically turned them into a thorn bush with skin.
so you've dodge my undodgeable spear !
So its Gae bolg alternative then
@@lemonlime8635 yeah the accurate one is gae bolg alternative, And gae bolg from extra universe
Celtic Mythology is underrated
This
Yeah I hate how Norse and Greek get all the attention.
@@deathcamz389 greek gets attention i think mainiy because modern media and because the greeks wrote everything down and norse i think just because marvel thor comics other than that i dont know
@@deathcamz389 There are so many mythologies that it's impossible to represent them all. Han mythology, Yamato, Mongol, Turkic, Siberian, Dene, Quechua, Maya, Inca, Benin, Nigerian, Basque, Roman, Persian, Arab, Polynesian etc.
Seeing Nuada with an actual arm is pretty weird ^^
Wolfsgeist Especially as he only has one.
its like Micky mouse without gloves
"and so the gods gave him... an arm, the first arm, the only arm in the world"
no u
I love how you can find aspects common with norse mythology. A cosmic life giving tree, a great war between two clans, a race of ancient beings who seem to predate the gods in the mythos...
I love how these common motifs can be found throughout indo-european mythologies
á makes an 'aw' sound. Mate you are travelling into some dangerous waters here. But thank you
Is that even constant between all the varied dialects? Does that rule ever get broken?
In Ulster Irish, it's pronounced 'ah'
Thanks I was cringing through the video. I'm Irish btw
@@matthewmccallion3311 Ulster Irish? Oh dear. Let's hope this comment section isn't flooded by a bunch of Unionist and Republicans in their neverending blood feud.
@@kevinrenamoran9262 he's representing our myths give him a break, or you know make your own perfect video.
This version of pre-Christian Irish comogony is actually quite a late invention, as no extant cosmogenic narrative exists, as every text or manuscript was written after Christianty had took a strong foothold, and the litterati were mostly monks. This particular version, where Bile and Danu are the primordial "parents" of the Tuatha de Danann, and An Dagda and Brigid are siblings (and not father daughter) are also a bit mixed about, though again typically later material owing to Victorian codification, rather than being reflective of pre-Christian worldview...
Im actually really curious what texts you used to make these videos? This sounds like P. B. Ellis's version, in which case very recent.
Actually it seems to me a LOT like sumerian myths.
Particularly the things about their people coming from a place with cities near a river, each city having a treasure and one of them having a king's right of rule, magic rock.
Yeah, I want to know the texts used too. I'm pretty familiar with the historical versions of the myths found in books like the Lebor Gabala Erenn, and many of the retellings or variations from the Celtic Revival in the Victorian era(as well as collected accounts of Irish/Gaelic folklore from the era), and I've never really heard this version before.
The beginning sounds like by Ella Young (1867 - 1956) to me, she was known for fictionalising accounts of Irish myth and unfortunately not being clear that they were fiction! The rest seems straight out of The First Battle of Cath Maige Tuired, itself written 100s of years after The Battle of Caith Maige Tuired, retroactively creating a prequel to fit it in with the invasion schemes developed in the 11th century as part of the Lenora Gabála Érenn texts! Layers on layers on layers...
Does there exist a sourcebook where all the various versions surviving into early christianity are compiled?
There actually aren't any really... owing primarily to the cosmogenic narrative needing to fit into a Christian cosmology. There are easentially bits and pieces, some scholars have made a case for stories like "The Second Battle of Moytura" having some cosmogenic and eschatologicial significance, but its primarily speculative. Otherwise you have "micro-cosmogonies" in tales about the formation of specific geographic features.
All of the cosmogenic myths floating out there are modern creations, be it the one featured here by P.B. Ellis, or the older "Earth Shapers" by Ella Young (which can he found in "Celtic Wonder Tales").
You can find some general perspectives about the topic here, www.tairis.co.uk/cosmology/creation-myths
Moar gaelic mythology, THIS IS AWESOME
Our mythology is easily the most metal mythology on the planet. Thor wishes he were this badass.
@@obradinn7491 agreed. But I don't like the word Gaelic, cos that's what the Americans keep calling the Irish language
@Сёма Маликов I know
@@andrewduggan9525 well it is a gaelic language
you mean garlic language
Ohhhh please cover Fionn mac Cumhail (Finn MacCool)
isnt that just the best name to give someone?
Yes the low 5 tier 4star lancer
How the hell does Mac Cumhail read as MacCool?
