The Isle of Destiny - Celtic Myth - Extra Mythology - Part 1
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Inis Fáil is the Isle of Destiny, in Ireland. It was here that the Children of the Danu were sent on a quest to find their destiny, but they would have to encounter the Fir Bolg first...
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@extra credits please do Indian mythology
Could you guys do Central Asian mythology? Or San/Bushman mythology? Or Mississippians?
Awesome you're going with Celtic mythology.
I understand if you don't speak Irish, so here's a really cool website that has audio examples for many Irish words:
www.teanglann.ie/ga/fuaim/f%C3%A1il
I am delighted you decided to tackle this topic! Thank you!
But if you are going to be covering Gaelic myths, it would be useful for you to check out a pronounciation guide for Gaelic words. It is a bit complicated, but the basics are not too hard to pick up.
Sorry to be like that, but it is like nails on a chalkboard to me!
Aztec mythology would be nice
Its really entertaining to see how the artists try to depict arm dismemberment in an art style that has no arms.
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Remind me of the arcade game R-type.
it does give kind of medieval warfare mixed with rayman feel to me
TELL ME ABOUT IT.
Homestarrunner just hasn't been the same since that incident with the woodchipper.
“I got a sword!”
“I got a javelin!”
“I got a cauldron!”
“...I got a rock.”
It’s a singing rock... ok its still lame
Hey that rock was busting out some tastey jams my friend!
@@BenWatton92 Basically they made an Alexa.
*gasp* its a TALKING ROCK
Does it talk though? I thought it just screamed because someone was stepping on it.
" We got the greatest sword! "
" We got a spear that acts like a heat seeking missile! "
" We got a cauldron that never empties! "
" We got a rock that screams. "
A rock that screams as a sign of a true ruler. Basically excalirock
@@quitkid8727 ah yes rock + escapleper
@@matthewdoherty803
Rock + Excalibur
Oh
Yeah
**Takes notes for next D&D campaign**
calar8 i need to be apart of this campaign
With Firbolgs as Fir Bolgs? Also the second video mentions Firmorians. I'm starting to think all giantkin are all Irish.
Omg yessss
same
I'm currently working on a world that includes all the big mythologies, so yes, this comes in very handy!
Making weapons for your enemies? That actually sounds A LOT like warfare today.
Sounds slightly nicer than today fighting. Which never seems to end yet even though it looks like war its not a war.
Ironic, ain't it?
@Hesusio Profit is the new honor
War ... War never changes
@@PangolinMontanari honor my drilling rights!
The Children of the Danu and Firbolg gave each other equipment, decided on set army sizes, and set strict rules for their battle. Was it actually a battle, or was it just an unusually violent sport?
Timothy McLean
Honestly, a sport....
Mayhaps they were one and the same
Probably the latter.
We have the sport hurling which was once a way to train warriors for combat so it is probably based on this sport
What it really blow my mind is that they totally agreed to do all that stuff... but they could not peafully agree how they could divide the land first.
Local deity says "That land is your destiny".
Chosen people: "Thanks. Oh, someone lives there already."
Deity: "Whatever."
Where have we heard this before?
History repeats itself far to often.
Israel
@@drg.naufal
Keep going. There's a prize for anyone who can list all of them alphabetically.
@@Autists-Guide United States of America
History is mostly taking and conquering others land it was normal back then.
*mentions a Red Spear never missing its target*
Cú Chulainn: Your heart is mine! Gáe Bolg!
It's pretty interesting, because it sounds like this is quite clearly the inspiration for Gae Bolg's ability in Fate. The Gae Bolg of legend doesn't have that ability, but rather the ability to shoot barbs into the body of the victim.
The Gae Bolg was a very different weapon. You had to kick it at an enemy, and when it impaled them it sprouted thorns/barbs and basically turned them into a thorn bush with skin.
so you've dodge my undodgeable spear !
So its Gae bolg alternative then
@@lemonlime8635 yeah the accurate one is gae bolg alternative, And gae bolg from extra universe
Celtic Mythology is underrated
This
Yeah I hate how Norse and Greek get all the attention.
