Victoria 3 | Gameplay Early Look w/ Game Director and Content Design Lead!
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- Claim your place in the sun in Victoria 3, a new grand strategy simulation from Paradox Interactive. Master politics, industry, trade, diplomacy and war in this revelatory time period between the 19th and 20th century. The Victorians promised a grand tomorrow based on science and industry. Now you get to build it.
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Starts at 7:37 and break ends at 1:49:00.
Hats off to you, good Sir!
You are a life saver
Thank you.
a true gentleman and a scholar
Thanks
I just imagine skilled British beuracrats hiking all the way from Hong Kong to Guizhou, avoiding Qing quartermasters on the way. But when they arrive all they do is hand out pamphlets reminding the people there that they are under British dominion.
Lol
-Jolly good morning lads! Here 'ave a pamphlet, god save the queen and all...
-But George, they can't read...
-oh bugger
@@laurensrodi9501 Reckon any of them lads could play fer Norf FC?
Probably written in the queens English too
I think that an unified italy should have different flags depending on who unites it. It's horrendous to see the savoy coat of arms in a duo-sicilian unified italy! Same for the other minors the can unify a country!
Imagine what a Papal-United Italy would look like...
@@callmefox630 it was a popular idea in the years leading up to ‘48. A lot of Italians believed unification should be federal under the leadership of the Papal States.
Poderia por obséquio falar em Português feito uma pessoa normal?
Gonna have to wait for a DLC for that probably. This is how Paradox games are, the iniital game at launch is much more of an early-access prototype than a finished game.
@@ariovistus1491 yes but if it was united all under the Two Sicilies reign or the Pope, it would not have had the Savoy coat of arms although it would be called Italy anyways.
Small suggestion - please display Radicals and Loyalists as a percent of the population rather than the number of individuals.
Or just make it an option like using pie charts or square charts
I like it the way it is.
Maybe hover over and see the %
both number and % are important, at least in some ways, if you have 100million people 1million radicals is still dangerous if you don't have a large military, but as 1% it could look meaningless. on the other hand % gives you a better quick understanding of the general anger of the population better.
Do it as a percentage of each strata. I'm assuming high strata pop are more powerful than low strata pops.
Please keep doing gameplay streams. The friendship between the staff really shows , it makes me love the game AND the team.
I'll second this
I Third This
Is there a next stream announced already?
I simply cannot understand what you're seeing. I'm looking forward to the game's release and I'm really interested in the content of this stream, but for me Martin's input, personality and presentation makes the stream literally unwatchable (I really tried, but I had to give up after about 25 minutes).
He just comes across as needy, arrogant and immature and regularly says things simply to be "one-up" on the others. I think he should be dropped; give us more of Daniel instead.
@@davereckoning9530 I get you. It’s just that I like the content to much. And I can cope with him.
Maybe for the "Revolt should get some of the gold reserve" you could tie that to legitimacy and the size of the revolt. (so small revolts dont get massive banks but illegitimate governments in civil wars lose a large amount of financial backing)
Vic 3 devs when fighting 3 civil wars over the same issue back to back:
"How many times do we have to teach you, old man?"
As for the daimyos argument in the beginning, unlike in the Muromachi period represented in EU4 for example, Japan was much more united under the rule (yoke?) of the Tokugawas during the Edo period due to a very long and bloody civil war that saw the Oda, then Toyotomi, then Tokugawa clans unify the country for the first time in the late 16th, beginning of the 17th Centuries. So I do think the "one Japan" depiction from Victoria is perfectly accurate, daimyos simply didn't have that much power or autonomy at that point.
I agree with that. Howewer, the political crisis caused by the foreign powers and inequal treaties forced on Japan (opening of Japan in 1853/4) changed all internal order (the Edo-era stability) upside-down.
@@paweszklarczyk2330 Yeah, but that's 20 years after game start, and I'm not sure internal unrest is a good reason to create a ton of subjects.
I could see someone making a reasonable argument that the tozama domains like Satsuma or Choushu could be represented fairly accurately as subjects; they still maintained a certain degree of independence, in practice if not always on paper. But unless it came with the mechanics and content to go with it I don't see that as really adding anything to the gameplay, and certainly the Tokugawa were far more centralized than a "typical" feudal system, so one Japan feels perfectly appropriate as well.