@@fireline4765 fgo a game from. Japanese company, spelled his name as mccool/maccool
Cool video. Mythology always delivers, i just love it. Please do the Turkish mythology too, you'd be surprised how awesome it is.
We r Muslim now tho,what is the point
SMASH PAD what do you mean
SMASH PAD And the Irish are Christian now, yet we still delight in their myths. It’s not like we can’t study people’s folklore just because they’ve changed religions.
@@ibrahimchaudry3071, and greek and roman(italian) are christian now, what is your point, I also don't think I need to explain mine.
Yeah, you've got a point there. I meant don't forget the turks are a branch of the same people that would later make their mark on the asian steppes like the mongols, the xiognu ( the huns?) and the rouran peoples and then i some.
"When they arrived, they burned their ships."
Are they... Are they Rhoynar? Well at least now i know where the Dorne and Nymeria story came from.
Dilay Aydoğdu There's another version where the Tuatha Dé Dannan (what these guys call "the children of Danu"; it more properly translates to "the God-people/nation of Danu") arrive on a flying ship and abandon it at the top of a mountain
@@Cancoillotteman Haha, that too!
Yeah pretty sure this might have been the inspiration, there's also the river parallel, the Rhoyn vs the Danu
@@rafaeldelimacampos4524 Yeah, Tariq Bin Ziyad did that too when he was conquering Spain.
Another game of thrones connection. Take Ireland, turn it upside down, add the north and the Dornish penninsula and you have Westeros. It's remarkably obvious once you notice it, even down to the location of some mountain ranges, rivers and cities.
Glad to see Celtic mythology, I was actually named after a character in one. :)
Cairill, is your name Finn?
1:11 Actually, I read that the sword was called Claiomh Solais. the Sword of Light, which was owned by Nuada. And the spear was the Spear of Lugh
Question but are the children of the danu gods ? Or is the fir bog humans ?
Airgetlam? Goddamnit Paolini.
I thought I was the only one who saw that xD
I'm glad to meet another man of culture on the interwebs.
So there's more of us then
He must have taken inspiration from the story or at least the language.
Anyone else see Nuada and instantly go "Nasuada?"
So, does Winter Soldier have celtic origins?
Or this is really Cyberpunk lore and this is the origins of Johnny Silverhand
Born American. Bucky is short for Buchanan, which is Scottish, while Barnes could be Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, or possibly Irish if it's an Anglicised version of O'Bearain - "Son of Bearan".
Well, going by the comics both Cap and Bucky descend from Irish immigrants, so... yeah.
I kinda want something along the lines of Winter Soldier's origin story to happen in this culture's mythology. Even better is if that person used to be some whim or a healer as long as they didn't know how to fight before they were reforged into their enemy's minion. Is that creepy?
Roxy Cempron ikr!!
Bucky not being the next Captain America could possibly be explained by the fact that he isn’t a whole man just like Nuada!!
All I really know of Dagda is that he is apparently the “good god” as in he’s good at everything
Half my family is from Ireland and I’ve heard all theses myths so many times because my mom wanted me to know them they are amazing stories
Looks like he couldn’t beat the weapon triangle, huh.
2:37 *PUMAT SOL*
Great vid. but... since you titled it Celtic myths and not Irish myths,... I really hope you aren't confusing the two as being synonymous and going to get into some, say, Scottish and Welsh mythology too.
4:27 bucky?? Is that you???
Enter Lugh Lahmfada and Balor of the Evil Eye! Can't wait for the next one!
ikr!
4:32 full-metal Nuada Airgetlam
Cauldron of Plenty is the best artifact, imo 🤣
This is what we call organized warfare...
The most important thing I got from this is that Airgetlam is not just a made up word in the Eragon series xD
Hand is actually lamh not lam
That's interesting, I've always thought one of Irish mythology's charms was its lack of a creation myth. I think people are so used to there being a creation story they just feel obliged to wedge one in. I personally like the 'this land has always been here' approach.
From the back and forth, to the fighting of champions, to the divines saving their champions, it’s amazing the striking similarities between this tale and the Iliad
Irish speaker here, you pronounced the first part of inis fail right however the second part is sounds more like fall love the content nonetheless you guys r awesome
so pillar men when???