@@deathcamz389 greek gets attention i think mainiy because modern media and because the greeks wrote everything down and norse i think just because marvel thor comics other than that i dont know
@@deathcamz389 There are so many mythologies that it's impossible to represent them all. Han mythology, Yamato, Mongol, Turkic, Siberian, Dene, Quechua, Maya, Inca, Benin, Nigerian, Basque, Roman, Persian, Arab, Polynesian etc.
Seeing Nuada with an actual arm is pretty weird ^^
Wolfsgeist Especially as he only has one.
its like Micky mouse without gloves
"and so the gods gave him... an arm, the first arm, the only arm in the world"
no u
á makes an 'aw' sound. Mate you are travelling into some dangerous waters here. But thank you
Is that even constant between all the varied dialects? Does that rule ever get broken?
In Ulster Irish, it's pronounced 'ah'
Thanks I was cringing through the video. I'm Irish btw
@@matthewmccallion3311 Ulster Irish? Oh dear. Let's hope this comment section isn't flooded by a bunch of Unionist and Republicans in their neverending blood feud.
@@kevinrenamoran9262 he's representing our myths give him a break, or you know make your own perfect video.
Moar gaelic mythology, THIS IS AWESOME
Our mythology is easily the most metal mythology on the planet. Thor wishes he were this badass.
@@obradinn7491 agreed. But I don't like the word Gaelic, cos that's what the Americans keep calling the Irish language
@Сёма Маликов I know
@@andrewduggan9525 well it is a gaelic language
you mean garlic language
I love how you can find aspects common with norse mythology. A cosmic life giving tree, a great war between two clans, a race of ancient beings who seem to predate the gods in the mythos...
I love how these common motifs can be found throughout indo-european mythologies
"When they arrived, they burned their ships."
Are they... Are they Rhoynar? Well at least now i know where the Dorne and Nymeria story came from.
Dilay Aydoğdu There's another version where the Tuatha Dé Dannan (what these guys call "the children of Danu"; it more properly translates to "the God-people/nation of Danu") arrive on a flying ship and abandon it at the top of a mountain
@@Cancoillotteman Haha, that too!
Yeah pretty sure this might have been the inspiration, there's also the river parallel, the Rhoyn vs the Danu
@@rafaeldelimacampos4524 Yeah, Tariq Bin Ziyad did that too when he was conquering Spain.
Another game of thrones connection. Take Ireland, turn it upside down, add the north and the Dornish penninsula and you have Westeros. It's remarkably obvious once you notice it, even down to the location of some mountain ranges, rivers and cities.
This version of pre-Christian Irish comogony is actually quite a late invention, as no extant cosmogenic narrative exists, as every text or manuscript was written after Christianty had took a strong foothold, and the litterati were mostly monks. This particular version, where Bile and Danu are the primordial "parents" of the Tuatha de Danann, and An Dagda and Brigid are siblings (and not father daughter) are also a bit mixed about, though again typically later material owing to Victorian codification, rather than being reflective of pre-Christian worldview...
Im actually really curious what texts you used to make these videos? This sounds like P. B. Ellis's version, in which case very recent.
Actually it seems to me a LOT like sumerian myths.
Particularly the things about their people coming from a place with cities near a river, each city having a treasure and one of them having a king's right of rule, magic rock.
Yeah, I want to know the texts used too. I'm pretty familiar with the historical versions of the myths found in books like the Lebor Gabala Erenn, and many of the retellings or variations from the Celtic Revival in the Victorian era(as well as collected accounts of Irish/Gaelic folklore from the era), and I've never really heard this version before.
The beginning sounds like by Ella Young (1867 - 1956) to me, she was known for fictionalising accounts of Irish myth and unfortunately not being clear that they were fiction! The rest seems straight out of The First Battle of Cath Maige Tuired, itself written 100s of years after The Battle of Caith Maige Tuired, retroactively creating a prequel to fit it in with the invasion schemes developed in the 11th century as part of the Lenora Gabála Érenn texts! Layers on layers on layers...
Does there exist a sourcebook where all the various versions surviving into early christianity are compiled?
