Denise Williams Love Triangle Trial Day 2 Part 1 Brian Winchester Testifies

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  • Denise Williams Love Triangle Trial Day 2 Part 1 Brian Winchester Testifies
    #DeniseWilliams #LoveTriangleTrial

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  • @BreezeDaDon
    @BreezeDaDon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    The funny thing is, the lawyer sounds absolutely insane here, and the criminal sounds like an honest man. So the lawyer is overdoing it and just sounds stupid.

  • @philliphager6107
    @philliphager6107 5 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    I mean, the dude is laying it all out there for the world to know, but this lawyer is questioning him like he's trying to hide something... lol

    • @paulineclothier6776
      @paulineclothier6776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's to drum it into the heads of the jury that Brian is a heartless murderer.

    • @jocelyncansino1008
      @jocelyncansino1008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the lawyer who's questioning him was his lawyer. It's sounds his depending him.

    • @oratuwe8114
      @oratuwe8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      No, that's not the point. The point is to pin all responsibility on him, thereby making Denise look innocent.

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oratuwe Bingo!

    • @HLJRMAI1
      @HLJRMAI1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This lawyer is her lawyer, she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it

  • @nyccolm
    @nyccolm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    “You had a gun, didn’t you. You didn’t have a bouquet of flowers.” What kind of bad TV shows has this D Grade lawyer been watching?? Fortunately the judge is competent.

    • @kingethan2144
      @kingethan2144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol

    • @bluefaery1865
      @bluefaery1865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I Concur. He is no Perry Mason.

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He’s such an offensive attorney that he actually hurt her case. Probably the worst lawyer I’ve ever heard.

    • @MC-hs4mf
      @MC-hs4mf ปีที่แล้ว

      RIP Judge Hankinson

  • @icantthinkofacooname3025
    @icantthinkofacooname3025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    She is just as guilty as he is. She wanted that insurance money and used this guy as a ticket to get it.

    • @Isogotit
      @Isogotit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True fact

    • @Redfiregtag
      @Redfiregtag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Even more guilty in my opinion on her and it was extremely premeditated on his end it was simply lust

    • @nanfeliciano5465
      @nanfeliciano5465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly she's to blame, she started the affair, so glad hos momma never gave up on looking for her son's body. I would be doing the same thing...The true prevail

    • @julieperez1879
      @julieperez1879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She is a psychopath. Mean and emotionless

    • @jessicamartinez3613
      @jessicamartinez3613 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nanfeliciano5465 God told her not to give up. She didn't.

  • @shombiedixon7017
    @shombiedixon7017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I love how he told the Truth about Prison.. They asked Do he think he would one day walk out of prison. He answered: " If I survived it"...Great answer sir

    • @toni3270
      @toni3270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, poor thing after everything he did they can't do enough to that punk in the joint!

  • @terrigarcia2750
    @terrigarcia2750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    I know that Brian killed Mike, but I can't help but laugh at the way he's deal with this lawyer. He's absolutely NOT going to allow Denise to squirm out of her part in Mike Williams' murder. She wasn't the one that pulled the trigger, but she most certainly had as much responsibility as he does, in my opinion!!

    • @dannyholder9711
      @dannyholder9711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I actually think she had more of a role man.

    • @rcai3262
      @rcai3262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      They both should’ve gotten life in prison, no parole.

    • @dannyholder9711
      @dannyholder9711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rcai3262 what??? I figured 12 months probation would be a sufficient punishment

    • @rubeniamalone3810
      @rubeniamalone3810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@dannyholder9711 You are right, she is the one who got 1.7 million and at the end wanted to put him in jail for life and forget about Brian and Mike. Back fired.

    • @gloriaambrose2840
      @gloriaambrose2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@rubeniamalone3810 they both enjoyed the money since Brian moved into Mike’s home and he was the one who forged the insurance papers

  • @lacywatkins1205
    @lacywatkins1205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Crazy she was smart enough to get away with it for so long but not smart enough to know she shouldn't go to the police for the kidnapping

    • @miriambelanger7292
      @miriambelanger7292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      .

    • @kristendavis7870
      @kristendavis7870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      She tbought she was smarter than the cops.

    • @nbk9372
      @nbk9372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      My analysis and partial conclusion is that after the the false imprisonment incident, she gave it some deep thought, she saw the opportunity to be rid of Brian for good and saw her going to FLEO as a chance to begin laying the foundation to stage his suicide or setting up conditions to kill him and claim self defense.
      Once she went to the LEO and laid out her statement, the severity of the outcome was not what she had in mind and when her brother en-law officer McCrainie flipped the script of; "he was not their to kidnap you, he was there to KILL you"! He lays it out to her; based on the items you (Denise) described, thats a kill kit which means he's done this before, he came prepared (hinting he may have killed Mike), he must said something to you, what was it?
      After that bomb shell, Denise was not expecting anything like this at all, once she realized the script was being flipped, she started back peddling at warp speed. She kept emphasizing, no Brian was going to kill himself. Her arrogance overshadowed the voice of reasoning. Yes Denise had a very VERY BAD day once she walked into that interrogation room. FLEO patiently waited 15 years and pounced on her once she finished her complaint, they (Brian & Denise) were the primary suspects for 15 years for her husband Mike's disappearance!

    • @bokani79
      @bokani79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It was a sign that she was done, meaning she exhausted all her tricks and she met her match with Brian. Het only option to stay alive was going to the police. I am pretty sure Brian would have killed her.

    • @AshadowsShadow
      @AshadowsShadow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nbk9372 This is a fantastic analysis. I completely agree. I never considered this viewpoint before.

  • @documax123
    @documax123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This man might be a bad man but he's a crystal clear, open, and non-defensive - first class - witness.

    • @kristendavis7870
      @kristendavis7870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Because he got the mother of all deals!

    • @documax123
      @documax123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kristendavis7870 he sure did. He played game theory/the prisoner's dilemma perfectly!

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He had a spiritual awakening that lead him to confess his sins. This is a broken and repentant man.

    • @alansilvero
      @alansilvero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is the face of a man that doesn't care if he goes down, the ship goes with him too.
      Granted, denise had it coming not sure why she expected him not to talk.

    • @chrissinger101
      @chrissinger101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonBlackstone ya his chilling matter of fact reason is because he got full immunity of murder and serves 20 years for the kidnaping of his wife! if he told 100% truth if he is caught lying the revoke his immunity, the story doesnt get no more truth then this because the truth gets him 0 time for murder!

  • @acekrash1
    @acekrash1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    While it’s annoying to listen to, it’s comforting to know her lawyer is such a total buffoon-thus ensuring a loooong sentence

    • @snapmalloy5556
      @snapmalloy5556 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure that is true, but if it is true this is actually a very bad thing.
      She could appeal using ineffective counsel as the reason. She could get another trial based on that

  • @Johnbartheart
    @Johnbartheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    “Hey police, the guy I planned to kill my husband with just kidnapped me…”
    (Later) “Uh-oh, I should’ve kept my mouth shut…😳”

  • @looking4things669
    @looking4things669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It's easy to see how the victim often gets forgotten in murder trials. Mike deserved better people in his life.

    • @nuckinfuts7610
      @nuckinfuts7610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How was Mike "forgotten" about here? He's literally the highlighting topic of nearly every other question, answer, and statement. And rightfully so.

  • @ellp152
    @ellp152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I don't think I would want this lawyer representing me! "Even for a parking ticket"

    • @paulgomes5458
      @paulgomes5458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree , he was helping the state prove their case. The defense attorney was asking different questions to get the same information trying to get him to make a mistake. His testimony was very consistent and you can tell he was telling the truth.