They're more unified until something unifies the clans against each other (Boshin War)
I think a federation DLC (which could be used to simulate the daimyos a little more) is def in order. I refuse to play the U.S or anything in the Americas for that matter till then
At ~30:20 you guys perfectly captured the Japanese governments mind set when this is happening, of course Britain didn't want an inland state (but we don't talk about that). The "We also don't want that to happen to us" mindset is one of the factors that set Japanese modernization efforts in motion
My biggest hope for Vic 3 is that it will be integrated with Steam Workshop, and have a big modding community like HOI4
should do only stuff that doesn't have workshop is games that normally predate the workshop itself i believe like vic 2
It absolutely will
Every paradox strategy game since Crusader Kings 2 or Europa Universalis 4 have had that, so don’t worry about no steam workshop
Hopefully actual warfare through mods?
@@nelsongalan1417 ye, and im really happy cuz its gonna be one of firts and most downloaded mod
I really want to see more Daniel Tolman. The guy knows what he is doing and also his explanation off the cuff about why Japan is represented as a single entity just highlights how much thought has gone into everything.
Yeah he was great
As soon as i read the dev diaries, i instantly thought "keep the game designer in charge, whoever he is"
I expect a full implementation of feudalism in Japan will be one of the many DLC purchases our abused wallets will be looking forwards to.
(And yes, I love Daniel)
@@shaddaboop7998 Like they said it would be a total change of mechanics. So yeah it'll be a DLC, though one that can be used a lot in multiple countries.
we need to have boshin war, yes...?!
For those wondering it starts at 7:37 and the gameplay only at 9:10
Kudos to you sir.
Doing gods work
Thank you gentleman
And they come back after the break at 01:49:03
Bruh the music was good what u talking avout
god I want to play this game so bad...I've been playing paradox games since HOI2 and Vicky 2 is one of my favorites over the years. I just love the era. Can't wait to shell out the money for this game come Oct 28th. I'm 32 years old and I really don't get excited too much anymore when it comes to stuff like video games but this is different. Makes me feel like a teenageer again with the level of not wanting to wait and just play this already.
Victoria 2 was to complex for me at the time i wasn't old enough. But i surely support the statement. I want this game so bad. Its beautiful, and deep and you can play it 100 times and still have new things to discover 🙂
We could wait for years for a Victoria 3 already, these 6 weeks will pass soon enough.
@@benniinsuedafrika Same! This game looks at least more accessible than Vic 2. Hope I'll understand it more than Vic 2
Are you me? Also been playing since HoI2, I’ve put hundreds of hours into Vicky2, and this is the first game I’ve gotten truly excited for in years. I literally haven’t felt this way since I was a teenager
@@benniinsuedafrika Vic3 will be more complex when it comes to the economy, less when it comes to other things but to me thats for the better.
I'll echo what others have said here; keep the LIVE Gamestreams coming! It not only is helping to market the product but show us your product is worth our time and investment in money. Not only that but your honesty regarding glitches and coding issues definitely makes us feel more at ease that you'll have a good, well-built final product when it's released next money. :)
It is interesting about this game that it offers almost endless possibilities for the economic development of a country without having to attack anyone. You can only focus on internal affairs.
please play with prussia or gb next time and maybe start the game before the stream so we can see some mid game or even late game
For interest Groupes in Japan, the daimyos should be represented but split into 2 factions, one pro shogun and one pro emperor, and I also think the Merchants & Royal court should be represented as well
Maybe in a future DLC, if this game reaches hoi4/eu4 popularity.
2:40:49 when the Shogunate are so pissed off they become loyal 😂 love overflow bugs in games haha
cant wait to see them play prussia or something want to see someone with good heavy industry base
Glad to see that you guys have evolved from ruining the Dutch economy and are now resorting to violently destabilising the political landscape of Japan.
I love that Japan isn't allowed to have trade routes at the beginning of the game. I was thinking that the new trade system would work for representing Japan's isolationism at the beginning of the game. The game looks great as well, the internal political simulation seems significantly more detailed than the one in Vicky 2.