There actually aren't any really... owing primarily to the cosmogenic narrative needing to fit into a Christian cosmology. There are easentially bits and pieces, some scholars have made a case for stories like "The Second Battle of Moytura" having some cosmogenic and eschatologicial significance, but its primarily speculative. Otherwise you have "micro-cosmogonies" in tales about the formation of specific geographic features.
All of the cosmogenic myths floating out there are modern creations, be it the one featured here by P.B. Ellis, or the older "Earth Shapers" by Ella Young (which can he found in "Celtic Wonder Tales").
You can find some general perspectives about the topic here, www.tairis.co.uk/cosmology/creation-myths
Great vid. but... since you titled it Celtic myths and not Irish myths,... I really hope you aren't confusing the two as being synonymous and going to get into some, say, Scottish and Welsh mythology too.
Glad to see Celtic mythology, I was actually named after a character in one. :)
Cairill, is your name Finn?
Airgetlam? Goddamnit Paolini.
I thought I was the only one who saw that xD
I'm glad to meet another man of culture on the interwebs.
So there's more of us then
He must have taken inspiration from the story or at least the language.
Anyone else see Nuada and instantly go "Nasuada?"
Cool video. Mythology always delivers, i just love it. Please do the Turkish mythology too, you'd be surprised how awesome it is.
We r Muslim now tho,what is the point
SMASH PAD what do you mean
SMASH PAD And the Irish are Christian now, yet we still delight in their myths. It’s not like we can’t study people’s folklore just because they’ve changed religions.
@@ibrahimchaudry3071, and greek and roman(italian) are christian now, what is your point, I also don't think I need to explain mine.
Yeah, you've got a point there. I meant don't forget the turks are a branch of the same people that would later make their mark on the asian steppes like the mongols, the xiognu ( the huns?) and the rouran peoples and then i some.
1:11 Actually, I read that the sword was called Claiomh Solais. the Sword of Light, which was owned by Nuada. And the spear was the Spear of Lugh
Question but are the children of the danu gods ? Or is the fir bog humans ?
Ohhhh please cover Fionn mac Cumhail (Finn MacCool)
isnt that just the best name to give someone?
Yes the low 5 tier 4star lancer
How the hell does Mac Cumhail read as MacCool?
@@fireline4765 fgo a game from. Japanese company, spelled his name as mccool/maccool
So, does Winter Soldier have celtic origins?
Or this is really Cyberpunk lore and this is the origins of Johnny Silverhand
Born American. Bucky is short for Buchanan, which is Scottish, while Barnes could be Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, or possibly Irish if it's an Anglicised version of O'Bearain - "Son of Bearan".
Well, going by the comics both Cap and Bucky descend from Irish immigrants, so... yeah.
I kinda want something along the lines of Winter Soldier's origin story to happen in this culture's mythology. Even better is if that person used to be some whim or a healer as long as they didn't know how to fight before they were reforged into their enemy's minion. Is that creepy?
Roxy Cempron ikr!!
Bucky not being the next Captain America could possibly be explained by the fact that he isn’t a whole man just like Nuada!!
Looks like he couldn’t beat the weapon triangle, huh.
All I really know of Dagda is that he is apparently the “good god” as in he’s good at everything
Cauldron of Plenty is the best artifact, imo 🤣
The most important thing I got from this is that Airgetlam is not just a made up word in the Eragon series xD
Thanks for putting a spotlight on Celtic myths, I truly appreciate it :)
I wish these were longer, these episodes are so good I can't wait for the next one.
Enter Lugh Lahmfada and Balor of the Evil Eye! Can't wait for the next one!
ikr!
Irish speaker here, you pronounced the first part of inis fail right however the second part is sounds more like fall love the content nonetheless you guys r awesome
First Extra mythology video I watched, and I was not disappointed, I rather enjoyed it. I hope in the future you guys get a chance to make a video on Slabic mythology, it is very oberlooked yet it has vatious interesting Gods and myths with it. Keep up the great videos!
I'm..just wow...you people actually told the story correctly more or less. no content creator/book(same thing) ever does that. If I wore a hat, I would tip it to you. this is honestly amazing. good job
Do the legend of Cu Chulainn the badass Irish Hercules.
Also: Lansa ga shinda.
And he was called edward elric the Full metal alchemist.
Get it? Cause he had a metal arm too... Nevermind
Gellért Horváth Ed also has a metal leg, though.