    • @Rottilover21
      @Rottilover21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe he was Mike's friend.
      He want Denise to go down.

    • @emurillo8573
      @emurillo8573 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @janakisubramanian1018
      @janakisubramanian1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂

  • @sashagirl1987
    @sashagirl1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I really wish the camera had been on Denise Williams during this trial. I would be interested to see her expressions during all these testimonies .

    • @crystalturken
      @crystalturken ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking the same thing @millie wagoner

    • @MichelleNo1738
      @MichelleNo1738 ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS ! I would love to see that demons face !

  • @gregoryfabre7471
    @gregoryfabre7471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    The guy cross-examining should choose another career.

    • @denisetimmons9509
      @denisetimmons9509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      For sure. He is horrible. Is he getting paid by her?

    • @EcocleanPools
      @EcocleanPools 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      lol I was thinking the same thing. She paid him? lol

    • @ninamagnus4497
      @ninamagnus4497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@denisetimmons9509 well that is her layer. so ya.

    • @hv3926
      @hv3926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He's that same idiot that asked that one witness how long it took for Mike (RIP) to "punch (Brian) in the face" for having his arms around Denise at that rock concert. What responsible Officer of the Court even suggests such an assault (law breaking)!?! You guys remember that?. This "atty" is an absolute joke.😮😡🙄😑🤣😱

    • @desirreejackson7760
      @desirreejackson7760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right

  • @terrilobianco6277
    @terrilobianco6277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Totally unimpressed with this attorney’s questioning. He did not help his client, in my opinion.

    • @roderickcampbell7872
      @roderickcampbell7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He didnt beed to help him .The deal was to be as open as possible in order to sink denise .I think he did a good job.

    • @TentinQuarantino_
      @TentinQuarantino_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@roderickcampbell7872 it’s Denise’s lawyer, not Brian’s. Brian is just a witness in this trial.

    • @carolynsears1710
      @carolynsears1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The deal was in already! He testified against her for conspiracy

    • @HopefulInterventions
      @HopefulInterventions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s not his attorney. He’s just a witness against Denise. The prosecution is doing the questioning.

  • @jlow532
    @jlow532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    A masterclass on how ineffective crossexamination against a credible witness can be. Unreal.

    • @Ratlins9
      @Ratlins9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Best comment on this thread.

    • @jenmdawg
      @jenmdawg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Watch Mr Terry cross examine Jonathan Hearn in the Sabrina Limon trial -- it’s 1000 x more painful than this and the exact same scenario as this trial.

    • @emmisu9724
      @emmisu9724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Or Jennifer Willmots questioning of Dr Janeen Demarte and Dr Kevin Horn, in the Jodi Arias trial. Its hilariously entertaining stuff.

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      This attorney doesn’t know how to do his job. He’s asking questions which are ruining his client’s case.

    • @ReSearcherSusie
      @ReSearcherSusie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🏆🥇
      Best. Comment. Ever.

  • @ashleygeekie4635
    @ashleygeekie4635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Who knew her biggest downfall would be her snitching on her partner for another crime he committed against her 😒😂🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @kate4biglittlevoices
      @kate4biglittlevoices 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Love when karma lets us watch

    • @Scorcher-ii1ty
      @Scorcher-ii1ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What an idiot. I can't believe she went to the cops....have fun in prison. You have no argument. I guess you won't see your daughter getting married. Your are stupid.

    • @Williamb612
      @Williamb612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He got greedy…wanted whatever was left of the life insurance for herself.

  • @thalyavalle3920
    @thalyavalle3920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Lawyer- around?
    Brian- Circles go around ⭕️ ☝️
    Lol this lawyer is annoying 😂

  • @sarahg1583
    @sarahg1583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Over the years, I've watched 100's of trials & I can honestly say - Brian Winchester comes across as the nicest & most honest murderer of the bunch.

    • @spottedbutt
      @spottedbutt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I feel the same way. I think he is the perfect example of someone who committed the classic murder. Totally led astray by a woman. It sounds bizarre, but I feel for him. All of them. A sad sad case indeed.

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He was being used by Denise, but somewhere along the line he really did fell in love with her. A perfect culmination to what she was about to commit. It does take two to tango.

    • @jjf8862
      @jjf8862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He is definitely remorseful which is more than
      What we can say about the witch

    • @murkydepths181
      @murkydepths181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doesn’t he just 😏🌹

    • @ashleygeekie4635
      @ashleygeekie4635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most murderers when caught sound remorseful; I’m not convinced. If he genuinely felt bad, I don’t believe he would’ve taken a plea deal for immunity. Let alone wait to be caught in a situation for him to use Mike’s death to his benefit. He should’ve said something over the last almost two decades.

  • @raysmetaltracks6782
    @raysmetaltracks6782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Breaks my heart - so much loss for nothing. Kills me to hear Brian tell this story. He did an unthinkable act, and is now broken. Its like he has nothing left but the truth. This attorney is trying so hard to drill the message home that Brian killed his best friend, as if he needs to be clever to get Brian to tell the truth - when Brian is willing to tell each and every single horrific detail on his own. Just wish Brian could have had a moment of clarity that day earlier before he started down this tragic path.

    • @maxxdroid
      @maxxdroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1) He should have never started anything with his friends wife. 2) And should never ever have killed anyone.
      He really was manipulated by the sweet smell of p-ssy into killing his best friend. Horrible!

    • @marilyne4324
      @marilyne4324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Zero clarity until she cheated on him.

    • @doreck07
      @doreck07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@marilyne4324 Just a few nuggets of Red Pill knowledge could have saved Brian from this path probably.

    • @MichelleNo1738
      @MichelleNo1738 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Y’all really believing this man and feeling sorry for him !!! Wow 😮

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MichelleNo1738 Can you name any parts of his testimony that are demonstrably untrue?

  • @Dashman98
    @Dashman98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    All the defense attorney did was make the witness Brian to repeat what he said yesterday and insult him along the way, yet obtained no additional info along the way

    • @junecabal9600
      @junecabal9600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think too that the lawyer purposely repeated the scenario over and over to put weight on the guilt in Brian's conscience so it breaks him apart OR to take a chance to see if Brian's statement would change or would make him rethink or second guess. Kinda gaslighting him...

  • @Kim-Berly200
    @Kim-Berly200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    What did Denise think was going to happen after she went to the police on this guy🤷🏽‍♀️ Did she actually think he was going to keep the secret🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @sflomusic1995
      @sflomusic1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Narcissists are their own worst enemy... think they are invincible... she thought putting him in jail would silence him.

    • @Williamb612
      @Williamb612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      She actually did think he would keep the secret…she figured there is no way he would want to bring up the murder as it would jail them both for the rest of their lives
      She miscalculated

    • @tayjay1164
      @tayjay1164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sflomusic1995 bingo

    • @dukedematteo1995
      @dukedematteo1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      She thought they wouldnt believe him bc hes the unhinged kidnapping felon...

    • @fullcircle3357
      @fullcircle3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A true narcassist is what she is

  • @keithjames3024
    @keithjames3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Listening to Brians entire testimony makes me terrified of human beings.. The fact he could plan, and do the things he did, is sick… I understand Denise wanted Mike “gone” as well, but his actions are terrifying…

    • @MichelleNo1738
      @MichelleNo1738 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m telling you ! People need to know that they are demons who live here on earth with us who come from the devil and are only here to cause tragedies and chaos and hurt and pain to us ! It’s scary !