Martin exploiting his own game and promising not to fix it until release so people can try it, just shows how great of a game dev he is
Cant wait! Not long now :) The world looks very pretty. Great stream. I always really liked Daniel's segments on the Vicky 3 monthly updates, get him and Martin together and it's a good combo. They both clearly love Vicky 3 so it makes the game a lot more fun to watch. Daniel should be on more of the streams, you two work well together. I would mention Bjorn but he is a constant presence. It's like when you have a younger sibling who wants to watch the older kids play video games but never gets a turn... Poor Bjorn lol
The AI looks a bit wonky , Im a bit concerned about that... otherwise a great stream
@@A7pha06 yeah I mean there's a few things that are really broken. Look at the cheese with the IGs they did... But then of course that's merely numbers. AI on the other hand is more concerning. I really hope that they can polish it all up before release. We can only wait and see. Fingers crossed we see some improvements next stream 😊
Watching them continually hire then fire generals was making me laugh so damn much XDD
That map looks so beautiful!! Good job people, cant wait to play this game
the map looks great but the war system looks super ugly, I can't believe they removed the visible armies.
Would love a little Sun/Moon just above time of day. That way don't have to stop and see "Morning" but could just see the little image of a Sun rising.
I just want to say, thankyou guys so much for being so fluent in English, it’s a blast being able to understand you guys while playing and interesting on the forum.
These streams are really fascinating and I cannot tell you how much I am looking forward to playing this game myself! Please keep them coming and let us see more of this beauty of a game!
While it's true that Japan in the early 1800s was stagnant population wise, I do have to take issue with the idea that feudal societies are inherently so. Most modern scholarship seems to point to a pretty massive population growth in Japan during the 16th and 17th centuries, though of course it's more and more difficult to come to exact figures the further back we go.
I don't know much about this topic, but if you have more education on this matter, you should take it to the forums and make a post about it. I'd love for the world of Victoria to become more accurate, and they check the forums the most of any platform in terms of feedback.
Pretty sure that was more due to the Sengoku period ending then and thus a lot less people killing each other.
@@littleabigail4328 Not really. That can't justify almost 2 centuries of constant population growth, urbanization and prosperity.
@@littleabigail4328 That's the wild thing, though. Notice I said 16th and 17th centuries, not the 16-1700s. The population of Japan actually grew quite substantially during the Sengoku period. It was mostly samurai killing each other after all, and while they were extremely large for a military class, they still only made up a fraction of the population. I'm not going to say no peasants ever got caught up in it, of course they did, but by and large it was in a daimyo's own self-interest to make sure the people of their domains weren't abused, and were able to go about their business in peace. Even if you were conquering someone else's territory, the goal was for the people there to pay YOU taxes instead, so burning the fields and killing the peasants was just bad business.
So, while the biggest growth came during the first century of peace during Tokugawa rule, it wasn't reversing a decline. It was just continuing a trend of growth already began during the Sengoku period.
Yes I was thinking of the same thing during the stream researched feudalism heavily when I was writing a paper on France and how it developed from feudalism to one of the first true modern states
We need a Vic2 technology discovery sound mod.
What a wonderful stream! Thanks for your time Daniel :)
Sad I missed it but glad I can catch the VOD!
This is a great idea for advertising while being so funny. Good work guys
Japan was united at the time of victoria. All of the daimyo were integrated in the political system of shogunate and held no real full authority over their domains so in the regard to the idea that japan shall be fractured in game is not right. And the thing is. Even though emperor resided in Kyoto and capital officially was there the real seat of power was Edo, so perhaps capital shall be moved to Edo?
I would assume Edo is the Trade Capital IE. where most of the power is and Kyoto is the official capital
worse, if you look at morocco they used the borders made by france on 1912 rather than the actual borders of the kingdom at 19 century.
@@yassinereddead959 yeah. Oversimplified. I understand some aspects hard to replicate but those just mentioned above not really that critucally hard...