@@TheFirstAifos true dat
/Winter soldier.
Gellért Horváth no, no, that was funny
Holy cow. Writing a Celtic-based gamelit RIGHT NOW and just happened to open up Extra Credits on TH-cam. Best and most helpful distraction ever :). Thanks for more research!
Nathan Thompson careful. Some of this (especially the start) is from dodgy 20th/21st century source material... Most of it is good though. Pronunciation is rubbish... If they let me help them I will...
Great episode. I heard this story through my cultural heritage studies course. There is some great ancient irish tales but alot id say most of it is lost to antiquity!. Keep up the good work lads!
That's interesting, I've always thought one of Irish mythology's charms was its lack of a creation myth. I think people are so used to there being a creation story they just feel obliged to wedge one in. I personally like the 'this land has always been here' approach.
A silver arm named Arigetlam? Bedi, is that you?
Airgeadh Lámh is literally silver arm in Irish.
Merlin has no original ideas
Bedi who?
@@gunjfur8633 he means bedivere from fgo, in d game, merlin modified excalibur to be a fake prosthetic arm for him and he called it airgetlam
He was lent it actually.
Its really cool how you can make everything interesting and I enjoy every video thanks for making these videos
Ooh, it's awesome to be hearing some of my heritage this time. Love Extra History and Extra Mythology!
It's not "Fail" as in, well, "fail". The little line above the "a" drags out the letter. Basically it's more like "Inis Fawl."
Also, "Daghda" is not "Dagda". The "gh" is silent
Irish had at least 5 different dialects, there is no right way to say these words.
@@SirAroace The fada thing is pretty consistent. Either way "Inis Fayl" is definitely not correct.
@@SirAroace Irish is still a spoken language, and there is no dialect where that is the correct pronounciation.
So it’s literally the "dada" in your dialect of Celtic...
@@yaumelepire6310 Ugh, yeah it is. That's kinda why I pointed it out. Also where I'm from we just call it Irish. Some people call it Gaelic. Celtic is definitely completely wrong
There's a lot of stuff here that's from modern (as in 20th century in some cases) re-imaginings of the myths rather than from what has been found in the older records.
Celtic Mythology, among the Norse, the Greek, Mexican and Persian, are my favorites! Great Work and Marvelous Guys! Also the Drwaing is INCREDIBLE!
Wow I have never been so early to one of your videos before! Thank you so much for this amazing content!
Should do a story of St Dwynwen, patron saint of lovers....shout out to all us Welshies here 🏴🏴🏴
Nice!
This is awesome, I just picked up the Iron Druid Chronicles and it talks about all sorts of stuff you mentioned!
I love this Extra SMT series!
I wonder if you guys will talk about the Spear of Ireland, the Child of Light, the Kenny of Fate Stay Night and most famous Lancer, Cu Chulainn.
I got into Irish mythology through Koei's Celtic Tales: Balor of the Evil Eye.
I requested this in your announcement video! Yesssss!
Half my family is from Ireland and I’ve heard all theses myths so many times because my mom wanted me to know them they are amazing stories
And from the Fir bolg or Conacht will one day rise a Queen whose thirst for men could never be sated :p
pablo donner Men and cattle
4:35 Infinity War Flashbacks
I am waiting for part 2 with great anticipation.
Omg yesss I’m so excited for this!!
It’s kind of interesting regarding anthropological evidence regarding the origins of the celts in Ireland and scots. The celts supposedly migrated to Ireland from what is now known as Scotland. And the scots(who for simplicity will be forever called the scots) likely emigrated to Scotland hence the name around the same time as the celts moving to Ireland
DannL18 other way around. Parts of western Scotland during the time of roman occupation of Britain was settled by a Gaelic tribe from Ireland whom the Romans called the "Scotti".
The Gaelic celts probably came to Ireland from the Iberian peninsula and from Ireland settled the Isle of Man and Scotland. The Brythonic Celts on the other hand travelled further north on the continent of Europe before settling the south and Middle of Britain leading to what we now know as the Celtic nations of Wales Cornwall and Britanny.