There's a lot of stuff here that's from modern (as in 20th century in some cases) re-imaginings of the myths rather than from what has been found in the older records.
lol gaylick mythology
Original term was goidelic, but pronounciation of the language changed over time. If you find that funny then wait until you say the words gate, gale and gainsaid out loud.
Do the legend of Cu Chulainn the badass Irish Hercules.
Also: Lansa ga shinda.
This is like your run of the mill blockbuster movie xD
I wonder if you guys will talk about the Spear of Ireland, the Child of Light, the Kenny of Fate Stay Night and most famous Lancer, Cu Chulainn.
Plot twist: the rock of destiny is just a caveman alexa
I got into Irish mythology through Koei's Celtic Tales: Balor of the Evil Eye.
Slightly misleading title ngl. I expected more than just Ireland tbh.
Ireland has the most manuscripts relating to "Celtic" themes. If you want more, all you will get is the Welsh Mabinogi and a few Scottish folktales.
Should do a story of St Dwynwen, patron saint of lovers....shout out to all us Welshies here 🏴🏴🏴
Excellent show. Very good pronunciation.
Lean into the U a bit on Lugh. It usually denotes someone with big ears, or who's lost an ear 😊
And he was called edward elric the Full metal alchemist.
Get it? Cause he had a metal arm too... Nevermind
Gellért Horváth Ed also has a metal leg, though.
@@TheFirstAifos true dat
/Winter soldier.
Gellért Horváth no, no, that was funny
Thank u so much.... I was looking for it
It's not "Fail" as in, well, "fail". The little line above the "a" drags out the letter. Basically it's more like "Inis Fawl."
Also, "Daghda" is not "Dagda". The "gh" is silent
Irish had at least 5 different dialects, there is no right way to say these words.
@@SirAroace The fada thing is pretty consistent. Either way "Inis Fayl" is definitely not correct.
@@SirAroace Irish is still a spoken language, and there is no dialect where that is the correct pronounciation.
So it’s literally the "dada" in your dialect of Celtic...
@@yaumelepire6310 Ugh, yeah it is. That's kinda why I pointed it out. Also where I'm from we just call it Irish. Some people call it Gaelic. Celtic is definitely completely wrong
If you dropped the stone of destiny on your foot, would it shout In happiness?
4:35 Infinity War Flashbacks
Nordic mithology please
A silver arm named Arigetlam? Bedi, is that you?
Airgeadh Lámh is literally silver arm in Irish.
Merlin has no original ideas
Bedi who?
@@gunjfur8633 he means bedivere from fgo, in d game, merlin modified excalibur to be a fake prosthetic arm for him and he called it airgetlam
He was lent it actually.
This RPG game's great! Too bad we only get 2 chapters as if we got a beta, when this looks like the FULL RELEASE!
And from the Fir bolg or Conacht will one day rise a Queen whose thirst for men could never be sated :p
pablo donner Men and cattle
Naa the hat has to go . Switch it to flannel shirts an wool ear flap red , and black hats bam ! Bingo ! Smiling styling an profiling.
So that's where Blizzard got their Silver Hand idea from.
Congratulations mate. Am very impressed with your pronunciation of Gaeilge. As an Irish language teacher and amateur historian/folklorist, I recognise how difficult it is, even for us Irish. So, well done and thanks for giving us this great rendition of the rise of the Tuatha de Danaan. (Would love to see you tackle of my username- sake, Tuathal Techmare.
4:23 Wait, this isn't Celtic mythology, this is Cyberpunk lore and the origins of Johnny Silverhand
It can be two things
For me it sounds more like the Tale of the Túatha De. :D
When they severe and arm that never existed...
Obligatory Fate reference
Please continue with celtic myths I love it.
Nice!
Toci ar la
Celtic is not just Ireland!!! What about the other Celtic nations? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
britanny
Very little survives of Celtic mythology but if you're going to tell the story pick one source and stick with it. This is 4 different versions of the story all smooshed together and it doesn't make a lot of sense. But still great job on promoting Celtic culture and myth it is sadly dying out and needs to be preserved. Hopefully, videos like this will spark interest in others to further study and spread this myth tradition.
I'm begging you. Put the call out to people who speak the languages you are using and we'll. I promise.
and we'll (*save you some embarrassment). ;)
Whst was the point of that gentelmanly conduct before Bres came along if it was going to devolve into revenge, bitterness and anger? They would have been better off with just a regular battle but because they lost the single combat and then decoded to continue attacking the opposong army,it makes them look petty, dishonorable amd down-rite cowardly and disrespectful. (I guess the IRA and their cowardly murdering of citizens are inspired by their mythology and are probably Bres' scumbag, ancestors. What the IRA did was nothing more than horrid, disgusting, terrorism.)