    • @nandanshetty1624
      @nandanshetty1624 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How are you making Denise conveniently look less of a criminal ? she is the bigger monster manipulative and narcissist

  • @barryfullmer8705
    @barryfullmer8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It’s great how he answers the defense attorney. He is completely being honest and the lawyer doesn’t know what to make of it.🤦‍♂️

  • @Dragonfly5455
    @Dragonfly5455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    It never ceases to amaze me that when a person has a relationship with a cheater, they expect them not to cheat on you. And both of these cheaters cheated on one another. The mind boggles. This man had no scruples about killing a man for a piece of cheating tail...

    • @Cosmickitten2012
      @Cosmickitten2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not to mention strip clubs, having sex at ditches - parking lots, multiple partners, three way tryst, the list goes on with these people, don't they know their kids are gonna grow up and possibly see these pictures. Now all the kids are grown and watching this trial and hearing this mess. For collage graduates they sure are mindless idiots with all these actions. The only real smart one is Denise, she keeps her mouth shut. Very smart girl.

    • @MK-vj5eh
      @MK-vj5eh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Past behavior is a good indication of future behavior ⏰

    • @Cosmickitten2012
      @Cosmickitten2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Mia Mee I thought she was gonna walk.

    • @slwtgf
      @slwtgf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gail Clark well said, my God

    • @MC-hs4mf
      @MC-hs4mf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JannelleCT and a lot don't too.

  • @Max-pt6mr
    @Max-pt6mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I took and passed the LSTAT after receiving my undergraduate degree but never attended law school but I believe I could examine a witness more effectively than this attorney.

    • @BR-td3kn
      @BR-td3kn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣👍

  • @allisonb.8492
    @allisonb.8492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I dont feel that this man would have killed his BFF w/out Denise giving him the go ahead!! She is as guilty as he is and its disgusting she never would admit it.

  • @mightyboss375
    @mightyboss375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I watched the videos of the Denise Williams murder story. It was truly
    a perfect murder in that Denise and Brian actually got away with murder
    and were not caught by evidence or forensics. Some locals suspected
    Denise and Brian were involved in the disappearance of Mike Williams,
    but no one could prove a murder.
    Denise and Brian not only pulled off
    a un-solved murder, Denise claimed 2 million dollars in life insurance
    policies, one of which was sold by Brian. Brian and Denise eventually
    got married, but they also grew apart. and that was the break in the
    unsolved murder. Denise got tired of Brian, and she had the 2 million
    dollars. Brian got kicked out, and he tried to get back together with
    Denise. She had lots of money, because of his selling Mike the life
    insurance policy. He had to get back with her, so he hid in her car.
    When she got in the car, he forced her to listen to him. She had to
    comply because he had a pistol. She did as he requested, long enough to
    get him out of her car.
    Then she went to the police and charged him
    with kidnapping, with a pistol. Mistake, Big Mistake. He went to
    prison, and So he eventually got back at Denise by confessing the
    unsolved murder. Had these two love birds stayed in love, they would
    have gotten away with murder. AND 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

    • @robyndaniels1381
      @robyndaniels1381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Trouble is neither of them knows what love is ... only glue was sex. Pair of saddos

    • @truthfullness4157
      @truthfullness4157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you for the summary...I'm a late comer to this story and needed a basic storyline 👍😁

    • @MsHburnett
      @MsHburnett 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lust birds

    • @sherry866
      @sherry866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duh, we have Ears !!

    • @faraleakyfaucet7517
      @faraleakyfaucet7517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They could not stay "in Love" with one another..he and Denise committed a Carninal Sin..No wait...Two Cardinal Sins.. No way either them could ever live in peacr and harmony. No way.

  • @MichelleNo1738
    @MichelleNo1738 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Update - Denise Williams got sentenced to life serving no less than 30 years !! JUSTICE 🙏

    • @MC-hs4mf
      @MC-hs4mf ปีที่แล้ว

      RIP Judge Hankinson

  • @midsummernight2009
    @midsummernight2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is a strange defense lawyer. He is not good at all. Almost sounds like a prosecutor, a stupid one.
    He is not helping his client.

    • @dmichael100
      @dmichael100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sure his approach is to show Brian Winchester is the only one guilty of murder so as to absolve his client. So in a way he is trying to "prosecute" Brian. I agree he's not very good. And his client was convicted as she should have been.

    • @didilv2187
      @didilv2187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he is not charged with anything, he has complete immunity.
      his only wish is to put his ex lover in jail for life. which he did with his testimony
      she put him in jail for 20 years claiming assault on her charges, so this is his revenge

  • @dwgherkemasnurdbird4803
    @dwgherkemasnurdbird4803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Had Denise never gone to police she’s still a free woman. She’s pretty clueless to think she could hook up her co murderer for years in prison and he wouldn’t spill the beans. Shockingly stupid really.

  • @ladyluck9469
    @ladyluck9469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Even though this guy is clearly a sociopath, I find him more credible than my ex husband

    • @Cosmickitten2012
      @Cosmickitten2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hahaha

    • @imcopper
      @imcopper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Cosmickitten2012 Bless ur lil heart ... lol been there lived thru it too...

    • @kimankersen1750
      @kimankersen1750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well...I hear you ;-)

    • @1972dsrai
      @1972dsrai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Leigh Fisher Love can make you do crazy things. Not sure he is a psychopath. He comes across as a nice guy overall apart from the obvious. Seems he acted on impulse quite a lot and thought later.

    • @erykvonkeith
      @erykvonkeith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The sociopaths that I've seen on trial rarely if ever cry and this guy has cried many times.

  • @TheMaleficent1
    @TheMaleficent1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    27:14 That look he gave Denise after retelling the "David and Bathsheba" conversation was so potent...

    • @naybatemon8837
      @naybatemon8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unfortunately…
      That was the wrong time stamp.
      He made that look in her direction at 28:03, & you’re very much welcome☺️☺️😘 lol

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Talk about looks can kill!

    • @vibrantlotus8154
      @vibrantlotus8154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sabrina and Jonathan Christian couple that used the same excuse .

    • @janetgood6332
      @janetgood6332 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it really was. That was the only time he appeared to look at her.

    • @ligregni
      @ligregni 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@naybatemon8837 15:35 too

  • @natalielove4764
    @natalielove4764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I HONESTLY FEEL, HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH!!. AS SAD AS IT IS..

    • @dmichael100
      @dmichael100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He's very forthright. He is guilty of heinous things- admits it- obviously genuinely feels it and is immensely believable. NO reason to lie now

    • @brendabrierebriere9406
      @brendabrierebriere9406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes

    • @Scorcher-ii1ty
      @Scorcher-ii1ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea...he knew his life was over. It's really sad how lust and greed look and feel like. Love.

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He is. Clearing his conscious and making sure she rots in jail too for her involvement.

    • @chrissinger101
      @chrissinger101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he didnt serve 1 day for this murder he got immunity to get the wife charged!

  • @lisashields2513
    @lisashields2513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    the lawyers questions are pointless

    • @kerrymarris4260
      @kerrymarris4260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lisa Shields , lawyers R pointless period....

    • @RaquelX305
      @RaquelX305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kerry Marris say that until you need one at some point

  • @lisashields2513
    @lisashields2513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    this lawyer is really annoying. Is he trying to say he was lying about the affair? They got married right?

    • @James-bv4nu
      @James-bv4nu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No, the prosecutor was trying to show the affair began BEFORE Mike went missing. To show pre-meditation and probable cause. It's more likely that they conspired to kill Mike, if they were already having an affair at that time. The defense lawyer was trying to show there was no affair before Mike went missing, to show that the affair was not a motive.

    • @G.Harley.Davidson
      @G.Harley.Davidson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven Cook that can happen. Sometimes even a Jury will dislike the victim, or prosecution, to a point they find they defendant not guilty, because of their disgust for the above.