@bbonner422 Main problem is that the celts were the primary tribe of middle, west and southern europe before the germanic and slawic spread all over. So some of the iberian connections should also count as celtic which makes this thrid of non-celts kinda celtic again, doesn't it?
So that's where Blizzard got their Silver Hand idea from.
Awesome!! Can't wait for the rest!
Hey man thanks for making this not having a good day today had to put my dog down today so just glad to see one of your videos
Yes my home!!!!!!!
4:23 Wait, this isn't Celtic mythology, this is Cyberpunk lore and the origins of Johnny Silverhand
It can be two things
For me it sounds more like the Tale of the Túatha De. :D
I love how they are doing myths now like more than usual. Especially how they explore more than one myths
I can't wait for the next part of this series of Celtic and Gaelic mythology
Obligatory Fate reference
Celtic is not just Ireland!!! What about the other Celtic nations? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
britanny
So pumped for some Celtic lore.
Wow this is so interesting and entertaining to watch. The style is really pleasing to look at, too; never knew no arms were pretty cool.
I'm begging you. Put the call out to people who speak the languages you are using and we'll. I promise.
and we'll (*save you some embarrassment). ;)
Please continue with celtic myths I love it.
Hi
I just watched your 6 videos about Genghis Khan
It was very easy to understand and very interesting to watch too. I am really amazed by your work.
Please keep on making video like this.
Inis Fáil is more like Foyle in pronunciation.
EDIT: too many pronunciation errors to count -_-
Tis to be expected when Americans try Irish. I appreciate their effort though
Not going to lie, the pronunciation is horrendous but its not the worst I've heard 😂
All Irish has a different dialect from county to county just remember that
@@yagalpollyy3721 Excuses excuses.
It's a mix of him not speaking the language and the fact that there are too many varied dialects for there to be a single proper pronunciation.
The kings need to be perfect was supposed to be about magical ability, that his powers wouldn't ever be as good as they could be.
In Irish history (pre Norman) when a king was defeated and was Ment to be a king no longer they would cut off his nipples. A lovely culture right!
really cool videos, I love mytology, I love Ireland and Celts in general, I would surely love this serie :D
I know most people thought of the Winter Soldier first, but I thought of Wormtail from 'Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire'. This puts so many stories, especially from around the area, into new focus. 🧐Thanks!
I know you sorta wriggled your way out of it with the whole "or so some say" bit, but I've literally never heard the version of events where Brighid and The Dagda are the first Tuatha De Danann and are sprung from an Oak Tree. The Dagda is a major character in Celtic Mythology and often presented as one of the most important amongst the Tuatha De Danann, but I don't know where you're getting the "he was the first" bit. Adding in Brighid is even more confusing, since well known for not playing much of a role in the mythology despite being so popular and influential both today and in the past(as opposed to, say, Manannan Mac Lir who has a tendency of popping up in a manner befitting a fairly widely-revered deity). Not to mention that she's typically described as the Dagda's daughter, not his sister.
I've also never heard Danu described as "the waters of heaven." In fact, I've only ever heard of her described as a potential mother goddess for the Tuatha De Danann who likely was associated with water. She also is never mentioned in any historical sources on the mythology, she's largely a historical reconstruction down to her name(which would more properly be written *Danu, to indicate that her name is not actually attested and is a linguistic reconstruction).
Not accusing you of just making stuff up, but what sources are you pulling from here? Because as someone who's been obsessed with Gaelic/Celtic mythology for over a decade and adores studying the topic, this version of events is extremely unfamiliar to me. Maybe it's some more modern source?
Gwen C definitely a dodgy source.
If the island is like the game, no thank you!
Plugging Tale Foundry's videos on this mythological cycle because they are AMAZING! Please give them a watch, that channel deserves more attention.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONEEEEE
No prob in helping u chose
Tir Na Nog!
@@yagalpollyy3721 It's their mystical realm, it counts.
Tell that to Mabinogi. The game uses the gods of Irish mythology, and tir na nog as a mcguffin or a goal.