The kings need to be perfect was supposed to be about magical ability, that his powers wouldn't ever be as good as they could be.
In Irish history (pre Norman) when a king was defeated and was Ment to be a king no longer they would cut off his nipples. A lovely culture right!
Woha, this is neat. I have little to no idea about celtic myth / Irish culture.
How cool is it that the name "Bridget" goes back that far?!?
Like, I almost automatically auto-complete "Bridget" to "Bridget Jones" at this point because of those damn movies. Those movies ruined that name for me.
Now, I at least have a cool factoid to sooth my burning hatred.
If the island is like the game, no thank you!
Nuada what now.
Paolini you hack😒
It’s kind of interesting regarding anthropological evidence regarding the origins of the celts in Ireland and scots. The celts supposedly migrated to Ireland from what is now known as Scotland. And the scots(who for simplicity will be forever called the scots) likely emigrated to Scotland hence the name around the same time as the celts moving to Ireland
DannL18 other way around. Parts of western Scotland during the time of roman occupation of Britain was settled by a Gaelic tribe from Ireland whom the Romans called the "Scotti".
The Gaelic celts probably came to Ireland from the Iberian peninsula and from Ireland settled the Isle of Man and Scotland. The Brythonic Celts on the other hand travelled further north on the continent of Europe before settling the south and Middle of Britain leading to what we now know as the Celtic nations of Wales Cornwall and Britanny.
@bbonner422 Main problem is that the celts were the primary tribe of middle, west and southern europe before the germanic and slawic spread all over. So some of the iberian connections should also count as celtic which makes this thrid of non-celts kinda celtic again, doesn't it?
Dungeons and Dragons anyone?
Inis Fáil is more like Foyle in pronunciation.
EDIT: too many pronunciation errors to count -_-
Tis to be expected when Americans try Irish. I appreciate their effort though
Not going to lie, the pronunciation is horrendous but its not the worst I've heard 😂
All Irish has a different dialect from county to county just remember that
@@yagalpollyy3721 Excuses excuses.
It's a mix of him not speaking the language and the fact that there are too many varied dialects for there to be a single proper pronunciation.
Anyone else Irish if so comment below as gaeilge
Stuck here in prison known as America
No prob in helping u chose
Is the Danu the Danube?
Yes my home!!!!!!!
looks like somebody's become a bit of a Seanchai
So this be the tale of the Jacksepticeye people
The people of Fearghal/Virgil of Salzburg, who advised the first Carolingian King on overthrowing the Merovingians as Kings. Basically, an Irishman helped you get the dynasty that produced Charlemagne the first Holy Roman Emperor. You are welcome.
thank you for doing the mythology from my grandmothers home Ireland
I know you sorta wriggled your way out of it with the whole "or so some say" bit, but I've literally never heard the version of events where Brighid and The Dagda are the first Tuatha De Danann and are sprung from an Oak Tree. The Dagda is a major character in Celtic Mythology and often presented as one of the most important amongst the Tuatha De Danann, but I don't know where you're getting the "he was the first" bit. Adding in Brighid is even more confusing, since well known for not playing much of a role in the mythology despite being so popular and influential both today and in the past(as opposed to, say, Manannan Mac Lir who has a tendency of popping up in a manner befitting a fairly widely-revered deity). Not to mention that she's typically described as the Dagda's daughter, not his sister.
I've also never heard Danu described as "the waters of heaven." In fact, I've only ever heard of her described as a potential mother goddess for the Tuatha De Danann who likely was associated with water. She also is never mentioned in any historical sources on the mythology, she's largely a historical reconstruction down to her name(which would more properly be written *Danu, to indicate that her name is not actually attested and is a linguistic reconstruction).
Not accusing you of just making stuff up, but what sources are you pulling from here? Because as someone who's been obsessed with Gaelic/Celtic mythology for over a decade and adores studying the topic, this version of events is extremely unfamiliar to me. Maybe it's some more modern source?
Gwen C definitely a dodgy source.
Wow, y'all just stumbled right into those pronunciations without any shame didn't you
Do Welsh and Scottish Celts too
The Scottish (& Manx) came originaly from Ireland.