    • @aaronbrutus2654
      @aaronbrutus2654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Marcos Cabral the law says guilty beyond all REASONABLE doubt..was she caught red handed? No. However...No logical thinking person can believe she was not involved. Even though the judge said to not hold her refusal to testify against her I WOULD HOLD IT AGAINST HER IF I WAS ON THAT JURY...as I'm sure they did.

    • @gearhead000TV
      @gearhead000TV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even supposing that she doesn't have anything to do with the actual crime, just knowing about it at any time within the last 17 years and not reporting it to authorities is a crime.

    • @jcny11
      @jcny11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His questions are all over the place.

  • @lisas2538
    @lisas2538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I think the judge seems good and fair.

    • @kellylynch9051
      @kellylynch9051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Judge is objecting for the prosecutor....odd

    • @PenskePC17
      @PenskePC17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kelly Lynch I think he only did that when it became very obvious, Brian is extremely intelligent and he was making the defense look horrible the entire time.

    • @kellylynch9051
      @kellylynch9051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sean Loughlin it gives grounds for an appeal citing judicial misconduct. If Brian is intelligent he wouldn’t need an assist from the judge. The evidence was circumstantial and from a conspirator who admittedly carried out the murder, disposed of the body, and tampered with evidence. It seemed like the judge was trying to sway the jurors by clearly demonstrating he was in the state’s pocket.

  • @fembot521
    @fembot521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Wow getting a divorce from a murderer?! Not the smartest move! Lol

    • @beautifulcat2023
      @beautifulcat2023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      She was dumb. You don't tick off your murderer!!!

    • @Lelen2207
      @Lelen2207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Divorce happened for a reason for this two its the answere for Mike’s mother’s prayer,

    • @Scorcher-ii1ty
      @Scorcher-ii1ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea...no kidding. I'd put up with anything than go to the clink...she wants a restraining order on him! Keep pushing his buttons Denise. Rot in prison. Now your daughter has no dad...no mom. Cathy is the only one with sense.

    • @friendlypiranha774
      @friendlypiranha774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scorcher-ii1ty, apparently not. From earlier testimony it appears that Cathy was the first one to cheat on their partner and that is what got Brian so upset.

  • @stevenladnyk4526
    @stevenladnyk4526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +389

    I’ve been watching videos on this case since about 8am this morning and have come to a couple opinions. 1. The police in the initial investigation were terrible. 2. This defense attorney is not the greatest lol. 3. Although Brian did a horrific and terrible unforgivable thing, I do feel like he has remorse. Love makes people do stupid crazy things. You can tell he’s been dying to get this all out because of all the detail he gives throughout his entire testimony. I’m glad Mike Williams’ mother got to see justice after all the hard work never giving up she did. I feel for the daughter because I’ll bet her mother never spoke about her father and then to learn that her own mother is the reason her father is no longer here has to just destroy you entirely.

    • @rosep8481
      @rosep8481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Steven Ladnyk I wouldn’t call it love. It was lust. Love is never this evil and selfish but lust? Lust is animalistic and devoid of any sincere human emotion

    • @voraciousreader3341
      @voraciousreader3341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Steven Ladnyk - I don’t think that the police were initially terrible....they were guided by the fish and wildlife people, and to a certain extent by Brian Winchester’s father, who couldn’t conceive that anyone would have done foul play to Mike. _He, like everyone else, thought Mike had gone hunting alone._ Only Denise and Brian knew that he hadn’t, which is one huge marker of Denise’s guilt given by the prosecutor....she never said that Brian was with Mike, but kept the fiction going that he was alone. The police were terrible later on, when Mike’s mother kept raising her concerns and the ignored her information. I don’t know when she became aware of the huge life insurance settlement, but you can bet she informed the police as soon as she knew!

    • @dougallen4675
      @dougallen4675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But Brian never has to serve a day for being the actual killer.

    • @gloriaambrose2840
      @gloriaambrose2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      😂 he only confessed because she dumped him and put him in jail. He wouldn’t ask for immunity if he was truly remorseful

    • @secondleasegamer8312
      @secondleasegamer8312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@dougallen4675 Yeah. But gave the family closure. Both the body, and the complete story as to what happened and why. It sucks that he's immune to this crime, but he's already got a 30year sentence and ruined his chance at a good life in his anger at being dumped, and cheated on by his co-conspirator who he literally killed for. This b!7

  • @susiepittman601
    @susiepittman601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    In addition to Mike's family, I feel sorry for Brian's parents. They were well known in the community and I believe that the realization that Brian killed Mike probably hastened Brian's mother's death.

    • @thepamela050
      @thepamela050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you feel sorry for Brian's family, they raised a KILLER and a POS that should never have another best friend as long as he lives..

    • @nOt24seven
      @nOt24seven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why are you so cold towards Brian’s parents? As Brian stated in his testimony, his dad had called him the day Mike went “missing” and had Brian staying long after everyone else in the search party had stopped. He cried when he mentioned how his dad wanted to find Mike cuz he loved him so much. Be mad at his actual murderers and those who prolly knew and kept the secret all that time!

    • @beverlydaniels-reeves729
      @beverlydaniels-reeves729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree I feel bad for Brians parents too...very sad

    • @nuckinfuts7610
      @nuckinfuts7610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@nOt24sevendid you even read the OP's cmnt? How does "I feel sorry for Brian's parents" translate into them being "cold towards the parents"? HOW did you misinterpret that?? LOL You're in such a rush to feel outraged that you got it embarrassingly wrong. Reread the cmnt, now let the embarrassment sink in. 😂

    • @allend2749
      @allend2749 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well known in the community means u put on a good front. remember, u do not know anyone unless you live with that person, day in and day out for many years. Even then you still may not truly know the person.

  • @bad71hd
    @bad71hd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I can honestly say that before I watch this video yesterday I thought my life was in complete disarray. And all I can think of today after seeing this, is thank God for my family and my freedom. Thank God I’m no killer and I am no bad man. I’m Neverland hands on nobody‘s wife. I am not interested whatsoever. I am so happy for the face of the Lord that sex has no appeal for me to do Anything sinister whatsoever! Can I get a amen?

    • @darkosebastian9052
      @darkosebastian9052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amen

    • @HonksGaming
      @HonksGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amen

    • @g-man8923
      @g-man8923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      amen

    • @sharona4567
      @sharona4567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      you sound like a decent man. it seems rare these days!

    • @williamtaylor5193
      @williamtaylor5193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Amen, and take comfort in knowing that you're not alone.

  • @lynnzino3284
    @lynnzino3284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    All I can focus on is this poor guy Mike holding onto a stump thinking it all makes sense now. Just the realization in his mind is a harsh reality.

    • @thomashassall96
      @thomashassall96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s what stuck out to me too, utter betrayal and terror! Sickening 🤢

  • @James-bv4nu
    @James-bv4nu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Mike's mother, Cheryl, knew the truth from the get go; Brian's father, Marcus, must also have known.

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly, his father must have known something.

  • @beautifulcat2023
    @beautifulcat2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I believe every word he is saying. Sad on all sides...

  • @ErkFX
    @ErkFX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I find it crazy that Denise didn’t believe in divorce and didn’t want to share custody with Mike, but felt planning the death of her husband after committing adultery for at least 3 years before then was a better option. Sin is sin no matter what type of sin it is. At least save yourself a little less hell on earth and get a divorce! I can’t believe it took so long for them to get caught!