It makes the game more challenging probably the reason why this is so
@@chickensprint obtuse stupidity does not equal "challenge"
Small thing I don't know if people already mentioned but they could take a look at the readability over pictures like in the state buildings tab, some of those are a bit hard to read, maybe add some vignette to the image or a thicker border/shadow to the letters so they pop up more
Much better than 'Click button, get Meji Restoration' in Vicky 2. I like that it seems to be a real hassle to turn that feudal backwater into an industrial power
the occupation flag should be one big flag imo, instead of everz province being a seperate small flag
It's sooooo bad
Mods gonna come in clutch
I feel like the overall feel of the world that paradox has made is getting much, much better. (The world map) I feel like they're definitely on the right track. Excited to see the future of their game dev and see which direction they go as the map keeps scaling up
Gonna miss the Nevada shaped hole in the Rocky Mountains from Victoria 2
So excited for the game and loving the streams, keep it up!
I really like vic3 from what i have seen i think the game should do a little more in letting you know what is going on without having to check in on the different tabs each time.
Can't agree with that, the choice of modifiers you're constantly monitoring and manipulating is what's going to make your personality shine through your gameplay. And when you get good at it, you'll know when and where to watch.
Isolationist market made for an interesting game! Really shakes up the Victoria gameplay
>Denmarks entire territory consists of Iceland and Greenland, and its capital is a random province in Africa.
Yup, it's a Paradox game.
I am so hyped for this game. I know i won't be disappointed. Paradox is one of the few developers that never have disappointed me.
Imperator Rome was pretty bad like. This looks great.
@@stevewake6614 imperator sometimes feels like a trail run for vicky 3..
IR was pretty disappointing. Stellaris too, at launch.
I feel like a desperately needed addition to Vic 3 is the statistics menu - and definitely some End-of-Year summary of where you're country is, and compared to the previous statistics for the last time (including how your country looks at the start date)
There is when you hover over stuff like the GDP shows from start
Same w population, literacy ect
I just feel like 15 years go by without doing much, if feels like the game just started but you have already played 15% of the game.
Hope this will change in the future
Yeah, I too got that feeling. Like the time is flying by and you are not able to build things. Not sure, maybe those low tier buildings are a bit too expensive and they need to balance it out. And considering they had like 3 civil wars due the same law (Abolishing Serfedm), they need to balance that too. Seems crazy you would need to win a civil war 3 times for such a reform. Maybe they should make it so that if you have a civil war due to some leager matter, wining that war automatically passes the law in question. I mean, you fought a war because of it, so what is there more to debate?
@William this is almost certainly not going to change in the future. The whole point of Victoria 3 is it is supposed to take place during the Victorian Era which ends by the 1930s. The direction the Victoria 3 devs are taking is one of a Macro-Economic society builder because most of the changes in society in this period were the result of the economic changes that resulted from the Industrial Revolution. While we may think of the Industrial Revolution as a single event, this is hardly the case and it took multiple decades for any meaningful change to be made to society. In the case of Japan, the Meiji Restoration(1868) and kicking the Shogun out of power took multiple decades from game start and a civil war, the Boshin war. In this context, 15 years is a very short period of time to kick the shogun out of government.
Paradox exploiting their own game on stream is just S+ tier content.
The music be straight bussin. Goose bumps man.
I can't stop thinking about how much I'd like to keep seeing major CITIES on the map of any paradox game
128k British army died at the Opium war?? developers must to fix battle system
I mean they were fighting against an army 8 times their size.
Didnt the dev say it was because they added the conquest wargoal. If it was just the treaty port they could of sat on Hong kong defensively and won.
Wonky AI as usual.
@@krokuke the first opium war had on the british side.
69 killed in battle, 451 wounded. 284 executed or died in captivity.
the qing had 3100 killed, and 4000 wounded.
128k deaths or wounded in this imperial age war during the early victorian era is laughable at best. these are franco prussian war, or brother war level casualties.
The problem with video game designers, and modern people have with understanding the Victorian era especially the early half is wars were tiny. Especially colonial wars. Limited war was the name of the game since a massive general war was avoided in europe due to wanting a balance of powers, and avoidance of it because the napoleanic wars were so costly. as time went on, and the rise of nationalism and jingoism grew ever stronger it made ww1 more and more possible.
This game will not model that. :v
@@monarchtherapsidsinostran9125 Because the British tried to take an entire Qing state, which is why the Qing resisted so much.
@@krokuke you haven't seen the stream with the dutch taking borneo have you. Its just as bad in small nations being invaded. Its also an ai issue.
Almost like having micro would let you not have your valuable pops die you need for your economy would be nice. You know. Since its a strategy game.