Yes do Celtic not just Irish
@@gunjfur8633No we didn't. No archaeological evidence, tut tut. The west of Scotland had been Gaelic pre Christ along with what would later become Ireland. The East was Celtic Pictish, Scotlands geography allowed P celts and Q celts to live in relative isolation for a nearly a millenia. The Vikings later led to the Q and P Celts becoming one. It was ALBA or bust.
However, archaeologist Dr Ewan Campbell has argued that there is no archaeological or placename evidence of a migration or takeover. [4] This view of the medieval accounts is shared by other archaeologists and historians.[4] via Wikipedia origin of the Gaels. Archeology is the basis of History and can't be easily revised so easily. It is what it is
+Gunjα Fury the scots are a mix of Irish and Egyptian, an Irish and Egyptian princess
Why is the narrators speech so disjointed? I love this channel, but I find it really hard to listen to this kind of forced voice. At the very end, where he just speaks, it's SO much better. If I'm alone in feeling this, just say so.
Korean mythology please, especially from the North. Talk about the Chollima, Mallima, and Pulgasari
The voting is done on patrion I think
Hey! You leave Bucky alone!
This is a great video, but the pronunciations are atrocious.
I'm sure someone would be willing to help you to pronounce any Irish words.
Hopefully the pronunciations are better in the next few videos.
Kinda hard to speak a half dead language with 5 different dialects.
@@jarednunes3263 Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Oops, wrong video...
@No Show Well, there are a lot of Irish people that would be willing to help him pronounce stuff.
That's the point, they're not ancient words. For the most part they're words that are still in common usage today and even someone who's not a fluent speaker could tell him how to pronounce them. There's tons of Irish speakers that are more than happy to help people with this sort of thing, especially on twitter. The myths and legends podcast got their pronunciation sorted, here's hoping extra credits can as well!
@@jarednunes3263 what are you saying dead language these are the type of words irish people use
Any gingers here who were like SCOTLAND F O R E V E R
Tir Na Nog!
@@yagalpollyy3721 It's their mystical realm, it counts.
Tell that to Mabinogi. The game uses the gods of Irish mythology, and tir na nog as a mcguffin or a goal.
I never heard that the Túatha Dé were related to Tír Na Nóg but ok. :)
@@danielreick9904 They aren't, but in a korean mmo by Nexon, Tir Na Nog is the place you are looking for in generation 1. You are searching for Goddess Morrighan, but you are thwarted by Cichol via Morgant. By the end of the main storyline, you basically ganked Morrighan, shoved a spear through Naudha, and gave most of the Danu a middle finger. At this point of the story, you and a kid decide that religious freedom was best and decided to open up the borders so that other gods can invade Ireland. The reason you probably don't hear much of Tuatha De and Tir Na Nog together is that Tir Na Nog is the realm in which they lived in. A separate plane of existence from the mortals.
@@morganrobinson8042 It is indeed the mythical realm of Ireland. The confusion is probably due to the game by Nexon.
Guys, I'm trying to make subtitles for my brazilian buddies, and I can't understand clearly what Matthew says at 2:12
I hear it like "Some say they came in a dark cloud, from origins unknown, and ******* at a mountaintop."
Can anyone help?
Btw, James, Matthew, Joseph, great video as always. From the beginning of this series I was hoping you would talk about gaelic mythology
Éireann go brách! 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Does any one speak beer?
@@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem what do you mean
Cé a bhfuil tú inniu
Damn it it seems no one here speaks beer
Is this intended as a reconstruction? Brigid was not likely to be one of the first of the Tutha. More likely it was Morrigan who’s name means “great queen” or Eru who Ireland was named after. Brigid actually has a pretty small role in the Lebor Gabala Erinn
Time for my country to hog the spotlight!
Oirland
Any Fate fans around here?
danyalillo hello!
Hello there! What was the Fate reference here? I think I missed it.
The red javelin was Cu Chulainn's Gae Bolg.
@@pokedude900 I've looked it up, the red javelin (in the original myth) is Lugh's Spear. The original Gae Bolg did not have any enchantment that made it always hit its mark; its special gimmick was that it could only be used under very specific conditions (according to some sources), and it would grow thirty long barbs while inside its victim upon meeting its mark when thrown.
Okay, who chooses Connacht out of all the provinces?
It really didn't pay off long term guys.