    • @mojoboo41
      @mojoboo41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      She wanted the money

    • @bluefaery1865
      @bluefaery1865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I doubt she was thinking in a Godly term of sin. She was looking at it in a society term of sin. It would look better to others if she was a widow as opposed to a divorcee`.

    • @looking4things669
      @looking4things669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think Denise only said that to manipulate Brian to kill Mike. She believed in money and didn't care so much about marriage or divorce.

    • @BK-dv3hh
      @BK-dv3hh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was thinking the same thing. How absurd!!! She’s a silly woman

    • @teo2975
      @teo2975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      so a psychopathy inveterate liar saying she "didn't believe in divorce" makes you believe it is true?? She would not have gotten a cent in a divorce, but by arranging to have him killed she got nearly two million in the insurance fraud.

  • @3311genesis
    @3311genesis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I believe this guy. His a cold blooded killer but he sounds honest. Poor Cathy. Poor his son. Poor the daughter. This is sad 😢

    • @emurillo8573
      @emurillo8573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3311genesis I know, could you imagine if this was who you had for parents ? 😖

  • @lawabidingcitizen5032
    @lawabidingcitizen5032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I actually believe this man and think he is truly sorry. He still deserves jail but I believe him.

    • @shandyireland8112
      @shandyireland8112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Idk he is very credible tho

    • @elisabethdakak878
      @elisabethdakak878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Death penalty - he stole Mike's life.

    • @AlphaHlafdige
      @AlphaHlafdige 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I believe him, but I don't think he is TRULY SORRY. He was fine living with it for 17 years.

    • @KaribeCuebas
      @KaribeCuebas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He confessed out of revenge because Denise was divorcing him and put him in jail for 20 years--at least that's what I believe.
      But, he does sound convincing. But, he lived with this murder for 16+ years without any problems. Had he and Denise still been together, he would have never confessed and they would have gotten away with it.

    • @katekattigerfeet8088
      @katekattigerfeet8088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They are both scumbags. There was a creepy dentist where I'm from in Northern Ireland and they planned and killed each other spouses and got away with for many years, ended up together. They got found out eventually the truth always comes out. What happiness could ever come out of killing your partner to be with someone else and they guilty parties ALWAYS turn on each other. Poor Mike seemed like a really nice guy and what a mum and brother he had for hounding the police to look at this again. They never gave up and got their justice.

  • @trutru432
    @trutru432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Bryan kills Mike for Denise, Bryan and Denise get married , Denise gets with Chuck , Bryan tries to kidnap Denise , snitches to the cops about it so Bryan can go to jail for life, Bryan says "b**h you got me f***d up" and snitches on himself and her , and he ends up doing 20 and she's doing life 🤣🤭

    • @popularloner4279
      @popularloner4279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Crazy cause they really would’ve gotten away with murder, she got greedy and wanted the rest of that insurance money to herself!

    • @Duma39
      @Duma39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That about sums it up perfectly 😝😂

    • @pekh2438
      @pekh2438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the summary.

    • @trutru432
      @trutru432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pekh2438 you're welcome 😊

    • @juliesprik9479
      @juliesprik9479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Denise is doing 30 years in prison.

  • @carolynm9638
    @carolynm9638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I'm glad Denise had such crappy representation. I'm not on her side but the guy doing the questioning is making me cringe..

    • @chrispage5683
      @chrispage5683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk if they were that bad, because they got her murder conviction overturned.

    • @samhansen6320
      @samhansen6320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrispage5683 ? Huh

    • @Martina-Kosicanka
      @Martina-Kosicanka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samhansen6320 No longer true

    • @Martina-Kosicanka
      @Martina-Kosicanka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samhansen6320 Denise Williams, wife convicted in Mike Williams murder, resentenced to 30 years
      9.9.2021

  • @midsummernight2009
    @midsummernight2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The lawyer seems to hate this client

    • @papatorr3669
      @papatorr3669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The lawyer that hates him is representing Denise, Brian is not his client.

    • @painfreesunrise
      @painfreesunrise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he is not his client, he is a "witness"

    • @natalee217
      @natalee217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s the defense lawyer, not his

  • @raindogs451
    @raindogs451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This lawyer is from the same office that defended Jodi Arias. He should NEVER play poker. He'll never know when to fold.

  • @kateolson6897
    @kateolson6897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This defense lawyer is bad. He is actually convincing me even more that Denise is guilty.

  • @curbsidenation
    @curbsidenation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I feel sick and filthy dirty after hearing about what they did to a man they knew and supposedly loved their whole lives. Mike knew he was going to be killed by his best friend that night and he probably knew it was for his wife and money. So completely sick!
    God rest his soul!

    • @wisdaniel
      @wisdaniel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The horror he must have felt as he clung to that stump, while that boat circled him.

    • @thousandyardgavri2785
      @thousandyardgavri2785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The horror he felt knowing in his final moments that his bestfriend is a cold blooded traitor and his daughter will be left behind.
      I want to feel sorry for Brian for having conscience but I want him to suffer as well.

    • @talcareyifill5937
      @talcareyifill5937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Meep Meep they regret because they end up being unhappy in the end

    • @mariahodson5774
      @mariahodson5774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Who said that Mike knew I don't think he would have gone if he knew

    • @gagagoose2878
      @gagagoose2878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The defense attorney is reiterating the crime Brian is in prison for, why? In asking his ridiculous questions, he is making his client look terrible. The attorney has no clue on how to question a person who is spilling his guts and not being evasive in any way.

  • @Deathnote2539
    @Deathnote2539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    My God the only thing I can of is Mr Williams poor daughter finding out her mother and stepfather killed her father...

  • @kenziejohnson2468
    @kenziejohnson2468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Omg the wife blew the whistle on him and herself!!!!!!!! I never knew how they got caught

  • @keithjames3024
    @keithjames3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He pushed his best friend off the boat; hoping he would drown, because he told him to wear waiters, then realizing he was going to make it out, he circles around, and shoots him in the face… God save humanity…. That is beyond tragic…

    • @lovecats6856
      @lovecats6856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Waders, not waiters.

    • @toni3270
      @toni3270 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obviously you knew what he meant, but it was nice of you to point it out even though I think we would have gotten it as well@@lovecats6856

    • @toni3270
      @toni3270 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      keithjames3024: I agree; what a creep!

    • @nikkik3263
      @nikkik3263 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tragic? How about evil.

  • @fabricatedreality8218
    @fabricatedreality8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I wonder if Anslee will ever look into this case to learn the truth behind her father's murder. She's still not talking to her grandmother, Cheryl. I hope at least one day she will realize how evil her mother is.

  • @darrenfletcher7679
    @darrenfletcher7679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These people knew each other in school. It would be interesting to ask fellow classmates about these 4 people. Who they were back then, what they were like

    • @janetgood6332
      @janetgood6332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In their "Christian" school.

  • @SusanBishop555
    @SusanBishop555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Brian said earlier that he was his best friend. I would hate to see what he would do to an enemy. Denise meanwhile sits there going from man to man and not caring who she destroys. She wants the money. She doesn't care about her daughter or she would not have planned to kill her father. Disgusting. They cheat on each other and as I watch this I think ...isn't love just grand. They murdered another person to be together and now they cheat on each other. They deserve each other. They deserve prison for the rest of their lives. I feel she is much more cold-blooded than he. But that is just my opinion of course. She even withholds her daughter from the rest of the family. Just to keep herself from feeling uncomfortable. To heck with her daughter losing her Dad and needing all of her family at the time. She really is despicable.

    • @wisdaniel
      @wisdaniel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are both cold, evil sociopaths. This is the devastation that results when two of these people get together.