This game looks so beautiful! can't wait to play it!
Could you do a game playing as Norway? Im curious to see whats it like playing as a subject
I really like what I see. I do hope you cover or include some options to make it a bit more difficult, more aggression from other states and perhaps a concerted trade war, or perhaps some gameplay setting options to have more scarcity in the markets. A lot more pressure from Russia against Japan would be appropriate at this stage. Russia leased a naval base from China in 1897.
edit: Also perhaps some sort of gameplay setting option for disasters to force the player to have to consider rebuilding and repairing structures as well as spending money in recover, perhaps independent unions for the industries ... this might be a bit much to add though.
Things I learned last stream: 1.) Stop pausing. 2.) Label pizza.
Love both of the hosts!
"The hottest of codes and the coldest of pizzas." ~ New Paradox Streaming Motto
Can't wait the release day! My only complain is that the smoky Mt. Fuji kinda looks weird. It seems that minor fumarolic activities had sometimes happened around 1850 actually but they were pretty rare. Also Fuji like a chimney is not familiar for us today too. It would be cool if it could be a super rare event, otherwise you might want to disable it
I'm a little worried that they say hot code for a game releasing in a month
Though I'm dying to play it I hope it's not a buggy mess on release
I doubt its gonna be a buggy mess on release. It'll be a mess, because most Paradox games are a mess on release, but i doubt it'll be a buggy one.
Unless they stop working on the game it is hot code until release.
It could just be the last loose ends they have to tie up, stuff they put less priority on compared to other bigger things.
If it weren’t paradox, I’d be worried. For other devs, having hotcode a month before release is a definite disaster. However paradox’s method is horrible crunching out of content, whether it be games or dlc. So it will be complete on release.
It doesn't hurt to wait a bit. Leviathan broke a lot of EU4 at release and Royal Court broke offices and certain events for a couple of months after release. It's worth at least checking reviews, though its not always obvious what might be broken at first.
It seems the vicky 2 rebel-spam has just been replaced by civil-war spam according to how their previous games have gone, and despite constantly talking about there being many ways to get what you want the AI just sees conquest as the only option every single time.
apple : *falls *
isaac newton : why victoria 3 needs a gtx 1660?
"its bold and innovative... just not good" cracked me up so hard :D my sense of humor
At 1:10:18 I saw mention of currency standards! And there's a picture of notes… although I note that it says it leads to banking, rather than the opposite… the reason they were called bank notes is that they were originally promissory notes issued by banks! Which of course had its own problems, because that currency worked only with those banks… not the others. So you had money changing bureaus for exchanging bank notes for the bank you banked with, at a cost of course.
However, I do note the description mentioned standardized currency, so I’m guessing these notes would be issued by the state, and backed by precious metals? That way you could do business with those notes within that country, and exchange them for precious metals when doing business internationally.
Tell me y'all, what's the first country you're gonna play as? I'm considering Brazil.
My Homeland "korea"
The most op nation ofc, Sweden
sikh empire
Piedmont
Peru, Siam or Afghanistan all seem like fun countries with resource oppertunities nearby to make nice self sufficient mid size countries.
Despite my better judgement I pre-ordered the grand edition...
Same ong
Bruuuh
Same
I Proud of you Bernand pls play ottoman empire when game out
You're not alone amigo.
The *northeastern* and *eastern* regions of *Iran* were not independent in 1836(treaty of Akhal in 1881, treaty of paris in 1857,Goldsmin's Agreement in 1871)
I hope these mistakes will be corrected.
thanks for talking about napoleon's leg
looks great. Pre ordered!!
The Australian aristocrats working on wheat farms in the desert are not happy and started a revolt...
I can understand that.
these two guys rule, thanks for doing this. i am way more excited for this after seeing y'all play and comment. looks like this game will be taking over my life as expected.
Guys, keep putting game streams - love watching and really want to get my hand on the game! Thanks for doing this
I like this game very much (enjoyed the presentation) and can't wait for it's release! However...