I never heard that the Túatha Dé were related to Tír Na Nóg but ok. :)
@@danielreick9904 They aren't, but in a korean mmo by Nexon, Tir Na Nog is the place you are looking for in generation 1. You are searching for Goddess Morrighan, but you are thwarted by Cichol via Morgant. By the end of the main storyline, you basically ganked Morrighan, shoved a spear through Naudha, and gave most of the Danu a middle finger. At this point of the story, you and a kid decide that religious freedom was best and decided to open up the borders so that other gods can invade Ireland. The reason you probably don't hear much of Tuatha De and Tir Na Nog together is that Tir Na Nog is the realm in which they lived in. A separate plane of existence from the mortals.
@@morganrobinson8042 It is indeed the mythical realm of Ireland. The confusion is probably due to the game by Nexon.
Gaelic mythology is my favorite, im excited to see more
From the back and forth, to the fighting of champions, to the divines saving their champions, it’s amazing the striking similarities between this tale and the Iliad
So this be the tale of the Jacksepticeye people
The people of Fearghal/Virgil of Salzburg, who advised the first Carolingian King on overthrowing the Merovingians as Kings. Basically, an Irishman helped you get the dynasty that produced Charlemagne the first Holy Roman Emperor. You are welcome.
Éireann go brách! 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Does any one speak beer?
@@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem what do you mean
Cé a bhfuil tú inniu
Damn it it seems no one here speaks beer
That was really good! Even the pronunciations were spot on! 😃
Yo, these animations are getting considerably better.
Time for my country to hog the spotlight!
Do Welsh and Scottish Celts too
The Scottish (& Manx) came originaly from Ireland.
Yes do Celtic not just Irish
@@gunjfur8633No we didn't. No archaeological evidence, tut tut. The west of Scotland had been Gaelic pre Christ along with what would later become Ireland. The East was Celtic Pictish, Scotlands geography allowed P celts and Q celts to live in relative isolation for a nearly a millenia. The Vikings later led to the Q and P Celts becoming one. It was ALBA or bust.
However, archaeologist Dr Ewan Campbell has argued that there is no archaeological or placename evidence of a migration or takeover. [4] This view of the medieval accounts is shared by other archaeologists and historians.[4] via Wikipedia origin of the Gaels. Archeology is the basis of History and can't be easily revised so easily. It is what it is
+Gunjα Fury the scots are a mix of Irish and Egyptian, an Irish and Egyptian princess
I've been wanting to study this for so long
Thank u so much.... I was looking for it
Korean mythology please, especially from the North. Talk about the Chollima, Mallima, and Pulgasari
The voting is done on patrion I think
This is a great video, but the pronunciations are atrocious.
I'm sure someone would be willing to help you to pronounce any Irish words.
Hopefully the pronunciations are better in the next few videos.
Kinda hard to speak a half dead language with 5 different dialects.
@@jarednunes3263 Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Oops, wrong video...
@No Show Well, there are a lot of Irish people that would be willing to help him pronounce stuff.
That's the point, they're not ancient words. For the most part they're words that are still in common usage today and even someone who's not a fluent speaker could tell him how to pronounce them. There's tons of Irish speakers that are more than happy to help people with this sort of thing, especially on twitter. The myths and legends podcast got their pronunciation sorted, here's hoping extra credits can as well!
@@jarednunes3263 what are you saying dead language these are the type of words irish people use
Now that's how you tell a story! Awesome work. I'm curious what sources you used for this video, I need to do some research and I am having trouble finding sources.
It's cool to see someone talk about Nuada Airgetlam. The only time he gets mentioned in regular conversations is when talking about him being an influence for Nuada Silverlance in Hellboy 2.
OwO hello
Hey can you make a video about Battle of Kosovo, it’s very interesting and important in Serbian history
is that the battle that they mentioned in the first ep. of The Seminal Tragedy?
In my opinion, the cauldron is by far the most powerful and useful of the four artifacts as it basically is an unlimited food supply and removes the need for agriculture, hunting and foraging(except if they want some variety in their diet). You could have an entire city in the tens of thousands revolving around that cauldron to make sure that everyone gets three meals a day. In most pre-industrial agrarian societies, about 80-90% of the workforce is forced to become farmers to feed everyone. With that cauldron you free them up to become specialists, bureaucrats, soldiers, philosophers etc...
Peace Talks and Battle Ground make slightly more sense now. Thanks for that!