    • @shombiedixon7017
      @shombiedixon7017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sisan Bishop. i agreed on the part you stated how she is waaaay cold-blooded than he is.. He actually cried on the other episodes when he mention the details of killing his best friend

    • @mightyboss375
      @mightyboss375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watched the videos of the Denise Williams murder story. It was truly a perfect murder in that Denise and Brian actually got away with murder and were not caught by evidence or forensics. Some locals suspected Denise and Brian were involved in the disappearance of Mike Williams, but no one could prove a murder.
      Denise and Brian not only pulled off a un-solved murder, Denise claimed 2 million dollars in life insurance policies, one of which was sold by Brian. Brian and Denise eventually got married, but they also grew apart. and that was the break in the unsolved murder. Denise got tired of Brian, and she had the 2 million dollars. Brian got kicked out, and he tried to get back together with Denise. She had lots of money, because of his selling Mike the life insurance policy. He had to get back with her, so he hid in her car. When she got in the car, he forced her to listen to him. She had to comply because he had a pistol. She did as he requested, long enough to get him out of her car.
      Then she went to the police and charged him with kidnapping, with a pistol. Mistake, Big Mistake. He went to prison, and So he eventually got back at Denise by confessing the unsolved murder. Had these two love birds stayed in love, they would have gotten away with murder. AND 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

    • @mightyboss375
      @mightyboss375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don P, You are so correct. And another stupid thing is how they are both murderers, and they trusted each other not kill each other , and got married. Who would knowingly marry a murderer?

    • @midsummernight2009
      @midsummernight2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shombie Dixon i heard that one too. I think he comes across as the better person because he talks so sensibly but dont get drawn in, remember he killed his best friend and actually planned it all out. The reason he cried in the end because he knows how he screwed up his life and feels sorry for himself only

  • @bossHogOG
    @bossHogOG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The judge is awesome

  • @timtapscott8737
    @timtapscott8737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As bad as I hate to say it it’s so interesting hearing a killer speak freely of his crime. I actually feel a little bad for him. He gets what he deserves but to be manipulated by a woman is a strong thing to break away from.

  • @vaquera9368
    @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I don’t think he’s a sociopath like some people have called him in these comments. I think he was a man led by his lust and flesh by a woman who knew what she was doing. He looks like a repentive man trying to come clear with what he did by confessing it publicly.

    • @salmanjaffri2539
      @salmanjaffri2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @mariazouaniaagustin9910
      @mariazouaniaagustin9910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This story should be a warning to everyone who claims to be a Christian. These people murdered a man, committed countless acts of adultery, hung around in strip clubs etc. all along believing they were going to be forgiven and one day go to heaven. Jesus said that we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless we have been born again of the Holy Spirit. Any person who has the Holy Spirit could never live the way these people have; the spirit of God would be convicting their consciences of their profound sins. Many people think that “believing” in Jesus is a free token to heaven. We are saved by true faith and our faith is validated by the fruits of that faith. These people were totally deceived to think they were Christians.

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JonBlackstone many are like these people and profess to be Christians. I know a bunch of them and my girlfriend calls her friends alcoholic Christians! I was married to a man for 26 years who professed to be a Christian and by his behavior he surely isn’t. There’s a major difference between identifying as a Christian and being a godly man. These people in this video are worse than heathens.

    • @farfalla1974
      @farfalla1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agree with your comment ...

  • @freya422
    @freya422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So she didn't believe in divorce but she was ready to give one to bryan. That realization killed Brian in that moment , it's quite clear she wanted his insurance , no problems in custody , all mike's inheritance with out any problems and she made brian a scapegoat.

  • @charmainkilloran9133
    @charmainkilloran9133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    How can people live with themselves after murdering someone... its astonishing how cruel they can be and how they have no remorse. If this was a friend who needs enemies!

  • @imcopper
    @imcopper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I think hes telling the truth as he saw it and lived it... she will go to prison eventually..

    • @thewhitematstudio
      @thewhitematstudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Chris_Gullett well you’ll be shocked when she’s found guilty. He has too many details to fabricate this.

    • @MK-vj5eh
      @MK-vj5eh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      THEY wanted to be together. I think that THEY are guilty!😡

    • @mantis10_surf85
      @mantis10_surf85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Denise was found GUILTY on all charges. I’m so happy for Mike’s mom, brother and family. She will get life in prison without parole🙂🙂🙂🏄🏄🏄👈🏻

    • @mantis10_surf85
      @mantis10_surf85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Chris_Gullett, You we’re wrong Chris. Denise was found guilty on ALL charges. She will hopefully get life without parole🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂👈🏻

    • @thewhitematstudio
      @thewhitematstudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Chris_Gullett still weak bro? Not as weak as your opinion lol

  • @stopanimalabuse4741
    @stopanimalabuse4741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I don't think the Defense Attorney should quit his day job. I hope he has a day job... for his sake.

    • @makeupbyshay341
      @makeupbyshay341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 Agree!

    • @karenpayne2583
      @karenpayne2583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Would you like fries with that?”

  • @doompod
    @doompod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “If I survive it.” Good answer. He may reap what he sowed. A man who is truly sorry for what he did would not seek a lesser deal.

  • @kateruterbories2692
    @kateruterbories2692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagine, if you will, you're on a hunting trip with your best friend and it turns into a movie of the week. The horror Mike must have felt the moment he realized......

  • @1972dsrai
    @1972dsrai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Damn, how the police at the time were not aware of their illicit relationship and put two-and-two together is just bewildering. It seems they were far from covert and were seen together on several occasions.

    • @bhunter11
      @bhunter11 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DS Rai I agree.

    • @hamadrashid2285
      @hamadrashid2285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      half the town probably suspected them both but as he said without the body no one can hold them accountable for the murder unless any of them were to reveal it themself. even to this day had he kept quiet this case wouldn't be happening.

    • @1972dsrai
      @1972dsrai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hamad Rashid Denise must be wondering/regretting why she went to the police about the kidnapping. Its her stupidity and naivety that has cost her her freedom. He was just acting rashly and letting his emotions dictate his actions as he has done so often in the past, but he was never going to kill her.

    • @James-bv4nu
      @James-bv4nu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@1972dsrai Denise is a greedy, cold blooded, calculating witch. She figured Brian was not going to cut off his nose to spite his face. Not gonna go to police because HE's the one that pulled the trigger. So even if Denise were to cut him off, he would have to suffer in silence. But the prosecutor has an ace; they can cut Brian a deal on murder, if he gave her up. Which he did.

    • @kerrymarris4260
      @kerrymarris4260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DS Rai police definitely dropped the ball. Florida sucks that way. back in
      1991, 95, I went to prison for A $10 dollar piece of crack..

  • @ethelmallett2811
    @ethelmallett2811 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Demise was just not a cheater but a greedy person as well. Keep her for the full 30yrs please.

  • @daniellestewart3242
    @daniellestewart3242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I’ve heard enough!! She is going to prison!!! The whole truth has come to light 🙏🏽

    • @robinsmith3987
      @robinsmith3987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Justin Lee Perryman --- Denise Williams is a master manipulator. She was in on the plan. She is going to do time. She concealed the fact that she knew what happened to her husband and did not report this to law enforcement. She then collected the life insurance money knowing that her husband was murdered and not killed in a boating/hunting accident. Your comment below is disrespectufl.

    • @mrjackqueli8779
      @mrjackqueli8779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amanda Charlebois lol she tried to back out??? Are you this freaking dumb for real???????? If she truly wanted to “back out” she could have told the police, she could have told Mike, she could have told her father. She told no one!!! She let it happen because she wanted it to happen! She is definitely guilty.