The issue with the Japan was that there was a nominal capital (Kyoto, a seat of emperor, the nominal, de iure ruler) and the real one in Edo (seat of the shogun - the real ruler who exercised real power). The Japan until 1868 was organised in the bakuhan system and was ruled by the shogun's administration. However the system was feudal, daimyos ruled in their own domains (under supervision of bakufu officials - somehow it might look more like Crusadier Kings mechanics). Some of the daimyo were bakufu (shogunate) loyalist, some were in "opposition" (tozama daimyo). [The game mechanics does not grasp that - those social classes are kinda monolithic - as far as I can see - this is a problem in the case of factionalism in XIX-century Japan].
There was anti-bakufu (samurai) movement, that opposed the shogun, but the political situation was not that simple.
Japan was in sakoku policy since late 1630's (isolationism). A lot of samurai were supporting that policy and were radically xenophobic. The only place in Japan where foreigners were allowed to land and trade was Dejima trading post (so... sadly there is no Dejima Dutch trade factory in the game). Also: christianity was prohibited under capital punishment.
In 1853, when Perry's expedition arrived and Japan (the bakufu) was forced to end the sakoku policy - it flamed the dissent in country among the xenophobic elites. Some Japanese ports were forcefully opened and the foreigner exterritorial enclave was established like Shimoda US consulate or Yokohama (game mechanic - it may be one of those treaty ports - as far as I can see).
The joi (expell the barbarians) conservative and xenophobic movement started to gain popularity and the emperor Komei has taken benefit of that (so there was an imperial/monarch faction in opposition to bakufu faction).
There were also some clashes with the foreigners like Shomonoseki campaigns and bombardment of Kagoshima. The result of them changed the mind of some important people and lead to the conclusion that modernization or westernization of Japan might be a necessity.
After 1860, when bakufu official, Tairo Li Naosuke (member of "modernization and pro-western faction") in was assasinated, the japanese political stage was divided into two factions: sonno-joi (Revere the Emperor, expel the barbarians) movement and bakufu loyalists. Samurai and daimyo were divided into those two factions.
Hovewer, emperor's faction more efficiently moved into modernization (at list in the armed forces area) policy - especially it was the case in Satsuma and Choshu domains (Ito, Yamagata, Saigo etc.). It doesnt mean that shogun Tokugawa Yoshinobu didn't do his best in his modernization efforts.
After emperor Komei's death (who had his own political idea of kobu-gattai) the power in pro-emperor movement was taken by radical anti-bakufu faction - and it have lead to abolishment of bakufu and civil war (boshin war - between bakufu and its loyalists on the one side and pro-imperial faction on the other). During the war capital was moved to Edo, the city changed its name to Tokyo (1868). As the result of the Boshin war the bakufu was crushed, and Tokugawa house disbanded. (there was also the case of "Ezo Republic", but it's not so important).
After the war the real reforms started. There was a lot of dissent among the samurai and daimio - especially in matter of conscription law and abolishment of feudal system. So there was stil a lot of conflict (like the Eto Shimpei rebellion and seinan senso - the Saigo Takamori rebellion).
[/sorry for beeing such a nerd; keep up the good job!]
Yes!
I don’t know if this is possible but it would be cool if the leading interest groups in the government could control the academia to increase compliance to the state. I saw the philosopher kings event and thought about how cool it would be to kinda gaslight my society into loving whichever government I currently have
1:59:09 I was expecting the Great Emu Rebellion to have broken out… but then I remembered I was about 80 years too early :P
Not sure how i feel about this game
Would be interesting to see how the meiji restoration could be done historically
I watch this to gain ahead game knowledge knowing I will be facing crucial challenge when I am playing as Prussia in October
20:12 just gonna point out Canberra was founded in 1913 and not in 1836 or earlier. Canberra was founded as a compromise between Sydney and Melbourne on who would become the capital of Australia.
2:17:50 I like the moment he realizes exactly what he’s thinking
So excited for this game!
Dear devs the problem for me is the economy.. In Vicky 2 if you have enough literacy (and population) capitalists eventually build your industry. In this game feels like there is no automation everything requires micromanagement and it scares me and frustrates me to be honest.. i hope you see this paradox!
Btw can you explain to me how does prioritizing works? what is the ratio on that? for example if i prioritize hardwood in all of wood buildings do i still produce some wood or do i go %100 hardwood? cause that means more micro
Capitalists sucked in vic2 if you wanted to be efficient and not get wrecked in MP you had to build everything yourself.
Definitely buying this game.