  • @jjinks35
    @jjinks35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The devil will love these two. My heart feels so sorry for the children, parents and family.

  • @keithjames3024
    @keithjames3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I lost faith in humanity until I just watched Denise Williams be sentenced to 30 years. There is some hope…

  • @jerryhamer
    @jerryhamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Imagine going back in time and seeing Denise and Bryan playing at recess together in pre school

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought that too! Can you imagine what the future held?? 😢 I’ve heard it said people attract people like them. They must have been the same in character and integrity, narcissist.

    • @shannsimms9072
      @shannsimms9072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      God that is so sad

    • @freakmeoutwillu
      @freakmeoutwillu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the exact same thing. And Bryan and Mike being best friends..Bryan helping Mike while courting Denise. It’s just sad.

    • @DamnitDana
      @DamnitDana ปีที่แล้ว

      😢

  • @THETOTALME76501
    @THETOTALME76501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If that's a friend, then you won't stand a chance with an enemy!

  • @JustMe-mi4vu
    @JustMe-mi4vu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This man, Brian Winchester, clearly confessed with an open heart, his sin of Murder, adultery, etc to Jesus Christ and pledged to amend his life by being open and honest in these proceedings. His sins will cost him the remainder of his life, which seems appropriate for the awful act he committed. However, I cannot help but feel his repentance and genuine regret for his role in killing his best friend. It is a tragic lesson for all people that no one and nothing is worth taking another person's life to obtain it.

    • @ishp2
      @ishp2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You took the words out of my mouth...A proof that God never turns his back on us even after he killed a human being. Brian became a changed man bec of Divine intervention.

    • @gloriaambrose2840
      @gloriaambrose2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What open heart? He just wanted revenge and to reduce his sentence, if he’s truly regretful he should serve life in prison

    • @lookronjon
      @lookronjon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your words hit hard. I know i am a sinner. I don’t want to. Every day I learn more and my heart grows and I leave bad habits behind one at a time. I have never hurt anyone physically. I have that. I hope this man can find salvation and try to be productive and help others not to do what he did.

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This story should be a warning to everyone who claims to be a Christian. These people murdered a man, committed countless acts of adultery, hung around in strip clubs etc. all along believing they were going to be forgiven and one day go to heaven. Jesus said that we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless we have been born again of the Holy Spirit. Any person who has the Holy Spirit could never live the way these people have; the spirit of God would be convicting their consciences of their profound sins. Many people think that “believing” in Jesus is a free token to heaven. We are saved by true faith and our faith is validated by the fruits of that faith. These people were totally deceived to think they were Christians. Truth.

    • @teo2975
      @teo2975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nonsense. He confessed out of vengeance and for a a specific written offer of reduced sentence

  • @tongaimupedzi
    @tongaimupedzi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Brian is a credible no doubt

    • @dmichael100
      @dmichael100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He's absolutely credible. He admits what he's done and he's paying for it and he's free to be honest about everything. Nothing to lose.

  • @James-bv4nu
    @James-bv4nu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The murder case broke after the kidnapping charge. Brian was going to prison anyway. He could go to prison alone on the kidnapping, and Denise stays free enjoying the money, or he could go to prison and take her down with him. Prosecutor had no direct evidence on Denise, only Brian's testimony and circumstantial evidence. But very strong circumstantial evidence. They plotted together to write Mike's life policies. And Brian murdered his best friend based on what ? Only based on a promise that Denise would share the money with him. Can you imagine if Denise had no involvement in the murder ? That Brian did not have affair with Denise, wrote the life policies on his own initiative, murdered his friend, and then hope the rich, grieving widow would marry him ? It's just TOO IMPLAUSIBLE !!! The only logical conclusion is that Denise was in on the murder, if you believe Brian was the killer. Brian proved he was the killer by leading police to the body. Case closed.

    • @freakmeoutwillu
      @freakmeoutwillu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like the TV show you with joe and love 😱

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Denise had got on that stand and made a convincing plea that that was the case, I might have looked at her differently. But her silence is a strong indicator of guilt here.

  • @shototodoroki4816
    @shototodoroki4816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    For some reason I like this guy and his hard core honesty

    • @babysenpai3883
      @babysenpai3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You can feel he matured so much and realized he did a stupid thing when "blindly in love"

    • @msm5887
      @msm5887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for making me feel normal

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He is very obviously a broken and repentant man. He had a spiritual awakening that lead him to confess the truth. He decided he was going to accept the punishment he deserved. It’s obvious that she has not done the same and likely never will.

    • @maxxdroid
      @maxxdroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I do not like him. He is not a good man. The only reason he told the truth is she dumped him. But the fact both have their lives destroyed, is a start. I’d prefer, however, that Mike lived and none of this had happened.

    • @freakmeoutwillu
      @freakmeoutwillu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He has extremely twisted morals.

  • @timlavance867
    @timlavance867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was in a similar situation many many years ago..glad I got away..emotions can really take over your life and cloud your thought process

  • @Milkugh
    @Milkugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    She didn’t love Brian she used him

    • @nazbah5929
      @nazbah5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She used everyone , she has no heart only cared about money

  • @snapmalloy5556
    @snapmalloy5556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A judge jumps in without an objection from the prosecution? Makes it look like the prosecution is asleep at the wheel

    • @abigailh7715
      @abigailh7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And only jumped in after Brian glanced at him to prompt him!

  • @lynncraig6151
    @lynncraig6151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Dang !!! I 'm glad they didn't decide to kill Cathy and his son too.

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or Cheryl the MOTHER of Mike!

  • @christopherswan1150
    @christopherswan1150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "Mr. Winchester you're a murderer isn't it true? Yes sir.
    Mr. Winchester you're a lier isn't it true? Yes sir. "
    What a terribly great sequence of questions. Can't argue those.

    • @January.
      @January. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *liar

    • @Moonglow23
      @Moonglow23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The defense attorney is a smartass

    • @freakmeoutwillu
      @freakmeoutwillu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roflllll

  • @MrCyberbullying
    @MrCyberbullying 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I find this guy credible.

    • @amandapowell4576
      @amandapowell4576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I did, too. I hope he gets help for the issues he has in jail. They have programs available for mental health/ personal development.

    • @natalielove4764
      @natalielove4764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do too. Especially after the look he gave the Judge @12:48 in all Honesty Saying (WE BOTH KILLED HIM) ..Your Honor.

    • @spottedbutt
      @spottedbutt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I know what he did was horrible. What shocks me about this case is this guy is not stupid, obviously telling the truth, is how on Earth a person can get so twisted in life, hung up with a woman sexually.. it's so sad it really is. So many lives ruined.

    • @karenbahadur5162
      @karenbahadur5162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea he did not for once cgange his story or stutter also the witnesses corroborate what he said.

    • @marycanfield8654
      @marycanfield8654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@natalielove4764 yes, although, the woman should be given time

  • @brandismith3911
    @brandismith3911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    “You didn’t want to go to prison, you didn’t want to pay for your consequences, right”
    “Just like Denise, right.”
    I really like his answers to this attorney. I do find her more threatening and dangerous than him. It’s women like her that prove women will always be more powerful than men. Men who fall in love will literally kill their best friend just for the chance with that woman. It does happen the other way around at times. But, women usually have a much easier time with manipulation, especially with men who desperately love them.

    • @namelessbabe1
      @namelessbabe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      josie ......they said that......

    • @cc_celeste
      @cc_celeste 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely true!
      As a woman I have concluded that manipulation is rather extremely easy for us.

    • @marciabernard3820
      @marciabernard3820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're right

    • @gmpick9793
      @gmpick9793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you see a man do something out of the ordinary than what he would normally do usually it’s a female the common denominator in the situation.