Well at least it was somewhat better than the last stream.
Could you publish some music from the game? The song playing during the pause of the middle of the stream was beautiful.
Why did the devs build so few construction yards? They had plenty of spare credit for the entire game and they never used it.
Devs tend not be good players ironically enough
They probably were trying to overcorrect for crashing the Netherlands’ economy in the last stream lol :p
Difference in philosophy between the devs. Daniel seemed more inclined to keep construction running near constantly instead of running a huge deficit to build faster. Which given that you'd need to either grow the economy enough to increase your credit limit or stop building for a time, is probably the safer option.
@@lucidreamer6522 In that stream they were using PM that involved iron which they had to get from Brunei while also having way too much capacity compared to the size of the country.
cant wait
I see a lot of micro management, local management of buildings, which in a way is ok because it influences economy and country gdp and thats what Victoria should be about. But in the other hand, won't it become too much of a task for bigger nations like UK, USA or Russia? I can't imagine having to manage every province in Russia
in the building menu u can change production methods on a every factory in ur country by the click of a button
Realistically you'll only have to manage a few states in Russia because only a few will have anything beyond peasants on subsistence farms
@@jeffersonclippership2588 it’s also possible not all of Russia will be incorporated states. Especially east of the Urals.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 Its not just the pops that matter. If we have this one resource we want to mine/farm in a province, then buildings need be built, plus maybe factories as well. One thing i liked to do when playing victoria 2 with a big nation was to increase capitalists and let them manage the factories.
@@zuzazaki There's an auto-expand button, so you only need to build the fist building in a state, put it on auto-expand and as long as the building is making money and has a full cash reserve it will expand.
Never played Victoria... I though i wouldnt dig it... but it looks SO GOOD filled with intricate details & i guess gives you an understand on how economics work
" So what makes you think you can handle our company's economy?"
" thank you for asking, well ive played Vic 3 for 500 hours."
" you hired!"
What do the two numbers in for innovation (like the 15-45 at 1:01:50) mean?
Cant wait to play Victoria 3 as Japan. Only started playing Victoria 2 this year and Japan is definitely the most fun nation to play.
We want to move little soldiers around on the map :(
"Off-brand Jaffa Cakes"
Jaffa Cakes ARE the off-brand.
1:54:45 - "coming in late to the game, it's what the US does.." Ah, bullseye! hahaha
At 1:36:28 I suspect the reason the Prussians are doing so well is that they have Generalfeldmarschall Helmuth von Moltke, the “father of modern infantry tactics”. :P
Fun fact, Guizhou is full of the fossils of giant marine reptiles. So maybe the British were looking for museum pieces again?
Please fix the resource allocation on the world map, there is no logical reason to have it be tied to population and result in China having way more arable land than USA for example.
I think it is reasonable because you need manpower to operate and farm on the arable land. Isn't it the reason why slave trade happened? You simply don't have enough people to work on the fields in the USA. China on the other hands was a agrarian society & economic superpower in the past because majority of its population works in the fields.
@@appleriverside4374 By the end of the game one mechanized farmer on a tractor pulling a seed drill with artificial fertilizer should be as productive as 1000 peasants were at the beginning.
@@josephmagana6235 yes this is the case for technology advanced countries in vic2. I am pretty sure it is the same for vic3 too in late game?
@@appleriverside4374 Not sure what you mean, what does that have to do with the reality of some places having way more agricultural potential than was used to support their population during the game's timeframe? USA could easily feed a population higher than China currently has, but the way the game is today that wouldn't be possible. To me they just did the lazy thing of more pops = more resource slots instead of actually researching real-life resource deposits and available agricultural land (if a mod like MEIOU and Taxes can do it there's zero reason Paradox couldn't do it).
@@vivar5318 In Vicky 2 they made it so technology played a big factor in how much your rgo's produce, If they did the same thing in Vicky 3 then by mid-game, China will have much less rgo produciton than the US (or any western country).
Where did Martin get his T-Shirt?
Is this theme available anywhere?
Re: Situation in China:
"It's tea time."
It generally is in China.
Re: Situation in Prussia:
"They're doing strangely well with a suspiciously small army."
That is how Prussia does.
I absolutely adore the mechanics, but will definitely be waiting on a historical realism overhaul of some sort