    • @rebeccaduboise6890
      @rebeccaduboise6890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This so called best friend shot Mike with a gun.
      He had choices to make. Nobody made him do anything. Both GUILTY equally

  • @caleshriver134
    @caleshriver134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This dude and Denise seem like reasonably intelligent people... How in the WORLD did they think this whole charade was going to end up? Did they truly believe it wouldn’t lead to this very spot at some point in the future?
    I just don’t understand what possesses someone to commit murder with the intent on cashing in on life insurance. Has that EVER worked?! If so for how long. Craziness.

    • @teo2975
      @teo2975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bizarre post since they got away with murder and two million bucks, and fking themselves silly with strippers and travel for many many years.

    • @izzo2998
      @izzo2998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teo2975 That's what I was thinking. They almost DID completely get away with it!

    • @MichelleNo1738
      @MichelleNo1738 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m telling u ! He really believed him and Denise would live happily ever after and that’s so crazy to me ! That they really believed it ! The world is crazy ! And thank GOD I’m normal !

    • @debbiejones4935
      @debbiejones4935 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They probably would have if Brian hadn't kidnapped Denise. If she hadn't pressed so hard for him to do life for that, he might not have talked.

  • @cita_m
    @cita_m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm still just shocked that this man thought he was going to have a normal, happy life with his best friend's wife after killing him. You really have to be delusional and sick to have a conversation about killing someone as a solution to divorce.
    Asking forgiveness from God after committing a murder isn't an excuse to comitt murder.

    • @Scorcher-ii1ty
      @Scorcher-ii1ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These people mistake lust for love. Just imagine killing your BF. I'd vomit every day...these 2 are like....i guess we are meant to be.

    • @kristendavis7870
      @kristendavis7870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a fact that most murders are unsolved.

    • @LisaWhitehorn
      @LisaWhitehorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Darcy Massey What got me, was when he said Denise's first plan was to also ask Brian's wife to go "Hunting" as well and kill them both. He told her he wasn't killing his wife, but he would kill Brian. Wow. Just wow!

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This story should be a warning to everyone who claims to be a Christian. These people murdered a man, committed countless acts of adultery, hung around in strip clubs etc. all along believing they were going to be forgiven and one day go to heaven. Jesus said that we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless we have been born again of the Holy Spirit. Any person who has the Holy Spirit could never live the way these people have; the spirit of God would be convicting their consciences of their profound sins. Many people think that “believing” in Jesus is a free token to heaven. We are saved by true faith and our faith is validated by the fruits of that faith. These people were totally deceived to think they were Christians.

  • @JanelsJoint
    @JanelsJoint 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Brian is telling the truth cuz his testimony hasn't changed

  • @stephanwatson7902
    @stephanwatson7902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That first attorney in this video was weak, he basically just ran through the guy's story again. Pointed out maybe a few more details and then said "You're a murderer right? And a liar? That's all your honor!"

  • @JonBlackstone
    @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Talk about a credible witness. The defense attorney might as well give up.

  • @StormSong8
    @StormSong8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So, this guy was married, having an affair with a woman whom he considered his true girlfriend, and also was having an affair with *another* girl around 2001. Denise was married, having an affair with Brian, and having an affair with another dude. Meanwhile, I can't even find a date. How come everyone is getting laid but me?

    • @mikescanlon8191
      @mikescanlon8191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And how come no one has questioned who is the father of the kid born during the 3 years of the affair, prior to the murder? Mike wasn't getting any so surely the murderer is the father?

    • @raresabraleaks8216
      @raresabraleaks8216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re luckier than u think !

    • @johnnyflannigan136
      @johnnyflannigan136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause you a simp bro

    • @amyevans5273
      @amyevans5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Relatable AF

  • @Cloud_Grl70
    @Cloud_Grl70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I cant even imagine the pain Mikes family must feel hearing her lawyer say over and over again "When you shot him in the face". Especially when Brian has confessed. Hes going to be haunted for the rest of his life for this.

  • @ryansmith144
    @ryansmith144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The lawyer Denise deserved 😂😂😂

  • @eew12
    @eew12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    28:02 He looks right at her after quoting her. If looks could kill...

    • @sbittner6882
      @sbittner6882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And 35:22

    • @ReSearcherSusie
      @ReSearcherSusie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does it at different times throughout his testimony.

    • @abigailh7715
      @abigailh7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More daggers at 28:34. I bet that ice cold snake just return his glare. She's a true demon in the flesh

    • @sarahs.3094
      @sarahs.3094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His piercing glare

    • @lapetitemorte415
      @lapetitemorte415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just watching this now. I wonder what her expressions were back to him…..

  • @johnbrevard5966
    @johnbrevard5966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    the Defense lawyer is a Sad excuse for Defense!!

    • @roderickcampbell7872
      @roderickcampbell7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Voracious Reader The case was to be a crown witness to sink denise Williams, with that done , he would avoid the death sentence.

  • @richardsoutdoorworld5284
    @richardsoutdoorworld5284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    im shocked that such a well mannered man such as Brian is that he even allowed himself to get involved in a murder !

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This story should be a warning to everyone who claims to be a Christian. These people murdered a man, committed countless acts of adultery, hung around in strip clubs etc. all along believing they were going to be forgiven and one day go to heaven. Jesus said that we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless we have been born again of the Holy Spirit. Any person who has the Holy Spirit could never live the way these people have; the spirit of God would be convicting their consciences of their profound sins. Many people think that “believing” in Jesus is a free token to heaven. We are saved by true faith and our faith is validated by the fruits of that faith. These people were totally deceived to think they were Christians.

    • @janvardeman6345
      @janvardeman6345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obviously, he was manipulated by Denise. He has to be the most honest defendant I've ever heard testify. What a shame he was blinded by emotions. This atty is not very impressive

  • @MindyBeee
    @MindyBeee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Creeps, all of them.

  • @inTruthbyGrace
    @inTruthbyGrace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Do not covet thy neighbour's house, do not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.... (Exodus 20:17 & Deut 5:21)

    • @GSAskue
      @GSAskue 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were both/all "xians." That verse didn't help anything.

    • @bari2883
      @bari2883 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GSAskue umm what does covet mean exactly?

    • @RaquelX305
      @RaquelX305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ba Ri it means to be jealous and want what someone else has

    • @inTruthbyGrace
      @inTruthbyGrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GSAskue yes.. "xians" are sinners like everyone else... except we realize that we are sinners and we have have *_received_* God's offer of forgiveness for our sins,,,, that's all that differentiates us... we are forgiven sinners...as you should be too! Learn of Jesus, He is all that is good... not us.

  • @faraleakyfaucet7517
    @faraleakyfaucet7517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They could not stay "in Love" with one another..he and Denise committed a Carninal Sin..No wait...Two Cardinal Sins.. No way either them could ever live in peacr and harmony. No way.

    • @jamiekloer6534
      @jamiekloer6534 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fara Leaky Faucet they actually did better than most. So many people
      Do this and break up the next day.

    • @JonBlackstone
      @JonBlackstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This story should be a warning to everyone who claims to be a Christian. These people murdered a man, committed countless acts of adultery, hung around in strip clubs etc. all along believing they were going to be forgiven and one day go to heaven. Jesus said that we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless we have been born again of the Holy Spirit. Any person who has the Holy Spirit could never live the way these people have; the spirit of God would be convicting their consciences of their profound sins. Many people think that “believing” in Jesus is a free token to heaven. We are saved by true faith and our faith is validated by the fruits of that faith. These people were totally deceived to think they were Christians. And that’s the truth